1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: I am all in, Kiss you, I am all in 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey Everybody, 3 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast one eleven productions, 4 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. We are here with Jason Kravitz, who 5 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: appeared as Dwight in season three episode five eight o'clock 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: at the Oasis. He was the uh, the new neighbor 7 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: across the street who came over and asked Laurelai to 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: uh water his lawn and then mow his lawn and 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: then go inside and all kinds of things. Um. Very 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: memorable character. Um. And Jason has an extraordinarily um uh 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: long and distinguished resume. And we'll get into that later, 12 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: but let's get into the Gilmore stuff. Jason, thanks for 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: coming on. Welcome. Good to meet you, pleasure. Hey, good 14 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: to meet you too. And we thoroughly enjoyed all of us. Uh, 15 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: the team enjoyed your performance. We were, we were. It 16 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: was side splitting funny. Um. And that was the only 17 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: episode of Girl Gilmore Girls you did. But it's so memorable. 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: How did you get the role? This is an audition 19 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: for a role in you know, the same way you 20 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: get a lot of jobs in this business. Your agents 21 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: put you up for a role, your audition and hopefully 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: you get the part. This kiss it worked out good, 23 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: good good. Um we actually would have loved to have 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: seen more of you. Um ah. So what do you 25 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: remember about being on set? Oh? Well, I remember, you know, 26 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: working with Lauren, who was really nice. I enjoyed working 27 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: with her a lot. And I remember immediately first thing 28 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: as I got onto the set, I was told the 29 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: script supervisor, uh, fast, fast for fast, the fastness of work, 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: don't out of work, don't do anything okay, And the 31 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: first take I did, I do remember. I believe I 32 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: the line had sometimes you're forgetting me. I don't remember 33 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: the line exactly, but it was something about and I 34 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: turned the corner and there it was. And I believe 35 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: I said, and I turned the corner and boom, there 36 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: it was, and I cut no boom, do not add beat, 37 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: do not at a sentence, do not at a clap. 38 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Now that it's got to be very specifical. Of course, 39 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: that's how Amy Shumpalasina rights her stuff, and I totally 40 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: respect that. I just had no idea until I was 41 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: on the set that that was in need case. So 42 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: that's my that's my overarching memory and also the fact 43 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: that you know, being in stars Holland and being around 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: that set was really phenomenal. Actually, it's a nice place 45 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: to be. It was a nice place to go to work. 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: It was it was great. It was great for the 47 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: for the time I was there. Um, I have a 48 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: fun Stars Hollow story though if I'm Gilmore story that 49 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: will come into play with people who know this this 50 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: actress from other Amy Shrump things and the second Uh 51 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls incarnation. When I a few years after I 52 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: did this episode, I was in l A doing a 53 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: pre Broadway run of a musical called The Drowsy Shop 54 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: Grow and The Drowsy Shop Erne starred. Uh Stutton Foster, 55 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: of course at that time, was that Tony Award winner 56 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: for thirty Modern Millie and she also eventually was on 57 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: the lead on Bun Headsman the next show, and then 58 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: appeared in Gilmore Girls The Red Boot. So Uh, but 59 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: she was not She was just a big Gilmore Girls 60 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: fan at the time. And I was staying with you. 61 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: We're all staying in the same area, and I was 62 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: still in touch with the people of Gilmore Roles, especially 63 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: one of the casting directors Uh and Uh I said 64 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: to Sutton deep do you want to go on set? 65 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: And I'm sure we can get on in the warder lot. 66 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: I just called my you know, call my friend Jamie 67 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: who is Jimmy want the casting directors and she said, 68 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: I'd love that. So I got to bring Sutton Foster 69 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: two Stars Hollow and she I've never seen anything like it. 70 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: People look at she looked at the world around her 71 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: the way that people look at her now. Who are 72 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 1: fans of fun? Heads? Who are fun who are who 73 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: are broad in musical fans? Um. She was really dumb 74 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: struck by the whole thing. And she got to meet 75 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: Lauren and she was really nervous, and it was just 76 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: one of those really magical moments to be in that 77 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: in that place with somebody who was such a huge 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: fan of the show. Yeah, that's uh yeah it it 79 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: was overwhelming from me and I was in the cast, 80 00:04:54,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: so I know what you're talking about. Um. Um. So 81 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: the tone and the banter that you had with with 82 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: with Lauren, it was it was really really perfect. How 83 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: much did you get to rehearse that with her before 84 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: you would shoot? Very little? We shot pretty quick because 85 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, they moved pretty fast and upset, and uh, 86 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: I think, you know, having seen the show, you knew 87 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: exactly what to expect in the way of a rhythm. 88 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: Um So, even though I had my little, you know, 89 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: mistake earlier, it was easy with Lauren, who was such 90 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: a professional in the situation. It was very accepted and 91 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: we just kind of take it off very quickly, so 92 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: it was very little rehearsal and just kind of swam 93 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: right into it. Do you get recognized as Dwight when 94 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: you're out in public? I really do. And the first 95 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: time that happened to me, I had forgotten the name 96 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: of my character. You know. It was years and years later, 97 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: and even just it happened about four years ago in 98 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: New York City. I was going through Macy's and somebody 99 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: who was like temporarily working in for the holidays stopped 100 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: me and said, oh my gosh, it's Dwight from eight 101 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 1: o'clock at the Oasis. And I said, who was pretty 102 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: talking about? She goes Gilmore, Gilmore Gilmore And you couldn't 103 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: be were you boring by that point because she was 104 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: probably money? And she said, oh my gosh, I just 105 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: watched it again. Oh I love that show so much, 106 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: and you're Dwight. Oh my god. So and then since 107 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: then I've gotten stopped. Since it's been back on the air, 108 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, wherever it's been playing, it's got a lot 109 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: of recognition for Dwight. It's really amazing. Have you ever 110 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: met anybody? Have you ever met anybody like him? Dwight? Oh, 111 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean any's characters exist in a in 112 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: a kind of a hyper real world in some ways. 113 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't know any he talks at that pace, but 114 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: somebody who's that fastidious and somebody who's that also. It's 115 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: what I loved about this character is clearly the character 116 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: is supposed to be a bit of a nerd. You know, 117 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: he's got this fascination with peaky things, and he's got 118 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: very specific watering of his plants, and he's gone to 119 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: a divorce, and and yet there's something super confident about him. 120 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: You know, he was happy, very you know, gregarious of 121 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: meeting his neighbors and smiley and and something very positive 122 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: about him that you don't usually find in characters that 123 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: people write that are that are more nebishy. Really, So 124 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: I found that really fun. Yeah. Uma, So you've done 125 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,679 Speaker 1: a lot of work on TV and Broadway most recently 126 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: and be Positive and c I S and the undoing. Um, 127 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: very diverse. Do you have a favorite genre of of 128 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: work that you've done. I really, I really don't, because 129 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: I I think when I was a kid, I just 130 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: wanted to do everything. So I wanted to be really 131 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: adapt and everything. I wanted to be able to do 132 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: everything everything from uh, song and dance to to you know, Shakespeare, 133 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: Moliere and dramas on television. And one of the one 134 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: of the shows that I was most known for early 135 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: on was The Practice, where I was a lawyer for 136 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: two years and very mean lawyer. But I had come 137 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: from the world of comedies, so it was like I 138 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: was loving the opportunity to sink my teeth into anything 139 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: like that. So I don't. I really kind of like 140 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: doing at all I can if people give me the opportunity. Um. 141 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: So you're writing as well, You're doing comedy, doing all 142 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Are you always creating? I mean it's 143 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: you wake up and this is what you do. I 144 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: think that. Um yeah, I get really I get really 145 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: induced by doing the creative things. Uh. This business as 146 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: a business so fickle, and even I feel like I 147 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: do have a bit of a decent track record, a 148 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: good resume, But I go long periods of time without 149 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: getting the opportunity to audition for things or participate in 150 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the business. So I am constantly looking for ways to 151 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: either entertain myself or entertain other people. So I think 152 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: that's been part of my life, is just being creative. 153 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: So you've had three decades of experience, What's what's what's 154 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: the secret for your success? What? What is it? H? 155 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: You know, what's some funny? Uh? It depends on, of course, 156 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the ho you measure success, right, Like the fact that 157 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: I've lasted three decades is pretty much the success. I 158 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: recently found out that I'm at an age where I 159 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: can start possibly collecting my pension. And that's the first 160 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: moment in my career I felt like I made it. 161 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: I made retired. It's amazing because at certain times you 162 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: really do feel like you're retired. Um, the longevity I 163 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: think longevity is what I consider successful is the fact 164 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: that I'm still stuck around. And I think you have 165 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: to be Uh, you have to be able to deal 166 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: with projection, or at least you have to be a glutton. 167 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: You have to understand it comes out to all the time, 168 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: and um, I wish I could say I handled it 169 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: really well all the time, and I just still don't. 170 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: And I think it was instilled nearly on it that 171 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: what I was doing had value um and not just 172 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: and read more recently than it's had value beyond just 173 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: um for value beyond you know, for my own self 174 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: entertainment and the self worth, but value in the world 175 00:10:53,040 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: that that there's there's there's people appreciate having Enter Cayman 176 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: and creativity and someone doing that that they can look 177 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to in darker times. So I think recognizing that what 178 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: you do as value and I think I was taught 179 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: that early on, and even though I've wavered him up 180 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: and down, and it's been a core belief, I think. 181 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: So I got very lucky to have a family and 182 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: relationships and mentors and friends that have bullied that at 183 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: times when it's believer. So that's been helpful. Yeah, I 184 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: think you know when I when I got when I 185 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: was studying in New York. I lived in New York 186 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: for a long time and I studied, I did all 187 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: my training in New York. And the one thing that 188 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: was instilled in me that I'll never forget was what 189 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: a what a privilege and what an honor it was, 190 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: and what a calling it is to do this as 191 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: a profession, and that what a responsibility you have. Um. 192 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: And I don't think a lot of people realize that. Um. 193 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: But it takes, it does take a tremendous amount of 194 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: dedication and the rejection. Yeah, I used to take it 195 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: personally until I stopped taking it personally and realized it 196 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: was just a business decision on the other side, and 197 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: that you can't take it personally because it'll just eat 198 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: you alive and you there'll be nothing left. Um. It's 199 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: just how old were you when they happened? Though? Um? Well, 200 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: I you know, I'd come from a career where it 201 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: was just so much rejection and heartbreak that I had it. 202 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: I had a pretty thick skin coming into this. Um. 203 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: What I had was a work ethic, and I was 204 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: late to the game, so I really needed to play 205 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: catch up. Uh. And that's that's the thing that put 206 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: me over the top, was the work ethic. Um. Well, 207 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: it's funny is I had a similar but I felt 208 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: like I had it was kind of coming from behind 209 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. I grew up in the Washington, 210 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: D C. Area, and I went to school down there 211 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: to an undergrad program. I didn't go to grad school. 212 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: I worked in theater. It's a fantastic town for doing theater. 213 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: And I was able to get on my union cards 214 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: down there, but I had really had no plans to move. 215 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: I was all set, and then I had enough people 216 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: tell me, you know, you really should give this a 217 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 1: shot that I didn't move to New York. And I 218 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: was eight, thinking, Okay, the businesses here for the offing. 219 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: I'd like, it's here's here's that's all on the table. 220 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: I've been working in DC, I'll just pick up right here. 221 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: And of course that doesn't happen. So I had to 222 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: learn to hustle. But there were so many people. There 223 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: were so many people who had been there ahead of me, 224 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: who had gone to grad school, who are already working 225 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: on Broadway. And I was not able to get an 226 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: agent and the cook until I was in my mid 227 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: early early thirties and moving out to l A. Before 228 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: I started making any kind of noise. But it was 229 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: really my own hustle that did that. I ended up 230 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: writing a two man sketch comedy show in New York 231 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: that got nowhere here, but took it to l A 232 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: and just lucked in, been getting the right people in 233 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: the room and heading off to the Aspen Comedy Festival, 234 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: and then I suddenly had an agent and I said, 235 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: they had a career. It was again, you know, it's 236 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: the hustle. It's knowing that you gotta hustle, but it's 237 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: but it's creating your own content. That's a lot of 238 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: my life has been creating my own pop. That's that's 239 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: what they look for, that's what they want to sign. 240 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: You know, Like that's worked for me in that scenario. 241 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: But you know, again, but I thought, probably guys playing 242 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: catch up the whole time too, Like everybody else has 243 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: got an agent, everybody else is younger than me, and 244 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: it's been signed and is working, and I have nothing. 245 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: So I had to really scramble. But that's part of 246 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the deal. The problem a lot of people have is 247 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: they scramble when they get here and they pustle, but 248 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: they don't create. They hustle they get there, they try 249 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: to get them to connect to the agents and managers 250 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: and they're not really producing anything. And I think that 251 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: that the ability to kind of like know that I 252 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: had to follow that path as well, was gave me 253 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: a little bit an edge or maybe it's the nose. 254 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea what no one knows. Yeah, so 255 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: now we're going to get into your resume. Okay, because 256 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: this is this is uh it's extraordinary. So let me 257 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: just read this off. Okay, and uh um and and 258 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: everybody in the audience to take note. This is a 259 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: real privilege to read this off for somebody that has 260 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: this diverse resume and has been this successful. Um Film 261 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: credits include Chinese Puzzle to Step for Wives, Sweet Nose, 262 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: Sweet November Morning, Glory, Laura gets a cat Accommodations, My 263 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: dead Boyfriend, What just Happened? In an animated feature film Blink. 264 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: Ravitz has appeared in several Broadway shows, including the original 265 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: production of Tony Award winning The Drowsy Chaperone, the two 266 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: thousand three revival of Sly Fox directed by Arthur pen 267 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: We need to talk about Arthur pen um um but 268 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: the City Center on Course production of The Golden Apple, 269 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Relatively Speaking, and evening of three one Acts with Ethan Colen, 270 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: Elaine May, and Woody Allen directed by John Detro. We 271 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: have to talk about John Detro. Along with comedy partner 272 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: Drol Jones. Jason's two man Sketch Show On Evening with 273 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: Kravitz and Jones took home the Jury Award at the 274 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: nine US Comedy Festival at Aspen, Colorado. We have to 275 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: talk about Aspen, Colorado. The show is based on material 276 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: developed and long running Rumble in the Red Room Collective. 277 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: As a writer, Jason penned a ten minute Green Eggs 278 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: and Hamlet. Will you please tell me about? There's more? 279 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: But I'm im a Hamlet fanatic, a freak, my favorite play, 280 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: my favorite character. What is that all about? I've had 281 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: many things I've done on a dare, and I think 282 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: somebody said. I came up with joking one day with 283 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: somebody about green Eggs and ham and I said, oh, 284 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: green Eggs and Hamlet, and I said you should write that. 285 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: And it's a ten minute play that that starts with. 286 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: You know, there was a sad fellow named Hamlet the Dane, 287 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: and all he would do is complaining, complaint. And then 288 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Hamlet says, I come back from college, my father is 289 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: dead and my mother has married my uncle instead she 290 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: sometimes my sister. And that was my queen. What can 291 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: Let's come? If you know what I mean it just 292 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: goes on and the ghost comes out and says, would 293 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: you could you with a knife? Would you could you 294 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: take his life? You know? And it's a still devolved 295 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: from there into the sparsible ten minutes of like Dr 296 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: SEUs rhymes and people getting killed by eating poisoned breakfast fees. 297 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's just you know, because listen, I no 298 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: longer do. But uh, when my son was very small, 299 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: I would read him nothing but Dr. SEUs. And there's 300 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: nothing more brilliant as people with children know. It's all 301 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: I am, But it's all it's experience, it's it's it's 302 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: SEUs is the Shakespeare of children's books. Um. Yeah. But 303 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: my son, on the other hand, my son was when 304 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: he was a baby, his mother was rehearsing for the 305 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: role of Titania and I at one point I said 306 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: to him, what does daddy say? And he said, Daddy says, 307 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: I love you. I said, what does mommy say? He said, 308 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: Mommy said, these are the full juries of jealousy. Oh 309 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: my goodness, Oh yeah, oh my gosh. Uh. Holiday stories, 310 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: the holiday stories, the was and Bullwinkle, Yeah, the Christmas 311 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: Story Christmas. Yeah, we wrote that. My partner and Joel 312 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: and I wrote that for Universal uh years and years ago. 313 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: I never got made even own it, but we do 314 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: every once in a while we'll do a charity reading 315 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: of it. And again you know, it's all bad puns 316 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: and non secutors, if you know, bowl eagle. And then 317 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: the catch is a part of the Bridge, which is 318 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: again it's it's the Han a conversion of the Bridge 319 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: and Dr SEUs Ryan, which I love to write in. 320 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: So you graduated from University of Mayland, Maryland. You perform 321 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: extensively at the Shakespeare Theater, Roundhouse Theater and Wooly Mammoth 322 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Theater Company. Wow. Um, tell me about your love for Shakespeare. 323 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: How did you first experienced Shakespeare and what was the 324 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: first character you had to break down and play that 325 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: you performed in uh? In high school when I was 326 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: doing a summer school for the performing arts, I uh 327 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: was told by a long departed, wonderful mentor of mine 328 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: who was teaching that summer UH that I should try 329 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: Puck and just just a month alogue just doing you 330 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: know if we shadows have offended? And I got it. 331 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh this makes sense. And then 332 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: in college I I continue I mean, I studied. I 333 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: did some more in high school, you know, did the 334 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: mechanicals and did mercutio and little touches of things. But 335 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: then when I got to college, I was a freshman 336 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: and I had an upper class teacher, professor for upperclassmen, 337 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: who was leaving, and he took a few of us 338 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: underclassmen and said, I want you to study Shakespeare with me, 339 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: because I think you guys should try this. And we 340 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: did a lot of studying the John Barton Acting Shakespeare 341 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: Capes library and learning how, um, how the vocabulary work 342 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: and how the pentameter work and what that told you 343 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: about characters getting informed by the words, and I just 344 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: it was just one of my favorite things to do. 345 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: And then um, and then I had one teacher in college. 346 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: We did Loves Labors and lost Uh, And we did 347 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: it in in a park in Washington, d C. We 348 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: rehearsed it. I shouldn't say it before we reformed it 349 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: on at school, but we did one rehearsal in the 350 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: kind of a manicured park in Washington, d C. Just 351 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: give a sense of surroundings. And that led to I 352 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: did some Shakespeare after college as well. But I also 353 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: did this one project that I just came up with again, 354 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, doing creative things and finding all of your 355 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: love for things converging. I did something called Shakespeare and 356 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: the Rough, and what I did was I got a 357 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: bunch of actors together and I cast The Tempest just 358 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: randomly with actors that I knew from DC, and I said, 359 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a two day event on Saturday. We're 360 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: going to meet and read the plan. Now, anybody, there's 361 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: no director, So if you want to stop and say 362 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: I have a question about that character, or I have 363 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: some thoughts about her, I've seen a production where that 364 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: character did this. It doesn't matter who you are in 365 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: the plan. You can comment on anything about the characters. 366 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: And then the next day we went to a nature 367 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: preserve in the suburbs of Washington, d C. And I 368 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: mapped it. I gave everybody a map of the surroundings. 369 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: I said, go find where your scenes take place, but 370 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: don't rehearse them. Come back and we'll map everything out 371 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: the order of the show where things take place, will 372 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: have lunch, and then we're gonna go and we're gonna 373 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: go do one scene to one scene, and if you're 374 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: in the scene, you should take off so we can 375 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: discover you in it. But otherwise you can watch. We 376 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: didn't have an audience. We performed for each other, we 377 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: had musicians, we had just it was and I said, 378 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: just improvised it. But you also are not responsible to anybody. 379 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: You're responsible to the text. That's it. You don't have 380 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: to perform it for the other actors. It can be 381 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: like a television performance. You can even think the lines 382 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: if you feel that's the case. Of course, everyody's on book. 383 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: I was holding the script. Um. I said, you can 384 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: do whatever you want and just you know, and I 385 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: saw that play come to life in a way that 386 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: I've I've never seen it since. It was just I 387 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: mean literally, the people in the shipwreck scene that starts 388 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: the tempest, literally one of them brought a little dinghy 389 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: and put the king and the king's son and the dinghy, 390 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: and they all went up to the lake, into the 391 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: lake that we were near, up to their chest and 392 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: screened the lines of each other while they had people 393 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 1: throwing buckets of water at them from the shore. I mean, 394 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: it was like, I didn't plan that. But people, when 395 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: they're given the opportunity for the freedom to create, you 396 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: can watch it explode, and I just that's one of 397 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: my favorite experiences, even though I very I mean, I 398 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: played Caliban, I had my fund doing the character that 399 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: I usually wouldn't get casting, but watching the creativity of 400 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: people that I adored as performers anyway, just watching them 401 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: have the freedom to just go. I mean, that's that's 402 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: friend of My best Shakespeare experience is that discovering the 403 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: rehearsal processes is far more interesting thing invaluable. And yeah, 404 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm filling the actual performances. Oh I really, I really 405 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: felt like if there was if I was to direct, 406 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: uh Shakespeare played, my first rehearsal would be that give 407 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: the give the actor's first crack before you tell them, 408 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: here's what the set is, here's what the costumes are 409 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: gonna look like, here's what the theme is, and you're 410 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: all going to fit in the box that I created 411 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: in my mind. I'm going to start with letting them 412 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: play because they're gonna give me things to discover that 413 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: I They're going to discover things that I would have 414 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: discovered otherwise. So I haven't ad a chance to do 415 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: that yet, but maybe somebody. Oh God, you're making me 416 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: miss New York so much. Okay. So when I was 417 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: I had a teacher in New York named Sandra Lee, 418 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you know who she is, 419 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: but yeah, she's one of the great ladies of the theater, 420 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: right and um, she encouraged me to go um audition 421 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: for the actor's studio and long story short, six weeks 422 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: of rehearsal with my scene partner, we went in there. 423 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: They stopped us after a minute and a half and said, 424 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Went into class. Did the scene. 425 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: Learned a lot, you know. I went back to it again, 426 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: got shot down after three minutes. So it's really hard 427 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: to get in. But I was an observer. Um. I 428 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: was allowed to be in the even the playwright director sessions, 429 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: which Arthur Penn ran, and I was exposed to Arthur 430 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Penn for a couple of years. Every week it was Tuesday, No, 431 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: Tuesday was the acting Thursday or Friday was the producer 432 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: director unit. And Paul Newman would go to both of them, 433 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: Um and comment, and it was extraordinary. Tell me about 434 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: your experience with Arthur Penn. I'm usually more excited Arthur 435 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: pun Um. So uh. He directed Sly Fox. The production 436 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: originally starred Richard Dreyfus Uh with Bronson pin Show and 437 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: Bob Dishy and Eric Stolts, amongst many others, and including 438 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: Reneo Versionois Beery departed. I think Renee had the idea 439 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: to do the show, and I think he brought it 440 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: to the producer and he brought it to Arthur and 441 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: they were The producer said this is great, except we 442 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 1: can't cast you as Sly the main character. We need 443 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: to cast somebody else, like Richard Dreyfus. So I was 444 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: not in that cast, but at a certain point they 445 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: were doing a replacement cast on Broadway. Was my first 446 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: Broadway show. Uh. And they brought me in and said, uh, 447 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: I auditioned and then they said, for you know this 448 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: part called Craving the Lawyer. And they said after I 449 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: auditionally said okay, we're gonna We're gonna offer this to 450 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: you and I said that's fantastically. They said have you 451 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: seen the show and I said I haven't seen it, 452 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: and they said, okay, go tonight. But and Arthur said, 453 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: but don't pay attention to what anyone's doing because they 454 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: have ruined, they've got too big, they've stretched it out. 455 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: Just don't pay attention to what anyone's doing. And I said, 456 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: all right, Peter Scalari was immense production boy. He was 457 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: God loved it and you know the rest his soul. 458 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: He was talented in a way that nobody else was. 459 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: He was. He was a brilliant comic and clown. But 460 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: yeah he could. He could what they call stomp and feather. 461 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: You hit the joke of and you just make the 462 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: laugh last longer and longer. He was the master at that. 463 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: So I saw what Arthur was talking about. And after 464 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: the show, I went backstage and I saw Renee and 465 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: I saw a few other people and what they said, 466 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: are you doing the show? I said, yeah, I'm coming 467 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: in to replace Bronson, so playing that role. And Rene 468 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: when he says, when you're in rehearsal, don't listen to 469 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: anything that Arthur tells you. So pictured me, this is 470 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: my first Broadway show and I'm getting Arthur Kind telling 471 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: me not to pay thing to them, and they're telling 472 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: me don't listen to Arthur, and I was just like, 473 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: how does have you been here? But then but then 474 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: we spent three weeks rehearsing. Richard Kind took over for 475 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: Richard drive this uh and Bronson actually took over for 476 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: Eric Stolts, and Larry Storch came into the project. Carl Kane, 477 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: I think we were teeny another great actor, um and 478 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,479 Speaker 1: I was just surrounded by these masters, and uh, you know, 479 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: Arthur was very, uh stressed about the whole thing. I 480 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: think he was unhappy and he was trying to rend 481 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: it in um. And I took the bus with him 482 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: one day uptown, which was kind of like guitar's buying 483 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: Clyde material are right. So it was a great experience 484 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: for me. I don't know if it was a great 485 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: for him those two thousand and three How how old 486 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: was he at that time? He must have been pretty old. 487 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: He was pretty old. He was kind of career. It 488 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: might have been one of the last things he did. 489 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: Um m hmm um. John Taturo, Yeah, I first time 490 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: I saw John Taturo was at the God What was it? 491 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: It was the It was an Italian American reconciliation with 492 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Lars Angecomo and John Panco, all three performers where I 493 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: love Did you see that? Did you see that? Extraordinary? 494 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite acts. He's gotten to 495 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: prove it over and over again, especially in the last 496 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, five seven years. I mean when he did 497 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: The Night Of when he was the detective in the 498 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: Night and he was fantastic in that, and then recently 499 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: in Severance, I just you know, just watched that and 500 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: boy but he didn't walking together, just getting fantastic, fantastic phone. So, um, 501 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: he's he's a really nice guy and I definitely count 502 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: as a friend. So I'm glad to see him constantly busy. 503 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: Tell me about your experience at the Aspen Comedy Festival. Well, 504 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: that was another one of those remarkable coincidental moments that 505 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: you get. You know what they say the luck, the 506 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: crossroads between persistence an opportunity, Right, that's what luck is. 507 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: So I was very persistent. I was working on the 508 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,959 Speaker 1: show in New York and this two man comedy musical 509 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: and music and comedy show, and um, we went to 510 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: l A just on a whim. It was like, look, 511 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, we've got friends out there who want to 512 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: see our show. Let's go out there. There's this one 513 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: agent that may be interested. You know, I can invite her. 514 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: And it just so happened that it was at the 515 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: exact moment they were doing the finalists, the final judging 516 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: for the Comedy Festival for that year's Asking Comedy Festival. 517 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: So this must have been the fall of like we're 518 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: right between Thanksgiving the yearning and Thanksgiving Christmas, I mean, 519 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: and then we just did our show and we got 520 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: somehow we got Mark Hushfeld got to the show. Mark Hushfelt, 521 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: casting director for Seinfeld, went on to comedy casting. Yeah, 522 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, yes, so he's so he came to the 523 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: show and he said, look, we're doing final casting. Can 524 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: you throw together an hour long version of this for 525 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: Saturday because we only have Saturday at like four o'clock 526 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: because we're seeing comedy people at five thirty downstairs. It 527 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: was at the Improv, so you know, they had that 528 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: upstairs at the Improv up stairs behind the parking lot, 529 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: and then they were going downstairs to see uh comedians. 530 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: After that they said, okay, with your it together and 531 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: quick turn around. We ended up getting invited to the festival, 532 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: and it was overwhelming because as anybody who hustles and 533 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: shure you have knows, when we were putting our own 534 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: show up, you're pounding the payment to get people not 535 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: just not just you know, agents and comedy people, and 536 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: you're you're getting anyone comes to your show audience to 537 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: see people in the seats, such a process, and you're 538 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: doing your own costumes and you're doing your own costume 539 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: changes and it's all very bare bones. Well, you get 540 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: in ready to the Askment Comedy Festival. They got their 541 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: audiences are sold out ahead of time. You're gonna have 542 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: two fifty people at night. No matter what you do, 543 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 1: you're gonna have people backstage helping you. You would literally 544 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: have people backstage with oxygen masks because you're an aspen 545 00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: and you'd come off exhausted that So so we were like, 546 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: we were unbelievable when you're given this, you know, great opportunity, 547 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: the past of Second City years being celebrated at the festival. 548 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: So there we've got the gene Levy and we've got 549 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, Andrew Martin, We've got all these people in 550 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: the audience that are like heroes, heroes of us. And 551 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: it was like zero to sixty, you know. Two months 552 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: before that, we were upstairs at the improv like you know, 553 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: black box, like basically running our own lights and sound 554 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: as we did. And after that we it was great 555 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: to be there, but I think I was so we 556 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: had come from New York I knew anything by l A. 557 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: I didn't. I was only four years in New York 558 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: at that point, so I didn't realize the magnitude of 559 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: what we were doing and who exactly was. It was 560 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: one thing to say, well, the cast of SETV is here. 561 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: It's another thing to say, well the head of development 562 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: for ABC is here, or Castle Rock or you know, 563 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: you name the production company. Everybody's are looking for the 564 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: next thing. We didn't know that. So when we got 565 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: back to l A. Our agents were pretty small potatoes 566 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: at the time and they didn't know what to do 567 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: with that. So instead of we had a lot of meetings. 568 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: We called it the couch and water tour because you 569 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: come in and say, would you like to bottle of 570 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: water on a seat on the couch, and that's what 571 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: you would do. And what we didn't do was, oh, 572 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: you know, pitch a sitcom idea, you know, give them 573 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: some something that to work with us on. They just, 574 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, they just um. So at the end of 575 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 1: the meetings they were like, this has been great. Have 576 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: some water. The water is the consolation price. You know. 577 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: It didn't go well when they're offering you more water 578 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: on the way up because you're not going to get 579 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: any part of that. But we had no idea. We 580 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: were so naive, and by the time we figured it 581 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: out that way, if it preston and dropped. So I 582 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: was very fortunate that I was in l A and 583 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: was able to audition for a few things and end 584 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: up getting some decent roles and starting a career from that. 585 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: But I think if we had, if we had been 586 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: smarter about it, or at least as more knowledgeable about 587 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: the business, we could have a lot more pain for 588 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: our book. But as it was, the Aspen Pacible itself 589 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: was just a dream, dream true. We have time for 590 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: one last question. I could talk to I could talk 591 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: to you all day. First of all, no, no, I 592 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: have I have two more questions. Did you ever get 593 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: down to the Wooster Group and see Elizabeth Comps Uh 594 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: was Willem Dafosta? You never saw that because I was 595 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: don't forget I was in d cret in the DC 596 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: area until so the Wooster Group was still doing I 597 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: did see. One thing they did was long after William 598 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: Dafoe was you know, in Hollywood and not coming back 599 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: to do stuff. So you know, it was very a 600 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: lot of that great, organically unique pieces of theater weren't 601 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: happening at the same way, but you know, sche was here. 602 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: I think there were some great venues downtown, you know, 603 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: uh to get to and see crazy interesting stuff. But 604 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: but the heyday of that in the in the late 605 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: eighties and stuff was yeah, yeah, that's when I saw it. 606 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: Um yeah, um. What would you give if you were 607 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: to give advice to a young actor starting out? And 608 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: I know there's always one thing I tell everybody when 609 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: they asked me, what would you What would your advice 610 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: be to young actors starting out as far as what 611 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: to study, where to study? Because I think that's the 612 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: most important thing is you know when people ask me, hey, 613 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: should I move to l A and like, who have 614 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: you studied with? What do you know? You know, what 615 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: do you love? That's from every years. So you know, 616 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: if you would ask me ten fifteen years ago, I 617 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: had one answer, you know, and then I learned that 618 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: how you succeed in this business? The very simple answer 619 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: to that is, I don't know, because nobody knows. I 620 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: get into professional wrestling. Then you go, you know, why 621 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 1: are you not working right now? I don't know? Why 622 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: did you get that job? I don't know, because nobody knows. 623 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: Even the people doing the pass and even people making 624 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: the final decision, they don't really know the pain this 625 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: work because because this is never consistent, everybody thinks they 626 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: know and then it changes. Um. I always say to people, 627 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: make sure that you're you don't let the creative muscle atrophy. 628 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: You've got to be doing creative things that have nothing 629 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: to do with getting work or making it in the 630 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: business or making money, because otherwise you'll be your soul 631 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: will dry up. So make sure you're constantly like, even 632 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: if it means just going to museum, just be creative 633 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: in some way some hoow. But I think the biggest 634 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: piece of advice now for young people is get connected 635 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: to other people, because those are going to be your people, 636 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: and as you go forward, those people are going to 637 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: be doing things, and you're going to be involved in 638 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: those things, and then you're going to do things, and 639 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna have your tribe to call on and as 640 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: you guys, as one person getting success, you will be 641 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: more connected to them to a wider portion of the business. 642 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: So there's so many ways to be creative now that 643 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: is also potentially ways of getting seen. I mean, obviously 644 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: there's things like TikTok and YouTube, but there's also a 645 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: million other things you can do to get involved in business. 646 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: And there's no excuse for not getting involved in some way. 647 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: But take classes in a way, I understand your point 648 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: about like, you know, who are you studying with it? 649 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: That's really important for your to learn a lot of 650 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: the craft and you should learn the crafty strustle and 651 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,399 Speaker 1: the skills as you know. I'm sure it's like there's 652 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: a different skill set that goes along with doing a 653 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: commercial audition than on camera audition, than a theater audition 654 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: than I mean, you know, your televisioneration or a film audition. 655 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: There's very different skill sets you have to understand, and 656 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: that's something you can study, you should study. But get 657 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: yourself involved with other people and the connections you make 658 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: are the thing that can make that that's going to 659 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: make you have a career, that's going to give your 660 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: careers who you know, it always it's the same in 661 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: every business really, but I'm beginning to think that's the 662 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 1: real key to this. Just connect yourself. Yeah, it's a community, 663 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: It's definitely a community, Jason. It was a pleasure, my 664 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: pleasure listen. You know how at talking about themselves, So 665 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: you know it's a difficult thing, but I think we 666 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: got through you. What are you? What are you doing 667 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: right now? What are you working on right now? Something 668 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: coming out? What are you doing? Yeah? I have a 669 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: show that I'm doing that I've been doing for about 670 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: five years now, no more, called Off the Top, and 671 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: it was just an idea I had that's blossom into 672 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: a really bigger enterprise. It isn't a completely improvised cabaret, 673 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: by which I mean everybody writes down. People write down 674 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: suggestions ahead of time at their tables at eater. They 675 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: all put these I'm performing at Birdland right now, but 676 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: they take their suggestions put in a fish bowl, and 677 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: then I come out and I basically sing songs based 678 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: on whatever suggestion I pulled from the fish um. And 679 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: that could be a song called feature Vegetables, or it 680 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: could be a song called your Villa is Here. And 681 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: I have a band and we make up the songs 682 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: and the story as we go along. Are you in 683 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: New York right now? Are you in a I'm based 684 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: in New York at the moment, but I've done the 685 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: show a few times out there at Botello's, you know, 686 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: friend Stein's at Potelos. Now, Birdland here in New York 687 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 1: is my current home. I'm doing the show Monday, uh 688 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: this Monday the sixteenth at thirty and then I'm taking 689 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: it over to London for two shows in London. And 690 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,399 Speaker 1: uh yeah, so that's kind of been my my kind 691 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,799 Speaker 1: of side gig right now. My side hustle has just 692 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: been putting together this this silly fun and music and comedy, 693 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: terrific fun. Oh my god, I want to go. I 694 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 1: want to go. I want to go. Get on the plane. 695 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god. I keep your mask on though, that's 696 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: just you know, on the flight. All right, Jason, good 697 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 1: luck with everything. Tell people where they can tell people 698 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: where Birdland is and when when you're performing. Yes, Burgland 699 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: is Burgland Theater is at Street in near Times Square 700 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: between the eighth and ninth Avenue. It is Monday May 701 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: sixteen at eight thirty pm. You can get your tickets 702 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: at www dot Bergland Jazz dot com. Burgland Jazz dot com. 703 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: It is a guarantee it'll be a fun night. That's 704 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: all I can tell you. I have no idea what 705 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna sing. I have no idea who the character 706 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: is going to be. I have no idea what the 707 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: story is going to be, but it's it's usually a 708 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: lot of fun. At least it's for me, I hope. 709 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: It's how how long is the engagement? Does it go 710 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,280 Speaker 1: on or is it limited? Just the one off? Okay, 711 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: so just one off on the sixteen, and then hopefully 712 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: I'll be back again to fall or next year, you know, 713 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: whenever they can schedule me. All right, everybody, get out there, 714 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 1: if you're in the area, go see him. Okay, thank you, Jason, 715 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 1: all the best, good luck with everything, Good luck with 716 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 1: the London shows up and uh hope we gotta have 717 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: you back on. There's just there's so much more to unpack. 718 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 1: I didn't get the half of the stuff I wanted 719 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: to talk about. I'm here, man, I got you know, alright, London, 720 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: good deal man, good talking to you, a good meeting 721 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: you all the best team my friends. 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