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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome

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Speaker 1: it or not, even though the season has ended, there's

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Speaker 1: actually quite a bit to talk about today. But at

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Speaker 1: first I would like to talk about Nate Newton, did

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Speaker 1: you have a job interview today? What good? Yes? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The Joneses invited me on a virtual zoom meeting. I

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Speaker 1: am an assistant to assistant head of scouting and player Uh.

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Speaker 1: And now for the change, this whole program. I've made

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Speaker 1: some quick suggestions to the Joneses and they told me

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Speaker 1: to hold it back and not present it on the show.

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Speaker 1: So I had to dress up for that. But thank you. Wow, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're getting paid more than tens an hour,

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Speaker 1: so bamm. So basically, so basically they just fulfilled the

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Speaker 1: Rooney rule and you're really not gonna get the job Jessic. Wow,

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Speaker 1: No really, man, I'm getting I'm getting prepared because I'm

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Speaker 1: going to the stadium this week because Tom Brady's coming

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Speaker 1: in and we're playing in the wild in the wild

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Speaker 1: Cards series. That's dress we lost teams. We didn't win

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Speaker 1: last week. No, Dan, what Jalen said, Zele said, we

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Speaker 1: want watch watch the team. Oh I thought we were.

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Speaker 1: I mean the way Jalen spoke, I thought were having

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Speaker 1: a motivational speech going on what this isn't all this is.

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Speaker 1: I'm going off script here because that's a good point.

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Speaker 1: I'm going off script. We got a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: We want. We're gonna talk about Kelly Moore today, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about coaching changes. We're talking about Dak Layton.

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Speaker 1: But you brought that up and we we we kind

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Speaker 1: of poked fun at Jalen and and you know, when

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Speaker 1: he says things like that, I wanted to get y'all's

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Speaker 1: take on this. There were several guys after he made

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Speaker 1: those comments that posted stuff like on their Instagram story

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Speaker 1: supporting Jalen. So is that them just being a good

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Speaker 1: teammate or they seeing stuff and talking about stuff in

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Speaker 1: their meetings that we are missing and they're buying into

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Speaker 1: it at least two guys that reposted stuff like on

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Speaker 1: their Instagram story of him on film making plays, and

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Speaker 1: I've never seen that before the whole season, and it

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Speaker 1: just happened to come a day or two after him

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Speaker 1: making those comments. So is there anything to take out

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Speaker 1: McCarthy said before that what they see on film isn't

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Speaker 1: play Devil's advocate. He finished second in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: I want people to understand is there's a difference between

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Speaker 1: line is one. I'm out by the way, I'm out.

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Speaker 1: I'm out by the way, Kurt. This is all you

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Speaker 1: So if you're making tackles five and six yards down

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Speaker 1: But also a lot of the issue is how are

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Speaker 1: the less responsibility he has, the better he can play.

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Speaker 1: If if coach, if this coach, if he's here next

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Speaker 1: in can't give him a one position where they say, Jalen,

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Speaker 1: Learn this position, and I think Jalen would be all right.

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Speaker 1: I think we'll see something of what we saw two

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Speaker 1: You know I I'm on Jayla more than anybody you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna criticize, Yes, I am, because you know

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Speaker 1: I bragged on his kid and I and the story.

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Speaker 1: go back and say, this guy, it's really a one

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Speaker 1: not his problem. That I'm being honest, that that is

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Speaker 1: or you get rid of it. I'm serious. You what

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Speaker 1: back this year. Okay. All you can do is really

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Speaker 1: You know when you got guys like that who say, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: you got to literally say, hey, jaymen get to this

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Speaker 1: You can't leave him to say, Okay, cover this guy.

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Speaker 1: Either way, it's not happening. We know who Jalen is now.

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Speaker 1: So she said he needs to be like a freelance guy. Then, right,

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Speaker 1: he just needs Yeah, don't read and react to go

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Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, go get it. Go get it man,

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Speaker 1: that comes down to what your coach staff can do

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Speaker 1: and can't do. And then when I'm saying this, and

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Speaker 1: I'm saying this, you have to have great players around

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Speaker 1: That's I guess I'm again just playing Devil's advocate. I know, like,

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Speaker 1: Focus has him ranked seventh overall. They have Jada and

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Speaker 1: ranked fiftieth overall. But you look at their stats across

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Speaker 1: Jadel has one and a half. Blake has nine tackles

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Speaker 1: even though I haven't been big on kell him besides

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00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: the last three or four games, he showed that he

428
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: could compete as a coordinator. But fellas, once again, we've

429
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: gotten somebody, We've given them all the experience they need,

430
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: and then we ship them off, you know, And I'm

431
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: not saying that every coach that we come through here

432
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: that we should keep him a long period of time.

433
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: But Kellum showed some promise these last three or four

434
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: games of being willing to work his offense. Now he

435
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: still get willy nilly, But that's what coach McCarthy should

436
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: step up and say, hey, Kellum, look here, we need

437
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: to run this ball to close it out. It is

438
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: two minutes left in the game. You know how important

439
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: with him coming back? How important we talk about all

440
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: the time, how consistency's really important, especially when it comes

441
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: to your quarterback. How important is it if they lock

442
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Dack down, they get the deal done with Dak that

443
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: you have Kellen here that's been here with Dak. How

444
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: important was it to bring him back? Or could a

445
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: different coordinator come in and slide right in and not

446
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: miss a beat? Or did they need that consistency for

447
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: the sake of Dak to keep him on this upward

448
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: trajectory that he's been on. They have coach Nutsmire here,

449
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: so it would have been all right, Coach McCarthy. It's

450
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: intelligent enough to understand the play calling. Uh, Coach Nussmier.

451
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: If I'm pronouncing his name right, he understands play calling.

452
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: He's not gonna slouch either, So everything would have been okay.

453
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: But with Kellum coming back and if they did consult

454
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Dak and saying, what do you think you know at

455
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: that stage, I don't know if they did, didn't. I

456
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: know he's satisfied. The key now is you have to

457
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: sign DA and you have to do it so fast

458
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: it's gonna make everybody head swim. He shouldn't be no negotiation.

459
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: It should be like, okay, Dak signed. They'body like whoa

460
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: okay on one or three fives? A fan on whatever

461
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: they are. It should be like rolling in dope, broh, Okay,

462
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great segue that you didn't

463
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: need create whatever they are, that's the flagship station. But

464
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: you create what do they call? Shanna? You know how

465
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: to pronounce them? Bet and I do? What's that? I don't.

466
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you? One or five point yeah? The fan?

467
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: What is the what are they numbers? Three? You got it?

468
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: You got five three because the point three gets you

469
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: in Trump. It's one or five three? I knew I

470
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: was pronouncing it wrong. Am I correct? Shanna? I don't

471
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about? One five point three? It's

472
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: one or five point three. You shouldn't know, jess if

473
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: all of us, it's like a like an Avid Costello routine.

474
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I apologize since we're

475
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: in the board of since where the board of correcting,

476
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: it's one of it's one or five point three. And yes,

477
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: it's nuts Meyer and it is not. Okay, No, it's done. Terrio,

478
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: It's done Terrio, Poe special k l L No, No, no,

479
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: it's t r O. Jesse. So Nate brought up Nate

480
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: brought up Dak. I think we all agree you got

481
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: to get the deal done with Dak. Is that does

482
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: the ankle bother you at all? Do you wait and

483
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: see what that development looks like. We're being told that

484
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: he's progressing and he's on schedule or ahead of time.

485
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Do you wait on that at all? Or if you're

486
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: Jerry and Stephen, do you get this deal done like today?

487
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: My thing is what the ankle is? They reported there

488
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: was no ligament damage, right, there was no other serious

489
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: damage except the broken bone. And if we're just talking

490
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: about a broken bone and the healing, he's not the

491
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: running back, he's not the receiver, he's not the linebacker.

492
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: Like for a quarterback. He doesn't have to be mobile,

493
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: even though mobility is some part of his game. It's

494
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: just done his arm work. Is his brain still functioning,

495
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: Is his I still being able to see down the field.

496
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: Those are the things that I'm really worried about. If

497
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: for me, if you're telling me that it wasn't any

498
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: ligament damage, any nerve damage done, then we're gonna we're

499
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: gonna put some plates in that angle. We're gonna heal

500
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: that thing back up, and we're gonna pray to the

501
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: other and break it again. You know. But this shouldn't

502
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: be much concern in this It's not a major factor

503
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: in what he does. Yeah, you gotta plan and throw

504
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: the ball and have a good base, but let's stop

505
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: trying to find him. Make it. We've we've found excuse

506
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: after excuse after excuse about why we shouldn't pay this

507
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: young man, and he has overcome every excuse, and even

508
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: in this year, he's shown you what's your team would

509
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: look like without him, And I would like to say,

510
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: we don't like what that looks like. So for them,

511
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: it's not having to see how the ankles progress. The

512
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: same doctors the same if you trusted them doctors, and

513
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't the same doctors that are working on

514
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: Dak's ankle right now or did the surgery or whatever,

515
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: or the same one that told you okay about Lady

516
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: vanderas next was okay about Jaylan Smith's need. So if

517
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: those doctors, whether you want to believe him or not,

518
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: if you believe them for those then demn't believing for him.

519
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: And I trust Britt Brown, and I trust I trust

520
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: Jim Mauer and Greg all those guys down in the

521
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: training facility to get them back right. Let's stop making excuses.

522
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: Let's stop trying to find other ways to negate giving

523
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: this man all the money that he deserves. Unless you're

524
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: planning on going in this draft and moving down and

525
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: trying to find your way to the fields kid or

526
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Lawrence kid, or the kid from BYU or the kid

527
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: from North Dakota State. If that ain't your plan, pay

528
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: the man is money and let's move on. How important

529
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: is it to the entire off season? I mean they

530
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: can't start negotiating now. How should they be getting this

531
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: done immediately? I mean I would think the whole off

532
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: season kind of revolves around what they're gonna do with

533
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: that immediately immediately, nathanie'all. Immediately. It should happen immediately. It

534
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: should happen immediately. It should be so fast to the

535
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: flagship station which I can't call the numbers correctly, should

536
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: be like, Wow, this is breaking news. The horns should

537
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: be going off. We just signed that, We've just got

538
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: we just got a fine for signing them too soon.

539
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: And I would got to give up a draft because

540
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: we signed it so soon. Fellows, I mean, I'm trying

541
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: to be funny here, but Jesse gave you the real.

542
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: If we keep finding excuses not to have this kid,

543
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: let's quit wasting time. Either say hey, fellas, we ain't

544
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: signing you and let's move on. Are signed the kid,

545
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: but don't play, just don't play. What will it tell you?

546
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: What or what does it say if this thing drags

547
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: on and it gets to the draft, and then you

548
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: get after the draft and you start getting it messes

549
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: up there all the draft positions rights, but about I

550
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: get that, But what does it tell you about ownership?

551
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 1: What does it tell you if this thing starts dragging

552
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: out again and it looks like committed right? But why not?

553
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Why why not? Because they keep telling us this is

554
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: our guy. This is our guy, he is our future,

555
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: he's our guy. If that's the case, you're are you trying?

556
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 1: You're trying. You're talking about you know, forty million dollars

557
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: and you're haggling over two or three million a year,

558
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: and you're haggling over a year on the term. Is

559
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: what we've been told. That's the sticking points in the

560
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. That's pennies on the dollar. Why

561
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: question is now negotiating? Negotiating? Right? We know what his

562
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: number is. I don't think the number has changed pretty

563
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: much from last year. We know what the terms that

564
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: he's looking for. So you had an entire year to

565
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: figure this out, to mull over it, to have conversations,

566
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: do it like this isn't This isn't something that we

567
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: just thought about this year. This has been a multi

568
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: year negotiation that we've been trying to figure out for him.

569
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: So the numbers are what the numbers are. The numbers

570
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: and whatever he asked for last year is probably on

571
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: part was going to ask for again this year. And

572
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: there's one thing that I've been seeing and and it

573
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: may it may not mean anything, but I just think

574
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: about my family and how I talk with my older brother,

575
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: and the conversation is that my older brother and I have,

576
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,919
Speaker 1: and I start looking at Dak's brother and the things

577
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: that he says via his social media yep, and I

578
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that he's saying those things.

579
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: And it's never been brought up in the conversation between

580
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: two brothers, especially when we know that they're not distant brothers, right,

581
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: They're not like, well, yeah, that's my brother, but we

582
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: don't really talk like that I'm alienated from my family

583
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: or that brother is like the lost brother of the tribe.

584
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: When you know the relationship that Dak and his brother

585
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: have and you know that they're thicker than thieves and

586
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: they're tight, and you hear things from that party. I'm

587
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: not saying that he is Dak's mouthpiece, but I'm just

588
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: I know how conversations happens with brothers, and you discuss

589
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,959
Speaker 1: these things, and he says things, and Dak says things

590
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: back to him, and they have these conversations and his

591
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: dialogue back and forth. And so when you start seeing

592
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: things that he's tweeting, he's like, we're not really happy

593
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: with how we're being handled. Yes, we're happy to be

594
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: in the part of the organization, but I don't know

595
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: they're truly happy how the way they're being handled. And

596
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: if this thing drags out, man and God forbid, God forbid,

597
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: they do another franchise. Tag you can you can wave

598
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott goodbye. Ye, you'd have him one more year

599
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: and then there's all the negotiating in the world. King

600
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: won't be able to say no at that point in time.

601
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: At that point in time, you told me all you

602
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: need to tell me. Yeah, but the sticking point's been

603
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: the years. Right. Do you think the Cowboys should should

604
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: just should they give in to what they've I think

605
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 1: Dak wants at least last year, he wanted like three

606
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: years and Cowboys wanting four? Do they? Is it time

607
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: to bite the bullet? You give him one he wants? Yep,

608
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: he everybody'll get him the loss. Yeah, yeah, you handled

609
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: and you lost. Here's my deal on the years, Kurt, Okay,

610
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: you want three, we want to give you four or five?

611
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: You know what, We'll give you your three and if

612
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 1: you take us to an NFC champion Ship game, guess what.

613
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,959
Speaker 1: Here's the checkbook. Here's the amount of years you want.

614
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: You know how long it's been since they've been there.

615
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: If he wants a three year deal and he'd get

616
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: you where you want to go in those three years,

617
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: here you go, do you what do you want? Dak?

618
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: What do you want? And if he doesn't, then guess

619
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: what that tells you what you need to know and

620
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: you can move on after those three years. But he's

621
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: worth every single penny that you could pay him if

622
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: in those three years he gets you to where you

623
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: want to go. That's my opinion. So if he wants

624
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: three years, guess what. Okay, Dak, you're right, and Jesse's right.

625
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: He bet on himself. We wanted to play this out

626
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: and slow play it because we wanted to. We wanted

627
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: to get you at a bargain. We lost. He's a

628
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: lot better than what we were gambling on. He won.

629
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 1: Here you go, congratulations, here's pay day. And then Nate's

630
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: over there just smiling because Nate's been telling us for

631
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: two years, do not franchise this guy. Do not franchise

632
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: this guy. If you franchise him the second year, he's

633
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: gone on and look, guess what's happening. You're entering this

634
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: second year. So Nate jump in. I know you're being quiet,

635
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: just you smiling. Like I said, I would say again,

636
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: our flagship stations should be like breaking news or horns

637
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: should be blowing everything. We've signed. This guy dak is signed,

638
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: and that's all we should hear. Are they trying to

639
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: The posturing is no good. It doesn't work. We've been

640
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: posturing for two years, so all we should hear now

641
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: is we don't want him, but he signed. They've been

642
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Speaker 1: talking about they keep dropping hands where they have to

643
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Speaker 1: balance out, you know, paying their star with trying to

644
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Speaker 1: by pay players around him to make the whole team good.

645
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: But are they trying to kind of I wonder if

646
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to make up for maybe some past mistakes

647
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: with the salary cap. I mean, you know, you look

648
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: at it. You know the Mark Lawrence's sorry. You look

649
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: at Ezeke Elliott's sary in Tyrn Smith. Now it's got

650
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: a big salary and he's breaking down. I mean, have

651
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: they put themselves in a position where they don't have

652
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: as much flexibility because they made mistakes in the past.

653
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't know the sary cap problems, but I know

654
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: who makes this team go and I know who makes

655
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: them much better. Now you go out and you get

656
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: you two or three defensive studs. And I think if

657
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,439
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658
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: be in the playoff next year. Without either one of them,

659
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: you won't be in the playoffs next year. All right, fellas,

660
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: let's take our last break. You know what we're gonna do.

661
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662
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663
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670
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671
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672
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673
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674
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675
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676
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Speaker 1: United And today this week was a sad week, a

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726
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Speaker 1: You worry about yourself. Worry about yourself. Um, sad week

727
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: this week as players season ended on Sunday, and it's

728
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Speaker 1: a it's a really abrupt ending to what is a

729
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Speaker 1: you know, a journey that starts in you know April

730
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Speaker 1: May for these guys with mini camps and OTAs and

731
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: all that stuff that they you know, this time of year,

732
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: players take off. They normally go on vacations, get out

733
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Speaker 1: of town, do whatever they want to do, go back

734
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: home with With COVID, things probably look a little bit different,

735
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: but it's a when you're when we're in the building

736
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: in a normal year, it's really strange because you're up

737
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: there all day, every day, you're around these guys, you're

738
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: around the coaching staff. And then when it's over with,

739
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: bless you, Jess. And then when it's over with, it's done,

740
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 1: and and everybody's gone, and it's a it's this hollow,

741
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: empty feeling like Okay, what next? And that's just us

742
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: as staff members. I can imagine, you know, the camaraderie

743
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: that's in the locker room and you're with these guys,

744
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: your brothers, your you know, these guys become your family

745
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: and you're around them for ten twelve hours a day,

746
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: every single day, for you know, seven eight months. What's that?

747
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: What's that like? You know, Nate, you kick us off?

748
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: What's that like when the season's over? Is it? Is

749
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: it a weird deal for you guys? It is, man,

750
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: because that that Super Bowl party when it's over, Man,

751
00:48:47,800 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: you're looking at everybody you I sorry, Tho, I go

752
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: to that. Okay, that's what you're talking about. Which way,

753
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. I give you to seven

754
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: to nine. The promising look like getting coming back. I

755
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: can give you the three thirteen take you go get

756
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: cut which way you need? Okay, all right, Jesse, Jesse,

757
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: tell us what you're tell us your experience. Well, you

758
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: know after that first round playoff exit. Um, you know,

759
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: for for for most guys, Um, how can I put this?

760
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: You build a bond and there's a friendship that is

761
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: made throughout OTA's mini camp, training camp, and throughout the season.

762
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: And when that season ends, I go my own way

763
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: until we have to meet again. Now, there are some

764
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: that you have a really close bob to, like you know,

765
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: you're really really really good friends. But as far as

766
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: the team aspect, you're upset that the season is over.

767
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: But mentally, I am ready to get as far away

768
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: from this place as I possibly can. Now, when you

769
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: go and have your exit interviews, you want to make

770
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: sure that you're having a good exit interview. They're telling

771
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: you good thing they told you about you had a

772
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: good season, or so on and so forth, And you

773
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: hope that you're a guy if you're not on contract,

774
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: that they're looking to either sign a contract with or

775
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: bring you back in some sort of capacity for the

776
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: next year. But when you're you know, when you're packing

777
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: up your stuff. Man, it's a bittersweet moment there, But

778
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: my mind is totally focused on how can I get away?

779
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: How can as far as I can get away from

780
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: this place as possible because I've given so much of

781
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: myself throughout this season. I've given so much time, energy

782
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: and effort that I don't want to be in this

783
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: building anymore. I don't want watching another piece of film.

784
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to lift another weight. I don't want

785
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: to go to another meeting. I want to go and

786
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: just relax. I want to find time for myself to

787
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: heal up, to recalculate my plan and how I want

788
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: to approach with the information that I got from my

789
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: exit meeting, how am I going to approach my offseason

790
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: to get better and to either make myself some money

791
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: or continue to live up to what they paid me

792
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: for already. But I want to get away from this

793
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: place as fast as possible as an exit meeting is

794
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: Like are they Is it a bat down because they're

795
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: just ripping on your or is it a positive thing?

796
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean no, they don't care. No. No. Like you,

797
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: you know you'll meet with your position coach and you

798
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: know it's basically a one on one conversation, and it's

799
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: not so um, what's your position coach. It's more like

800
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: more like a guy's having a beer conversation and they say, hey, man, listen,

801
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: here's how the year broke down. No, no, no, no no no,

802
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: here's where you went. Here's what things were good, here

803
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: things were bad. Here's what we want you to improve on. Hey,

804
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: this off season. You know, in Nate's case, it might

805
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: be like, hey, don't get too big right back when

806
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: you're on the wall, come on, you know, but you know,

807
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: take care of yourself, and your coaches will tell you

808
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: get away. But here's what we want you to work

809
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: on in the off season. And then you're gonna meet

810
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: with your position coach. I mean, you're you're head coach,

811
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: and it's kind of the same thing. Um, as far

812
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: as here's what we thought of you, here's what we

813
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: thought you know you can improve on. We want to

814
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: see better, and it's kind of going about your business.

815
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: They're generally positive. Yeah, positive, man. They asked your questions, Hey,

816
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: what so what what are your off season playing? What

817
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: are you planning on doing? You're gonna be here, You're

818
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I know that you're from from me

819
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: and you're from New Jersey. You're going back to New Jersey. Nah, coach,

820
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna stay here, you know, vacation with you know,

821
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: with with the girlfriend a little bit and then you know,

822
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: get training in about them, you know, a couple of

823
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: weeks or so. But I don't plan on leaving, you know,

824
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: I plan on staying here. They just kind of asked

825
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: general questions about what's going on and say, hey, you know,

826
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: well if you're here, you know, come by, get your

827
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: workouts in. We'll be here stop by, but hey, what

828
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: we want to work out on? And they give you

829
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: the things that they want you to improve on. And

830
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: they would tell me after the first year of coaches,

831
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: all right, day, we know what you're gonna do. Just

832
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: please keep in contact with us when you go down

833
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: to the Fat Fall as it coach, you got nice spots,

834
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: you know, but you got everybody out d you know,

835
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: about a month before the season started, two month before

836
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: the Seastar beat out of the Fat Fall. Y'all have

837
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Speaker 1: a good and then y'all know me over there at

838
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Speaker 1: McDonald's Arto extra large super Fries. I'm gonna tell you something, man,

839
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be frankly honest with you guys, and

840
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: this is may not be good for young kids to hear.

841
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: Who's inspiring to think that they can be an NFL

842
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: or any professional player is God gave me so much

843
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: talent and so much love to I didn't have to

844
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: work as hard as most people. Brother, because even if

845
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: I was overweighting out of shape, if I lined up

846
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: on that field, if I got a chance to line

847
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: up on that field in practice in a game, nine

848
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 1: times out of ten, I was gonna win. That was

849
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: a I was gonna win. And that's what coach Johnson

850
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: and coach Landry and all of them hated, was won't

851
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: this fat dude take care of himself so he can

852
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: be something special instead of just getting in shape during

853
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: the season of getting in shaped during the during the

854
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: training camp. And I learned that when Charles Haley came

855
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: in and I made a run of maybe five or

856
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: six Pro Bowls, And so some of us don't learn

857
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: how to be pros late. But you first have to

858
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: have the talent. If you don't have the talent, the

859
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: record were indicated. Yeah, as our departments a little bit

860
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: different than a lot of people in the organization because

861
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: we're we're on the same schedule as the players. So

862
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 1: you embrace the grind and you know what's coming and

863
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: you know when it it gets here, it's non stop,

864
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: and your whole life is committed to that seven or

865
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: eight months that that's all you're gonna do, and you

866
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: live for that like it's it's fun. It's a fun job.

867
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: It's not a job because you don't feel like you're working,

868
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: you know, And but you also look forward to whenever

869
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: football is over, hopefully that's in February, when you go

870
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl win. Embracing that is that what

871
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: it I mean, is that what it's like for the

872
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: is that what it's Stop. Don't discount what I'm saying, Nate.

873
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: Stop and I don't have to. I'm sorry, and I

874
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 1: and I don't have talent like you, doesn't. Doesn't don't

875
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: invalidate me, Nate. I have feelings trying to get out

876
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 1: of bigger point. So trying to get to a bigger point.

877
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: But now we know that it's gonna be a point.

878
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: We know it's gonna be a gride. But you also

879
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: look forward to that time off because it allows you

880
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: to sprint through those seven or eight months because you know, hey,

881
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 1: at the end of this tunnel, I get to go

882
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: relax and do whatever I want to do for a

883
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: little bit and take a little bit of time, and

884
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: then that sets you up to be able to do

885
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: it not get burnt out. Is that kind of the

886
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: same mentality as the players. No, but I don't have

887
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 1: a good cut tag one. Lah. You know what, this

888
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: show should be forty five minutes. We should end it.

889
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: We're five minutes over. We should just stop right now,

890
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: non stop it. I got a question. I got a question.

891
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: So you said that that uh taking well, Layton Vanderesh

892
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: said yesterday and then forward like he'll take a couple

893
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: of weeks off and then he's gonna be back and

894
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna be working out. February March Apron he said

895
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: that I'm looking forward to it. I'm on a mission,

896
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: and I think all the guys should be too. So

897
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: he's saying that his teammates should be in there working

898
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: just as hard as him. Two players, will they, for

899
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: lack of a better world, put pressure on their teammates

900
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: to get in there and work out, or is it

901
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: just kind of every guy for himself. It's how you

902
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: talk to him. You know, you don't never want to

903
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: try to put pressure on the guy. But Emmett was

904
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: good at Emmett didn't go in that big leadership role

905
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: for us, but but he was. I called him, and

906
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: what you're doing doing off season? Da da dada? How

907
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: you doing? A homeboy? I'm getting over there working out,

908
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: you know, where as Mike herbould be like, what you're doing,

909
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: fat man? As you're working out? You know. It's different

910
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: players with different relationships give you different things. Charles Haley

911
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: be like, hey man, meet me at the Cowboys ten

912
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: at six o'clock. I ain't had no other choice, So

913
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 1: I didn't call him doing all season? So it's just Jess.

914
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: Maybe you had a different on your team, but guys

915
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of knew how to play each to get you

916
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: going right, you know what I'm saying. And that and

917
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: the funny thing is is that most guys take about

918
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: two or three weeks off where you gotta let your

919
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: body just heal right, no workouts, know anything, no nothing.

920
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: But then the natural inclination of who you are as

921
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: an athlete. And I say this as a skill playing guys,

922
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: we start looking around and said, nah, I want to

923
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: go get a workout in. I want to go. You know,

924
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: I want to go. You know you do on a

925
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: treadmil for a little while. I want to go get

926
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: to lift some weights because I just it's just who

927
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: you are, um. And then you'll have your guys. You

928
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: have your guys. You're like, yo, what you're about to

929
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: go do? All right, come on, let's go get one

930
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: in this morning. Let's let's go do this, Let's go

931
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: do that. And then you pick up the routine again.

932
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: But when he says everybody should do it, you know,

933
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: it's it's you're You're never gonna be able to tell

934
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: another grown man what I should do with my free time. Yeah,

935
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able to do that. Now, what

936
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: you can do is you can suggest. And this has

937
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: to come from like the leaders of your team. They say, hey, guys,

938
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: let's start working our way back in this thing. You know, hey, hey,

939
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: you know you might get a group text like yo, fellas,

940
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: it's it's been two three weeks. You know, hey, look

941
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: look man, March about March fifteenth, you know, after spring break,

942
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, all the kids home for spring break. As

943
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: soon as y'all sending kids back to school. Heys, how

944
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: about a field of us get up to the to

945
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: the to the to the facility and get a workout in.

946
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: And it may not be everybody, it may be three

947
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: or four or five guys, and then that kind of

948
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: just matriculates into Hey, tomorrow, I want to run some routes,

949
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: all right, cool, us run some routes tomorrow, and then

950
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: you kind of get back into the swing of things. Um.

951
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: But nobody know when guys break, you're not gonna be

952
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: able to get all those guys back together that early

953
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: in the season. Um, because guys want their break because

954
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: we know, like Shanna was saying, once the clock strikes

955
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: twelve and we're back out of it it again. OTA's Mini

956
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: Cabs training camp. The opportunity for those extended breaks where

957
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: those why I can eat what I want, I can

958
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: go what I want, right because every week during the season,

959
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: every Thursday, I'm on the scale, I'm I'm making sure

960
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: that it's two hundred and twelve or two hundred and

961
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: fourteen pounds because if it's over, I gotta pay, and

962
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: that ain't a good look. And so I'd be like,

963
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, hey, I'm gonna stay away from that barbecue.

964
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: You know, during the season, I'm gonna stay away from

965
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 1: alcohol during the season. I'm gonna stay away from McDonald

966
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: during the season. But when the all season comes, it's like, man,

967
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: give me a double quarter pounder, give me a pint

968
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: of beer, and and give me all the run right right, everybody,

969
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: Why y'all was turning at twelve o'clock, y'all was turning

970
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: into pumpkins. I was turning into a home baby. So

971
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: so yeah, So for Layton, you know, you have your

972
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: own personal things that you may want to you know,

973
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: you want what you want to do, and that's personally

974
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: and that's on your own thing. But you ain't gonna

975
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: tell other girl man when they should go would come

976
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: in and work out, No, that's not happening. You know.

977
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: Did you find that the better players were more likely to,

978
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: I guess work harder during the off station? Yes? No, yes, yes,

979
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,959
Speaker 1: all the time? My error, my error, Yes, you could

980
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: now Troy am Michael Urban, Emmitt Smith, Charles Haley, Tony Tolbert,

981
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 1: them got Chad Henny. These guys they were own it,

982
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: man Mark two, and they were on it. I would

983
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: come in there sometimes just passing through the cowboys sent

984
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: to see who car was up there. Say hey man,

985
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna getting these guys to go out with me.

986
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: And so after they finished working out, so I rolled

987
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: through that kind of late. And this is the same

988
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: good guys, good players that we talked about doing their

989
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: careers for me. Now Jesse, and I'm not saying Tony

990
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: Romo was coming into the Tony Romo was coming into

991
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: the practic facility with Tiger Woods. Okay, all right, okay,

992
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: and he go get on the treadmill, he go get

993
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: on the treadmill for thirty minutes, forty minutes, and then

994
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: they were heading up to some golf court to get

995
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: some work in, you know, like now now, now Again.

996
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: It was different because a lot of these guys have

997
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: personal trainers and they have different facility wh they can

998
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: work out at. But as far as coming into work,

999
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: a lot of guys really stayed stayed away. And we

1000
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: even had some guys who had bonuses, workout bonuses the

1001
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: free money. All you gotta do is show up for

1002
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: the off season workouts seventy five percent of the time

1003
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: and you get extra fifty seventy one hundred thousand dollars

1004
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: and those guys were like, you know, I'll see y'all

1005
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: when I'll see y'all when many camp starts, I'm not,

1006
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm not here for this. I'm I'm not, I'm not

1007
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: coming to this and I'm for a fact. There's guys

1008
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: we had workout bonuses fifty seventy five, one hundred grand

1009
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: and they were like, uh, I'm not coming to that.

1010
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: Every day. I'll see you guys. I was playing. We

1011
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: were trying to get every bit of well see, that's why,

1012
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: that's why y'all were showing up. I just want to

1013
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: say thank you to you guys, because anytime I ever

1014
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: try to, you know, relate to you guys with my

1015
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: job and the players, you guys are really quick to

1016
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: let me know that no one cares. No one cares.

1017
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: They don't tune into this show to hear me. They

1018
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: tune into this show to hear y'all. Like if I

1019
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: try to talk about my game day experience, if I

1020
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: try to talk about I want to hear how the

1021
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: how the season is for me. Like, so, Kurt, from

1022
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 1: now on, when you when you put in your notes

1023
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: for the show and you and I go on the

1024
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: away games, and you want to know what the atmosphere

1025
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: was like, or you want to know what the trip

1026
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,520
Speaker 1: was like, or how was the plane or the bus.

1027
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: Don't put that crap in there anymore because I ain't

1028
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: talking about it anymore because because no one wants to

1029
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: hear that, And Jesse and Nate are the first ones

1030
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: to let me know that no one wants to hear that.

1031
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not referencing my hell anymore on this

1032
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: show going forward. So thank you guys for reminding me.

1033
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: I know what my place is on this show. I'm

1034
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: the one that gets us in and out of breaks

1035
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: and that's it. That's all I do, and that's what

1036
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: I will continue to do going forward. So thank you

1037
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: guys for keep and just continue to be a just

1038
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 1: continue to be a pro bowl at your job. That's right.

1039
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: I think we ought to talk to Derek about getting

1040
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: our own workout bonuses. He think he can go for them. Yeah, exactly,

1041
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: will you say? Derek will say? Sure, who you want

1042
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: me to give it to? Because when I'm gonnaive, I'm

1043
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna give those guy workout bonuses and on your salary.

1044
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: So if you want to give them your salary, cur

1045
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: that's my god. Do you know. Do you know how

1046
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: cheat Derek is? Have you ever have you ever filed

1047
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: an expense report with Derek? Yeah? Yeah, okay, that's right.

1048
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: And you did what? Okay you you you you went

1049
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: to lunch with Nate to talk talk about the show. Okay,

1050
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: what exactly did y'all talk about? Well, I don't know

1051
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: if that show related what you need to I don't

1052
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: know if you got this. This ain't gonna fly now

1053
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: that that four dollars you spent on French fries. Can't

1054
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: do it. Can't do it. I can't do it. So well,

1055
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: we didn't get no more. Uh, we didn't get none

1056
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: of your mother this year, Shannon. But one time, miss Patty,

1057
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: you know we got Why did you say that? Why

1058
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: did you say that? We gotta get why y'all mind

1059
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: can't be on adult type situations? Man? Why do you

1060
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 1: always a t Why Why are you? Why are you?

1061
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: I was at the trailer park just well, if you

1062
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: know why I hang out that, don't take me there.

1063
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: That's why I'm gonna go. That's why I like to

1064
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: hang out. You know. It's just at the end of

1065
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: every year, man, I just want I just go put

1066
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: on some bomba every year for you and I think

1067
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: about your Channa. Is this what it's gonna be like

1068
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 1: in the off season now that we're only once a week?

1069
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 1: Like all all why you get missed because you used

1070
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: to go to Mexico? Where are you going this year?

1071
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. I

1072
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 1: got to look at all these COVID rules and where

1073
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: I can go and how I get this baby in

1074
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: and out of this country? Do you have for a baby?

1075
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: You gotta have a passport for a baby. Oh, I

1076
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think so. I think so. Oh yeah,

1077
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta work on that. You don't take

1078
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: your baby out of this country. Man, I'm about to

1079
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: say taking a baby out of the country. Well, I'm

1080
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 1: calling I'm calling CPS right now. In the US. You

1081
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: know you can go down to Florida or California. Yeah,

1082
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: I guess I can go there. Go right to the

1083
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: most hot spot skirt thank you, ditance up in like

1084
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: broken boat, get me a cabin for a week and

1085
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: just go hang out in the woods. That'd be cool.

1086
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: I might do that. Isola take you to take you

1087
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: a protection dog? It's them animals. Well, I've been seeing

1088
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: some videos of some wild animals lately. Boy, it's kind

1089
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: of nerve, right. I thought you meant so he don't

1090
01:06:52,080 --> 01:07:01,439
Speaker 1: make another baby? Yeah, hey, all right, Hey Bay, Kurt

1091
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,479
Speaker 1: has no no, no issue, man, Kurt. Kurt does whatever

1092
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: his wife says, right, Kurt, wife, happy life. I can

1093
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 1: handle wild animals. I've been dealing with them all year.

1094
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: At eleven at eleven thirty. Ain't nothing I'm scared of. So, fellas,

1095
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: it's been fun. We are on Thursdays at eleven thirty.

1096
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: We will just because you deserve it, We will give

1097
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: you an hour of this greatness every Thursday at eleven thirty.

1098
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,439
Speaker 1: We don't know what the hell we're gonna talk about

1099
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: for the next three months till the draft gets here.

1100
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out, so tune in. It may not

1101
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: even be football some days, but fellas, I'm gonna misdoing

1102
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 1: this every day. It was fun while it lasted, and

1103
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to look forward to every Thursday at eleven

1104
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: o'clock to be able to hang out with you guys

1105
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 1: and kteen draft picks on defense. Wow, seven to five

1106
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 1: free a defense. See Chris Beam. I'll see you all

1107
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 1: call of duty tonight. The rest of y'all. See y'all

1108
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: next week. This has been another episode. See you next week,

1109
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: La la loa. This has been a production of Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot