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Speaker 1: of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale Lelly here with Matt Williamson. This is

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Speaker 1: to drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Bucky Brooks on

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. Bucky, former NFL scout, has his mock

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Speaker 1: and I thought we would take a look at that

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Speaker 1: and see what Bucky now has. When did that post

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Speaker 1: that posted on March twenty nine, which would have been yesterday,

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Speaker 1: So this was this was pretty fresh. Nice, let's go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's let's roll into what Bucky thinks will happen in

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Speaker 1: the draft. He has a side note yourself might pursued it.

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Speaker 1: And I also all just put out our mock draft,

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Speaker 1: so you can check that out on that will come

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Speaker 1: out on the Friday April that's April Fool's Day. And well,

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Speaker 1: my draft look pretty fools. Yeah. Uh, he has Aidan

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Speaker 1: At three, he has the Texans taking Cavon thibodeaute edge

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Speaker 1: they run up to get their Armstead replacement. Yeah. At nineteen,

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