WEBVTT - So You Wanna Cancel Thanksgiving?! 

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Getty and He Armstrong and Eddy, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty one year old man, reclaimed a Guinness World Record

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<v Speaker 3>by solving a Rubik's cube in eleven seconds while blindfolded.

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<v Speaker 3>When asked how he planned to celebrate, he said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm definitely not getting laid.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is an old joke, but it's such

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, blunt object version of that joke.

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<v Speaker 5>It's indelicate, Michael, indelicate, I is a good way to

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<v Speaker 5>put it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, thank you. So it's elect communists across the country day.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get into some of those races. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to actually win their seats, I hope, but uh,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to get the nomination. It looks like we've

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<v Speaker 2>also got the AI is going to ruin everything story

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<v Speaker 2>of the day that seems to be a a drum

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<v Speaker 2>beat every day now. So yesterday on the show, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>brought us some information about the whole Nancy Guthrie case.

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<v Speaker 2>Savannah Guthrie from the Today Show Mom disappeared. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that whole story I'd ignored every story on this for

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<v Speaker 2>months and months and months now because they would claim

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<v Speaker 2>there was an update and it would be nothing new,

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<v Speaker 2>So I just stopped paying the attention to that story. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>something new came out over the weekend, and Joe brought

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<v Speaker 2>it to us yesterday, which I thought was really really

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<v Speaker 2>damned interesting, and then a perfectly reasonable reaction by the

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<v Speaker 2>way yours. And then it turned out Heather Myers, who's

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<v Speaker 2>been doing our news filling in for Katie Green while

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<v Speaker 2>Katie Green was on maternity leave. Katie is back, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, and we'll be talking to Katie a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit later the full strength of the Armstrong and Getty Show,

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<v Speaker 2>just in time for me to take a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days off before the kids go back to school. But Heather,

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out, was at the Nancy Guthrie home. How

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<v Speaker 2>soon after she disappeared, Heather.

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<v Speaker 6>I happened to be in Phoenix covering another story, and

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<v Speaker 6>I got the call, you need to go to Tucson,

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<v Speaker 6>which is about an hour and a half outside of Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say I was there within about forty eight

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<v Speaker 6>hours after she was reported missing, and that's when the

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<v Speaker 6>networks were slowly starting to arrive on the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha. And then so some of the reporting Joe had

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday that it turns out the local people did not

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<v Speaker 2>handle it well in the beginning, you can verify.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, one of the main points that was made was

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<v Speaker 5>that the crime scene was terribly handled. Evidence was trampled on,

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<v Speaker 5>people were allowed to go in and out, and they

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<v Speaker 5>ignored some of the blood evidence that was absolutely key

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<v Speaker 5>to the case. But again, Heather witnessed this personally, tell

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<v Speaker 5>us what the crime scene looked like.

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<v Speaker 7>It was bizarre, you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I was standing outside of her home, which

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<v Speaker 6>is on a very quiet street. All of the homes

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<v Speaker 6>are set back far from the road. It's extremely dark

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<v Speaker 6>at night. I'm talking like, you can't even see the

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<v Speaker 6>homes from the road at night. No street lights, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think.

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<v Speaker 7>And we would.

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<v Speaker 6>Watch people walk up her driveway, which is not a

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<v Speaker 6>paved driveway, it's a mix of dirt and gravel, and

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<v Speaker 6>walk right up to the front door where there are

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<v Speaker 6>blood spots. There were reporters with their cell phones taking

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<v Speaker 6>video of these blood spots and then walk off. And

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<v Speaker 6>there was a private person, not a law enforcement officer,

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<v Speaker 6>looking at maybe somebody of the family had hired to

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<v Speaker 6>sit in front of the house in their car in

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<v Speaker 6>the driveway, and then every now and then, I would

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<v Speaker 6>say maybe one to two times a day, the law

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<v Speaker 6>enforcement would show up, put back up crime tape, go

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<v Speaker 6>inside the house and remove boxes of items, and then

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<v Speaker 6>as they leave, they take the crime tape back down again.

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<v Speaker 5>So we understand what crime scene tape is for. It's

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<v Speaker 5>not to ensure they have their personal space. It's to

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<v Speaker 5>keep people away from the crime scene. I'm not a cop,

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<v Speaker 5>and I know that.

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<v Speaker 6>We would go door to door asking for neighbors. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>do you have any ring camera footage? Have the cops

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<v Speaker 6>come here yet? No?

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<v Speaker 7>They would say no.

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<v Speaker 6>And then there was a couple of major shopping centers

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<v Speaker 6>I would say within a quarter of a mile. So

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<v Speaker 6>I went over there and said, do you have any

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<v Speaker 6>surveillance video from that? And have the cops come to

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<v Speaker 6>ask for any surveillance video?

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<v Speaker 5>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>In the middle of that, No, they had.

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<v Speaker 6>Not come to the Why am I going there before

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<v Speaker 6>the cops are to ask for any surveillance footage?

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<v Speaker 7>So it was handled so strangely.

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<v Speaker 2>That part is probably just the resources of a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>small town not having to deal with, you know, major

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<v Speaker 2>cases very often the whole crime scene tape though, that

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<v Speaker 2>one's inexplicable.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it was bizarre.

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<v Speaker 5>And the underplaying of the blood on the Oh, oh

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<v Speaker 5>my god, so many.

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<v Speaker 2>Disappear sobody disappears from my house, one of my family members,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's blood spots out far the door. That seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a pretty big Scooby Doo sort of clue. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>here you go. Number one.

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<v Speaker 5>The appointed headed of homicide, Sergeant David Stivers, was reprimanded

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<v Speaker 5>two months before Nancy's kidnapping for poor judgment. Blamed for

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<v Speaker 5>delay securing crime scene evidence in a homicide case. Wow,

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<v Speaker 5>that's completely unrelated. Charges into that homicide case were dropped

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<v Speaker 5>for insufficient evidence. Stivers and his detectives arrived at Nancy's

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<v Speaker 5>house in the late afternoon of Sunday, the first of February,

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<v Speaker 5>a day or two before Heather was there.

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<v Speaker 2>For hours, they gave little regard to.

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<v Speaker 5>The dried blood on the front porch, said people familiar

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<v Speaker 5>with the investigation. They suspected the blood might have come

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<v Speaker 5>from some unrelated head bump, nosebleed, or other incidental injury.

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<v Speaker 6>That people said, that's so shocking because it wasn't one

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<v Speaker 6>or two specks of blood or four five? There are

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<v Speaker 6>major droplets of not a puddle, but clearly identifiable blood

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<v Speaker 6>and several droplets.

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<v Speaker 2>You saw it with your own eyes.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw it.

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<v Speaker 6>From the reporter who had walked up there and take

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<v Speaker 6>in the cell phone foot But.

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<v Speaker 5>It is so bizarre and inexplicable. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 5>got to be missing a key piece of information. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>you have a missing person, even if you suspect it's

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<v Speaker 5>an oldster who wandered off, and you see blood spatters,

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<v Speaker 5>is It's incomprehensible to me that they handle it the

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<v Speaker 5>way it is being alleged, right, I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 6>The one time where I told you guys yesterday the

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<v Speaker 6>pizza A news crew had ordered a pizza because there's

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<v Speaker 6>no restaurants nearby, and the pizza man walked up to

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<v Speaker 6>the front door of the hall standing on you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the blood spots, spots standing on the portion or.

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<v Speaker 2>The evidence that ever occurred in the whole thing that.

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<v Speaker 5>Is now get this believed to be related to the abduction.

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<v Speaker 2>The blood Wow. Well, so that was the update Heather

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<v Speaker 2>had for us just that. Coincidentally, we have Heather filling in,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was there. But then your update from the news,

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<v Speaker 2>which I hadn't heard about the notes. That's I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hear this, so you brought it to it. Yeah, one

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<v Speaker 2>more thing about the investigation. The sheriff's department launched drones,

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<v Speaker 2>but their best piece of search equipment was a Cessna

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<v Speaker 2>surveillance aircraft that had both infrared and zoom lens cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>But they couldn't find anybody to fly it for hours

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<v Speaker 2>and hours and hours because the guy who used to

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<v Speaker 2>fly it. Now this is circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence does

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<v Speaker 2>not equal proof. But this guy, the deputy, backed the.

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<v Speaker 5>Sheriff's opponent in the recent election, and gosh, when the

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<v Speaker 5>sheriff got reelected, he decided this deputy had screwed up

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<v Speaker 5>and demoted him for he says on the job stuff

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<v Speaker 5>unrelated to the election.

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<v Speaker 8>Boy.

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<v Speaker 5>But so this guy couldn't fly the plane anymore, and

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<v Speaker 5>they so they had to wait till the other guy

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<v Speaker 5>who could got back seven eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh boy. That's the kind of things that can

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<v Speaker 2>happen in a You know that nobody notices if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a major crisis.

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<v Speaker 5>Come along right right, And I have known enough fairly

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<v Speaker 5>high place officers of the law who've been involved in

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<v Speaker 5>a sheriff's elections and that sort of thing to know

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<v Speaker 5>that when some of them back person a and some

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<v Speaker 5>pack be the knives are out. Anyway, to the notes,

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<v Speaker 5>Jack mentioned the two ransom notes that we all heard

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<v Speaker 5>about on the news that I assumed at the time

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<v Speaker 5>and said were probably a crack pot, and I was

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<v Speaker 5>surprised they were being taken as seriously as they were. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>what we didn't know was the first note that was

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<v Speaker 5>much discussed in the media, a promise to release Nancy

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<v Speaker 5>unharmed in exchange for a payment in Bitcoin of six

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<v Speaker 5>million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote.

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<v Speaker 5>Her life is in your hands, said the note, which

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<v Speaker 5>included details only a kidnapper would know, including missus Guthrie's

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<v Speaker 5>white apple watch and where.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, destruction of the bedroom, et cetera. Oh and

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<v Speaker 2>you put those details into show that you're not a crackpot. Exactly, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>Now that would be chilling, can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 5>Then a second note came out, and you may remember

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<v Speaker 5>that Savannah Guthrie and two of her siblings, as I recall,

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<v Speaker 5>were seated on a couch tearfully asking the person to

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<v Speaker 5>do the right thing. That second note we now know said,

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<v Speaker 5>and I quote, we did not fully grasp the seriousness

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<v Speaker 5>of her physical condition. We never intended to hurt her.

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<v Speaker 5>That was not her intention. She perished shortly after she

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<v Speaker 5>was taken. We believe it was heart related. She is

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<v Speaker 5>buried in nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, that hole, you didn't intend to hurt her.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing doesn't matter. Sorry, but maybe it makes you feel better. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that is a stupid person who got in way, way,

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<v Speaker 5>way above their heads and was half panic stricken.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that had to be brutal to find out those

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<v Speaker 2>were real. And then they get that note. So how

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<v Speaker 2>long have they known she was dead?

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<v Speaker 5>This was it doesn't have a date on that second note,

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<v Speaker 5>and she'll never be found. It's unlikely enless the person

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<v Speaker 5>is arrested and exchanges that knowledge for perhaps a softer sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point. I hate the idea that

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, I assume it's a guy, get to weigh

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<v Speaker 2>with it. Oh, yeah, I was a guy.

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<v Speaker 5>He makes several references to we in the ransom Moses,

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<v Speaker 5>who knows that may be legitiated?

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<v Speaker 2>Not was it that weirdo from that video. We also, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>per got to be Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 6>You know when we go back and look at that

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<v Speaker 6>surveillance video that you know that gave us all, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>nightmares after seeing the person who was at her porch

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<v Speaker 6>with the mask on that that person who somewhat looked

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<v Speaker 6>kind not I mean sophisticated, but not extreme.

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<v Speaker 7>How have they not been able to trace these notes?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean the technology that we have out there, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>confused on you know, why we have never been able

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<v Speaker 6>to find like the back end of these emails.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I think there are there are technologies these days that

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<v Speaker 5>encrypt things pretty well and cover your tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were dealing with a dufis here though.

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<v Speaker 5>We think you right, Yeah I did, with all due respect, Heather.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean donning a mask in gloves, isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That sophisic walking right up the camera with your face

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<v Speaker 2>staring at it? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>And then they're like, oh, it's a Walmart backpack you

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<v Speaker 6>must have. Let's look at the maybe a shop dot Walm.

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<v Speaker 7>We are no close to finding this.

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<v Speaker 5>Guy, So so what's your takeaway?

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<v Speaker 2>One of mine is.

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<v Speaker 5>If you suspect your local police department is doing a

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<v Speaker 5>crappy job of investigating something.

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<v Speaker 2>You might be right.

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<v Speaker 5>I've known cops investigators, many of them for many, many years.

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<v Speaker 5>Some of them I would describe as the smartest, most

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<v Speaker 5>conscientious people I've ever had the honor to know, and

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<v Speaker 5>some I would describe as dopes, like every walk of

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<v Speaker 5>life true.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you've also got the you know, who do

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<v Speaker 2>you need for this job? And how much do you

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<v Speaker 2>need to pay to get a certain kind of person

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<v Speaker 2>because we live in a town where not much happens,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got that whole thing, and how many resources

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<v Speaker 2>you need because we hardly have any crimes, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>point in having some sort of setup. We're ready for

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of thing to happen all the time, when

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<v Speaker 2>it never happens.

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<v Speaker 5>And then there's a question of pride and the territorialness

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<v Speaker 5>between agencies and that sort of thing. And when you

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<v Speaker 5>ought to bring in the heavy hitters immediately, sometimes folks

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<v Speaker 5>resist that. But case this high profile and this critical,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is not shoplifting.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a person being abducted. That it was handled

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<v Speaker 2>that badly is just it's disappointing. The crime seemed tape

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<v Speaker 2>is hard to explain. But so we got one minute left.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a sentimental sort of person. Is this goodbye, Heather?

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is goodbye.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh you know, guys, thanks for letting me fill in.

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<v Speaker 6>This has been such a treat to join you guys,

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<v Speaker 6>But most importantly, Katie, I wish you all the best.

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<v Speaker 6>There is something so sweet about that first baby and

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<v Speaker 6>then trying to come back to work, and I know

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<v Speaker 6>behind the scenes is chaos when you've probably got a

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<v Speaker 6>baby that needs to be fed and you're to you know,

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<v Speaker 6>get back to your normal routine, and I just I

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<v Speaker 6>wish you nothing but the best and lots of time

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<v Speaker 6>just holding him, because if I could go back and

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<v Speaker 6>just hold my kids, who are now teenagers, one more time,

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<v Speaker 6>I would.

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<v Speaker 7>I would trade the world for it, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely soaking in all the snuggles and Heather, you

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely killed it filling in for me, So I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for you as well. Well, very big shoes.

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<v Speaker 7>That underestimated.

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<v Speaker 5>But now Katie's back to enjoying the cruelty and verbal

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<v Speaker 5>abuse that is working with Jack and mice.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I never love, And that might have been the

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<v Speaker 2>nicest moment ever in the thirty plus years of the

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty Show. When it's no surprise that it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come at the hands of Joy that we needed

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in other people to pull this off. But

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<v Speaker 2>do what do we do Heather?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Do we send you a bunk cake? Or is there

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of something least?

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<v Speaker 7>No, you do not need to do a thing.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like you guys put up with me trying

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<v Speaker 6>to learn the ropes, and then I appreciate your patience

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<v Speaker 6>along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>You are very professional. Appreciate all your health you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, thanks, all right, well take care of te you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun and uh thanks and we do have to break it,

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. But what Heather said to you, Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about that the other day with my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>just like, what would I give for one day of

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<v Speaker 2>the I come home when they're still I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>picking age four, four and six or three and five,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're so excited that I got home and they

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<v Speaker 2>run up, what are we going to do today? You

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<v Speaker 2>know that that? What would I can't even think about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Are all blub Oh I know, I know. Oh, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys will blubber.

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<v Speaker 9>If we talk about it anytime soon because I had

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<v Speaker 9>an old glovering.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, thanks everybody. But anyway, we got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more coming today, so stay here, armstrong and getty. So

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<v Speaker 2>this franchessa Hong communist who's running up in Wisconsin is

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<v Speaker 2>getting a lot of attention and might set back the

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<v Speaker 2>DSA by decades, according to one of my favorite thinkers.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that's true, but more on that later.

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<v Speaker 5>Meanwhile, you have a Jew hating Islamic premisest, also a

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<v Speaker 5>fake communist I believe running in Michigan much more dangerous

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<v Speaker 5>than the half wit in Wisconsin, but will highlight them

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<v Speaker 5>both in the coming half hour.

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<v Speaker 2>So opkay, you stay with us. I like the rock

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<v Speaker 2>and roll.

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<v Speaker 5>I go to rock and roll shows now and again,

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<v Speaker 5>even as an old fella, and I have been shocked.

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<v Speaker 5>I can think all of us at ticket prices lately.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's an article about how artists are rolling out

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<v Speaker 5>twenty dollars concert tickets for their fans because their fans

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<v Speaker 5>are freaked out at the prices. Blah blah blah. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a limited number. I think it's mostly just a pr or.

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<v Speaker 2>We're shocked. In what direction they're going up or down?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, bup up, up up super high. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe continue to go up.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, oh yeah, yeah, but they're like Olivia Morgan, whoever

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<v Speaker 5>that is. Oh, I'm sorry, that's the fan, not the artist.

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<v Speaker 5>Olivia Rodrigo is the artist in question. And Cold Player

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<v Speaker 5>putting out a limited number of twenty dollars tickets, which

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<v Speaker 5>is nice, I suppose, but it's not clear how somebody

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<v Speaker 5>against them.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a gimmick. Were the economics of concerts? Why didn't

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<v Speaker 2>they charge this much way back in the day if

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<v Speaker 2>they could get away with it? What shame? Ban backlash?

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<v Speaker 5>Because back in the day it was much more art

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<v Speaker 5>and much less commerce, And it would be offensive to

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<v Speaker 5>you if your favorite actual creative artist would hammer you

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<v Speaker 5>for every dime they could get. It was a different relationship. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>I could write an essay on it. But a decade

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<v Speaker 5>ago average ticket to a top one hundred tour went

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<v Speaker 5>for eighty three dollars or so. Now it's one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and thirty dollars. They don't adjust that for inflation, so

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<v Speaker 5>those are useless numbers. But I thought this was interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Here's a twenty six year old Austin In Austin, a

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<v Speaker 5>young woman who budgeted around two thousand dollars this year

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<v Speaker 5>for concerts and another one thousand for traveling to shows

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<v Speaker 5>and getting hotels. She flew to Bonnaroo in June. She'll

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<v Speaker 5>see Rodrigo this fall. I'd rather spend money on an

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<v Speaker 5>experience than a new pair of shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well good, as long as she isn't railing.

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<v Speaker 5>Against Capitol, voting for socialists, and then complaining that there's

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<v Speaker 5>no opportunity these days.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one thousand percent behind you, sister, as long as

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<v Speaker 2>you don't, you know, vote in such a way that

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<v Speaker 2>this lifestyle is getting in the way of what you

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<v Speaker 2>want to achieve. She budgets thousands for concerts from.

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<v Speaker 10>Abdul l say Ed is the progressive who has the

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<v Speaker 10>backing of the Democratic Socialists of America. He wants to

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<v Speaker 10>abolish ice, cut off a USA to Israel, and has

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<v Speaker 10>made medicare for all one of his signature issues.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in the opportunity we have in front of

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<v Speaker 2>us to.

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<v Speaker 10>Correct both the moral failures of the past and the

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<v Speaker 10>moral failures of our present.

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<v Speaker 11>I think most people in Michigan agree that l Saied

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<v Speaker 11>is the favorite, strong favorite going into the voting, So

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<v Speaker 11>it is going to give the left a burst of momentum.

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<v Speaker 2>If he does win this nomination, it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to watch man. This l sied guy is going

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<v Speaker 2>to win today, is going to be the Democratic nominee

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<v Speaker 2>to be a US S running against a pretty strong

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<v Speaker 2>Republican sitting Senator Mike Rodgers up there in Wisconsin. But

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, he is a flat out you think he's

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<v Speaker 2>more of a h Islamist or co one hundred percent. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I was just about to say.

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<v Speaker 5>It bothers the hell out of me what we just heard,

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<v Speaker 5>and it reminds me of a couple other you know,

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<v Speaker 5>wars of the use of language we've been in in

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<v Speaker 5>the last years since the woke Apocalypse. Islamists who want

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<v Speaker 5>to overthrow Western civilization in the name of Islamic supremacism,

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<v Speaker 5>supremacism and.

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<v Speaker 2>Usher and Sharia law.

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<v Speaker 5>They know they can't run on that, so they say

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<v Speaker 5>to some of themselves, what can we say to get

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<v Speaker 5>people of the West to support us? And the answer

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<v Speaker 5>is you appeal to young people and claim your socialist

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<v Speaker 5>It's the Red Green Alliance. I've been talking about a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of folks have I've got the whole history

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<v Speaker 5>of it. If you want it. It is Islamists joining

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<v Speaker 5>with radical leftists to overthrow the status quo. And then

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<v Speaker 5>as soon as the status quo has overthrown, the Islamists

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<v Speaker 5>slit the throats of the leftists and take control. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>else I had couldn't give a crap about socialism.

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<v Speaker 2>Please.

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<v Speaker 5>He's constantly preaching about Medicare for all that would eliminate

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<v Speaker 5>private insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you or medicaid Medicare for all?

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<v Speaker 5>Anybody on Medicaid can tell you I've got two different

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<v Speaker 5>kinds of insurance along with medicaid.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't do that. He's a liar. His you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Medicaid for all.

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<v Speaker 5>His wife, who's a psychiatrist, won't even take medicaid. The

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<v Speaker 5>guys in Islamist trust me. Oh, his wife and his

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<v Speaker 5>father in law both with close ties to terrorist organizations

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<v Speaker 5>or fundraisers for terrorist organizations. It's obvious, but everybody refers

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<v Speaker 5>to him as a leftist because it feels a little

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<v Speaker 5>big at it. I don't know to talk about him

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<v Speaker 5>being a Muslim.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, We've got such a long way to go before

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<v Speaker 2>our eyes are open as a country. Best if he's

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<v Speaker 2>if he's seen as the socialist candidate, you can get

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<v Speaker 2>into the hole. Well, what do they mean by socialism?

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<v Speaker 2>They you know, they don't really know what they're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>that whole argument. Uh, And it's not as scary. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was interesting. So Barack Obama came up with

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<v Speaker 2>a great phrase years ago. I think whenever you talk

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<v Speaker 2>about getting close to election days the silly season, because

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<v Speaker 2>people during the silly season say all kinds of things

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<v Speaker 2>that are just nuts. The closer you get to election day.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, because I usually see Bernie as a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>straight shooter. He is a socialist and he doesn't hide it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought it was interesting. The other day Bernie

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<v Speaker 2>was in Michigan campaigning with this El Saad and he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing his you know, his gravelly voice, and he

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<v Speaker 2>cares about the working people and that's why he's not

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<v Speaker 2>taking a dollar from a pack. And I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a second, he's for the working people and that's

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<v Speaker 2>why he's not taking a dollar from the Israeli lobby.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you switched subjects here, honest, without the people

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<v Speaker 2>understanding what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 5>Number one issue in that race is Israel right for

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<v Speaker 5>a United States senator.

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<v Speaker 2>So seriously, even Michigan, even Bernie tried to pretend that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here supporting another socialist, but I know to get

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<v Speaker 2>him elected, I got to talk about the Israel stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that is troubling and telling He's going to win today.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mark Alprin's writing on this for a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks has been the interesting thing here is how the

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<v Speaker 2>big wigs in the Democratic Party are going to handle this?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to because the Senate is tight? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the Platiner attention that got over one seat, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not because anybody gives a crap. Who's the US Senator

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<v Speaker 2>in Maine, tiny little state far away from you. Probably,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the balance of power in the Senate is really

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<v Speaker 2>really close, and whoever controls the US Senate, all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of things can happen or not happen. So one seat

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<v Speaker 2>is huge. All those people trying to help Platner or

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<v Speaker 2>this or that to get him pushed out because of

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<v Speaker 2>that one race gonna be the same in Michigan, So

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<v Speaker 2>you got el sad. Is Barack Obama going to campaign

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<v Speaker 2>with him? Is Chuck Schumer tonight going to say and

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<v Speaker 2>we will vote for outside? Is he gonna say that

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<v Speaker 2>as a Jewish guy running the Democratic Senate. Clinton's all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of different people. What are they gonna say about this?

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<v Speaker 2>They're trying like hell to get his opponent elected.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, when l si Ed wins, so oh boy,

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<v Speaker 5>that'll be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be a tough spot. They're gonna be in

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<v Speaker 2>a really tough spot politically. I mean because there's a

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<v Speaker 2>video out today, or it's been around for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>but I saw today of him and Hassan Piker. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you got the whole thing with James Carvell saying this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be in a party with a son poker.

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<v Speaker 2>Either he's leaving or I'm leaving. So you got that

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing. It could get very interesting, like tonight when

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<v Speaker 2>the campaign acceptance speech is going on and your CNN

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<v Speaker 2>news panels full of Democrats are pulling at their collar.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we are really excited about this. Obviously Islamo

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<v Speaker 2>fashion half a communist being our nominee. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mentioned earlier that thousands of nine to eleven families

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<v Speaker 5>have told Mamdannie don't come to the memorial this year.

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<v Speaker 5>I am absolutely certain that Elsa had and his family

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<v Speaker 5>were rooting for the hijackers on nine to eleven and

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<v Speaker 5>not the passengers and not the people in the buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>So that race. So he's a formidable, smart guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>is that. Uh, and all the stuff that Joe just explained.

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<v Speaker 2>You got this other person running in Wisconsin, Francesca A. Hong,

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<v Speaker 2>who's just a what is she just a congress person there?

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<v Speaker 2>She's part time bartender. Isn't she currently the front runner

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<v Speaker 2>in the Democratic primary for governor of Wisconsin. Bah bah

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.680
<v Speaker 2>blah blah bah. Anyway, she's a member of the Democratic

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<v Speaker 2>Socialist of America also, and as we talked about the

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of weeks, and you know, their platform includes

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<v Speaker 2>lots of crazy crap like closing prisons and abolishing the

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<v Speaker 2>Constitution and all kinds of different stuff. Anyway, she's been

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<v Speaker 2>asked about a number of things. She is not a smart,

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<v Speaker 2>formidable person, but she still might get the nomination. Here

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<v Speaker 2>she is on CNN and they got on this topic somehow.

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<v Speaker 9>You said Americans should cancel Thanksgiving. Should have done this

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<v Speaker 9>in sixteen twenty one. The post has been deleted. Republicans

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<v Speaker 9>have been highlighting it. Do you still believe that Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 9>should be canceled?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a chef and one of the first meals that

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<v Speaker 4>I made that was for the community when I was

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<v Speaker 4>sixteen was a Thanksgiving meal. Now, I always think my

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<v Speaker 4>hospitality background and owning a restaurant for seven eight years,

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<v Speaker 4>that bringing folks around the table to share conversation and

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<v Speaker 4>build community is always a good thing, Okay, But Thanksgiving

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<v Speaker 4>is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people

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<v Speaker 4>in our communities, and so I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It is I wanted to make sure it is at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Understood that there are multiple views, but views can evolve,

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<v Speaker 4>and the position that I'm running for right now, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think my background as a chef will actually help

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<v Speaker 4>me become a better governor that's able to bring more

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<v Speaker 4>people to.

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<v Speaker 2>The table, literally the Thanksgiving table. So that is being

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<v Speaker 2>highlighted by lots of Republicans because it's just it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of funny that you wouldn't, well, she's obviously a dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody who who was a serious politician would find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to pivot out of that stupid controversy very quickly,

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 2>get to something anybody cares about. What is what is

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<v Speaker 2>abolishing Thanksgiving as an issue in this country ninety eight too?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what the hell? And again it does not

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<v Speaker 2>exactly rise to the top one thousand issues on any

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<v Speaker 2>gallup poll of what people are caring about. The colonialism.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why she oppressed the opposes its colonialism.

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<v Speaker 2>How about the next one in order, Michael, with tipping

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<v Speaker 2>and being racist. I haven't heard this.

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<v Speaker 8>One in the service industry. We are finally having this

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<v Speaker 8>conversation about, you know, how our industry really did come

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<v Speaker 8>from it and kind of is rooted in white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 8>That tipping in itself. If we look at the history

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<v Speaker 8>of tipping and how racist it is and how it

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<v Speaker 8>has kept wages low for black people for a very

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<v Speaker 8>long time, and if you look at tipping now, how

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<v Speaker 8>different the scales are in terms of of who receives

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<v Speaker 8>higher percentage of tips over other folks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, she's one of those people. Okay, so somebody bringing

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<v Speaker 2>you food to your table at a restaurant is all

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<v Speaker 2>from white supremacy, and we got to do something about

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<v Speaker 2>the tipping situation.

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<v Speaker 5>In a post a few years ago, she said, I

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<v Speaker 5>ate two bites of my kids cheeseburger at Culvers in

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<v Speaker 5>Black River Falls and told them they ran out of

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<v Speaker 5>ice cream. But mostly I just wanted to leave because

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<v Speaker 5>I was on the verge of an anxiety attack too

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<v Speaker 5>many old white people who didn't think we spoke English.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, English something something. She is a absolutely

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<v Speaker 5>poster child for even study miseducated, obsessed with colonialism.

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<v Speaker 2>Soft head, right, she is not vernable. But you know,

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 2>these people got the wind at their back because there's

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<v Speaker 2>such a stiff breeze blowing towards socialism, which a lot

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 2>of young people think is the same as socializing.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's why or they bought a great lie of communism.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. But one of my favorite thinkers wrote, ironically, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a very real possibility that Francesta Hong is such an

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<v Speaker 2>electoral disaster for Democrats that she sets Dems back a

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<v Speaker 2>few years but also sets the DSA back decades and

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 2>devastates the reputation of zelots like Hassan Piker. That could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, this could be. This could be really good

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<v Speaker 2>news for people who hate socialism, her getting a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>stage and then just getting trounced in the election. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>Well said, well, read thank you disclaimer for the ages.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a ongoing conundrum. It seems like in politics,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:21.440
<v Speaker 2>do you fight to stop dangerous and or dopes from

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<v Speaker 2>getting into office or do you hope that they win

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<v Speaker 2>nominations so they can discredit that ideology. I guess that's

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<v Speaker 2>an ongoing thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I think if you are an American citizen who loves

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<v Speaker 5>this country, you fight stupid ideology every time you hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good idea too. I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the I haven't heard of this go around, but lest

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>few election cycles we've heard both sides do this, where

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<v Speaker 2>you spend money on a bad candidate or an evil

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 2>candidate to try to get them the nomination. And I

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>don't like that. That is playing too close with the

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<v Speaker 2>playing with matches.

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<v Speaker 5>Well yeah, and you're allowing the weed of their awful

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 5>ideas to row and flourish.

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<v Speaker 2>And as we've.

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<v Speaker 5>Seen lately, and I've been thinking about this a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>and we've got more audio to play. Maybe we can

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<v Speaker 5>do it on the other side of the break, but

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<v Speaker 5>the you know, I've got to collect my thoughts. I'm

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 5>sorry I got distracted. I'm easily distracted. You'll learn that

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 5>about me. About the effect of really bad ideas on

0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 5>young people and how we as a people have assumed

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<v Speaker 5>because we've been so successful and so comfortable, that the

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 5>idea of radical political movements has always been kind of

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 5>just funny to us or pathetic. It's like, you know,

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 5>upstart football leagues, you know what's going to happen. You know,

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 5>you think, wow, they're going to try that again, and

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 5>sure enough, two years later they declare bankruptcy and we're

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<v Speaker 5>all watching the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, poor idea reality shows, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and we have that idea about radical political moments too,

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 5>but if you study it around the globe and through history,

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 5>you know that often they succeed and either take power,

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 5>millions of people die. And we are much much closer

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<v Speaker 5>now to this radical political movement getting the stage where

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:18.000
<v Speaker 5>people die or certainly fortunes are lost and people are

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 5>oppressed and screwed bad. And so yeah, I don't like

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 5>the idea of let's put some fertilizer on these weeds

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 5>because when the time comes, we'll just mow them down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, careful. I came across some interesting information about that

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 2>whole data centers and the amount of water they use

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>that if true. Is just why is this a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>at all? Among a lot of other things we're going

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 2>to talk about today, stick with us base officers enforce.

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<v Speaker 12>The law with state sanctioned violence, and then an excuse

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 12>for violating people's rights because they aren't expected to know

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 12>the law. The abolist police spent nearly five million dollars

0:31:57.960 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 12>implementing trainings increasing diverse. We're caring to strength and save

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 12>relationships between comps and communities. It didn't work any city

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.560
<v Speaker 12>that have local control of how they dismantle their police

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 12>systems to rebuild new community control systems rooted in preventative

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<v Speaker 12>care and reducing harm. Defund the police, protect black lives,

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<v Speaker 12>and build a care community.

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<v Speaker 4>This is what we need.

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<v Speaker 5>Francesca Hong trying to be the governor of Wisconsin calling

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<v Speaker 5>for the defunding of the police. Just a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>years ago, she was on with theb notious Dana Bash

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<v Speaker 5>on CNN and Dana asked her about those.

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<v Speaker 1>Beliefs Back in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, you wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>I support defunding the police as a first step towards

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<v Speaker 1>abolishing the police, and that reform can't be an option.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you say that a governor cannot defund the police,

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<v Speaker 1>and that you do not want to quote govern by slogan.

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<v Speaker 7>I just want to be clear.

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<v Speaker 1>Does this mean that you no longer believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>goal of defunding and ultimately abolishing police that you posted

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<v Speaker 1>about five years ago.

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<v Speaker 13>I believe that safety is a human right, that I'm

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<v Speaker 13>going to be a governor that is more serious about

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<v Speaker 13>public safety than any other governor, and I'm willing to

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<v Speaker 13>work with community organizers, faith leaders, local governments where public

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 13>many of our public sits are funded. And if anyone

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 13>believes in defunding the police, it's been Robin Voss and

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<v Speaker 13>the Republicans and the state legislator who have ruled the

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<v Speaker 13>legislature for over sixteen years and have no palms around

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<v Speaker 13>defunding our local governments where these are folks who provide

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<v Speaker 13>some of the most essential services in preventing violence and

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<v Speaker 13>making sure that we're getting guns off of our street.

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<v Speaker 13>And so to be serious about public safety, I'm most

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<v Speaker 13>interested in making sure that we are being tough on

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<v Speaker 13>the causes. If we're going to be tough on crime

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<v Speaker 13>and make sure that we build community safety.

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<v Speaker 7>All across the biness.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a Wendy's what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 5>And for the millions time, when somebody is charged with

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 5>gun enhancements or gun charges, if they're more tan than me,

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 5>people like Francesca Hong won't charge them.

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<v Speaker 13>You.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yes, you said something disparaging about Dana Bash of CNN,

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<v Speaker 2>but I appreciate her staying on this when she got

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<v Speaker 2>a non answer. That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 5>So the insufferable miss Bash continues to ask the unpalatable

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<v Speaker 5>Miss Hong, so has your opinion changed? And Hong says, well,

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<v Speaker 5>people can evolve, and Dana Bash says, did you evolve? Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>I've evolved, So has your opinion changed? They go back

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<v Speaker 5>and forth for a full sixty seconds on this. We're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna skip that so you don't go completely insane and

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<v Speaker 5>end with the final, you know, segment of that discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to just to sort of put a

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>fine point on it. You said your views can evolve?

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<v Speaker 1>Have your views like her fifth attempt the police?

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<v Speaker 13>We had a police shooting in my hometown of Madison, Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 13>It's actually the third one in on Willie Street, which

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.239
<v Speaker 13>is in my district, and it's difficult for me to

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<v Speaker 13>think about what I would say to a mother who

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 13>has lost their children to police violence, but I know

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:14.800
<v Speaker 13>that we can change these systems that must be changed.

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<v Speaker 13>There are folks who work in prisons. They have some

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 13>of the highest suicide rates for any employment. That we

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 13>need to make sure that every incarcerated person can live

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<v Speaker 13>a life of dignity. That ninety nine percent of incarcerated

0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 13>folks in our state will be going into community and

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<v Speaker 13>we have to lower those RECIDIVI recidivism rates, to make sure,

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<v Speaker 13>invest in mental health resources, in tackling the opioid in

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<v Speaker 13>opioid academic and I think that when we have a

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<v Speaker 13>governor that believes in those things, we can achieve public safety.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't hear it.

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<v Speaker 5>Answers you was going to get into like the designated

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<v Speaker 5>hitter and food additives.

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<v Speaker 2>There. She covered a lot of ground in that non answer. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate Donna Batna, Dana Dana. I appreciate her saying

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, I didn't hear a yes or no there.

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<v Speaker 2>That was after like four full minutes and seven different

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<v Speaker 2>attempts to get a yes or no. Where you are

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<v Speaker 2>on defunding the priests police, which is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst polling ideas in the history of politics, by all people.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh what bothered me is a bullssers that wasn't even

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<v Speaker 5>good bulls that wasn't even a good dodge.

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<v Speaker 2>She's bad at it. State Rep. Francesca Hong likely to

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<v Speaker 2>win today and be the Democratic nominee to run for

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<v Speaker 2>governor in the state of Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 5>Long and grow strong, and getty