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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games of Names. I'm Julian Edelman, and we

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Speaker 1: got a brand new compilation highlight reels starting now now.

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Speaker 2: Keishawn Johnson on the biggest fight he ever saw between

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Speaker 2: Parcels and Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Parcels ever have drills for the defensive guys. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: always had to like on how to carry the ball.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they we used to do that.

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Speaker 1: Bill would show those plays, yeah and say, look, asshole,

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Speaker 1: like you're not We're not doing this right, Okay, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna do this, it better be the last play

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Speaker 1: of the game, and we need you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's just fucking Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: I would hate to be in the film room with

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Speaker 2: Bill after if I had done that latter.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy though, this crazy man and this game

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Speaker 2: was crazy too, insane.

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Speaker 1: That set up Keishawn's other touchdown the end a round.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned.

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Speaker 5: Reverse, it was butch right toss thirty eight gator z reverse.

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Speaker 1: Left the same fucking play change so we would change formationally.

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Speaker 5: They started getting all that zip zoom snug bullshit later

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Speaker 5: on that ship. I had all that shit with Grooten

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Speaker 5: punk ass.

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Speaker 1: Zip is just basically, yeah, Taylor Z he gotta come

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Speaker 1: in to block, yeah, or come half zip down because

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Speaker 1: we would do that too.

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Speaker 5: We would go butt right, We would go butt right,

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Speaker 5: zip toss thirty eight gators.

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Speaker 3: So I would come and zip down and then come

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Speaker 3: back around.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was groodening like as a coach. Let's get through this.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, before the half, we get up seventeen to nothing.

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Speaker 2: Here there's a little scuffle, a little scuffle before the

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Speaker 2: Have you like to see that and play a football?

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Speaker 2: Jumbo Elliott and old Kevin Hardy they were getting into it.

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Speaker 4: Jumbo was big.

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Speaker 5: He was what type office in lineman you played with.

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Speaker 5: But he might have been one of the big He

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Speaker 5: could walk through the door man. He was one of

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Speaker 5: them type of.

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Speaker 3: Dudes on time name too so big. Yeah, we had

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Speaker 3: we had a couple.

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Speaker 1: We didn't we I had one really big who Trent, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trent Brown.

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Speaker 5: Trent Brown was a large human. I think he was

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Speaker 5: like Jumbo was a large human. But up he had

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Speaker 5: the little you know how we used to we had

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Speaker 3: That's what he had as a line. And he had

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Speaker 3: the V.

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Speaker 1: That's like crazy. We had a Nate Soldier yeah, I know.

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Speaker 1: Nate was really like he he was three hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifteen pounds of a six pack.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is how Jumbo was, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: So there's just like Jumbo was cool too, bone man,

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Speaker 5: Jumbo was cool. That was one of my coolest offensive

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Speaker 5: line homies I had. Yes, it's so funny man. I

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Speaker 5: before you mentioned the halftime, Before the half, Jimmy Smith scored.

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Speaker 3: I believe that's fifty two yard bomb six seconds right

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Speaker 3: as the half was I was supposed to go in

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Speaker 3: the game. Oh, in is safety to be the safety?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 5: Barcels and Belichick got into it, and it was the

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Speaker 5: craziest shit we ever ever seen on the sideline between

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Speaker 5: two coaches ever. Because Belichick didn't want to put me in,

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Speaker 5: Parceles wanted to put me in. Belichick said no, and

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Speaker 5: they went right up the rail bomb touchdown them.

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Speaker 1: Parcels just lit his ask, Oh my gosh, how was

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Speaker 1: that relationship? At that time?

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Speaker 5: I thought it was fine, And it's great now they

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Speaker 5: like now, But at that time.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was fine. I didn't. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 5: He came back the next year, but that thing, my eyeballs,

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Speaker 5: I was like, because I'm standing there ready to go in. Man,

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Speaker 5: you know the situation, you know, And he's like no,

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Speaker 5: And Parcells told him. At this time, Parcells said something

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Speaker 5: to the effect of you think you know every fucking thing.

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Speaker 5: That's your fucking genius. Huh, you think you know everything.

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Speaker 5: That's why you fucking got fired from Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll that'll get it, that'll get the fumes going,

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Speaker 1: shots fired.

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Speaker 5: I was like this, oh shit, So when the situation

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Speaker 5: came up again, I went in and got the deception.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the craziest genus.

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Speaker 5: But I've seen Bill do that to the coaches before ourselves.

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Speaker 5: The type of coach that goes for neck.

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Speaker 1: He gone her throat, He's gonna go for kill shot man,

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Speaker 1: to try to light that fire in your ash shot.

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Speaker 5: I watched the I watched Bill get it. I watched

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Speaker 5: Bill get it. Charlie Weiss, what time? Because you know

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Speaker 5: how you do the cards, the cards wasn't in sync.

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Speaker 5: It was like all messed up. And at this time,

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Speaker 5: Krispy Kreme Krispy Kreme Dodas had just became a big thing,

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Speaker 5: came to the East coast of New York. So we

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Speaker 5: used to make all the younger guys, go pick.

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Speaker 1: Him up or whatever.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, pick him up, put him out at the and

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Speaker 5: Charlie would come to the players lounge and gets up

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Speaker 5: like donuts.

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Speaker 3: He had messed up the cards?

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Speaker 5: What time?

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Speaker 3: And Bill's hid?

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Speaker 5: I bet you if those these fucking cards charge Krispy

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Speaker 5: Kreme donut, you'd have got that right Jesus.

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Speaker 3: We was like, oh, ship.

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Speaker 2: Next up? Ty Lock compairs the coaching styles of Bill Parcells,

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick and Pete care What.

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Speaker 1: Was the similarities and differences between him and parcels and

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll? And and what was to you? And then

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Speaker 1: you went to the Jets and you went to the chiefs?

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Speaker 1: How was his ship?

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Speaker 3: How was that?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 6: I tell you what you know, come in and get different.

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Speaker 6: What made parcels different? Is you know, well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: start with Parcels that's drafted me. So pars Sales was

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Speaker 6: the master manipulator when it comes to the mind. And

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Speaker 6: like you like, he'll make you so pissed off psychologically,

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Speaker 6: he'll you'll.

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Speaker 4: Run to run through a wall. You want to prove

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Speaker 4: to him that.

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Speaker 1: About that?

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Speaker 4: He told me.

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Speaker 6: He told me I was gonna be the first first

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Speaker 6: Like what you're gonna be the He called me.

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Speaker 4: To the side.

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Speaker 6: He's like, listen, right now, you're working on being the

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting there.

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Speaker 1: Like in my stupid ass, you know at the time.

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Speaker 6: You know, just being me from out about, like, well,

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Speaker 6: do what you gotta do? You know, come on, whoop

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Speaker 6: all they had do what you gotta do? Stupid, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean. But that's just that's that's just

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Speaker 6: who I was, you know what I mean. And then eventually,

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Speaker 6: you know, he was like, uh man, he was the bestie,

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Speaker 6: but he always rolled me. And it was one particular

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Speaker 6: you got everybody scared of you out there, and he's

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Speaker 6: but this week, this guy's gonna kick your ass. So

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Speaker 6: he was talking about Michael Irving was going down played

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Speaker 6: just hit you know, like I said, Nias Williams the

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Speaker 6: up to Nia's trained women, but he gave He gave

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: It was like nine catches, something like like two hundred

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Speaker 6: that's what Parcels told me. He gonna kick your ass.

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Speaker 6: But guess what I'm putting you on him? You know

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Speaker 6: of the week all that stuff. But I wasn't even

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Speaker 6: I was sitting there thinking I got to prove par

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Speaker 6: Sales wrong for fucking with me. You know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: to take it out on Michael at the time, you

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Speaker 6: But Belichick, you know that's how he got the best

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Speaker 6: out of you. Belichick, He's gonna sit you down because

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Speaker 6: he was my dB coach, which I loved, by the way,

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Speaker 6: because you had to do the least amount of studying

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Speaker 6: when he's your coach, because he done did it all.

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Speaker 6: Everything that he say is going to happen is gonna happen.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be one of two things. And what

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Speaker 6: He was my dB coach. We're playing the Saints. He said, look,

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Speaker 6: do a curl. And my thing was, I didn't want

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Speaker 6: So I said, shit, scene, the formation is coming, damn.

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Speaker 6: Sure enough, he did exactly that, came in, jumped in

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Speaker 6: now when we're moving, Belichick had you in such a

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Speaker 6: we thinking like that's our boy. Man, Me and lawyer

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Speaker 6: type of he the head coach. Now I'm like, Bill

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Speaker 6: done got a new check and got brand new and shit.

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Speaker 6: But they done got brand new. It ain't the same.

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Speaker 6: But now you have to realize, and it took us

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Speaker 6: a minute that he's not our coach anymore. He's our

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Speaker 6: coach and he has to sit there and you know,

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Speaker 6: treat everything and conduct itself in a certain way. But

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Speaker 6: what he does from a game plan perspective, I've never

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Speaker 6: been with another coach or another organization that is that

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Speaker 6: prepared at all times. And he made you feel comfortable

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Speaker 6: even his adjustments. This is what we're gonna.

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Speaker 4: Do, Bam.

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Speaker 6: You just gotta be smart. In training camp, we will

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Speaker 6: see shit that we ain't seen in eight weeks. We

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Speaker 6: going back to some training camp. You got to like

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Speaker 6: what we ain't played that since training camp, but for

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Speaker 4: This is what it is.

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Speaker 6: So I think that separates a Bill from everyone else.

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Speaker 6: Ain't nobody getting coached because he'll just telling the offense

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Speaker 6: But Pete Carroll Man, the happy, gold lucky guy that

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Speaker 4: You know, he was like that. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Great name, exactly. It was. It was a totally different energy,

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Speaker 1: And that's you know, I mean, Bill's a computer where

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Speaker 3: He will take He would tell you this ship, I'll

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Speaker 3: Need to do this, this, this, and if we do that,

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Speaker 1: We'd sit there and be listening to this ship and

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Speaker 1: then you'd watch that on a Monday when you're watching film.

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Speaker 1: Everything that he said happened, and it exactly how he said.

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Speaker 4: Exactly. I'm saying he took. He took that.

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Speaker 6: He made it easier to do your job because he

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Speaker 6: want to study that film. So you basically got a

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Speaker 4: What I mean?

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Speaker 6: You can go ask him anything out of the blue.

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Speaker 6: He gonna already know what it is. I'm sitting there

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Speaker 6: like it's at a point where like, how do you

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Speaker 6: know all that you watched us? You you hear offensive

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Speaker 1: He's a of the cheat sheet, but he's an asshole

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Speaker 1: cheat sheet, But I loved him.

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Speaker 2: Next, Phil Simms on his experience playing for Coach Parcels.

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Speaker 1: You know, Parcells, that was his thing. He could connect

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Speaker 1: Phil likes to be pissed off. He plays well pissed off,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's and that's what

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Speaker 1: you know Parcells tried to do. I saw a lot

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Speaker 1: certain people. You know, it's just they do whatever it

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Speaker 3: You, pushing buttons.

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Speaker 1: He was great, Yeah, so you trade some, you trade well,

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Speaker 1: he would Bill.

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Speaker 3: Here's what Parcels would do. I watched him during the week.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: He would walk around the locker room and get a

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Speaker 7: need from you this week. You know you gotta you know,

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Speaker 7: you know, now, you got to play better. I don't

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Speaker 7: want to take your ass out, you know or what.

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Speaker 7: But he was very if you want honesty, he was honest.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's looking at every piece of the machine to

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Speaker 1: make sure I mean, it's the big blue wrecking crew,

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Speaker 1: every every piece of the guy.

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Speaker 3: But he worked everybody.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 7: It was an unbelievable thing. It's a it's a it's

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Speaker 7: the best skill I think a coach can have, absolutely

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Speaker 7: and to be able to do this to players, to

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Speaker 7: be tough on them and still what's the word, not

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Speaker 7: alienate them and all that. They just knew this is

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Speaker 7: what it is and he's doing You want honesty all pleasure.

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Speaker 7: I just want you to be honest. Do you really

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Speaker 7: do you really want them?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Bill was honest.

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Speaker 1: I saw him do this.

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Speaker 3: I hate to tell these stories.

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Speaker 7: We're in training camp and we're doing an inside run

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Speaker 7: thing and we have a guard. I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 7: his game. He goes, I'll call him Billy. Billy, I

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Speaker 7: got the plane ticket in my drawer. Don't make me

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Speaker 7: give it to you. Come on, I gotta see it.

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Speaker 7: Come on, I got the damn plane ticket in the drawer.

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Speaker 7: And I just go Wow. That was really like, that

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Speaker 7: was rough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And he would give the guy two or three days

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Speaker 7: and almost always one morning we show wear is so

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Speaker 7: and so all. They let him go, but he would

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Speaker 7: warn them if you won't pick it up. Oh no,

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Speaker 7: he never bluffed, but I heard him do that quite

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Speaker 7: a few times. But he was warning the guy, you

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Speaker 7: know that if you don't practice better, then it's just

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Speaker 3: Here the plane in the drawer. Yeah, I got them.

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Speaker 3: I mean my ex girlfriend did the same thing to me.

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Speaker 2: Now we got Keishawn Johnson on Bill Parcells's unique leadership style.

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Speaker 1: Parcels comes in day one. Is it just completely different?

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Speaker 5: Oh my god. He fired the dude at the front gate.

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Speaker 5: That was a security guard named Harry. Harry had been

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Speaker 5: like the security guard for like however many years older.

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Speaker 5: Guy Bill got rid of him immediately. And so one

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Speaker 5: started for the Jet Tunnel noo four or five years

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Speaker 3: Like really good.

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Speaker 5: He told him if he wasn't at off season conditioning,

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Speaker 5: he was gonna get rid of him. Dude didn't come

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Speaker 5: off season condition never played again in the National Football League.

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Speaker 5: Cutting never played again the National Football League. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: those coaches he started, he started the OTAs it used

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Speaker 5: to be. Getting you had to get forty days over

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Speaker 3: You had to get forty days in.

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Speaker 5: And it was like you go a week, maybe two weeks,

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Speaker 5: when he came, obviously I was one of the targets

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Speaker 5: he called my agent, du do this that. And so

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Speaker 5: I'm like, well, it's paying on the fucking with all

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Speaker 5: that shit, man, you know. And so now my agent go, well,

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Speaker 5: he said, if you don't come, da da da, I said, man,

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Speaker 5: what shit man. I want to be at home my family.

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Speaker 5: I can do the same thing here. He goes, You

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Speaker 5: tell him, it's how he talks. He goes, you tell him,

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Speaker 5: if he's not here on this such and such date,

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Speaker 5: it'd be the worst mistake he ever made.

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Speaker 4: So I go.

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Speaker 5: I go, right, So, now at this point, I'm probably

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Speaker 5: a little overweight. You know, I'm probably a little overweight,

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Speaker 5: He goes, I sit down in his room.

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Speaker 4: I go in there.

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Speaker 5: I'm in his room. He's got a dark room. He's

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Speaker 5: got one little light on. Like my feel like like

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Speaker 5: you just said. He's sitting there and we're talking. He goes,

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Speaker 5: how much did you weigh? I said, shit, I think

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Speaker 5: I want. I said, Okay, cool, no problem. So now

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Speaker 5: looking crazy to him. I'm fucking you know. So now

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Speaker 5: he asked me to do. You see what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: he asked me to do something for him. I did

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Speaker 5: it like that. And now you could say, you couldn't

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Speaker 3: You gonna You're gonna catch hell. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: And so that's how I changed like that, And he's

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Speaker 5: with him in ninety seven, although I'm on a rookie contract,

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Speaker 5: he tried to rip my contract up. But uh, but

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Speaker 5: the management council with the NFL wouldn't allow it.

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Speaker 1: They we did the deal, we did.

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Speaker 5: He was getting ready to make me at that time

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Speaker 5: That's how our trust and our loyalty became a bomb

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Speaker 5: like it is now.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, gained parcels trust through cutting your weight. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then from that day on when because you did it.

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Speaker 5: Even to this day, I just talked to another day.

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Speaker 5: He goes, what's the number? I said, shit, man, I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I'm probably to thirty five or something. You know,

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Speaker 5: I just slipping down a little baby. He goes, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you look good, but I don't know if you're two

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Speaker 5: thirty five, look like you got walnuts in your cheeks.

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Speaker 5: I was like, no, I'm good. I'm like I'm good, coach,

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Speaker 5: I really, you know. He said, well, you're doing good, son.

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Speaker 5: You just keep doing what you're doing. Man, I'm proud

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Speaker 5: of you because that's my guy. Yeah, that's kind of

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Speaker 5: you know when I say it all the time. You know,

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Speaker 5: when you're around a guy for a long time, that

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Speaker 5: changes you. Like I was around Belichick. It becomes like

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Speaker 5: a fatherly figure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Thanks for listening. Remember to tune in every

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