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So to my guests, how are you going? 40 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: I am good, Thanks for having me. Ev and A. 41 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I know I'm excited to like we was 42 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: catching up before we started the the interview. How has 43 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: the Panini Press been treating you? Um, it's been okay, 44 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I guess, well before it again, can you tell the 45 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: listeners a little bit about yourself. Yeah, So, as you've 46 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: already mentioned, my attended Tennessee State University for undergrad Um. 47 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: I studied chemistry there, and um, I went on girls 48 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: Yeah crazy right and thing if. I hated science in 49 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: high school and then I ended up being a chemistry major. 50 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: Just crazy, Um, But my strong points were always math 51 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: and science. This might be not really caring for science. 52 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: I was strong in the subject. So, um, I study 53 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: chemistry at Tennessee State, got my bachelor's in chemistry, and 54 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: then I went on to pharmacy school um in my 55 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: home state, and now I'm a practicing pharmacy I'm actually 56 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: a pharmacy supervisor for a hospital here. Um. I've been 57 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: in this role for a little over six months, but 58 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: I've been a pharmacist for a little over four years. 59 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: You're nice, nice, So did you think the pandemic was 60 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: going to less long? Absolutely? Not so short story. Um, obviously, 61 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people can relate. But I 62 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: had a really really um big trip planned in April 63 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: and It's something that I had been planning for for 64 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: a long time. It was like the furthest that I 65 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: was gonna travel. I was supposed to be going to 66 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: South Africa with a group of people, and it was 67 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: scheduled for the first or second week in April UM. 68 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: And so obviously we heard about coronavirus I think roughly 69 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: around January February, but it hadn't hit the US, or 70 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: at least it hadn't hit us hard UM yet. And 71 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: then of course by March, you know, we were in 72 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: full moo like lockdown in certain states UM, and then 73 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: there was this whole question on whether or not we're 74 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna be able to travel. I know, there were people 75 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: that were overseas and there was a question on whether 76 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: or not they were going to be able to get back, 77 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: and ultimately South Africa UM closed their borders to us. 78 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: But like I still intended on going. So like when 79 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: the shut down happened in March, I'm like, okay, well 80 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: we'll give them thirty days. I can figure this out 81 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: so I can go on my trip. Here we are 82 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: almost a year later, and I mean it's still kind 83 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: of up in the air on how long we're going 84 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: to be dealing with the pandemic. So I have a 85 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: feeling we're gonna be in this pandemic for the rest 86 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, Like I have that conversation UM 87 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: with you know, relatives and colleagues all the time, and 88 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: friends all the time. Like it's crazy. Less than a 89 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: year ago, I was thinking like, oh, you know, when 90 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: they figure things out so we can get back to normal. 91 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: But I'm like, this is the new normal, you know 92 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't think if I don't think 93 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: we'll ever have a quote unquote solution to the problem 94 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: that is coronavirus. I think we'll learn how to better 95 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: live through it. And then of course, you know, not 96 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: with the vaccine, you know, different ways to permit it 97 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: and live cautiously. Um, I don't think it'll ever go away, 98 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: And I think this is new normal. I can't see 99 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: myself ever really shacking anybody's hand anymore, you know what 100 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: I mean. So, did you have COVID nineteen. No, So 101 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: I've never tested positive for COVID nineteen. I am like, 102 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure a number of people where I feel like 103 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: I may have had it, but I didn't have any symptoms, 104 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, strong enough I wasn't exposed to anybody that 105 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: would lead me to need to go get tested. Um, 106 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: I have gotten tested just because I did do a 107 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: little bit of traveling, so just for my own comfort 108 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: and of course to protect those that I'm around at 109 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: work and family. UM, I've gotten tested and I've yet 110 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: to test positive. Who's to say, like there was a 111 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: time like in the spring where I thought I had coronavirus, 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: and of course the tests there weren't as many tests 113 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: then and so they weren't testing everybody like you literally 114 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: had to be near death to get tested. But I've 115 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: never actually tested positive. And I mean, of course I'm 116 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: still healthy, by the grace of God. So no, to 117 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: my knowledge, I have not had COVID nineteen. That was 118 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: so funny as you said that, because I've sunk to 119 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: a guest from a different episode and before it became 120 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: serious in the US by January, February and December. What 121 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: was that I was sick as a dog. And I 122 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: was not always get sick once a year, because I 123 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: would hardly ever get six for six. But at one 124 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: time I do get sick. I'm sick, but that's sick. 125 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Was a different type of sick. Yea, the same for 126 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: me in November of nineteen and I literally had to 127 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: leave work in the middle of the day because, like 128 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: in sweats, my heart was racing. I was feeling like, 129 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, nauseous, like out of like literally out of nowhere. 130 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: By the time I made it an urgent care, I 131 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: was literally throwing up all over their office. Um. Not necessarily, 132 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: I guess that's not a symptom of COVID nineteen, but 133 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: all my other symptoms were um and They're like, oh, 134 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: you have the flu. We you know, we're certain you 135 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: have the flu. Will get your swap for the flu. 136 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there and you know, they're like trying 137 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: to figure out what's going wrong with me and my 138 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: tests for the flu came back negative or they're just like, 139 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: we just think it's just a virus. And they literally 140 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: had no answer for me. And I was piss somebody. 141 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm paying you guys, afford it all copy what's wrong? 142 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, and I'm like, who's the same, you know 143 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: what I mean? So your first time I ever ever 144 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: seen the best thing? Oh no, no, So I work 145 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: in the healthcare field. Um, for us, the at work, technically, 146 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: the flu shot is required, um, unless you have some 147 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: sort of excuse, So whether it's medical or religious excuse, 148 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: you have to submit that documentation if you choose not 149 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: to take the flu shot. Just you know historically, UM, 150 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: you're required to wear a mask throughout the entire flu season. 151 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: So I get the flu shot every year. I'm very 152 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: much so pro vaccination. UM. And then like for pharmacy school, 153 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: we were required to be up to date on all 154 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: of our vaccinations. UM My mom, whatever the doctor told 155 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: her I needed, she never really you know, went again. 156 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: So I got all of my childhood UM vaccinations, all 157 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: of the series that are recommended it. So I am 158 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: pretty up to date all my vaccinations. I actually got 159 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: a vaccine in March, I want to say, in preparation 160 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: for my trip to South Africa. UM, so yeah, I'm 161 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: vaccinated up. If you also get a shot before you 162 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: go to the South Africa. Go to Africa yep. So 163 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: depending on what part of Africa you're going to, there's 164 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: different vaccines that are recommended. So I was due for 165 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: a booster or my technic shot, which is recommended if 166 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: you're going to South Africa. UM, just generally yep, yep. 167 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,719 Speaker 1: So whenever you're vaccinated. UM. This will be a kind 168 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: of technical. So essentially, you receive a vaccine so that 169 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: your body can respond and produce anybody's to fight off 170 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: the real virus, and so UM in those vaccines come 171 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: in different forms, some are live, some are inactivated. And 172 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: then you have the unique situation with COVID nineteen where 173 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: it's an m R and a vaccine which is a 174 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: little different, but nonetheless all of them are designed to 175 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: UM promote immune response. So your body produces these antibody 176 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: so that when your body comes into contact with the 177 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: real virus, it'll have antibodies that are necessary to fight 178 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: it off. And so certain after studies, and of course 179 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: it's like years of studies, UM, they kind of determine 180 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: what level of antibody your body needs to be responsive 181 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: to the virus. So there are some diseases and ultimately 182 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: vaccines that require a booster after so many years, because 183 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: you're there, theoretically the level of antibodies that you have 184 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: is no longer therapeutic um to amount of response needed 185 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: to fight off whatever said disease. So UM with tetanus, 186 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: you get your childhood series. I can't remember what ages. 187 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: You get the initial vaccines at so many older than 188 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: one UM, but probably less than maybe school age, so 189 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: probably less than four. And then it is technically required 190 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: that you get a booster every ten years. And again 191 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: that was determined after years of studies to determine most 192 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: people after ten years, Yeah, they may still have some antibodies, 193 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: but based on the tighters that they draw to kind 194 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: of determine that UM, they ultimately determined that you need 195 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: a booster the amount you know, to get your body 196 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: you're in a body level back to the mount that 197 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: would actually UM respond appropriately if you were introduced to 198 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: said disease for example of technics and so for me 199 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: UM and a lot of states, they have a registry 200 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: where you can pull up all of the information, so 201 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: all of your childhood vaccines, everything that you received UM 202 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: technically your doctor's office or if you get these vaccines 203 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: at a pharmacy. They're supposed to update that information into 204 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: that database. And so when I went to go see 205 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: an infectious disease specialists about what vaccines I needed to 206 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: go to South Africa, she was able to pull that 207 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: information up and determined that I was due for my 208 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: ten year booster for techness and so I got it 209 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: last year. Technically I won't need it again for another 210 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: ten years unless this is a caveat. Um. The other 211 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: time that you need a booster, they recommend, um, anytime 212 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: someone is pregnant and like said family is expected to 213 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: be around children under the age of one, they also 214 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: recommend everyone in that family get a booster too. Yep, So, um, 215 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: you definitely need a booster for tetanus. Um. I'm trying 216 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: to think of another vaccine that's a routine vaccine that 217 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: you need a booster four years later. Um. There are 218 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: a number of vaccines that you get series So um, yeah, 219 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: because you know, we get most of them. And that's 220 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: the thing. There's, you know, and I respect everyone's decision 221 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: to do what they feel is best for their own health. Um, 222 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: but you have a lot of people that are anti 223 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: vaccine vaccinations, and UM. The crazy thing is and there 224 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: they feel that way more specifically towards whether not they 225 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with their children in vaccines. But like if 226 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: they were to go back and look at the database, 227 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: their chances are, especially if they're our age, they probably 228 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: got all of the recommended vaccines when they were kids. 229 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: And so I mean, aside from the flu shot, you 230 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: haven't had a need to become vaccinated because you're likely 231 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: already fully vaccinate. UM. And again, the only vaccine that 232 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: I can think of off the top of my head 233 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: that requires a tend your booster technically is the technic shot. 234 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: So when you told your friends a family that you 235 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: was getting the vaccine, what would the reaction? Well, so 236 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: I'll be transparent. So I work in pharmacy obviously UM 237 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: and the world in general, with everything that's going on 238 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: with the pandemic, we've been watching all the talk about 239 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: the vaccine. I think I probably was introduced to some 240 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: more UM information a little bit sooner than other individuals, 241 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: just like the late person, because of the field that 242 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: I work in, and obviously I have a background in 243 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: the subject, and so I know the process that it 244 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: takes to develop a drug or a vaccine, and I 245 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: know how long that process usually takes. UM. I'm very 246 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: much so pro science and pro vaccination, but I was 247 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: definitely hesitant. I had some reservations about getting this vaccine because, um, 248 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: although there is data to support that it's effective, you know, 249 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: and this is early on, They're like, oh, yeah, we 250 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: might potentially have something here. I know, how long it 251 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: takes to get safety data. And so whenever you are 252 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: developing a drug or vaccine, it goes through different phases. 253 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: One they kind of go through like the theoretical phase 254 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: where they're like literally just on the drawing board UM, 255 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: drawing molecules theoretically just based on the design of the 256 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: virus UM in this case, UM, these are the different 257 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: molecules that could potentially, you know, combat the virus and 258 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: this is why we think so so it's kind of 259 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: like the brain storm of phase UM. And then they 260 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: start doing testing. Usually that testing this like animal testing 261 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: UM or trying to think another way, they do testing 262 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: before they introduce it to humans. But then that it 263 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: goes through you know, usually years almost of just you know, 264 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: animal testing. And so with the animal testing they're checking 265 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: the efficacy to see, Okay, this is what we thought 266 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: will work. Let's actually put it to to work and 267 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: see if it actually does what we think that it's 268 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: going to do. Once they start to see that it 269 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: does what they think that it's going to do, then 270 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: they move on to testing it in people. And it's 271 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: usually a smaller population to people, usually volunteers that like 272 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: just want extra cash or you know, are just gone 273 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: whole um supportive of science. And once they start testing 274 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: in in people, they're testing one to see that it's 275 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: effective and to their testing safety. So with safety, they're 276 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: testing to see if they're gonna be any side effects 277 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: to it, short term and long term. And so obviously 278 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: short term you should see right away, like if they 279 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: give someone a shot and all of a sudden this 280 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: person breaks out and high. What we know and say 281 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: they do it in a hundred people and out of 282 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: a hundred people, ten of those people break out in highs. 283 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: When we know that this is a common side effect 284 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: of this potential drug. So now we need to assess 285 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: whether or not the risk of this side effect is 286 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: greater than the benefit of it actually working to do 287 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: whatever we needed to do. But then the long term 288 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: side effects are the things that um, after you receive 289 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: this drug or you received this vaccine, um months later, 290 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: years later, decades later, what what potential side effects could 291 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: you see in the individuals that received this said drug 292 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: or this vacca Exactly, there's no way. So like I 293 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: just me being a science person, I've I've read the studies, 294 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: and I am confident in the efficacy, very confident in 295 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: the efficacy on whether or not this vaccine actually works 296 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: or these vaccines I should say, actually work. Um, but 297 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: with safety. I'm confident in the short term safety data, 298 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: right because they've been doing this testing longer than what 299 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: people actually um. No, so I think people think they 300 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: started doing the research and development of this these vaccines 301 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: like in the summer or maybe in the spring and 302 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: all actuality, they started developing these vaccines before we even 303 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: knew about coronavirus in response to the stars UM epidemic 304 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: that was seen a couple of years ago. And so um, 305 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: it's not brand new, like this is something that's kind 306 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: of been in the works, but of course they have 307 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: to put a rush on the given the pandemic that 308 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: we're dealing with now with COVID nineteen and so UM 309 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: confident in efficacy, relatively confident in the short term side effects, 310 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: but there's no way for us to know the long 311 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: term side effects. And you know, me, being a young 312 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: single woman with you know, aspirations to one day be 313 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: a mother, my biggest concern is, you know, you see 314 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: what a lot of drugs I shouldn't say a lot, 315 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: but there are a number of drugs that have arradagenic risk. 316 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: So that means if you take them, there's a risk 317 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: of like let's say you become pregnant while taking them, 318 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: or you plan on becoming pregnant soon and you're taking 319 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: that said medication. UM, there's a risk for developmental issues 320 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: with a fetus if you take them. But it takes 321 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: years of data to know that. I will say, you 322 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: don't typically see that with vaccines. You do see that 323 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: often with meds, and it's required by the FDA. If 324 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: that is seen that it's labeled that way so that 325 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: patients UM are aware and they're able to kind of 326 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: assess for themselves with their providers whether or not it's 327 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: worth the risk compared to the benefit. UM. So just 328 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: you know me, just I mean, I'm at the age 329 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm thirty two, so like I'm looking at my watch 330 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: every day, like thirty five is around the court. I'm 331 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to start freezing my air. So I was 332 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: I was very hesitant because like I don't you know, 333 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: just me being kind of ignorant, I'm like, well, we 334 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: don't know the long term effects, like that data won't 335 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: be available until health fifteen, and I don't want to 336 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: get the vaccine to have midget babies. But it's me, 337 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: and this is midget babies. You're not supposed to anyone. 338 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: Uh but and this is just me being transparent. But 339 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. Like when I seen that 340 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: it was a possibility that these vaccines were gonna get 341 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: approved and get approved soon, I hadn't even taken the 342 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: time out to read the studies myself, you know what 343 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I didn't know much. I just heard 344 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: that they were effective. I didn't know the actual percentages. 345 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: I didn't read the details. I didn't know anything about 346 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: the population um of those that participated in the study. UM, 347 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know any of that information. So all I 348 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: knew was the risk that we don't know right, which 349 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: is the long term effects. And I knew nothing about 350 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: the business. So they start rolling it out of my job, 351 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: and it it became available for UM staff. And I 352 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: work in the pharmacy and we are pretty much man 353 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: jink the vaccination. And so my boss's boss, who was 354 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: the director of pharmacy, like she's taking full lead on 355 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: this as a project, and so every day she will 356 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: come in and ask different staff members, like, you know, 357 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: there's a spot availability you want to go get vaccinated. 358 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: And you know a lot of my people were willing 359 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: like yes, please, like you know, almost begging to go 360 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: get vaccinated. And I'm like, you aren't. You don't have 361 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: any reservations, and like some people would admit to some 362 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: but then some people were like, but I actually read 363 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: the study. Uh. And so I'm like, okay, I don't 364 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: want to be an ignorant person. I actually, like in 365 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: my own friend group, I always say like, okay, I 366 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: respect your decision, but make sure you make an informed decision. 367 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: And I really stand on that. And so I felt 368 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: myself in that instance, you know, making the decision without 369 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: being informed. And so I took the time to read 370 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: through the study. UM Proviser, which is UM, the manufacturer 371 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: that we have at my job. There's two main factors 372 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: that were recently a proof so it's maderna advisor. And 373 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: I was just looking at the data and I started 374 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: to do more research on what's going on with COVID 375 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: nineteen and I have to take a step back and 376 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: think about, like, okay, what is my biggest concern. And 377 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: my biggest concern was long term effects, specifically as it 378 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: relates to potentially becoming pregnant. But if you read the 379 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: information on COVID nineteen itself, we don't know the long 380 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: term effects of COVID nineteen. So like they talk about 381 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: these young twenty thirty four year old individuals who contracted 382 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: the virus and now they have like blood clotting issues, 383 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: and they've had strokes and they you know, they've had 384 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: like all of these detrimental events happened as a result 385 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: of getting the vaccine, and we don't know. So even 386 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: those who got the not getting in the vaccines already 387 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: getting the virus itself, and even those who have been asymptomatic, 388 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: we don't know what that is going to mess them 389 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: fifteen years from now. And I used this example with 390 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: my friends. So HPV it stands for human human Paplona 391 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: papalon virus. I'm probably mispronouncing that, but HPV is usually 392 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: UM contracted sexually, so it's kind of like STD, but 393 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: like not your typical STDs that you know all the 394 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: time UM, and it's something that's been around for a 395 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: very long time. It's technically incurable right now, but there 396 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: is a vaccine for it and the long term effects 397 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: of having HPV, and most women should know this by now. 398 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: If you do your every three year paps mers cervical cancer. 399 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: That's what they're checking for when you're getting your paps. 400 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: Mere So you having contracted HPV, say as a younger 401 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: dog or as a teenager, puts you at a higher 402 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: risk just based on what the data shows of contracting 403 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: or developing cervical cancer years from now. Now does that 404 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: mean that you're guaranteed to die of cervical cancer. No, 405 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: But does it increase your risk of having cervical cancer? Absolutely? 406 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: And that's the virus itself. So when you talk about 407 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: risk versus benefits, is it more risky of me catching 408 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: HPV and possibly getting cervical cancer, which is very very 409 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: hard to combat, versus me getting a vaccine that has 410 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: proven to prevent me contracting HPV and potentially having some 411 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: outside effects to that set vaccine. It's kind of the 412 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: same situation. Or that's how I approached the COVID ninth 413 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: um the COVID vaccine versus contracting COVID ninetine itself. Um. No, 414 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't know the long term effects of vaccines, but 415 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: I do know how vaccines are developed, and I do 416 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: know how they work in the body. And just based 417 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: on that information, I know that the risk of a 418 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: long term effect from a vaccine is relatively low, but 419 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: obviously we don't know for sure, and it's gonna take 420 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: years for us to know, um, But we do know 421 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: that this virus is something that we've never seen before, 422 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: and the short term effects are so all over the 423 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: place and could be so detrimental and are having lasting 424 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: effects on people months after contracting the virus. That we 425 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: also don't know the long term effects of this virus, 426 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: And so for me, it was definitely risk versus benefit, 427 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: and I thought me personally, I felt it was more 428 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: beneficial for me to protect myself from getting the virus ultimately, 429 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: and who can receive the vaccine like everybody can receive 430 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the vaccine itself for like kids right now right um. 431 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: So with fightser Um, they are currently doing testing in individuals. 432 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: I get this mix up. So for Fighter I think 433 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: it's approved for seventeen and up and then maybe Maderna 434 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: is currently doing testing to get it approved for ages 435 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: twelving up um, but currently it's only approved for the 436 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: lowest age seventeen. But I think in the soon come 437 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: we'll probably see it approved for you know, a little 438 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: younger like teenage adolescent AGES. Um, but I might have 439 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: which manufactor I mentioned mixed up. It's either Fighter or Maderna. 440 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: One of them is currently testing for AGES. Quote. Now, 441 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: can you walk us through you're receiving the first shot? YEP. 442 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: So UM it literally I had made a decision. Let's 443 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: say it was a tool. It was a Tuesday. I 444 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, Okay, when offered the opportunity 445 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: to get the vaccine again, I'm gonna take it. After 446 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: doing my research. Wednesday morning, our director of pharmacy came 447 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: in and was like, I want to go get your shot. 448 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, uh yeah, I guess so. Um. And 449 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: so I went down there. I was super, super nervous 450 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: and um, I had to check in like there's a 451 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: whole process. Everything has to be throwing and documented. Um. 452 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: I got the vaccine. I will say I am not 453 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: good with needles, even though I used to minister vaccines. UM, 454 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: usually shots I do okay with. I hate getting my 455 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: blood drawn because the needle is usually thicker. Um. I 456 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: got the shot and literally did not feel it going 457 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: any whatsoever. The needle was so small that you barely 458 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: feel it in terms of just like pain. We're an administration. 459 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: This is the best vaccine I've ever received, and I'm 460 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: not getting paid by fires with Normaderna, so like I'm 461 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: not reflexing. Like it's literally like you don't feel it all. 462 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: And it is actually required by both manufacturers after you 463 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: receive the vaccine that you sit in your monitor for 464 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. So I got it quick, didn't even feel it, 465 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: and then I sat down, um, and I you know, 466 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: I was monitored for fifteen minutes. I didn't have any 467 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: side effects, and I went on about my day. Um, 468 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: I want to say by the next morning, so less 469 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: than twenty four hours later, let's like eighteen hours later, 470 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: my arm was incredibly sore. UM with the tetanic shot. Usually, 471 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: like when I used to minister vaccines, I will always 472 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: tell patients, you know, if they didn't know which arm 473 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: to get it in, I always say, get it in 474 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: your dominant arm because this one tends to be painful 475 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: and usually feel it the next day. So get in 476 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: your dominant arm because that's the arm that you're gonna 477 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: move more and that's gonna help work out that pain quicker. UM. 478 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: And so the technics shot can be painful usually by 479 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: the next day. This the COVID vaccine. At least my 480 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: experience with the Fightser manufacturer, it was very painful the 481 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: next day, like it felt like I was lifting heavy 482 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: weights in that one arm for days UM, I could 483 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: barely lift it. So UM paying at the injection site 484 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: UM about eighteen hours later and that lasted pretty much 485 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: that entire next day, UM, and then that went away 486 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: and that was it. I didn't experience any other side 487 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: effects whatsoever before you received the second shot. So with 488 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: Fightser is UM mandatory that you received the second doors 489 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: within seventeen to twenty four days. You at least at 490 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: my job is scheduled right exactly on day one UM. 491 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: But for me, I had actually had a trip planned 492 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: UM it would have been twenty three days after I 493 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: received the vaccine. And of course, me being who I am, 494 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: I had done a lot of research and I saw 495 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: that a number of people received UM did experience a 496 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: lot of side effects after the second DOS, and so 497 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: I didn't want to feel like that while traveling. So 498 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: I had actually got my rescheduled and received it twenty 499 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: days after receiving the first dough, so I could have 500 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: at least three days to recover before I left with 501 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: the second do so and I'm so happy because I 502 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: know it. Originally heave me a little nervous because he 503 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: was like just late for after the second shot because 504 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: since it's gonna be a little bit worse, and I'm like, 505 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: what you mean, but and now what I happened, and 506 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: that's what I heard, and like, you know, just because 507 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: knowing like how my old my symptoms were with the 508 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: first self, like all I had was like, you know, 509 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: paying at the injections site. Um, I was thinking, like 510 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: I'm not going to experience all of the you know, 511 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: the fevers and shields and the bus legs everything. I'm like, 512 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: people are exaggerating. There's no way they're experiencing all of 513 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: this from a vaccine. So day twenty, UM, I got 514 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: those two and UM I got it like mid day. 515 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: It was like well noon, um, almost to the minute, 516 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: and um it has snowed here where I lived that day. 517 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: So I got the shot. Um by I leave every 518 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: day at four. So by the time I left, I 519 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: started to feel pain in my arm. And that was 520 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: different from the first shot because the first shot I 521 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: didn't feel it until the next day. So about eighteen 522 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: hours later. UM. The second dose, I felt it about 523 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: four hours later, UM, and it was it was painful, 524 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: like I still move my arm. It wasn't as painful 525 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: as it felt the next day with the first dose, 526 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: but I definitely started to feel it, um a lot sooner. UM. 527 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: So it had snowed. I came home, UM, and I 528 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: had to shovel the snow. And I have a pretty 529 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: long driveway, so you know, I was doing that and 530 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: I started to feel really fatigued. But I didn't know 531 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: if it was from you know, doing the snow, or 532 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: if it was from the shot. It was really kind 533 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: of hard for me to say for certain um. And 534 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: so I finished up doing the snow, I went to 535 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: go grab something to eat, and then by the time 536 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: I got home, I was like, I am exhausted. It 537 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: was probably only like a thirty nine o'clock and usually 538 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't start winding down until about ten thirty. But 539 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: like I felt like I need to go to bed, 540 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: and I need to go to bed now so extremely um. 541 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: And so I went to sleep, and my arm is 542 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: getting you know, increasingly more painful. UM. I went to 543 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: sleep the next morning, Like I remember my alarm clock 544 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: going up, going off, and me waking up, and I'm like, 545 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm supposed to get up right now. 546 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 1: I would like literally like sat up and looked at 547 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: my alarm. I'm like, I at least at minimum need 548 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: at another ten hours of sleep. Like I was so 549 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: tired and so my arm I could barely even move 550 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: it like I could like I needed to get in 551 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 1: the shower. I could barely take off my show that 552 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: I had slept there because my arm was so painful 553 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: and I was just so groggy. I was so so tired. Um. 554 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: I was a trooper though, and I went to work 555 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: and out I was kind of like explaining into my colleague, 556 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: I have a office made that I share a space 557 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: with that like I'm useless today, Like and you'll hear 558 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: this from a number of people that report side effects 559 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: with the second DOS, but like I just had like 560 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: this foggy brain, like some trade to save my life. 561 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: I was extremely tired. Like all I wanted to do, 562 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: like if I could have it my way is just 563 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: put my head down on my desk and like literally 564 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: take a five hour nap um And that was my 565 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: day the most of the most of the day. The 566 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: following day at work, just extremely tired, very difficult for 567 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: me to concentrate by the end of the day. So 568 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: like the second half of my work day the next day, 569 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: I started to feel very stiff. So I wasn't say 570 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 1: along like muscle aches, but like I was just feeling 571 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable, very very stiff, extremely tired. Um, I just 572 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: wasn't feeling like myself. Um, so I definitely was like 573 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: counting down the clocks, like waiting to get off the 574 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: work so I can go home. By the time I 575 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: got home, so this is maybe about at least eighteen 576 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: hours after I received the seconds, I felt like ship 577 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: like I like literally I feel like I just so 578 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: we could so my job, just because the instance of 579 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: these side effects are so high. With the second dose, 580 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: they do offer you at least two days to leave, 581 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: but I had already had this trip land. I was 582 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: already like taking off of work and just me, I 583 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: think I'm a gangster. I just feel like ge I 584 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: can go to work. I can handle um, you know 585 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: behind sight like I definitely would have in a number 586 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: of my colleagues did legitimately had to say home because 587 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, they were just out of it and I 588 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: will say some of my colleagues, they got it. My 589 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: my boss she got her second OCE and she didn't 590 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: feel anything, literally nothing like barely felt any pain in 591 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: her arm. Um. So it really, I mean, everyone responds differently, 592 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: and there's really it doesn't appear to be any rhyme 593 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: or reason to like how people respond, like why some 594 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: people respond more severely to the second those versus other people. 595 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: But like when I tell you, like people were asking 596 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: me like, how do you feel? How do you feel? 597 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm just a little tired, but I'm good. 598 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm good eighteen hours in and I'm just like, look, 599 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: I felt like I got into a mother like literally 600 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: like I felt like I got hit by a bus, 601 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: like full own body aches. Um, I had like a 602 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: mouth fever, um, the fatigue just continue to carry on, headache, um, 603 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: chills literally every side of the list I feel like 604 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: I had. My arm was so painful I literally could 605 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: not move it. I was pretty much bad bound from 606 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: the time that I got home until I felt it lead. Um. 607 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: And so this is now about I'm thirty six hours 608 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: later that I'm feeling this way. Um. So I went 609 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,919 Speaker 1: to bed early that night. I probably was knocked out 610 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: by like eight thirty nine, slept really well throughout the night, 611 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: I didn't wake up, and then when I woke up 612 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: the next day, I literally felt like nothing ever happened. 613 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: By forty eight hours later, I felt like nothing ever happened, 614 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 1: Like I didn't feel any pain in my arm. All 615 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: of the symptoms that I was experienced, and literally the 616 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: night before all of them subsided. I didn't feel anything. 617 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: How didn't know if they were injected with the UM. 618 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: But the vaccine UM, well, I have confidence in that 619 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: just because like we literally, uh distribute the vaccine like 620 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: it comes from and we're the ones drawing it up. 621 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: So I just have faith in my staff that I'm 622 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: actually receiving the vaccine. I guess, like I don't. I 623 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: can't say for certain that what we received from the 624 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: manufacturers the vaccine, but I will say this, the side 625 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: of that I experience with that second dose are verbatim 626 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: what is listed as side effects to the vaccine. So 627 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: it's like, receive the vaccine. I don't know what the 628 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: hell I received, but it wasn't water and it wasn't 629 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: sailine because I responded to something andcine. Yeah, So UM. 630 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: I can say exactly verbatim like everything that's in it UM, 631 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: but you can't pass up online. It is literally just 632 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: m RNA, which is a molecule, and it's it's kind 633 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: of complimented, complicated, but it's literally just a molecule that 634 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: all of our bodies have. But this molecule specifically, it's 635 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: like a messenger molecule that kind of tells the rest 636 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: of yourselves what they need to do in order for 637 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: yourself to kind of function, So it kind of transcribes 638 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: messages to different parts of your salves, and like your 639 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: sales responds based on that information that's that's provided. So 640 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: it's literally just m RNA, and then in UM like 641 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: a couple of other like preservatives and like proteins, Like 642 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 1: there are way more additives and other vaccines that people 643 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: receive routinely and probably got as a kid than there 644 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: are with the COVID vaccine, and all theation is available, 645 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: so like if anyone wants to check to see what's 646 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: exactly included in the vaccine, that information is available on 647 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: both manufacturers websites. Hell, I'm sure you can just gluculating 648 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: the information. Is there a time pair like when the 649 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: vaccine will always be in your body or does it 650 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: wear us off over time? So that's one thing that 651 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: they can't say yet. And so obviously the vaccine was 652 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: rushed and there's a reason behind that. And like, this 653 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: isn't the first time that you get got this expedited 654 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: approval for the vaccine UM. This has happened with medications too, 655 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: And they do that when they determine that it's effective 656 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: and what it's used to treat or combat UM puts 657 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: people at at a greater risk of death or adverse 658 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: events UM. So it's kind of like an ethical decision 659 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,280 Speaker 1: that the FBA makes, like do we do we withhold 660 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: this and continue to extend, you know, extend out this 661 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: testing process when we know that this competition to save lives? Like, 662 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: do do we extend this just so we can say 663 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: for certain that these are the long term effects and 664 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: people die when we know that this could have prevented 665 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: their death, or do we rush this approval so that 666 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: we can potentially save lives? So you see that with 667 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: medications all the time, medications for you know, cancer, a 668 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: lot of chemotherapy gets approved you know, expeditious lee because 669 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: they know that it could potentially prolong, you know, the 670 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: life expectancy for some of the patients and heart beds, 671 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: et cetera. So they got this expedited approval for the vaccine, 672 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: UM for that reason. But we won't know. So when 673 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: I talked about the teching the shot and those tighters 674 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: that kind of determine the levels of any bodies in 675 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: our body, Um, that will amount a response necessary to 676 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: comp at the virus. We won't know that until they're 677 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: able to test tighters and people who have received both doses, 678 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, months later, years later. Um. And so just 679 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: based on what they know about COVID, also taken into 680 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: account that we are starting to see mutations, uh, and 681 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: comp to what we see with other viruses that we 682 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: get routine vaccines. Vaccines work, for example, influenza. The flu, 683 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: we know that we have to get a shot every year, 684 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, just because the strains constantly changed, and you know, 685 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: it's all a prediction and et cetera. So, UM, they 686 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: don't know for certain. Um. Just with my knowledge about 687 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: vaccines and how viru, I wouldn't be surprised if we 688 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: at the least are required to get a booster some 689 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: period of time later. Um, I'm praying what I'm praying 690 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: doesn't happen or what isn't necessary is that we have 691 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: to go through these two doses every year because you're 692 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of people having to take off work, 693 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 1: you know. So, does this mean that you are um 694 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: immune to the virus so you don't have the vaccine? No, 695 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: So it doesn't mean that I'm immune to the virus. 696 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: So what the data shows the Fiser vaccine, you are 697 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,280 Speaker 1: you have a ninety less likely chance of contracting the virus, 698 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: which means that you still have a five percent chance 699 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: of contracting it. And with Maderna, I think it's like 700 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: ninety four ninety four point five or something like that, 701 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: So that means I reduced. Gonna make a little joke, 702 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep it to myself. What were you 703 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: gonna say, like getting pregnant? Right? It is exactly if 704 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,959 Speaker 1: you take your first control, you reduce your chances getting pregnant. Now, 705 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: can we say there are people who have been taken 706 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: a per control and they still ended the pregnant, Absolutely, 707 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: but not that often. So that's that's what they're saying. 708 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: With the virus, that's what the data shows. So um 709 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: by me having received both. So with one dose with FISER, 710 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: you reduce your chance by eighty five percent, but then 711 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: with both doses you reduce your dose in total by theoretically, 712 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: so again there's still a five percent chance that I 713 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: received it, UM, that I can contract COVID nineteen and 714 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: so for me and deciding whether or not I wanted 715 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 1: to get UM the vaccine or receive the vaccine, that 716 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: was one thing I had considered. I mean, there's a 717 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: percent chance that if I get this vaccine, I won't 718 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 1: contract COVID. Well, I mean that sounds very appealing to me. UM, 719 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: So no in my room to it, not necessarily, but 720 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: it significantly reduces my chance of getting it. So what 721 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the media stating that people are 722 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: dying from the vaccine. So, I know there's one individual. 723 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: It was a doctor, believe it or not, in Florida 724 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: that died like two weeks after receiving the first dose. 725 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, it was either the first dose 726 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: or the second dose. UM that was alarming. UM, and 727 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: I had gotten I had heard about that story, maybe 728 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 1: like a day or two after, or was it a 729 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 1: day or two before I got mine, or maybe a 730 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: day or two after. Nonetheless, it was like very close 731 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: to me receiving the first dose. And so, I mean, 732 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: no one wants to hear that because we know that 733 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: there's so many unknowns with the virus and with the 734 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: vaccine itself. But what from what I was able to 735 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: collect behind that story is that, yes, that event happened. 736 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, it was like a bleeding event, 737 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: like he wasn't able to clop properly shortly after receiving 738 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: the vaccine. And then I think he might have had 739 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: like an aneurysm or something in his brain. UM, don't 740 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: quote me, but they can't say for certain that would 741 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: happened with that doctor, which is very tragic and very unfortunate, 742 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: was a result of him receiving the vaccine. And that 743 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 1: is something that you know, we're gonna have to watch 744 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 1: and be careful with. Two Like, for example, obviously now 745 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: that they're actually vaccinating the general public, so of course 746 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: first responders have received their vaccines, healthcare workers have received 747 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: the vaccine, and now they're um there and ministering the 748 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: vaccine to um the general public, those over the age 749 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: of sixty five and those who are high risk, so 750 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 1: those with a list of medical conditions. Uh, we have 751 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: to just know that, yes, these people are at highest 752 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: risk when it comes to contracting the virus, so they 753 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: are at the top priority of receiving the vaccine. But 754 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: also know that these people have high risk conditions. So 755 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 1: if a person receives the vaccine and unfortunately, let's say 756 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: they have a heart attack, well, if they have a 757 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: history of heart disease, we can't say for certain that 758 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: they had a heart attack because they received this vaccine, 759 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So that's what's gonna be 760 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: very very difficult to kind of assess, but you know, 761 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: we need So that's the data that we need to collect, 762 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: and we won't know that until we get more people vaccinated, 763 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: so we can say for certain, Okay, this is a 764 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: result of the vaccine versus like this is just you know, 765 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 1: the natural progression of this person's life and this person's health. Unfortunately, 766 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: So now that you receive a vaccine, are you advocating 767 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: for it? Like, are you gonna spread the word? And 768 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: like I so I say this, I advocate for making 769 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: an informed decision and being educated and not just because 770 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: what I see and hear from a lot of just 771 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: anti vaccinators in general, and like these are the people 772 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: who like don't support the flu shot, et cetera. Um, 773 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: they hear from a person who read some blogs somewhere 774 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 1: that talked about all of these issues and all this 775 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: crazy stuff with these vaccines and why you shouldn't support them, 776 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: why you shouldn't, um you get your kids vaccinated, and 777 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: why you shouldn't be vaccinated yourself. But who gives the 778 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: this person the credentials to determine that this is unsafe? 779 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, what is their background 780 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: to make them an expert in this subject matter? So 781 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 1: you have to be careful. I feel like, if you're 782 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: gonna do research, you also have the research. Who are 783 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: you're you know, where you're getting your your information from 784 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: and or you getting your research from, and make sure 785 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: it's a reputable source and double check their credentials. Like 786 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: if some school teacher and you know what I'm saying 787 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: Montana who grew up on a farm somewhere, is saying 788 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: that this vaccine causes I don't know, scoliosis, and then 789 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,400 Speaker 1: everybody runs with it. It's like, well, who is this person? 790 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: How does she know that? Like what makes her expert 791 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: to determine that this vaccine causes to aleosis. And so 792 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: I think it's so easy now with the Internet and 793 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: social media and blog sites and podcasts, et cetera, where 794 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 1: you can get a little bit of information and this 795 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: person may speak very well and it sounds legitimate, and 796 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: it might not have no validity whatsoever. And so I 797 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: advocate educating yourself and making an informed decision decision. I 798 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: respect people's decision not to get vaccinated, because I mean, 799 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: I have reservations myself. We don't know the term long 800 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: term effects. But make sure you make that decision after 801 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: doing your own research and you're not ignorantly deciding against it, 802 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: because I mean, not only are you potentially protecting your 803 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: own life, but you're protecting in the lives of those 804 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: around you by becoming vaccinated. Well, I was gonna have 805 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: a question about what's your advice, but I think you 806 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: pretty much summed it up well. I I am like, 807 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: I think this was a great interview. This interview. Maybe 808 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,320 Speaker 1: maybe remember how smart you were. I always knew you 809 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: were smart, but I think I have really smart because 810 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: I remember as being in college and you studying all 811 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: this chemistry and science and ships. I'm just like Girl, 812 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: why we were doing We were doing a lit. I 813 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: do miss me too. Hopefully when the world open back 814 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: up in the next year or two, I'll be down 815 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: there for home coming Yes Girl in New York. I 816 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: feel ashamed, that embarrassed that I haven't been there yet, 817 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: but it's definitely on my bucket list. Do please hit 818 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: me up so we can hang out, get drunk, and 819 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: reminiscence Yes Girl. If y'all have the questions comments of 820 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: her stars, please make sure to email me at Hello 821 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: at the PSD podcast dot com. And until next time, 822 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: everyone Later,