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Speaker 1: From the Rams Studio, connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. This is the official podcast of

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Speaker 1: the Rams dot Com. I am Miles Simmons. I am

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Speaker 1: joined by DeMarco far de far How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Ram it? Yes? You can ram it all that. No, Well,

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Speaker 1: this is our new theme music. If you didn't get

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Speaker 1: it to hear it last week, now you hear it now.

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Speaker 1: So we are here after the Rams have fallen out

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Speaker 1: of three and two on the season at thirty to

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Speaker 1: nineteen loss to the Buffalo Bills. What went wrong? Well,

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Speaker 1: how much time do you have? You can start by

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Speaker 1: who wasn't in uniform? Michael Brockers, William Hayes. Look, those guys,

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Speaker 1: your front seven, they aren't just the strength of your defense,

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Speaker 1: they're the strength of your team. Yes, and three of

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Speaker 1: your best guys weren't there. So I mean, if you're

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Speaker 1: on the other side off your Rex Ryan, if you're

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Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy and Tyrod Taylor and you don't have a

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Speaker 1: good rushing day when they're best guys are sitting on

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Speaker 1: the bench and street clothes, then something's wrong with you.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's number one. Um number two, you had

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Speaker 1: your chances to win. You had chances to win the

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Speaker 1: game or at least stay in control, and uh, you

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Speaker 1: let Buffalo get back in it, stay in it, and

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Speaker 1: then ultimately win it. So um entirely winnable game. You

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Speaker 1: just didn't get it done at home. And now you're

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Speaker 1: three and two. Yeah, and you know what, I think

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Speaker 1: what you said is just absolutely right. It wasn't entirely

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Speaker 1: winnable game, and mostly it was because Rams turn the

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Speaker 1: ball over in critical moments where they couldn't. And then

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Speaker 1: Buffalo actually did a really good job of going down

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Speaker 1: the field on one of those turnovers, and then obviously

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Speaker 1: the other is a pick six. Those are two of

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Speaker 1: the most critical plays in the game in my opinion.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen points off turnovers, I mean it's at that's right.

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Speaker 1: I love block Cam Thomas. Wow. I mean, look, they

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Speaker 1: say a broken clock is right twice a day. A

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Speaker 1: broken clock is right twice a day. That happen to Look,

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Speaker 1: it was great he blocked it. I mean it was ok.

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Speaker 1: He got his hand up and it just the ball

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Speaker 1: hit his hand. You know it was awesome. Um No,

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Speaker 1: but look, fourteen points or thirteen points off turnovers, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to overcome in the National Football Um Pick

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Speaker 1: sixes are just killers. They're absolute killers. So a lot

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Speaker 1: to work on for this football team from that game

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Speaker 1: going into Detroit. But there's a lot of positives too

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Speaker 1: that you took a pretty good Baltimore team to the

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Speaker 1: wire and you weren't at full strength, So there are

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Speaker 1: some positives to take take away from that. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to take a shot at you right now. Why because

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Speaker 1: you just called him a Baltimore team. Did I say Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: You said Baltimore, Baltimore Ravens, I'd just say Ravens of

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Speaker 1: the Bills. You said, you said, you can said he

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Speaker 1: took pretty good to the Buffalo team to the wire

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Speaker 1: and you were shorthanded. So let's see what happens when

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Speaker 1: you get older. Is that a CTE joke? Stop it,

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Speaker 1: Befo Baltimore. I think you're making jokes about me, Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and Rex Ryan and Lashawn McCoy. Yeah, tough day, man.

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Speaker 1: Look eighteen carries one fifty yeah, an eight yard average.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if that had happened, if those numbers had happened,

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Speaker 1: if he had that sort of day when Brockers and

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Speaker 1: Quinn and Hayes are in the game, this show is different. Okay, yeah, absolutely, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: those numbers are entirely understandable when you consider what was

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Speaker 1: in front of him. They're understandable to a point, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you still got to play better run defense

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Speaker 1: than that. You can't let And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: say that this is all because they didn't have those

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Speaker 1: I mean miss tackles. We talked about it. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: Shandy McCoy is tougher than people give him credit for. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: They think he's a speedback. He's elusive, he's very elusive,

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Speaker 1: but he can also break tackles, especially on an angle.

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Speaker 1: the players said that again, they've they've got to shore

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Speaker 1: the first drive. I think the first drive kind of

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Speaker 1: What are you? Oh my god? Is that a fine? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Definitely a f I'll pay you. I'm so sorry. Goodness.

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Speaker 1: See guys listening to the podcast right now. See this

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Speaker 1: is the funny thing about podcasts, Like if this were

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Speaker 1: stop everybody would be really embarrassed. You probably start again.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know, but that is definitely that

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Speaker 1: is a product of concussions there, because if I don't

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Speaker 1: something I just don't worry about. But I mean Tyrod

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Speaker 1: Tayler that first drive, especially the touchdown pass where he

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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen when you when you were at full strength.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. You're right, because you have Robert Quinn and

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Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is there. You don't get You barely get

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Speaker 1: right now? Oh my god, I can't talk foot plumps anyway,

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, pump fake. Forget the Rammitt thing anyway. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I just totally derailed the podcast. Well, you're talking about

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Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, and to me, it was the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: with Tyrod Taylor was ye have third and nineteen, right,

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Speaker 1: it's the first drive. You already given up a fifteen

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Speaker 1: because Tyrod Taylor decided to line up behind the guard

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Speaker 1: actually it happens, right, So that's there, all right? Fine?

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Speaker 1: But and you know what's really funny. So like I, I,

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Speaker 1: I drive a GTI. I love my car. It's a

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Speaker 1: I was, I literally I was walking right. I know,

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Speaker 1: I don't it mustn't make me close, I know. And

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Speaker 1: I don't really understand why I did give jokes. I didn't. Okay, look,

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Speaker 1: first of all, let's backup. I know I don't know

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Speaker 1: want to make it very clear I'm not making jokes. Concussions.

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Speaker 1: I was making an age joke. Oh oh well, you

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Speaker 1: because you're old things that I can't remember stuff. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: CTE old man joke. That's okay, all right. I didn't

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Speaker 1: so we're talking about Tyrod Taylor, Yes, and the simple

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Speaker 1: fact of when you have a third and nineteen, right,

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Speaker 1: you've got to be able to stop that. Well, okay,

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Speaker 1: As an offense, I bet that's got to be embarrassing

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Speaker 1: when you drive the length and you can't get the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: But as a defense when you need it when you're

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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, it can make you get down on yourself.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that happened at all, but it does

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Speaker 1: get frustrating when when you can't get touchdowns, when you

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Speaker 1: come away with three instead of seven. Well, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's especially frustrating because if you look at these numbers,

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Speaker 1: it looks like the Rams really had good control of

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Speaker 1: those are the kinds of numbers, twenty numbers. They are

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Speaker 1: when numbers. But just said that, and so you expect

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Speaker 1: to win if you have those. But then turnovers are

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Speaker 1: are right now, more evidence that turnovers are the fastest

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Speaker 1: I mean, but we're asking elite guys. Um Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: corner of the field, that side of the field, when

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Speaker 1: you're throwing a football that far, once he gets it,

425
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Speaker 1: if he gets his hands on it, it's going back exactly.

426
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you're that's what you're doing with

427
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Speaker 1: opposite hash to opposite sideline, and he's running an out

428
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 1: route and that ball is that it's it's hard to

429
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Speaker 1: complete that throw generally, But when and I think that

430
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 1: the Rams had done a few out routes so in

431
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Speaker 1: that over the course of the game, right Yeah, And

432
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 1: so when you sort of have that in your mind

433
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Speaker 1: as a receiver excuse me, as a cornerback, it's maybe

434
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: a little bit easier to read what the receiver is

435
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Speaker 1: going to do because of course they had one guy

436
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Speaker 1: and I can't remember if it was Kenny Britt, Brian

437
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 1: Quick or whoever it was, but one guy's running up

438
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Speaker 1: the field basically nine round right, and then you're clearing

439
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Speaker 1: out some space. Maybe you get a little bit of

440
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,200
Speaker 1: a rub Oncero. Cooper is trying to go onto that pile,

441
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: and that's how you try to get that separation and

442
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: then deliver the ball. It just didn't work out that

443
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 1: way because the cornerback makes a really good play, great

444
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Speaker 1: place a defensive player, yea, yeah, yeah, I mean he

445
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: had a hell of a game. Two picks. Yeah, I

446
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 1: thought Lorenzo Alexander would have been my player of the week. Yeah, yeah,

447
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: he was all over the play he was, but I mean,

448
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 1: great play. You know. It was like, as a pro

449
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 1: you almost feel sorry for rookies when you're playing against

450
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: them because they don't know what they don't know. They're

451
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: telling you everything, They're giving away the entire game play

452
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Speaker 1: just by their body language out they set YadA, YadA, YadA,

453
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 1: and you're just picking these guys apart. That's all experience.

454
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Speaker 1: It may not be you're better than him, he just

455
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything yet. The next time you see him

456
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 1: to three years down the road, he's going to be better.

457
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: Farrell Cooper is going to be better, right, He's gonna

458
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Speaker 1: be better as next time out, No doubt. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any doubt about Farrel Cooper. That's interesting

460
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Speaker 1: what you say about rookies giving things away. So when

461
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 1: you were give everything away like what like as a lineman,

462
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 1: what would you rookies give away as a d tackle? Yeah,

463
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: they give away runner pass like that, just by how

464
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: they break the huddle, their stance, what they're looking at,

465
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: if they're talking to the guy next to him or not,

466
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Speaker 1: a lot of things that veterans don't do, or veterans

467
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Speaker 1: try to hide to trick you. They're not doing because

468
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: they don't know yet. Yeah, you know, so it's easier

469
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: to play against a rookie like that, same thing with

470
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Speaker 1: a I bet a experienced corner versus a rookie receiver. Oh,

471
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Speaker 1: this is an out, this is a deep row. I

472
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: know where you're gonna be. I know where you're going.

473
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Speaker 1: Before you get there, they're gonna beat you to the spot.

474
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you that I know where you're

475
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Speaker 1: going damn sure, not going to tell the guy throw

476
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Speaker 1: a football until he releases it in boyah. Yeah, well

477
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: and then that's what happens. You know, Cockerly fumbled twice.

478
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:07,719
Speaker 1: That seems and rare unacceptable. Yeah, yeah, unacceptable. He knows it. Um.

479
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: You know, there was a nice little mini debate going on.

480
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Speaker 1: And because when Tavon Austin takes true rush attempts from

481
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Speaker 1: the running back spot, some of those players look good. Yes, yeah,

482
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean they gashed them a little bit. Yeah, they

483
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: look different than you know what I especially liked. I

484
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: liked when they had everybody split out wide and then

485
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: they brought they changed the formation and kind of like

486
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Speaker 1: a Hugh Jackson type deal, you know, where they'll bring

487
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Speaker 1: the guy into the backfield. They brought Tavon Austin into

488
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Speaker 1: the backfield. I can't remember who was single back or

489
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Speaker 1: eye formation with Cory Harkey in front of him. And

490
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Speaker 1: then that's when you run the Tavon Austin out of

491
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Speaker 1: the backfield because you're not necessarily expecting that when the

492
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: personnel comes out of the huddle and then they go

493
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Speaker 1: out out wide, it's just to bring him back into

494
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Speaker 1: the backfield like that. I thought that was a nice chance.

495
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 1: It's a good wrinkle. It definitely keeps a defense off balance.

496
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: But the run game looked a little bit different. So, um,

497
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Speaker 1: it's not just the old line, I don't. I know

498
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 1: people like to blame the old line for Todd Gurley

499
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: not exactly getting off shot, putting the ball in the ground. Um,

500
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: maybe some things that they all could work on to

501
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: get the run game going right. Yeah. I think it's

502
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: a combination of a lot of things, you know, and

503
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 1: it's and players sometimes save this that whenever you have

504
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: these kinds of negative plays, a lot of what happens

505
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: is there there could be four guys along the line

506
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Speaker 1: doing something right, or five guys if you count the

507
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Speaker 1: tight ends, and then there's the one guy that gets

508
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Speaker 1: beat and then that's what blows it up right. And

509
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,880
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then you just got to get

510
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Speaker 1: everybody going at the same rate at the same time,

511
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Speaker 1: and that's what will eventually lead to things being successful.

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Speaker 1: I think there was a play where it looked like

513
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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley was trying to go outside for a stretch,

514
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Speaker 1: and I wish I could remember exactly what this play was.

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Speaker 1: But the blocking to me, when you when the snap

516
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Speaker 1: got off, you could see on the all twenty two

517
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Speaker 1: is behind them everybody stepping in, so it looks like

518
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: they're stepping to block inside run or inside zones there.

519
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what the mistakes the five yard loss.

520
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: It was either either like going left, yeah I think yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it was a five yard loss. Plus they

522
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Speaker 1: had a hole. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, And that's that's

523
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's it seems like one guy may

524
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Speaker 1: not be doing the right thing and everybody else might be.

525
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Speaker 1: Because if you look at that, that play looked like

526
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Speaker 1: to me, there goes a hole developing in the a gap, right,

527
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Speaker 1: So if you're going to the two hole or a

528
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: three hole, yeah, you gotta get there and not just

529
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: try to stretch this thing outside. And again I don't

530
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: know exactly that that's what was supposed to happen, but

531
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Speaker 1: at least to me when I watch it on film,

532
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: it looks like guys are stepping inside as opposed to

533
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: stepping to reach block. Yeah there. I mean, there's obviously

534
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: a disconnect there because the running game hasn't really exploded

535
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: like we thought it would. But I mean, the one

536
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: thing you can say that's a positive is the twenty

537
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Speaker 1: three carries. Yeah, I mean you are controlling the clock

538
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,959
Speaker 1: and that bears out in time of possession UM seventy

539
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: two yards and a touchdown. That's not bad. You'd like more, right, Yeah,

540
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: definitely when the other guy on the other side is

541
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: putting up a buck fifty on your guys, so you'd

542
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Speaker 1: like more. I still think it's going to come. I

543
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: still think it's going to evolve over time, and then

544
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: you'll start to see a more explosive run game at

545
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: some point. With Todd Gurley, it's just it's not there yet, yeah, exactly.

546
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Speaker 1: And so you know, as we sort of start turning

547
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Speaker 1: it to this week, we may see some of these

548
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Speaker 1: guys back on the defensive line. That's good. Fisher said

549
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: on Tuesday after practice that it got some guys back

550
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: in the walkthrough. They will see how things go. But

551
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: one guy we are probably not going to see is

552
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: true Main Johnson, and that is going to be a

553
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: pretty significant loss at least what he's Fisher said, he's

554
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: week to week. You know, the reports are out there

555
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 1: that it may be a couple weeks and so we

556
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Speaker 1: might not see true Johnson back until after the bye Wow.

557
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, one of your better defenders, one of your

558
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: better players. Absolutely having a fantastic season. Yea, even the

559
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: season before was great. Deserves all the money they're paying him,

560
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: definitely and probably more. He's going to earn a big

561
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: deal after this year if he comes back and plays

562
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: as well. Um now, there's not a big receiver in

563
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Detroit for him to match up with, right Golden Tate

564
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: is always a problem. He is a problem. He would

565
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: be a problem for Tremaine too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

566
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: he's a small, quick, compact type guy. Um so whoever's

567
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: over top of him is going to have a long

568
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: day right right now. You know, Fisher said that he

569
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: can he can sleep well at night knowing that Eja

570
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: Gaines is back and playing well. So that's one Troy

571
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: Hill looks like right now he's going to be the

572
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: corner that would line up opposite EJ. Gaines. You know,

573
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: game starts tomorrow and game is on Sunday, so it's

574
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Speaker 1: I think we can project that out and I think

575
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: that will be the case. But they also picked up

576
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Speaker 1: Dwayne gratz Off Waivers out of Jacksonville, who's a twenty

577
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Speaker 1: thirteen third round pick out of the University of Connecticut.

578
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: Fisher seems really excited about him. And you know, anytime

579
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: you pick up a guy off Waivers, it's going to

580
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: take him a little bit of time to get integrated

581
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: into the system. But yeah, at least you've got an

582
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: another body there, true big, yes, y, yes, Yeah, that's

583
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: a big corner. Um. I like big corners, especially the

584
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: way the Rams use their corners here. Um, you have

585
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: to be able to play the run. Um. I'm assuming

586
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: a guy that big, that's a third rounder, right, yeah,

587
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: I hope so, yeah, another body's gonna help. Um. But

588
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: you know, Matt Stafford and Detroit is going to test you. Yes,

589
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: they're going to test that other corner. They're gonna test ej. Yeah.

590
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: After last Sunday, they're gonna come after him too. So um,

591
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: like we said, the best way to stop a passing

592
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: game is pressure. Yeah, so you hope you have your

593
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: best pass rushers on the field to get after Stafford.

594
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: If not, like you said, it could be a long day.

595
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: This guy can make every throw, every throw on the

596
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 1: shore can yeah, and he can get it there in

597
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: a blink. Yeah. All right, So before we really turn

598
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: it to the Detroit Lions, let's sort of reset. Here

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Speaker 1: you're listening to the Between the Horns podcast, official podcast

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna pray in your phone. I've got the

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Speaker 1: little moon things. Something happens, No, the little somebody walks

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Speaker 1: in and just ruins us because I can't be the

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Speaker 1: only guy with the phone. First of all, you're assuming

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Speaker 1: that somebody likes me enough to text me. And in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the wait, we talk all the time.

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Speaker 1: I text you, Yeah you do, and you're right here.

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Speaker 1: That's true, right right now? Yeah, okay, that'll be really good.

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's talk about the Lions. They're

614
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: right now, they're two and three. I think they're still

615
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: a very dangerous team, particularly because of what you were

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00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: sort of just talking about right there. They've got an

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00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: explosive offense. What else scares you about Detroit? Well, they

618
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: can run the ball man um. Look, Matt Stafford gets

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00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: all the ink Um. You usually talk about him first,

620
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: but Detroit can run the ball and they're gonna try. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's number one. They can get after the pass or

622
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: two pretty good. They can crush up there. Um the

623
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: greatest defense when you look at just stats, but situational football.

624
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Like you said, they're pretty good at getting after quarterbacks.

625
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Things that hurt the Rams, they're pretty good at. So

626
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of evens out once you get

627
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: up there. So yeah, I feel the same way I

628
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: felt about Buffalo. It's it's winnable for the Rams, but

629
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: you have to play great football on both sides, and

630
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: you have to play mistake free football to give yourself

631
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: a chance to win, all right, And I think that's

632
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: where the Rams are right now. In general. You've got

633
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: to play clean. You cannot turn the ball over. You

634
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: can't go up there and and mess around and throw

635
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: pick sixes and do things like that and have fumbles

636
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: with your best offensive player Like that's just that. That's

637
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: not a winning formula no matter how well you run

638
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: the ball. And again we just saw that. But I

639
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: think one of the things that we're definitely going to

640
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: see out of these guys is them trying to get

641
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: the ball to Marvin Jones. Yeah, because you know, he's

642
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: the number one wide receiver right now in terms of

643
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: your artists. I had no idea. Yeah, five hundred nineteen yards.

644
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: He's edging out the former teammate AJ Green. He's their

645
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: number one receiver, number one in the league. He's number

646
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: one in the league, sir, even over Julio Jones. Over

647
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Julio just had a three hundred yard day. He's got

648
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: two more than two more yards than Juliars. Come on,

649
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: two more yards, two more yards. The numbers say he's

650
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: number one by two yards. Yeah, by one yard over

651
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: the best receiver in the National Football League right now. Yes,

652
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Okay, thank you, Okay, just three hundred yard

653
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: saying or not? You just said, yeah, well, but I

654
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: mean the numbers are the numbers. I did not know

655
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: that though. You're right. Yeah, true, that's pretty good business.

656
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: That is really good all right. But he also had

657
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: a he had a two hundred yard game a couple

658
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago against the Green Bay Packers. And the Green

659
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: Bay Packers are playing really good defense. Yeah, so Shields

660
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: out still their corner, best corner. I think he might

661
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: be out still. Green Bay okay, Well that makes sense.

662
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: Well then that's yeah, but that's okay. But I'm just saying,

663
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, give the man his I do. I gave

664
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 1: him as props I did. I did not know he

665
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: was leading the league in receiving yards. I was surprised

666
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be Julio Jones after a twelve catch, three

667
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: hundred yard day. He's also all's I mean with Marvin Jones.

668
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: He's also getting chunk yardage? You know, yes, you know what?

669
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: Guess what he is? Yard should just tell me instead

670
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: of me guessing. You got fun getting chunk yardage too.

671
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: As I read directly from my notes, he's number five

672
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: at nineteen point two yards per reception, nineteen almost twenty yards.

673
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Do you know? Do you know who's number six? And

674
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: yards per catch? Yeah? Tavon no britt no quick yes,

675
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: boom yes, yeah on how many catches? I'm not sure

676
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: that's what I should have known. I should have written

677
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: that down. But he's at eighteen and a half yards

678
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: per reception, so you can most lead the league. You

679
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: didn't rust me about him today you could almost leave

680
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: the league in yards per catch and drops. That's amazing.

681
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: Oh man, who it's amazing. It's true. Guess it averages

682
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: out to a sea eventually once you start to sew

683
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: up those drops. Yeah, and then add that, yes, you

684
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: got a superstar, really really good and you know, let's

685
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: shout out to Kenny Britt again, who is on still

686
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: on pace for one thousand yards season after catching five

687
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: receptions for seven five yards. Yeah, he may not be

688
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: everyone's idea of a number one receiver, but he could

689
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: be perfect for what they need. Well that's what that's

690
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: why I said earlier. You ask me who the number

691
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: one receiver is that guy he's twentieth in the league

692
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: right now in yards receiving. Yeah, big physical guy and

693
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: not afraid to block right exactly. So anyway, but getting

694
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: getting back to the Lions, Um, they've had a lot

695
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: of injury problems so far this year. The Hellodi Nada

696
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: has been out. I'll leave their linebacker. He's been out.

697
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: Ziggs been out yes, yeah, yeah, that's it is and

698
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: still is on. So really because if you remember that

699
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: game yeah last year, yes, he probably he's a huge problem,

700
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: a problem. So yeah, that's you know, a boon, I

701
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: guess you could say for the Rams being with the

702
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: all three of those guys out because those are huge

703
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: defensive contributors. Maybe you'll get lucky like balt Like Baltimore,

704
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: like Buffalo, your best pass rushers aren't. Why do you

705
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: want to do that? I don't know. Why is Baltimore

706
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: on my brain? Right? I don't know. I have no

707
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: idea in crab cakes Flacco? Why's Flacco on my brain?

708
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: Is he elite? Is Joe Flacco elite? I'm not even

709
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: getting into that chicken or the egg? See that's how's

710
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: that chicken or the egg? Because it's is Joe? What

711
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: is your right? What is your definition of elite? Oh? Boy?

712
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: I see my definition of elite is so weird. Do

713
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: you believe in clutch? Yeah? Okay, so do I Some

714
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: people don't. It's you can't ever like argue the other side. Now,

715
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: is Joe Flacco elite? Does he have a ring? Yes?

716
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: That puts him in rarefied company. I would say that's oh.

717
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: I would say, you have your outliers, but only the

718
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: best quarterbacks that play this game actually win super Bowls.

719
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: Trent Dilfer, I said, you have your outliers, Okay, I

720
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: can't think you're just mad because he beats Cleveland. Well,

721
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: non stop. All right, that that's that's one thing. But

722
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: we don't we don't have to get my philosophy on

723
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: the Ravens organization. What is your definition of elite? I

724
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: think you've got to be a top four or five quarterback,

725
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: meaning what passer ready yards, touchdowns, Gosh, it's being able

726
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: to lead your team to success. It's it's being able

727
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: to throw accurately, being able to bring your team back

728
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter if they need it. Yeah. Like

729
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: when when I look at Tom Brady and I remember

730
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: the dinner of the game last year. It was Sunday

731
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: night game and they were facing Denver, I think brock

732
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: Osweiler was his first or second start, whatever, and the

733
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: Broncos either gone down, they kicked a field goal, whatever,

734
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: and they'd just taken the lead or something, and tom

735
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: Brady had like forty five seconds to go down the field,

736
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: get them in position to kick a field goal or

737
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: maybe go win it with a touchdown. And I thought,

738
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: there's no way tom Brady's not going to get these

739
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: guys in first What first mistake is saying that when

740
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's taking the field, Oh, no way he can

741
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: get the ball down the field. Okay, no, I'm saying no. No,

742
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: I said, there's no way he's not. Oh I'm sorry,

743
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: there's no way he's getting it down. Yeah yeah, okay,

744
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,280
Speaker 1: so I was what I'm saying like that, If that's

745
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: the person, that's what I think of as an elite quarterback.

746
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: I'm with you. There's three numbers I look for. It's

747
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: how many attempts, your completion percentage, and touchdowns versus picks. Yeah, um,

748
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: yards vary, Yeah, the yards always very much. Your completion

749
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: percentage high, yeah, yeah, you're Your touchdown interception ratio has

750
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: to be like your touchdowns have to be way up

751
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: here and less than ten picks. Oh yeah, to me,

752
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: that makes you elite and do it for multiple years

753
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: in a row. Yes, yeah, not just the one. Um,

754
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, I'm trying to get paid here, yeah, I

755
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,439
Speaker 1: mean trying to get paid. Yeah, I'm trying to get paid.

756
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to steal basically. Oh, goodness, a lot. He's no.

757
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: He throws picks like I throw picks in just all

758
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: over the place, right, Okay, right, it's not good. I'm

759
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: really not good at Yeah. So there, Ryan Fitzpatrick, not

760
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: elite Flacco is to me? How about that. Why why

761
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: is Flacoli just because he has a ring. You know,

762
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: the guy's got a cannon and high completion percentage. Yeah yeah,

763
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean he can throw, he can he can throw

764
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: the deep ball very well. Yeah, and he can throw

765
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: intermediate too. Yeah. And he's pretty smart under center. He

766
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: can get you in and out of bad place. I

767
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: put him in the elite category. For me. It's more

768
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: it's like Brady Rogers um Roethlisberger. Because Roethlisberger right now,

769
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: I think in Pittsburgh is probably the most explosive offense.

770
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: And when you got you've got Roethlisberger, you've got Um

771
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: living on Bill, and you've got Antonio Brown. That's that

772
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: that's really really good stuff. Yeah. And they do a

773
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: lot of really good things there, they do. That's those

774
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: are the Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Yeah yeah, I mean

775
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: I think like Matt Ryan, I consider him elite. Really Yeah.

776
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: I would, huh if he if he was on the

777
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: open market, you wouldn't want him, of course you would.

778
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: But he's never going to be on the open market.

779
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: It's almost like saying Ryan, like Ryan Tannehill, is he

780
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: going to be on the open market. I do not

781
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: put him as elite. I'm not saying he's going to

782
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: be elite. No, I'm not saying he is elite. I'm

783
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: just saying that on the open market. Actually, yeah, after

784
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: the way this year's going, Yeah, he could be. Look

785
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: at Philip Rivers and San Diego team is bad. He's

786
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: not and he's not going anywhere, right, yes, yes, okay, yeah,

787
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: I think that. But it's there's sort of a difference

788
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: between franchise and elite. Like I think I think Stafford

789
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: is the textbook definition of a franchise quarterback because you

790
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: don't want to get rid of him, right, He's good

791
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: enough so that you would never want to get rid

792
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: of him. But can he get you way over the

793
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: hump just by myself? Probably not. No, he's not un

794
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, well yeah, and that's the thing about Andrew

795
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: luck Right now, did you call him elite? No? See,

796
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: I would, he's really he's just he's not. He's not

797
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: surrounded by much. This is semantics, and you're right about that.

798
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: This is semantics. But I would call him an elite talent.

799
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: But I don't know that he's an elite quarterback, right,

800
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: is very that's semantic though, it's it's my Ivy League. Yeah,

801
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: there's your fun. So get back to the lines a

802
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: little bit. I mean you mentioned that they can run

803
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: the football. I think they're ridic is a good option.

804
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: Not just running the football, but when they pass it

805
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: to him, they can They can do that and they

806
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: do it really well. I mean if you're a defensive

807
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: end or an outside backer or safety or anybody that's

808
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: got to worry about him in pass coverage, I mean,

809
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: this is not an easy day for you. No, yeah,

810
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: it's another thing. Um Covering him is one. Getting him

811
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: on the ground after he catches it as another. So

812
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna have problems. Greg Williams can't control that by

813
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: how he calls the game and not leaving anybody exposed,

814
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: but running the football, traditional run plays. Depending on who

815
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: plays with the Rams, it's going to be a problem, yes,

816
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: Because if I'm Detroit, I'm going to follow the same

817
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: blueprint that Buffalo just showed me. And you just should, right,

818
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: and you should. There wasn't anything tricky. They just run

819
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: the ball on they did, and they you know, they

820
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: got their big uglies and they just ran the football right,

821
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: and that's what they do. I mean, that's a retch

822
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: Ryan team. Right, you run the football really well and

823
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: then you play multiple defense and you try to confuse

824
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: the guy that's across from you. And they were able

825
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: to do that, and they were able to do that effectively.

826
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor was a part of the run game, but

827
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: not a huge part. He was just handing off. It's

828
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: traditional and you couldn't stop it, right. I think I

829
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 1: would believe that I could do that to the Rams

830
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: if I'm the Lions. Yeah, so the Rams are gonna

831
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: have to prove that you can't. And you know what,

832
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: It's also interesting about the Lions run game because they've

833
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: been without Amir Abdula. He's been hurt and he's a

834
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: guy that I think it has some really good talent

835
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: for running back. But they've been using Golden Tate in

836
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: the backfield too, Like last week against Philadelphia. Was watching

837
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: that game and they had this pistol look where they

838
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: had the full back in there too. I don't Aluanum,

839
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: but they were kept pitching it to Golden Tate. They

840
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: ran the same play almost two three, maybe even four times,

841
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: and one time they did they sort of ran it

842
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: and it sort of was a fake and then they

843
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: kind of came back around and threw it to Reddick,

844
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: And so they can do a lot of different things

845
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: out of this weird pistol formation and they've got yeah,

846
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: let me say, I say this, Okay, I don't know,

847
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: you're making me nervous Tavon or Golden Tate right now

848
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: since you can move them around and they can basically

849
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: do the same thing. Well, I think Taymon Austin's probably

850
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: a little bit faster. I can tell he's way faster. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

851
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: so route running, Golden Tate might have the edge and

852
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: route running, yeah, I think so. Yeah, but they they're

853
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: pretty much the same type guy. I mean, it's a receiver.

854
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: You can line up in the backfield and he can

855
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: run the foot yeah yeah. You don't lose him at

856
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: all on rundown. So, um, they're both hard to stop, man,

857
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: But in the passing game, this guy is letter perfect

858
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: running routes. Yeah. Yeah, he's a really good receiver too.

859
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: And there was one play that they had. It was

860
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: a third and four. It was got to have and

861
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford like kind of threw it off his back foot,

862
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: but he had really nice touch, floated it to Golden Tate.

863
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Tape makes the catch and they get in position for

864
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal. That's the kind of thing

865
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: I think you're talking about with rut He just he

866
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: knows where to be and he knows how to catch

867
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: the ball and get going on the run and get

868
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: some But when the game's on the line, I'd rather

869
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: punt to Golden State Tate than table. Heck, yeah, to you,

870
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: I think I can get you on the ground. Yeah,

871
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: versus this other guy here. Well, that's why teams don't

872
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 1: punt to tab On. You know what I almost said.

873
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: I almost called them Baltimore Buffalo. It's your fault, thank you. Yeah,

874
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: but you saw Buffalo. They want to Yeah, they didn't

875
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: want to kick to table Unson at all. No. I

876
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: mean they all have strengths and weaknesses, but I mean

877
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: they basically perform the same function on the offense. I

878
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: mean they're very multiple. You have to watch out for

879
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: them at all times. Yeah, exactly. So do you remember

880
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: that Week fourteen matchup that they had last year with

881
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: the Lions when Tremaine knows the knows with Calvin Johnson

882
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: and locked him up. Yes, yeah, yeah, that's one part

883
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: of it. But we're also going to talk about my

884
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: favorite person to talk about who you think is boring

885
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Aaron Donald, Oh my god, Okay, you

886
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: know why because he was the NFC Defensive Player of

887
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: the Week when he had three sacks, also had six

888
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: QB hits in three tackles, and the water's wet and

889
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: it never raised in southern California. What else it feels like? Man?

890
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: That is did you just go Spanish on me? He did?

891
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: That was nice? What else is new? He's a wrecking machine.

892
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: I know he's a reckoning machine. I'm just saying that's

893
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: that was That was really good. He's always good. He's

894
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: always good. That's what I'm saying. But you don't, like

895
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: you don't just get three sacks as a defensive tackle,

896
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: like that's really hard. I just wanted I'm telling me

897
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: it's hard to get three sacks at I know it's

898
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying it because I know you know it's hard.

899
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that we can appreciate this for Okay,

900
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, I'll give you thirty seconds gush over Aaron

901
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: Donald without saying the same thing twice. I already I

902
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: just did. Go ahead, go ahead and gush over for

903
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: thirty seconds and not say the same. All right, this

904
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: is your this is your Aaron Donald thirty seconds gushing

905
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: this week gushing, don't repeat anything this if this in

906
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: this past week, Aaron Donald had a half sack m

907
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: but he also was able to get to the quarterback.

908
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: As I go through these defensive stats really quickly, oh no,

909
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 1: I can't find him. I'm wasting my thirty seconds. Ah.

910
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: He had a half sack, but he also had two

911
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: tackles for loss and a quarterback hit. Okay, so I

912
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: think it just tells you how well Aaron Donald was

913
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: playing on the inside. He was able to do things.

914
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: Even though the Rams did not win that game, he

915
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: really was a factor. Okay, that could be so generic.

916
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: That could be any week. What you're just saying, that

917
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: whole thing could be any week except where they lost, right,

918
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: I know, right, But I just think that, you know,

919
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: he's that good that we need to acknowledge. I'm with you.

920
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's special. Yeah, he's He's the Todd Gurley

921
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: of the Rams defense. Yes, that is. Your first concern

922
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: is how to keep ninety nine out of the backfield

923
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: and off my quarterback? Right, And for the most part,

924
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: unlike Todd Gurley, you can't take him away, right exactly.

925
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: There is no eight man box to take Aaron Donald lay.

926
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: There is not but the Todd Gurley of the Rams offense,

927
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: who was named Todd Gurley. I was able to have

928
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: sixteen carries, one hundred forty yards, two touchdowns. That was

929
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: I believe that's his last one hundred yard game last year. Okay,

930
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: well it's about time for another one. It is. It's

931
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: going to happen at some point. I mean, look all

932
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: these defenses eight men boxes. You have to give them

933
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: a whole lot of credit because they're making plays against him. Right,

934
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: this is the National Football League. Everybody gets banged up

935
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: and beat up, and the season gets long. At some point,

936
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 1: those same carries that here I call him the road

937
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: to nowhere, right three four yards in a cloud of dust.

938
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: At some point those things are going to turn into

939
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: six eight fifteen forty sixty touchdown. And they were starting

940
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: to turn into six to eight to ten. You know,

941
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: in this last game against he's gonna break tackles, they're

942
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: gonna catch a shorthanded defense, they're going to play a

943
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: lot better than we've seen, and he's going to get off.

944
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: It's it's inevitable. The other thing I liked about this

945
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: particular game that they the Rams just head was that

946
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: they were able to utilize him in the passing game,

947
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: and I thought they did a decent job. Yeah. Especially

948
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: it was that first down. Excuse me, it was third

949
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: down and they got a first down. Those third and

950
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: two is I think the first set of downs of

951
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: the entire game, and they went out to him on

952
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: it was like a five to six yard out. He

953
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: makes the catch, he makes a guy miss, Boom, you're

954
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: twenty four yards down the field and you're almost in

955
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: the scoring position. Those are the kinds of things I

956
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: think we're going to see a little bit more from

957
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, especially if they keep loading the boxes they have. Well,

958
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: that's the best way to protect yourself. I mean, look,

959
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: it only helps a running back if you can catch, right,

960
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: because if all you can do is take carries, then

961
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: we can load the box and take you away. Yeah,

962
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: you're seeing it. But if you can help yourself by

963
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: being a receiver out of the backfield, it stretches the

964
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: defense for you. So I think right now, like in

965
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: Detroit and in Buffalo, they're talking about thirty out of

966
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: the backfield. He can catch he's a problem. We're gonna

967
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: have to work on that in practice. So those things

968
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: will start to happen. More passing yards, more receiving yards

969
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: for Todd Gurley. Plus that's going to help him in

970
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: the run game. It's it's it's it's here or there. Yeah,

971
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: in football, it absolutely absolutely all right, So, now is

972
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: your favorite part of the show. What's my favorite part

973
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: of the show when we take Twitter questions? Okay, all right,

974
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: it's it's fine. Why do you why do you not

975
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: like Tither so much? Because when I take questions, I

976
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: like to actually see the person in front of me.

977
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: But that's okay, you'll be the guy. Yeah, so I'll

978
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: just project taking them from me. Okay, And these are

979
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: decent questions, Okay, except for one that I'm gonna kind

980
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: of except for one. I like, these are decent except

981
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: for one. Well, because it's not there was always a

982
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: pass unless they run it. Okay. So first one comes

983
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,919
Speaker 1: from my guy, Skyler Carlin, who has been a he's

984
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: like an OG follower. Okay, he put his name on it,

985
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,959
Speaker 1: yes he did, Yeah, which is good. So he says,

986
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: what was the reasoning behind cutting sense of bas so

987
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: early in the season, Um, you know, I don't know

988
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: where you put sense of baum Corner. I think was

989
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: going to be an adventure for him. Um, when corners

990
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: lose a step, it's very obvious. And I think he

991
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: might be in that situation where he's going to rotate

992
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: to safety. Yeah, that might be a better spot for him.

993
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: But who's which place are you going to take in

994
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: this defense at safety? Right? Yeah? So I don't think

995
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,879
Speaker 1: there's a spot for him right now. So I think

996
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: it was the right move. Yeah, and obviously they had

997
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: to bring up Morgan Fox for that game when you

998
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: don't have anybody on the defensive one when you seen

999
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: three guys, that's a lot of guys that you're missing,

1000
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: and so that I think. But what you just said

1001
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: is kind of part of it. Yeah, you had Troy

1002
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 1: Hill who was performing well. Troy Hill again is in

1003
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: line to start this week without Truemain Johnson with him

1004
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: being sidelined, and so yeah, now you've just got a

1005
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: situation where okay, where does sens about go? Right? And

1006
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I'd love to have that experience

1007
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: on the field, sure, but just not at corner. Yeah,

1008
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: there's no room for him here at that position. Yeah,

1009
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: and so now he's actually just gone to the New

1010
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: York Giants. You'll see him again, Yeah, you will see

1011
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: him again in London. Interesting. Yeah, wowar together wow yea,

1012
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: that is very I know which one I'm throwing at. Well,

1013
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: all right, there's another one from Rams Squatch who Rams

1014
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: Squatch like Sasquatch. I guess okay, all right, well it's

1015
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: Rams and then Quatch. It's pretty pretty creative. It's at

1016
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: first down Rams, Okay, that's your handle, but Rams okay,

1017
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: So it says, do you think our offensive players can

1018
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: produce more playing in a hurry up offense? This is interesting? Uh.

1019
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people think that that if

1020
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: it's not working, or they see the success of a

1021
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: two minute offense and think everyone should do it. Yes,

1022
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: there's a reason why two minute offenses work, and you

1023
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: can move the football. It's one you're down, they're up. Yeah,

1024
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: and it covers their playing is giving up everything in front. Yes,

1025
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: so it looks like it's it's functional. But Chip Kelly's

1026
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: offense in San Francisco, it used to be. It's very simplistic.

1027
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: It's not that hard, right. The tempo is what got

1028
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: you exactly, So I could see the offense or any

1029
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: offense that's kind of struggling, speeding up the tempo to help, yeah,

1030
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: make fatigue a factors. So I could see that happening. Well, See,

1031
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: I think it's good to have it as a change up.

1032
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily your fastball, right, you know,

1033
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: you don't want to necessarily just go out there and

1034
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: always be fast, fast, fast, because I kind of put

1035
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: some strain on your defense and look at Yeah, if

1036
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: you look at what Philadelphia has been able to do

1037
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: this year with Doug Peterson now as opposed to Chip Kelly,

1038
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: they're not point there. I think I saw a stat

1039
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: that said, like Fletcher Cox has basically played one the

1040
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: equivalent of one less game of snaps through the first

1041
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,959
Speaker 1: quarter of the season because they are playing so offensively. Yeah,

1042
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: that makes sense because you're not going as fast. So again,

1043
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: I think it's a good change up sometimes, but I

1044
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: don't know if you really want to base your offense

1045
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: around that, especially because this is still a pretty young group. Yeah,

1046
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: the rams offensively, so the more the more you're trying

1047
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: to speed things up, sometimes I think that might take

1048
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: away from what you're really trying to get. Your bread

1049
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: and butter and you're putting more more on your quarterback

1050
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: to do that, right, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, that's that's what

1051
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't want at this point. Yeah, exactly. All right,

1052
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: So this is the one that I sort of want

1053
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: to go off on a little bit and it and

1054
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: we're not going to answer this because this is not

1055
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: this is the not smart question. Yeah, yeah, it says,

1056
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: And somebody asked me, and I won't name your name

1057
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: because you can please name the name, because let me

1058
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: see the name. First of all, it's which one is.

1059
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: This is not a name, it's just it's just a

1060
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: couple of numbers. And then it's his La Rams. So

1061
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: if you want to go through my mention, I can

1062
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: say six two six, Right, I guess where is that?

1063
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: I assume Hambra? I think where is that? Not a hum?

1064
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where it is, but six two six

1065
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: is an Areo coade. Well I figured that, okay, okay.

1066
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: And it says Arla Ram's defense a good starting fantasy

1067
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: bet this weekend or shallow looks somewhere else. First of all,

1068
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: I don't care about your fantasy. I don't. First of all,

1069
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: I DeMarco knows this. I'm not a big fantasy football fan,

1070
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: like that's one thing. And he was with me on

1071
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: Sunday when something happened. Well, okay, because we're watching it.

1072
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: We're watching a game and a player goes tell us Bennett, Yeah,

1073
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 1: mart tell us Bennett goes down. And then some jerk

1074
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: who was standing behind us pretty strong it didn't know.

1075
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: I was having a great time at a tailgate. Yeah,

1076
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: he's a jerk because the first thing that comes out

1077
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: of his mouth he was a pastor at a church.

1078
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: Don't care what he was. Then if this is if

1079
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: this is Christian, then this is not okay okay, because

1080
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: he goes oh no, Martoe's better went out. I started

1081
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: him in fantasy this week. What kind of person are you?

1082
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: That is a human being? Yes, you know, and it's

1083
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: a person with a career, and it's a person with

1084
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: the family. And if you're just gonna start saying, oh man,

1085
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: what's my fantasy team, I'm a gonna do no. Like

1086
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care about you. I don't want

1087
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: to hear it. Don't come at me with it, don't

1088
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: ask me fantasy questions. I'm really bad at fantasy anyway,

1089
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: so I don't want to hear it. Don't tell me

1090
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: about your fantasy team. You just scared me. I'm a

1091
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: little a nerd right now. Brother, Wow, I get you.

1092
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: That's the first big rand I think I really had.

1093
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: That's good. But fantasy is you know, pay, I understand that.

1094
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: I understand that it's and it's is right. He can

1095
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: say whatever heever the hell he wants. I get you.

1096
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: It is it does bother you because the guys are human.

1097
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: They are human. He's in pain, and it's more than

1098
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: just fantasy. But and I'm sure he had a great

1099
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: because of how he feels about his fantasy team. That

1100
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: might be a bit strong. Well, it's not how he

1101
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: was about this fantasy team. It's it's how he feels

1102
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 1: about the player being injured because of this fantasy team.

1103
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: I got you. I'm right there with it. I agree

1104
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: with you. I agree with you. Yeah, we're just we

1105
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: have to get you to the point where that stuff

1106
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: doesn't bother you. I guess. So, yeah, we have to

1107
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: get me to the point where a lot of things

1108
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: don't bother Just let it go, let it go. I'm calm. Okay,

1109
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: that's calm, okay, all right, I hate to see you mad.

1110
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: Then yeah, yeah, no, all right, so you know next

1111
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: week we are going to go to London. Yes, Um,

1112
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: are you excited? Yeah? Um? The International series is fun. Yeah,

1113
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: it's great to travel across the pond and see other

1114
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: fan bases, other fans. The one thing that you're guaranteed

1115
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: to see no matter who's playing, You're going to see

1116
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: all thirty two jerseys. Yeah, no matter who's playing. And

1117
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: I like that. They're just fans of football. So how

1118
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: can you not love to be there? Well, you can.

1119
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: You spend some time over there and you're probably people

1120
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: don't really know this. Yeah in Germany though, yeah, I

1121
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: know it wasn't in London. Yeah, it's the same. They're

1122
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: on the they're they're infatuated and just so interested in

1123
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: American football, right, I mean they want to know more.

1124
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: They want to understand why why you do things like um,

1125
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: having to explain to someone who's not really who wasn't

1126
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: brought up in football, right, you know why they get

1127
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: together between each play. That stuff is fun to me.

1128
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: That's called the huddle. This is how they get plays,

1129
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: you know, in and out and that stuff. That stuff

1130
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: is fun. So you know, teaching the game to new people, um,

1131
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: and and spreading the game is it's always a good

1132
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: can't be a bad thing for the NFL. No, I

1133
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: want to ask what were you know? I know of

1134
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: the answer, But for the people who don't love, what

1135
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: were you doing in Germany? Were I was in Berlin

1136
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: for two seasons coaching the Berlin Thunder NFL Europe. Yeah, yeah,

1137
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: back to back World Bowls. There we go, yet one

1138
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: one lost the other. Yeah. Jim Tomsula exactly was the

1139
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: was the the off defensive coordinator and the D line coach.

1140
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: Two season? Yeah, two seasons. Great time over there, former

1141
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: head coach of the San Francisco forty nine ers. If

1142
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: that was will open, I'd still be there. Really, if

1143
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: NFL Europe was still active, I'd still be there. Why

1144
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: it was? It was awesome, It was awesome. You're taking

1145
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: guys and they don't send their best players. Sure, Um,

1146
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: they're all flawed. Um if it takes like if you

1147
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 1: have four tools that makes you a good football player,

1148
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: these guys may have one, but that one is outstanding. No,

1149
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, that one is outstanding. Like really really

1150
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: fast guys that can't make anybody miss or catch. Yeah,

1151
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But they're blindingly fast. So

1152
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: that's right. Um, we won the World Bowl with a

1153
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: quarterback named Rohan Davy. Okay, yright right, and over in Europe,

1154
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: the way the defense is set up, they don't want

1155
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: to get quarterbacks hit, right, right, so you can't really blitch.

1156
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: You can only bring six, so you can't. Greg Williams

1157
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: would have a problem right there. No one's coming free

1158
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. And we had a quarterback that could

1159
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: throw at eighty yards. Yeah, we're not gonna lose a game, right.

1160
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: It was fun though, yeah? Yeah, so I mean have

1161
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: you ever been to London though? Oh yeah, we're with

1162
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: the MS A couple of couple yeah yeah, um we're

1163
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: Tom Brady showed up on Thursday and proceeded to beat

1164
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: your head in. Yeah yeah, um that was cool Grenkowski, Um,

1165
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: just in all the build up, the rallies and whatnot.

1166
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: And you know, I guess the fans over there don't know.

1167
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: Gronk will do whatever you tell him, so um he's

1168
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: They asked him to come on stage and say a

1169
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: few words, so they gave him a mic. Oh boy, yeah,

1170
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: the host didn't keep the mic. They gave Gronk the mic,

1171
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: so of course the crowd says, spike it. So Bronk

1172
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: says okay and spikes the Micah hilarious. Yeah it was fun. Um,

1173
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: it was great. Just the entire experience was fun until

1174
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: game time, well after the Ram scored the first touchdown,

1175
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: it was yeah, but it was fun. Wembley was outstanding,

1176
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: the fans were great, We're going to twicken him this time. Yeah,

1177
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I don't really. People are telling me things

1178
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: about like where things are in London. And I went

1179
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: to London when I was like ten or eleven, did

1180
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: you really? Yes? It was this program I think it's

1181
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: called People to People and like we went um like

1182
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and two, so I guess I just dated myself.

1183
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: But we went over there and we were there for

1184
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: like two weeks, and we went to to Ireland, we

1185
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: went to Wales, we were in Scotland, and we're in London.

1186
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: So like we did all the cool stuff and yeah,

1187
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: like I did London trains, right, did Tower of London? No,

1188
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: we took buses and buses Okay, cool? Yeah, it was

1189
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: really cool. Um, And like I don't remember that that

1190
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: much of it, but I remember I remember that it

1191
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: was a cool experience. So I assume you're excited to

1192
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: go this absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, It's the thing I'm not

1193
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: excited for is the flight. It's not so bad. Everybody

1194
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: says that it's not so bad. What makes it not

1195
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: so bad? Well, it's not like you're doing all the

1196
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: work the plane is. All you're doing is sitting there.

1197
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: You can handle it. It's not so bad. And what

1198
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: are you are you six feet? Yeah? Oh? Six even? Well,

1199
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: I mean you can fit an airplane. Okay, yeah, okay,

1200
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: so you're good. It's not that bad. Okay, Yeah, imagine

1201
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: being Greg Robinson. That's probably not going to coach. See

1202
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: that's fun, right, yeah, that's probably not so Yeah. Yeah,

1203
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: all the peanuts in the world remedy that it's not

1204
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: gonna work. Yeah, Well, you know it's gonna be. It's

1205
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting trip because we're gonna be spending

1206
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: a week over there, and you know, I think it

1207
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: one of the good things about this is that the

1208
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: rams are going from the east coast, so you're going

1209
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: from not You're not gonna be eight hours of time

1210
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: difference in one day. True, right, it's only about five true,

1211
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: which is still bad. Yeah, but it's not gonna be

1212
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: probably as bad as it would be. But this is

1213
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: two early games now in a row that you're gonna

1214
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: have to face. This one is on just Sunday at Detroit.

1215
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be ten am LA time, right, and then

1216
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: this one in London that's gonna be six thirty a

1217
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: m LA. It's not like you're flying like you know,

1218
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: Joe Bag of Donuts Airline. You're on Virgin You're not, yes, yeah,

1219
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean you're going to be pampered. When I'm looking,

1220
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: there's gonna be plenty of time to acclimate to the

1221
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: time and the weather to get ready for Sunday. So look,

1222
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: the whole travel thing is an issue I think is

1223
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: out the window. Right. They've been doing this to London

1224
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: thing for a while exactly, and the Rams have done it.

1225
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: This will be their second time in the Jeff Fisher era.

1226
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, flying over there is not going to be

1227
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah, So let's let's hope that at least

1228
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: for the team. It might be for you, it might

1229
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: be for Miles. You know, I would make it even

1230
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: better though, a win on Sunday, that that would really

1231
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: make that thing. Always make things better when your phone

1232
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: rings on a podcast, yeah, exactly, we've won, it'd be okay,

1233
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: but we lose it bad exactly, and you're gonna get fine.

1234
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: Oh god, alright, well let's wrap this up. De far,

1235
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining me. Thank you and

1236
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: thanks for tuning in to you guys for Between the Horns.

1237
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: Thank you to Josh, my producer today. Appreciate it. Don't

1238
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: do anything, but he's looking back there. He's gonna edit

1239
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: this thing and he's gonna put it on the web

1240
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: and then he's gonna send it to me so we

1241
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: can put it up. Yeah, he should look at you, funny.

1242
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: Definitely look at him, funny, Josh, you're messing up my goodbye,

1243
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: go ahead anyway, Thank you, Thank you again, Josh. I

1244
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: appreciate it yet. No, we'll be sure to subscribe to

1245
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: Between the Horns on iTunes or SoundCloud. If you like

1246
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: what you're here, do let us know with a good review.

1247
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you for listening and watching. Wherever

1248
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: you may be in football. We will see you when

1249
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: we get back from across the pond. Let's talk fantasy