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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's not a Wednesday. It's not and
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Speaker 1: would come out here with some brim hat. But that's
Speaker 1: what honey, This is not an ordinary way. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: the gays are out of play. We are naked from
Speaker 1: the waist up. Baby, we're shirtless here, we're all drinking water. Yes,
Speaker 1: can I quickly say about asked Wednesday? Um? I also
Speaker 1: teach improv and a student do you want that is
Speaker 1: one of your credits to What I want to say
Speaker 1: is what a student said. I asked him what shows
Speaker 1: they saw on They list the shows and one student
Speaker 1: was like, I saw Whole Wednesday died for a long time.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, we got to rename on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: I actually didn't get that. It was a play on
Speaker 1: ASH Wednesday. Too later, wait, too much later, a fill
Speaker 1: in show on ASH Wednesday. So it was only named
Speaker 1: that as a joke, and then we kept doing it.
Speaker 1: I love it, asked Wednesday is elite? Get up there
Speaker 1: and do a little improv? Can I say that I
Speaker 1: would pay good money to see a show called just
Speaker 1: Hole with the word hole in the title. It's such
Speaker 1: a good I mean the band hole. My brain went
Speaker 1: to two spots when you said whole with soccer? What
Speaker 1: the author of holes? Okay, no, you know already anyway
Speaker 1: over the mic, Over the mic te um, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: can't give it all to the podcast. Brandon Scott Jones
Speaker 1: is gonna have to ask me for some of it,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to get some in person tea
Speaker 1: on that one. Anyway, I thought of Kelly Clarkson has
Speaker 1: a song called Hole on her album My December and
Speaker 1: the chorus goes like this all inside of me many holes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is one. I mean she only thinks about one.
Speaker 1: So that's where my middle school I mostly listened to
Speaker 1: contemporary Christian music, mostly alternative contemporary Christian. There's a band
Speaker 1: called Audio Journaline and they had a song called God
Speaker 1: Shaped Hole Ship that's horrible. Every heart has a God
Speaker 1: shaped hole. No, no, you would get yes hunt ever
Speaker 1: in the ble, So were you a big fan of
Speaker 1: So this actually is a good segue because we usually
Speaker 1: ask our guests what culture has shaped them, LIKEATI brought
Speaker 1: you forth into the world, Like when did you know
Speaker 1: culture was for you? Um? And I would say josh like,
Speaker 1: you do have this upbringing where you do? You are
Speaker 1: seemed to be quite influenced or aware of a lot
Speaker 1: of Christian rock music. Eric has had a similar Christian
Speaker 1: bringing this. I wasn't as into the bands as Joshua was,
Speaker 1: Like josh and Corey Palmer can sort of toss off
Speaker 1: jars of Clay songs and I only knew some of
Speaker 1: that stuff because I was very unhiped. Sure, so I
Speaker 1: was a show tune kid, right, So is this song
Speaker 1: for you? Remember that song that was like how can
Speaker 1: only imagine. I love that surrounded by your glory. When
Speaker 1: will my old me Jesus Josh. I know tons of
Speaker 1: hymns and all that stuff, and I will raise you up.
Speaker 1: I will raise you up on the last day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and even and even then like the modern like
Speaker 1: shout to the Lords, But those aren't like the hip No,
Speaker 1: that's praise music. Yeah, like I know praise music, and
Speaker 1: I know like him, but I don't know. Like that's all.
Speaker 1: That's talk. That's the stuff that stays in the church. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the cool stuff. This is for the cheap
Speaker 1: grand Cherokee. Yes, did you have a grand Cherokee? I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: ninety six nine five green. Oh my god, that's funny.
Speaker 1: I have a question. Wasn't there there was a hip
Speaker 1: There was a hip hop group that was hip and
Speaker 1: Christian and what were they called Talk is maybe DC
Speaker 1: Talk was hip hop and they moved into a rap
Speaker 1: got it? I mean, I mean into a rock space.
Speaker 1: But they all started and they were hip hop. You
Speaker 1: know who was a Christian artist like looky Stacy Rico,
Speaker 1: remember Stacy Rico? Oh my god, that was Because you
Speaker 1: guys will love this. DC Talks hit off their first album,
Speaker 1: which was their like actual like sort of like we're
Speaker 1: the Beastie Boys, but Christian, what's this song called I
Speaker 1: Don't Want It? And it would go like, ah, don't
Speaker 1: want it, I don't want it, want it, I don't
Speaker 1: want it, and want your sex phone now so they
Speaker 1: can repeat, repeat, and then I don't want it till
Speaker 1: we take them that I had that like early nineties
Speaker 1: dip but like, no, sup Up. The Scoop is big
Speaker 1: is a big part of music at that time, of
Speaker 1: the big part of culture, but then they became a
Speaker 1: rock group. The second about being a Jesus freak? Should
Speaker 1: I talk about culture that shape me? Sure? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that is the culture that but that's a
Speaker 1: part of you. Certainly I would say, okay, So Josh,
Speaker 1: what were your because we're on Josh right now. Then
Speaker 1: we're going to move over to Aaron Love that the
Speaker 1: first time we have two guests, first time we have
Speaker 1: two guests, I mean we're overwhelmed. Watched the clock watch,
Speaker 1: So Josh, like, what were things that? Like, you know,
Speaker 1: a little eleven twelve thirteen year old Josh Harp So
Speaker 1: was that because I feel like that was the like
Speaker 1: sheltered experience of that time. And then I feel like
Speaker 1: moving into high school when I was like felt like
Speaker 1: I was opening up. It was like it was Dave
Speaker 1: Matthews band and fish and really yeah, that was when
Speaker 1: I was like, oh I get this, Like like I
Speaker 1: like the contemporary Christian stuff as a young person, but
Speaker 1: I think the like jam band scene in high schools
Speaker 1: when I was like, oh, I finally get who I
Speaker 1: am and I would like want to go see concerts
Speaker 1: and love it. Um, let's let's branch down to other
Speaker 1: media books, TV, movie Wow. And you think at that
Speaker 1: age of that formative period for the show. Well, um,
Speaker 1: Aaron and I have talked about this right that you
Speaker 1: read a lot about with the Christie. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: still do full camp. You know, people that are into
Speaker 1: Agatha Christie are really into Agatha Christie. But also in
Speaker 1: Aaron shares this too, I also in that period before,
Speaker 1: like the contemporary Christian phase, all of those left behind books.
Speaker 1: Now I didn't read saw the movie the first terrified
Speaker 1: those books. It's a rapture story. Harry Potter fans or
Speaker 1: were the parents like saying no, Harry, I was big
Speaker 1: Harry Potter. But in high school, like not as a child,
Speaker 1: not a Potter fan, but not because the parents said no,
Speaker 1: but because it just never happened, just never happened, Josh,
Speaker 1: not a fantasy, not Jonasy queen fantasy. Neither of my
Speaker 1: suity loves that ship. Like should you love Harry Potter?
Speaker 1: I love Harry Potter. Have all the scarves from Harry
Speaker 1: Potter World. I've been there several times, and I make
Speaker 1: sure I bought each scarve so I can wear the
Speaker 1: kind of a four houses for for the houses. So
Speaker 1: it's that shape culture because here's a non fantasy person
Speaker 1: knowing that there are four houses in a fictional names
Speaker 1: are disgusted rule number thirteen of culture, Harry Potter. That's
Speaker 1: neber thirteen, number thirteen. Um, but yes, I feel that
Speaker 1: you can wear a different scarf for your different feelings. Sure, yeah, well, Aaron,
Speaker 1: let's move on to you. What are some formative pieces
Speaker 1: of culture? Um as a as a youth, because you
Speaker 1: said like eleven and those shows like like Animaniacs was
Speaker 1: definitely likeuch for me into like books at that age.
Speaker 1: It was into the goose Bumps, the animorphs music. I
Speaker 1: think I was like full show tunes then and so
Speaker 1: like original Broadway cast recording of the music Man, you know,
Speaker 1: like was very That's what I did. I didn't get
Speaker 1: into like real music quote unquote until high school and
Speaker 1: even then pretty late show tun kit um and then
Speaker 1: in high school I was like I would get into
Speaker 1: like Ben Harper, yeah, and the Beatles, like truly discovered
Speaker 1: the Beatles and was like songs I alod Been Harper,
Speaker 1: even though I was into all the jam bands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ben Harper is a little Ben Harper was less truly
Speaker 1: like Jammy than those other guys, and he was very
Speaker 1: like it was super sad songs, which I was like,
Speaker 1: very intun it. So I'm gonna say it. You guys
Speaker 1: like like boy music, Oh definitely, Like I could sing
Speaker 1: a lot like classics, that's not boy music. I think
Speaker 1: I would have been into all that ship had I
Speaker 1: known it was out there. I remember, like when I
Speaker 1: discovered like Rhapsody or whatever the music sharing things at
Speaker 1: that time, I listened to a lot of like I've
Speaker 1: realized there were show tunes or that, or that there
Speaker 1: was like more than like Hairspray of the musical that
Speaker 1: my parents took me to, and I was like, what
Speaker 1: is this? I think I didn't well, I didn't come
Speaker 1: out to like end of college, but I think I
Speaker 1: didn't even get into what are like normally gay culture
Speaker 1: touchstones of culture until college. And the first I would
Speaker 1: say was York School was the thing I look back on,
Speaker 1: and that's the first like sort of gay thing, and
Speaker 1: that's a good one. And then I think my movie
Speaker 1: thing like cinema culture touchstone, and this is also very gay.
Speaker 1: Is Betty Davis to me is like huge, like discovering
Speaker 1: Benny Davis and like going fault like get when Netflix
Speaker 1: was new, like renting all of her movies, Like I've
Speaker 1: seen she made like movies and I've seen like forty
Speaker 1: five of them, and there are some that should never
Speaker 1: be watched because they made make like nine movies a
Speaker 1: year back then they didn't even want to be in them.
Speaker 1: But I would just like slop her over anything she
Speaker 1: was in. Have you heard about the new show Feud
Speaker 1: Ryan Murphy, Ryan Murphy's newest satanic thing that I can't
Speaker 1: wait to watch? Brilliant Susan Surrandon, Jessica Lang playing Joan
Speaker 1: Crawford on the best line from that feud, I didn't
Speaker 1: love to quote this, and I love this so um.
Speaker 1: Joan Crawford dies and Betty Davis was asked to remark
Speaker 1: on Joan Crawford's death, and she goes, they say, you
Speaker 1: should never speak ill of the dead. Only good. Joan
Speaker 1: Crawford is dead. Good, brilliant, Yes, perfect. Aaron has a
Speaker 1: framed photo of Betty Davis is Life Magazine in Betty
Speaker 1: Davis Perfect. Everybody watch all about it? Just check it out.
Speaker 1: Great screenplay, great act classic Josh, do we do we
Speaker 1: get to a movie for you? Do you have one?
Speaker 1: Off the top of your head? We don't have. Now.
Speaker 1: I know you are influenced, as am I by those
Speaker 1: Charlie Kaufman movies. Yes, I would say that I don't
Speaker 1: remember them. But Fraternal Sunshine not even that one. As
Speaker 1: much adaptation, I would tell you now that Seenectic in
Speaker 1: New York is like the great this movie to me,
Speaker 1: But adaptation and Malkovich more so, things that got into
Speaker 1: I love Malkovich and not knocking it but not knocking
Speaker 1: it but not You're not his rom com. Underrated, underrated, amazing,
Speaker 1: amazing actor is Katherine Keener, Oh my god, come forward
Speaker 1: a big she had like a big come forward like
Speaker 1: post Malkovich like into fourty year old virgin like she
Speaker 1: was she was in a lot of movies. But yes,
Speaker 1: I agree, she's completely you know, a rule number ninety
Speaker 1: of culture, Kakeer is underrated. Oh that's it? Wow, all right,
Speaker 1: Well she is a rule, she's a rule rule of culture. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, famously, I've never seen like almost any old movies.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've never seen the sound of music. And
Speaker 1: I get a lot of ship for that. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen a lot of old movies. I've seen this on
Speaker 1: of music. But I'm with you, I haven't seen a
Speaker 1: lot of ton of like movies. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: see a ton of movies. Correct, I would say, I
Speaker 1: find I read so many more books than movies. Yes
Speaker 1: they're long, yeah, movies and TVs, but so are books.
Speaker 1: But I think I can chunk books. You know, with
Speaker 1: movies that you prescribed time period in length for you
Speaker 1: to sit there and consume it. It's like I know
Speaker 1: where I'll be emotionally in an hour. And that's why, famously,
Speaker 1: I have not watched a lot of TV shows. Famously,
Speaker 1: even even despite the fact that TV shows are famously
Speaker 1: shorter than right. But Aaron and I have said this
Speaker 1: not in the culture we live in now, because it's
Speaker 1: not like, oh, you've seen one episode of Breaking Bad.
Speaker 1: It's like that's not enough to these people. So again,
Speaker 1: it is a thing where, um, you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: to tell you to watch a movie or read a book,
Speaker 1: that's an afternoon. But people are mad at you for
Speaker 1: not watching literally a week and a half worth of TV.
Speaker 1: You don't understand where that's where it is. They're like that,
Speaker 1: And then people are even still they're like, watch it,
Speaker 1: skip season two and six, but watch. It's like, if
Speaker 1: you are telling me to skip entire like fourteen hours,
Speaker 1: that's why I don't watch West Wing. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: West Wing. Love Aaron's Organ, love them all, but everyone's like,
Speaker 1: he gets bad, and I'm like, if it gets bad,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do don't ill only review, like
Speaker 1: I will only recommend TV and be like I can
Speaker 1: never strongly recommend TV. I can always say I liked it.
Speaker 1: If you catch yourself sick, watch like, there's never I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna tell anyone they have to devout themselves to
Speaker 1: the TV. She's sure, even the ones I love. There's
Speaker 1: one exception though, and that it's what we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about later today. But like with drag Race, but
Speaker 1: with drag Race simply already like exactly even then there
Speaker 1: are it has become a show that's eating itself in
Speaker 1: some ways. It's gay, so it's self referential. And but
Speaker 1: it's even now self referential not just to gay culture,
Speaker 1: but to the culture of drag races, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it makes inside jokes. So I do
Speaker 1: think it still is. It's a little trickier now to
Speaker 1: just like started a season and you have someone guiding
Speaker 1: you through, you could enjoy it. You just would enjoy
Speaker 1: things less because I started with season four or something
Speaker 1: and just and it wasn't bad. It was There's a
Speaker 1: lot there's like traditions. You don't know about snatch games,
Speaker 1: so what we're getting ahead of osels, but like you
Speaker 1: don't know about certain things. You're just like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: watching it, and then you go back and watching like,
Speaker 1: oh there were jokes that I missed. I just this
Speaker 1: year that RuPaul has been heavy on the Digley Kelly
Speaker 1: and a references. Yes, this year, I think it does
Speaker 1: occur a lot of a lot of her stuff. I
Speaker 1: think because it was hundred queens. He was like leaning
Speaker 1: into it a lot this year because the legacy, Consider
Speaker 1: your legacy, Consider your legacy. Consider the snake is eating
Speaker 1: its own tail. I do agree. I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: is bad, saying more and more than that show is.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but it has also Bob is
Speaker 1: now the cornerstone of that first queen raised by the show.
Speaker 1: I love that. I didn't even realize that. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's get into the show. I mean, like they're doing
Speaker 1: a lot more jokes, even about literally like Bob's one
Speaker 1: of his best jokes of the season was like cute, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that was great. I mean, Bob the Drag Queen,
Speaker 1: for those of you who do not know, has one
Speaker 1: season eight of RuPaul's Drag Race spoiler. You know, Bo
Speaker 1: people were coming for Bow and I have one question
Speaker 1: that they aired on the West Coast at the same
Speaker 1: time or they had to wait three hours. But that's
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I get because there were West
Speaker 1: Coast people comments. If you care about a live show
Speaker 1: and it's like and you know about West don't you
Speaker 1: have to get off? I have gotten off even when
Speaker 1: it's not aired, Like I don't go on Facebook when
Speaker 1: we went on when we knew were going to miss
Speaker 1: that episode where we're in Florida. I'm not going on
Speaker 1: Facebook for a day. If I don't want spoiled, I
Speaker 1: do the same thing. People are stupid. You're the comments
Speaker 1: that I got from one David Craig, whom I love,
Speaker 1: he said, even West Coast, I'll name him West Coast, Yes, Craig,
Speaker 1: West Coast. Didn't know they're in l A right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said. By and Brick Cray are by co c famously. Um,
Speaker 1: he will anyone understand a word of this podcast? We're
Speaker 1: going to say brand he's our one listener essentially. No,
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of listeners. I have listened, honey,
Speaker 1: number we have listeners. David Craig said, Um, spoiled, spoiled
Speaker 1: two seasons in a row. Well, Katia Gate was something
Speaker 1: I took a very personally own up to that. In fact,
Speaker 1: I did. I did dub it Katya Gate. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: no one had used gate as a suff excit, not
Speaker 1: not that I certainly not that I had heard. I
Speaker 1: just thought, let's put it a second, let's stick a
Speaker 1: gate on the end of this and see what happened.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about Gates. At the time, I
Speaker 1: wasn't even I was. I was with Josh Sharpe at
Speaker 1: Barracouta when when she was eliminated. Do you remember this, Josh,
Speaker 1: because this was our first time venturing out exactly, and
Speaker 1: that's when we learned. I think that, as we've referenced before,
Speaker 1: the the response of Ginger by the community we were
Speaker 1: shoting Ginger was popular and we never be living in
Speaker 1: a button but not a button a bubble about friends.
Speaker 1: But this was immediately after Katia was eliminated. I was
Speaker 1: a Barracouta. I was distraught, and so I treated just
Speaker 1: you know, something true to it was something and that
Speaker 1: I needed to it said no, Katya, and everyone knew
Speaker 1: what you were talking about. And honestly, as a friend,
Speaker 1: you were absolutely that time you were in the wrong,
Speaker 1: but not not this last night. But what's the difference
Speaker 1: again for West Coast, I would say that was still
Speaker 1: and that it's like, if you really don't want to spoiled,
Speaker 1: don't check. I think you're expecting a certain great spirit
Speaker 1: of like maybe give me. But when like he texted it,
Speaker 1: as it had aired right like at the Corna, it
Speaker 1: had no no No No, No, I hadn't even like the
Speaker 1: episode hadn't even ended. So I'm thinking if I went
Speaker 1: on and this did not get spoiled for me, But
Speaker 1: I'm thinking as a person like I went online, like
Speaker 1: maybe someone's not even eliminated yet. Right, you have we're
Speaker 1: talking about literally two minutes before it ends and two
Speaker 1: minutes after in this so you think that is enough
Speaker 1: for that to be well, I just think the distinction
Speaker 1: is in the fact that it is announced. I agree
Speaker 1: with you, yes, explain, I'm not disagreeing. I just want
Speaker 1: you to articulate this is it's a cultural event and
Speaker 1: therefore like you're getting new cultural information and super Bowl. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm taking this a little too seriously, but it's
Speaker 1: just like we have a new queen of RuPaul's drag race.
Speaker 1: That is something that is an announcement, that is a
Speaker 1: piece of fact, especially like for people that care and
Speaker 1: so learning that. And also there's just not as much
Speaker 1: suspense intention in the finale I feel is that's not
Speaker 1: I think like Broncos win the Super Bowl, No one's
Speaker 1: like you fucker, like you spoiled the Super Bowl three,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, it's not like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't spoil one of the three of them, you have,
Speaker 1: I would have never guessed. Yeah, I think because it's
Speaker 1: live too. I know the finale is pre taped, but
Speaker 1: the we they don't know into like bobbed and no
Speaker 1: until air, So I think, like that makes it feel
Speaker 1: like the super Bowl. To me, it's like it's live,
Speaker 1: whereas the tape, the Katia thing, that's a pre taped episode,
Speaker 1: so it feels more like give me a minute. A
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of differences in distinct Wow, I
Speaker 1: really liked Unpack that. I don't watch much reality other
Speaker 1: than rupose. The reality shows have the same East coast
Speaker 1: West coast problems the major networks. I would say certainly
Speaker 1: that they do, because I mean, that's just how television is.
Speaker 1: I mean, but I would say, yeah, if you're feeling
Speaker 1: passionately about Survivor, because any of them air at the
Speaker 1: same time on the coast to a Survivor does not
Speaker 1: know because because like American Idol and some of those
Speaker 1: that were live must have they did, the oscars do
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But like it feels weird to
Speaker 1: put Survivor on at five pm on a Wednesday when
Speaker 1: it's on h p M. I don't think I air
Speaker 1: at five believe the West Coast when it was big,
Speaker 1: probably towards the end now, but like and it's heyday,
Speaker 1: You're probably right. I've always thought that must be so
Speaker 1: strange to live on the West Coast and watch Lives.
Speaker 1: Maybe it didn't, but maybe they showed the live broadcast
Speaker 1: light there. I just would have guessed they did. But
Speaker 1: the finales were taped in Los Angeles though for American
Speaker 1: idol um, yes they were. But they do it at
Speaker 1: five o'clock. Yeah, you're right, they do, unless unless they
Speaker 1: are only showing it live for the East coast. But
Speaker 1: why why are we like um like because money and honey,
Speaker 1: because great and the time you ain't gonna get people
Speaker 1: watching at five pm? That's right, they don't give a
Speaker 1: shit about I mean, they need to air it app
Speaker 1: tape it live at five pm West Coast so that
Speaker 1: East Coast gets in the range. Josh slipping on his
Speaker 1: l A knowledge right here. But wait, I want to
Speaker 1: talk more about reality TV in general, even though I
Speaker 1: love Survivor steer it, honey, No, they're steer. The discussion
Speaker 1: of spoiling is interesting. I agree with you. But now
Speaker 1: we're talking about, but I want I want to talk
Speaker 1: about exhausted. You know what I mean. Let's do a
Speaker 1: nipple check before we talk to there are shockingly harry,
Speaker 1: I think I have the ha love well, yours are
Speaker 1: the longest I have. Not fifteen seconds ago, someone said
Speaker 1: let's get back to drag Rice. But then we start
Speaker 1: talking about bodies before we get back to drag race,
Speaker 1: and as an interlude, I would I would like us
Speaker 1: to check our nipples. Okay, okay, I'm getting a little hard. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a little chili in here, but it feels but
Speaker 1: it feels good. I love clothes. I'm warmed by culture
Speaker 1: like I get. So here's a question, and after this,
Speaker 1: I do want to get right back to the drives.
Speaker 1: But I'm really interested in this question. When you're at
Speaker 1: home and you're, you know, filling your oats, um, did
Speaker 1: you go less close on the bottom half of your
Speaker 1: body or less closed on the top half of your body?
Speaker 1: Because I do shirt underwear or just fully naked when
Speaker 1: I'm like hanging out at home and I've noticed that
Speaker 1: my boyfriend does the same thing shirt underwear, although he
Speaker 1: he just likes to walk around and underwear allow. What
Speaker 1: do you guys do? What's your state of hanging out?
Speaker 1: I shed my lower half and so there's as far
Speaker 1: as mobility goes, as far as walking place to place,
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's so much more comfortable. What about you, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm more of it, Like would wear the shirt not
Speaker 1: the pants than where the pants and not the shirt? Right?
Speaker 1: I would say same though also often shirtless, but more
Speaker 1: commonly naked. I'm not often naked. You have roommates rooms, yeah,
Speaker 1: but famously some some some you roommates Falter shirtless all
Speaker 1: the time? Is the time? Kidding me? Yeah? But he's
Speaker 1: at his home and it's not like I guess at
Speaker 1: this point, like you're in your underwear. You know That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let him be, go ahead attack him.
Speaker 1: I'm not attacking James Faltter. James, if you're listening, he's not.
Speaker 1: It's not. Michael. Wolf's also cute, and so is that
Speaker 1: lesbian that you slip with your guys, both of them
Speaker 1: less shirtless Falter the lesbian. What's your problem? I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with James. I love you so much.
Speaker 1: James and I have have really bonded quite quite a
Speaker 1: bit last year. Um, you know what, I feel some
Speaker 1: frustration as a as a single gay man that James
Speaker 1: is very good at, you know, getting all the gays
Speaker 1: riled up. And it's not even just the gays anyone.
Speaker 1: He has a legacy. And just so everyone knows, Bowen
Speaker 1: is furiously masturbated right now, I think it's it's effort less.
Speaker 1: Isn't that sad though? The straight guys that really want
Speaker 1: the attention, not if I want to give it to him.
Speaker 1: It's not sad to me, but nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 1: You don't care. I don't care. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't care. But here's the thing that frustrates me
Speaker 1: a lot, especially when I was single and I would
Speaker 1: meet somebody and just feeling like an intense flirtation with
Speaker 1: them and then finding out that they were straight. It's
Speaker 1: not fun to me. It's fun to touch a waste,
Speaker 1: touch a stomach, touching arm and know that it's fine
Speaker 1: even with a gay guy if it's like we're not
Speaker 1: actually going to go like have sex. I don't mind
Speaker 1: touching aways, touching a stomach, touch I would call myself
Speaker 1: sign alert co sign. So when someone else is a flirt,
Speaker 1: I say, thank god. But then but then we see
Speaker 1: some of those men hook up with our gay friends
Speaker 1: on the stage of ca mat cage match, and then
Speaker 1: everything changed. That was a hot kiss. It truly was
Speaker 1: like a real nice kiss. It was that's culture. That
Speaker 1: is culture n seventy eight, just culture, kiss culture, kiss
Speaker 1: culture on the open mouth. Let's get back to drag race.
Speaker 1: Why not? I feel like minutes well, can I say
Speaker 1: talking about no, We're it's okay, We're following the exact
Speaker 1: pattern our episodes usually go, which is like a lot
Speaker 1: of bullshit, and then like six minutes of what are
Speaker 1: actually I fucking love cheet and honestly I want her.
Speaker 1: I have serious problems with Naomi being in the top
Speaker 1: three and not che a little. I have problems with it.
Speaker 1: I don't have serious problems with it, but I did
Speaker 1: want for cheat Sheet to be in the top three.
Speaker 1: Josh and I saw that final episode together where they
Speaker 1: were about to announce the top three and eliminate Cheecht.
Speaker 1: But there was a moment and I really believed this
Speaker 1: was going to happen where I was like, what if
Speaker 1: they do a top four this year? I had smelled
Speaker 1: that come into especially since they did the double elimination
Speaker 1: and never like brought back like they never did you
Speaker 1: both chant you both which I thought of it was,
Speaker 1: I think, neither Cheat nor Naomi, we're going to win.
Speaker 1: In the topic of course, even if was in I went,
Speaker 1: but she still had a story. I disagree. I think
Speaker 1: CHEECHI either comes in fourth or first. There's no way.
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know. I you know, I don't
Speaker 1: let him speak if I don't know if this is true.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel as though, actually, if you really
Speaker 1: look at the season, it wasn't the most you mention
Speaker 1: was paid to cheat che That was the biggest arc
Speaker 1: A little bit was the hero's journey of Cheach she had.
Speaker 1: She had the biggest edited journey. I agree, And maybe
Speaker 1: Kim Chi. You know what I will say. I feel
Speaker 1: like Kim's should would have Stid a better chance of
Speaker 1: winning if she would have told her mom, which is
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, so someone so someone, someone at
Speaker 1: the A V Club wrote a recap of the finale
Speaker 1: last night, and they had this whole paragraph where they
Speaker 1: were like, you know, when Rue was interviewing Kim, she
Speaker 1: after her number at the crowning. You know, she kind
Speaker 1: of went into her mother and the fact that Kim
Speaker 1: had had still not made progress cost her the crown.
Speaker 1: So for everyone that doesn't know this, Kim, she is
Speaker 1: not out to her mother as a gay man and
Speaker 1: does her mother does not know that Kim she does
Speaker 1: drag and does not know the extension of her talent
Speaker 1: or her and her mother is a Korean American. So
Speaker 1: there is like a cultural more of a cultural difference,
Speaker 1: and that is the thing. Every culture has their own
Speaker 1: shitty way of reckoning with with homosexuality, that's rule number six, UM.
Speaker 1: But with with Asians like listen, just speaking for myself
Speaker 1: and for people that I know, I've never seen it.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it work out in a way that
Speaker 1: uh not everyone is extremely extremely It's it's not an
Speaker 1: extremely painful process for everything. It has never been portrayed
Speaker 1: in a positive accepting like in terms of like the
Speaker 1: family accepting the out day um Asian person. And it's true,
Speaker 1: and it's Kim's choice to not Well, I'm saying I
Speaker 1: think it's fucked up. I don't think TV. I think
Speaker 1: I think if she would have I think Rue likes
Speaker 1: that TV. And I'm not saying she would have want
Speaker 1: I really truly think it was Bob season, Like I don't.
Speaker 1: I honestly think we'll look back on it and be like,
Speaker 1: oh no, one staid a chance, um, the way we
Speaker 1: do with bioncan a door even though it felt like
Speaker 1: a door might win, and then you look back on it,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh no, beyond like walked in the door
Speaker 1: in one. I feel like that's how we'll look at Bob.
Speaker 1: But I do think it would I as gross as
Speaker 1: it is, I think that's a negative thing. I think
Speaker 1: that's the TV issue part about drags that if Kim
Speaker 1: had told her mom and had like a sob story
Speaker 1: on the finale, it would have been more like you're
Speaker 1: the queen, you know, like which you are sort of
Speaker 1: pausing that Asian is the hardest culture to come out in.
Speaker 1: Not no, I know what I'm just saying, because that
Speaker 1: we are creating I'm not disagreeing, but that we're creating
Speaker 1: this sort of like pissing contest because it's not easy
Speaker 1: to come out and being black. And you know, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like every culture has their own terrible
Speaker 1: way of considering like how to treat like you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're they're they're gay youth population whatever. I think
Speaker 1: that And this is me speaking without the knowledge of
Speaker 1: really what I'm talking about, But this is something that
Speaker 1: I like to pose. It is that like there's just
Speaker 1: a complete lack of education in a lot of traditional
Speaker 1: Asian heritage about homosexuality, and whereas like I think, maybe
Speaker 1: am I out of turn saying no, uh no, you're
Speaker 1: you're not. I just don't think I'm I'm a white man.
Speaker 1: And this is something in a recent one that doesn't
Speaker 1: know Aaron, Josh and I are white. Bowen is an
Speaker 1: Asian identify as it's important to identify everything. I'm not
Speaker 1: joking in a recent anti racist seminar we went to
Speaker 1: that was paid for by the U c B community,
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say thank you, I would say,
Speaker 1: and again I'm fully prepared to say I'm waiting into
Speaker 1: a territory where I might say something that's uninformed, but
Speaker 1: that's allowed. But that's allowed. You have to go to
Speaker 1: these places. I'm sometimes surprised about the element where drag
Speaker 1: you feel like would be a hard sell in the
Speaker 1: drag in the Asian community, because how much of there
Speaker 1: is like a tradition of ky and cross dressing and
Speaker 1: theater that embraces gender. Fu Manila Luzon, a queen who
Speaker 1: was a runner up season three and was in All Stars.
Speaker 1: Um she went and remember where not the film. She
Speaker 1: went to Asia somewhere and was like like is she
Speaker 1: Philip huge? Shea and she went And that's why when
Speaker 1: she did like a horribly stereotypical Asian dialect on the show,
Speaker 1: people were like, well, well, let a slide and she
Speaker 1: won that challenge, but it really was like the one
Speaker 1: where you're like, um, like Mickey Rooney. But anyway, she
Speaker 1: went and was like huge there and like there. I
Speaker 1: saw videos of her on Instagram because that to me
Speaker 1: also again as a white man might be saying something
Speaker 1: horribly racist, seems like the fucking Asian community would like
Speaker 1: go gagat for drag totally, and I feel like if
Speaker 1: it was very visual, yeah and they let like that
Speaker 1: is true. When I went to Taiwan, it was like
Speaker 1: everything is animated and like the subway adds where it's
Speaker 1: like don't eat on the subway is like Mario and Luigi.
Speaker 1: It's like it's and it's like they they like they
Speaker 1: love um like icons and icon not graffiti and stuff
Speaker 1: here's what here's what you do for for all of
Speaker 1: those countries. You dial down the I don't know, the
Speaker 1: the the puritanical like mentality that all of those all
Speaker 1: of those countries are coming out of. And then and
Speaker 1: of course it's like the like they get out of
Speaker 1: the matrix, like oh my god, everything is gay and
Speaker 1: everything is great, and like everything that is gay is great,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I don't know. I think I'm there's there's
Speaker 1: catching up to do in that part of the world.
Speaker 1: But for Kim, back to Kim, I think she has
Speaker 1: the right and anyone has the right of any culture
Speaker 1: come out whenever they want to negotiate, to negotiate what
Speaker 1: they want to communicate to their parents, but when they
Speaker 1: want to show on TV, totally agree with that. And
Speaker 1: this is me speaking to TV. But this is why
Speaker 1: I've said before. It to me, Bob is the clearer
Speaker 1: choice though, and that doesn't that still is like some
Speaker 1: weird factor of it where Kim cheese journey it wasn't
Speaker 1: really about that is about more than other things, was
Speaker 1: sort of the typical drag queen journey of like I'm
Speaker 1: learning to love myself, like oh my god, I should
Speaker 1: embrace what these things about me, whereas Bob's really was
Speaker 1: like because it's not that Bob didn't deal with that.
Speaker 1: Bob talked about like I was like a dark skinned
Speaker 1: kid growing up in you know wherever, right, but he
Speaker 1: like came in a sort of more like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I'm I've dealt with that. Now. What I want to
Speaker 1: bring is what drag can do for the world, which
Speaker 1: is like, whoa, there's not really been a queen on
Speaker 1: the show. That's fully articulated that. I was trying to
Speaker 1: think of all the winners, and I don't think any
Speaker 1: of them really made a case for that before. Now
Speaker 1: they selfish they make the case for why I am
Speaker 1: the best this season, which which they should, and sometimes
Speaker 1: why I'd had personal growth this season, which Bob also did.
Speaker 1: But Bob was like really going like this is what
Speaker 1: I will do with this, which I wondered, that's going
Speaker 1: to be a new thing. By the end, Bob was
Speaker 1: the winner. I just I just disagree, like in thinking
Speaker 1: about what I said about she, When you historically look
Speaker 1: back at the show, it's not always the person who
Speaker 1: quote unquote won the season that walks away with the crown.
Speaker 1: I don't think you could look at the season that
Speaker 1: Jinks mont Soon was on and say, well, she had
Speaker 1: one that season. It was clear. Yeah, there was a
Speaker 1: feeling that she should win, I think, and she had
Speaker 1: deserved to win. But I think that she had many
Speaker 1: documents struggles on that. Yeah, and I think with her
Speaker 1: it was like she was not good at looks, but
Speaker 1: she slaid the challenges because there were so many comedy
Speaker 1: or singing or acting challenges that season, and she is
Speaker 1: very She's like a you know, like it can't be
Speaker 1: cabaret queen. Like she's very good at that. So I
Speaker 1: do think that that they would have kicked her off
Speaker 1: normally in many other seasons because it's like, oh that
Speaker 1: she like, look at her on the Runway, she's trash.
Speaker 1: But then it was just like, but you won the
Speaker 1: challenge and she was she wasn't that bad on the
Speaker 1: run watched her wigs are very thirsty, are like, but
Speaker 1: she did that. I like that. And also she looks
Speaker 1: good at the finale. Yeah, when she came out at
Speaker 1: the final. Yeah, this, yeah, we have to talk about
Speaker 1: I mean this was this was the gag of the
Speaker 1: season was violets In the finale of season crush her
Speaker 1: blue veins her that way, cause I couldn't believe they'll
Speaker 1: never take that crown from her story, and that made
Speaker 1: me the bar I was out. We were all freaking
Speaker 1: out reading and we've all been talking about season seven
Speaker 1: the whole time, and I was a Violet Choky apologist supporter.
Speaker 1: And I would just like to say if Gingerman waddled
Speaker 1: out there like Toad, no one would give a was
Speaker 1: screaming for Violet, who we talked about earlier that day,
Speaker 1: And I will just say she was the right and
Speaker 1: then deserves her. She's a queen. We dropped off in
Speaker 1: our grinder conversation and I still hold a little bit
Speaker 1: of animosity for that. But no hope or hope. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm mad at everyone I haven't fucked. It's not even
Speaker 1: that I'm mad at everyone I haven't culture. Will number
Speaker 1: seven be mad at everyone you're having there's a reason
Speaker 1: to be angry study. And I went to the season
Speaker 1: seven crowning. I was there with you. Yeah, well you
Speaker 1: didn't stay, is what I was saying. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say because Bowen has this theme where he'll prioritize dragons
Speaker 1: above all else entirely the time that it's on and
Speaker 1: then we'll go to the finale. He'll like, again, this
Speaker 1: amazing opportunity to see the crowning. The crowning will happen,
Speaker 1: and then they're like, Okay, now they're all going to
Speaker 1: come out and perform. We're gonna like party and watch
Speaker 1: them all perform. And Bo's like, I'm tired. It's a
Speaker 1: Monday night. Yeah, but you know what, if you really
Speaker 1: prioritize that you would stay and watch a Violet dor Silks,
Speaker 1: speaking of which I saw her do that last night
Speaker 1: and bit she was amazing. She gagged me. Well, I
Speaker 1: saw it probably better than she was a year ago. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter because it wasn't She just won, honey, honey.
Speaker 1: I I had the fire in her heart that she
Speaker 1: was giving up her range. You don't sound like you
Speaker 1: can't even get your life right now? Can you tell
Speaker 1: you to tell you something? And you can't speak to this.
Speaker 1: Violet was incredible on the with those silks in the
Speaker 1: aerial movements. It was ago. Violet was incredible. Ginger mina
Speaker 1: a year ago, well a year ago, ginger Mine did
Speaker 1: this stupid fucking performance and it was just dumbass, like
Speaker 1: basic ass singing, live singing, and it was like this
Speaker 1: weird like road song. But the worst of all was Pearl,
Speaker 1: who absolutely was worthless, couldn't perform at all. And I
Speaker 1: love when some of these internet padding was showing, Oh god,
Speaker 1: I love when some of these internet jackals love to
Speaker 1: be like Trademark and Jackson loved to be like, oh
Speaker 1: fucking Rial. She just gives it to like the fucking
Speaker 1: most you know, the fucking queen with the biggest social
Speaker 1: media following was like that was Pearl, Yeah, had the
Speaker 1: most followers this year. Him Kim had Door a Door
Speaker 1: had the most followers. Rarely does I would. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it impacts them going far sometimes. But also
Speaker 1: all those queens were pretty good. I'm not pretty, I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful, just pl just she It's like Battle of
Speaker 1: Seasons and it's like Pearl Pear, which I think is
Speaker 1: kind of cool though, just like throw your things and
Speaker 1: shocked that Pearl is not out All Stars too. Really no, no,
Speaker 1: I bet she wasn't asked. I don't think. I bet
Speaker 1: she probably doesn't like her. I would be sure that
Speaker 1: she doesn't. And also maybe Pearl was just super novelty
Speaker 1: for that season for sure, what I liked about Pearl
Speaker 1: that was that she refused to bite and play the
Speaker 1: game and revealed too much about her personally. I did
Speaker 1: like that in the finale because it seemed like they
Speaker 1: were trying to tease that she had been abused in
Speaker 1: her youth, and they were like trying to get that
Speaker 1: out of her, and she's like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. Which great, You're allowed.
Speaker 1: Did she flat out say she wasn't going to talk
Speaker 1: about it. She They would just they kept trying to
Speaker 1: get at it in reality TV way and she just
Speaker 1: would be like, I don't want to talk about that, right,
Speaker 1: But the ultimately led to bad TV and I hated her.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing is like Lan didn't have
Speaker 1: that much to say. I'm not joking. You don't have
Speaker 1: to pour that much you have to do anything. I didn't.
Speaker 1: She wasn't. I just really appreciate what it feels like.
Speaker 1: It's a competition. Like despite the fact that you can
Speaker 1: look back on this season and say Bob did win,
Speaker 1: it was a nail butter there between her and Kim.
Speaker 1: She Now what what I do agree is if she
Speaker 1: she was in the top three you'd feel like it
Speaker 1: was more of a horse race. But I still don't
Speaker 1: think you would think she was. You would run the
Speaker 1: gamut of all these different grades you'd have. You'd at
Speaker 1: least have an answer for why she could win. I
Speaker 1: think there wasn't really an answer for why I Naomi
Speaker 1: could win. Really Okay, wait, I want to tell we.
Speaker 1: UM know someone who was at the finale, and he
Speaker 1: told me some fun stuff. We give some tea. So
Speaker 1: one that is so funny is they film, um multiple
Speaker 1: they film all them winning the crown. Um, so there's
Speaker 1: no spoiler. Um. He did say they filmed Bob twice
Speaker 1: and filmed none of the other ones twice. But a
Speaker 1: lot of times they'd be like, oh, the MIC's cut out,
Speaker 1: like you need to film that again, and they said
Speaker 1: something like that, but it was sort of like your angles.
Speaker 1: But anyway, when they filmed Naomi, Um, Naomi Smalls is
Speaker 1: this beautiful like model who's now going to walk in
Speaker 1: fashion weeks and stuff. But um, when they filmed her,
Speaker 1: she got the microphone and said, thank god, a big girl.
Speaker 1: Finally one dropped the mic and just walked. It's on Instagram.
Speaker 1: It is oh my god, but your friend and you're
Speaker 1: going and I love that. Lastly, maybe that's reason enough
Speaker 1: to have her once, so you can show that I'd
Speaker 1: be like our favorite Naomi story and get it on record.
Speaker 1: Here I have her basic, but this is for the
Speaker 1: viewers you might have. So, like Aaron and I were
Speaker 1: hanging out with Bob in before the season aired, and
Speaker 1: Naomi was there and Naomi was beating her face. They
Speaker 1: both taped the season. They both taped the season. They
Speaker 1: knew they were we were to hang out for we
Speaker 1: Ni on the show was on the show because she
Speaker 1: was not really in the leaked list from up top,
Speaker 1: because she was not her own. So we're hanging out
Speaker 1: with Bob in his hotel room and we're just gonna
Speaker 1: go and hang out and stuff, and then Naomi's there
Speaker 1: beating her face, and Naomi's going to go out and
Speaker 1: host at Mickey's. And Naomi's basically wearing a thong and
Speaker 1: then like a sea through plastic pants and shorts and
Speaker 1: then these in shields and yellow long yellow wig. She's
Speaker 1: like very like her rollers skate neon look, or maybe
Speaker 1: it wasn't roller skate word that she had. The plastic
Speaker 1: plastic she was like tinted blue and a stun We're
Speaker 1: going and stunning boy, stunning girl girl a drag on,
Speaker 1: like being up close as like that you are staggeringly beautiful.
Speaker 1: So we go out and we're walking to the car
Speaker 1: she's going to drive to her gig and she's in
Speaker 1: her heels and Bob is like, she's seven, child, like
Speaker 1: take them off, put them on in the club, and
Speaker 1: she's like no, no no, no. He's like, what are you doing.
Speaker 1: You were walking down sons at Boulevard wearing your heels,
Speaker 1: like put them, put on your flasks and put them
Speaker 1: on the club. And she turns to us she goes,
Speaker 1: I don't want to look tacky, and then walks off
Speaker 1: assholes out in the open next to a highway and
Speaker 1: we're all today, I don't want to look tacky, and
Speaker 1: we just died. All three of us just stopped in
Speaker 1: gags because I had to sit on the ground. So
Speaker 1: it was just you guys and Bob and Naomi. We
Speaker 1: didn't even know. Naomi was like, um, gonna be the
Speaker 1: big thing. But then I remember asking Bob like because
Speaker 1: then we went out and hung out of gay bars
Speaker 1: with Bob and then Naomi had to host I was like,
Speaker 1: what's her name again? She's so fierce. He's like Naome Smalls.
Speaker 1: That didn't give it away at all, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: know her name stories because Bob had seemed sucking twins
Speaker 1: and he's seen in New York. But also it's very
Speaker 1: nice and came in l A was gonna take Nao there.
Speaker 1: We didn't come but Naomi Naomi on the mic at
Speaker 1: Mickey she's hosting, but like everybody's talking like no one
Speaker 1: can hear, and she gets on the the DJ doesn't
Speaker 1: take the music now, she's just doing the normal like
Speaker 1: what kind of thing. Like She's like, and guys, we
Speaker 1: should check out show at you PC Theater. I was like,
Speaker 1: ye're nice, what's your show? I was like, a check
Speaker 1: it out at you check it out tomorrow night you PC.
Speaker 1: So funny to that no one can here while go
Speaker 1: Go boys dance with their like that funny story that
Speaker 1: Amanda tells about Amanda our friend Amanda Shakman. She's in
Speaker 1: popular with us and she gets calls from like her
Speaker 1: her agent, her manager, like she'll get voicemails about audition
Speaker 1: she has coming up, and like, because you know how
Speaker 1: some people in the industry I guess when they get
Speaker 1: funny people to come in for commercials, they're like, we
Speaker 1: love to see like you know, the UC beyond a
Speaker 1: resume and stuff like that. So she'll get like a
Speaker 1: voicemail from this like basic ass assistant at our agency
Speaker 1: and she'll be like, hey, Amando, this is Kristen from
Speaker 1: and we have an audition for you. Um, this is
Speaker 1: like pop. It should be very ubc pit um, you know,
Speaker 1: and they want to they want to. They wanted to
Speaker 1: be very neat. They wanted to be very ubc Um.
Speaker 1: You play like a girl who is um funny in
Speaker 1: a situation. Um, so remember remember remember to bring ubc pit.
Speaker 1: And also now bringing up the pit gives me my
Speaker 1: This is my favorite. When we were all before of
Speaker 1: us were there and there was a bunch of people
Speaker 1: there and we were all sitting there, and I guess
Speaker 1: he kind of knew you guys because to that point, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we just came a bunch of his show
Speaker 1: and we hung out a time, and then he came
Speaker 1: to that and then yeah, and he goes over there
Speaker 1: those the comedy gays, like the U C B gays,
Speaker 1: You watch out or you're gonna be performing at the pit,
Speaker 1: such as just like such a read to the pit,
Speaker 1: and also so specifically not even New York people would
Speaker 1: know that Barracuda death like to pick a room in
Speaker 1: New York where no one will know the differences all
Speaker 1: those two like barracout on a Monday night at one
Speaker 1: in the morning, Everyone's like, what, Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: was so funny. It was so funny. It was just
Speaker 1: and honestly, did you guys know watching him then that
Speaker 1: he would one day win? RuPauls Daggers. I felt like
Speaker 1: I knew he was. I just talked to our dear
Speaker 1: friend Zack Rner Harris last night, and we were so
Speaker 1: happy when he won, and we're all dancing around, and
Speaker 1: then we were talking about like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: can't believe it. And then he said, but like because
Speaker 1: we're talking about how it was our queen and like
Speaker 1: our favorite queen and so cool to have your favorite
Speaker 1: queen on the show and then win. And he was
Speaker 1: just saying that, like, but when you heard she got
Speaker 1: on and we were all like, oh, well, she's going there.
Speaker 1: I would say even before that, when I first met her,
Speaker 1: I was I did not think that because I was
Speaker 1: so much like, oh, you're a pro, like you're a
Speaker 1: working queen. You don't even need to be anyone could.
Speaker 1: But then when that thing started going around about how
Speaker 1: rou went and cognitated her show and tipped her a
Speaker 1: hundred dollars, I was like, oh, she's on and she wins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the first night, Oh my god, it goes
Speaker 1: back to Cottygate. My first I may ever saw Bob
Speaker 1: the Dragon was the night I've caught to Gate. I
Speaker 1: remember leaving Barracuda. I can even met you guys after Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Oscar Montoya was in town, already knew Bob then, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've already gone to Bob show just from Twins. We
Speaker 1: would we would go after so much for Twins, and
Speaker 1: we stayed and Bob was our favorite, and we had
Speaker 1: Monday nights something year and a half ago or two
Speaker 1: years ago, and he came, and then he came, and
Speaker 1: then also we came with Matteo one time Bob, and
Speaker 1: then Mateo and Bob knew each other back and Carolines
Speaker 1: and that sort of then became like, oh, let's let's
Speaker 1: haven came to Twins. Yes, so last night at the
Speaker 1: Crowning Um so like some someone on the red carpet
Speaker 1: dropped out, so they called Mateo to like get him
Speaker 1: to come down, like Logo called his manager to get
Speaker 1: him to come down. And then Mateo got me and
Speaker 1: Henrykopersky tickets and so we rushed down there. And then
Speaker 1: afterwards we meet up with Matteo after the crowning and
Speaker 1: he tells us that I'm tired, I have to go home.
Speaker 1: Well we all left together. Oh my god, no, stop
Speaker 1: at this. Sorry, I didn't even mean this was an
Speaker 1: instance where Matt Hey. It was like Matteo was on
Speaker 1: the top alcony and we were chatting all night, like
Speaker 1: from across levels. First of all, Josh's jacking Aaron jock
Speaker 1: Erona just over the pant, over the pants like a
Speaker 1: fun mine. But I'm in my home. We're still sure
Speaker 1: it was the Matteo was speaking of which Mateo was
Speaker 1: interviewing Bob and Kim. She and Bob, I guess has
Speaker 1: a huge crush on Matteo. Strange. How strange? Well, Bob
Speaker 1: Bob one time posted like a fan art that fan
Speaker 1: art thing that Meteto drew for him, and then the
Speaker 1: caption was, god, why is Mateo lane? Both so talented
Speaker 1: and so sexy, it's not fair. So then on the
Speaker 1: Red carpet last night, Bob made Matteo take his shirt off,
Speaker 1: and then Kim went up to and then when Mateo
Speaker 1: interviewed Kim, he put a shirt back on. But Kim
Speaker 1: was like, wait, if you took your shirt off for Bob,
Speaker 1: you're taking your shirt off for me, and so he's like, fine, okay,
Speaker 1: and uh very willingly a chain. Well no he was.
Speaker 1: He owned up to He's like, no, I loved it.
Speaker 1: He was like, can I just say, Bob has the
Speaker 1: best grinder joke of all then? And if you're talking
Speaker 1: seen Bob on Grier never s a joke. I read
Speaker 1: it and I didn't even get it the first time.
Speaker 1: Bob's profile just says look at the stage, and then
Speaker 1: a bunch of exclamation points because it's just like if
Speaker 1: you're checking it at her show and you see her,
Speaker 1: Oh that's fine, funny, look at the stage. Love that,
Speaker 1: but wait what Kim then took So then so then
Speaker 1: Kim and Meteo take a show over. Then Bob ran back,
Speaker 1: grabbed Meteto shirt and threw it across the I love that,
Speaker 1: love that amazing. I think him so funny. I was funny.
Speaker 1: I told you guys this, but this is my Kim's story.
Speaker 1: So last night, so Kim released UM. So it's become
Speaker 1: tradition now that all the top three queen's release singles.
Speaker 1: Then Naomi did not, but in years past, I mean
Speaker 1: last year, all three of them had a single out
Speaker 1: the night of which is fucking obnoxious. So Bob released
Speaker 1: pirst first, like yesterday, and then Naomi did not. But
Speaker 1: Kim released a single, a troll single called single UM
Speaker 1: and the cover is Britney Spears hit Baby one More Time,
Speaker 1: like in that stupid pose, but with Kim Che's face
Speaker 1: like grafted on it. And then it's a it's a
Speaker 1: disgusting piece of trash song that like is just a
Speaker 1: troll song. And then when Kim, when Kim came out
Speaker 1: last night, people were cheering. But then there was a
Speaker 1: silent moment that I just yelled. I was like two,
Speaker 1: I was like two rows down, uh, and I was
Speaker 1: like single is the best song of all time? And
Speaker 1: then Kim laugh smiles, points at me and goes, I
Speaker 1: like you. And it was very special. What do you
Speaker 1: think it would have been like in that room if
Speaker 1: Kim if Nao made one, people would have been shocked.
Speaker 1: But people were out there for Kim was it was
Speaker 1: splitty evenly between like Bob lovers and Kim lovers, and
Speaker 1: even the Kim lovers were a little more vocal. It
Speaker 1: was it was the only Kim was very popular because
Speaker 1: even at that when we were at you weren't there before.
Speaker 1: But um, I mean Bob. The one we were at
Speaker 1: was like totally Probob, but there were still there was
Speaker 1: like a Kim cheer that surprised me. I was like, WHOA.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would be silent, but it was
Speaker 1: like and it was here for Kim che It was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, a lot of people interesting. All
Speaker 1: Stars three, Yeah, I don't know who who out of
Speaker 1: this season is getting on All Stars three. I think
Speaker 1: Kim Cheech. You could make a case for Naomi che
Speaker 1: George for sure, but even like a Derek or a
Speaker 1: Robbie could get on and All Stars. If Robbie or
Speaker 1: Derek gets on, I think Derek's done with all start
Speaker 1: with with drag Race. I think Derek I've got better
Speaker 1: at what she does and she her face is beat.
Speaker 1: I think Naomi could be done with drag race. For sure.
Speaker 1: You said Naomi is walking? Is she actually gonna She's gotten?
Speaker 1: She's gotten, but that's what she wants. She wants to
Speaker 1: be at all Wow, So that's amazing. I think she's
Speaker 1: on All Stars three. I think Cheechi Devane could be
Speaker 1: very good. Ken the imports not all that's what that's
Speaker 1: the one name Pearl. I'm surprised because she was such
Speaker 1: a popular, quote unquote contested. But Kennedy. I think that's
Speaker 1: someone that was snubbed for All Stars too. I guess
Speaker 1: they did. I could live. We can try and list
Speaker 1: who's all I'll keep itally so I can go just
Speaker 1: backwards by the seasons because it's easier. So it's Katya
Speaker 1: and Ginger than it's a door, and then it's a
Speaker 1: shipload of Season five, so it's Roxy, Alaska, Detox Cocoa.
Speaker 1: Then it's Tatiana, Tana and Fifi. Is what I have
Speaker 1: so crazy because with that list, I can't even begin
Speaker 1: to say who will be out first? And he'll be
Speaker 1: there at the end. I think thing to be there
Speaker 1: at the end. I think Alaska wins. Do they know that? No, No,
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't think they have think she could win.
Speaker 1: I just I think I think it's like a Chad
Speaker 1: Michael's where RuPaul's like, oops, I feel bad you are.
Speaker 1: Alaska is the most famous queen from drag Race, like
Speaker 1: maybe even more than sharing more than certainly more than
Speaker 1: I don't think that's Alaska's huge. I don't think she's
Speaker 1: bigger than Bianca. I think she has more online followers.
Speaker 1: Then let's find out. How do you think that Roxy
Speaker 1: Andrews is going to do on All Stars? Just depends
Speaker 1: on how early the fashion stuff is, because if it's
Speaker 1: early on, then she'll go far and then it's like
Speaker 1: then you can kind of depends. I'm excited for Tatiana, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was so long ago and she was a
Speaker 1: different different yes yeah, wait, what's yes? Tatiana ta a
Speaker 1: different show. I think that Coco will be out very early.
Speaker 1: I would bet Cocoa and Ginger. I know we have
Speaker 1: a biased against Ginger, and honestly, I'm sure she's a
Speaker 1: lovely person, but I just I don't see her where
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm a comedy queen against those queens, stuck
Speaker 1: up to them. I have some Ginger tea, but I
Speaker 1: won't share it. I'll share. I said, the Ginger tea
Speaker 1: is pretty I mean I had heard that, like Ginger
Speaker 1: when she taped the show was going through it. Oh
Speaker 1: so that sucks. So she's going to be like sad.
Speaker 1: So she's gonna be released and there, and they're going
Speaker 1: to work that into the edit, which I think is
Speaker 1: kind of ship. Are they really? Alaska has a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty thousand less followers than Beyond. Okay, but I
Speaker 1: do think um Alaska is um when they did that,
Speaker 1: and this is just wow reports but everybody voted. This
Speaker 1: was pre season seven and they're like, here's your top
Speaker 1: twenty five queens of all time. Um Alaska and a
Speaker 1: Door were one and two and number one preseason seven,
Speaker 1: pre seven but right after she'd won. Yeah, but Beyond
Speaker 1: It hadn't done the special, but I mean has had
Speaker 1: four had no time. But Bianca was a Door, like
Speaker 1: I can't say a Door. It was well like everyone
Speaker 1: loves being I agree, but I mean you need to
Speaker 1: give her a little breath. But a Door was number one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was, and I think the Door point of true
Speaker 1: popular amongst the audience. However, I don't think she's going
Speaker 1: to be adaptable enough in that group. I don't see
Speaker 1: our door because of the fashion. I don't see her
Speaker 1: winning it. Yeah, it's also as a queen, the way
Speaker 1: that she has developed in her in the way that
Speaker 1: she actually works. She doesn't care. She doesn't send her
Speaker 1: waiste rock drag, yeah, which is so cool, but that
Speaker 1: that she would definitely allow it. It's not gonna it's
Speaker 1: not Is that going to read on this? I think
Speaker 1: that um Alyssa very well. I don't. I don't. I
Speaker 1: agree with that. I think it's Alaska's to lose. But
Speaker 1: I think Alyssa will be a contender and I think
Speaker 1: could go far. But also catch is like she is weirder.
Speaker 1: She's weird and I love her and I think she
Speaker 1: could win two. But I do think. I just think
Speaker 1: it's Alaska's to live. Yeah, I feel so bad for
Speaker 1: what I used to think of Tricksie because tricks I
Speaker 1: love Tricksie now and I hated tricks Have you watched
Speaker 1: have you watched her watch it? I've seen it a
Speaker 1: couple of times. I'm mean, I think she's so funny
Speaker 1: that your favorite. I actually I don't love her. I
Speaker 1: have to say, I really don't like her makeup. Well,
Speaker 1: I still really have issues with her. Some more tea
Speaker 1: from the finale is that Trixie called out Acid Betty
Speaker 1: for that Untucked moment and it was like not cute,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't a cute call out and asked Betty
Speaker 1: like had to defend herself and it was like kind
Speaker 1: of long. And this unnamed source that I know that
Speaker 1: was at the finale said it was sort of like
Speaker 1: the moment of the finale, like it was like it
Speaker 1: was big, but I think they kind because it was.
Speaker 1: And also probably I don't snippet those those things with
Speaker 1: the queen's a questions, like but they ripped on Fifi
Speaker 1: in the But anyway, Acid Betti in an episode of
Speaker 1: Untucked when Kim she was getting an emotional video like
Speaker 1: she's like her makeup though, Oh Jesus Christ, get her
Speaker 1: out of here, like worst queen into Ali drag race
Speaker 1: history like like that, which is like she was just
Speaker 1: being shady fun but it was it was like this
Speaker 1: is her emotional moment, let her watch the goddamn It
Speaker 1: was one thing to say. It was literally like she
Speaker 1: was talking over video then. However, though I have seen
Speaker 1: pictures of them together, Trixie and A said posts that
Speaker 1: thing and they're like, look like they're having fun. But
Speaker 1: maybe it's just like pot but so I think, but
Speaker 1: maybe she just did call her out and it was
Speaker 1: like it was a big moment of the taping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that as I think that Trixie Mattel actually
Speaker 1: I would put in the Pandora box area of being
Speaker 1: one of the most severely overrated queens in the history.
Speaker 1: I used to think that, but then Josh and I
Speaker 1: sort of came around her. I've come around on her,
Speaker 1: but but I guess I didn't know how well regarded.
Speaker 1: Tricksie really was really popular and there's a reason why
Speaker 1: she was brought back, and there was an uproar after
Speaker 1: she got voted out, but then she was brought back
Speaker 1: and it was the same thing that you saw with Naisha,
Speaker 1: which is like someone mediol I did not like Trixie
Speaker 1: on the program, and now I have liked her because
Speaker 1: of the World of Wonder YouTube channel. Um she has
Speaker 1: a show with Katya and I have liked it a lot,
Speaker 1: and I have come around on her. I still don't
Speaker 1: love her makeup, but I think she is just like
Speaker 1: I don't love makeup, Like I'm like I'm making fun
Speaker 1: of dragon, which I get it is not my favorite thing,
Speaker 1: but I also think, and then I feel terrible. I
Speaker 1: think Pandora's over eight attitude. I will say about Tricks,
Speaker 1: He's not a Nation at all, because it was like,
Speaker 1: at least a queen who had a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: to like show what she could do and then go
Speaker 1: home and then be brought back. Sense she looks so amazing.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Nation is like, honestly, it was
Speaker 1: such a dumb bring Yeah, but I mean like it
Speaker 1: was such a stupid bringback because it's like, we don't
Speaker 1: know anything about this person. Why do any of us care.
Speaker 1: I still would have rather seen more Nation looks on
Speaker 1: the runway than Robbie Turner. I think Robbie Turner actually
Speaker 1: is for the worst queens on the runway in the
Speaker 1: history of that league of their own runway. Washous, you
Speaker 1: know what I like there? And toss a ball without
Speaker 1: a mitt or a baseball bat, You're just going to
Speaker 1: toss the ball up and down and you're just gonna
Speaker 1: buy the costume from Halloween Advantage at the finale, and
Speaker 1: Madonna was so red of all. I loved that read
Speaker 1: and so good you know what, somehow felt much more
Speaker 1: meaningful to me, especially after all the winners walked down
Speaker 1: and I was like, Bob is in that like she
Speaker 1: and she belongs. She belongs. Also, Aaron and I were
Speaker 1: talking earlier that there was this thing sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's never been a queen like kimch and that's why
Speaker 1: people were mad. It's like there's never been and I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's never been a queen like Bob. Anybody who tries
Speaker 1: to say she's a Bianca, I'm like, well, no, they're
Speaker 1: both comedy. She's so much funnier. And then also the
Speaker 1: aforementioned like what she's trying to do with it, and
Speaker 1: then the same token like there've been look queen's before too,
Speaker 1: like Raja was a look queen and Violet, but Rasha
Speaker 1: was even like an avant garde look queen like Kim.
Speaker 1: But they're not the same at all. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this to like Dinnigrade either. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like Bob is as close to Bianca as Kim she
Speaker 1: is to Rasha, which is not at all. Did you
Speaker 1: guys watch the roll deexs of Hate? Now? I heard
Speaker 1: that was about finish. So so I would say I
Speaker 1: saw Bianca live one time and it was a horrible room,
Speaker 1: and she was very funny with all of her I
Speaker 1: think she's truly a good insult improv comic. And when
Speaker 1: her like written material feels a little hacky, maybe yeah
Speaker 1: and racist, I just like so tasteless and like because
Speaker 1: she's not just trying. Don Rickles wouldn't work in a
Speaker 1: room these days, yeah, you know. Um, and like a
Speaker 1: Joan Rivers thing right, was very like racist and pushing
Speaker 1: envelope stuff. I saw stand up when I was a
Speaker 1: freshman in college. I was on a date with a
Speaker 1: girl and we went down to the down to the
Speaker 1: East village. She was like, honestly at this point had
Speaker 1: to be like I guess eighty eight years old or something,
Speaker 1: and she had her like huge like pieces of posterboard
Speaker 1: tape to the stage and she was like still trying
Speaker 1: out new material, but the majority of the news her
Speaker 1: it was like all like really really unearned yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was like really tough. I will, okay, I'll say
Speaker 1: this about Bianca and Bob. The difference between Bianca and
Speaker 1: Bob to me is, um, I won't I won't get
Speaker 1: into this, but I got dinner with you guys, know,
Speaker 1: I got dinner with Throgy a drive and just hanging
Speaker 1: out with her, and I'm sure you guys got this
Speaker 1: sense hanging out with Bob, I feel like they're both
Speaker 1: like they're both like our people, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: just and here and watching the two of them interview
Speaker 1: each other in these like logo videos where like they're
Speaker 1: backtage rehearsal and they're just talking and like having this
Speaker 1: great conversation that is so engaging. I'm like, oh, like
Speaker 1: they're they're like they're like our sensibility and like they
Speaker 1: like they're like New York based like performers, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, like there's some shared commonality in that, and
Speaker 1: so watching them and just it's very meanful. I got
Speaker 1: very emotional last night watching Bob cry. As soon as
Speaker 1: the crown was was pinder ahead, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you've watched the uh the video of what's
Speaker 1: it called when they see it live? I haven't seen
Speaker 1: today has a hilarious line where Bob starts to cry
Speaker 1: and back and they're like, you're ruining your makeup, and
Speaker 1: Bob go, I ruined it the second I painted it all.
Speaker 1: I was looking for that as um Kim. She is
Speaker 1: like immediately like you deserve this, You deserve this, like
Speaker 1: in a nice way, with a tinge of like you're
Speaker 1: like you need to say these things. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 1: I meant him reading into it also very nice. It
Speaker 1: doesn't read a shady but she's just immediately being like
Speaker 1: very complimentary. And Naomi, I think because probably Naomi and
Speaker 1: Bob I believe got to be well Kim and friends,
Speaker 1: Kim extreme best friends. And Naomi was just more like
Speaker 1: squeezing Bob's hand and then giving her kisses. Come on,
Speaker 1: you knew this, um, but but oh but then I
Speaker 1: read this. You were talking about this, like what Bob
Speaker 1: is gonna do with the yeah's going to give a
Speaker 1: million dollars to charity? Right, And then there was this
Speaker 1: interview that came out of Entertainment Weekly that someone just
Speaker 1: posted and like at the end, he just goes like
Speaker 1: someone asks him or was in New York magazine, this
Speaker 1: is a multure. Someone asks him, Uh, well, what's next
Speaker 1: for Dragon? He goes, Whenever people ask me that question,
Speaker 1: I think nothing's Like I love the way drag is now,
Speaker 1: like whatever's next? Is just going to be like whatever happens,
Speaker 1: it's already changed so much in the last five years,
Speaker 1: Like let's just go along for the right. I don't
Speaker 1: want to forecast too much because I already think it's perfect.
Speaker 1: It's like such a perfect pure art form. It is
Speaker 1: a really good time. I think it's so true anyway.
Speaker 1: I also, I do want to say, um, just really
Speaker 1: quickly in defense of Bianca da Rio. I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of people now because Bob is winning, and Bob
Speaker 1: supporters throwing Bianca under the bus and like calling her ship.
Speaker 1: I have to say, Bianca is such a true queen,
Speaker 1: fantastic and I love her, one of the true winners.
Speaker 1: And I think just because her style of comedy is
Speaker 1: different and we're all basement comedians and she is more
Speaker 1: like doing a Joan Rivers John Rickles, which is more
Speaker 1: like for all of America, I feel like just doesn't
Speaker 1: just because it's not your exact brand. I do still
Speaker 1: just think Bob's funnier than because you agree with her
Speaker 1: sensibility more. But I think Bob would kill in all
Speaker 1: of America just like Bianca quit because Bob just saying
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you like Bob more, but Bianca is
Speaker 1: as funny. If that's your taste, it's like a subjective toast.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's like a ginger
Speaker 1: versus Bob, Like I know you're not Guess what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I think Bob is more like can play
Speaker 1: more comedic styles. It's like more expansively funny, not doing
Speaker 1: one trick. This is what I'm saying. I'm being a
Speaker 1: Bianca apologist, but I feel like she's getting a lot
Speaker 1: of attack and she's being called but I'm saying she's very,
Speaker 1: very funny. I'm not saying she's not funny. I do
Speaker 1: think Bob is funnier. Yeah, but that is subjective. Watch
Speaker 1: her worm with the crowd for the coronation last year.
Speaker 1: She killed She's so funny. Yeah, she's so funny. She's
Speaker 1: truly and you like Bob better as do I. But
Speaker 1: I don't like this weird thing. It's like Bob's funnier,
Speaker 1: He's the funnier. What was like to you Bianca is?
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of weird negative beyond and
Speaker 1: she's a New York queen just like Bob. Their dear friends.
Speaker 1: They love to perform together and they will for all time.
Speaker 1: I also don't have on one because lift the other up. Wow.
Speaker 1: I would also say that Bianca gives it as good
Speaker 1: as she gets it can take it. Yeah, she is
Speaker 1: a mean girl. That's how. That's the game that she plays.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I look back on Bianca in her season
Speaker 1: and Untucked, I think she was pushing buttons that didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily need to be pushed. I think they created a
Speaker 1: great TV. I feel very attacked. I mean, thank you
Speaker 1: for that, but she was very vicious, and I think
Speaker 1: that it was this weird dichotomy. But with Bianca, like
Speaker 1: depending on who she really liked or not, I thought
Speaker 1: it was advantageous to be nice to like Adore. She
Speaker 1: knew was you know how her ship more figured out
Speaker 1: than Lignja. I just don't like the whole. I think Liganda,
Speaker 1: if you look back at that season, was very clearly
Speaker 1: having an anxiety attack three weeks. But I can understand,
Speaker 1: not to not fully defending Bianca for attacking someone, but
Speaker 1: I do understand how they have to live with and
Speaker 1: she's like thirty seven and that girls like twenty two
Speaker 1: don't like you, and you're being like, stop yelling and
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm gonna yell at you a lot because
Speaker 1: you're being an idiot. And I'm not trying to shoot
Speaker 1: on Loganja because I've listened to her what's the tea?
Speaker 1: And I like really came around, But um, I just
Speaker 1: think it's like that the pressure they're under and that.
Speaker 1: And I think Bob on his season had a lot
Speaker 1: of like Gia guns lag AGA's like a lot of
Speaker 1: I mean, not Bob, I'm sorry a Bianca where you're
Speaker 1: like whereas like this season, everyone seemed a little bit
Speaker 1: more like even the ones we don't like, like Robbie,
Speaker 1: they all like her. So it's like Aaron's just saying,
Speaker 1: you have to kill the week I have. Oh honey,
Speaker 1: I'm a Darwin It. I have a question to bring
Speaker 1: the table that I believe we've not discussed on text
Speaker 1: threads or the Facebook duck. Can I say this, you're
Speaker 1: this is a quick uh of quad of people that
Speaker 1: have quite the text thread were in person for the
Speaker 1: first time, and this is a question I haven't really
Speaker 1: thought about until this moment. But my question is right,
Speaker 1: I mean, RuPaul right now hardly wants to be in drag. Ever, right,
Speaker 1: how much longer does this show last? Like how much
Speaker 1: longer does RuPaul want to still have to be RuPaul
Speaker 1: doing this? And is there ever a point when she's
Speaker 1: not doing it anymore and it's will continue? I think,
Speaker 1: do you think that for a long time? But do
Speaker 1: you think that's so far in the future that she'll
Speaker 1: do it for ten years at least? And so it's
Speaker 1: not even a question worth considering, she I thought, I
Speaker 1: do not think the show will go on with her.
Speaker 1: It's called RuPaul's Drag Race. I don't think it would
Speaker 1: be like and now Michelle's the main judge, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think you can do it without a drag queen
Speaker 1: at the helm, and she truly is. It's like could
Speaker 1: Lady Bunny take over? I don't think. But at this point,
Speaker 1: I mean this is over. Yeah, I just don't see
Speaker 1: it because it's like she Bob the Drag Race. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think ru was the and still is the most successful.
Speaker 1: She came from a different era and than created a
Speaker 1: whole new well and how we we've talked about like
Speaker 1: my parents have never heard of Bob the Drag Queen,
Speaker 1: but my parents have heard of RuPaul, And like everybody
Speaker 1: knows who they don't know about her stuff, and they're
Speaker 1: not fans of her, but they're like it is amazing everybody,
Speaker 1: But she's a that, like there is no drag queen
Speaker 1: like that. So I think it's sort of like I
Speaker 1: can't go on without her because you need the like
Speaker 1: who's the drag queen. It's RuPaul and there never will
Speaker 1: be another because now there's a market and it's still
Speaker 1: not the same that RuPaul is. My parents have no
Speaker 1: idea of bianc Adelrio. No, that's what I mean, because
Speaker 1: how why would they care? Like it's it's like a niche.
Speaker 1: There's tons of them now, but no one's like broken
Speaker 1: into me like RuPaul was like on TV as RuPaul
Speaker 1: In like Sabrina the Teenage Witch, or liked her own
Speaker 1: talk show, or was like in magazines walking the runway.
Speaker 1: It's like she was truly in culture in a way
Speaker 1: that we're all our drag queens that we love are
Speaker 1: still in the fringes of culture. It's still this very
Speaker 1: But again I wonder if that has to do with like,
Speaker 1: at that time, that truly being such a novelty thing,
Speaker 1: which now it's like that would not be as big
Speaker 1: of a novelty thing. I think it's still novelty to
Speaker 1: have a like a drag queen on on an T
Speaker 1: G I F show. Yeah, yeah, like that would be Sabrina. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she plays a hairdresser and then she like transforms she's
Speaker 1: a witch to Yeah, she plays well. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: saying she got sucked into culture because she was the
Speaker 1: first drag queen to make any ways, and now like divine, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess after and there's always been drag queens, but
Speaker 1: she became like she did. She was in magazines and
Speaker 1: modeled like she was accepted by main culture, like mainstream
Speaker 1: culture that Paul in the Brady Bunch movies and jan
Speaker 1: you better like that's insane. So then is the drag
Speaker 1: race culture at all creating sort of this niche thing
Speaker 1: where people can't break out as much because now there's
Speaker 1: just this little hamster wheel for you to really I
Speaker 1: mean not really, because Angela has many TV credits, yeah,
Speaker 1: whereas in drag just like what I believe it, I
Speaker 1: just have cocktails in classic movies or something. It used
Speaker 1: to be on logo I mean Willem, yeah, but William
Speaker 1: was like boy famous before not no, like worked as
Speaker 1: a boy in TV all the time. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Have you watched season four? About? Actually haven't seen season
Speaker 1: That's all William talks about. Anytime they do anything, it's like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been on WiFi or somebody I was. I would
Speaker 1: have thought she was on it as a as a
Speaker 1: drag queen. No, no boy, all right, should get into
Speaker 1: I don't think alright, so listen and I actually want
Speaker 1: to do something a little different. I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: All right, I wanted to be I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: And you can pick your I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Is any queen that's ever been on RuPaul's drag? And
Speaker 1: you gotta come for somebody for one? So who goes first?
Speaker 1: Who does go first? Does anyone really not like someone?
Speaker 1: I really? I feel like we all don't like ginger?
Speaker 1: So that's what I mean. That would just be one
Speaker 1: one big ship fast ship post um. I want to
Speaker 1: go for one that's popular that you want to flip
Speaker 1: the table. But I like a lot of the popular.
Speaker 1: But but what if we all try to do that
Speaker 1: as an exercise, like pick someone popular and just know's
Speaker 1: how about this? I like this? We will we'll go
Speaker 1: in a circle and we have to pick someone for you.
Speaker 1: I wish we could like draw names you haven't seen,
Speaker 1: as we know I could still do it. Let me
Speaker 1: give you one, Manila los On, and I have to
Speaker 1: and I have to go for her. You have to
Speaker 1: come from Manila losing. Does that make sense? Because I
Speaker 1: like Manila Loa because I hate Minilisa, and I think
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be put upon you. I think you should
Speaker 1: ask yourself the question, who's the queen that you sort
Speaker 1: of like even if you don't hate, but you have
Speaker 1: critical things to say about who is also the most popular?
Speaker 1: Like you don't like Minilla and I'm gonna put on
Speaker 1: the clock right now, ready, And I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: go I don't think so, honey, Manila los On. You
Speaker 1: know what you are? You are an Asian minstrel. Excuse
Speaker 1: my use of that word. Um, you know, an Asian minstrel.
Speaker 1: Just that what what? Whatever the funk that Filipino lady
Speaker 1: was that she played on Snatch Game, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even know if that was authentic or like a good impression,
Speaker 1: but like, honey, that was atrocious and you it was
Speaker 1: not the Kimmy jong Un thing like that was. There
Speaker 1: was a comment overlaid on top of that, which was
Speaker 1: fun and it was a nice, easy sort of fallback
Speaker 1: for Kim to be on but for for for Manilla
Speaker 1: No Way, and by the end when they did the
Speaker 1: whole like h there was one performance challenge they forgetting
Speaker 1: season three, but she butchered it. Raja rocked it. I
Speaker 1: think Alexis even rocked at. Sophia rocked Manila No Way
Speaker 1: was a week link the entire season. Her only shining
Speaker 1: moment was lip sinking to what that fucking that that
Speaker 1: one song that um that MacArthur MacArthur Park And that
Speaker 1: was her only good moment and it was against Delta Work,
Speaker 1: and so of course she's gonna look amazing lip sinking
Speaker 1: next to Delta Work, who couldn't even emote for ship.
Speaker 1: So I don't think so, honey, Manila lose on. You
Speaker 1: are not that great of a queen. Wow. I would maybe,
Speaker 1: and again we've now already shipped on the screen, but
Speaker 1: she's very popular and I hated her from the beginning.
Speaker 1: I would I would Pearl if you want Pearl, I mean,
Speaker 1: just like Pearl from Comfort Pearl, Josh Sharp and go okay, Pearl,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. You've never brought anything good.
Speaker 1: You cannot do one thing well. But Guy Brandham says
Speaker 1: the litmus test of a good track queens. Do you
Speaker 1: want to host them? Watch watch them host bingo? Pearl,
Speaker 1: I do not even want to watch play bingo. I
Speaker 1: do not even you bring nothing. I used to say
Speaker 1: in all the season seven it was like, please pull
Speaker 1: up some porn on your phone while drag Race is
Speaker 1: going on. Pearlin will not be hot enough as a
Speaker 1: boy to be worth being on TV, because that's the
Speaker 1: only reason she was Like inside of that sphere, you
Speaker 1: were like, I get half a chub, So I'm interested.
Speaker 1: She cannot do a thing. We're rewarding her now for
Speaker 1: being guarded about a personal life. I do not even
Speaker 1: believe that was a choice. I think she has nothing
Speaker 1: to say about anything, including herself. Now she DJ's. I'm
Speaker 1: sure she can't even cross fade. I bet she has
Speaker 1: an iTunes playlist and you hear her when she turns
Speaker 1: up the volume on Dramac. I am positive that that happens. Alison.
Speaker 1: Did you see that look people like from drag Con
Speaker 1: where she just wore the like Star Wars dreads. Who
Speaker 1: cares like just because you bought four ft of yarn
Speaker 1: and you nobody gives a ship her. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: That's one minute a minute masterful, that masterful. I don't
Speaker 1: know who to go for. You know what? I have one? Okay,
Speaker 1: you got you go, But we wanted to be a
Speaker 1: popular queen. No, you can do one. You don't. I
Speaker 1: think you want to throw it by who is hit
Speaker 1: the button and is starting? I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: DA's exclamation point, because I've seen somebody dress having to start.
Speaker 1: Her name was Hallie Barry bitch, and she did it
Speaker 1: better than you ever could. And guess what she had
Speaker 1: the special offense to come with her. How about this?
Speaker 1: How about this? If you're gonna come in, honey, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna be coming in as a magic queen, a
Speaker 1: nerd queen, have some magic do your thing, send some
Speaker 1: time with the magic castle with Neil Patrick Harris and
Speaker 1: his husband as two kids, which by the way, they're
Speaker 1: both blonde, so you know which sperm took Neil Patrick Harris.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Random genetic tests. Listen, Dax,
Speaker 1: you have a problem. You can't even sing I will survive.
Speaker 1: I literally walked into the market the other day and
Speaker 1: I heard I will sat I came out. I knew
Speaker 1: every goddamn word, your embarrassment, And honestly, I hated that
Speaker 1: they sent home Layla McQueen as well, because you know what,
Speaker 1: you have to judge it as you see it, honey,
Speaker 1: And that was a halle berry ass, fake gass, second
Speaker 1: rate bitch who couldn't even think I will survive. And
Speaker 1: know what, you didn't survive and you'll never survive. You
Speaker 1: know what, I don't think. So that's one minute just
Speaker 1: walking into the market, Mark. I also have some more
Speaker 1: um reunion tea. During the reunion, um, he kept Rue
Speaker 1: kept calling Layla McQueen Lila McQueen the whole time, and
Speaker 1: then they had to re record. They were all gone
Speaker 1: and Ru had to stay and re record Ueen he'd
Speaker 1: be called her Lila the whole time, and um, that's why,
Speaker 1: like she doesn't get that much. And she's also like
Speaker 1: like making weird face of all time because it's like
Speaker 1: her name is being mispronounced that Layla McQueen like being
Speaker 1: like the featured deest of first they all love her.
Speaker 1: She SUPs. She's like a fun hot mess. They she's
Speaker 1: actually very fun, but she's also a hot mess. So
Speaker 1: it's like, if that's your ship, it's not gonna translate.
Speaker 1: I totally believe she's probably better than the show indicated,
Speaker 1: but I don't think she's good. But I would Aaron,
Speaker 1: if you want to go for Ginger, I thing you
Speaker 1: can elevate it. Yeah, I think you'll do. It's just
Speaker 1: hard because we've all, like I've written jokes with people
Speaker 1: in this room about Ginger, so it just feels hard.
Speaker 1: I really let the brain go. See what you know. Alright, ready,
Speaker 1: ready for the clock, say something right us. First one,
Speaker 1: I apologized for speaking ell of anyone. Here we go,
Speaker 1: one minute on the clock, starting now. I don't think so. Honey,
Speaker 1: Ginger man, you walk in, you say you're a comedy queen.
Speaker 1: You said not one funny joke. Your jokes were laughy taffy.
Speaker 1: The only good joke you ever had was when you
Speaker 1: were that cow and you talked about like I want
Speaker 1: to grow up and be made a leather purse, because
Speaker 1: that's track, that's the versus. Your other jokes were like
Speaker 1: and move over, honey, and that is laffy taffy. You
Speaker 1: have to push, honey, and you were not pushing. You
Speaker 1: were drawing on your head with a sharp be honey.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I saw you on some
Speaker 1: random Wow of wonder Um YouTube show and you looked
Speaker 1: green in the phase like you were about to vomit.
Speaker 1: Your makeup was ra ball. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: You were spokes loved by gay people everywhere, and I
Speaker 1: do not get it. I got in a fight with
Speaker 1: a bar about how Violet was better than you, and
Speaker 1: I really would have punched the guy in the face.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand anything. I was like, she was not funny.
Speaker 1: Violet was so good. I don't think so, honey. You
Speaker 1: were bad at fashion, you were bad at comedy. You're
Speaker 1: singing was okay and honestly was okay. But you were
Speaker 1: a whiner. You were a diner. I gotta get out
Speaker 1: of you. I don't think so, honey. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see a guy I will say, I'm going to
Speaker 1: come for you about attacking her fashion. She was so bad.
Speaker 1: It might have been a little basic. It wasn't bad.
Speaker 1: It was bad. It was like it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: Nasha Lopez in a barrel corset. Well, that's what I
Speaker 1: was about to say. She just looked like a plain
Speaker 1: average tract when she had to make her own ship.
Speaker 1: It was maybe I'm forgetting because she was terrible. That
Speaker 1: was really bad. When they had the tits together, her
Speaker 1: new delusion, no thingusion terrible. Didn't she do good at
Speaker 1: the half man half woman? Everyone did everyone that That
Speaker 1: was kind of annoying because it's like, no one's going
Speaker 1: to do that bad, Like for that only reason, that
Speaker 1: was a thing that Pearl could just keep surviving. I think, like,
Speaker 1: here's a man. We gotta capitalize on the fact that
Speaker 1: this is a hot fucking dude. Yeah. I don't think
Speaker 1: they made them so men's clothing, which is hard to
Speaker 1: do for fashion designers into a dress. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think they were given for a lot of those challenges.
Speaker 1: They're given garment, yeah, or wigs, even for those like sides.
Speaker 1: I was like Georgie said, drink the Empire challenge. They
Speaker 1: gave them like wigs. Her wig was following. Here's a question.
Speaker 1: If you put all the miss congenialities in a drag
Speaker 1: race together two winds, it's bend la Creme, Latreceta simply
Speaker 1: Pandora box and who was like, no, no, no, you
Speaker 1: sorry it wasn't Joy And did they do miss Congeniality
Speaker 1: season one? I don't know, was it Nina Flowers? Flowers?
Speaker 1: And then wait did we skip win oh? Ivy Winters II.
Speaker 1: I Latrise could have won the show, honestly, think that's
Speaker 1: the weirdest not in the final three of any same
Speaker 1: s UM much weirder than totally. I think Latrise could
Speaker 1: have one. It just depends on how strong I think.
Speaker 1: I think Latrise maybe wins against Um, yes, just because
Speaker 1: that I love Violet, but that was her season to win.
Speaker 1: I just literally involuntarily pictured Latrise eating Violet. Cool. That's
Speaker 1: a good image. Should we move on to the lassure
Speaker 1: of the week. I think it's a chime for culture
Speaker 1: of the week right now, for for casual viewers listeners, um,
Speaker 1: culture of the Week, I need a reminder action. Culture
Speaker 1: of the Week is actually really um. It's where we
Speaker 1: really die of deep into the reaches of culture and
Speaker 1: we we we swim out there and we swim down
Speaker 1: UM and grab the shell that is our favorite piece
Speaker 1: of culture. We get back up to the surface. We
Speaker 1: um have the shell over the water, and we say
Speaker 1: this to the sky and we apply new criticism. The
Speaker 1: sun beats down on us on the shell and it
Speaker 1: shines and everyone on land can see it. I I
Speaker 1: get it now. So we're going to do that with
Speaker 1: culture now. And I don't know, Bowen, do you have
Speaker 1: an idea of what your favorite culture? And um, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'll keep it. I'll keep it short, okay,
Speaker 1: but um, it's got to be the line. The line
Speaker 1: for it A small world because you're seeing a huge
Speaker 1: part of the ride. I'm sorry you can see so
Speaker 1: much of the ride while you're on the Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that. And you're really mentally preparing yourself for what
Speaker 1: visually is in store for you. Absolutely, and you know
Speaker 1: you're getting you're getting a lot of culture. You're getting
Speaker 1: a lot of culture. It's literal, literal culture from in
Speaker 1: the world. You start off with what a Scandinavia? No, okay,
Speaker 1: well you know what I'm just gonna say. It's some
Speaker 1: nondescript European people are in over overalls and like little
Speaker 1: hats with feathers. Beautiful and how did the song go?
Speaker 1: It's a world of laughter, a world of tears, A
Speaker 1: world of something, a world of fears, world of wonder.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a small world up. They needn't re record
Speaker 1: the song. I think, just with me doing it, it's
Speaker 1: a small world. I think one of them has yes,
Speaker 1: like on the Disney Channel, like Imagination Tina. Actually Aaron
Speaker 1: has such a gift for naming characters. Absolutely, this is
Speaker 1: this is literally the first time we ever met. And
Speaker 1: you don't remember this, but we did the Rug Show
Speaker 1: and we were placed on the same team. We were
Speaker 1: We did remember we were in a car together. We
Speaker 1: were in a car together and we were doing a
Speaker 1: scene where you had like picked me up off the
Speaker 1: Internet or something. Yeah, And I eventually was like, what's
Speaker 1: your name? And and he goes, my name's Trash and
Speaker 1: I was like, And then it was a quick edit.
Speaker 1: I think. I think, I think like Pat Rigan edited.
Speaker 1: Thank god. Was that really the first time we met?
Speaker 1: That was before that I knew you? Did we first
Speaker 1: meet at Story Pirates? No, that's you guys first met
Speaker 1: that that Now we went out to the club that
Speaker 1: when first, but at Cotillion or at training. I met
Speaker 1: you a Cotillion, not because I wasn't in your year.
Speaker 1: I was the year after you and I famously were
Speaker 1: the same year and then, and yes, I knew I
Speaker 1: had known you years prior because so popular entering. I
Speaker 1: thought he was an old pirate. That is not true. Else, Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember you came in the room when you were late,
Speaker 1: and everybody like cheered and stuff and people knew you
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I guess he's an old
Speaker 1: part here for a trainer. Remember I used to watch
Speaker 1: in cage match years ago with his team boy Butter
Speaker 1: because that he was on a team with David was
Speaker 1: on that team. Yes, Riley love legends. Matt. What's your
Speaker 1: what's your culture of the week? Oh? My culture of
Speaker 1: the week. Well, I've really been thinking about it and
Speaker 1: I think that my culture of the week is actually
Speaker 1: the restaurant UM in parts of the Caribbean that you
Speaker 1: can sit at and watch as the boats go by. Love.
Speaker 1: The reason I love this is, um, this is a
Speaker 1: Disneyland in not disney World. Yeah, you know Anaheim honey,
Speaker 1: and not Anaheim honey. Everyone when you visit Anaheim, you
Speaker 1: have to go to Disneyland. You have to. Um. I
Speaker 1: like it because I like to we know you're visiting,
Speaker 1: but you know you're a girl when you do girl. Um,
Speaker 1: I love two things, eating and anticipation. And oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's totally what. You went too far with that one
Speaker 1: really think of that was on the mic. I didn't
Speaker 1: even say it out loud. We really might have well anyway, No,
Speaker 1: I just want to talk about the restaurant because it
Speaker 1: is my time, so I just want to make sure
Speaker 1: that I get my time. Um. I remember had a
Speaker 1: really good meal there. I had something called like a
Speaker 1: Bayou burger or whatever. I sat there. It's it's really
Speaker 1: nice and I really enjoyed it. He cares, Who fucking cares?
Speaker 1: You cannot get your life. You can't. You can't even
Speaker 1: get your sweetie, sweetie, you cannot get your life. You
Speaker 1: can't even get your life. Enough time to let me
Speaker 1: sit here and do my fucking segment. Honey. I was
Speaker 1: asking the you had passed it, and then I had,
Speaker 1: and then you don't take it back? Relay works bit, Honey.
Speaker 1: I was throwing it to you, Honey, I was giving
Speaker 1: you don't you don't throw the relay baton you pass it?
Speaker 1: You know what. That's enough of that. I think that's
Speaker 1: I think it's clear that you can't even get your life.
Speaker 1: Not I but not even a hand it to you
Speaker 1: like a relay baton you drop that I'm not the
Speaker 1: one calling for edits calling for things to be cut
Speaker 1: out of this episode. I feel very attacked. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: they're totally Bianca. Like I'm just a stranger. Don't tell
Speaker 1: him to go right to his head. Can I say
Speaker 1: I have a memory about that restaurant? Is this your
Speaker 1: culture is just a quick content. I would ride that
Speaker 1: ride and always hear the forks and knives clanking and
Speaker 1: went before you go down the drop. And I was
Speaker 1: like that restaurant is every thing, and wanted to go
Speaker 1: for years. And then we got to go and was
Speaker 1: like ten and truly was like I was at per Se.
Speaker 1: It was like I was there. Did you go to
Speaker 1: you a Disney kid? I didn't go all the time,
Speaker 1: but I went concernative radio host. He's like, over, um,
Speaker 1: I went a bunch of times, not a bunch of times,
Speaker 1: but we oh, I go twice a year. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wasn't like that. I loved Disney to this day. No,
Speaker 1: I I love and you know what you're serious? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, you know it would be so fun as
Speaker 1: if we all go. It was so we had to
Speaker 1: fill an honor, to be a part of that canon legacy,
Speaker 1: to be involved. We were thinking about one night, and
Speaker 1: then there's Henry person. Henry really good. Alright, So, Aaron,
Speaker 1: your culture this week and it should be anything, anything,
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Um, I'll have to say my true
Speaker 1: culture the week. I guess I'll just give it to
Speaker 1: Reality TV because it's been the Drag Race finale, which
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of you listening caught that,
Speaker 1: but the drag Race finally was this week, and also
Speaker 1: the niche episode yet also the Survivor finale is Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and I know no one cares about that, but anyone
Speaker 1: who knows me is I am a huge talking to
Speaker 1: my friend Blair Beacon and you're a Sunline yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I guess, communicated on the Facebook dot com yes, And
Speaker 1: oh my god, I have some stuff that I can't
Speaker 1: even I cannot say on the mic about next season
Speaker 1: of Surviving. Someone someone on next season of Surviving. We'll
Speaker 1: tell you. You know, you know her or him or him?
Speaker 1: It's her him, My god. So my culture of the
Speaker 1: week is Reality TV. Thank you Survivor. That more importantly,
Speaker 1: thank you drag Race, but thank you finale. Thank you finale.
Speaker 1: Never We'll never forget Richard Hatch first, Kelly Wigglesworth. Oh
Speaker 1: that was so good. That is true iconic. We'll never
Speaker 1: forget Klobe Donaldson versus Tina west On. So in high school,
Speaker 1: we all I had sixteen friends, we all picked someone
Speaker 1: before the season started and would light candles and in
Speaker 1: the end of every episode blow it out and I
Speaker 1: was coldy. So I made it all the way to finale.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Also, you know what, never forget ve
Speaker 1: Sepia Towering rule number one, forget Sepia Towery, literally Vesepia Towery.
Speaker 1: Forgot ve Sepia Towery until you just said her name.
Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about to be like taking a take
Speaker 1: or leave this, But I remember, no one could figure
Speaker 1: out why ve Sepia had one. She like even she
Speaker 1: was like clueless, like it was like she wanted. Everyone
Speaker 1: was like what I remember, they all have to go
Speaker 1: and like talk about the like feelings they had, and
Speaker 1: she was like, I just learned, like don't throw away
Speaker 1: the end of a piece of the end of a
Speaker 1: loaf of bread. Then then then were they were like
Speaker 1: Sepia talked to us about your strategy and she was like, well, um,
Speaker 1: there were times when I would, you know, mix it
Speaker 1: up a little bit, and you gotta do that, you
Speaker 1: gotta mix it up, and I would, I would make
Speaker 1: people think they were a leader, and they were. And
Speaker 1: then I want it was early surviving that you offered
Speaker 1: me the choices to take it or leave it, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. What you just said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take it. You know what I'm gonna take from you,
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna demand from How is your culture of
Speaker 1: the week? Oh yes, well, guys, James Blake's new album,
Speaker 1: I really do think is a full realization of what
Speaker 1: he does. It's not as um, it's it's vast. Some
Speaker 1: people think there's too much to it, but every song
Speaker 1: to me really is like hitting the spots that I
Speaker 1: think he should be. But that's not my culture of
Speaker 1: the week. I would say, when you're on sore in California, um,
Speaker 1: by the world, let me just tell you quick before
Speaker 1: it changes. One fun thing to do is going there
Speaker 1: with a golf ball in your pocket and when you're
Speaker 1: soaring over that golf course, hold on, hold on. When
Speaker 1: you're soaring over that golf course and they you see
Speaker 1: the guy you see the guy and he's swinging that
Speaker 1: golf You reach your hand out with a golf ball
Speaker 1: and you yell, caught it. That is fun. Can people
Speaker 1: freak the funk out? People are laughing at you heard
Speaker 1: this from You have not done that. They are Aaron
Speaker 1: Anaheim and you're in Anaheim. You do what you pull
Speaker 1: the trick. My favorite part about store and if you're
Speaker 1: gonna be in Anaheim, you better bring your tricks to Okay,
Speaker 1: and guess what you can get go off alls in
Speaker 1: Anaheim to that. That's rule number three hundred seventy five culture.
Speaker 1: When you're in Anaheim, your tricks. Listen. My favorite part
Speaker 1: about store in California is the smell of the oranges.
Speaker 1: Oh I love the smell of the oranges. Can you
Speaker 1: know soon I had to remove headphones. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: the first time, you know. I got a note from
Speaker 1: my producers that said I was too loud, and now
Speaker 1: I've been louder Um. I have some tea. Spill about
Speaker 1: Orlando theme parks. If you guys spill about Disney watching him?
Speaker 1: So okay, so listen, you are getting louder, but I'm
Speaker 1: getting more excited. At the end of the day, Like
Speaker 1: this is what I really always want to talk about.
Speaker 1: It's like Disney. I'm a big Disney head. Oh I
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about culture that shape me would be
Speaker 1: like that Ashman mankin era absolutely and classics rend is
Speaker 1: renaissance does so anyway, Okay, so listen coming soon, like
Speaker 1: what I mean soon to Epcot. It's been real being
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're talking about Orlando. It we're talking
Speaker 1: about Orlando, honey. And guess what did it ever really
Speaker 1: make sense for scoring over California? No? What did it?
Speaker 1: And you know what the powers that be it was
Speaker 1: over California and Orlando. What a terrible idea for what's
Speaker 1: a great But it's like, we're just gonna we're gonna
Speaker 1: go over California. What nonsense? Who cares? So basically they're
Speaker 1: turned it into sord over the so smart. I love
Speaker 1: that that's Disney. That's a Disney. That's a Disney. I
Speaker 1: love that's also and also that bird is, you know,
Speaker 1: flying around the whole world writer door. Also coming to Epcott.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, girl, here we go. Ever after, it's a
Speaker 1: flume ride hunting and it places you in the world
Speaker 1: of Frozen in what park is this. There was a
Speaker 1: ride called Maelstrom, which was a retelling of the history
Speaker 1: of Norway. I had to say Epcot, which is great.
Speaker 1: It had a learning curve to her. Okay, so I
Speaker 1: literally Malstrom. They had to replace it though, because it
Speaker 1: was a story of Norway. But it was literally like
Speaker 1: you take a flume ride into some woods, you go
Speaker 1: up a vertical thing, a three headed troll which sends
Speaker 1: you back. Then all of a sudden you open out
Speaker 1: and it's like about oil tanks. It's like, but in Norway,
Speaker 1: they do believe that ship for real, like that. They're
Speaker 1: my people are Norwegian. They're big on like fairies and trolls,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, that's three he's saying, that's fine,
Speaker 1: it's the oil he's but you were saying, is it
Speaker 1: fantasy or is it real? To them, they are real, Okay,
Speaker 1: So that part of their culture. The trolls existed in
Speaker 1: the same world as the oil tank. That is a
Speaker 1: part of their culture. And I understand. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: was wrong. You were talking about the matter horn with
Speaker 1: the Abombino snowman. Oh, yes, you're right. I conflated those.
Speaker 1: I just din't remember I remember doing that because my
Speaker 1: granddad is Norwegian. He's like, we have to go on
Speaker 1: this and you were like, this one more little piece
Speaker 1: of tea over our friends over at Universal. Yes, so
Speaker 1: Skull Island, good friends of the Skull Island. Reign of
Speaker 1: Kong will be opening up this summer trackless and this
Speaker 1: is not an Anaheim. This is Indo or Los Angeles. Joe,
Speaker 1: Home of the Free, Home of the Min's, Home of
Speaker 1: the Brave. And you know Gingerman is going to be
Speaker 1: at the opening of Skull Island Reign of Kong. She's
Speaker 1: one of the Skull. She's gonna be one of the
Speaker 1: old beat because she was one of the Skull. Truly
Speaker 1: feel bad coming. I just feel bad. She was just
Speaker 1: trying to do her art and people like her. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying alloud, guys. What we're gonna get is
Speaker 1: we're gonna get three sixty three D screens that you
Speaker 1: actually move on. It's a trackless, seventy two person vehicle,
Speaker 1: and each one that's gonna be four has its own
Speaker 1: story depending on the animatronic figuring out striving. And they
Speaker 1: say the guides the guide's hole ripped out of the
Speaker 1: thing by King Kong himself. By an animatronic hand for
Speaker 1: the guide will be there at the beginning and then afterwards. Guy,
Speaker 1: I love that it's going to be very Jaws, right,
Speaker 1: very Jaws. It's going to be very interactive. Apparently there's
Speaker 1: live actors in the ride, at which I always love
Speaker 1: a live actor. I mean you are one. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: More work. What's going more work? What's going word Jaws? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, you know, because I know Jaws that
Speaker 1: you were black for a year. I was very upset,
Speaker 1: and you know, a couple of us, a couple of us.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a georget very badly. In fact,
Speaker 1: you know what understanding, Matt and I have been developing
Speaker 1: a show for many years. It's about we need to
Speaker 1: get started, throw it on stage. Developing for many years.
Speaker 1: I have really started the whole like six minutes we've talked.
Speaker 1: I do, I know, I know what I'm off book
Speaker 1: on the right, and I'm attached to direct. Josh's attached
Speaker 1: to direct. It's gonna be called Matt Roger's Great Adventures
Speaker 1: Deadline dot Com. Okay, give it this, and I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: rest in peace, Jaws. But now, what's happening with the
Speaker 1: Jaws ride. Well, it's it's fully green goots. Now, oh
Speaker 1: I got my life? Yeah, but David mazzon Greens so sorry.
Speaker 1: Is a bank in the Harry Potter World and now
Speaker 1: they've made a ride. So the fun thing about the
Speaker 1: bank is to get to your safe. There's a lot
Speaker 1: going on in a Goblin to write turns, write a dragon.
Speaker 1: Yuess who's in the ride? Guess who's like the main
Speaker 1: villain in the ride? Bottom Harder your Life? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I loved that. Helen the bottom Carter. That's great, and
Speaker 1: you know what you're placing Twister is the night Show
Speaker 1: with Jimmy fallon the ride that's stupid. But in the
Speaker 1: world of Jurassic World, yes, I have to say I well,
Speaker 1: I got my life at Harry Potter World. But I
Speaker 1: was so excited to write Jurassic Park. I heard about
Speaker 1: it for years. They were exposed wires that a referee,
Speaker 1: especially a Jurassic World out I think miss I think
Speaker 1: that you will seeventially with the Jurassic World sequel, which
Speaker 1: is happening, which I don't know what. I couldn't be
Speaker 1: more excited. We saw it was a reason for Jurassic World.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys, And honestly, I
Speaker 1: understand that we need to end this, but this is
Speaker 1: something I feel really strongly about because I was very conflicted,
Speaker 1: and Sudie and I when we saw this, we turned
Speaker 1: to each other and said, what Jurassic World. Jurassic World.
Speaker 1: The scene don't come from my girl laptus No, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to was the best part. My dad said
Speaker 1: that he didn't who she was. When I was explaining,
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, that was the best part of
Speaker 1: the movie. She was her little laugh line. I agree that. Famously.
Speaker 1: We took to see Si. She as a man to
Speaker 1: do stick. Okay, well, never about our read. Well, he
Speaker 1: saw Si as the man. Did you stand up? That's
Speaker 1: what I wanted to say. He thought that was slow,
Speaker 1: but you already said it. We took her. I ran,
Speaker 1: I ran into the shares. I made it tonight at
Speaker 1: an audition, and she's well loves to share. My dad
Speaker 1: loves this share. My dad loves live comedy. I love life.
Speaker 1: As soon as you said the sand, I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to finish it, but you knew there was going to
Speaker 1: be a nag. Has He's been concerned about the nags
Speaker 1: that all this whole time. Neither you can get you.
Speaker 1: I feel Aaron and I are very attacked. Did you
Speaker 1: not edit this thing at all? You just put it out? Well,
Speaker 1: why would you edit it? Every podcast you edit? You
Speaker 1: don't know this one needs because it's a little on
Speaker 1: the long side. But I of course took it into
Speaker 1: this zone by needing to talk about my Orlando. Yeah. Wait,
Speaker 1: what were you going to the Jurassic World thing? Well,
Speaker 1: Jurassic World, you know it's getting a sequel, hopefull labell
Speaker 1: see Bryce Stallas back. But I want to do Bryce
Speaker 1: Styllis Howard. The ride is what I'm saying. Whatever everyone
Speaker 1: puts on heels and outruns the t rex. What is
Speaker 1: this question that you so, I'm saying, I think you
Speaker 1: might see Jurassic Park the section theme park get more.
Speaker 1: And they've been saying, actually, the land opened and there
Speaker 1: was plans to do a Jurassic Park jeep adventure, which
Speaker 1: would have been state of the art, but they already
Speaker 1: had the Jurassic Park to ride the water version from Hollywood,
Speaker 1: and they just said, you know what, let's just cut
Speaker 1: the cost of creating something new and transplanet so many
Speaker 1: other Rule number six of culture you can, and they
Speaker 1: have learned that with Harry Potter World if you invest,
Speaker 1: as Dave A. Mazzoni said after we got out of
Speaker 1: Greens for grets in one of the classic lines, So
Speaker 1: the Jurassic World ride, that's what I said you to Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Jurassic World the movie, the part where the British Lady
Speaker 1: gets the British Lady gets fucking and there's like a
Speaker 1: thirty five to forty twond like scene where she gets
Speaker 1: really really killed. You could almost I'm not throwing rape around,
Speaker 1: but it's like it truly like it's torture. It was torture,
Speaker 1: and what are our thoughts about that? Earned No, I
Speaker 1: hated it. I thought, why don't you kill Vincent din Afria?
Speaker 1: That he was the movie, that he was. All she
Speaker 1: had ever done in the movie was like be on
Speaker 1: a cell phone And I was like what And then
Speaker 1: they're like kill. I feel like I do think like
Speaker 1: maybe they edited out some stuff where she was like
Speaker 1: really a bit to the kids, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, Everything about movies and especially movie deaths,
Speaker 1: is the character has to always if it's a villain
Speaker 1: or like anything like that. The characters should always deserve
Speaker 1: the punishment. Again, Lady in the Water, there's this flimsy
Speaker 1: thing where there's this character who's a movie critic and
Speaker 1: you're supposed to hate him, and it's right at the
Speaker 1: points him Knight's career was, you know, quaking, and so
Speaker 1: he puts this character in who's like, I'm a critic
Speaker 1: of movies and I ain't't get it, and you as
Speaker 1: the audience are just supposed to supposed to hate this
Speaker 1: guy and they've given you nothing other than that, And
Speaker 1: they literally cut out stylistically to this scene where the
Speaker 1: monster is killing him and it goes into like monster vision.
Speaker 1: It's the only time they do in the whole movie,
Speaker 1: and he like hunts him down and devours him, and
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be like a moment. The whole place
Speaker 1: is just like what you can You can't kill Bob,
Speaker 1: the most lovable person to watch. Yeah, you love I'm protecting.
Speaker 1: It was like so sadly refererential, self referential. You know
Speaker 1: what movie character that didn't die in a movie would
Speaker 1: you kill horribly? I say Misgeist from Clue, And I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding what I thought, Oh my god, I didn't
Speaker 1: die in a movie. Who didn't die in a movie? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think the old man should have died at the
Speaker 1: beginning of up to like, just letting him and the
Speaker 1: wife die and let that boy run around. You were
Speaker 1: that boy, that bird boy with that dumb talking dog
Speaker 1: run around, Doug the dog with the memory. If you're
Speaker 1: going for a movie, I say, they killed Lucifer the
Speaker 1: cat in Cinderella, But I think you could go for
Speaker 1: the stepmother. Yeah, they should have killed her. You could
Speaker 1: go from the socked um they should have killed. They
Speaker 1: don't kill Cruella, which is good. Yeah, you don't want
Speaker 1: you don't want Cruella down? Oh you want her to
Speaker 1: bring her back? Give me? They made it. It's terrible.
Speaker 1: I know they should have killed Did you like live action?
Speaker 1: Is it bad? I don't remember the Glen Close one.
Speaker 1: You know what I listened to today three times? Glenn
Speaker 1: Close sing as if we never said a good bye. Beautiful.
Speaker 1: She's an amazing singer. But wait, you've seen her. You've
Speaker 1: seen her national anthem. That's so bad as no, the
Speaker 1: national anthem you have it. It's very bad. But Glen
Speaker 1: Close is a beautiful singer, and it was just a
Speaker 1: bad moment, but it is it is like you will
Speaker 1: laugh and watch it ten times in a row because
Speaker 1: it's so funny. But yeah, we must. You know what, guys,
Speaker 1: I think with that suggestion, I think that it might
Speaker 1: be time to put a cap in this episode. Um,
Speaker 1: Josh sharpern Aaron, what do you guys? What do you
Speaker 1: guys have coming up that you want people to All
Speaker 1: Stars too? I'm gonna be on All Stars to Josh
Speaker 1: Sharper is gonna be Repel's Drags All Stars? When's the
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Speaker 1: You know what I love about that show is it's
Speaker 1: like they have like probably too, like a gay comics
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Speaker 1: and on Sunday nights because I work on sundaynights. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: this has been the last Culture Reasons podcast. As always,
Speaker 1: my name is Matt Dame is yang bitch And let
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