WEBVTT - Peacemaker 205: Back To The Suture

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<v Speaker 1>Worrying. Today's episode Canadian spoilers for peace Maker season two

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<v Speaker 1>episode five, He warned, Hello, my name is Jason Gettepsi

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<v Speaker 1>on and on Risday Night, and welcome back to X

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<v Speaker 1>ray Vision, the podcast where we dove you, but your

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<v Speaker 1>baby shot Coming you from my Heart podcast where we'll

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<v Speaker 1>bring you three episodes a week listens sometime plus.

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<v Speaker 2>The news and today's episode.

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<v Speaker 3>We are officially over halfway through peace Maker season two

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<v Speaker 3>and things are getting crazy, so me and Jason will

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<v Speaker 3>be recapping it, and then we're going to bring Ian

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<v Speaker 3>in our peace make it correspondent to talk theories for

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<v Speaker 3>the last three episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the season and where this could all be going.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that it's hinting that maybe we've been right

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<v Speaker 3>about some things, but I'm excited to dig into it

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<v Speaker 3>with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>More Peacemaker episode five, We've open on Junior Rick Flagg

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<v Speaker 1>Junior's funeral. His flag draped coffin is there, Harcourt is

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<v Speaker 1>there staring at the casket. Senior comes over and Senior

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<v Speaker 1>is bitter about the mission, about the resources his son

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<v Speaker 1>and his team was given to accomplish the mission, and

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<v Speaker 1>most of all, of course, he's bitter that he was

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<v Speaker 1>killed and the course of the mission. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened, and Harcourt's like, that's classified. Senior then

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<v Speaker 1>tells Harcourt that sadly Waller has it out for you,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry to say, and Hardcourt is like, I know, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, listen, You're always going to be part of

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<v Speaker 1>the family for me. Okay, Junior loved you and that's

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<v Speaker 1>good enough for me. That's what Junior would have wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Harcourt, I'm going to find the

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<v Speaker 1>person responsible for Junior's death and they will pay don

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<v Speaker 1>Don dun reliable.

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<v Speaker 3>That is how I felt off to the end of

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<v Speaker 3>James Gun's The Suicide Squad also, like I do I

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<v Speaker 3>love it that dealing with this, But I also did

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<v Speaker 3>think it was really funny because I was like, say,

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<v Speaker 3>your son was in the suicide Squad twice, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>think you've gotta be a bet dad, Like if he's

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<v Speaker 3>getting Team X, Like I think we know it's called

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<v Speaker 3>the suicide Squad, let's called the suicide Squad.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to the present. Harcourt is at the ambush

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<v Speaker 1>site where she is lured Chris two. It's a local park.

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<v Speaker 1>There's playground, there's kids, there's people playing frisbee. The whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Senior and the other Argus agents, including Fleury and Bordeaux

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<v Speaker 1>or like lurking in the crowd. Judo Master is on

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<v Speaker 1>the roof with some sort of tranquilizer sniper rifle, and

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<v Speaker 1>they see Chris approaching. And the way Chris is approaching

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<v Speaker 1>tells you that he knows.

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<v Speaker 2>That there's something's up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's like creeping behind people. He is like weaving

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<v Speaker 1>in and out of crowds. Senior tells Judo Master take

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<v Speaker 1>the first available shot. Chris comes up, sits next to Harcourt,

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<v Speaker 1>takes her little lave of mic, throws it away, then

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<v Speaker 1>switches seats with her so that she's in between Judo

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<v Speaker 1>Master and and him. And we learned that Harcourt learned

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<v Speaker 1>had warned Chris. She used a very specific word in

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<v Speaker 1>their conversation that let him know that something's wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a trap.

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<v Speaker 1>But Chris showed up anyway, and Hardcourt's and curiated is

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<v Speaker 1>like why did why are you here? Like what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing here? And he's like, I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>if it meant anything, And so clearly there was quite

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<v Speaker 1>a serious hookup. Which we've which we knew beforehand, but

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<v Speaker 1>now we're getting more of the outline.

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<v Speaker 3>Feels yeah, it feels more like this is clearly something

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<v Speaker 3>that for some reason Chris is like focusing on. This

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<v Speaker 3>is this idea of being with Hawk call this pet

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<v Speaker 3>Henshawl for a romance.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's trying to show him away. He just wants

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<v Speaker 1>to know, like, did you ever have feelings for me? Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Argus is moving in to like block all the exits

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<v Speaker 1>into him and Chris. All the while Harcourt is just

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<v Speaker 1>like peeling Chris's ass about I never cared about you.

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<v Speaker 1>It meant nothing. Get out of here. You're a fucking idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish that had never happened, whatever it was. And

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<v Speaker 1>as for Rick Flegg Junior, which Chris is very interested in, like,

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<v Speaker 1>so what was going on with Junior? Like, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>deal with him? Was that the issue? Did you have

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<v Speaker 1>feelings for him? She's like, listen, Junior was only ever

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<v Speaker 1>a friend?

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<v Speaker 2>Why this woman? Man? What the heck?

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<v Speaker 1>Why lie about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Why lie? I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, especially because it's about the time is about

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<v Speaker 5>to come up, and says when it comes to Junior,

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<v Speaker 5>so not a great idea, but she's not making a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of choices this yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. Argus finally moves in. Chris is surrounded,

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<v Speaker 1>Bordeaux is prepping to kill Chris, and Harcourt, hearing this

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<v Speaker 1>over the radio, runs in blocks the shot, chokes out

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<v Speaker 1>Chris and saves his life. Back at the cabin, Adamo

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<v Speaker 1>gets a call about her ad in Modern Soldier, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like the caller is mostly interested in the

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<v Speaker 1>ad because of the unrealistic art depicting herself, which she

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<v Speaker 1>is now telling the guy, Yes, that's me in the ad. Absolutely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this funny shadow. He then asks for Greek, which is

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<v Speaker 1>we're but we learn what it is. But my first

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<v Speaker 1>reaction was, that's like a boomer term for anal.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, because I know spotts or something like. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I and then that is confirmed.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely confirmed, and that is oh man, this there's an author.

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<v Speaker 1>I first read about this term from an author in

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<v Speaker 1>a book by an author who's like the knockoff Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>King of the eighties. Anyway, I forget the guy's Dean

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Koots I big, I love listen, I absolutely love

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<v Speaker 1>d kods, read a lot of books. I recorded Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>King books and that's where I first encountered the term

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<v Speaker 1>Greek anyway, and is very psyched that she's got a

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<v Speaker 1>customer now. But VI is like, oh, yeah, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>were having a prostitution conversation. Yeah the guy, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what that was.

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<v Speaker 2>I do This is a great season so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Not enough Vigilante like this is this is my not

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<v Speaker 3>so funny And every time he comes in he adds

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<v Speaker 3>so much. He's so engaging. It's such a great performance

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<v Speaker 3>by Freddy Stromer.

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<v Speaker 2>I am sing him.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm hoping. Yeah, lost three seat episodes, we get more.

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<v Speaker 1>At a Bio and and Vigilanta. I'd say both of them.

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<v Speaker 4>I leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like every episode at is gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like be a key pop seeing is why

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<v Speaker 2>we leave this.

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<v Speaker 1>So back at Argust, Harcourt and Bordeaux like bicker about

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<v Speaker 1>the arrest, like what the fuck was that? What the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck was that? I'm doing my fucking job, blah blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. Chris greets economists as he leads is

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<v Speaker 1>led past his little cubicle and cuffs. Harcourt pulls economists

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<v Speaker 1>aside and is like, listen, he's an economists, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe you betrayed the eleven Street Kids and Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, She's like, uh yeah. She's like I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to warn him, but he fucking showed up because

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<v Speaker 1>he's an idiot. And then Economist is like she's and

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<v Speaker 1>then she's like, what's the deal with with her with Bordeaux?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like that this board bitch is is a cyborg.

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<v Speaker 1>We learn Oh, Harcourt is scared that Senior is going

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<v Speaker 1>to kill Chris and then throw his body at a dumpstir,

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<v Speaker 1>which is clearly what he's planning to do. So she's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to put him into the booking system so

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<v Speaker 1>that he can't be disappeared. Meanwhile, we get some very

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<v Speaker 1>humorous clips of Red Saint Wild out in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>hunting Egaly, which is probably the biggest reveal of the

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<v Speaker 1>entire episode of what happens in that PI Oh Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy has Chris in the interrogation room. He clears the room,

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<v Speaker 1>he turns off the cameras. He's like, everybody, get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. I gotta deal with this interrogation myself. He

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<v Speaker 1>then starts to beat the shit out of Chris as

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<v Speaker 1>he's tied to a chair, throw him around the room,

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<v Speaker 1>kick him in the head, step on his neck, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. Chris is trying to apologize. Meanwhile, Economists is

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<v Speaker 1>out there and he finally puts Chris in the booking system.

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<v Speaker 1>Bored Bordeaux sees it pop up and is like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck are you doing? And Econos is like very

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<v Speaker 1>funny lines. He's like, well, I don't know share, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to save people busy work.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, it is the law, the law, It's the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Flurry very surprisingly, and I love this turn for this

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<v Speaker 1>character is like, good job, man, that's the right.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing to do. Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I love Flurry and Economists together so much.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, we need this friendship to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Borgeau goes into the interrogation room where like interrupting Senior

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<v Speaker 1>as he's like mid extinguishing Chris's life, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Like very please police brutality situation, going on to tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Him listen, so Chris has been booked, so you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>stop killing him now. Meanwhile, Eaglely drops down to eat

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<v Speaker 1>a rat that Saint Wilde has poisoned, but he's interrupted

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<v Speaker 1>by ad and Vigilante going to like try to rescue

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<v Speaker 1>Chris from Argus, and immediately after that, after they come

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house, a fox shows up steals a rat.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a chase. The fox eventually eats the rat and dies,

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<v Speaker 1>and Eaglely is like, uh oh, somebody's trying to kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Wild then decides that it's time for literally the

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<v Speaker 1>big guns. It's like literally a huge gun. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>takes out of like a case. Argus has to release Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>which I didn't think. Listen, if you're willing to go

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<v Speaker 1>this far now you have to release him because but fine, fine, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like, okay, so you have an illegal

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<v Speaker 1>like toss boss X type situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Also like if somebody gets book who has superpowers, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to let I don't know about that, but sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I let it go.

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<v Speaker 4>Let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>Economists is helping Chris, who is really really in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad way to adds cars. Judo Master watches from the

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<v Speaker 1>nearby woods, and Judo Master follows them as they as

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<v Speaker 1>they leave Bordeau, then talks to Senior about what's happening today.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy day at the office clearly, and Senior is like, listen, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't want to kill Chris.

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<v Speaker 1>What No, this is about the dimensional rift.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, which we all.

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<v Speaker 1>Know from seeing Superman is a really that's important. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a big, big deal. Meanwhile, as this is occurring, Bordeaux flirting.

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<v Speaker 2>With Senior death Ban Nutlee.

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<v Speaker 3>She's liked no question, no, no, no, Like all I

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<v Speaker 3>was thinking about was, you know, like the princess, like

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<v Speaker 3>SENI is obviously his reputation precedes him, like he is

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<v Speaker 3>obviously like his son.

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<v Speaker 1>I love a man, Yes he is. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>fan of the women folk. And meanwhile, at Bio doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe Hardcourt, a fellow's eleventh streat kid, could have betrayed

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<v Speaker 1>them and Chris, which Chris is telling her, Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>she dimed me out. She like lured me to a trap.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd warned me it was a trap, but I showed

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<v Speaker 1>up anyway. Yeah yeah, And Chris is like, listen, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care what her reasons are. Whatever the reasons are,

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<v Speaker 1>I am done with her. Left unspoken of course, is

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<v Speaker 1>like I've got a better hard Court, Yes, exactly, forget

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<v Speaker 1>this one. I've got the perfect one. So meanwhile, in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods State, Wilde takes aim with his big He misses,

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<v Speaker 1>but his second shot finds the mark and Eagerly or

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<v Speaker 1>an eagle fall to the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I'm very excited to talk more about Eagly

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<v Speaker 3>which question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, So meanwhile, Chris added Vigilante. They get back

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<v Speaker 1>to the cabin, Chris Chris asks them to leave him

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<v Speaker 1>alone because he's like, I need some privacy. Just leave

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<v Speaker 1>me alone here at the cabin. He's limping very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very badly. He whistles for Eaglely as Judo Master watches

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<v Speaker 1>from the woods, but is eagerly dead.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's a different eagle, different different eagle.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Wild goes to the corpse of the eagle, but

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<v Speaker 1>then is attacked by one, two, three, four, five, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eagles who are now surrounding him. As Eaglely the

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<v Speaker 1>true prime Eagle, we just go the actual prime Eagle

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<v Speaker 1>of legend then orders the eagles to like kill this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just tear him to mince back as he

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<v Speaker 1>cries tears of regret forever having wronged the prime Prime.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I love Michael Worcok.

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<v Speaker 3>This man, he can do the craziest shit like this

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<v Speaker 3>is such a funny Wild role. I would love to

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<v Speaker 3>be a friend of a director like this, who's like,

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<v Speaker 3>just come in and play like the craziest role possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know you're gonna ea up.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Uh writes a goodbye letter to his friends, addressed

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<v Speaker 1>mainly to Addebio, but it's of course to everybody. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Judah Master calls Fleury and is like, hey, I got him,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's here and he's alone. We should move in.

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<v Speaker 1>Juda Master says uh, and but and Fleury like calls

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<v Speaker 1>Juda Master Duncan Munchkins as his nickname, as he has

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<v Speaker 1>nicknames for everybody, and Juda Master says, listen, if you

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<v Speaker 1>call me that again, I will actually, in reality tear

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<v Speaker 1>off your penis. So then Fleury's like, okay, sorry, Juda

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<v Speaker 1>Master Uh and then hangs up, and as he like

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<v Speaker 1>looks off after hanging off hanging up, looks across the office,

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<v Speaker 1>he sees in a conference Senior and Bordeaux like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like she's got her hand on his shoulder. She's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like rubbing the shoulder. Senior is like glow smiling

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<v Speaker 1>at her like it's happening, and Fleury then interrupts them

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<v Speaker 1>to tell them I have a location for the peacemaker

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<v Speaker 1>eaglely brings one of Saint Wild's I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a penis at first, and it's thank god, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of his fingers. He brings one of Saint Wild's fingers

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<v Speaker 1>to Chris, and Chris is like, okay, he has no

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<v Speaker 1>almost no reaction all. Chris texts ad goodbye, goes to

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<v Speaker 1>the portal, goes inside, prepares the alien handbag basically to

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<v Speaker 1>close it behind him. Eglia and Chris then step inside

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<v Speaker 1>as Judo Master watch is mesmerized. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I really noticed that this is clearly like

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<v Speaker 1>the the speed force.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the type of slash, similar kind of polly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>what do they call it, the cosmic treadmill or something,

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<v Speaker 3>the cosmic Yes like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So Judah Master calls Flurry, but there's too much interference

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<v Speaker 1>from the interdimensional portal, so he follows Chris inside the

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<v Speaker 1>portal just as it closes. And now so Chris Eagerly

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<v Speaker 1>and Judo Master are in this dimensional Grand Central Station

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<v Speaker 1>and at a Bio and Vig arrived back at the cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>But they realize that, you know, the portal's closed, and

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<v Speaker 1>that Judah Master was there. They know, and they then

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<v Speaker 1>leave the cabin, but before they go, at a bio

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<v Speaker 1>finds a good bye letter and she's like, Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>got to get everybody together, includes Hardcourt, everybody, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got to figure this out. Chris is in the Perfect Universe.

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<v Speaker 1>He's taking a shower. He's like having fun and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just looking around like his room now. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>this was like a getaway before, but now it's real.

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<v Speaker 1>This is his his life. This is his life now.

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<v Speaker 1>And his brother, Captain Triumph comes in and is like,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got to Kaiju call, we gotta go do this.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up with the Eagle? And Chris is like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just a you know, runaway eagle that I've found.

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<v Speaker 1>His name's Eaglely just so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like this season. I feel like season

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<v Speaker 2>one A Piece Maker was good. I know people loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it was working out a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the kinks and also existing in a pre Superman James

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<v Speaker 3>Gun universe world. I feel like this has really come

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<v Speaker 3>in with a second season where just tonally, everything is

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<v Speaker 3>so good that it's so funny, every joke is sharp.

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<v Speaker 3>I love I know Fleury is a controversial character, but

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<v Speaker 3>I just love tim Meadows, and I'm loving that. This

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<v Speaker 3>feels like it's kind of setting up him to truly

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<v Speaker 3>be an ally to Chris, which I think is what

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<v Speaker 3>he always wanted, is to be an ally to economists

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<v Speaker 3>and Chris, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I like his turn. Yeah. At another location, Ad reads

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<v Speaker 1>the letter to all of them, and basically Chris is

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<v Speaker 1>telling them when he's he's going to the other dimension

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<v Speaker 1>to be with that version of Harcourt and to be

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<v Speaker 1>the best version of himself. He doesn't belong in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not having fun here does. He feels that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the right place for him, and in fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>world is turned against him. He wants them, therefore, to

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<v Speaker 1>take the he's left them the portal controls. He says, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>take this to Argus, turn it over to them so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can all get your jobs back and get

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<v Speaker 1>promoted and have success in your careers, which is clearly

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<v Speaker 1>all you care about. Harcourt Vigilante is like fucking hard, crying,

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<v Speaker 1>like ugly, he's so sad. At A Bio is like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we got to go and get him, and she's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen how this thing is used. You like, line

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<v Speaker 1>up these little pegs and it's like a board game.

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<v Speaker 1>Harcourt says, well, we can't use it here in town.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to go like to someplace remote because you

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<v Speaker 1>know the energy you released. Yeah, yeah yeah. Meanwhile, we

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<v Speaker 1>see post Kaiju battle. Chris with the remnants of the

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<v Speaker 1>Kaiju like on his uniform, walks into Argus. Harcourt is there.

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<v Speaker 1>She sees him, her face lights up, she embraces him,

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<v Speaker 1>and we go to the credits.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the end. That is the end of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a quick break, after which we will bring

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<v Speaker 1>in Super Preducer and we will talk about this and

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. Welcome you into the programming in how are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Another great episode this season is it's been very far.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. Very consistent. Yeah, very consistent in tone

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<v Speaker 1>and in pace.

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<v Speaker 2>And in everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, tell us your what's your your thoughts on this episode?

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<v Speaker 4>So overall I liked the episode. This definitely felt more

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<v Speaker 4>of like a set up episode for you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>three final episodes. And you guys touch on some points

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<v Speaker 4>that I had written in my notes as well. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think to the point that you guys are making

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<v Speaker 4>about Vigilanti and out of Bio, I do think this

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<v Speaker 4>is setting them up to have a major role in

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<v Speaker 4>these finals, and that in the alternate dimension. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're clearly going to follow Chris into this alternate dimension.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's gonna be an issue when Out of Bio

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<v Speaker 4>walks into this white supremacist, racist world. So I think

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<v Speaker 4>that could be the impetus for you know, Chris realizing, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is fucked up. I need to save my friend

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<v Speaker 4>or something like that. You know that he's going to

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<v Speaker 4>have this kind of reckoning or realization moment that this

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<v Speaker 4>place isn't as great as I thought it was. Out

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<v Speaker 4>of Bio is my best friend. I got to protect her.

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<v Speaker 4>I gotta save her. So I think that something is

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<v Speaker 4>going to happen with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what's gonna happen is Flurry is going to

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<v Speaker 1>die in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that, Like he's gotta go. They can't

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<v Speaker 2>keep him medals for too long. He's too powerful.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, like Judo Master probably gonna get.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna get sucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think that season one they were trying

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<v Speaker 3>to trying to play on the a little bit on

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<v Speaker 3>like the racist origins of Judo Master. They've had him

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<v Speaker 3>always kind of come back and always actually like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of survive whatever everyone's trying. He got shot, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fingers crossed he's not gonna die, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>think he's gonna get fucked up extensively. I also think

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<v Speaker 3>this will potentially finally be the moment that Judo Master

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<v Speaker 3>becomes part of the Eleventh Street Kids, that is, if.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think that if you remember, like in the

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<v Speaker 3>first season, Vigilante has like some really famous moments where

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<v Speaker 3>he's just like roasting.

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<v Speaker 2>The Klan, roasting the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I think that him and Ads going in there

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<v Speaker 3>together is gonna make a lot of sense. Also, Vigilante's

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<v Speaker 3>power is like he sucks at everything, but he's like

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<v Speaker 3>the best like one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Of killing people.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm assuming we'll get some kind of crazy like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minute kind of like violent death sequence. Fingers crossed

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<v Speaker 3>are the big Okay, let's talk about Sasha, because this

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<v Speaker 3>was something where it's like, didn't want to bring it

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<v Speaker 3>up in case they didn't deliver on it. But she

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<v Speaker 3>is a cyborg, and I also think this is really

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<v Speaker 3>interesting because she if they follow the comics with her,

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<v Speaker 3>she's Greg Rucker and Sean Martin broke Creation and she

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<v Speaker 3>was basically in their detective comics run in like the

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<v Speaker 3>early two thousands. Two thousand, No, yeah, I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was actually the end of two thousand. Anna basically like

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<v Speaker 3>Lucia's Fox hires her to be security for Wayne Enterprises,

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<v Speaker 3>but she keeps realizing that something dodges going on with

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Wayne and becomes like an unexpected antagonist. So she's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like super smart. She knows everything that's going down.

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<v Speaker 3>James Gunn has said that she may work with Batman

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<v Speaker 3>in this universe, which makes sense because we haven't really

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<v Speaker 3>gotten We don't know what the Batman is going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know what the Lucius Fox situation here is

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be. But yeah, very very interesting here. Also we

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<v Speaker 3>know that James's brother Sean is playing Maxwell Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>She has connections to.

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<v Speaker 3>Him, but generally just a unexpected another classic deep kind

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<v Speaker 3>of deep dive situation because she has also like got

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<v Speaker 3>connections to the League.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Shadows like she is.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like potential with Blue Beetle, but that depends if

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<v Speaker 3>what version of Max my Lord we're getting. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's I think this is really interesting and

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to see the.

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<v Speaker 2>Version that, like the original version of.

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<v Speaker 3>Her, the cyborg is like super cool stylized kind of

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<v Speaker 3>different look of almost a Tetsuo Iron Man, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, like bit wires coming out of her

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<v Speaker 3>arms and stuff. So yeah, I would I would like to.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to see where that's gonna go. And

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, as we've seen how ingrained the Peacemaker

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<v Speaker 3>world is in the Superman world, I don't think any

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<v Speaker 3>of this stuff is like MCU style, not going to

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<v Speaker 3>pay off.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, so see her with these choices for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think we'll see how Cyborg out in the

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<v Speaker 3>last three episodes or do you think they'll save it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're gonna see a little bit more of it,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, I think they were very intentional in

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<v Speaker 4>waiting until this episode to show us that she is

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<v Speaker 4>a cyborg. So I think she's gonna use her powers

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<v Speaker 4>or abilities in some capacity I think in these final

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<v Speaker 4>three episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I also have another question for you guys. So

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<v Speaker 3>we know that Peacemaker in the Perfect World didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>an Eaglely, right, but we are also dealing with the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that the Eaglely this season is like super powered

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<v Speaker 3>up compared to the Eaglely last season, and everyone's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like, well, why wouldn't it Eagerly helped out when

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<v Speaker 3>in the first episode, piece Maker has Eagerly fly around

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<v Speaker 3>the dimensional handbag kind of terminal, and then he calls

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 3>him back and Eagerly follows him out.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it an Eagerly from a different dimension?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh oh, because I think I'm gonna say, I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>like the idea that it's not, and it could be

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<v Speaker 1>like the primal Eagle is kind of an evolution.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am also interested because we did see Eagerly

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 3>leave the viewpoint Chris couldn't find him having come back,

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm interested to see where that goes because this

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 3>Eagerly is a big step up, but it's also just

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<v Speaker 3>so much fun and they probably had a bigger budget.

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<v Speaker 2>So I also wonder if it's not narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>My feeling is that it's not another Egle because it's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's kind of been established that, like at least

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<v Speaker 1>your your cell phone wouldn't work, and it different dimension.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not sure that your powers which tie you

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<v Speaker 1>to the natural, like if your powers derived from a

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<v Speaker 1>specific Earth, it doesn't track for me that then your

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<v Speaker 1>powers would work on a different earth.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that a lot. That's a very good like.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the kind of natural logic in the way

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<v Speaker 3>that we're thinking about the connecting tissue of what gives

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 3>people powers.

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:29.120
<v Speaker 2>That is a really cool take.

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Ian craziest, give us your most expected theory of

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 3>what happens in the next three and then your craziest

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:41.160
<v Speaker 3>theory of what happens in.

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 4>The next I think my most expected is I think

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 4>we're going to see Superman, but maybe instead of just

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.120
<v Speaker 4>like our normal Superman, maybe it's like an evil Nazi Superman.

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 4>If he'd be interesting because like we haven't really seen

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:59.160
<v Speaker 4>any other heroes from this other universe and so.

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 3>They did in just this style super exactly. I think

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:04.400
<v Speaker 3>that would be crazy.

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 4>That's I've been thinking about it more, and I was like, yeah,

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 4>just having like David corn Sweat show up at the

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 4>end to like save everybody's kind of boring. We have

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 4>this alternate universe, there's an opportunity to do something a

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.199
<v Speaker 4>little more fun there, So yeah, what if we get

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 4>like an evil alt Superman in this other dimension or something.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:22.680
<v Speaker 4>And then another theory that I was thinking about, going

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 4>back to Vigilante several times throughout this season he's said like, Oh,

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 4>I wonder if there's another me over there. I can't

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 4>wait to meet another version of myself. So I was thinking, like,

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 4>what if we see like an even more fucked up,

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 4>like super evil version of Vigilante in this other dimension.

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 4>Maybe him and our vig have to do get out,

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 4>Maybe our Adrian dies. I don't know, because I think

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 4>they're setting him up to have some big role. I

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 4>think in these last episodes, because he hasn't done anything

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 4>all season, maybe he has to sacrifice himself to save

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 4>the rest of the team or something. Yeah, So I

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 4>think that's another guess our theory I'm thrown out there.

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I think another thing that would be interesting with the

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.560
<v Speaker 3>is like if the vig In that they see in

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 3>the other world is like incredibly efficient and like not

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 3>a dumb cough, you know, Like it's like he's like

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of he seems normal, but he is that more

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>deranged kind of thing. Jason, what would your biggest, like

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 3>big swing theory be that you'd love to see them

0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:21.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of try and pull off.

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I agree with the I agree with Ian that I

0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>think that they are we're going to see, we're going

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 1>to understand when we meet that universus Superman why they

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>are not. Actually, I'm going to go the other way

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>because I think that it's too early for Evil Superman.

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:43.440
<v Speaker 2>We did.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Superman is not even a year in the theaters or

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>like in the world and Mayaro Bugeon already, and I

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's too I think it muddies the water's too

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>much to have a fully Homeland or Superman. And I

0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.840
<v Speaker 1>think what we're going to discover, Remember, they're the top

0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>trio in there. Why because the other superheroes are either

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>dead or they their powers suck, you know, not good enough.

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 2>To be so funny to see like enough Superman.

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I think it's going to be some version

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of that, Like we're going to find the whatever, the

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Justice Gang, the Justice League, the j l A, the

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>whatever team in there in that universe. But we're also

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>going to discover why it is Chris, his dad, and

0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 1>his brother who are the only mainline heroes because everybody

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>else is either incompetent or have very power.

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Maybe yeah, like if that power is enough. Yeah, I

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 3>really hope that they deliver on the promise of because

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I think, like Ian, you would definitely the first person

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 3>I had to pose that everybody white theory, and I

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 3>feel like it has really picked up on the Internet

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 3>and multiple different outlets are reporting it. I think it's

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 3>such a strong route for them to go, and once

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 3>again shows James Gunn having depth when he utilizes a

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 3>character like White Dragon that could be not thoughtfully done.

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>I really my biggest swing I want them to do

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 2>is I just want them to commit, and I want that.

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 3>To be what is wrong with the world and I

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 3>want to see how Ads and Peacemaker and Vig and

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 3>everyone have to deal with that. But also I'm also

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 3>interested where does Harcourt go? That's my feeling because she

0:30:39.320 --> 0:30:42.640
<v Speaker 3>wants to go and save Chris.

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, So I wanted to talk about some feeling.

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 3>So could you talk a little bit about im where

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 3>you think Amelia Harcourt is going to go?

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Because so that was one of the questions I

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 4>was asking myself to watching this episode and reflecting on

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 4>the season, like do we think she actually has romantic

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 4>feelings for Chris? And I think it's pretty obvious yes,

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 4>or at least she cares about him in some capacity.

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 4>She's tried to save him, tries to help him throughout

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 4>the season, you know, having a commost book him so

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't get disappeared, you know, taking him out before

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 4>Bodou and Bordeaux can get the shot off, which actually

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 4>we learn apparently Rick Flagg Senior like kind of was

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 4>playing forty chaces, like, oh I knew she yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:24.680
<v Speaker 4>But I think the guilt she feels over Rick Flagg

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Junior's death is weighing so heavily on her that she

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 4>won't allow herself to, you know, have these feelings for Chris,

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 4>and I think she's kind of that's what she's been

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.120
<v Speaker 4>wrestling with this whole season because and clearly I think

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 4>Rick Flagg Senior knows that it is playing into that

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 4>guilt very heavily to manipulate her.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>So I think, yeah, I go for an.

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.400
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I think, you know, in making this decision

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 4>to like, fuck it, let's go save Chris, you know,

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 4>maybe she sees her alternate version of herself that is

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 4>clearly much happier, less jaded, and like is in love

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 4>with Chris, wants to be with him. Maybe that'll be

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 4>like kind of an AHA moment for her. I don't know,

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 4>it'd be interesting to see what happens there.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm going to pitch a different angle, which I

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 3>do think she has feelings for Chris. I also think

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 3>that they're doing actually a very good job this season

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 3>of showing what it's like when someone is in like

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 3>a self saboteur mode and they just want to fucking

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 3>destroy their life because they're really unhappy and feel really bad.

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 3>I think that's actually been done very interestingly. I also

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 3>think that that part of the reason that she can't

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 3>commit to Chris is like Chris just loves her and

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 3>is nice and is not having an affair and is

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 3>not treating her as if she's like a second option.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Or it's too good.

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>It's too good. She doesn't feel like she's worthy of it.

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 3>But my second pitch that I think in the other world,

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I think, and maybe i'm you know, gen V pilled

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 3>as we know I'm a big Gen B fan, But yes,

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 3>there is a I did think there was some interesting

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 3>if they were doing there about like trad wifs in

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Superman and super superheroic culture, and I would be interested

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 3>to know if when she goes there, her first read

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Ian is like, oh, wow, they're happy here, but then

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 3>we learn like everyone else. Maybe the reason she's being

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 3>passionate about is because these are the three biggest super

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 3>villains in the world and they're gonna fucking like kill

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 3>you if you don't date their son. You know. I

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>wonder if there's I wonder if our Hardcourt kind of

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 3>sees her and it first looks at that and then

0:33:28.120 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 3>realizes like, oh no.

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 2>This is a bad situation.

0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Because also we're going to get the three I'm guessing

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 3>all three episodes are going to have to be in

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 3>this other universe that.

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 4>Fears I would imagine, So, yeah, it happens. Climax.

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Also, kid you check in that was definitely like a

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 2>similar or the same from Superman. Right, yeah, so again,

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>use some of those assets, reused some of those assets.

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Very clever. Also, what does this mean?

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 3>I want? I think something I would love by the

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>end of this season is to know what these dimensional

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 3>rifts and multi verses mean to James Gunn's DC universe,

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 3>because currently it makes sense to continue it from Superman,

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 3>but we need to know what the impact is and

0:34:12.120 --> 0:34:14.880
<v Speaker 3>how many worlds are there and why does it I mean,

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 3>we know there's ninety nine doors in this place, but

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I just I would love to have a little bit

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:23.240
<v Speaker 3>of closure, but not closing a door on a story.

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.400
<v Speaker 3>Closure of this is how it's going to impact what

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 3>we have going forward.

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:32.719
<v Speaker 1>Can we talk about the Rick flag Bordeaux situation. So

0:34:33.120 --> 0:34:36.759
<v Speaker 1>I think we're heading towards a place where Hardcourt and

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Bordeaux are gonna fight. Oh yeah, I think we're heading

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>towards a place where Rick Flagg is going to have

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>to decide whether his statement that you're always going to

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>be part of the family is actually going to hold

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>because I think Bordeaux is gonna maybe have an opportunity

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>to snuff out Harcore. But where do we think we're

0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.879
<v Speaker 1>going with that? And I also love I just love

0:34:59.920 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>that that they're continuing as you know, yeah Rick, I

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>love that when they were continuing that theme from Rick.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 2>Also, Okay, what about this? This is I would say

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 2>this is a very specific to this being in peace

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>make a world. But Senior and Hawkour, I mean, it

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be the craziest thing. I'm just saying.

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 3>I think he's to happen, but I think he's probably

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 3>considered it.

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, here's I think Rick Senior. I don't think he would.

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I think he's considerate clearly. I think he's like Consuys

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and obviously he's devastated that his son is gone, but

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>he's also thinking who's keeping her warman, you know, like

0:35:55.120 --> 0:36:02.080
<v Speaker 1>she must act and I'm here and so together.

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.919
<v Speaker 6>That is actually such a crazy that would be so

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 6>funny if that was the end game of this season

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 6>and like that's the two people that end together and

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 6>Chris is just stuck, like still not.

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:16.839
<v Speaker 4>But where do where do.

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.320
<v Speaker 1>We leave Rick Flag at the end of this season?

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 3>I think he's an ally by the end. I think

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 3>he's on the side of the Eleventh Street kids.

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how we.

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Deal with the fact that the way Chris killed Rick

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:42.839
<v Speaker 3>Flagg Junior is like it's so brutal, it's so heartbreaking,

0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 3>it's horrible because Rick was finally going to do the

0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 3>right thing, Like I think it's going to be hot.

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like, do you remember when I know

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the answer this is going to be yes?

0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 3>When famous British martial artists Jason Statham joined the Fantastic,

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.960
<v Speaker 3>The Fast and Furious franchise and killed Han right, and

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 3>then you had to bring back Hahn because everyone was like, well,

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 3>I will never like this.

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Jason Statham character.

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Sure if Han is not actually alive and it was

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 3>all faked out. So I think we're in an interesting

0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 3>situation there where obviously Rick Flagg Junior is not still alive.

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.000
<v Speaker 3>He is dead, But we're gonna have to get to

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 3>a place where Senior has forgiven that and moved on

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 3>and kind of they have to just get over it,

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 3>because that's the nature of the job, I think, is

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 3>where we're gonna have to be.

0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think ultimately all of our characters that are

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.800
<v Speaker 4>in play are going to end up in this alternate dimension.

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 4>I think there's gonna be an initial scuffle or fight

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 4>or something, but I think eventually they're all going to

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:45.319
<v Speaker 4>have to work together to get out of there, to

0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 4>get back home. And I think in doing that or

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.719
<v Speaker 4>through that process, maybe Chris and Senior will come to

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 4>some understanding, because you know, the whole time where Rick

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:57.520
<v Speaker 4>Flagg was beating the shit out of him, Chris didn't

0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 4>fight back. He was apologizing.

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he knew I respected.

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 4>Your son, sir, like you know, I'm sorry, I was

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 4>just following orders. Your son was a hero, he was

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 4>a better man than me. All this stuff. So maybe

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, Chris Will might be able to win him

0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.400
<v Speaker 4>over or earn ray Flagg's respect in some regard or

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 4>in some way throughout the rest of these last three episodes.

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:20.759
<v Speaker 3>Classic he could save Senia's life and then Senia is like, well,

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:23.120
<v Speaker 3>I can't kill you now, Like I don't like it,

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 3>but you saved my life, so I'm not you know,

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:26.680
<v Speaker 3>we're equal, we're.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 4>Even, yeah, or we're even.

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Man, I want to see these lost three episodes

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.000
<v Speaker 2>so badly. It's gonna have.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing. Obviously, I'm loving the will they won't they

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<v Speaker 1>with Chris and Harcourt. I think it's such an important

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<v Speaker 1>driver to the show, and I'm left almost feeling like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a classic problem in TV writing, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to extend this as long as possible because

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<v Speaker 1>once they do get together energy and it's the Pam

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim problem right now.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to introduce problems into the relationship. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you do that now you're gonna split the audience.

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<v Speaker 3>There's sports betting app don't bring it in. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 3>gotta be there's gotta be something. So my question Hardcourt

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<v Speaker 3>and Chris do they get together at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>this season?

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<v Speaker 1>End if they do just one of them and it

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<v Speaker 1>has to be hardcore, do we find a way to

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<v Speaker 1>break them up after they get together, by either death

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<v Speaker 1>or something else trapping her in the other age.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like she's a big part of the the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like James Gunn is gonna want to keep her.

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<v Speaker 3>We could always see a Hardcourt switcheroo where the messed

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<v Speaker 3>up self Sabato Hardcourt ends up stet in the universe

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<v Speaker 3>and the other Hardcore comes out. Could give her a

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<v Speaker 3>different kind of vibe, a different performance to play into

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<v Speaker 3>into season three. But Jason, I think you're right. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think that they can have Chris. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>they can just have Chris and Emilia be happy and

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<v Speaker 3>that not completely changed the tone of the show, because

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<v Speaker 3>also what would that look like?

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<v Speaker 2>They'll have to say. James Gunn is a pretty deep person.

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<v Speaker 3>He has also like been through recovery and stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>that I believe in like and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe he has a really insightful, thoughtful third season

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<v Speaker 3>where a subplot is about how two people who are

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<v Speaker 3>really fucked up try and be in a healthy relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I could see that for sure, but yeah, I'm intrigued.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he's going to fire his wife though,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>She's exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, but she'll be in the show, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just will figure Yeah. So I'm also left feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>this when they close that portal, somebody's got to get trapped.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody's got to be the person who's like, get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm yes, yeah, I think think Vigilante is my top choice.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a we do need a death, Okay, Vigilante, Rosie,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>I think this show, originally in season one, started with

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<v Speaker 3>an in character and a protagonist in Ads, and I

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<v Speaker 3>do think there is a chance that after everything, Ads

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<v Speaker 3>could be like the hero. And then season three is

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<v Speaker 3>you have to get Ads back from this crazy world,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if it's the world that we know. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think Vigilante. I feel like that could be a great

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<v Speaker 3>character arc for her. But I feel like Vigilante or

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<v Speaker 3>Judo Master or Flurry are all interesting options.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be eagerly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man. But you know what, that's actually a great point, Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>because that could be why they've made him so ope,

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<v Speaker 3>because if you know he's gonna die at the end

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<v Speaker 3>or sacrifice himself, and also that would lead into an

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<v Speaker 3>incredible reunion if some how he managed to get back

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<v Speaker 3>for season three.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I can't wait to see how this ends. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we all feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what a season?

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<v Speaker 1>What a season. On the next episode of X ray Vision,

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<v Speaker 1>we're diving.

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<v Speaker 2>Into stuff, stuff stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening, Bye bye. X ray Vision is hosted

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<v Speaker 1>by Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and is a production

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<v Speaker 3>Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 1>Our theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 1>songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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