1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: This is the Action Network podcast. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: So you can hear the shuttle's for the crowd. 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: We have a big chance, a big chance to make 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: it a lot question the big Bucks. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Three punter time. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: An Welcome to the Action Network podcast Buckets edition. 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. My name is Matt Moore. 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm the senior NBA writer of the Action Network. Join 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: my colleague, NBA Futures analyst Brandon Anderson. This is your 10 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: NBA Draft edition of the Action Network podcast. We're gonna 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 3: get you props on the NBA draft breakdown, detail where 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: the value is and what is turning out to be 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: a seemingly as we record this on a Tuesday afternoon, 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: pretty uncertain and voladell situation with the NBA Draft. 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: We'll see if it actually works out that way. Lots 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: of uncover here. 17 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 3: We'll try to give you the best intel sides value 18 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 3: all of that on today's show. A reminder, everything that 19 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: you want to know about betting can be found in 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: the award winning Action Network app. 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: It's the best way for you to track your picks. 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: We'll have NBA draft props in there by the time 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: that Thursday rolls around, so you can track your picks 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 3: on Draft Night should be a good time all sorts 25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: of information on the offseason win totals, MVP, all sorts 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: of stuff, as well as obviously every sport covered in 27 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: the award winning Action Network app. 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Brandon, we have three days to go before the NBA Draft. 29 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 3: I guess technically two days if you want to just 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: do it in terms of linear time, and so we 31 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: have lots of kind of breakdown here. Let's go ahead 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: and start at the top. So because that's where most 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: people want to bet, right, they want to bed just 34 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 3: like the top pick who's going now number one? 35 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: They want they want the cliff notes. The answer I 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: have for you is, I don't know. 37 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: I don't know who's number one, and I don't know 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: that Orlando Magic, who hold the number one pick, I 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: don't know if they know. 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: If they do, they did a really good job of 41 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: not telling anybody. Here's what we've seen over the last 42 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: thirty six hours. Sunday afternoon. 43 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: Pala bank Caaro is plus sixteen hundred to go number one. 44 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: Everyone assumed it was Jabbari and then chet Me me 45 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: Chit and then Jabbari. 46 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: But Palavankaro was gonna go three to Houston. 47 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: Houston would love to have Palabankaro money starts coming in 48 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: on Sunday, and ban Cao by the time that Monday 49 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: rolls around has moved to plus seven hundred plus nine hundred. 50 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 3: Of the books that had those bets open, super Book 51 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: opens their NBA Draft props for number that day on Monday, 52 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: they opened with Palabankaro plus sixteen hundred. By the time 53 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: I logged off last night at one forty six a m. 54 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: Eastern time, palaban Cao was plus two fifty or shorter 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: to go number one. An incredible amount of steam, to 56 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: the point where now I'm wondering if the sharps are 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: betting it down so they can bet Jabari. 58 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: I'll just ask you this, if somebody's like, I want. 59 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: To put one bet on the NBA Draft number one, 60 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: what would you tell them? 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: Well, Matt, you know where I'm gonna go on this one, 62 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: because it's back to the same spot I've gone since 63 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: lottery night. Because all the talk, all the steam is 64 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: on Polo Jabbari remains the favorite has been the whole 65 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: way along. 66 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: You know. 67 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: Jonathan Givoni, as mock just says, every executive I've talked to, 68 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: every team expects Jabbari to go number one. So where 69 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: am I going Option D? The third guy, Chet Holm 70 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: Grin I still think Chet as a connection to John Hammond. 71 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: There makes a lot of sense that the guys at 72 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: the Orlando Magic that know the team best still are 73 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: very confident in Chat being a strong fit for the team. 74 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: And here's the thing, because all the movement has comeing 75 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: on Pablo and Jabari is still strong, Chat has dropped 76 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: and is now at plus three seventy five on win 77 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 2: bet right now. So this is not me saying I 78 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: think Chat Holme Green is going to be the number 79 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: one pick. Like, yeah, I think it's very possible. We 80 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: only have implied to odds that what is that I 81 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: think twenty three percent. We only need Chet to be 82 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: the number one pick a third of the time in 83 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: what is a three horse race and a guy that 84 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: many evaluators have at the top of the class. My 85 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: mo on draft betting is bet on certainty. So as 86 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: all the emotion comes in on one side, I'm taking, 87 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, where the tide has dropped on, I'm gonna 88 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: take Chat and just kind of play them out there. 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: There's value on him. 90 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 3: I think it's a good bet, So there's two questions 91 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: about what how you want to you want to bet 92 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 3: the NBA draft? 93 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: Do you want to bet for certainty? 94 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 3: Or do you want to bet forour value because we 95 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: can't tell you like, Okay, this number is wrong. This 96 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: guy's clearly going number one and his value and his 97 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: number is a plus, but. 98 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: That's not what happening. 99 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Would do you agree with me that the most likely 100 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: scenario is that Javaris Smith still goes number one? 101 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely? 102 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 103 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: So do we agree that it's probably like thirty five 104 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 3: percent ish in that situation? 105 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: Like I think it's a concert Well, no, yeah, I'll. 106 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Say this, I quld higher than thirty five. I'd say 107 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: Jabbari closer to fifty, maybe like fifty Jabbari and then 108 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: closer twenty five twenty five split for the other two 109 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: or maybe maybe like a forty five thirty thirty. My 110 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 2: number is deeming that upright, but something like that. Jabari 111 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: is the favorite he should be, but not enough for 112 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: the numbers at. 113 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: So I wrote this last night and a column that 114 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: hasn't gone up yet because I'm still gathering info on 115 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 3: various things. But you know, the imply dogs for bank 116 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: CAO is longest number which I found last night at 117 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: plus two fifty, DraftKings are twenty eight point six percent, 118 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: and at home Gren at plus three thirty. It's not 119 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: plus three seventy five, but I was off off of 120 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: the last night's number. Those seem accurately priced. Like a 121 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: twenty five percent chance for both of those guys seems 122 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 3: about right. I would probably put them closer to fifty 123 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: five to sixty percent, honestly, if we're talking about it 124 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 3: and I put bank Caroo maybe forty to forty five 125 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 3: percent or not Bankaro, but Smith at forty to forty 126 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: five percent. Now, the reason is just because I guess 127 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 3: a lot of this is we're just we would be 128 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: a little bit surprised if so many people were wrong 129 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: about Jabari being the guy Jabari went in for a workout. 130 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: To my knowledge, Ben Caro has not worked out for the. 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: Magic, which is an interesting thing to note. 132 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: Holmgren's medicals have not been released to the Magic, So 133 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: that's that's a thing here. Javari Smith is clearly like 134 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: the safe pick here, and you're getting him at minus 135 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 3: one forty. So like, I can't tell you that that's 136 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 3: a bad bet. I'm just telling you that you're paying 137 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: juice on a number that I don't think is certain. 138 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: So that's that's where we're at with the number one pick, 139 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 3: and honestly the number two and the number three, because 140 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: there are consequences all. 141 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: The way down. Let's go to one of your best bets. 142 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: Give me one of your best bets for the NBA Draft. 143 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Well, let's stay near the top then, because like you said, 144 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: people like to go on the names we know at 145 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: the top. So a name that you know if you 146 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: are listening to an NBA Draft episode is Keegan Murray. 147 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: Keigin Murray is the unknown quantity coming out of Iowa 148 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: is a great combo forward. I am fading the popular 149 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: opinion right now. I'm taking Keegan Murray over five and 150 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: a half draft position. I'm getting that at plus one 151 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: ninety at Draft Kings right now. So the five and 152 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: a half is heavily juiced to the under I know. 153 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: We on our Buckets podcast that just dropped, we had 154 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: Sam vasinion. Sam talked a lot about King's four and 155 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: the Pistons a F five both having interest in Keegan Murray. 156 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: We're seeing a lot of that from a lot of places. 157 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: So clearly Keegan is a name in that four, five, six, 158 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: seven range that he's going to be expected to go there. Again, 159 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: I'm playing the value here, so plus one ninety I'm 160 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: getting almost two to one on a chance he falls out. 161 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Look, we just said Jabari and Chet 162 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: and I'm blanking. Who's our third big guy in Paulo? Jabari, 163 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: Chet Polo are in the top five. We know Jane 164 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: and Ivy is going to go four or five, like 165 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: we're almost certain four of our top five picks are 166 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 2: locked in. That leaves one spot for Keigan Murray. Kegan 167 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: is the fifth of the five guys to go in there. 168 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: That's just a very narrow outcome to be betting on 169 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: and Keegan Murray. He's gonna turn twenty two in August. 170 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: That would make him the second oldest top five pick 171 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: in the last nine drafts. He's a bit of a 172 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: tweeter that works better in the modern NBA. But some 173 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: of the advantages he had in Iowa spacing and in 174 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: the post are not going to be there in the NBA. 175 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: I just I can see a case for Benedict Mathrin 176 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: to get in the top five. I could see Dice 177 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: and Daniels or shading sharp to get in there. I 178 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: could see the Kings or Pistons trading out for veterans, 179 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: and if they're training for veterans, they're probably trading for 180 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: a team looking for a young upside swing that reads 181 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 2: to me more sharp Daniels or Mather, and then it 182 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: does Kegan Murray. So I'm just gonna stick to my 183 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: position here. I'm fading Keg and Murray. 184 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: I'll take the over, so I have the under on 185 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: Keegan Murray. But like, I'm very worried that you're gonna 186 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 3: You're gonna cast that and I'm gonna be wrong. I'm 187 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: concerned about it. And here's why the Kings are making 188 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: a big to do about we really love Kegan Murray. 189 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: Like Jonathan Givoni from ESPN reported that uh owner of 190 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 3: ek Rowdy Day, has taken a liking to Murray. 191 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: If that is smoke. 192 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: It's to get somebody to trade up, right, It's to 193 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: get somebody to trade up and take that pick. It's like, hey, 194 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: we really like this guy, Will I just take him? 195 00:08:55,360 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: Bear Bear offering might just take him. And there's still 196 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: kind of like an idea of that's the case from 197 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: a lot of people that I've talked to Ben Mathurin 198 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 3: is gaining a little bit of esteem, so I think 199 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: there's probably value on Matherine's. Under the key here is 200 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: Ivy is that there's a discrepancy much like honestly I 201 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: didn't mention this, but like much like with the top three, 202 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: if you look at most of the big boards, a 203 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: lot of the big boards have Ben Caro number one. 204 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, I think Ben Carroll is probably like 205 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: the best player on the board, but they don't have 206 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: them mocked at number one, which doesn't make any sense. 207 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: A lot of they saying big boards have Ivy number four, right, 208 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: but the King's like, it's very clear the Kings are 209 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: not drafting Ivy. Ivy's comments about like it basically it 210 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 3: wouldn't be the worst situation, okay. And then it just 211 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 3: seems very unlikely that with Daron Fox are going to 212 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: go that route. Right, with such a high value pick, 213 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: you're trying to build a win now situation. Why you're 214 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 3: gonna take another point guard because everyone kap forgets, like, 215 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: you know, Davee on Mitchell's is hanging around there guard 216 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: as well. So the idea is that if somebody trades up, 217 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: they might take Ivy, and now we're down to one 218 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 3: spot for five and a half and that's Detroit, who 219 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: also may trade the pick. But if they keep it, 220 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 3: Mathurin seems pretty likely. I know the Pistons are interested 221 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: in Mathurine, but they also like Murray, like Murray is 222 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: like there too, but now we're in a real pin 223 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 3: flip situation and you're getting a plus number on it. 224 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: So like I have to say at this point, not 225 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: that I dislike my bet. I think I'm okay on it. 226 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 3: Like I still think that Murray has gotten enough interest 227 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: from enough teams, because that was my equation was, I 228 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: know that there are I know I've heard the Spurs 229 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: and the Pacers are both very high on Murray and 230 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: looking the trade up and don't think they can get 231 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: him because he's becoming that valuable. I tend to at 232 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: the under on those guys because it's like Josh Getty 233 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 3: last year, where Josh Giddy went from like Josh Gakil 234 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: like sixteen seventeen, Well, you know, I might go eleven 235 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: people really like him to okay, see takes him in 236 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: the top six. So it's like, you know, there's all 237 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 3: these kinds of opportunities to track that movement, and Murray's 238 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: a guy that's getting that now. But we have two 239 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: days to go, and if somebody else gets hotter between 240 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: now and the draft, Murray be the guy that falls. 241 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: Give me another one of your best bets. 242 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just add to that too, Benedict Matherin. You 243 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: can get him at five to one right now to 244 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: be the number five pick. I had that at ten 245 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: to one a day ago in my betting mock draft. 246 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 2: I think there's still value and have five to one there. 247 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: He seems to be the other guy if they don't 248 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 2: take Kegan Murray, keep the pick at number five. So 249 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: I think that if you like that angle, that's a 250 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: way to get a little more juice to it. My 251 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: favorite prop on the board right now is Akcha Agbaji 252 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: over thirteen and a half. So here's the case. I 253 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: like Agbaji. This is not a pick against or for 254 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 2: the player's talent. I think Agbaji to number fourteen to 255 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Calves. I think that is a very strong 256 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: fit for them. The Calves bring in a wing shooter, 257 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 2: a ready made guy. Ag Baji is twenty two. He's 258 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 2: a knockdown shooter. He just won a national championship for 259 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: Kansas again known commodity, And we've seen a lot of 260 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: these like blue chip school, known commodity guys go right 261 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: around the fringe lottery. So I think this number is 262 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: very sharp. Thirteen and a half. I like Calves at fourteen. 263 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: I like Fournet's at fifteen. Charlotte loves to bring in 264 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: those blue chips school guys. But to me, that's the ceiling, 265 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 2: that's where that's where Akbaji starts to go. Hawks at sixteen, 266 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: Wolves at nineteen. A lot of NBA teams want to 267 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: bring in a twenty two year old who can play 268 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: right now and hit, hit shots and defend. That all 269 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,599 Speaker 2: makes sense, but you're the wings that are going to 270 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 2: go ahead of ok schak Baji. We know in the 271 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 2: top ten in all likelihood, Ben Matherin, Johnny Davis, Dyson Daniels, 272 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: Shaden Sharp, AJ Griffin, these guys are all definitely out 273 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: of Akbaji. Malki Brandham, he's a guy from Ohio State. 274 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 2: He's rising up draft boards. He's a couple of years younger. 275 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: He's three years younger actually, So you have to bet 276 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: on where will Brandon be three years from now versus 277 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: ak Baji. Right now, Husman Jang is the international wing rising. 278 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: Even guys like Jalen Williams or Pat Baldwin Junior, high 279 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: potential guys, I wouldn't be shocked to see go ahead 280 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: of Buk Baji of wings. That is a lot of 281 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: guys that he has to go in front of, like 282 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: half of them to get into the lottery thirteen or above. 283 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: So I like the over thirteen and a half. I 284 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: want to grab that number though, because it's starting to 285 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: rise and I do not want to slip to fourteen 286 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: and a half or I lose that Calves possibility. But 287 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: that is my favorite pick available right now. 288 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. 289 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: I think what's interesting here is if you were to 290 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 3: go under, it was trying to think about who would go, 291 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: who would fall right, and if he did, the most 292 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: likely candidates probably A J. 293 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: Griffin and Shaden Sharp. 294 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: Those are probably the two that I would to point 295 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 3: to and go because I don't think Johnny Davis slips. 296 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: I don't think. 297 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: Is not going to slip and Daniels So I think 298 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 3: in general, I think that there's probably. 299 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: A if somebody took a boggy for the certainty rather 300 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: than the immense question marks with aj Griffin's health or 301 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: with shrad and Sharp just the unknown. That's what that's 302 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 2: the scenario. 303 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and but I think in general you're fine because 304 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: Brandham is getting a lot of a buzz too. I 305 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: would be rised if so Hun did not go before 306 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: at Baji the if yeah before song. 307 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: For me, this is a really this is kind of 308 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 2: a three way back. This is a bet on Malachi 309 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: Brandham and a bet on Usman Jang. Like there are 310 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: two of my favorite weight risers, and this is a 311 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: bet on I think one or both of those guys 312 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: get ahead of Akbaji and that this is a kind 313 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: of a similar position thing. So it's a way for 314 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: me to bet on those guys by not betting on 315 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: them and betting on like Boji to be the faller 316 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: out of the group. 317 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: All right, So I think about the oh, let's top 318 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 3: of Jang so because that's one of mine, who's mind 319 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: Jang under? 320 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: I think that it's Look, Ryan Rossellill talked about this 321 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: on the Simmons podcast and so it's been steamed, right 322 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: and he said, basically, there's like that there's a team 323 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: that is going to get him. 324 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: I bet him. 325 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: Actually, I went all bit further. I think top ten. 326 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 3: I went a top ten and plus two twenty five 327 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: because I think that there's been enough buzz around him 328 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: to justify taking a plus two twenty five. I don't 329 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: think them like he's absolutely going to twenty five. 330 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: This is a lo one, that's not what. 331 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: We do here. 332 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 3: But two, I do think that a lot of these 333 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 3: guys are a little bit fluid. I could see somebody 334 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: talking them into to one of the other kind of 335 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: like moves. But I do think that Usman Jang has 336 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: an Again, when we hear that one team wants him, 337 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: I think that generates a reinterest in other teams looking 338 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 3: at him, and they wind up going a little bit higher. 339 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: So I like Uzman Jing top ten plus T twenty five. 340 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Jang a lot. I've been looking at him. 341 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: You know, if you want him, you're gonna have to 342 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: buy him real fast, because his over under has been 343 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: at thirteen and a half. But just this morning, Tuesday morning, 344 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 2: that got steamed up. It's basically gone. Now you can't 345 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: bother betting at the juice I'm seeing at Caesar's. The 346 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: over under is twelve and a half on him at 347 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 2: bet three sixty five. The over under is ten and 348 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 2: a half, so you have to bet the under just 349 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: to get into the top ten, just straight up for 350 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: Usman Jang there, so he is in a draft. You know, 351 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: I've talked a lot about shad and Sharp and the 352 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: allure of the unknown young upside. Ustman Jang is quickly 353 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: becoming one of those guys kind of he supposedly grew 354 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: an inch or two over the last half of the 355 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: season he broke out playing for New Zealand. Teams are 356 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: getting more and more comfortable I think with drafting guys 357 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: that played overseas in New Zealand in that league. You know, 358 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: that's where LaMelo came from. Like where we're getting guys 359 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: who are success stories coming out from over there. So 360 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: I don't mind it. I think that's a pretty strong bet. 361 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: San Antonio at nine would be nursing pick if they 362 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: don't get Kegan as they're trying to go for him. 363 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: Just to kind of be patient with them. I could 364 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: see the Wizards at ten grabbing him, or like you said, 365 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: there's rumors of a promise, and and who's the promise. 366 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: We don't know. A lot of people think the thunder 367 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: at twelve. That's a no good for you because we 368 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: missed the top ten. But if other teams think the 369 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: promise is at twelve, maybe they trade up ahead of 370 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: them and then that's the spot where you get your 371 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: top ten pick. 372 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 3: By the way, as you're listening to this, Brandon, it's 373 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: something really awesome he did. He put together a really 374 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: awesome post that was my idea, and what he did 375 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: was he did a mock draft of picks. So you've 376 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: got a mock draft that goes to the entire mock draft, 377 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: but it's a value pick on every single position, even 378 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 3: if there's a few that are passes. You get a 379 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: prop basically to bet at almost every single spot. Check 380 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 3: it out on the Action Network app right now. In 381 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: that you have AJ Griffin going number ten to the 382 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 3: Washington Wizards. I've been high on AJ Griffin for some time. 383 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 3: He's a guy that I heard very early on was 384 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 3: in talks for like to go way way high. That's 385 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 3: fallen off, I think a little bit understandably some concerns 386 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: about the knee injury in high school, but I haven't 387 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: heard anything that's been like a real big red medical 388 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: red flag on him and The only thing I've heard 389 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 3: from people whenever I've asked about him is absolutely incredible shooter. 390 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 3: Just an absolutely incredible shooter. That guy's going to get 391 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: buckets in the NBA over Under was a ten and 392 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: a half a mood to eleven and a half. I 393 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: bet at ten and a half and eleven and a half. 394 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: I think there's a chance that somebody takes a shot 395 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 3: on him in the top ten. Now I'm getting tight 396 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: here because if I think that if I hate Bank, 397 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 3: Caro Smith yet Ivy Murray Matherin. 398 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: James, that's seven. 399 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: Daniels Daniels, that's eight, I'm running as slots here. 400 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do think that there's a little bit 401 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: of value on AJ Griffin, especially, I think at eleven 402 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: and a half. I'll say this, I think eleven is 403 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: a stopping point. I think it's very I bet Nicks 404 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 3: to take him at plus five hundred. I think there's 405 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: value on that. That doesn't mean that it's it's like, again, 406 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 3: this is all probabilities, but from what I understand, the 407 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: Knicks are high on AJ Griffin. It makes sense for 408 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: him a spot there. You've also got AJ Griffin unders. 409 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah, I do, but talk a 410 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: little bit about because you know this better than me 411 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: talking about the CAA connection with the Knicks and why 412 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: that's a particularly good connection for them. 413 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so what you've got as far as the thaight, 414 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: that's obviously like all right, Leon Rose is runs the 415 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 3: team and used to be working at CAA. Like that's 416 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: a pretty important thing to kind of look at. A. J. 417 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 3: Griffin is repped by Austin Brown and Company at c 418 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: AA Sports. It's pretty simple here where that if you 419 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: have these pre existing connections, the agencies are interwoven through 420 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: the draft process, the interment, through the MBA they operate. 421 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: They're the undercurrent, right and so when you have these 422 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: types of connections, if there's a long standing connection between 423 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 3: agents and a GM, it just kind of greases the 424 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: wheels and it makes it less shaky. Like one of 425 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: the reasons I think that Shadon Sharp has gotten zero 426 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: buzz is because his agent only represents him. That's his 427 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: only Agent's been a guy that has known him forever 428 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: and is now representing him as his agent. And there's 429 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: sometimes issues with you know, those kind of connections you 430 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: don't have that you don't do constant business with somebody 431 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: and feel like I have to feel like there's a 432 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: relationship here so my clients get signed or that I 433 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: can get guys in for free agency. So for me, 434 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 3: Aj Griffin, I think that there's a strong possibility of 435 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: him not falling further than eleven, and I feel good 436 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: enough to bet that on the under. 437 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like the AJ Griffin onder. I'm glad 438 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: you clarified that with it because the Knick stride eleven. 439 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: That's what the position that has moved means that by 440 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: taking the under, we now get the Knicks two. So 441 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: I want to specify I in my betting mock, I 442 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 2: took AJ Griffin under ten and a half because that's 443 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: what the line was, and it was plus two ten. 444 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: That's still available. That's at DraftKings right now. You can 445 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 2: do that. I like better the under eleven and a 446 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: half even at plus one twenty that's at points bet 447 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: I'm losing the juice, you know, me and Matt I 448 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: don't like to give away the value here, So you know, 449 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: I really want the Knicks in the equation because of 450 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: the things that you just said. AJ Griffin is an elite, 451 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 2: elite shot maker, Like this is a guy His game 452 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: reminds me watching him of a player like a Devin 453 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: Booker or a Jimmy Butler, but if Butler actually took 454 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: the shot. He is a knockdown three point shooter. He 455 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: had almost fifty percent of his threes this year, and 456 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: he did that while having fluctuating playing time and while 457 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: navigating injuries that he came off from high school and 458 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: early this season. He's a scalable player. Every NBA team 459 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 2: wants a wing that can come in and shoot anywhere 460 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 2: close to fifty percent threes. You're gonna come in and 461 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: play right away. Yes, seven foot wingspan a thing too 462 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: that I like about him personally. We've seen, especially with 463 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 2: Duke and Kentucky players, we see guys get a bit 464 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: pigeon hole into a role where okay, hey, we only 465 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: got you for a year, aj you're our shooter. Go 466 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 2: beyond the wing and knock down shots. And then like look, 467 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: Devin Booker from Kentucky, we see him get to the 468 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: NBA and it's like, oh what we put the ball 469 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: in Devin Booker's hands and he can navigate picking rolls, 470 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: and he can get the pull up and he can 471 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: create for others. There's a lot of kind of latent 472 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: opportunity there with some of these guys. I've seen Griffin 473 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: as high, that's top five on big boards out there. 474 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: The injury question mark is real and I can't speak 475 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: to that. I don't know what the injury thing is. 476 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 2: Maybe that just ends up costing him. But from a 477 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 2: talent standpoint, it would be really surprising for me to 478 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 2: see the follow him past eleven, especially with that Knixt connection. 479 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: They're built in. 480 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 3: And you got one more. I think we have one 481 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: for the later round, a later first round. What's your 482 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 3: later first round pick? 483 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, my last one. I'm fading Jayden Hardy. I'll take 484 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 2: the over twenty three and a half. Jane Hardy is 485 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 2: one of those G League ignite guys. This year. Coming 486 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 2: into the season, he was supposedly a possible top five pick. 487 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: It was kind of like, all right, well, you guys 488 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: know Jalen Green last year, Jayden Hardy this year. It 489 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: didn't work out for him. Jalen Green improved a lot 490 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 2: as the season went on. Hardy improved a little, but 491 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: it's just not quite the same. His size profile is 492 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 2: not great. His wingspan and his height kind of measurements 493 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: came up a bit short at the combine. Hardy is 494 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 2: already twenty years old, and he has just a really 495 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: questionable feel for the game. He also is a big 496 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: difference from Jalen Green. Green is a nuclear athlete. We 497 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: knew that every time we saw him. Hardy lacks explosion. 498 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: He's has trouble separating, He's had trouble finishing, really rough 499 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: shot selection. That might be built in a bit to 500 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: the G League ignite plan, Like they're trying to develop 501 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: these guys, so maybe they're encouraging to, you know, do 502 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: your thing, Jaden. But he shot I think thirty five 503 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: percent from the field for the year, not from three 504 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: from the field. So to me, Jaden Hardy I think 505 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: is a theoretical basketball player right now. And that doesn't 506 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: stop you from getting drafted. We draft a lot of 507 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: theoretical basketball players. But to me, Jane Hardy is the 508 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 2: reason Shandon Sharp didn't play this year. He's the outcome 509 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: of hey tantalizing youth and upside. Ooh that really didn't 510 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: work out great right now? So I think Harden is 511 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: slipping a lot. Hardy's gonna slip a lot. I wouldn't 512 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: be stunned if he fell out of the first round 513 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: entirely at twenty three and a half, he can still 514 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: kind of be a you know, one of those late 515 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 2: good teams take a flyer on him. I like the 516 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 2: over and it's just a guy that I feel like 517 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: I need a fade right now. 518 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, mine is a longer shot. I've got Trevor Keels 519 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 3: first round at plus four twenty five. This is a 520 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 3: longer shot. This is base early on intel. I've heard 521 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: I know three teams and in the final ten of 522 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 3: the draft that are high on Keels. I've heard his 523 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: range between sixteen and thirty two, So there's a two 524 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: spot bump where he winds up outside of this, which 525 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: I'm fine with taking the risk on that. I don't 526 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: think that this is like an absolute because once you 527 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: get past twenty, we start to get into like the 528 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: boards get a lot longer, the options get a lot lighter, 529 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 3: and you can take more flyers and there's more trades 530 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 3: and those types of things. So there's a little bit 531 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: more risk involved here. But at plus four to twenty five, 532 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: based off of what I've heard is that Trevor Keels 533 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 3: of Duke I'll be honestly, Brandon just like this is 534 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: a non betting thing. I like the Duke guys in 535 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 3: this draft. I like Wendell Moore, I like Trevor Keels, 536 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: I like Palo Bankero. 537 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: Like I do. 538 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: This is a strong Duke draft in terms of these guys, 539 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: and I always kind of think that if you're getting, 540 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: like if you're able to get, it's really interesting because 541 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: it's like there's Trevor Keel and Christian Braun and both 542 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 3: those guys may not go, you know, top thirty, which 543 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: is a little bit surprised me for guys from marquee 544 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: programs in a draft that isn't necessarily thought to be 545 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: as strong like that. If it was a super strong draft, 546 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: I'd be like, that's how deep it is. Even guys 547 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: from Duke and Kansas can't get into the top thirty. 548 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 3: But guys from I think established programs. I think there's 549 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 3: a little bit more existing relationship there, and there's to me, 550 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: there's value there on Trevor Keels to go first round 551 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: plus four twenty five. 552 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think a problem with both Brown and Keels 553 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 2: is then measured really poorly. And I know I keep 554 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: bringing that up last week, Well, we don't play the 555 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: game with measurements well, you do, because wingspan is a 556 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: big thing for defense especially and getting creation and getting 557 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 2: your shots up. So that's been a problem for both 558 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: of them. Keels is not even nineteen years old yet 559 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: kill is one of the younger players in the draft. 560 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't like him personally. He's one guy on Duke 561 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: that I do not like. But that's not the game. 562 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 2: The game is when will he get drafted. Here's why 563 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: I think your bet is a good bet. The very 564 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: first game of the season, Duke played against Kentucky. It's 565 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 2: that it's the opening tournament where they have like Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, 566 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: and Michigan State. Every year they play though, it's like 567 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: college basketball is here, and it's the game that all 568 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 2: the NBA executives go to because you get four marquee 569 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 2: schools and you get them all in person. All the 570 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: NBA execs are at that game. Here's what Trevor Keels 571 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 2: did in that game. He scored twenty five points on 572 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: ten of eighteen from the field. He was the Duke star. 573 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 2: He was the breakout guy in the opening game in 574 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 2: the opening night. Now, to be fair, the other star 575 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: that night was oakshak Baji so I don't like that, 576 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: considering my bad earlier, but there is real anchoring bias. 577 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: You see a guy in person, you get a first impression, 578 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: you fall in love and I think a lot of 579 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: people fall in love with Trevor Keels and only takes 580 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: one guy to a fall in love with Here's what 581 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 2: I saw. That's the first thing I saw, and then 582 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: you kind of you anchor to that, you add to 583 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: that your impression later in the year. I think that 584 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: helps your case a lot. For Keels. I've seen him 585 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: right on that fringe. It's not where I would draft him, 586 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: but I think you're getting a really good number. I 587 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: think that's a really smart long shot. 588 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: At Okay, let's go to wrap it up with the 589 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: Action Network podcast. If you want more draft coverage, Oh boy, 590 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 3: do you want to go check out Buckets if you're 591 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 3: listening for it. We got brandis mock draft over the 592 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 3: Action Network app. Just download the app going to be 593 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: on the NBA page front page. 594 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: Start looking at that. 595 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: I'll have Intel reports Tuesday, probably Wednesday, maybe Thursday. 596 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: Buckets. 597 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: We talked to Sam Viaseni from The Athletic on Monday. 598 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: That's in your podcast right now on Wednesday, we're doing 599 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: a full breakdown with our guy Luke Swain. We'll have 600 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: a big podcast on that as our final best bets. 601 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 3: We'll have two podcasts where you're over a Buckets that 602 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 3: goes way more into deep dives. This should get you set, though. 603 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: If you have questions, hit us up on Twitter. I'm 604 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: at HB Basketball, Brandon's at Wheaton Brando w. 605 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: H E A t O N. Brando. 606 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: Hope you guys enjoy it. 607 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: Figure around the Action Network podcast as we get set 608 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 3: for NFL training camp next month as well as MLB Baseball, UFC. 609 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 3: Everything you need here on the Action Network Podcast. 610 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Let's get Buckets.