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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Justin Tucker, the Ravens Kicker, joins us on

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Speaker 1: the program. Did you sleep last night? Justin? It took

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Speaker 1: a while to let the adrenaline subside, but I was

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Speaker 1: way to school. So, uh, you know, it's it's all

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Speaker 1: good stuff, though, all good. What are you thinking on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines. I'm just hoping to get the opportunity more

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Speaker 1: than anything. And then the fact that we did and

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Speaker 1: then we're able to come through. Um, you know all

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that goes with that that kick at

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Speaker 1: the end of the game. I mean, you just, first

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Speaker 1: and foremost you want to you know, make the kick

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Speaker 1: and win the game. And then you know, as we

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Speaker 1: were lining it up, I kind of realized that we

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Speaker 1: have a chance to make history right here. This could

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Speaker 1: be pretty special. But you know, all that stuff going

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Speaker 1: all the thoughts, all the emotions, and I've I've said this,

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Speaker 1: I've said I know, we've talked about this before, Dan, Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I've I've said it before that, you know,

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Speaker 1: your feelings and those moments don't matter. What matters is executing.

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Speaker 1: What's what matters is seeing Nick Moore throw go back

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Speaker 1: a perfect strike with the snap for twelve o'clock places

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Speaker 1: that Sam can just spot quickly. Uh. You know what

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Speaker 1: matters is uh the other uh eight guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: the first place. And then just trusting my technique. And

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Speaker 1: when you're that far away, you got to, you know,

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Speaker 1: both trust the technique and also sacrifice some of it

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Speaker 1: to just power the ball. Uh, you know, from from

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Speaker 1: you know, thinking about the action, not the consequence. And

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Speaker 1: then when it's all said and done, then you can

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Speaker 1: let your feelings and your emotions take over and enjoy

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Speaker 1: the moment and celebrate with your teammates and know that

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Speaker 1: what just happened was you know, was it was was special,

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Speaker 1: It was it was amazing to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Did you hear the ball hit the crossbar? I did

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Speaker 1: it sounded uh? Uh? It it sounded like what I

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Speaker 1: feel like my stomach was doing just uh just just

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking that uh, I just didn't have enough to

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Speaker 1: To have that one yesterday afternoon, Uh, work in our

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Speaker 1: favor is definitely a good feeling. Where's the football? It's

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Speaker 1: this get on this zoom call with you, but it's

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Speaker 1: just it's upstairs right next to my backpack. I was

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Speaker 1: holding onto that thing from the moment we uh you know,

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Speaker 1: from the moment we kicked the ball in one of

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Speaker 1: game days. Um. But Avon is always down there, uh

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Speaker 1: And he didn't even let it hit the ground, balanced

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Speaker 1: and then I said yesterday as well, Uh, Yancy, one

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Speaker 1: And I'm having a tough time parting ways with any

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Speaker 1: holding onto the ball. I feel like I really want

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Speaker 1: and I tend to try to make my my cleats

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Speaker 1: if I can get those guys to last met like

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Speaker 1: I don't think I quite have seventy one in me today.

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Speaker 1: But that's just the type of mentality that you have

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Speaker 1: congrats sir, Justin, and good luck against the Broncos. I

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Speaker 1: think you could probably do seventy one in Denver. I

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Speaker 1: guess we'll have to see. That's why I'm not going

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Speaker 1: they might have some more. They might have some more. Yeah, Hey, congrats,

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Speaker 1: all right, thanks Dan. Be sure to catch the live

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Speaker 1: How big was the Rams win yesterday? Mojoe oh Man?

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Speaker 1: First of all, Dan, it's so glad to be back.

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Speaker 1: Has been too long. You know, it's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: Our relationship just like we never talked and then once

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Speaker 1: Stafford looks really good. Deshan Jackson got into the fold,

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Speaker 1: whereas a defender, you have to be ready for that

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Speaker 1: long ball and you got to try to react to

427
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Speaker 1: that back shoulder throw. Yeah, but how about I double

428
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Speaker 1: cover Davante Adams right, anybody else can beat me if

429
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Speaker 1: they do, congratulations. I can't let your best player beat me. Yeah,

430
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: but DeVante is so smart. Davante is in the slot,

431
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Speaker 1: Devant's in short motions. He's a single receiver on a

432
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 1: three by one formation. He's so good in that system

433
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: and knows that system so well that Lafleur does a

434
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: great job of moving him around where you can't always

435
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Speaker 1: double a guy. Now, if a guy's playing only backside

436
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Speaker 1: or weekside receiver, you can double him because you know

437
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 1: where he's going to be. You don't know where DeVante

438
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Speaker 1: is going. Do you know Rogers at all? Yes? How

439
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Speaker 1: what can you tell us? How would you describe him

440
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Speaker 1: as just a guy as a dude? Yeah? Well no,

441
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Speaker 1: I mean you're watching him as a quarterback to a quarterback, like,

442
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 1: what is it that makes him so special? And then

443
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about him off the field. Oh,

444
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: I think he's He's the worst thing for a young

445
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Speaker 1: quarterback like Mac Jones or some of these guys that

446
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: come into the league because you can't watch him, he

447
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: will kill your confidence. You will watch him on film

448
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: and see him do things and go, man, I know

449
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Speaker 1: I can't do that. Do I have to be able

450
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Speaker 1: to do that and throw that ball to be successful

451
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Speaker 1: in this league. So the first thing I do with

452
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Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks that say watch I'll watch as much

453
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Speaker 1: film as you can do not watch any Green Bay film.

454
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Speaker 1: That's awesome. I've never heard that analysis because everybody wants

455
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: to try to replate you know the best, and you

456
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 1: would just say, look, remove that guy, and then you

457
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: can try to try to emulate some of these other guys.

458
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: Watch as much film as you can. There's you shouldn't

459
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: be watching ESPN or the Dan Patrick Show. You should

460
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: be watching film and film and film. Just don't ever

461
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: watch Green Bay film, especially from a fundamental and technique standpoint.

462
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he does so many things your coach not

463
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 1: to do as a young kid, as far as you know,

464
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,959
Speaker 1: stepping into throws, being on balance, stand on platform. He

465
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: throws so many balls off his back foot that he

466
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: just flicks, and it's just it's a confidence killer for

467
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback. What's he like off the field. He's awesome.

468
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Speaker 1: I love him. I played golf with him a bunch.

469
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Speaker 1: I've been around him a bunch. He's very guarded. He

470
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Speaker 1: needs to be very guarded. He's one of the most

471
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Speaker 1: polarizing figures and probably all of sports. But to people

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Speaker 1: that call him friends, everybody loves him. Yeah. I always

473
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Speaker 1: tell people that, you know, I played golf with him

474
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Speaker 1: a couple of times and have been around him, and

475
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Speaker 1: I've I've felt the sense of humor that he has,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, he can jab you, and you know

477
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Speaker 1: it's it's like a boxer. He'll kind of hit and

478
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Speaker 1: then he'll back up a little bit, you know. And

479
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: but he's not for everybody. Would you say that that's true? Yeah,

480
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Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, he's extremely guarded. So if

481
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Speaker 1: you're if you're on the outside, you're on the outside.

482
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: But he's funny, he's quick witted. He's got way more

483
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: interest than just football or sports. He's into a lot

484
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: of different things. But like I said, I mean, if so,

485
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: the guys that know him and guys that have been

486
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: close and spent time with them, I don't know anybody

487
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Speaker 1: that doesn't love him. He's Carson Palmer joining us on

488
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Speaker 1: the program, former NFL quarterback Heisman Trophy winner at USC

489
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Speaker 1: I was wondering about Sean mcvay's role now with Matthew

490
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Speaker 1: Stafford and how that's different for a head coach during

491
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Speaker 1: a game with Stafford as opposed to Jared Golf. I

492
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Speaker 1: really don't think it's that that, you know, that far off.

493
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Speaker 1: You know, they've come out and been so explosive and

494
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: really just pretty. I mean, everything they do it's pretty

495
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: to watch. But play calling, though Carson does, it felt

496
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: like he was always in Jared Goff's ear or we

497
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: were given that impression. I don't think so. I think

498
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: you saw that early with Jared Goff because those were

499
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Speaker 1: really Jared Goff's first couple of years in the league.

500
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Speaker 1: Matt's got a lot more years. You know. I think

501
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: Matt moves a little better than Jared, but they're really

502
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: similar quote, you know, style quarterbacks. I thought, you know,

503
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: Jared got a bad rap, but I thought Jared could

504
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Speaker 1: flat out spin it. I mean, he really threw the

505
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: ball well. Stafford throws a little bit better. Stafford has

506
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Speaker 1: way more experience. He's been in a lot of you know,

507
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: a lot more seasons, a lot more games. But at

508
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Stafford's older. You know, I

509
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: think Goff's got a longer runway. He's going to probably

510
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Speaker 1: play three, four or five more years after Stafford retires.

511
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Speaker 1: And that was a lot to give up for a

512
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: very similar style, skill set player. But I think you're

513
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: seeing it with Matt. I mean, Matt moves a little

514
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Speaker 1: bit better, he's a little bit quicker, he does a

515
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Speaker 1: better job outside the pocket than Jared did. But still,

516
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like I said, I thought Jared

517
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Speaker 1: got a bad rap and took a lot of heat

518
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: for what went down in LA But I think Jared

519
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: can flat throw it. Would you rather face Miles Garrett

520
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: or Aaron Donald. I would rather face Miles Garrett because

521
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: at least you can step up in the pocket when

522
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: he wins on the outside rush. But I played against

523
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Speaker 1: Ared twice a year for a long time when I

524
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Speaker 1: was in Arizona, and he reeks Havoc inside the pocket,

525
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: and I thought that was kind of a you know that,

526
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Speaker 1: that's the thing that you've seen Brady struggle with. I

527
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Speaker 1: was I was thinking the Rams were gonna end up

528
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: winning yesterday because when Brady's had a difficult time, you know,

529
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Speaker 1: back to the Super Bowls against the Giants and some

530
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: of the situations he's been in when he doesn't have

531
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Speaker 1: a pocket to step up into. He's not going to

532
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Speaker 1: beat you with his legs, everybody knows that. But when

533
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Speaker 1: he can't step up and accurately deliver the ball because

534
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: he's stepping into throws and transferring his weight into throws,

535
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Speaker 1: he's going to have a tough time beating you like

536
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Speaker 1: he did yesterday against the Rams. Yeah, I agree with

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Speaker 1: you that Aaron Donald is so valuable just from that

538
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: perspective of they line him up at different places, but

539
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,360
Speaker 1: that pressure up the middle, there aren't many guys who

540
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: can do it. They can give you pressure, but they

541
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: can't get to the quarterback, like Hellodi Nada and some

542
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: of those guys like they put pressure, but they're not

543
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: necessarily getting to you. Aaron Donald is a unicorn. Did

544
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: you face anybody was similar to Aaron Donald aside from

545
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald? No, But by first I think it was

546
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: one of our first games in Arizona back when the

547
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: Rams were in Saint Louis. We were I think it

548
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: was a division clinching game in Saint Louis. It was

549
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: really odd. The stadium was quiet, there was nobody there.

550
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: There was really bad lighting in that stadium. And I

551
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: got back to the huddle and one of my good buddies,

552
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: Liles center line, was the center and Aaron had just

553
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: come on the scene. He was just drafted, and I

554
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: think we're up a couple of scores. It's the end

555
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: of the fourth fourth quarter, and we had heard of this,

556
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: this Aaron Donald guy, but he wasn't a top two

557
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: or three pick, you know, so there wasn't a lot

558
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: of film on him. There wasn't a lot of talk

559
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: about him. But I got back in the huddle and

560
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: I started calling play and Lyle looked up to me

561
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: and said, don't call it. Don't call it. I'm like,

562
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: why he goes? I can't even see the guy, let

563
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: alone block him, Like, who are you talking about? Ninety

564
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: nine ninety nine? Don't call that inside zone play? I

565
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 1: can't block him. And that was my first, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Aaron's welcome to the moment, you know, welcome to the

567
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Speaker 1: NFL moment. Because then I went back and watched the

568
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: film and we didn't hardly block him at all. And

569
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Speaker 1: you know, nothing's changed since that, you know, game six seven,

570
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: eight years ago. Okay, so how do you react when

571
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Speaker 1: your center says, don't call that. I can't block the guy.

572
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: I called an outside screen. I changed the play. Did

573
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: did Donald get you that game? He got me plenty

574
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: times that game. He's a problem. I mean, he is

575
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: an absolute problem. And now that was back before everybody knew,

576
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, how good he was. That was back when

577
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: he was getting a lot of one on one single blocks.

578
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: Now entire game plans are built around him, so he's

579
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: hardly one on one with anybody. Can you hear an

580
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: outside rusher going by you. No, it's something you just sense.

581
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of a sixth sense thing. You've

582
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: been in that moment so many times and practice that

583
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: moment so many times. You know it's so loud in there,

584
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: and then you know you've probably got a coach still,

585
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, yelling something in your ear, and all that's

586
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: going on around you. You just got to feel it

587
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: and sense it. Who's the best outside guy you faced? Man?

588
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: When I was young and came in the league, straight

589
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: hand was strayhand was a problem. I mean, he was

590
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: so big, he was so physical and long. And that's

591
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: the thing about straight Hand too, is he would bull

592
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: rush you from the outside and he had Justin Tuck

593
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: and some other guys inside of him, so he was

594
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: one on one and he wouldn't necessarily beat you with

595
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: speed around the pocket, but he would collapse the tackle

596
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: into your lap, so kind of like Aaron Donald, he

597
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: would make he would shrink the size of the pocket

598
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: just with a bull rush on the outside edge. What

599
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: do you see when you see Justin Herbert? You know,

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00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: I watched the Ram game or the Charger game, and

601
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: I also watched who was the other game? Right before him.

602
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Oh it was. It was the Justin Fields game in Chicago,

603
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: and the two differences I noticed, And aside from Justin

604
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: Herbert being a physical specimen, I mean, he is just bigger,

605
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 1: quicker and has an absolute hose, But the way they

606
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: protect him with the play calling was so different than

607
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: what was going on in Chicago. You very rarely saw

608
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert with the Chargers dropped back in a seven

609
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: step drop. Everything was off the run. If they were

610
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: taking a long deep drop, they were doing six and

611
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: seven man protections off of play action. And then they

612
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: got the ball out really really quick when they were

613
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: spreading people out. The ball wasn't in his hands past

614
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: the three step drop. Before you knew it, he had

615
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: the ball and shotgun boom balls out. Then you go

616
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: and you go and watch Justin Fields in that Chicago game,

617
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: and they didn't do anything to protect him. So you know,

618
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: when I'm watching Justin Herbert play, I'm seeing a really

619
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: really good job. And he's not even that young anymore.

620
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Justin Fields is young. Justin Fields is a

621
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: game one. Herbert's in year two, and they're still doing

622
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: a really good job in LA at protecting him. Lots

623
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: of long play action, they're running the ball effectively, they're

624
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: throwing screens, and then they're getting in the quick game

625
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: and getting the ball out of his hands. So I

626
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: really like the way they're moving the pocket and adjusting

627
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: the game plan to protect Justin Herbert and vice versa.

628
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't like what they're doing in Chicago with Justin Fields.

629
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know when he's dropping back by formation alone,

630
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: so you're seeing defensive line pin their ears back and

631
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: come after him. Okay, but Carson, you're saying this, You're

632
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: not even there. It feels like, how does Matt naggy?

633
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: It felt like it was irresponsible what the Bears did

634
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: to Justin Fields. Yeah. At the same time, though, I

635
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: will say Justin Fields and Chicago Bears don't have anybody

636
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: that can win one on one outside and so if

637
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: you put if you put Andy Dalton in that same situation,

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Speaker 1: you don't have the ability for Andy Dalton to make

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Speaker 1: something out of nothing like Justin Fields can. So they're

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Speaker 1: in a tough spot in Chicago because they just don't

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Speaker 1: have any winners on the outside. They don't have a

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Speaker 1: true number one receiver that can just flat out win

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Speaker 1: for you. So they got to get creative, and then

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Speaker 1: they also have to account for the quarterback making something

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Speaker 1: out of nothing three four five third downs a game

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Speaker 1: where they can do it with their legs, and Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton doesn't have that ability, but justin Fields gives them

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Speaker 1: that ability. Are you all in on the Raiders? I

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Speaker 1: like them. I'll tell you what I like. I like

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Speaker 1: two things. I'm not all in on the Raiders until

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Speaker 1: they get to week fifteen, sixteen seventeen. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what I like though. I really like that defensive front.

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Speaker 1: That defensive front is stout. That defensive front can get

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Speaker 1: after the passer a little bit. They don't have a

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Speaker 1: true pass rusher. They got rid of Khalil mac obviously,

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Speaker 1: but they got a lot of guys. They put tune

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Speaker 1: in a lot of salty defensive linemen so they can

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Speaker 1: stop the path, they can stop the run, they can

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Speaker 1: get after the passer. But the other thing I really

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Speaker 1: like about them is Derek Carr is playing with a

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Speaker 1: true toughness and a true grit that I really hadn't

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Speaker 1: seen it. I don't think I don't think Gruden had

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Speaker 1: seen it before. But you watch these last two three

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Speaker 1: weeks of watching him play he's stepping into throws, taking

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Speaker 1: one in the face, he's moving around the pocket late.

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Speaker 1: He's not giving up and throwing the ball away. He's

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Speaker 1: not getting in two minute situations and throwing the quick

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Speaker 1: drag to get the ball out of bounds. All the

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Speaker 1: time he's holding the ball in the pocket, he's taking

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Speaker 1: hits and he's delivering it accurately down the field. And

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Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that out of Derek car yet. So

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Speaker 1: I'm really I'm really surprised and proud of the way

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Speaker 1: he stepped in the pocket and played with a lot

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Speaker 1: of grit. You still have your Raiders jersey? I do not.

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Speaker 1: I do not have a Raiders jersey. My kids do.

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Speaker 1: My kids still wear a number three Raiders jersey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you don't have your Raider I don't think. Do

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Speaker 1: you have that? No? No, he only gave me. You know.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any memorabilia up in your house? Uh? No,

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Speaker 1: I've got pictures of my kids. I've got kids toys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no mem no jerseys, no jerseys up, No jerseys, no jerseys. Damn.

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Speaker 1: So disappointing. Um No, it's just surprising. I guess. So

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Speaker 1: I didn't know if you had a room, and you know,

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Speaker 1: like your how your kids are old enough to know

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Speaker 1: that dad played in the NFL. But you don't think

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Speaker 1: you don't take a trip. You don't strike me as

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Speaker 1: taking a trip down memory lane. We don't. We don't

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Speaker 1: take a lot of trips to memory lane. But let

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Speaker 1: me ask you, guys, how many bobbleheads do you have

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Speaker 1: of yourself in your office? Right there? A few of them? Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love me, Carson, I mean I love taking a

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Speaker 1: trip down memory lane. Let me tell you about the

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Speaker 1: days at Sports Center, you know, like yeah, So, well,

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Speaker 1: if you have any jerseys that you don't want up

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Speaker 1: but you want me to put them up in the

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Speaker 1: man Cave, then I'll be more than happy to. I

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Speaker 1: got Barry Sanders there, Dan Marino there, far there, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady there, Reggie Miller, Adam Sandler from The Longest Yarn.

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Speaker 1: So there's all this run around and all you had

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Speaker 1: to do is ask me for a jersey. You don't

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Speaker 1: have to go around the room, my bad. I just asked. Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you got a jersey and you want to donate

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Speaker 1: it to the Main Cave, love to send your jersey,

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Speaker 1: be great, alright, tell Fritz, it's coming on like you

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Speaker 1: know what. I'll get the FedEx number and send it

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Speaker 1: to there. You go, all right, thank you. Hey, great

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Speaker 1: to talk to you, buddy. Thanks Dan,