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Speaker 2: I'm that for me. I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for day Edith State is that?

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Speaker 2: Whoo whoom and Dan.

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Speaker 1: And tie welcome back to the solid verbe boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: My name is ty Hildebrant, joining me as always over

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Speaker 1: there in beautiful New York City, the one, the only.

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Speaker 1: To Andrew Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm outstanding, Ty, I am. I wouldn't go as far

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Speaker 2: as saying reinvigorated. But today is not only National Signing Day,

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Speaker 2: maybe the late signing day. I don't think we should

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Speaker 2: just signing day in today's straggler signing day. But I

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Speaker 2: feel pretty great. I mean, there's a lot in the

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Speaker 2: news to discuss. There's a lot of big picture recruiting

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Speaker 2: stuff to discuss. How that relates to maybe some new hires,

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Speaker 2: maybe what programs are looking like for spring, summer, fall,

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Speaker 2: or I don't know, I'm feeling a jolt. How about you?

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Speaker 1: I am feeling a little bit of a jolt as well.

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Speaker 2: Do that? Good call? I think the algorithm loves that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it may also be illegal, but who's keeping tracking it? Right,

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Speaker 1: Shani ignorance, ignorance, We do have some bread. How about

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Speaker 1: this news yesterday? Yeah, about the Michigan State coaching situation,

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Speaker 1: Mark D'Antonio stepping down. Okay, that's a bit of a development.

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Speaker 1: Somebody alerted us out there on the Twitter sphere that

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Speaker 1: early February, which is not at all the template. But

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Speaker 1: now Michigan State very quickly trying to hunt down a

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Speaker 1: new head football coach. I saw some names mentioned, most

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Speaker 2: What you have one specific name? I think Pat Shermer,

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Speaker 2: because the other names I saw have been recently pretty

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Speaker 2: successful in Matt Campbell, Pat Nardouzi, Yeah, Okay, Luke Fickle.

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Speaker 1: I think Luke Fikele and Matt Campbell would be terrific.

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Speaker 2: Matt Campbell allegedly was approached and was not interested. Luke

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Speaker 2: But also that's a tough division with Penn State. As

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Speaker 2: waiting to take that bonus. It's never gonna look the best,

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Speaker 2: but that's that's Stantonio's word, and so we'll see potentially

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Speaker 2: a very good job. Michigan State reached very high heights,

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Speaker 1: I don't like the Nardoozi move. I know he was

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Speaker 1: Because neither one of those guys, to me, stirs it.

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Speaker 1: I mean the two that stuck in my crawl were

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Speaker 2: You have an anti pat bias right now, I.

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Speaker 2: I understand some of the issues at Mississippi State. I

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Speaker 2: signing day. But I am very excited by that. And

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Speaker 1: the Tom to Tommy reconversion, which I'm very excited about.

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Speaker 1: And we will clearly get a lot of mileage out

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Speaker 2: Did you see who ASU now will have calling, or

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Speaker 1: I did catch wind of Marvin Glue with Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Syracuse hires away Tony White running the three three

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Speaker 1: We can get into some other tidbits here as we

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Speaker 1: signing day, Dan and Tiger. You're up for National Signing

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Speaker 1: Day twenty twenty signing Dan, Yeah, Trs are out and about.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to construct.

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Speaker 2: Hence what you're hearing underneath tie.

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Speaker 1: Yes, trying to construct their their next rendition. We have,

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Speaker 1: we already did an interview back in December, you did

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Speaker 1: we move forward. But recently, as you know if you

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Speaker 1: follow college football, they changed up the timing. This signing day,

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Speaker 1: we're at now is most of the big names of

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Speaker 1: about here that have certainly influenced rankings, and congratulations to

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Speaker 1: But it just has taken on a much much different complexion,

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Speaker 2: That's all sounds correct, Although when you said icing cherry,

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Speaker 2: But these are things that I sort of discussed with

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Speaker 1: Let's zag, but just for important context, if you're picking

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Speaker 2: Yes, and some teams who were able to translate some

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Speaker 1: Let's let's focus on the teams that are already coming

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Speaker 2: Yeah, doomsday bunker. Yeah. These are the billionaires of college football.

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Speaker 2: What are they doing? How are they adding that? These

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Speaker 2: That is one percent correct, tie. I think it's what

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Speaker 1: This all year, that's gonna be trouble.

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Speaker 2: He is one of many Californians and West Coasters who

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Speaker 1: By the numbers, Clemson did very well along the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: They clearly added to what was a young core this

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Speaker 1: You know, they've really made a lot of halong that

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Speaker 2: All right, who else is adding helipads? Alabama? Alabama's already

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Speaker 2: got like four helipads. What they've done at the running

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Speaker 2: short of incredible. Yes, the highest rated players in their

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Speaker 2: looking at Jace McClellan, an exciting prospect out of Texas.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Royd L. Williams, exciting prospect out of Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Jackson Bratton, a great name inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: He goes out, He gets the positions that he needs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the linebackers and the edge players on you. It's

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Speaker 2: what incredible class for Georgia. I'm assuming number one.

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Speaker 1: Turning to Ohio State two gigantic wide receiver recruits now.

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Speaker 1: nijigba is that how I say it?

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Speaker 2: I hope not in Agiba. I don't know. My guess

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Speaker 1: Know Rockwall, Texas another five star receiver, the fifth rated

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Speaker 2: Come yes, and imagine, imagine you're CJ. Stroud, who was

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Speaker 1: Oregon. Your ducks finished with the twelfth overall.

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Speaker 2: Class something like that. Yeah, they take the pack to

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about the pieces they added? I

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Speaker 1: Is Jay Butterfield gonna play.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma eked out by Texas, so they didn't win with

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Speaker 1: we didn't even touch Georgia. We can talk about them

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Speaker 1: in a little bit, But what are some teams on

432
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: the opposite end of the spectrum, Dan Like, if we're

433
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: thinking of this in terms of construction, what are some

434
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: teams that have effectively raised their previous infrastructure and now

435
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: they've got to start a new new foundation. Maybe they

436
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: had a really bad termite infestation, like who has to

437
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: start over and who has given you reason to believe

438
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: or not believe in the strategies that they deployed here.

439
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 2: The bottom of the Power five area of the sport

440
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 2: is pretty bleak. It's not great, I mean, other than

441
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: maybe Arkansas. Arkansas was pretty horrific last season, and I

442
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: think there's some reason to believe based on the hire

443
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: of Sam Pittman and the coordinators he was able to hire,

444
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: and their proximity to talent, I think I feel better

445
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: about Arkansas. We can talk about new coaches that we

446
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 2: can talk about down in the dumps teams and sometimes

447
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 2: that's both, but especially Arkansas, the jewel of their class

448
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: is Miles Slusher, the safety. They recruited well up front,

449
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: which I imagine Sam Pittman will continue to do, but

450
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: they're really Their big recruit this year was Felipe Franks,

451
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 2: who comes in from Florida. And I'm a fan of

452
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 2: the fact that twenty four to seven has sort of

453
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 2: included transfers. I don't know if they give all the

454
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: transfers new star ratings, whatever the case is. They've brought

455
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: in a couple transfers. Last season. They had a top

456
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: twenty five class and brought in a couple good pass catchers.

457
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: This year, Arkansas focused upfront on defense, which from what

458
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: we saw of Arkansas defense last year, seems pretty smart.

459
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: They need, I mean, they need to focus everywhere. But

460
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: if the teams that truly have termites man Kansas is

461
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the Big twelve. They focused on

462
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: receiver and offensive line. They didn't bring anybody in all

463
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: their transfer and transfer portal situations are outgoing. Arizona is

464
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 2: the bottom of the Pac twelve right now. They've focused

465
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: on wide receiver, offensive line, and defensive back. They bring

466
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: in an all purpose back in Frank Brown from Texas

467
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: who's promising. Brendan Schooler was a starting receiver at Oregon.

468
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 2: He joins his brother at Arizona, albeit on the opposite

469
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: side of the field. They lost a lot of bodies

470
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 2: to transfer from their secondary and twenty nineteen wasn't much better,

471
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: So I don't know if the outlook is all that good.

472
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: I don't think there's all that reason for optimism unless

473
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Speaker 2: you're a big believer in the new coaching staff at

474
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: Arizona Vanderbilt. They just, you know, their ad steps down yesterday.

475
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: Derek Mason has brought in the last place class in

476
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: the SEC. They focused on an offensive line. They lost

477
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks plural, so they brought in quarterbacks plural. There's not

478
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 2: a ton of reason for optimism there. Maryland's might be

479
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: the worst situation of all. They lost a ton of bodies.

480
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm seeing seventeen eighteen guys in the transfer portal because

481
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: Tyrrell Pigram has entered the portal. Last year's class wasn't

482
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Speaker 2: anything special. The big jewel though, of all these classes

483
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: that perhaps are representing programs that need to rebuild founds

484
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: in a major way. Rackem Jarrett, local five star receiver,

485
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 2: talked about him a little bit with Huffman, but their

486
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 2: focus this year was on the the offensive line receiver

487
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: headlined by Jarrett, and defensive back. So of the teams

488
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: that really, really, you know, needed to bring in fresh

489
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: bodies and sort of find a reason and maybe convince

490
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: higher level recruits that you can play right away. You

491
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: can be the reason for the turnaround right now. Those

492
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 2: four schools to me, and we can get into Rutgers

493
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: as well, because they hired a new coach. They're you know,

494
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: tearing things down to the studs. There's some optimism with

495
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: Greg Ciano because of how well he is versed in

496
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: the state of New Jersey, a pretty talented state. Chris

497
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 2: Long is the headliner there. I think he's listed as

498
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 2: an athlete. Looks like he'll play receiver, but you know

499
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: that's always up for you know, we'll see what happens

500
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: in camp. They were very active in the transfer market,

501
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 2: and I'm including all of that here because they bring

502
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: in Peyton Powell, a former blue chip quarterback from Baylor.

503
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: They bring in Michigan into defensive lineman. Michael dwumfor Brendan

504
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: White played a lot at the end of twenty eighteen

505
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: for Ohio State at safety, sort of lost favor in

506
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: this new defense the twenty nineteen Ohio State. But you know,

507
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: greg Ciano has his familiarity with him and brings him

508
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 2: to Rutgers. So I would say, weirdly enough of the

509
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: teams that really look like they were heading in a

510
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: very terrible direction, Rutgers, I think they're The temperature of

511
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: bodies there is warmer than the other places.

512
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: Interesting.

513
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that was my takeaway. I think I like

514
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 2: the staff he hired. Sean Gleeson comes in from he

515
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: was Princeton and Oklahoma State. Now he of course is

516
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: familiar with that area. So I don't love that they're

517
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten East. But in terms of fielding

518
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: a competitive team compared against those compatriots, yeah, I.

519
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: Think it's Rutgers interesting. Okay, Yeah, I focused a lot

520
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: of my time looking at teams that seemingly have a window.

521
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: I like this, seemingly have a window to make a jump,

522
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: Like maybe the house is in order for the most part.

523
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, get a.

524
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: New throw, maybe paint a wall or two, but by

525
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: and large, you got key pieces in place.

526
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: Right.

527
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: Other divisional opponents have some issues or some questions.

528
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: Maybe we're regrouting. We are just like simple stuff, changing

529
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: a few light bulbs, uh huh, immediate issues that needed

530
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: to be resolved, perhaps through recruiting. But teams that seemingly

531
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: are in a really.

532
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: Good place now as we enter the twenty twenty season.

533
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: Going in the right direction, and because of what's going

534
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: on in their division. You know, a team atop the

535
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: division losing a bunch or a new coach for a

536
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: key rival, something like that, you have windows. College football

537
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: is about taking advantage of windows.

538
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: Right. Let's start with Texas A and MDN okay. So

539
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: this is an outstanding recruiting class. They finished sixth in

540
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: the nation and it comes at an exciting time because

541
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: the Aggies lose what three starters from last year. Most

542
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: of the team is back. Jimbo's in a good spot

543
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: where he's got a really good team coming back, and

544
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: while you're always looking for those immediate impact guys, he's

545
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: in a spot where he can look to build depth

546
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: for the future without really compromising the present, which is

547
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: a good spot to be in. Jooj The other key

548
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: point here the SEC West is good. It's always good.

549
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: It's not without its share of questions. In twenty twenty,

550
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Ward knows the schedule for A and M isn't nearly

551
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: the Murderers road was last year. It's still tough, but

552
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: it's not the gauntlet it was in twenty nineteen. There

553
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: is a chance, and I hate to go like all

554
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Missouri here and jinx them in early February, but no,

555
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: there's a chance that they're nine to one or ten

556
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: and zero headed into the last two weeks of the

557
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: year when they're on the road at Obama and then

558
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: home against LSU. What I like about what Jimbo did here.

559
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: First off, he has seemingly focused on past defense. It

560
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: was really bad two years ago. It didn't prove last season,

561
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: but now he is very very out there and trying

562
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: to solidify the back end of that defense. Two four

563
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: star safeties Jalen Jones Antonio Johnson, they both can come

564
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: in and help with the back end of that defense,

565
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: and perhaps right away, So that to me is maybe

566
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: a plug and play situation. We'll have to wait and

567
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: see about playing time, but certainly some bodies that can help. Otherwise,

568
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: he made a real concerted effort here to add depth

569
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: to the offensive line. And we've said it once, he

570
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: said it a thousand times. It's essential in the SEC

571
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: to have really good offensive line play. He focused in

572
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: particular on the interior offensive line. Yes, I don't know

573
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: if either of those will be enough to spring them

574
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: to a twelve and oho season, but I like the

575
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: fact that he's able to add depth for the future

576
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: and at the same time maybe some guys who he

577
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: can plug and play. Now. I think he did a

578
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: good job.

579
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had one of the things last year, maybe

580
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: the biggest thing last year was just generating bigger plays

581
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: on offense. And they did well at receiver. It's I

582
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: think they had a quarterback last year and it's at

583
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: Hayes King Haines King this year for Texas A and M.

584
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: If you have the class in front of you, so

585
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: they bring in a blue chip quarterback of the future

586
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: to compete for that job once Kellen Mond exhausts his eligibility.

587
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: And also Jimo Fisher did a really nice job expanding

588
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: the recruiting footprint of Texas A and M. You see

589
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: where they they've brought in commitments from, and it's really

590
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: I mean a big guy from Illinois, New Jersey, Texas, Louisiana, Arizona, Arkansas.

591
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: So they're not relying even though you know, East Texas

592
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: is a very fruitful area for recruiting. They went out

593
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: and seemingly found the best players for them no matter

594
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: where they were. They went into I think Georgia, they

595
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: went Maryland. So really good job for Texas A and

596
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: M and the specific window and you mentioned it having

597
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: an easier schedule. But which quarterbacks right now are proven

598
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: to be dangerous in the SEC West? Mac Jones? Probably? Yeah,

599
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: probably probably Mac Jones. Is that the entire list? I'm

600
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: not terrified of Bonix right now, maybe he evolves into

601
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: that kind of quarterback. The old miss quarterback situation is

602
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: up in the air with where Lane Kiffin goes. Mississippi

603
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: State certainly up. Yeah, I mean it's it's going kJ

604
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 2: Costello in an air raid is certainly interesting. But this

605
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: is a new quarterback, new system, new school, So, especially

606
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: with his injuries from last season, I can't say I'm

607
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: confident that it's just going to be a turnkey situation.

608
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: I feel really good about the window. A and M

609
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: has to sort of take another jump up whatever whatever

610
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: that ascension looks like.

611
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to your point, recruited from thirteen different states here.

612
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: You compare that with ut only two states Texas and Arizona.

613
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: Got their big gun from from Arizona. We'll talk about that. Yeah, yeah, Bijan.

614
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,719
Speaker 1: But otherwise H, A and M. I think is in

615
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: a good spot. Penn State, let's talk about Penn State

616
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: for a second. Yeah, generally speaking, in a very good spot.

617
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Recruiting has been strong. We saw it last season. They

618
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: were able to get contributions from a bunch of the

619
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: young guns on the roster, sure, which which is nice. Yeah,

620
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: the immediate needs here at least from my vantage point,

621
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: are in the passing game, both in creating it and

622
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: in stopping it. Now they do bring back Pat Fryarmouth.

623
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: He's gonna still be around this coming season, so he's

624
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: last year, I promise you, baby. So that's a good

625
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: starting point. Johan dots in his bat back that helps too.

626
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: But Kja Hamler's going pro. They're having some guys transfer out.

627
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: I just feel like the wide receiving core is very thin,

628
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: so could a freshman like KeAndre Lambert from Virginia step

629
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: up and make an impact. He's a name that some

630
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: have pointed to with someone who could step in, But

631
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like there's a whole lot of depth

632
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: beyond those top two guys. And I said on a

633
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: previous show about how Sean Clifford I really liked him

634
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the year. By the end of

635
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: the year I didn't quite feel as rosy about his

636
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: chances moving forward.

637
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: But a new offensive coordinator, there's a window to certainly

638
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: surprise people and improve on offense. There.

639
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's reason for optimism. And there were

640
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: many points, to be fair, where his wide receiving corps

641
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: just did not do him any favors correct.

642
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: It took Jowan Johnson going to America's school, the University

643
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: of Oregon, to really hone his craft. I get it.

644
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see if some of the bodies

645
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Speaker 1: they bring in at receiver can help kind of take

646
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: that offense to the next level. And defensively, look like

647
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: we saw some breakdowns against the past last year. They

648
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: were super banged up the corner. But they do have

649
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: some options coming in on the back end of that secondary,

650
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: Enzo Jennings, So I think it's an early commit Tyler Rudolph,

651
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: some guys that could play again back end of that secondary.

652
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: They really needed help there and we saw it in

653
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: a game like in Minnesota where Frankly, they couldn't stop

654
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: the pass Minnesota's passing. It was just too much for him. Yeah,

655
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: and they need to have some solutions there. But there

656
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: are questions maybe like outside Ohio State in the Big

657
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: Ten East.

658
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even Ohio State, you don't have to block

659
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: Chase Young in twenty twenty, that's enormous. You don't have

660
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: to throw into a Jeff Hafley defense with those dudes

661
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 2: in the secondary. For Ohio State, that's large. Shaye Patterson gone,

662
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: Michigan's defense new look, Michigan's offense new look, Donovan Peoples,

663
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: Jones gone. There's a lot to be I mean, Michigan State.

664
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Speaker 2: We have no idea what Sparty's gonna look like in

665
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, who's coaching them, what systems they're gonna be

666
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: running on either side of the ball. So Penn State's

667
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: window outside of Yeses Fields and Ryan A are still

668
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: in Columbus. But even I can't imagine Ohio State's defense,

669
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: even if they're excellent, looks what looks like what it

670
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: did in twenty nineteen. So there's a window for Penn

671
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: State if Sean Clifford and Kirk Shiraka can make beautiful,

672
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: beautiful offensive magic together.

673
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: Let's talky about ASU. You mentioned ASU earlier. ASU a

674
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: seven and five regular season eight and five after winning

675
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: the Bowl over Florida State. Three of their five losses

676
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: were one possession games. It was a gritty team in general.

677
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: In general, I think ASU under her Edwards has been

678
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: a really good story, way better than we expected after

679
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: that weird press conference a couple of years ago.

680
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: I think that's reasonable.

681
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: It goes without saying another solid class this year so

682
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: things are going in a good direction, especially given that

683
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: they've got Jayden Daniels that they can build around again

684
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: freshman quarterbacks, seventeen touchdowns, only two picks as a true

685
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: fresh and he has a lot of the tools that

686
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: you like. There's reason to be.

687
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: Excited there, for sure.

688
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: I guess my bigger picture question, and I struggled with this,

689
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: is whether we feel ASU is truly complete enough at

690
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: this juncture to take that proverbial jump, like how open

691
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: really is the window? Because I don't remember a moment

692
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: outside of like September or maybe mid October where on

693
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: the show you and I were talking about ASU as

694
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: a genuinely good team that we weren't at all skeptical about.

695
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't thrilled when they beat Oregon and

696
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: knocked him out of playoff contention in Tempe that Saturday night.

697
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think my disappointment was a backwards compliment

698
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: to how well they played and made those key passes

699
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: in those key moments that night. They lost four in

700
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: a row before that win over Oregon at home in

701
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: the Desert. But no, I think it's more of what

702
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: ASU has done in hiring. They've recruited well in southern California.

703
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: Now that there's that USC, UCLA recruiting vacuum for a

704
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: number of reasons, and I think they're just one of

705
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: those teams with now USC certainly looking really good on

706
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: offense but making changes on defense, Ucla not looking like

707
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: a contender. Utah should be once again very good, but

708
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 2: they have to make a change at quarterback. I guess

709
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 2: it might be Jake Bentley this year. We'll see who

710
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: ends up starting and winning that quarterback job for the Utes.

711
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: But in terms of opportunity, in terms of window, in

712
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: terms of talent level, and now in year three of

713
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: the Herm Edwards era, I don't think they have a

714
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: tough September. They have BYU before they have SC but

715
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: it's Oregon State, UCLA, Colorado, Wazoo. With a new coach,

716
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: cal should be pretty good. I know they're in Eugene,

717
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: but they have Utah at home, and Arizona is kind

718
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 2: of a and by kind of I mean a complete

719
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: mess in Tucson for the Territorial Cup. So schedule, quarterback continuity,

720
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: recruiting improvement. I think it's a really nice window for ASU.

721
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 2: I really like LV Bunkley Shelton. I know you like

722
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson, so Elijah Badger a pretty highly regarded recruit.

723
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: They did well on offense, they did pretty well upfront

724
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: on defense. I think I think AC was definitely a

725
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 2: window team.

726
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: I yeah, so you mentioned Johnny Wilson. I like Johnny Wilson,

727
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: big kid from your old stomping ground in southern California.

728
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: But I like the two tackle transfers coming in from

729
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: Stanford and Texas, A and M. They need the help

730
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: up front, they really need the help up front. And Herm.

731
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the class, regardless of

732
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: whether or not you feel there's a legit window here,

733
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: Herm definitely made an effort to bring in some athletes

734
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: to give the offense a boost and just improve it

735
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: in as well rounded a fashion as he could. So

736
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: I think he did a good job. We can debate

737
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 1: the merits of that window at some other point in time,

738
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: but by a larger pretty good job. In let's face it.

739
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: A side of the conference that has so many questions.

740
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: We could do podcast upon podcasts talking about the questions

741
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: of the PAC twelve South.

742
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: Sure, let's keep looking at windows. We've got a big

743
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: round house what a roundhouse is called an igloo? Well, iglo, Yeah,

744
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: I think a yert. I'm looking that up.

745
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: So we have to have more window teams acc window

746
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: North Carolina. You're right, North Carolina, North Carolina. I'll say

747
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: it again. I think I said in the preseason that

748
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: if North Carolina got to four wins it would be

749
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: a crazy revelation. M hm and well and behold, Daniel,

750
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: this is a team that finished with six eventually won

751
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: the bowl game. Yep, and now they sit ahead of

752
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: Florida State. They finished third in acc recruiting, behind Clemson

753
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: and just a bit behind the Miami Hurricanes. So by

754
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: all accounts, they did very, very well. It helps to

755
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: have Sam Howell leading that charge at quarterback again, the

756
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: signal caller that you can build around. I saw an

757
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: effort here to boost defense. Yeah, yes, I think it's

758
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: a really good class in that respect. Desmond Evans and

759
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy to four star defensive ends. They bring in

760
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: a four star tackle, they bring in two four star safeties.

761
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: Mac Brown knows that he needs to get better as

762
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: a defensive entity. It can't all be on the arm

763
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: of Sam Howell, and though he did add some pieces

764
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: along that offense that can help. What he did on

765
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: defense is definitely pretty striking.

766
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I am excited for North Carolina football moving forward,

767
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: and it's been a little while since I was able

768
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: to say that. But with Virginia losing Bryce Perkins, with

769
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: Pitt's offense not really looking like it's going to do much,

770
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: Miami is still a huge question mark, even with de

771
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: Eric King, but that's a new system, new coordinator with

772
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: Rhet Lashley Duke seems to be not heading in the

773
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: right direction. Georgia Tech is going to take a while

774
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 2: longer the division for them. I mean, we'll see what

775
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: happens with Virginia Tech, but there's transition there among that

776
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: coaching staff. The window is right there for North Carolina

777
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: if Sam Howell, If samhow improves from being one of

778
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: the best I don't know, three freshman quarterbacks in the

779
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: country last year, depending on how everything falls for you

780
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: and Keton Slova's is in that conversation, Dylan Gabriel. But yeah,

781
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: they should be winning what you said they Their record

782
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: this past year was six A, six plus a winning

783
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: the ball.

784
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: That's correct.

785
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: Yep, they should be winning nine games next year. Yeah,

786
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: I don't have their non conference schedule in front of

787
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: if they if their defense can improve, especially what against

788
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: the pass, and I don't even love all the quarterbacks

789
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: they'll be facing, they become a pretty dangerous team.

790
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: Last window team here that'll throw out. Texas is back. Baby,

791
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: they got that window. They have that window. It made changes.

792
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: Texas is back. They made some changes. They won the

793
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: Big twelve recruiting race by a nose over the Oklahoma Sooners, right,

794
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: and it was It's an interesting class the way they

795
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: went about formulating this. So the their top prospect, as

796
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, Bjean Robinson, a running back out of Tucson, Arizona. Yeah,

797
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: number one running back in the country. But beyond that,

798
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: they went out and made a very concerted effort to

799
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: try and secure a quarterback of the future. So Sam

800
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: How not going to be there forever. Sam How could

801
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: get hurt tomorrow even though he's been pretty durable. Hudson

802
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: Card and Jaquindin Jackson, Yeah, are.

803
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: The Hudson Card.

804
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. There are two four star quarterbacks that they were

805
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: able to reel in from the state of Texas, in

806
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: addition to the other like sixteen recruits that they got

807
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: from the Great State of Texas. So that's all notable.

808
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: I think that bubbles to the surface and it definitely

809
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: stands out on the top line. But they need defense.

810
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: This is a class that you can only construct if

811
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: you know you need defense. I don't know how else

812
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: to put it in. I'm looking at how they did this,

813
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: how they broke it down by the numbers. I see

814
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,959
Speaker 1: a lot at defensive line, linebacker, defensive back, Yeah, even

815
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: in the trenches on the offensive line.

816
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, they focused at offensive skill these past couple of

817
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: years and even felt like they focused on the secondary

818
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago with a ridiculous class and

819
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: strong at safety this year. And they have a window,

820
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean essentially, because we don't know what to expect

821
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: out of presumably Spencer Rattler at Oklahoma. We have a

822
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: number of second year guys in the conference. Sam Allinger's

823
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: back for his seventeenth year. If there is going to

824
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 2: be a season in which they put it all together,

825
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: and the guys that you are mentioning these are probably

826
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: rotation guys because all healthy Texas has a good amount

827
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: of talent on both sides of the ball. But the

828
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: window is there that even if these rotation guys work

829
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: out as true freshmen. They should be in a really

830
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 2: good spot. I'm not sure who you're terrified of right now.

831
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: With Baylor, who was really really strong last year. They're

832
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: working in a new coach and we'll see what this

833
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: offense looks like. Defense, they should be very strong once again,

834
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: I would imagine TCU I don't feel great about right now.

835
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,439
Speaker 2: West Virginia I think still has a ways. Kansas State,

836
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: Texas has a such like their window is so obvious,

837
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: which should be terrifying for for Longhorn fans.

838
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: What else do we got here?

839
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: So we've alluded to some teams with new coaches, new

840
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: building crews, tie just learning the architecture, looking at the blueprints,

841
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: figuring out their own blueprints. They have to know where

842
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: beams are going at this new place. They have to

843
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: know the plumbing, the electricity. They're learning on the job.

844
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: They haven't had much time to piece together these classes,

845
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 2: but I think it's important and we talked about this

846
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: once again a couple months ago when we did our

847
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: early signing day show Ole miss lower part of the SEC.

848
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: In terms of recruiting class under Lane Kiffin, they focused

849
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 2: on the trenches and in the secondary I know You'd

850
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 2: love to call them demon clowney, but it's demonologize tie.

851
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: I know, and I think promising thing for ole Miss

852
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: is one The defense took a nice step forward last

853
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: year under Mine McIntyre. It's Dj Dirkin at least as

854
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: the co defensive coordinator, and even with all of the

855
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: legitimate baggage he brings along with his name, they should

856
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 2: have a good defense. He's been a good defensive coordinator

857
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: along the way, or they should have an improving defense.

858
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 2: Last year was a huge class, like thirty thirty one

859
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: guys under Matt Luke, and it's around the same talent

860
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: level this year. Jerry and Eely obviously made an early

861
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: impact for the Rebels, and they've been pretty pretty active

862
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: on the transfer market. Brought in a couple tight ends

863
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 2: safety from Georgia. They convinced some of their guys that

864
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: enter the transfer portal to come back to Oxford. So

865
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: ole Miss pretty good. I think Lane Kiffin should probably

866
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: continue to do a good I would imagine top eighteen

867
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: classes for Lane Kiffin moving forward, considering his record as

868
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: a recruiter and what ole Miss is at least near

869
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 2: recruiting wise, staying in state. Mike Leach pretty similar. The

870
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: jewel of this class probably a manual Forbes. They need

871
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: all the help they can get in the secondary for

872
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: what we did or didn't see from from the Dogs

873
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: last year. Jordan Davis I think is a Juco guy,

874
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 2: and it was again, if they can pressure the quarterback,

875
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: that's better than what they were able to do for

876
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 2: much of twenty nineteen. kJ Costello is the big recruit.

877
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 2: We alluded to him earlier. That's the big recruit form

878
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: Mississippi State this year. How quickly can he get comfortable

879
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: in what everybody that has played for him has said

880
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: is the most simple offense imaginable the air raid Mike

881
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: Leach's version of the air raid. And Felipe Franks also

882
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: in the conference going to Arkansas, So at least there's

883
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: somewhat recruiting wise interesting quarterbacks heading to the SEC West

884
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: and Scott Lashley another guy coming in, a former Alabama

885
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: blue chip offensive lineman to fortify Mississippi State upfront. Will

886
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: stay in the SEC missoo also the lower part of

887
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: the SEC. But Ty, if you can please play Eli

888
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: Drinkwitz absolutely losing his markets.

889
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: Oh this is great.

890
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that is that is id tie. That is pure,

891
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 2: unfiltered id over a. I don't think he's a blue

892
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: star corner, but a corner who chose Maszoo and had

893
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 2: some laid offers from big places and so I respect it. Tie.

894
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: It was the adult version of do you remember the

895
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: video where the kid gets the Super Nintendo for Christmas? Oh?

896
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: I mean it was a little Howard Dean in there

897
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 2: wasn't there. It was Howard Dean put into a blender

898
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: with the spirit of whatever that video it was Super

899
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: Soaker or a Supernintendo was something super. Yeah, Yeah, I love that.

900
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: Eli Drinkwitz is amped on this signing day. They bring

901
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: in Damon Hazelton, which I think is something he led

902
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech and targets and touchdowns last year. At receiver,

903
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: it was not a great class last year. They brought

904
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: in some defensive back, so this year's class was pretty

905
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: even all over the place, pretty spread out. They did

906
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: focus a little bit on receiver, so I suppose we'll

907
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 2: see Missoo has a lot to work on after what

908
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: they finished looking like last year. Washington is on the

909
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: other end of things, Tye. We've talked about Jimmy Lake

910
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: a little bit, but this class was really strong. From

911
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 2: the Huskies and from Jimmy Lake. I'm still a little

912
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: bit out on the offensive coordinator higher John Donovan. You

913
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: probably have more thoughts about that than I do. But

914
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: Savelle Small's ed rusher who looks to be a nationally

915
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: elite edge rusher. I know he disappointed a little bit

916
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: at the All Star Games, but looks to be another

917
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: great Washington defensive player. Jalen McMillan, I know everybody in

918
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,479
Speaker 2: the country wanted at receiver. Ethan Garbers is the younger

919
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: brother of Chase Garber's. Yes there is another, and that

920
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: Washington quarterback job is pretty open. Jacob Sermon, Dylan Morris,

921
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: Chase Garber's, we'll see. They all sound like West Coast

922
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 2: quarterbacks to me. They did lose out on kJ Costello.

923
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: That's a name that we have said a lot this episode.

924
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: Last's class was also incredible, especially upfront on defense. So

925
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: just from a pure s talent talent standpoint, excuse me.

926
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: The Washington building crew, they have an understanding for the neighborhood,

927
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: for permits, for laws, for gardening, whatever needs to happen

928
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: at Washington.

929
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: Let me let me fast forward jump in over some

930
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: of the other teams I know we have listed. Yeah,

931
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: Florida State. Yes, Florida State, as we mentioned earlier, came

932
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: in behind North Carolina in terms of ACC recruiting. We

933
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: know there's work to do there. What did you see

934
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: from that building crew?

935
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: Obviously late for Mike Norvell coming into the process, not

936
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 2: there for the early signing period, but a pretty good

937
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 2: but not great. I think they finished fourth in the

938
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: ACC twentieth nationally at least in that area. The focus,

939
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: rightfully so, was on the offensive line, a little bit

940
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: on receiver Chubb a party I think is the headline

941
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: name along with the Morey Tates. Purdy is the younger

942
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 2: brother of Brock. He was committed to Louisville forever and

943
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: he flipped to Florida State late in the process. It

944
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 2: was an active year in both directions from Florida State,

945
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 2: both coming and going. They lost a couple of blue

946
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: chip receivers or pass catchers and a tight end to

947
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: who left for Georgia and a receiver who went back

948
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 2: to the West Coast to Oregon State. But they bring

949
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 2: in Jayshawn Corbyn from Texas A and m The class

950
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 2: wasn't where it was last year, but I imagine with

951
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: a full cycle, Florida State should at least be back

952
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 2: in that top dozen conversation. Okay, interesting I mentioned Rutgers

953
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: Boston College. There's not too much talk about They focused

954
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: on the offensive line. We'll see, and Wazoo is the

955
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: I think the lower part of the Pac twelve in

956
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 2: terms of talent. But Jaden to Laura same high school

957
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: as to a tongue of Iiloa Marcus Mariota in Hawaii,

958
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: So that makes sense with Nick Rolovich being a good fit,

959
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: although he signed I think before Nick Rolovich took the job.

960
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: So nothing too exciting transfer wise. It was the worst

961
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: class in the conference in twenty nineteen, so if they

962
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 2: can at least get to me, maybe it's just a

963
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: tough place to recruit to in terms of available talent,

964
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: high end talent, but you know, ninth or tenth in

965
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: the conference, we'll see, I think it can be pretty dangerous.

966
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: So one thing that we kind of alluded to here, yeah,

967
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: is turn key solutions.

968
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: Yes, always nice when you can just walk in and

969
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: there's your house.

970
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: You can walk in, there's your house. And we have

971
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: seen this, I think slowly develop over the course of

972
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: the last ten years certainly in the time that we've

973
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: been doing this podcast. But freshman quarterbacks are coming into

974
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: the college ranks much better prepared than ever before, and

975
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: so to have freshmen standouts like we saw this past

976
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: year a good number of them. Really, it's becoming far

977
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: more common. It's always exciting, but it stands to reason

978
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: that some of the names coming in this year, given

979
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: the fact that we've got questions around college football at

980
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: many starting quarterback positions, some of these guys could be

981
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: in a position to really make an immediate impact. So

982
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: give me, give me three names. I have three and

983
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: a half. I'll say on my list of freshman quarterbacks

984
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: that you look at the situation, you look at what

985
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: they bring to the table, and you could say, yeah,

986
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: I could see that quarterback either coming in and outright

987
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: winning the job or winning the job by say week

988
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: four or five. You got any names that jump out.

989
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 2: To you, There's nothing super obvious. Bryce Young is. Everything

990
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: I've heard about him is he's twitchy, he has that

991
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 2: special potential. Maybe he's a little bit like Kyler Murray.

992
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 2: He's not huge. He's gonna get that comparison because I

993
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: think he's under six feet tall, But He's still finished

994
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: as the number one quarterback in the nation. And while

995
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: I think mac Jones gave Nick Saban and the offensive

996
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: staff every reason to think that he can win a

997
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 2: lot of games for Alabama, he's not obvious obvious obvious,

998
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: like you know toul was before him when healthy. So

999
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: I think Bryce Young is certainly he's going to see

1000
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: the feet in some fashion. There are quarterbacks that I feel,

1001
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: if they are thrust into a situation because of injury

1002
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: or something happening to a starter, will miss limited beats.

1003
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: You know. It's dj ouyong Lele Well, I'm just Dju

1004
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: for Clemson, who's just built like a tank. He's like

1005
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 2: six five, two fifty. You know. Luke Dody is interesting

1006
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 2: to me at South Carolina because Ryan Halensky wasn't amazing,

1007
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 2: you know, being thrown into the fire as a true freshman.

1008
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 2: So we'll see there and physically I don't think he's huge,

1009
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: but we'll see he's well regarded. Ethan Garber's is a

1010
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 2: name that I know, our friend Yogi Roth really likes

1011
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 2: a lot. And it's tough to expect a true freshman

1012
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: to just win a job outright immediately. It happens we've

1013
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 2: you know, Sam Howell is a best case scenario, Dylan

1014
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 2: Gabriel a best case scenario beating out Brandon Wimbush last year.

1015
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: But there's nobody that I think is going to that

1016
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: is so good right now. And I guess, you know,

1017
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: Chabba party, we'll see. It's not like anybody at Florida

1018
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 2: State is incredible and has a lock on that job.

1019
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: But there's nobody right now to me that says, okay,

1020
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 2: they are immediately displacing a presume starter or somebody who

1021
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: has been waiting in the wings. But you know, at

1022
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: the top of this class, there's enough talent there at

1023
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: quarterback where yeah, if something happens to a starter, they

1024
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 2: can come in and uh and move the ball.

1025
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: So Bryce Young is the one that jumps out. Bryce Young,

1026
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: as he said, he's a slighter build, five to eleven.

1027
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: He's headed to Alabama, and of course Mac Jones is there.

1028
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is gonna have a thing or two to

1029
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: say about who gets that job. But you could see

1030
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: a situation where they play Bryce Young because he does

1031
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: bring an interesting skill set. From everything I've read about him,

1032
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: he is pretty much unflappable. M He does have a

1033
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: slider frame, but he seems to play his best when

1034
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: the pocket breaks down. Like most of these quarterbacks, his

1035
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: deep ball could be improved upon. But the comp that

1036
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: I saw was Russell Wilson. Wow, and that maybe a

1037
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: smaller version of Russell Wilson at this point he needs

1038
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,919
Speaker 1: to fill out. He's only eighteen. But yeah, nonetheless, that's all. Yeah,

1039
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good comp if you're getting that kind

1040
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: of quarterback. So it's tough to take a guy like

1041
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: that into a situation like Alabama where he does have

1042
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: such a good supporting cast and not at least think

1043
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, that's intriguing to me. Another one here

1044
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: that I'll throw out. We even talked a lot about

1045
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: Georgia even though they got the number one class.

1046
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 2: And Jamie Newman Jamie Newman as well.

1047
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: Jamie Newman comes over from Lake Forest. He is a transfer,

1048
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: but Carson Beck is their prize quarterback in this class.

1049
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: He's a four star. He was mister football, as they

1050
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: all are in the great State of Florida. Hails from Jacksonville.

1051
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: He's a different quarterback, right. He's not Bryce young at all.

1052
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: He's six four and a half two twenty six. He's

1053
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: a much bigger kid. The comp I saw for him

1054
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: was Deshaun Kaiser on twenty four to seven.

1055
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: Okay, big arm.

1056
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: And I wrestled with that little bit, and I was wondering,

1057
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: if you put the Sean Kaiser in that Georgia offense,

1058
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: how would they do.

1059
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: Hey do pretty well.

1060
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: I think he's got a pretty good supporting cast already.

1061
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: Obviously the recruiting has been there, and if the Jamie

1062
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: Newman thing doesn't work out, you could definitely see a

1063
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: situation where Kirby Smart hands the keys over to someone

1064
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: who's going to do enough to get the ball to

1065
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: playmakers and turn the ball over to defense and win

1066
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: a lot of football games. So that's an interesting situation

1067
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: because there's a supporting cast.

1068
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely no, He'll have good receivers. George Pickens obviously

1069
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: highlights the situation in Athens and the other advantages. It's

1070
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: not like an offensive coordinator comes in with his guy

1071
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: preconceived notions. Todd Monkin is new. This is a new

1072
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: offense we're assuming for Georgia. And I'm actually going to

1073
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: stay in the state because of Jeff Simms and he

1074
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: was committed to Florida State now Georgia Tech, And if

1075
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 2: you watched Georgia Tech football last year, you didn't come

1076
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: away thinking, man, do they have passing figured out?

1077
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? No.

1078
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: And Jeff Simms, the four star quarterback I think from Florida.

1079
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: He's skinny, but the ball flies off of his hand.

1080
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: I like watching him a lot than the limited amount

1081
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: of tape I've seen on him. I think he'll at

1082
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: least compete. I think he has an opportunity because of

1083
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 2: how much they're still overhauling the offense in Atlanta to

1084
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: see some time.

1085
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: The one that I am super intrigued by is Harrison

1086
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: Bailey at Tennessee. Okay, so Tennessee still has Jared Guarantano obviously,

1087
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: and Jared Garantano has been all over the map. Sometimes

1088
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: he's been really good, other times he's been really bad.

1089
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a situation where Harrison

1090
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: Bailey comes in and plays right away. I don't think

1091
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: it is. But he's a four star kid out of Marietta, Georgia.

1092
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: He's got prototypical size. The comp I saw was Kyle Orton,

1093
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: who's really good in college. If you remember Kyle True,

1094
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: he absolutely was. He by all accounts is the kind

1095
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 1: of guy who could thrive in a situation where he's

1096
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: playing off a lot of play action. And it seems

1097
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: to me like that's a spot at Tennessee that that

1098
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: could suit him well. If it falls through with Guarantano

1099
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 1: and if Harrison Bailey is given an opportunity, that's another

1100
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: situation where really good recruiting class. There's a lot to

1101
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: like about the way Tennessee played second half of the

1102
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: year last season, and that's an interesting situation to me

1103
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: as someone who could come in.

1104
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and big dude, physically he seems to be there.

1105
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: It's how quickly can you pick up the offense? How

1106
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 2: quickly you know, just being thrust as into the starting

1107
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: quarterback at Tennessee. It's a lot to ask Yoh for

1108
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 2: Shan Georgia playing Florida, Yeah, this is this is a

1109
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: lot playing South Carolina's defense. I wouldn't envy a situation

1110
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: like that, no matter how physically ready he may seem.

1111
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 2: I think Jarrett Garant Guarantano has that that job on lock.

1112
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 2: But we've seen bad Jarrett.

1113
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: Yes, it's exactly.

1114
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: It's ugly. It's really ly, so we could I could

1115
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: see reps be it in garbage time, be it against

1116
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: some smaller teams early, sure we could. We should be

1117
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 2: able to see something from him, even though there's a

1118
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 2: couple of a couple of guys ahead of him right

1119
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 2: now in the depth chart.

1120
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: Now the name and I said three and a half.

1121
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 1: The final name I'll throw out here. I really want

1122
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: to say Deuce Hogan at Iowa.

1123
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because his name is Deuce Hogan.

1124
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: I don't honestly believe that this is going to be

1125
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: a situation where he's going to do anything other than

1126
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: red shirt.

1127
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 2: I want to move on to teams because I have

1128
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: a natural transition from this discussion point that are desperate

1129
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, or updating and remodeling. Ty, you you've been

1130
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: in houses. I've been in houses. You walk in You're like, oh,

1131
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 2: you love nineteen ninety two. You really loved what nineteen

1132
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: ninety two look like where it's just white carpet and

1133
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: weird mirror placements and there's a sunken living room. You

1134
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about out Tie, just desperate for

1135
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 2: the property Brothers or Fixer Up or one of one

1136
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: of our favorite shows on was HGTV Need some Ship Lap.

1137
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: Let's start with some remodeling because let's start with Michigan State,

1138
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 2: whose offense was terrible. It's a big question mark at

1139
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: this point because we do not know what to expect

1140
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 2: out of this Michigan State team. We know that they

1141
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: focused on receiver that you know, a lot of receivers

1142
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: and running backs are out. They lost offensive skilled to

1143
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: transfer guys. Darius Snow is the jewel of the class.

1144
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: But this this is a Michigan State team who recruited

1145
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: well enough when they were winning games, they you know,

1146
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 2: whether it was Malik McDowell, whoever, where they were getting three,

1147
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 2: four or five six blue chips eventually in a class.

1148
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: There were zero in this year's class, lower part of

1149
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: the Big ten, So not a lot of optimism for

1150
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: immediate retooling, remodeling and renovation in East Lansing. But UCLA

1151
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: u CLA is a little bit interesting to me. They

1152
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 2: bring in a blue chip quarterback. They weren't great at

1153
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: quarterback last season, even though we went into it in

1154
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: a promising way. The focus in this class was upfront

1155
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 2: on defense, which it probably should have been. Damian Sellers

1156
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: great linebacker. Looks like I watched a little bit of

1157
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: his tape from Arizona quarterback from New Hampshire, the Granite

1158
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 2: State tie. And his name is Parker McQuary. And where

1159
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: is granite mined? Tie in a quarry?

1160
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

1161
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 2: That is a fun fact that only Tom Hammond.

1162
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: That is true. True.

1163
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 2: UCLA desperate for some renovation remodeling. Will see what happens

1164
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: in year three. But at least their recruiting is improving

1165
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 2: from where it was as they lose a ton of guys.

1166
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: They lost the O Howard's Oklahoma unfortunately he gets hurt.

1167
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 2: NC State. At least they finished in the top half.

1168
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: I think they finished number six in the ACC. They

1169
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: went hard after receivers. They revamped their coaching staff. Porter

1170
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: Rooks is the jewel of this class. They don't bring

1171
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: any transfers in, but twelve guys. Twelve guys will not

1172
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 2: be in Carter Finley next year. I guess that's probably

1173
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: headlined by Matt McKay, who I think a lot of

1174
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 2: people are optimistic about it. Quarterback. He goes to Montana State.

1175
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: So I'm not feeling great about NC state renovation. TCU

1176
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: third in the Big twelve. Your beautiful, beautiful purple horn

1177
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: Frogs tie. You're ready, right, I've been ready ready since

1178
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight. A lot of receiver, a lot

1179
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: of offensive line. They bring back Doug Meacham to take

1180
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 2: over the offense he once at least co coordinated. Justin

1181
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 2: Rodgers is out, Michael Collins is out. So it's a

1182
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: good class. It's third in the Big twelve. I'm not

1183
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 2: previewing TCU right now, but in terms of at least

1184
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 2: some optimism, there is reason to feel pretty good in

1185
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: Fort Worth, and that's to me, is the jewel of

1186
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 2: these renovation cases. I don't feel good otherwise about I mean,

1187
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 2: Missoo is desperate after last year. We went through their

1188
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: recruiting class and it's pretty good. I mean the Eli

1189
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: Drinkwitz fa or is elite. But I think of anybody's houses,

1190
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: of anybody's homes, the horn frogs have the best chance

1191
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 2: to D sync that living.

1192
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 1: Room, all right, D sink the living room.

1193
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: Dcink the living room. That's all I ask. A sunken

1194
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 2: living room is rough. Okay, Well, how do you feel

1195
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: about Notre Dames class? What is there anybody from Notre

1196
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 2: Dame's class that makes you and you can play it

1197
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 2: one more time, have a reaction just like Eli Drinkwitz did. Yeah,

1198
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 2: it did. Is there anything like a singular commit or

1199
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: class Yeah.

1200
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: Anything that gave me the full drink wits.

1201
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1202
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, it's it's tough to sort of

1203
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: compose myself after the Kyle Hamilton get last year. Like,

1204
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of okay, I'm still sort of in

1205
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: the in the glow of that one. I have a

1206
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: very unnatural affinity for Chris tyree Purpose, who I think

1207
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: that's from Virginia. Not a big kid, but really exciting

1208
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: someone who could give them some explosiveness. I really like that.

1209
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 2: What I like about it running the ball well these

1210
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 2: past couple of years.

1211
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's a bit of uncertainty about which direction

1212
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: that running game is headed. We saw questions on that

1213
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: front last year. Of course, they had some losses that

1214
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: they had to replace and injuries that they needed to

1215
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: deal with. So now as they kind of shift from

1216
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: Chip long over to Thomas Reeves, of course it's a

1217
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: question of, well, what does that running game look like?

1218
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: And I feel better knowing that they have some other

1219
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: weapons that they that they can use. They did go

1220
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: heavy at receiver though, and I think that's important. Notre

1221
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: Dame has done very well at the receiver position the

1222
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: last couple of years. It is a position they need

1223
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: to restock. So I'm excited to see guys like Jordan

1224
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:59,439
Speaker 1: Johnson who comes up from Missouri. Excited Xavier Watts, who

1225
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: is maybe only a three star but someone that I've

1226
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: read a lot of exciting stuff about as well, even

1227
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: at tight end. You know, their biggest recruit was a

1228
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of Michael Meyer, who is somehow

1229
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: only eighteen, but in his photo looks like he might

1230
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: be thirty eight.

1231
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like JJ Watts's uncle.

1232
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 1: He's incredible from Kentucky sixty four two thirty four. He's

1233
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: a five star tight end. I like the fact that

1234
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: they went out they got some of these guys that

1235
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: can make an impact on the offensive side of the ball.

1236
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: They didn't do it so much in a way that

1237
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: it disadvantaged other aspects of their recruiting class. They did

1238
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: pick up a couple offensive and defensive linemen, but I

1239
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: think by and large, when you look at this there

1240
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 1: was clearly a focus on adding some receiver options, and

1241
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: I like that. I think they did a pretty good job.

1242
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: Not as high a class as they've had in recent memory,

1243
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 1: but I think pound for pound a pretty good one.

1244
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: I think they were like number seventeen or something overall.

1245
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: I also saw they brought in a starting receiver from Northwestern.

1246
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: I think he probably has to sit out a year.

1247
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 2: I don't know what his transfer status is. Isaiah Pryor

1248
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: from Ohio State safety transfer yep to Notre Dame and

1249
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Huffman talked about. I think it was but Tosh Baker,

1250
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 2: the offensive lineman he loves from Arizona basketball player as well.

1251
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: Tall guys should develop well six Notre Dame, big dude.

1252
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: So good class for Notre Dame, very good. No more

1253
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: Chase Claypool, right, he's done.

1254
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 1: Chase Claypool is going in the NFL. Yeah.

1255
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they need to replace a good chunk of

1256
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 2: production there.

1257
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see. But I think by and large

1258
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 1: they did. They did a really good job. You know,

1259
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: Notre Dame won't be without its fair share of questions

1260
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: going into twenty twenty. But this is not a class

1261
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 1: that you're going to look at and say, oh boy,

1262
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: they're in trouble. This is this is a pretty good class.

1263
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: They will be without Phil dr Kovic, who transferred to

1264
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: Boston College. They will be without Filedderkovic also tie before

1265
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 2: we sign off, how many corrections do you think will

1266
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: be made by people listening to the show via email

1267
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 2: or Twitter or solidverble dot reddit dot com.

1268
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 1: Uh, about six and a half, That's what.

1269
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 2: I was thinking. I was right around a touchdown, that

1270
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 2: we pronounced a name wrong, that we got a position wrong,

1271
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: that we you know, somebody has torn their acl so

1272
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 2: clearly they're not going to be an early impact guy

1273
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 2: this coming fall. I would maybe we need an old

1274
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 2: stat boy type person, the stat boy PTI used to

1275
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: have because on these recruiting shows, woof six and a

1276
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: half is if we're under six and a half, I

1277
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 2: would consider the show to be a success.

1278
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: That sounds That sounds about right. Okay, now taking applications

1279
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,799
Speaker 1: for stat boy.

1280
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, or stat girl, stash stack girl, stat gal, whatever

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Speaker 2: you want to call yourself.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's National Signing Day it is. We

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Speaker 1: will talk more about this as we progress forward. Lord knows,

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of news to discuss. It doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: ever end, even though we are now squarely in the

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Speaker 1: college football offseason. So we'll be back in about a

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Speaker 1: week Yeah, talk through more of what's going on. We've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff planned. As we sat at

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Speaker 1: the top. Subscribe to the show so you get everything

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Speaker 1: also sign up for the newsletter. Again, as I said

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Speaker 1: at the top, we are starting to think about live

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Speaker 1: shows for later this year. What's up Ketch You can Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you want to be notified early and often about those,

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Speaker 1: get yourself the best chance of tickets. You can sign

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Speaker 1: We promise we're not gonna spam you. It's not.

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Speaker 2: What is our number one? Because we discussed this and

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01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 2: we know where our downloads come from, yep, so we

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Speaker 2: knew when the National Championship game was in Atlanta, for instance,

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Speaker 2: We're like, we have a solid chunk of people in

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Speaker 2: or around Atlanta that we think might show up, and

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Speaker 2: they did. We had an amazing crowd in Atlanta. Or

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Speaker 2: Chicago had a great crowd. Dallas Fort Worth area had

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Speaker 2: a great crowd. We've really we've we've been strategic. What

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Speaker 2: is a city that is probably nowhere near our most

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Speaker 2: listened to city or town or whatever. But there's a

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Speaker 2: robust little following like are we huge in Missoula? Like,

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Speaker 2: at least compared to other podcasts I'm not doing, like

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Speaker 2: do you like is? Do you do? You always see like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we've we've got like a steady eighty three people listening

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Speaker 2: in Paris, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't. There's something surprising. So I'll say this.

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Speaker 1: I don't have in front of me the full list, okay,

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Speaker 1: of of where we're downloaded, but I do have a

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Speaker 1: top twenty five okay, and the top twenty five has

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Speaker 1: had some some interesting results over the span of the

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Speaker 1: last year. The one that jumps out to me as

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Speaker 1: being one of our most downloaded cities is Philly.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, love Philly.

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Speaker 1: Now Philly doesn't exactly fall into the you know, small

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Speaker 1: town motif, so to speak, but Temple Zone Philly has

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Speaker 1: done really well for us, and Philly is obviously very

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Speaker 1: close to me, So that would be an intriguing spot.

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Speaker 1: Dark Horse, Yeah, an intriguing spot. Some of the other

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Speaker 1: ones that I find of interest, I've heard good things

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Speaker 1: about Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I've been there. It's a good time.

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Speaker 1: I've never been to the Pacific Northwest. I've been to Portland, Oregon,

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Speaker 1: but I've never been to Seattle. And Seattle does pretty well. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's another one and one other one that I'll throw

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Speaker 1: out here just off the top of my head because

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Speaker 1: I can't seem to get this to load. We had

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Speaker 1: a really good time in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: We did have a great time in Minneapolis. Facts only,

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Speaker 2: so just some places that are of interest. But Philly,

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Speaker 2: if i'm if I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: Put off the cuff here, Philly is the one that

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Speaker 1: surprises me, maybe because it is known more of a

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Speaker 1: professional sports town than a college town. But yet we

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Speaker 1: get a ton of downloads from there.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we like there's no Yeah, I want to know,

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Speaker 2: like what market number one oh four is?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are we big and broken Bow Nebraska? Are we big

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Speaker 2: in Overland Park? That's just Kansas City, though.

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Speaker 1: We're big in Spartanville, South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: There's one that would be oh see, that's great, great

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Speaker 2: to know playblow Colorado.

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Speaker 1: I will find these you know.

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Speaker 2: That El Segundo Yell? Okay, all right, I would go

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Speaker 2: to flag Staff. There's a pizzaria. I really want to Honestly,

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Speaker 2: if we could do a show at Pizza Cletta in Flagstaff,

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Speaker 2: I'd be thrilled.

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Speaker 1: All right, well right in. You know, sOliver bloodgmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Let us know where you want to see us. We

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Speaker 1: already have pretty good data on where our people are at,

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Speaker 1: but we're always up and open minded for new suggestions.

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Speaker 1: So Soliverblodgmail dot com or any of our social channels

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Speaker 1: is where you can hit us up and let us

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Speaker 1: know what's on your mind, where you might want to

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Speaker 1: come and see a live show. As we are planning

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Speaker 1: that stuff out for probably later July, early to mid August,

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Speaker 1: some time in that time block. We'll be back in

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Speaker 1: a week. We'll talk more college football Dan. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoy the rest of your evening and all.

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Speaker 2: Of your week. Thank you you too, Ty.

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Speaker 1: I will talk to you soon. I will talk to

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Speaker 1: all y'all pretty soon here as a college football offseason

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Speaker 1: plods forward. For that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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Speaker 1: Die Hilton Brand. Thanks again for tuning in, Cat y'all soon,

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Speaker 1: Stay solid, hey,