1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a homegrown that knows a little bit about everything 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: and everybody. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right, la Hey, y'all, 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: what's up. 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: It's Lauren Rosa and this is the latest with Lauren 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: le Rosa. This is your deadly take on all things 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the conversations that 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: shake the room. 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: Baby. Now let's get into checking in behind the scenes 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: the grind. It is Monday. It is Monday. 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: This is actually the week that Fashion Week in New 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: York starts. So yeah, all the fashion and all of 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: the things will be starting soon this week. I believe 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: it's like Wednesday, where a lot of the shows and 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: things like that happen. 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly where I will be and what 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: I'll be doing. 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm still waiting on some RSVPs, but I am preparing. 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: We just dropped new merch for Broncar Grinding, what you 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: guys know is my medium production company. 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We have 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: the fact black women are fing gorgeous the originals, which 30 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: is like, you know, if you just want your plane, 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: go to everyday tea, but then we have a puff 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: paint more I would say artsier version of that fact 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: black women are fn gorgeous tea at brongargrinded dot com 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: as well. 35 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna take a look run on overever right now, y'all, 36 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: if you are. 37 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: Listening to this podcast episode, I want to give you 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: a little nugget. If you're listening to this podcast episode, 39 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: you can use the Cold Latest. 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: At checkout and receive ten percent off of your purchase. 41 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: And I'm only giving that to y'all because y'all are 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: here and you're listening to the podcast, So go on. 43 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: So that's what my days have been giving these last 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: like this last week. I've been preparing for this week 45 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: because I know that dropping new merch is tedious. Still 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: staying up to date with work in the news and 47 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: all the things are tedious, but also I gotta get 48 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: y'all outside. 49 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: We gotta get to fashion, We've got to get some interviews, 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: we gotta get some things going. 51 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: So you will be hearing a lot of that on 52 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: the podcast this week, prayerfully as we are rgped and 53 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: confirmed for various events. Now getting on into the latest 54 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: speaking of you know, just being outside and things and events, 55 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: things that are happening. 56 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: Sarry Shepherd, we talked about Shery Shepherd's show and the 57 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: fact that it was announced that it was canceled after 58 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: four seasons. Now at the same time, Kelly Clarkson, who. 59 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, has been on air longer than Sherry Shepherd, 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: she was on air for seven seasons. 61 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: It was also announced that her show will no longer 62 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: be moving forward. And in a previous episode, you guys 63 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: can go back and check that out. 64 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: I talk to you guys a bit about the fact 65 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: that Kelly Clarkson had mentioned not even mentioned, but there 66 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: were reports and it had been ruined and I'd actually 67 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: heard some time ago when Kelly Clarkson's ex husband gotten sick. 68 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: He got sick from cancer, God bless it. So he 69 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: later passed away from cancer. It was the conversation then 70 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: that Kelly Clarkson might be taking a step back from 71 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: her talk show, and we talked about this at the 72 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: time and several times because there were noticeable absences from 73 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: the show. So there were reports that like she just 74 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: didn't want to do it anymore. There are reports that 75 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: like she just wasn't happy with her situation in her show. 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: And then things came to hit the surface and the 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: conversation and what was actually confirmed when she talked about 78 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: it was the fact that because her ex husband was sick, 79 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: who you know, she shares children with, she needed to 80 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: kind of like take a step back for a bit 81 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: and focus on family, and then she returned to her show. Now, 82 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: when Kelly Clarkson's announcement was made about her show, this. 83 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: Was in a different tone. She was able to own 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: it a bit more. You know. 85 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Again, there's already been previous reporting about why she decided 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: to step back, but she was able to talk about 87 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: that as well. With Shary Shepard, it just felt like 88 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: we got a blanket variety, you know, something in the trades. 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: The trades are are the media outlets that announced like 90 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: news about. 91 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: New shows, deals and business. 92 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: Right, all we got was, Okay, the show is going 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: to be canceled because daytime talk show is going in 94 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: a different space. Cherry has been doing this for four seasons. 95 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: Here's a company that produces the show. Thank you guys 96 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: for tuning in. We'll let you know when the. 97 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Last day is. And that was it. 98 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: And I know from you know, doing our research for 99 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: another Sherry Shepherd's show. The story that we had did 100 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: because there were some conversations around Shary's ratings plumbing months ago, 101 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: and when I did some digging and talked to some 102 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: folks and you know, just wanted to get, you know, 103 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: some information that we could reference while talking about this, 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: I was told that Sherry Shepard and Timor Hall are 105 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: doing amazing in the talk show space ratings wise. So 106 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: I was very confused when I saw this news. And 107 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm still confused, to be honest, because Shery Shepherd talked 108 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: about it on her show today. She just got back 109 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: from COVID leave. And still I think that, you know, 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: there's something missing. 111 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 2: We need some more information. Let's take a listen, Michelle, 112 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: this is a. 113 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: Hard morning for all of us here, as Sherry and 114 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: I know that you have seen the news and I'm 115 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: ready to address it. Our show has not been renewed 116 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: for another season, and I want to say to y'all everybody, 117 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 3: y'all try not to paint or fall out because healthcare 118 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: is expensive and none of us have it anymore, So 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: y'all don't fall out. But I have to say, you know, 120 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: and thinking about it, I'm truly overwhelmed by the outpouring 121 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: of love that I have received from all of you, 122 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: So from the audience, to everybody on social media, to 123 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: people who stop me in the store and still talk 124 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: to me despite me not having a wig on, they 125 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: still talk to me. From the emails and the text 126 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: the messages, I feel every bit of the love that 127 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: you've been sending to me, and thank you so much. 128 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: And I mean we hear her say like, Okay, this 129 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: is gonna look different. We're going into different space, different direction. 130 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: And that has been the conversation. It's like, does the 131 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: regular everyday podcast format even make money anymore because you 132 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: need a full staff and you can do podcasts for 133 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: way less and wait, let's overhead, And honestly, you know, 134 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: it sounds to me like Sherry maybe is. 135 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: Thinking along that lane of things, but we don't know. 136 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: We didn't get. 137 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: It in that clip in her conversation this morning about 138 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: on the show. So there's a lot more questions to 139 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: be asked here and a lot more to discover. But 140 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: we finally got to hear from Sherry finally, and I thought, 141 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, of course, that is worth taking a moment for. 142 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Now. 143 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: In other news, speaking of fans and you know, conversations 144 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: and shows, Jake Cole was outside with the fans okay, 145 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: because he recently dropped what was supposed to be his 146 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: last album to fall off. So over the weekend he 147 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: was in North Carolina during a listening party and he 148 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: announced that he was going to be doing a trunk tour, 149 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: which is where he's going to be riding around. 150 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: These different places in this Santa Civic. 151 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: You know, just going back to like how it all 152 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: started for him and selling CDs out of his trunk. 153 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: Now, I'm not mad at it. 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: I felt like for the type of album that Jake 155 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Cole just delivered, where it was very much rooted in 156 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: where he was from his roots, his come up after 157 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: coming up, his ability to sustain after coming up, his 158 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: mental through different phases of the come up, and being 159 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: on top and having success but still staying planted in 160 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, his roots from the Carolinas. I'm like, this 161 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: is a time for him, Like you gotta finish what 162 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: you said, like finish as you started. I'm not mad 163 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: at that, but I did see people having conversations about 164 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: this and about the fact that they felt like he 165 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: was like placating to his fans by getting in the 166 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Honda Civic pulling up, and I'm like, what. 167 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: Else do you want from these people? 168 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: Now? 169 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: One thing that I thought was so fire because I 170 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: felt like. 171 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: Hbc used and the conversation abound HBCUs there is there 172 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: is It's so trendy now, like it is so cool 173 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, I wrapped this HBCU, I'm a 174 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: part of this Greek organization, or for artists to say, hey, 175 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm doing something with this HBCU. 176 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: But it wasn't always that way. 177 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: But I think for artists who really were out here 178 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: having to get it out the mud, not just living 179 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: off of viral moments and oshead to the viral art 180 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: TikTok artists who you know, get it off the gram 181 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: or to TikTok. But for artists like j Cole And 182 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna mention why Lea, because I remember being at 183 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: Delaware State University. I fell in love with artists who 184 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: were new first on my college campus, and I used 185 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: to I used to go down south a lot to 186 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: the Carolina to Benedict because I was dating somebody at 187 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: the time that was going to that. 188 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: School and just being in those parties and hearing the 189 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: music that they were. 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Playing at homecoming and even comparing that experience to the 191 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: homecoming that I was experiencing in Dover. More up north 192 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: where you have New York is a heavy population at 193 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: my school, New Jersey, the DMV as well Philadelphia, Like 194 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: we really got to see some of these artists in 195 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: the birth of what was their greatness because they were 196 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: outside on the campuses performing at the I remember Meek 197 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: king to Delle State, and this is early meet meal days, 198 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: and I'd already been, you know, a meat meal supporter 199 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 1: early on because I'm from Delaware, which is like fifteen 200 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: to ten minutes. Ten minutes is crazy. It's like fifteen 201 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: to twenty minutes from Delaware. So we've been supporting him 202 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: for a very long time. But I remember Meek went 203 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: to Dell State and did. Like I think it was 204 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: like a dollar concerts, two dollar concerts at the time 205 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: for the students. I also remember seeing Meek and going 206 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: back to mention in Yla on stage for the first time. 207 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: When they were with MGM and MGM MMG, And. 208 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: That was the first time that I'd ever seen Wila 209 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: like in person, and like I heard of Wala and 210 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: heard his music and Lotus flower Bomb was so big 211 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: on our campus, but I didn't really know who he was. 212 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 2: I never heard of him. 213 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: I didn't really know too much about music from you know, 214 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: DC or especially not African music at the time. And 215 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: seeing him on stage with Grass and seeing the chemistry 216 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: between him and Meek and hearing a song in person 217 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: and hearing you know, seeing like even the dancing that 218 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: people were doing, what he would perform like the people 219 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: from DC just all that culture that was like the 220 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: best way to sell an artist or product period for me. 221 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: Like I always tell people that are trying to figure 222 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: out anything in entertainment, I'm like, yo, are you connected 223 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: with the HBC using her area because they make things 224 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: hot like hbtus culturally push what's hot, just how like 225 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: we talk about like black people and black women. 226 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: How we you know, we are taste. We push taste, 227 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: We let you know what's cool. 228 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: And that's why hip hop. I don't care what i'mber 229 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: saying when people talk about what's on the chart tonight, 230 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: hip hop will always be the leading genre in the 231 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: pop And you talk about pop culture, popular culture, because 232 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: so much of what is cool, what sounds good, what 233 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: other sounds are derived off of, come from us, not 234 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: even just hip hop. 235 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: I mean us in a pop space, us in the 236 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: jazz space. Y'all know, there's a whole look, it's black history. Man, 237 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: I ain't gotta give y'all a lesson. But C NJ. 238 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: Cole on the campus of North Carolina and T I 239 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: was like, man, this is fire. It's fire to see, 240 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: and it's fire because I think it's It shows you 241 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: how connected to. 242 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: His core and to who he is he still is 243 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: in it. 244 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: Sounds like, you know, like on this project, with this 245 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: twenty nine and this thirty nine, because it's broken up 246 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: into two parts. One of the things that I think 247 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: is so dope to hear him kind of battle between 248 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: is like having success, amassing success, but still trying to 249 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: figure out who you are within all of it. And 250 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: still trying to say connected to like who you were 251 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: before all of it, even. 252 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: Though a part of you has to die and change. 253 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: What does that look like? And how does it change 254 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 2: who you're inspired by? What you're hearing them say? Why 255 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: are you hearing them say it? Like? 256 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: He talks a lot about like the older artists, and 257 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: older artists at this point me into like, I mean 258 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: some of them flat out says and some of the 259 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: music like some of them have like almost like lost 260 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: their way. And you can tell that there is such 261 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: a fight for him not to be one of those 262 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: artists who is like not understanding that the times are changing, 263 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: but not losing their way. And the best way to 264 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: do that is to put your feet on the ground 265 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: where you're from. Put you literally put your feet in 266 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: the grass back at home, and that's what he's doing. 267 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: So to see him at North Carolina ante and then 268 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: he's talking about one of the first physical copies of 269 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: a project he ever sold was on North Carolina Antie's campus. 270 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: Oh it was fired. 271 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: So I couldn't believe when I was seeing fans complaining 272 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: about the way he was going about this rollout, I'm like, yo, 273 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: if he was doing anything else right now, it would 274 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: so not be Ja Cole, like he is literally like 275 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: man of the people, like outside man of the people, 276 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: literally on the bike sometimes, especially here in New York. 277 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: I've been playing since multiple times, but I've not I 278 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 1: didn't see Jay Cole on the bike. I do know 279 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: people who've seen him ride in his bike here in 280 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: New York, though, but I've been out whether it's like 281 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: lounges or restaurants or even like spots like not like clubs, 282 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: but like kind of like lounges, places that would play 283 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: music that are like lit shout out to Saint, a 284 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: black owned location here in New York, J Cole, I've 285 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: seen him frequent that spot a lot of times, and 286 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: I think a part of it is, I mean, these 287 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: celebrities are human, dug guys. But also it's just I 288 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: think for some artists, they're art doesn't work unless their 289 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: humanity does too. 290 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: And J Cole is one of those artists. 291 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: So I have no problem with the Trump tour. I 292 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: think it's fire what he's doing. I saw a really 293 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: good first week out number for him with the Spotify streams. 294 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: Let me see if I could look it up. 295 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so chart data which is a it's an account 296 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: that I follow on X they tweet out like first 297 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: week sales and stream numbers and things like that. 298 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: So two days ago they tweeted j Cole Is. 299 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: The fall Off earned thirty five point two million streams 300 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: in its first full day of release on Spotify. This 301 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: is the second biggest album debut of twenty twenty six 302 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: so far, and I think, of course it's because the 303 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: music was so long awaited. People wanted to hear it 304 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: bad like people wanted to hear j Cole Baden and 305 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: hear how he was going out. 306 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: Now, whether you love what you hear, you feel like 307 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: you know he. 308 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: Nailed how he should bow out of this or not, 309 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: that's something y'all to argue about. Y'all can get in 310 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the streets, get into tweets and let me hear from 311 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: y'all one and the rows everywhere. Do you feel like 312 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: this was the best way for Cole to sign off 313 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: his pen with the fall Off album? But regardless of 314 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: what we think that people are listening, I mean, it's 315 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Jake Cole. I don't white people do it at the 316 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: Jake Cole and make it seem like because he decided 317 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: not to engage in a rat battle. He's not Ja Cole. 318 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: And people do it to Drake too because he didn't 319 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: win the rat battle. He's not Drake Man. These artists 320 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: have been working for a really long time and have 321 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: built a really strong cord and j Cole is is 322 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: he one of them and he knows. 323 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: Exactly how to touch his people. So please when you're 324 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: pulling up in the high to see it, get out 325 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: the way. 326 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Oh and what I loved was the natural content that 327 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: was coming out of him just being outside. 328 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: He was in a parking. 329 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: Garage just having a conversation with a fan about Dreamville 330 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: Festival and end up telling her Dreamville Festival might not 331 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: be over because we were. 332 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: That was supposed to be the last year. Last year. 333 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: That's take a lot. 334 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: So the festival was a lot. 335 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: We feel like it was a lot cod an idea, 336 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: but it was. It was a lot here around. Yeah, yeah, 337 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: we're still staying. It was just what you think about 338 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: the name though, like like we were trying to change 339 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: the name and he like call us something else or 340 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: you feel like it a hit different if it's a 341 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: different name. Do you feel it is all right? 342 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm Laura Rosa and this has been another episode of 343 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: the Latest with Laura La Rosa. 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