WEBVTT - How Your Personality Shapes Your Golf Game

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode is with Kyle Aldrink. Kyle is a PGA pro,

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<v Speaker 1>a teaching pro He has been my teacher for nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a decade, although I have not gone and gotten a

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<v Speaker 1>lesson in a few years. Kyle is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>brightest young minds in golf instruction. He's been on Golf

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<v Speaker 1>Digest list of top teachers under the age of forty

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<v Speaker 1>for a few years running. He has come up with

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<v Speaker 1>a new system called the Mental Golf Type and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all centered around personality traits. So I'm sure many of

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<v Speaker 1>you that work in an office or team setting at

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<v Speaker 1>your job are aware of personality tests and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they help you work with different people in a workplace. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this he's over to golf and I had never really

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<v Speaker 1>thought of it, but then Kyle kind of talked to

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<v Speaker 1>me about the stuff he'd been working on, and I

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<v Speaker 1>took the personality test and sure enough, like it, like

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<v Speaker 1>hits exactly what type of golfer I am, where I

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<v Speaker 1>have struggles everything. So I had Kyle on we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this personality test and personality based things with golf

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<v Speaker 1>and how you should approach it. He has a Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>page at a Mental Golf Type. I'd recommend following that

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, if you're interested, check out his website.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a free personality test there and you can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get started into looking into, you know, different things

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<v Speaker 1>and tendencies and how you should, you know, go about

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<v Speaker 1>playing better golf. So this is a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>than our standard episode, but I found the topic extremely fascinating,

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<v Speaker 1>so I figured you guys would too. Without further ado,

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<v Speaker 1>here is Kyle Alderink I.

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<v Speaker 2>Miss a green, for example, upset when I find my

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<v Speaker 2>ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I find my.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball in a bright egg Friday egg, the dreaded Frida egg,

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<v Speaker 2>Frida egg egg bride egg lie, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>About ready to run off the golf course. Uh mental

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<v Speaker 1>golf type. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's just putting it right on blast there at

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning. I love it. I mean essentially, what it

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<v Speaker 3>means is everybody's not the same.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the easiest and simplest way to put it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, But in terms of mental game performance, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>kind of tries to lump everybody into the same category.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, when I really was diving into uh

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<v Speaker 2>sports psychology and mental game and performance and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>I realized the message was always the same and It

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<v Speaker 2>never really made sense to me because you just, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you talk to enough people, dude, like nobody's really wired.

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<v Speaker 3>The same way.

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<v Speaker 2>How people play, how people perform is going to be different,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you see different personalities on the tours.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you see your.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryson's and you see your Justin Thomas's and your Dustin's

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<v Speaker 2>and Lexi Thompson's. I mean, everybody's just got their own

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<v Speaker 2>kind of way of doing things. And what I really

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<v Speaker 2>noticed was, you know, it was the ones at the

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<v Speaker 2>higher level that were the ones kind of being okay

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<v Speaker 2>being them. It was the ones on the lower tours,

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<v Speaker 2>the minis or college trying to work their way up,

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<v Speaker 2>that was trying to follow everybody else's way of doing things.

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<v Speaker 2>So I always found that kind of fascinating, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>getting deeper into it, you know, the I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of the background is I came across this guy,

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<v Speaker 2>John Weir, who introduced me to personality types and how

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<v Speaker 2>that and how these facets of our personality affect everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I met when he was working with Mike Bender as

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<v Speaker 2>a lead academy, and you know what he showed me

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<v Speaker 2>kind of just rock my world.

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<v Speaker 3>Man. It changed my whole way of thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so obviously, like anybody that works in an office

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<v Speaker 1>can relate to this. I remember a couple of my

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<v Speaker 1>jobs we did personality tests and just understanding how your colleagues,

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<v Speaker 1>what their types of personalities they are, help you work

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<v Speaker 1>with somebody better. So I imagine golf is no different,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's you're working with an instructor, you're working with

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, a physio you're working, or you're just

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<v Speaker 1>working on yourself, working on becoming a better player. Understanding

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<v Speaker 1>your strength and weaknesses as a person and your your

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<v Speaker 1>type of personality, how you take in information is very

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<v Speaker 1>important on the golf side.

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<v Speaker 3>Well for sure, you know, and people don't like to

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<v Speaker 3>be lumped in a box. My argument's always been everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>been lumped into a box, especially into that.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the application that is really unique to what

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<v Speaker 2>mental golf type does. And you know, I've seen personality

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<v Speaker 2>stuff around even as a coach, where you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>would offer, hey, this person you need to be more

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<v Speaker 2>gentle with and things like that, but it never really

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<v Speaker 2>gave an application of how does this help players perform better?

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what John introduced me to, which was

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<v Speaker 2>really the game Changers is stress is really what tanks

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's performance. Like you and I know because we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about it for so long, it's not your swing breaking down,

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<v Speaker 2>Like your swing doesn't change that much. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Jordan's speed through his struggles, his swing

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<v Speaker 2>didn't look a whole lot different, if any different than

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<v Speaker 2>when he was number one in the world. But like

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<v Speaker 2>stress and what stresses players and the effects that the

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<v Speaker 2>body goes through is really what's breaking that down. The

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<v Speaker 2>interesting thing is it's unique to everybody. It's unique to

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<v Speaker 2>your personality. Like some people are stressed out by the future,

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<v Speaker 2>some people are stressed out by the past. One person's

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<v Speaker 2>still pissed off about the three putt three holes ago,

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<v Speaker 2>while the next person's worried about tanking their you know,

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<v Speaker 2>their score three holes ahead. You know, some people are

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<v Speaker 2>getting way too under their swing mechanics. Some people are

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<v Speaker 2>seeing too much where the ball can't go, and that

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<v Speaker 2>stresses them out. Like a really good way to think

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<v Speaker 2>about this is like if you just build the biggest, scariest,

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<v Speaker 2>baddest roller coaster on the planet, and like me and

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else is sitting there looking at this thing. One

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<v Speaker 2>person is probably like excited as how running at this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like excited to get on it, and you got me

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<v Speaker 2>who's turning around.

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<v Speaker 3>The other way running for dear life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing, but how we internalize that is

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<v Speaker 2>totally different. And essentially that's what our personalities are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like situations the golf course or pressure or anything is presenting,

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<v Speaker 2>people are internalizing that different. So how they use their

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<v Speaker 2>personality is either going to help them get into an

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<v Speaker 2>optimal state of mind or it's going to stress them

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<v Speaker 2>out and tank their performance. Yet they'll run to the

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<v Speaker 2>range and work on their swing because they think they

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<v Speaker 2>got to get their P four better or something.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you're a golf instructor by trade, you know PGA,

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<v Speaker 1>served by golf coach, You've been a teacher, You've been

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<v Speaker 1>on the you know Golf Digest best teachers under forty.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got a lot of students, you know, myself being

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. But I've been the most delinquent student

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<v Speaker 1>over the last three years. But you have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Han Who's who's got you know, conditional status on

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<v Speaker 1>the web tour, number of college players, number of great

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<v Speaker 1>junior players starting to understand mental types and personality traits.

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<v Speaker 1>How has that changed the way you coach your different

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<v Speaker 1>players a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>What I started to notice is the students that I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Have, the Jordans that use the ones I had for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time that really thrived and not saying nobody

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<v Speaker 2>else did, but you know, the ones that really could

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<v Speaker 2>thrive where you could not play a lot and still

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<v Speaker 2>go qualify for US mid Am or you know, win

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<v Speaker 2>some local stuff. They were my saint personality type.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was a lot easier to.

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<v Speaker 2>Communicate and get messages across because the stuff that was

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<v Speaker 2>working for me that I thought was the absolute way

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<v Speaker 2>to do it fit that.

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<v Speaker 3>In our way, fits what like mental game books coach.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is about seventy five percent of the population

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<v Speaker 2>or more is not even close to like we are,

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<v Speaker 2>So that message kind of falls upon deaf ears. Like

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<v Speaker 2>some people need that aim small and this small and

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<v Speaker 2>need to actually have something in their swing. They think

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<v Speaker 2>about where some people need to get up like Bubba

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<v Speaker 2>Watson and say I'm just gonna hit a fade, and

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<v Speaker 2>like they.

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<v Speaker 3>Need to see bigger targets and zones. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 3>an example.

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<v Speaker 2>I have two sisters locally here that are both really

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<v Speaker 2>excellent players, both collegiate players, ones going off to college,

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<v Speaker 2>ones starting their college.

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<v Speaker 3>Career, and they're why you're totally different.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually just took it, took a video of

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<v Speaker 2>them on the range one day, arguing about exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about. One was like, you know, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>look at something so small. I feel so constrained and restricted.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about like lines on the ball. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, I don't even know how you can see

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<v Speaker 2>something so big like that just freaks me out. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's literally argument about the difference of that. But I

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<v Speaker 2>have to talk to them totally different, even though we're

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<v Speaker 2>in the same kind of setting.

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<v Speaker 1>So in a in a real like world setting that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody would understand, you're talking about maybe Bryson versus Dust Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>They just like the way they approach the game of

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<v Speaker 1>golf completely different. Both exceptionally talented and both very successful,

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<v Speaker 1>but they couldn't be more extreme. So when it boils

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<v Speaker 1>down the way they practice, the way they approach the game,

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<v Speaker 1>the way they think about where they're hitting shots, to

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<v Speaker 1>the way they're coached needs to be tailored towards their

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<v Speaker 1>distinct personalities.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct for sure, because that's what motivates them. Their minds

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<v Speaker 2>kind of light up. Like you know, Bubba Watson had

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<v Speaker 2>an article or he was talking about someone told him

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<v Speaker 2>that he had a chicken wing in his swing and

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the fear is always if you took someone

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<v Speaker 2>like that and you put them into more of a

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<v Speaker 2>Bryson d. Chambeau way of doing things, very mechanical, scientifical,

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<v Speaker 2>we probably would have never heard of Bubba or Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Ferrick or players like that. But again, if you if

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<v Speaker 2>you take a Bryson, you're like, dude, you got to

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<v Speaker 2>get off track, man, and you know you got to

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<v Speaker 2>just play like an athlete type thing. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 2>probably not hearing a Bryson like he's okay being who

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<v Speaker 2>he is, even though he's pissing some people off.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hm. You know, I think obviously people understand personalities

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<v Speaker 1>at a broad scale, like you've got your extroverts in

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<v Speaker 1>your introverts. I think that people understand that so at

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<v Speaker 1>a very basic level, Like you know, if I'm if

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<v Speaker 1>I know I'm an introvert, or if I know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>an extrovert, you know what are the types of things

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<v Speaker 1>that I could just improve by thinking certain ways, or

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<v Speaker 1>what should I stay away from? Should I stay away

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<v Speaker 1>from magazine tips?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Like yeah, no, that's that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 2>And the extravert instrovert one I don't think is understood

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<v Speaker 2>all that well. I mean, we just kind of think

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<v Speaker 2>about as talking and not talking essentially, that's what that

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<v Speaker 2>really is is our energy source. Extroverts get really energized,

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<v Speaker 2>like even myself just starting to talk to you, like

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<v Speaker 2>I get very energized, where introverts will get more exhausted

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<v Speaker 2>by that. Like introverts talk a lot, they just typically

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<v Speaker 2>will talk to a close knit circle, like they're just

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<v Speaker 2>not the ones to go socialized with everybody because it

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<v Speaker 2>comes a little bit exhausting. They also just internalize things

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<v Speaker 2>a lot better, so they get clear on ideas more internally.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the simplest things is extroverts should just

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<v Speaker 2>talk shots out loud, even though even if it might

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<v Speaker 2>look them a little crazy. Like one two wins a

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<v Speaker 2>little into me, all right, that's seven iron here we

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<v Speaker 2>go like something like that. We had a guy email

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<v Speaker 2>us that picked up one of our programs and he's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>just I just went to talk to my shots out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>and I shot like thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I've never broken forty five before. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>But like introverts, you know, when they're forced to talk,

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<v Speaker 2>or like in college settings, sometimes college coaches are are

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<v Speaker 2>harping on them like, hey, what are we doing on

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<v Speaker 2>the shot? And they're forcing them to talk and not

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<v Speaker 2>letting them be internal, and that stresses them out. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>introverts should just always have a little bubble of hey, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I get within ten yards of my ball,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna just focus on my internal details.

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<v Speaker 3>Extroverts should always be kind of talking their stuff out.

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<v Speaker 2>But again in terms of articles, like it's just knowing

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<v Speaker 2>what to listen to, you know. I mean, Sean Foley

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<v Speaker 2>is a great coach. His stuff is really good for

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<v Speaker 2>a certain popular you know, and so forth, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>coaches out there again there, Hey, you know, track man,

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't use that type thing. And that's why there's

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<v Speaker 2>always this heavy debate because it's really good for some

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<v Speaker 2>not good for others. And it's just knowing where you

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<v Speaker 2>fit in that mold.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying that there isn't one right way to

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<v Speaker 1>approach and play and teach the game that that wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>bode well, that's almost two reasons for you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>internet discussion right now. You know there has to be

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<v Speaker 1>just one way.

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<v Speaker 2>Right well for sure, right and I mean then people

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<v Speaker 2>really staunchly believe in their ways and whether it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>any walk of life. Which we don't want to go

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<v Speaker 2>off topic here, but but that's why there's so much argument,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like, you don't believe what I believe, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to be wrong. But that's the thing, is like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's different. People are just different, man, and and

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<v Speaker 2>things that work for players are different. That's why I

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<v Speaker 2>had some students that I really cared about earlier in

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<v Speaker 2>my career left and I didn't understand it till now,

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<v Speaker 2>is because I wasn't speaking their language. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>probably for the better because they went and did well

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<v Speaker 2>under somebody that coached totally different than I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like that there should be a mandatory personality

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<v Speaker 1>test before you start working with an instructor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that helps with this, right, I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>has a lot of applications. Caddy players, coaches, students, parents, students,

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<v Speaker 2>is a huge one, because again, you know, parents and

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<v Speaker 2>kids butt had a lot over some things where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I had a parent who was just losing his

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<v Speaker 2>mind because his kid wouldn't use a line of sticks

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<v Speaker 2>and he just isn't wired to do that, Like he

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<v Speaker 2>just like he sees shapes of shots, so he's aiming

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<v Speaker 2>right and drawing and aiming left of fading, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>like he's aiming left. I'm like, he's playing a fade dude.

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<v Speaker 2>And like his dad would just lose his mind. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't understand it, but that's like his way of operating.

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<v Speaker 2>When you got those line of sticks down, he was

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<v Speaker 2>just freaking out, Like he got all restricted.

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<v Speaker 3>He started worrying about his swing too much and he

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't hit it on the face.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny. I was talking with a buddy

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<v Speaker 1>who's a good mid end player, and he was telling

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<v Speaker 1>me he was struggling, and he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he was talking about stuff at impact position, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it's so funny you're saying that because like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never won ever thought about how I'm hitting a

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<v Speaker 1>golf ball. And he's like, well, what do you what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about I'm like, well, I just have

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<v Speaker 1>like the hardest time in the world getting set up

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<v Speaker 1>and getting the club to the top of the swig.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's where all my struggles are, Like I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't set up to a ball. And it's that's when

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<v Speaker 1>we talked, you know about this more. I just like

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<v Speaker 1>it dawned on me. It's like we're just completely opposite

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<v Speaker 1>people and like and this is where it goes to,

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<v Speaker 1>like the it adds like fuel to the fire of

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<v Speaker 1>like why are you asking your buddies that you play

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<v Speaker 1>golf with what they're thinking about, because what works for

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<v Speaker 1>them probably is completely different than what works for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean yeah, that's always my favorite, right when

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<v Speaker 2>everybody says, well, what do you think about it?

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<v Speaker 3>When you do this? I mean that can lead down

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<v Speaker 3>some dark pasts.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the one that I stole the phrase from player envy,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I use that all the time after you and

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<v Speaker 2>I talked. I think that's a brilliant word, and I

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<v Speaker 2>deal with that a lot, especially on like the collegiate level.

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<v Speaker 2>You always kids are you know, somebody else on their

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<v Speaker 2>teams playing well and they're like, dude, dude, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing? Like, you know, what are you working on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think players can get lost when they don't

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<v Speaker 2>know those things that are right for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think like it's it's the whole thing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>every golfer is just like your fingerprints, like unique, You're

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<v Speaker 1>unique to yourself. And I think one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting with this whole system is it gives you

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<v Speaker 1>a better understanding of yourself and from there then you

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<v Speaker 1>can build how you practice, how you work on your game,

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<v Speaker 1>how you think about the game around that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So if somebody is interested in really drilling into this,

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<v Speaker 1>they can go to your website mental golf type and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a free test. I just went through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you walk us through? You know, it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>an introvert extrovert thing. There's other variables, what what all?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? It's like it took me fifteen minutes to

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<v Speaker 1>do the test, but what are all the different things

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<v Speaker 1>that it pulls out on.

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<v Speaker 3>A fifteen minutes?

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<v Speaker 2>Man, you must have been lily gag And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I think legitimately they'll take five.

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<v Speaker 1>Minutes, very easily distractable.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, no, no, So it's a good question. And

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<v Speaker 2>like you alluded to one, you know, you said, like

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<v Speaker 2>I feel things. So essentially there's four major facets to

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<v Speaker 2>people's personality. There's there's our energy, which we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>extrovert introvert. There's our perception and focus. So essentially how

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing targets, how we're perceiving the world. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>what helps us to stress.

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<v Speaker 3>Us Like some need to be very darrow, some need

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<v Speaker 3>to be broad.

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<v Speaker 2>Some need to be thinking more targets, the need thinking

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<v Speaker 2>more about what we call players side, which is swing.

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<v Speaker 3>There's how we evaluate and make decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's what we call thinkers, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>head deciders basically need facts like you're Bryson d. Chambeau

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<v Speaker 2>and need a lot of data. They need kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a system type thing. And there's feelers who are more

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<v Speaker 2>trust their gut and they just kind of have this

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<v Speaker 2>emotional intelligence about you know, what the right decision is.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they can still use information, but they come

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<v Speaker 2>to it a little differently, more like using their heart

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<v Speaker 2>or their gut versus like the percentages fit this, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going with it no matter what versus. You know, a

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<v Speaker 2>feeler like yourself might be sitting on a tight Part

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<v Speaker 2>four and just be like I got driver, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel it, you know, it's just a little different thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there's our structures, so how we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>manage the golf course, how we set up practice plans.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's our judgers, which is what everybody wants the

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<v Speaker 2>world to be, which is very on time, very structured,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to do list calendars. And then there's people

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<v Speaker 2>like you and me who are completely out of order

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<v Speaker 2>and random. We call them perceivers. They just think you

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<v Speaker 2>know what perceivers do. They work super hard and short,

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of short burst, I guess, but whatever motivates them,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll just go hard at and then they'll jump to

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<v Speaker 2>another project. They typically have four or five things going

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<v Speaker 2>at once. And you and I know we speak that

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<v Speaker 2>same language where like a judger, they gotta go they

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<v Speaker 2>need a list like ten minutes this, ten minutes, ten

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<v Speaker 2>minutes this.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to know they're gonna be at nine to thirty,

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna be here.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know or you and I are like, oh man, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like it's funny because like I when I want

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<v Speaker 1>to write something, you know, if I have if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>writing for somebody else and they tell me what I

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<v Speaker 1>need to write, it's like the most excruciating process for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great it I can even come up with the idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but then once I get into it, like so many times,

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<v Speaker 1>when I sit down to write, I start writing and

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<v Speaker 1>then what I end up writing is completely different than

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<v Speaker 1>what I think I'm going to write when I sit down,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the same way with like with golf

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<v Speaker 1>and what I practice. And it's probably a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I'll work on everything, but I get

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<v Speaker 1>to the range and then I get working on something

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<v Speaker 1>and I will go work on something else for fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll come back and I'll go back over there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just really whatever I kind of like is jogging

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<v Speaker 1>my memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it keeps us sharp. And I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's what it is. Like we get excited to do

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<v Speaker 2>a new thing. So you know, perceivers do really good

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<v Speaker 2>with like a practice menu. Like with them, I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>to just give them, Hey, here's five things I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to accomplish, and just go do it.

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<v Speaker 3>You get to get it done, and they'll get it done.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it just might be in a crazy order.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm. We're judgers.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like if you look at some of these

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<v Speaker 2>practice plans I write up, like they're painful for me

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<v Speaker 2>to write up, but essentially it's like, dude, these things

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<v Speaker 2>are ten minutes. That's ten minutes, ten minutes that this

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<v Speaker 2>is your goal accomplished this. I mean they're very, very structured.

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<v Speaker 2>So like my girl tests who's playing on the Cemetra Tour,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, her practice plans like make my head hurt,

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<v Speaker 2>but like she'll go out there and be like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know what I accomplished today because she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know what to do. She feels lost without that structure.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's just the whole thing. It's like we're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this has much more application, you know, to the

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<v Speaker 1>greater world than just golf. But it's my wife and

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<v Speaker 1>I are probably polar opposites, you know. She looks at

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<v Speaker 1>the way I do think. She's like, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's how you wash something, and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the way I've figured out it works for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's like very plan list driven and it drives

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<v Speaker 1>her insane that I like, don't I kind of approach

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<v Speaker 1>every day and I'm like, well this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see where the day goes and She's like, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you not know what you're working on from ninth

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<v Speaker 1>to nine thirty. I'm like, I because it depends on

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<v Speaker 1>what comes up, you know, I want and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that this obviously has a paramount thing for somebody that's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be the best golfer they could be. But

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<v Speaker 1>also there's a lot of real life applications for this

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<v Speaker 1>and understanding because golf is in a sense a microcosm

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<v Speaker 1>of life. Like how you overcome different struggles on the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course and how you get through those is like

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<v Speaker 1>there's just like life. You know, you can always tell

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<v Speaker 1>how somebody is in life when you play golf with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's it's funny too because my wife is the

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<v Speaker 2>exact opposite of me, and I've come across that quite

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<v Speaker 2>a bit. It's just checks and balances. But no, you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know the thing is is it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>the stressors and doing things like people, there's learned and

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.680
<v Speaker 2>natural behavior, like people can learn to do things every

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<v Speaker 2>one of these facets, Like we do a little of both,

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<v Speaker 2>so we always have a little bit of extra very

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of introverted. It's like being right handed

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<v Speaker 2>left hand like there's a dominant and a non dominant

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<v Speaker 2>for people, and when we use those non dominant essentially,

0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:19.119
<v Speaker 2>it makes the brain overactive and becomes a stressor. So

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<v Speaker 2>like some people are stressed by the future, some people

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<v Speaker 2>are stressed by the past.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. They draw in past.

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<v Speaker 2>Experiences and that freaks them out, like, oh, this happened before,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is going to happen again, you know. Where

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<v Speaker 2>some people are just like they can't see out in

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<v Speaker 2>the future too much without having a plan, because the

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.919
<v Speaker 2>future will become doom and gloom if they don't have their.

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<v Speaker 3>Steps, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So tie that back into golf, like a sensor for example,

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<v Speaker 2>if they don't have like you know, if my setup

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:43.400
<v Speaker 2>is good and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit the spot in my takeaway, the ball will go there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they operate really well, and that if they don't

0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 2>have that and they start thinking about the bunker and

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 2>all the other stuff, it puts them into a big

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.720
<v Speaker 2>time stress mode and they can't really perform their best.

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<v Speaker 3>We're an intuitive you.

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<v Speaker 2>Take them away from just shapes and pictures and how

0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:02.879
<v Speaker 2>they can get the ball there and their creativity, you know,

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:04.920
<v Speaker 2>and then you start getting into the parts and pieces

0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:08.200
<v Speaker 2>they're swaying, You're just they start to fluster, they start

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:09.520
<v Speaker 2>questioning everything, is this right?

0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Is this right?

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<v Speaker 2>And they lose their gift of the future. Like in tune,

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like you and I when we have an idea,

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<v Speaker 2>like we always see the end goal first, like always,

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<v Speaker 2>like if I have a plan, like when you saw

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<v Speaker 2>the Friday Egg, like you were like, dude, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where I see this thing going, and you just then

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, all right, I'll figure it out from there.

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<v Speaker 3>Like censors, our counterparts can't think like that at all.

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 2>They need to know, well, look if I create this

0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 2>blog and then I create this and then I create that,

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.359
<v Speaker 2>it might get to hear and they're they're very linear thinkers,

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 2>where we're very out of the box kind of thinkers.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously this has a huge impact on your instructor,

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>your caddy relationship. How would you say it impacts you

0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 1>on the golf course and how you should think about,

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting through hold the hole, and how you

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>think about, you know, just approaching playing golf.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean the.

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<v Speaker 2>Idea is, you know, we class the zone as an

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 2>absence of stress because it really is, like anytime anybody's

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 2>just went lights out, usually most people have no clue

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 2>why they do it. They'll just randomly go crazy, like

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Chappell shot fifty nine in between a seventy one

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 2>and seventy two, seventy four last year, just one random

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:19.120
<v Speaker 2>fifty nine, right, So people don't really understand how they

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 2>just go lights out one day and the next day

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 2>is something totally different. But what they will always say

0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 2>is that was easy. That just felt so easy, because

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 2>essentially that's what it is, the lack of stress, the

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.640
<v Speaker 2>lack of you know, mental effort that they're putting in,

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 2>but they just don't know how they're getting there. So

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<v Speaker 2>our goal is to get into that optimal state of mind,

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and using these facets help us do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So, you know, take us in the NFP.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're standing behind the ball, first thing I'm doing

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>is I'm talking on my shot. I'm getting clarity of

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 2>where I want the ball to go. That's already making

0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>my brain like light up and become active and positive.

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 2>And then from there I'm rehearsing in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>I feel the shape of the shot. So it's all

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<v Speaker 2>about what's the ball flight doing, where's it taken off,

0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and how's it going? And then from there when I

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 2>walk in. You know, there's body language some other things

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:05.719
<v Speaker 2>that go in there, and some breathing techniques which whatever,

0:25:05.760 --> 0:25:08.159
<v Speaker 2>but essentially again keeping my eyes on the target and

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 2>then I'm just trying to basically hit a fade like literally,

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 2>that's it, you know, Dustin Johnson, just make sure you

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>fade it.

0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's how an E NFP would really operate very well,

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>is just going through those meticulous steps that fit their personality.

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>A sensor like an IS type, like an ICTJ was

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<v Speaker 2>the complete opposite of us, would go through those zones

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 2>very different, like they would be internalizing here's my start

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 2>line and then rehearsing very meticulously of moving their slaying

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 2>that they know if I hit this, I will you know,

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 2>hit my spot. So like Austin Trussel is a perfect example.

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:42.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, to John Caddy's fort A on the corn

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Ferry tour and he's we call him the precision machine.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so he has a list of facts of

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.920
<v Speaker 2>details he takes in to make the decisions on a shot.

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:52.440
<v Speaker 3>It's crazy how much he takes.

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.239
<v Speaker 2>In and then he basically John just reminds him all

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:56.679
<v Speaker 2>the time, like, you know, can you get to your

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 2>move at the top. I'm pretty sure he just feels

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.320
<v Speaker 2>like he sets the top and then hits it and

0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 2>that's it, like that's his task. It's nothing about the target.

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 2>It's purely can you hit that spot at the top,

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.239
<v Speaker 2>like it's his job. And he knows if I do

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 2>that and I hit it over my little intermediate divot,

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:12.760
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be money with this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously we've talked about a few applications. How

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>can people find out more about that? You know, obviously

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>your website mentalgolf type dot com. They can do the

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>free test which is going to give them their personality

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.520
<v Speaker 1>type now takes ten minutes we'll say for a normal

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 1>person or less. Yeah, you get your your results. How

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>do you kind of dive in and learn more about

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff?

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so there's tiers.

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 2>So we have we have a free portal that everybody

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 2>gets kind of access to when they start, and we

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.719
<v Speaker 2>got a couple just intro lessons in there, things they

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:50.840
<v Speaker 2>can use, so just even how to use your extrovert

0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 2>introvert qualities. We got a few things about how to

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 2>develop a shot process on there. You know what that

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:59.640
<v Speaker 2>really looks like and you know, for record. I hate, hate,

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 2>hate the word pre shot routine because I think it's damaging,

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>like mindlessly doing two pract swings and walking in a

0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>certain way. It doesn't really do much, but like how

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>we think through these zones is important. So we have

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>some of that in our free stuff, and then we

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>have our you know, our mental golf type level win

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Master training, which teaches everybody these facets exactly how they apply,

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 2>how to use them, how to basically unrecognize stress, which

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 2>is again the biggest one. So quick example, extrovert, you,

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 2>here's a perfect story. Right the bus at the at

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<v Speaker 2>the US midam, so you're struggling, extroverts start to get quiet,

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 2>like you wouldn't say you weren't saying a word to

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>me for two holes. You hook one to a point

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 2>where a bus tries to pick us up because we're

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.199
<v Speaker 2>so far off the hole where we can laugh and

0:27:43.240 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 2>start talking about it. And it was basically this diffuser,

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>right like you started to become external and laugh and

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. And then you put the next one

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<v Speaker 2>to like two feet.

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 3>Or whatever it was.

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 2>But that's a great example, right, like you know, using

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>that introvert equality. You know something extroverts do, They get

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 2>very quiet and very pulled in and like don't talk

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.479
<v Speaker 2>to me type thing when they're upset about stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're just you know, now you're opening you know,

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>dark skeletons as I'm thinking about in my past, you

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>know life, and I think whenever things go wrong, that's

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>generally what happens.

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Right. But so so we have that program.

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:20.120
<v Speaker 2>We have you know, online courses, So we have one

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>that just teaches people how to go through their shot

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.919
<v Speaker 2>process with their personality type. We have a program that

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>teaches people exactly how to practice and it's like a

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.880
<v Speaker 2>structure that we put together and something I've actually been

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 2>developing for a long long time with.

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Help of other sports coaches.

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've actually worked with this Navy Seal a

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>little bit on just how they trained and just started

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 2>to put together structure of what I really feel is

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the best practice structures out there, and we

0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>teach people how to do that, how to set up

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>their practices to really maximize it using their personality as well.

0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 3>So we have those out. We have something coming very soon.

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>We call it the Confidence Code, which is kind of

0:28:55.640 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 2>something we're going to do where we send people a

0:28:58.200 --> 0:28:59.959
<v Speaker 2>weekly like basically done for you.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Plan like follow these steps to build your confidence.

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like a little practice plan how to use a

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 2>faster their personality and just literally follow this and your

0:29:08.320 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 2>confidence is going to go crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool. I mean, it'll help you in more ways

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.719
<v Speaker 1>than golf. It's so true. And like personality, Understanding your

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 1>personality is going to help you more than golf. And

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>whenever your rest of your life is better, you usually

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>are playing better golf too. That's another thing.

0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll make a note on that too.

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>Is Like you know, I've had some conversations where people

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 2>try to kind of debunk these personality things. I mean,

0:29:33.040 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason why so many people use them. And

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>the reason people try to debunk them is because people

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:40.719
<v Speaker 2>typically answer in a way they were taught to do things,

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>so it might not fit like what they truly are,

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 2>because they're afraid to answer like they want answer. Like

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 2>in the corporate world, of course, everybody's going to answer

0:29:47.840 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 2>as a judger, like they're on time and structure and stuff.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 2>In golf, like a lot of people are gonna like

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>say I'm a censor because you know they were trained mechanically.

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 3>You know that might not be the right thing. For them.

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 2>So the important thing is just to go, Look, this

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>is who I am. It's not a good or a

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>bad thing. This is just how I can use some

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>things and really go. But when I've had one on

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 2>one conversations or even conversations with college teams and I

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>can kind of basically predict or call out people what

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 2>they do when they're struggling, it kind of becomes spooky.

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 2>It's so predictable when I'm saying, hey, like, actually, I'm

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 2>sure you're getting quiet, but like if it's one of us,

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, we're getting quiet and we're getting mechanical. You know,

0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>nfp's are gett quiet, they're getting mechanical, and we start

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>overthinking every shot boom.

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's when we're at.

0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Our worst, right Yeah, That's that's where I am right

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>now and my absolute worst.

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 3>But when we're at our best, we just see our

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.200
<v Speaker 3>target hit it. I mean we can't even explain it.

0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I remember having rounds when like I remember this

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 2>one tournament round I've never felt ever since, but like

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I almost could see a path to the to the whole.

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 3>I had like twenty three putts.

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>I made every single thing I looked at that day

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and I literally felt like I could walk up slap

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>it in one hand.

0:30:56.320 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 3>And it was going in. It was this feeling. I

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 3>can't explain it.

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>But that was literally me just looking at where the

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 2>ball is going to go and hitting it. And when

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I started to get into more of set up in

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 2>my putting and how the stroke is moving and all

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. As I became a teacher, I couldn't putt

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>save my life. Man, I couldn't make a four foot

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 2>or for anything.

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been there. I know exactly what your time. I've

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>seen the line like this is weird. It's the weirdest

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>thing in the world. And then when you don't see it,

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you always are like where is it? You know right,

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>it's uh And I think, like further on this, like

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<v Speaker 1>when I did this personality test in my last job,

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, before I started the Fried Egg, my boss

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<v Speaker 1>and I were complete opposites at the ends of the spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>and it illuminated it was like, oh, this is why

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<v Speaker 1>we we butt heads on like all these different things,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm a very idea orented person. That's why she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't like a lot of my ideas because you know

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't been proven out and it's just an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And and uh, I think that's the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>of this is if you're working on the game, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, trying to get your hit into the game,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're you know, kid's a junior player, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, an amateur player and you're working with

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<v Speaker 1>a coach, or you're a pro, there are all these

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<v Speaker 1>applications because things that you're doing and people you're working

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<v Speaker 1>with might not know that naturally you're working against each other.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's that's well put.

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know how much I can

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<v Speaker 2>put any better than that, But that's you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I'll always kind of credit back to John Weir,

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<v Speaker 2>who was the one that introduced me all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think what he found was absolute magic.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's kind of one of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Where it's like almost, did we just keep it to

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves and just be a unique type of coach and

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<v Speaker 2>but we can't, you know. I mean, it's like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is something I feel everybody really needs to understand because

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<v Speaker 2>I know how it's how much has changed what I do.

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<v Speaker 3>And how much it can help people, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Just seeing some people get over some struggles just using

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<v Speaker 2>certain things. Like I had one corn fairy guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if he wants to use his name, so

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<v Speaker 2>I won't, but you know, he had a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>good weeks and he just emailed us and said, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe you said it's okay not to talk like

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<v Speaker 2>He's like that is so relieving.

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<v Speaker 3>He's an introvert.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I was always out there trying to be

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<v Speaker 2>social cause I thought everyone thinks I'm a dick if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking to him. And he's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just I just did what you said. I got

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<v Speaker 2>within you know, twenty yards of my ball and just

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<v Speaker 2>shut up. I wasn't talking to my caddie. We just

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<v Speaker 2>did basic decision making. And you know, I haven't felt

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<v Speaker 2>that good playing in a long time. So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just crazy how something so little like that can

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<v Speaker 2>make such a big difference.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's still just fascinating to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So how can people find you, get a hold of you?

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<v Speaker 2>They can follow us on Instagram, you know, we just

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<v Speaker 2>have a newer account or post and stuff there, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're trying to grow that and that's mainly where we

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<v Speaker 2>post social media content Instagram, not really on a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other stuff. I think Twitter is pretty evil at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, so I'm just staying off of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I've seen some of your battles, so dark plass.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing my battles mostly come with people that are

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite type of uh person.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to mentioned that, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to give anybody any any name credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah so but yeah, so that, and then if anybody

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<v Speaker 2>wants to reach me directly, it's just my first name.

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<v Speaker 3>Kyle k I E l at mentalgolf type dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>I do help individuals at this mainly the higher level

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<v Speaker 2>players though, Kyle's players, people working you know, up to

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<v Speaker 2>the corn ferries stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Well, thanks for coming on, Kyle, and I hope

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