1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: Welcome to Can't Fully Reckless, the production of iHeart Radio 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: and the Black Effect. 3 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: Oh shit we on a air. 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back to yet another carefully reckless episode with your 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: girl Jessilarious. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: And what I be doing. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I'll be fixing mess not only here on the Carefully 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Reckless podcast on the Black Effect Network under our Heart, 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: I be doing that shit on Breakfast Club each and 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: every Thursday. Well it alternates between Wednesdays and Thursdays or whatever, 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: but that's what I'll be doing, y'all. So We're gonna 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: jump straight into it. And I'm so excited. Guess what 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: your guess why? I guess why? 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 2: Yes? Why? Because we have a fucking voice memo. Thank you. 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: So we're just gonna jump straight into it. Here we go. 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: What's so, jes, I don't think I ever ever heard 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 3: a guy come on here, but maybe I'll be the first. 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: Please bear with me. I do have my son in 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: the car. 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Okay, you not with You're not the first. 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: Out with my significant other for probably a little bit 22 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: over three years. 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: We just had our second child a week ago, and 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: I would. 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: Say within these last three years I have been having 26 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: issues with you know, her not wanting to grow and 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 3: just you know, help me push you know forth in 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 3: my business, you know, and and and just help help me. 29 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 3: Just just be that that woman for me that they 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: can sense. So when we had our first child, I 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 3: you know, gave her the option to go to work 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: or stay home, and she is not to stay home. 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: And and and that's how I like it. 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 4: Man. I feel like, you know, any I feel like. 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: Own black men shouldn't have their significant other, uh stay 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: home and. 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: And take care of the household while we're out doing 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: the farmwork. And my Max was just trying to build 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 4: and grow my business. 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: And you just make sure that my family never have 41 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: to go to work. And I would say, one of 42 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: the things that really gauzes me is we're avery almost home, buddy, 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: is that she does. 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 4: Not put forth any effort to show that she values 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 4: he has been while I'm not here going to work 46 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 4: for difficult people, if you know what I mean. It's 47 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 4: just as a black man working out in an American 48 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 4: assistance of all in general. 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: But I'm sacrificing that so she ain't got to deal 50 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: with it. 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: And I don't wh I keep my boys on, you know, 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: so while. 53 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: I'm putting forth, you know, my hardest work, working overtime 54 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: every day, putting network on Saturdays, and then coming home 55 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 3: and working the extra you know, three to four hours 56 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: on my own personal business that I've. 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: Been working on for the last you know, four years 58 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: or so. 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: I need her to ask me step up and hold 60 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: it down at the house, and she has. 61 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: Not been doing that. 62 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: Like literally for the last three years some of my relationships, 63 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: she has literally not done anything. 64 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: And I said rules, like, hey, if. 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: You're gonna be in stay at home mom, you went 66 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: to homeschool like kids, let's start working on the curriculum 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: for them, you know, because I don't agree with the 68 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: public school system. I feel like young black men should 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 3: be taught differently. And it's just like she doesn't do anything. Man, 70 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: it just bothers me, and it kind of kills my 71 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: sex drive with her, because like when I come home 72 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: every single day of the week and I'm so pissed 73 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: off because not only I'm dealing with these white folks 74 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: at work, I got to come home to a dirty house, 75 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: food not being cooked, you know a lot of the 76 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: times I'm cooking, and just she's just not holding her 77 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: up her end of the day. If I know, no 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: means I am not going to break up with her. 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 4: I cannot destroy my family like that. You know. I 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: got two boys that needs me and the two playing household. 81 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: It's just that's extremely important to me because I didn't 82 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 4: have that and it affected me a lot. 83 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: But when you're dealing with somebody who don't respect growth 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: and developing themselves as a you know, person in general, 85 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 3: it really bothers me. 86 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: And You've got a lot of people who are just 87 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: okay with just. 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: Going to work and and just looking forward to the weekend, 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: and I'm not. And I'm like, I'm. 90 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 4: Grinding, and I need my partner to know, like, hey. 91 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: I need you to grind with me one quickst album. 92 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: With my business, you know, I'm probably projected to make 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: an extra thirty to fifty thousand dollars in my small 94 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: business this year. 95 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: But I'm doing everything by myself. 96 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 3: Like I have to answer all the emails, I have 97 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: to talk to. 98 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: The people that I hired to work for me to. 99 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: Do some software stuff and engineering type stuff. I gotta 100 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: do all that. And it would really suit me to 101 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: have her hands as emails, have her contact, or even 102 00:04:58,920 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: have her do. 103 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 4: Some social media stuff for me. But it's literally like 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 4: she doesn't really value it. 105 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: And like, sexually, I love it if I love having 106 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: sex with her, but for me to boost my energy 107 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: with her, it's just like I need some type of 108 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: intellect between us to be formed, because like, it just 109 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: doesn't really drive me to want to be so romantic 110 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: when I have somebody who don't even care about growth. 111 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 4: And I would say we are. 112 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: In therapy right now, but I don't really see therapy 113 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: working when I have already communicated. 114 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: Her like, hey, look, look if I need you. 115 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: Like it's tough out here, man, and I need you 116 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: to you know, I need you to pick up that 117 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 3: second half. 118 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: Of me while I'm at work. 119 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: And I do understand what got kids and she's a 120 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: stay at home mom, but imagine if she had to 121 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: go to work, and it'd be a lot different. 122 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: My question to you is like how do I how do. 123 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: I get her to understand the value that she brings 124 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 3: to me as for one being at being at home 125 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: taking care of kids, having a freedom not to go 126 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: to work, and didn't deal with the bullshit. 127 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: I deal with, you know, It's like, how do I 128 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 4: get that through her? Because like I have already maxed 129 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: out of my life. I bought my second house when 130 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: I was twenty nine years old. I make good money, 131 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 4: you know, I got my family. 132 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's just the thing that's lacking is that 133 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: that woman. Man Like, I need her to pick up 134 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: and be that rock for me. 135 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 4: Man Like. I literally, I literally do so much to 136 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: the points where it's like. 137 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: Me to the point where I'm like, man Like, a 138 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: lot of men go through this kind of shit and 139 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 3: they end up getting aside piece or something like that, 140 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: Hey we home, but let's go in to eat. 141 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 4: They end up getting aside chicken. I ain't trying to 142 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: do that, man like. 143 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: I like, I like my girls, So just just help 144 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: me out. 145 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: Man. 146 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: But I like what you're doing in the breakfast club. 147 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: And keep up the good work. You're doing great. Your 148 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 3: reading is getting a lot better too, by. 149 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: The way, a whole lot thanks. 150 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: First of all, you know what, I'm gonna come back 151 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: to that, all right, I'm gonna come back to that. 152 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: Hold up, Hold up, I know the shit getting good. 153 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: But listen to just a couple seconds of a commercial. 154 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: If you love me, you'll listen. But no, I just 155 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: couldn't get past your baby in the back. You know, 156 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: even though I have I'm pregnant right now already. That 157 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: just gave me baby fever again. Babies, just give me 158 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: baby fever period, pregnant or not, honey, I just oh 159 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: my god, I love this baby. It's like, Nigga, I'm hungry. 160 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: You want to be talking talking to the stranger about 161 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: my mom. Nigga, come on home, get me out this car. 162 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: All right? Anyway, all right, let's get to that. And 163 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: then secondly, thank you so much. 164 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate you and and the fact that you complimented 165 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: my reading or whatever, which is why I'm glad that 166 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: you sent them the voice. No, nigga, ha ha, so 167 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: I would have to read just shit because that was long. 168 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: But let's jump into it. So obviously, either you two 169 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: are from totally different walks of life, you know, y'all, 170 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: y'all are bought up different differently. You know, you care 171 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: about things that at twenty nine, like you said, you 172 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: was already buying your second property. You know what I'm saying, 173 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to the average twenty nine year old ain't 174 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: thinking about that, you get what I'm saying, Or just 175 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: another twenty nine year old, you know, could be thinking 176 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: about what she gonna wake up and post on social 177 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: media tomorrow. You know, it's just it's different walks of 178 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: life that different paths, different mindsets, different thinking. Okay, now, 179 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: you let this go on for three years. You told 180 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: me three years. I'm just quoting you three That's what 181 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: Also like when y'all send voice notes in because I 182 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: can challenge what you said. 183 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: Three years. 184 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: You let this go on. Okay, Now, I know you 185 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: said you've talked to her and everything. I'm gonna just 186 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: give you a couple things that it could be if 187 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: it ain't the different worlds. 188 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: Okay, she just had a baby. That baby sounds fairly young. 189 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: I think you said he's a couple months or no, 190 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: you should she just had a baby a week ago 191 00:08:58,480 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: something like that. 192 00:08:59,160 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: I know you just said that. 193 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: You y'all have a newborn, of course, a small infant child. 194 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about maybe she is having post 195 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: traumatic stress disorder? Have you thought about like, maybe she 196 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: is miserable in her own right, Maybe she wants to 197 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: do something else so badly with her life. Maybe she 198 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be a stay at home mom just 199 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: because that's the mold that you want her to fit. 200 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: Me, because that's what you see for her. 201 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: Have you ever thought that maybe she had dreams but 202 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: she put them aside to have your two babies. 203 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. 204 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: Have you thought about the fact that what's running through 205 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: her mind when you are out there and those two 206 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: babies are that she's not getting proper sleep. 207 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: Have you thought about that? 208 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: Now? 209 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: These are not excuses, these are facts, and this could 210 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: very well be what's going on with her. 211 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: I just want to tell you don't. 212 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: And I know you're not discrediting her, and I know 213 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: that you feel that you have given her grace, But 214 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: have you you got to think about that? Have you 215 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: given her grace all right until you are able to 216 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: have a baby and then have another one and then 217 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: you want me to cook and clean and still you 218 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: know now, listen, it's been done. I'm not sitting here 219 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: telling you that it is not possible, because baby, it 220 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: is possible. 221 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: It's possible. Black women do it every day. 222 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: White women do it every day, Hispanic women do All 223 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: other women do it every day. I'm not here to 224 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: narrow it down to race, but I'm just saying women 225 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: do it every day. Okay, so it is not impossible, 226 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 1: but everybody is different. Their mindsets are different. Okay, everybody 227 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: is not strong after birth mentally. 228 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying. 229 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: And then you say you bought up the thing of Okay, 230 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: we can do therapy, but I feel like me talking 231 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: to her should be enough, should be mm hmm. Because 232 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: you're in the house, you have a bias opinion. You 233 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: know you're in it. Maybe y'all do need a professional. Okay, 234 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: I understand. 235 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: Brother. 236 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: I just want to say congratulations on you being that 237 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: strong black man for your family. All right, you're building 238 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: an empire and you wanting to take care of your 239 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: family because it's not. There are many brothers like you, 240 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: but we need more. You get what I'm saying. I 241 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: do understand. I understand, But I also need you to 242 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: understand the other side of it as well, and that's 243 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: her side. You come home to a dirty house, you 244 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: feel yo, she could very well be depressed as fuck. 245 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: Right now. 246 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: You know the baby's crying, and then you know sometimes 247 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: you got to come home and cook. Let's compromise, okay, baby, 248 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: piece of day can be Thursdays and Fridays. You don't 249 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: gotta cook Monday through Friday. I'll give you that check 250 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: in with her how. 251 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: Is you today? 252 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 4: Baby? 253 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: Why is the house dirty? 254 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Is it something that I you know, it's something that 255 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: was bothering you today? How's your mental? How do you 256 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: how are you feeling? Come here and sit down. Let 257 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: the baby cry for a second. Let there is nothing 258 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: wrong with a baby crying. They strengthening them lungs. I'm 259 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: telling you all right, So nothing wrong with a baby 260 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: crying for a little minute. Y'all go sit in the 261 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: room somewhere. What happened? Why is the house dirty? Furthermore, 262 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: before we get to the house being dirty, listen, how's 263 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: your mental? How are you feeling? Let me come inside 264 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: of your world before I just come home and be 265 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: angry with you and not want to give you no 266 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: sex or I don't feel like I'm sexually attracted to 267 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: you because you know, I feel like you're lazy. Let 268 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: me figure out why I feel like you're lazy. Let's 269 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: figure out why you are changing or whatever you said. 270 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: It's been three years, sir, Why haven't y'all gotten therapy? 271 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: If this shit has not changed you like you said 272 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned therapy, y'all don't need that because you ain't 273 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: the therapist here, you know, because you have a biased opinion, 274 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: and you're already kind of frustrated. 275 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: You're already frustrated with it. 276 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: So if she's frustrated and you're frustrated, that's all it's 277 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: gonna be is just boom knocking heads, knocking heads, you 278 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Instead of knocking the boots, y'all 279 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: need to get back to y'all. Y'all sexual spice. Y'all 280 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: need to be able to put them babies down. She 281 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: needs a schedule, she needs a schedule, she needs to 282 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: prioritize certain things. 283 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: But you have to get through to her mental first. 284 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: Make sure she's mentally okay and not just being lazy, 285 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: because we can always mistake what we think somebody is 286 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: going through for some shit that they're actually really going through. 287 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: You get me, I hope you getting me all right now. 288 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: I absolutely applaud you for putting me in your business 289 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: because you did not you absolutely did not have to 290 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: do this. 291 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: But I'm happy. 292 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: And no, you're not the first man to come on 293 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: and actually ask for my advice on an issue. 294 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 2: And thank you for being so open and vulnerable. 295 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: You know, most of our black men do not feel comfortable, 296 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: you know, And because you came to me with the situation. 297 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: I know that you would be down for therapy. I 298 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: know you got to get inside your woman's brain. Babe, 299 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: you have to we hurt just like y'all hurt. You 300 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: are a black man. You are a black man, which means, yeah, 301 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: it is a lot harder for you in this world, 302 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: whatever industry you in, whatever workforce you and than other races. 303 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: Of course, you get me. You get what I'm saying. 304 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's hard for us too, 305 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: all right, to be the bore of the house. 306 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: You know, we bear everything. You get what I'm saying. 307 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: If you love me, you'll listen to this commercial and 308 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: then we'll be right back. That beautiful woman of yours 309 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: probably don't feel beautiful no more. You understand what I'm saying, 310 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: So you have to meet her on those levels, and 311 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: you already working hard. 312 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: You are. I'm applauding both of you. 313 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: I want it to be that communication where y'all take 314 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: I don't even want to call it the ego and pride, 315 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: take all the hardness away, take the defense away. Try 316 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: not to offend her so much, give her grace in 317 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: the conversation. Babe, Look what's wrong we need to see 318 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: a professional. 319 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: Let's do it. You know, maybe you should take. 320 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: And I don't know how your finances are set up, 321 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: set up, maybe you should take maybe one week or 322 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: even four days off of work, three four days off 323 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: work and live in her world and see watch her 324 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: everyday pattern. I'm not gonna say, put cameras in the house, 325 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: because what the fuck. You ain't spying on your girl. 326 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if you said your wife or your girl. 327 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: You're not spying on her. You want to have a 328 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: day in the life of her. First, You're not home 329 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: with them babies all day, not all day, all right, 330 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: you got to come home and cook dinner. Compromise that compromise, 331 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, until she gets on the schedule. Then you 332 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: said you also have a small business that allows you 333 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: to make maybe thirty to fifty thousand dollars extra. I 334 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: applaud you for that too, black man. Yes, I do, Yes, 335 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: I do. But listen to me. Maybe she does need 336 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: something to do, you know, maybe that can give her 337 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: some motivation. All right, Shit, if I feel like I'm working, 338 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing something. Maybe if and then pay her a 339 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: little something, go get her and you know, so she 340 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: go get her nails, and I told done feel good 341 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: while she's mommying all day, you know, while she's wifing 342 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: all day. These are wifely duties. You understand that shit 343 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: ain't easy. And I'm not a wife yet, but I 344 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: know plenty, I know many. I'm a daughter of one. Listen, 345 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know what it takes. You know, I'm 346 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: not a man, but I'm a daughter of a man 347 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: who was married to my mom for decades, all right, 348 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: three uh over three? 349 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: So I know that's not hard. 350 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: And I know that it sucks like hell for a 351 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: man to feel like he cannot provide for his family. 352 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: So that's where your mindset is, and I love that 353 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: for you, But I want you to give her the 354 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: grace in the conversation to make her feel safe enough 355 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: to tell you, baby, I don't feel I don't know, 356 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Maybe she don't even 357 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: know how to communicate that. You know, because you always 358 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: come home on ten. You know, I'm not saying you're 359 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: trying to knock her head off. Don't get don't get 360 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: that mixed up the listeners either. 361 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. 362 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: He's coming home violently verbally attacking her and shit, no, no, 363 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: no, no no, but she's very fragile. She just had another baby. 364 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: She's very fragile. Treated that way all right. I'm not 365 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: saying coddle her and make excuses and all of that, 366 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: but you still have to understand we're very fragile. You 367 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: want we give birth and PTSD. I think that's it. 368 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: That is very real. That is very real. I just 369 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: saw a video the other day of a woman screaming 370 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: to the top of her lungs at her baby in 371 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: her baby's face. 372 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: I hate you, I hate you. The baby was crying. 373 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: What was the husband doing recording his wife doing that 374 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: shit instead of removing the baby, removing the fucking baby 375 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: from the room. And then when he posted it, he 376 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: captioned it, my wife has pt AS the I mean, 377 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: she has post traumatic disorder. She has she's not she's 378 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: not been well. So why the fuck are you recording 379 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: or posting or putting on the internet embarrassing her? Probably 380 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: not enough, fucking right, mind. She was a home mom 381 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: as well, a stay at home mom as well. I 382 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: totally agree that you don't even want your kids to 383 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: be in school? Is she the one to teach them? 384 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: A curriculum? This is what we got also understand, all right? 385 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: Is she the one to do that? Or would you 386 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: recommend that you guys get what like a nanny tutor 387 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: or something, somebody to help her, somebody to be there 388 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: with her. That she had friends? Does she have somebody 389 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: that she can talk to? She just probably needs to 390 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: open up to somebody. She probably feels suffocated. 391 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. How old is she? 392 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: Like, give me a little bit more feedback on it. 393 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm not beating you up. I'm not 394 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: beating you down. 395 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: Brother. I actually really do love that you came to 396 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: me with this story. All right. This is the first 397 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: time I've actually gotten a story like this. It's very 398 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: relatable and it's very real. 399 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: I just want you to understand, like I understand that 400 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: you need her, but she needs you too. You understand 401 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. She needs you and the babies need y'all. 402 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: So y'all got to make sure y'all straight for these babies. 403 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, I know you don't want to leave her. 404 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: I can tell you love her, I can tell you 405 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: hold her to a higher standard. I can tell no, 406 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: you don't need no motherfucking side piece honey, because before 407 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: you know it, you're gonna have to take care of. 408 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: That one too. 409 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: Don't play with it, all right, because what you're doing 410 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 1: for your wife, the side piece gonna look up and 411 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: then you know, or your girl, main girl sidepiece gonna 412 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: look up like, oh sure we can take care of me. 413 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 2: No, bitch, keep it moving. 414 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: He got two children and he got he got a 415 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: home to fix right now. So no side pieces ain't 416 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: never the way to go unless you motherfucking leave her. 417 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: And you ain't trying to do that because you told 418 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: me so. I want you to take into consideration that 419 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: we need y'all to we do. And I know it 420 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: feels like you're fighting the world, that you got a 421 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: lot going on already. I know what it feels like. 422 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, ugh, But you can 423 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: be her rock. Look that's what partners do. You need 424 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: me to hold this motherfucking house down. I need you 425 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: to lift me up and get to the get get 426 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: to what's wrong with me. 427 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: You gotta live in her world too, boo. 428 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: Like I said, take them two days off, you can 429 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: probably take one day off and see what the fuck 430 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: she go through, all right? 431 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: You know now, if she is just lazy. 432 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 433 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you gotta make a motherfucker get. 434 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: A job, you know, Yeah, get on out there and 435 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: get on out there. I don't know if y'all have 436 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 1: active parents or you know, family support. All right, take 437 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: them babies to my I mean, pay her a couple 438 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: of dollars or whatever. 439 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 440 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: You go get a job and see what it is. 441 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: See how it is out here. That's if she is lazy. 442 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: But you don't know. We don't know, So look, figure 443 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: it out. Try your best to figure it out. I 444 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: know you tie it, but she probably is too, all right. 445 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: I love you, shit, I love her too, shuit. Make 446 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: sure you check back in with me. I'm glad that 447 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: you send me this story. And just like that, that 448 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: took up the whole episode. But that was a good 449 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: goddamn story, y'all. 450 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: All right? 451 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: Good, and I'm gonna keep on working on my reading 452 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: for this brother. 453 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: Make sure you get your tickets if you have not yet, 454 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: for the second annual Black Effect Podcast Festival, where I 455 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: will be fixing mess on stage live again. Like I 456 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: said before, I will be pulling people, unprompted, unprovoked, out 457 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: of the audience. To fix your mess on the spot. 458 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: That's how I do it best. 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