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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield,

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Speaker 1: the flumbing down the sidelines. He is hanging with the boys,

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Speaker 1: presented by Wingstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts,

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross Thursday

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty four were late and it's my fault. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, you guys still get paid the same

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Speaker 1: for less work. So you're welcome eleven thirty four PM

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Speaker 1: or AM live from the Star in Frisco. You will

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Speaker 1: shortly be looking out at Tostito's championship plaza here at

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Speaker 1: Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. There just sixty

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Speaker 1: two degrees, feels like sixty one degrees. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: sixty six high, and tonight it will be forty at Chile,

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Speaker 1: forty one degrees. Fellas seventeen games, seventeen games, more football.

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Speaker 1: How are y'all doing today? Nate, you're smiling, Kurt, you're smiling.

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Speaker 1: Jesse's texting the trailer park. What's happening? Fellas well? He

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Speaker 1: just got out of shower. He worked strong on the

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Speaker 1: trailer park today. He just got out of the shower.

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Speaker 1: You know, hey, listen man, you know, man, when you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with them hogs, man, you can't. You got you

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Speaker 1: got to be ready, baby, you got hey, hey, be

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Speaker 1: kind of prime called me the Hawks and don't do that.

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Speaker 1: You work. Oh man. So we got more football now,

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Speaker 1: we got seventeen games, three preseason games. If you ask me,

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Speaker 1: there's no way they're gonna stop until you get eighteen games,

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Speaker 1: because now you have one more either home or away game,

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Speaker 1: and they alternate each year, and that's just not good

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Speaker 1: for the bottom line, is it. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to even that out to where we got to have

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Speaker 1: an extra home game for sure every year. Right at

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Speaker 1: some point, that's where we're heading. I love it. I

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Speaker 1: love it. I love it. I don't know I love

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Speaker 1: it if I was playing, I love it. The preseason games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's where I tell on the body. But

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Speaker 1: you know, there's more money for the players. Uh really,

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's let's say it may not be

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Speaker 1: a great amount more, let's a little bit more. Let's

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit more. I'm glad that you said that.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to stop Jest. You're not gonna take away

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Speaker 1: my glory brow, Jess, I'm not. I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: go ahead on, Jess. I want to hear what the

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Speaker 1: great one has to say. Because when you start talking

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Speaker 1: about there's more money for the players, right right, we

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Speaker 1: all know that this league is top heavy, right all

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Speaker 1: that you're the bulk of teams. Salaries go to a

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Speaker 1: small percentage of the football teams. So when you talk

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Speaker 1: talking about more money, yeah, your quarterbacks will get more money,

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Speaker 1: your your your your top tackles will get more money.

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Speaker 1: But when you start talking about the triple down effect

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Speaker 1: is the quarterback will get more money, the defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: will get more money, I mean defensive vading more money

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Speaker 1: than off your attackle will getting more money. The owners

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Speaker 1: are getting more money, But what about the bottom part

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Speaker 1: of that roster who takes the same beating, go to

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Speaker 1: the same training, can't put the same amount of game.

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Speaker 1: Guys like Jesse Holly, we don't really get a huge increase.

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Speaker 1: Always bringing we're always about Jesse. If I don't think

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Speaker 1: about the little people, who will me Because I'm a

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Speaker 1: person I have I can never be a little person.

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Speaker 1: But I was in your category. But but but you

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Speaker 1: are in the category and then you elevated out. I

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Speaker 1: would say this, young Jesse. I would say this, young Jesse,

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Speaker 1: this is a plus. This is a positive. Uh and

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Speaker 1: for God, for coaches, which is most coaches who like

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Speaker 1: veteran guys that give you a libit of leadway on

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Speaker 1: a young guy, you know, getting into the season quick

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Speaker 1: and taking away of preseason game. But I'd tell like

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Speaker 1: this him my friend. In the long run, maybe not

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Speaker 1: these first few years, but in the long run, I

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Speaker 1: think this to benefit the players, you know, and I know,

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Speaker 1: to benefit the fans, and to give you one more

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Speaker 1: game to gravel and crowd over your team. We just

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Speaker 1: had one more game, maybe would have guy THEID. We'll

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Speaker 1: win this one more game. You can get into playoffs.

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Speaker 1: This deal is one hundred percent about the owners. It's

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Speaker 1: a long term in all of the terms. Because just

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Speaker 1: one game. Just think about this, like, for example, the

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Speaker 1: sold out game. Regardless, that's gonna be a sold out game,

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Speaker 1: means more increased revenue at the concession stands, parking, more merchandise,

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Speaker 1: more shadowed, more, more, more, all of that. Like this deal.

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Speaker 1: And this is the part where I jes quick, Jesse,

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Speaker 1: stop stop quick counting how the folks money, bro, I'm

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Speaker 1: mister Jones money. I get y'all that damn money. That's

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Speaker 1: good money. But my thing is I'm gonna get that's

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Speaker 1: another week that we have to work, So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get an extra ten dollars for those weeks that we

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Speaker 1: have to work. So I'm cool with that. But I

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Speaker 1: just get a little bit upset when you look at

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Speaker 1: our CBA and the leaders of our CBA, the more

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Speaker 1: Smiths at and I was That's what That's where I

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Speaker 1: was going next was because this is nothing about this

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Speaker 1: deal is really a player friendly. Nothing about like it's

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Speaker 1: it's all owner friendly. And this is the thing when

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Speaker 1: when I talk about the the the players having the

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Speaker 1: worst CBA leadership, the players union leadership, we are worse

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Speaker 1: than basketball We're worse than baseball. We're worse than the

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Speaker 1: NHL because here it is, we give the owners a

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Speaker 1: seventeenth game, and uh, we're and the thing is that

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Speaker 1: we locked in for ten years and they we're locked

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Speaker 1: in for ten years. So at going back to negotiating table,

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Speaker 1: we can't do this thing about like, oh, like, how

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Speaker 1: was it that we didn't think about TV money was

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Speaker 1: coming up? Seventeenth game was coming up the agent as

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Speaker 1: I negotiate. I don't know all I can say, but

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Speaker 1: do you think I saw it? One theory that said,

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Speaker 1: because of the extra game, the longer season, you know,

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Speaker 1: believe in you. It's still a veterans league at this point.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling right, hill Man, one more game being

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Speaker 1: because we just got a Union guy saying, hey, look

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Speaker 1: possed through Jesse. One thing you said that was so true.

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Speaker 1: The owners won like you would not believe. When it

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Speaker 1: comes to revenue for this extra game. Now they don't

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Speaker 1: time of the preseason is. They know this seventeenth game

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Speaker 1: gonna be a sellout, so and even and even in

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Speaker 1: grow as we get to that third preseason game. Well,

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Speaker 1: you might see the first game, it might be that

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Speaker 1: all kind of rookie game, but game two of the preseason,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get my veterans ready to go to last game,

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Speaker 1: and then this is the game number three. I still

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Speaker 1: then maybe in the second half getting my younger guys,

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Speaker 1: the attendance is going to be greatly because the games

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Speaker 1: will have more of the recognizable faces that we know

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Speaker 1: which you'll be right around the corner. Now that you

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Speaker 1: should they have added a second bywary, I do that.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing they should have added. They should added

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Speaker 1: a second boy, I think they'll probably do that. He

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Speaker 1: just feeding jesting softball out of softball. You love your

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Speaker 1: have to come back to the players, and the prayers

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Speaker 1: the eighteen game season. Oh my god, we gotta go

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Speaker 1: a little something for you. How about we take one

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Speaker 1: give us an eighteen game season now to take regular

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Speaker 1: and go for that. Now the regular. Now you should

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Speaker 1: tell the union now that don't benefit us. Look out now,

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Speaker 1: hey man, Nope, they're gonna say, you know what they're

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Speaker 1: There's no money for you guys to have another We

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Speaker 1: try to say, I'm gonna take one of those franchise

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Speaker 1: you to do, you won't hang around here. For eight

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Speaker 1: nine games. You won't hang around, Zim. You will be

427
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: on the waiver while which you're two million dollars, which

428
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: is a lot, but you will be gone, so that

429
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: it's not a big surprise at all. I don't think, no,

430
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 1: not surprised, Kurt. Are you surprised, Kurt by the fact

431
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: that you now only have Jordans and Anthony Brown left

432
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: at your cornerbacks? So you've addressed the needs at you know,

433
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: you've signed some safeties, you've signed some defensive linemen, linebacker.

434
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 1: You're probably still a little thin cornerback. You're really thin.

435
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: Do you do you think that tips your their hand

436
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: and what they're going to do in the draft or

437
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,239
Speaker 1: they do you look for him to still add some

438
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: pieces before we get to the draft. It's gonna be

439
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: a lot of Oh, I'm sorry, Kurt not It is interesting,

440
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: and that's you know, in the past to kind of

441
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: build some depth holes like this too, so they could

442
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 1: kind of pick the field, but they haven't really done

443
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: that yet. Got her mind. I've never heard that word.

444
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that word was. Depth holes. I'm

445
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: not familiar with that term. In their depth on the roster. Okay,

446
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: as far as you know, they didn't have to. They're

447
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: try not to pigeonhole themselves where they have to get

448
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: a certain player in the draft. But they haven't really

449
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: addressed cornerback here, and so you know, I don't know

450
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: if that tightens the window and then that they have

451
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: to go get one of the cornerbacks of that tenth

452
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: pick or they freeze them up. I'm not sure, but

453
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: it's I don't even know if they can do anything

454
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: else in free agency. I mean, they've got nine to

455
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: ten million dollars left and a lot of that's got

456
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: to go to the rookie class, so they'd have to

457
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: make some more contractual moves to really bring anybody else

458
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: in here. I'll tell you, like thisis fellas you know,

459
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: we've done it before, and it's time to do it now.

460
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: Every guy that has a chance to help this team

461
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: improve as a cornerback or as that cover safety, you

462
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: have to you have to go at them if they

463
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: fit the slot. If the slot is ten, and they're

464
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: good enough to be that tenth pick, Okay, get them,

465
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: you know, don't don't look back. It ain't no tomorrow.

466
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: If you have a slight window right now, you signed

467
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: your quarterback. You've made your prayer that you have a

468
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: healthy offensive line. Now go get these corners. Let's see

469
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: what the other guys up front can do. Let's rely

470
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: on coach Quinn to develop these young guys up front

471
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: and to get them going in direct direction. Man, get

472
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: every corner, every safety that's out there moving around as

473
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: as as a rookie. I'm serious. If they can cover

474
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 1: with some type of skills set and they are solid tacklers,

475
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: let's get these guys. Let's do not mess around. Let's

476
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: do not going to training camp saying where do we

477
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: have enough corners or do we have enough safety? Sometimes

478
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: you have to sell out. And if these guys are

479
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: good enough. Now, if they're good enough, you know by

480
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: coach quinn eyes and by the pro personnel player direct eyes.

481
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: If they're good enough, get them. Don't be saying, okay,

482
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: well we got a alignment that we think that's equal.

483
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: To know the grade winds on defense. If the grades

484
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: are equal, they win on defense. Not the greatest better,

485
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: you gotta draft with you draft, but if the grades equal,

486
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: you got to go. And just for lack of a

487
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: better word, you just got the slaughter the safety and

488
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: cornerback positions at your draft pick Nate, take everything you

489
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: can get. I want to. I want to give you props.

490
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: Your your beard looks better than it ever has that

491
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: close up shot that Chris just had on you, that

492
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: one shot. That thing is trim. Yeah, it's neat. It's

493
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: usually all round. Man, did you get that shape? That?

494
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: But how did that looks good? But I mean, what, bro,

495
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: it's a you know, I want to get it once

496
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: a year, y'all got it this one year? God, I

497
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: know about the next week go to be ugly, so

498
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: it don't matter. But anyway, I'm back on these safeties

499
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: and corners. So but let me say this with the

500
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys again. I look at dan Quinn's history and what

501
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: he is as a defensive coordinator, Yes, sir, and he

502
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: wants to play a lot of Cover three like that

503
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: is that is going to be? That is so cover

504
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: three is basically the field is now cut into three thirds.

505
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: So you got a third down the middle third, right side,

506
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: left side third, and your quarterbacks usually play that in

507
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: You have from the spot that you stand all the

508
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: way back to this third of the field safety which

509
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: used to be alive Earl Thomas, you have the third

510
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: from where you stand back down the middle of the field,

511
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: and your other corner same thing from where you stand back.

512
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: So a lot of times it's it's it's gonna play

513
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: like it's gonna look like man, but it's gonna be

514
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: really cover three. And these guys. When you watch Richard Sherman,

515
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: he would always kind of start up like he was

516
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: in press coverage and then bail, but his eyes were

517
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: always looking back into the quarterback so that he's able

518
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: to jump different routes and so on and so forth.

519
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: So you look at a guy like Higgs, who I think,

520
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: you know, got some good reps last year, got some experience.

521
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: You bring Jordan Lewis back, he's going to be primarily

522
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: your your your your dominant slot corner. And then on

523
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: the other side, you want to maybe draft another corner

524
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: and have Anthony Brown rotate all around slot, left corner,

525
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: right corner. Now here's the biggest thing that I'm fearful

526
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: of in this draft, and the more I look at it,

527
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not some drivet gurgle and I'm not some

528
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: draft expert, but when you start looking about best available player,

529
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: if for some odd crazy reason, that freak of nature

530
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: pits from Gainesville, Florida. I know where you're going. It's

531
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: sitting there at number No way, no chance, no way chance,

532
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: I know, everyone says Trevor looked like very is not

533
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: good at fall let me go. Bes were affected again.

534
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: Now there's not Where are we going here? Where are

535
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: we gonegain So you're gonna give up when you look

536
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: at forty nine, you got to score fifty every game.

537
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: Six foot five with the longest arm span reach in

538
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: last twenty years and twenty years of eady player in

539
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: the draft in the last twenty years, there aren't a

540
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: set of arm that are longer at six foot five

541
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: running Paul Jones, not even twenty years. How long little

542
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: twenty years two talks came out He loaned twenty years ago,

543
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: twenty years Oh my god, runs of four to four,

544
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: baby called the pharmacy. We gotta take a shot. But no,

545
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and and and I heard I heard, I heard Michael

546
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: Lombardi say this about a guy like Kyle Pitts. Kyle

547
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: Pitts make you change what you do on defense if

548
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna go up in line up in twelve personnel right.

549
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: For those that don't know what twelve personnel is one

550
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: tight end, two backs, two receivers. If you're gonna line

551
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: up in twelve personnel, and now the defense has to

552
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: make a decision. Are you gonna put a linebacker on

553
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Pits? Are you gonna put a safety on Kyle Pitts.

554
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm that that that changes whatever you think you want

555
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: to do, because now if you decide that you're gonna

556
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: bring in a smaller player, okay, then we're gonna run

557
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: the ball. We're in twelve personnel. So if you bring in,

558
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: you know, a Nicola Dome corner to guy to to

559
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: guard or defend Kyle Pitts. He's good enough to block

560
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: a defensive back. Maybe he may struggle with a linebacker

561
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: every now and again. But I like my chances in

562
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: that personnel. And then when you want to go, uh,

563
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, eleven personnel and now you got Ceedee Lamb,

564
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, Pitts, and Amari Cooper out there. Whof that

565
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: that's a nightmare to deal with. That's only if Kyl

566
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: Pitts is sitting there. Other than that, and you go

567
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: with you know, you go with j C. Horne, And

568
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: I like jac Horne. I do I like Jon and

569
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: I like Patrick Soutan, And the reason I like pedigree,

570
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: I like guys who have pedigree, And both of those

571
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: guys have pedigree of dads who played in the National

572
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: Football League, and it's in the it's in their blood,

573
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: it's in their DNA. Well, they can go out there

574
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: and just ball out because they've been around their whole life.

575
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying they if for some crazy reason

576
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is still sitting there at ten, I think

577
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: you gotta skip corner and go get Kyle Pitts. What

578
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: day is the draft? The twenty ninth, the tent Thursday.

579
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: Thank for we got how many days now? Twenty? This

580
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: is about when when we started getting off of Okay,

581
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: maybe we got a good enough defense, maybe we got

582
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: enough players. About two weeks from now, Jessic gonna have

583
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: like eight offensive names, Kurt might have like six. Don't

584
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: be sitting there same well you know yeah see see yeah,

585
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: yeah so Nate, Yeah so Nate. But I do agree

586
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: with this here. If if the grade is better on

587
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: that offensive player, we gotta you gotta go get what's there,

588
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: and you gotta pray that your offensive coordinate along with

589
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: your quarterback, said Okay, Now, tempo of game is truly

590
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: what we have to do. And that's the only thing

591
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: that scares me if this offensive coordinator along with the

592
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: head coach, because that's what we'll be here to say, Hey, fellows,

593
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: we need to rest this defense. We need to try

594
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 1: to stretch this out. Because I think our offense has

595
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: the ability to do that. But now does our offensive

596
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: coordinator and head coach want of do that? Because they

597
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: know how to do it, But do they want to

598
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: do that? Say hey, you know we need a five

599
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: or six or ten or twelve late drive. You know,

600
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: we just can't go down here, score quick because they're

601
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: gonna throw our defense back out there that's struck. So

602
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: Nate and drive to what our defense can do. So Nate,

603
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: you just said you ahead. Kurt, Well, I just I

604
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: realized Pets is like a this generational player. But I mean,

605
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: like the old saying goes, there's only so many balls

606
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: to go around. I mean, you're adding to it already.

607
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: Pretty You know, if can't see, you don't have that problem, man,

608
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: Green Bay, don't have that problem. Can't sit, don't have

609
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: to fight, You don't have that problem. Man. When you

610
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: balling and you in your quarterback doing seventy eighty plays

611
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: and he's accurate with the ball. Ain't no problem is

612
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: when you have a bad quarterback, that's when you have problems.

613
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: Ain't enough ball Because when you got a bad quarterback,

614
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: that's when that happened. We better not have a bad quarterback.

615
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: We paid him one hundred and sixty million dollars, so

616
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 1: let that man deal. Let him deal son for sure.

617
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: But would scare me is that you know if we

618
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: didn't take a guy like Pitts at tenth, well, the

619
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: Giants pick at eleventh and the Eagles pick at twelves.

620
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know that Giant and Eagles

621
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: are saying, yeah, yeah, so Nate did right? So do

622
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: I think? Did I hear Nate right? Do you want

623
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: him on your squad? Or do you or do you

624
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: want to face him twice a year? Nate? You want

625
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: Jayleen Smith to chase this dude round? You want Laton

626
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: Viller can't chase it du the round like that? Well,

627
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: but if Jayleen's chasing right, he gonn swipe him up,

628
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 1: swipe up his promotion, swipe run up to him. So Nate,

629
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: and I hear, did I hear you right. You bashed

630
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Jesse for saying he would go with Pitts, and you

631
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: tore him up and then came back around you. If

632
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: the grades good, I see you to say it, I said,

633
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: I would continue to say. It's Mike Ran like, you know,

634
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: act like he's practicing, you know, pronouncing words as he talks,

635
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: you know. But if I said, was simply that if

636
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: the offensive player has the bet of grade, and there's

637
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Speaker 1: a time, but you're looking at him physically, you think

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Speaker 1: it's a time you go to your scout to say

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Speaker 1: who has the better grade and who y'all think fits

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Speaker 1: our team the best. But that but that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But he will not follow that far. I'm sorry, he

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Speaker 1: will not. Sorry Kurt, if he if he's there, Kurt

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Speaker 1: at ten, would you take him or would you trade back?

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Speaker 1: Because you're somebody will trade. Yeah, I would definitely think

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Speaker 1: of off I would consider offers for sure, because but

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Speaker 1: they'd have to be good offers, you know, because again,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to trade back far. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to trade back too much, you know, or not get much.

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Speaker 1: But you'd have to consider trading otherwise. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: you guys said, he's a generational guy. Supposedly you gotta

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Speaker 1: be take him late Jewelry and Blake Jarwin and and

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Speaker 1: and what's the other dons name who? Man, they will

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Speaker 1: be on a they will be on a two pac

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Speaker 1: plane up out of here, just sitting down ten. I

655
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Speaker 1: don't do not sit up there and trade back? Man?

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Speaker 1: Why not? Why are you getting? I will take them?

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Speaker 1: You know I would draft call Pits and trade them too.

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Speaker 1: Jokers man to Somalia, they go, they they'd be going

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Speaker 1: so quick. Man, don't do that. Please show talking about him.

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Speaker 1: Why are you getting trade trade down? Man? Because get

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Speaker 1: the best player at that position? Man, that that that

662
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Speaker 1: trading back? Oh, well he's the same guy. I know

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Speaker 1: he's not the same guy. If here's the same guy

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Speaker 1: here be getting drafted right here at that position, I get. Oh,

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Speaker 1: if there's the same guy, we're good with either one

666
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Speaker 1: of them. And then all of a sudden we look

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Speaker 1: back two years form now like, well, remember they had

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Speaker 1: a chance at the Pitts kid, and they traded back

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Speaker 1: two things out and this is what we got. Kits

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Speaker 1: running around on his third Pro Bowl and we're running

671
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Speaker 1: around trying to say, can we developed this guy? How

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00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: about you jest you get against trading back or would

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Speaker 1: you trade back very bad in the right scenario. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not traded back. I'm not trading back either. Either

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Speaker 1: I'm getting the coining back that I won at ten,

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Speaker 1: or I'm taking Cole pitts that those are my only

677
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Speaker 1: two options. What I'm telling you, man, it ain't failed

678
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Speaker 1: us hit. Let's trade down two or three guys and

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Speaker 1: get this guy right here. I think the only guy

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Speaker 1: we traded back up to get with one of offensive

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Speaker 1: linement and turned out great. But normally we traded back

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Speaker 1: and get on traded. We traded up to get get

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Speaker 1: your boy out of lsu lot Claybown. That didn't work

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Speaker 1: out too well for us. What Chris just had a

685
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Speaker 1: great question. What if someone offered you there one for

686
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Speaker 1: next year? So who for the tenth Pierre dropping? What

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Speaker 1: if you're dropping back to just like thirteen or fourteen,

688
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: say Patriots of fifteen, or you won't see him much.

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Speaker 1: You can get another first round pick, or you can

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Speaker 1: get a blow to pit, you know, a second round

691
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Speaker 1: or whatever this year. Next year you can still get

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Speaker 1: your still get your your cornerback you need plus some

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Speaker 1: that's not worth So now We're going nine to seven,

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Speaker 1: waiting on next year again. Can't go ninety seven two,

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Speaker 1: can't go ninety seven? No more, baby, Hey, no more,

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Speaker 1: no more nine seven. We don't turn out to be

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Speaker 1: the greatest. Well we're the greatest that day, oh but

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Speaker 1: better next year we'll go nine and eight with Pitts

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Speaker 1: in a high powered offense and lose fifty to forty five.

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Speaker 1: Every dame, you know what, Kurt used to know. We're

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Speaker 1: going to break pressed, Kurt, Kurt, but I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: our office according anything gonna let that happen again. This year.

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Speaker 1: He gonna control temple. Yes he is night. You know what, Kurt.

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Speaker 1: Since you just stop the showdown, you take it over

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Speaker 1: where we turn it over Chart good buddy Kurt, and

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Speaker 1: he becomes the host for the last fourteen minutes of

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Speaker 1: the show. We ring thirteen minutes of the show. Curtain's

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Speaker 1: corner on Amen Corner. Kurt, Welcome to the show, Kurt Daniels. Well, first,

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Speaker 1: first of all, let me let me throw out shameless

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Speaker 1: it out. A lot of work goes in. They always

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Speaker 1: want to do stuff old school. No, nobody goes into

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Speaker 1: the store to buy magazines anymore. You word on one

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Speaker 1: line and Amazis ships some right to the house in

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Speaker 1: forty eight hours late. We gotta we gotta get you

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Speaker 1: out of this old school mindset. Brother, we gotta get

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Speaker 1: you first century do nations. Man. That's all I ask.

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Speaker 1: Did you get to Joe? Yes? Thank you? Okay, idea

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Speaker 1: that in a Martin way? Okay, what it's kind to

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Speaker 1: be Martin. I can be Martin, but if I can

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Speaker 1: bring it to you physically, I prefer to that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And where's my truck driving job? Anyway? You promised me

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Speaker 1: that last week. Where's let's listen, let's talk. Let's talk, baby.

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Speaker 1: I'm invest, I want to invest. I can make more

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Speaker 1: than ten dollars a show. I got. I got fifty

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Speaker 1: bucks to invest. Let me know where to how to

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Speaker 1: do it? All right, so I won't even get a

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Speaker 1: tank of gas. That won't even gonna take that'll that'll

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Speaker 1: be that'll be the snack budget. Yeah, all right, I

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Speaker 1: got a couple of questions here for you. The first

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Speaker 1: one we were talking about the safeties earlier and dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn bringing in his own guys, and um, we all

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Speaker 1: feel pretty good about Can O'Neill and even though he

775
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Speaker 1: maybe playing book some linebacker. Wh how do you feel

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Speaker 1: about the other guy that brought it is? Is it

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Speaker 1: the Kazee, the free safety Kaze? Yeah? He was at

778
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Speaker 1: last year with the achilles injury um, which as a

779
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Speaker 1: free safety, a guy who's got to cover that seems

780
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Speaker 1: like a kind of a scary, scary thing to come

781
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Speaker 1: back from. You are you feeling good about this guy

782
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Speaker 1: or is this a position in the free safety? We

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Speaker 1: still need to to do some hunting, need to find somebody,

784
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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaking. Out of those two, he was

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Speaker 1: injured the earliest. Correct, he was injured like October early

786
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Speaker 1: November in the season last year. I think it's supposed

787
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Speaker 1: to be back in time. But it's just a matter

788
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Speaker 1: of you know, is he gonna lose a step that

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Speaker 1: comes again? Um, I think for the way that they

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Speaker 1: want to play it and how he plays that single

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Speaker 1: high safety they play so far back, it's not like

792
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Speaker 1: he's going to be, you know, up at the line

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Speaker 1: having to cover a lot um again and in that

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Speaker 1: in that cover three zone scheme. They're passing it off

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Speaker 1: through that zone, and so you'll have you have guys

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Speaker 1: have to get through linebackers. So I think getting him

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to get some preseason reps in getting some

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Speaker 1: off season in and really seeing how he progresses um

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Speaker 1: with whenever they bring in as far as rookies, I

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Speaker 1: think he'll be fine. Again. I'm not looking for Earl

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Speaker 1: Thomas that type of performance. I'm just looking for something

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Speaker 1: better than what we had the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I agree, until because we got to get

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Speaker 1: him in here without training staff, which he is probably

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Speaker 1: already here, and get him working and see how I

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Speaker 1: trained staff view him, and get him getting and helping

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Speaker 1: him get ramped up to that game type feed because

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Speaker 1: you know you wanted to play a little bit because

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Speaker 1: you don't want all of a sudden here to day

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Speaker 1: of the first game, and he got to fly to

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Speaker 1: one hundred house of an hour, right right, all right?

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Speaker 1: This is kind of tangent gears a little bit. We

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Speaker 1: talked earlier about Xavier Woods being gone, them gone, A

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Speaker 1: Woozier's gone. The only guys you got left now from

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Speaker 1: that two seventeen draft is Jordan Lewis, who was a

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Speaker 1: third round pick, kind of a you know, slot corner,

817
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Speaker 1: kind of depth guy. You don't expect him to start

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Speaker 1: on the ends on the outside. And then you've got

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Speaker 1: Noah Brown, a seventh rounder who's your fifth, sixth wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He's not even probably guaranteed to make the team. So

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Speaker 1: you kind of have to say that class of twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen twenty seventeen was kind of a failed draft in

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Speaker 1: some ways. One do you think it was? And two

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Speaker 1: how does that hurt a team when you just have

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Speaker 1: a bad down year like that of a draft? How

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Speaker 1: does this affect him for years to come? You just

827
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Speaker 1: have to bite the bullet here and and draft better.

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Speaker 1: I mean that it's not exact science on draft and

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Speaker 1: so you took the opportunity to hear, but okay, these

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Speaker 1: guys are not up to par what you need. But

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Speaker 1: you just have to bite that bullet and continue to

832
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Speaker 1: move on and go out and draft better guys. If

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Speaker 1: those guys in a position to be drafted at the

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Speaker 1: time that you draft. It's hard to say who work

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Speaker 1: and who don't work. We just always look at the

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Speaker 1: winning teams and seem like they always hit real well,

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Speaker 1: but we filed out New England. Patriots ain't the great

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Speaker 1: drafts we thought they were either when Tom Brady left.

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Speaker 1: So you just think who's running this ship? Man? Man?

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Speaker 1: It hurts your team because you keep having to restart,

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Speaker 1: keep having to you know, rebuild, and you keep having

842
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Speaker 1: to reteach and you keep having to read everything. And

843
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Speaker 1: the part about drafting it's it's it's like it's like children, right.

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Speaker 1: You bring them in and then you want to raise

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Speaker 1: them up to be a certain thing, and then you

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Speaker 1: want them to go off and do something great. And

847
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: I think about drafting is you want to bring them in,

848
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: you want to develop them, You want to you want

849
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: them to grow in yourself them and then to flourish

850
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: and to be something great. Now, everyone's not going to

851
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowler, a Hall of Fame or a

852
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor player. But if I can get the

853
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: guy that I drafted in the third round and he's

854
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: still around for a second contract, that's a good that's

855
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: a good prospect that grew into what we wanted him

856
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: to grow into. If I can get my first round

857
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,439
Speaker 1: or to be a Pro Bowl player for years to come,

858
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: and now what that does that gives my team the

859
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: ability to have death at certain positions. If, for example,

860
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys are gonna go in and be defensive heavy,

861
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: this drive and it's gonna be corners and linebackers and

862
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: so on and so forth. Right, I need guys like

863
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: Bradley and I who I drafted a year or so

864
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: ago on Tristan Hill. I need those guys to step up.

865
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: I need these defensive guys that we're gonna draft this year.

866
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: In a year or two or three, those guys being

867
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: stepping up because I'm gonna drive some guys behind them.

868
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: And so now when I have this system of players

869
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: that have been here, the culture is set, the knowledge

870
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: is set, and now I can keep building this great

871
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: foundation of players instead of having to go and get

872
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: new guys to start all over again. Those guys didn't

873
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: pan out. That guy didn't pan out, and so that's

874
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of time, energy and effort wasted in guys

875
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: who don't pan out. And that's the nature of the business.

876
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 1: But you want to be able to hit on guys

877
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: more than you miss, and when you get guys like

878
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: in the third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, to be

879
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: a hit and to stick around your program to the

880
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: second contracts to be around four or five to six years.

881
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: That's when you start developing that system where guys are

882
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: playing well, you have a good foundation. Your roster from

883
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: top to bottom. Is it being flipped so much? We

884
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: know that. We know rosters get flipped almost fifty percent

885
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: every single year. If you can lower that, you know

886
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 1: your roster only flip forty percent or thirty five percent.

887
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: That means you have some damn good players on your roster,

888
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: and that gives you the ability to win more football

889
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: games because you keep more of the veteran guys around

890
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: in your football musician. So what if it's now looking

891
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: at the twenty eighteen lass. If you've got guys so

892
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: you've got Layton vander esh who's had injury problems. You've

893
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: got Connor Williams who's been good. He's been solid. You

894
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't say he's a pro bowler by any means or anything,

895
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: but you know he was your second round pick. You

896
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be back. Michael Gallop

897
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: here's a guy you want back, but you probably can't afford.

898
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: You know, I've got Doran's Armstrong, who's a good rotational guy.

899
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: But had to. I mean, if you're grading drafts like that,

900
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: if a guy like a Gallop goes on so you

901
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: get a second contract in another place, does that mean

902
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: it's a bad draft or is it just the way

903
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: you know? I guess we'll know. With Gallup, that just

904
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: was a great pick, and you just seem to be,

905
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 1: like jessef explained, you heavy at that position, with a

906
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of experience peep in this end of money as

907
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: me and spent. Okay, but well you're talking about ode

908
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: linebacker Layton. You don't know. This is a first round peak,

909
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: my friend, and you just don't know. And that's the

910
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: scary thing to have. They offered them miss fifth year

911
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: not yet. May I think the deadlines in the name. Yeah,

912
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: so if you're high on this person, you wouldn't even

913
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: have to wait, if you believe that he was all that,

914
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: you wouldn't even wait. You'd be like, hey, this kid,

915
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: fifth year is already taken up. And that's why that's

916
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: why you have to have your draft picks kind of

917
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: pan out, because it saves you money of having to

918
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: go out and buy and pay for other players elsewhere.

919
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: And if you didn't have to do that, then there

920
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: would be money for a guy like Michael Gallant, But

921
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 1: you said, you know, we can't pay him because we've

922
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,479
Speaker 1: had a roster of guys who are in their fourth, third, fourth,

923
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: fifth year still coming on their rookie deals. So that

924
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: when you know what I'm saying, But when you don't

925
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: have that and you gotta keep bringing more guys in,

926
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: that means you have to keep giving more contracts, especially

927
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: when you're getting in free agents every single year, if

928
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: you're getting them in by the boatloads and you're having

929
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: to always resign mixed player signed these other players. We

930
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: signed the players outside of your organization instead of having

931
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: them pan out on your organization, and then the money

932
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: is being spent on the outside instead of really being

933
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: spent on the inside. And a guy that in Michael Gallup,

934
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: he sometimes put the sugar in the stick because you're saying, yeah,

935
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: I would love to keep him here, but because these

936
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: other things didn't pan out for us, we had to

937
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: go elsewhere and pay money elsewhere for other things. Now

938
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: he's in casualty of that because we don't have the

939
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: funds or be able to master the fund that someone

940
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: else will have to pay him and he'll go somewhere

941
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: else and make the money that he feels like he desires. Right, So,

942
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: I taught Archer at the ESPN had had an interesting

943
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: stat that in the last twenty years, the Cowboys have

944
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: only signed four of their second round picks. The big

945
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: second Countracts was Andre Girard, Sean Lady, DeMarcus Lawrence Jaln Smith.

946
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: Randy Gregor is also a second rounder, but he hasn't

947
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: reached that point yet because of his struggles. But how

948
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: does that hurt the team that they haven't been able

949
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: to land these consistently land these second round picks that

950
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: can contribute to the team long term? And why is that?

951
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: Why are they not? They seem to be routinely missing

952
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: a well one common thread. And maybe I'm wrong, I

953
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: hope I am. You can't keep drafting injury present to

954
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: number ding ding ding ding d D. You don't have

955
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: to say another word. You don't have to say another word.

956
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: You can say that right there, put an exclumation point

957
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: on it, a period whenever you want to put on

958
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: the end of that gorilla blue stop right there. Okay, Well,

959
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: that's a good conversation, easy enough, So is that? But

960
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: you think that's is that a Jerry Jones gambling man

961
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: kind of person, or you know philosophy, or is that

962
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: you know it don't help. It don't help to achieve,

963
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't have your team. Of what jess Is repeatedly

964
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: said right here, it doesn't allow you to build depth

965
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: because the unwritten rule in the NFL is a if

966
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 1: you draft the defensive player in the first three rounds

967
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: and they definitely not in the second year, and they

968
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: definitely ain't giving you eighty five percent snaps, you're in

969
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: a bad way when you got a defensive player that's

970
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: been drafted in the first, second or third round defensively

971
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: and he's not by his second year giving you eighty

972
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: five percent of those snaps have been a hellable rotation

973
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: guy with a super supermotive that's knowing where he's going. Yeah,

974
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: that's a wasted draft man, because that guy don't get

975
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: better at this third year. It starts to decline, and

976
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: now you've got guys going out to dope a Woozier

977
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: and these other guys. Well, last thing I kind of

978
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: got here is is that they announced yesterday the NFL

979
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,720
Speaker 1: said that April nineteenth, from the kind of offseason workouts

980
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: get going. It will be virtual. They'll be doing virtual meetings.

981
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: But as the summer goes along and they expect everybody

982
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: to get back on the field. We know how much

983
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 1: that hurt the Cowboys last year. With a new coaching staff,

984
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: that's gotta be I mean, they gotta be one of

985
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: the biggest benefactors of this, of this kid just getting

986
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: back on the field, the off tablee right. You know,

987
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: they can virtue all they want. I'll be written back

988
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: back yard, hate fathers. We're meeting over here in private.

989
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: We ain't virtually nothing. We're just rolling and out through

990
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: uber or whatever it is. And in the backyard they don't,

991
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: you know the way Coach McCard to say, the dudes were,

992
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: and that's why they're getting rid of a lot of

993
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: these dudes. Not smart enough. Come on, man, not long enough,

994
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: not athletic enough to play more than one position. Come on, Manna,

995
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: I will forget virtual. I want the reality. Come bring

996
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 1: you where I could touch you and see you. Now

997
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: Here is where you need your leaders to step up.

998
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: Dak you need to be on the phone saying ho

999
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: Olne receivers backs my house. Three as a week, We're

1000
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: gonna watch film we're gonna I got the yard in

1001
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: the backyard. We're good, longed up, Keyan O'Neil, Tank Jalen,

1002
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: y'all need to have y'all position groups at a field,

1003
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: at somebody's house, at someone's field, some private facilities. You

1004
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: know you can you can call all around. You can

1005
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: call Exisos, you can call Michael Johnson, you can call

1006
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: d one, you can call all these places and say, listen,

1007
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: we want to use the indoor. You know, we want

1008
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: to shut it down at this time, maybe eight o'clock

1009
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: in the morning, at ten o'clock in the morning. Nobody's

1010
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: in there, no cameras, no nothing. We just want to

1011
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: go ahead and get working. Like this is the time

1012
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: when you want your leaders. This is when your time

1013
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: to be leaders. Tank, Keyano, Jalen, Layton, Sean Leef, he's

1014
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: still around, dak Zee, all those guys. This is the

1015
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: moment in time where you have to grab your group

1016
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: and say now that we have a chance. Even though

1017
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna start virtually we can. There's no restriction on

1018
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: us getting together like there was a year ago. Now

1019
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: your leadership had to step up and really put forth

1020
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: the effort to get these guys in here to learn it.

1021
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: Because a guy like Keyan O'Neil and a guy like

1022
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: Kenzie who understands Dan's Quinn system, you should be having

1023
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: those guys like, yo, let me tell you what's gonna

1024
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: look like. Let me share what it's gonna look like.

1025
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: Here's what I know coach is going to want. This

1026
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 1: is what a wizard coach means when he says this.

1027
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: Here are some of the checks. Let's go through some

1028
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: of these things. And now you know, Keisi and Keano Neil,

1029
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: you guys kind of take the take the lead on

1030
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: really helping them understand. Because Keyano is gonna play linebacker,

1031
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: so he does the linebacker for this. He's also played safety,

1032
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: so here he can help back there. KESI can help

1033
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: back there. So these guys have to take a really

1034
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: really really really really big part in this off season

1035
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: of getting things organized and getting that working. All right, kurtin,

1036
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: thank you. Ain't tomorrow fellas, Yeah, there is, because Easter's

1037
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's good Friday. There is no Ain't it ain't on

1038
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow for the Cowboys. Okay, all right, ain't on tomorrow

1039
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. It's planning for it's planning for you.

1040
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Ohanna go You didn't answer any of my questions. You

1041
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: got any fingers about that? Yeah, I'm ready to go, man,

1042
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: because I'm ready to get this three day weekend started.

1043
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: Here is the draft, man, because you make sure you

1044
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: go get it. Kurt, thanks for letting me take the

1045
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: last segment. All seven eleven, Kurt, I'm yeah, I think

1046
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 1: so okay. Look at that guy right there, Dy right there.

1047
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: If the number ten, we're gonna have a hell of

1048
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: a show after the draft. So fellas, thank you, Nate

1049
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: looking good. Who is that man, Kyle Pitts right there

1050
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: in the middle, Right there in the middle, Man, it

1051
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: is Jesse Kurt. And I tell you, Kurt, by the

1052
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: mud out, we're gonna side slipping offensive players in there. Hey,

1053
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: you know what, let's talk about the draft. We had

1054
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: really talked about the draft much. Just get in a

1055
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Speaker 1: little draft talk next week, fellas. Enjoy, good Friday, Enjoy.

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Speaker 1: We will be back next Thursday, same time, same place.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, see you later. Hang it with

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Speaker 1: the boys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.