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Visit Azycardinals dot com slash podcast. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: Here we go one handed catching a touchdown. 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 4: Oh baby, I'll fail. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvic and nine year NFL veteran 14 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson. 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 5: Well, we have reached the end and unfortunately there is 16 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 5: no postseason football. As we say, Welcome Cardinals Red Sea Report. 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 5: We do it each and every Tuesday. Yes, the season 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 5: has ended, but we are with you year round. Now 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 5: talking about the offseason. Craig Gria, Lupal Calvic and Rob 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 5: Fredericks are joining us here on this Tuesday, following Week 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 5: eighteen in which the Cardinals not only beat the forty 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 5: nine ers, but swept the season series forty seven to 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 5: twenty four. Always good Rob to end on a high notes, 24 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 5: even though there is still disappointments considering the playoffs are 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 5: not being met. 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, and even though head coach Jonathan Gannon doesn't believe 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 6: in momentum, there is some good feelings going into the offseason. Now, 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 6: coming off of this victory against the forty nine ers 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 6: division opponent and the way the Cardinals played, I think 30 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 6: really can carry on into the offseason and propel this team. 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 7: Well, at least you know now right you went into 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 7: last offseason you didn't have a division win, So I 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 7: don't know what that means for confidence, but there should 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 7: be no question. Now you went three and three in 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 7: the division and you were a ricochet away from sweeping LA, 36 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 7: just like you swept the forty nine Ers. Those Seahawks 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 7: games weren't and yes there was a lot of self 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 7: inflicted against Seattle. You want a piece of Seattle asap? 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 7: How about a season opener against Seattle? Anybody with me 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 7: on that one? Show a hands, I'll take that in 41 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 7: Seattle anywhere September. You know what potential rain in the 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 7: parking lot outside Rob's of State, whatever, I mean, we'll 43 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 7: play him there. Actually it's a cobblestone driveway anyway, you know, 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 7: so I at least with that in mind, does momentum 45 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 7: carry over. No, but the confidence, and you know, maybe 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 7: just in the knowledge, I would say, of what you need. Now, 47 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 7: you know, after the first year, okay, you got used 48 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 7: to your own roster. Now maybe after year two, not 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 7: only do you know your roster that much better, but 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 7: I think you truly know your wants and your needs 51 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 7: and you probably know thy opposition really really well. 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 5: At this point, confidence has been the word that we've 53 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 5: heard a lot from coaches from players, because, yeah, this team, 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 5: those fifty three players, they're not all coming back. This 55 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 5: roster in twenty twenty four is going to look different, 56 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 5: maybe much different in twenty twenty five. But those individuals 57 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: rob that are going to still be wearing that Arizona 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 5: Cardinals uniform this upcoming season. How they finished that good 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: taste in their mouth based off their performance not only 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 5: on Sunday, but maybe they had a good year all 61 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: season long. That does carry over. 62 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 6: To your point, it does, and you know, is there 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 6: really an off season anymore? With the way the players 64 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 6: can get together on their own and develop that chemistry 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 6: and build on the chemistry is something that's going to 66 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 6: be vital, and you need to look no further than 67 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 6: the relationship the chemistry between Marvin Harrison Junior and Kyler Murray. 68 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 6: That's something that's often been talked about this season and 69 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 6: it's something that you know, I know they're going to 70 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 6: work very hard in the off season to build on. 71 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 7: And you saw it in the last two games, once 72 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 7: each at least against the Rams and then the forty 73 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 7: nine ers to wrap up the season. You saw the 74 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 7: sideline deep shot back shoulder connection, something we'd been waiting 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 7: for the majority of the year. So you did see 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 7: some aspects of their chemistry come to fruition, things that 77 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 7: you had been working on and waiting to develop and 78 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 7: take place in a game. And really the game is 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 7: the only way, the only place you can truly. 80 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 4: Practice that sort of stuff. 81 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 7: And we talked to Jonathan Gannon on his TV show 82 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 7: about that and he's like, look, in today's world, I 83 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 7: can't have my number one receiver going against my number 84 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 7: one corner monoi mono, full physicality, full contact football in practice. 85 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 7: The risk reward isn't there. And so some of that 86 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 7: stuff you have to learn on the job on game day. 87 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 5: Speaking of jag Let's flash back to Sunday postgame, his 88 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 5: thoughts not only on the game, a win over the 89 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: forty nine ers and finishing eight and nine. 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 8: Then acomplish what we wanted to accomplish this year, and 91 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 8: that stings. But I'm proud of them, I really am. 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 8: They fought, they battled, We had a lot of guys 93 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 8: in the lineup, roles are changing, you know. To put 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 8: that kind of effort against the San Francisco forty nine Ers, 95 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 8: a well coached, tough, physical team, I thought that was 96 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 8: pretty cool to see. So I'm proud of them and 97 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 8: I thank them for that. You know, It's good to 98 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 8: see us close out this year at home with a win. 99 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 5: Overall eight wins, doubling what they finished a year ago 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 5: six home wins, which is the most since twenty fifteen, 101 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: and as Paul you mentioned, three and three in the 102 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 5: NFC West after not winning a single division game in 103 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon's first season. Kyler Murray talking about what meant 104 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: or what it meant to win on Sunday. 105 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 9: I want to be playing next week. Didn't reach that, 106 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 9: didn't reach our goals, But you know, I know we're 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 9: I know we're heading right direction. 108 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 10: I know that. 109 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 9: Yes, it's unfortunate, but you know it's good to good 110 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 9: to play. Come out here and play the right way 111 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 9: to pride and how we play in Kamar and win. 112 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,679 Speaker 5: That's also what we heard not only postgame on Sunday, 113 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 5: but even Monday morning as players cleaned out their locker. 114 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 5: It was a consistent message like where this team is headed, 115 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: the direction the foundation laid on twenty twenty three. In 116 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, you build maybe that first level now 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: here in twenty twenty five, maybe it's the second and 118 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 5: third level to get into the postseason. 119 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 10: Yeah. 120 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 6: And one of the things I think this offseason the 121 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 6: coaching staff wants to identify is, you know, how did 122 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 6: we win four games in a row in the middle 123 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 6: of the season, get to the by at six and four, 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 6: and then you know, the wheels kind of came off 125 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 6: right two and five to end the season. What what 126 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 6: did we do different? What was different in that span? 127 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 6: Is there anything we can do to change that? What 128 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 6: we have to identify what it is that that happened 129 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 6: at the end of the season so that we can 130 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 6: get that corrected and get it so that we don't 131 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 6: have those those end of the year skids where you know, 132 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 6: for whatever reason, this team just just comes out flat 133 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 6: and is not able to come away with victories. 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 5: It was interesting though, because Jonathan Gannon brought that up 135 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 5: on Monday Paul about the bye week, and he understands 136 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 5: why everyone points to that as a pivot point in 137 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: the season, yet coaches it's week to week. He did 138 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 5: acknowledge though, that he will look back at how they 139 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: handled things daily and then Okay, the bye week happens. 140 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: What do you do? 141 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 5: I think. I think it's easy for everyone to point 142 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 5: to the bye week, yet at the same time, something happened, 143 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 5: maybe not immediately during that bye week, but limping into 144 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: the finish line. That's that's the bad taste that people 145 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 5: still have. 146 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 147 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 7: JG hinted heavily recently a couple of weeks ago on 148 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 7: his weekly TV show Game Plan, that they would look 149 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 7: into that in the off season. They're going to examine 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 7: them before and after pre and post by and I 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 7: asked Calvin Beacham before the Jonathan Gannon press conference. I 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 7: asked beach after his thirteenth year in the league, right, basically, 153 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 7: the CEO of the locker room and we'll be a 154 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 7: future business CEO at some point and or governor. And 155 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 7: we just said, okay, you know what's behind the pre 156 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 7: post by win loss record, and he sort of rolled 157 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 7: his eyes and he said, that's the NFL one score 158 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 7: games execution. We won some of those one score games 159 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 7: before the bye, we did not win them after the bye. 160 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: And I think if you. 161 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 7: Drill down a little bit deeper, it's somewhat captain obvious. 162 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 7: But the two games you won after the bye were 163 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 7: the two games you won the turnover battle against New 164 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 7: England against the forty nine ers. At the very end, 165 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 7: forty nine ers racked up yards all day long. They 166 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 7: had four hundred something totally yards. 167 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 4: You know what. 168 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 7: Else, They had two interceptions in a fumble by Josh Dobbs. 169 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 7: And if you look at Kyler, he had three interceptions 170 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 7: before the buye. 171 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: And he had eight after the bye. 172 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 7: So if you don't protect thy football, guess what you 173 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 7: put yourself in jeopardy of losing games. And I brought 174 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 7: up a you know you have a top five youngest 175 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 7: roster and then beat them. Officially rolled his eyes at 176 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 7: that one, said that has nothing to do with anything. 177 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 7: You know, other teams have young rosters. It's just can 178 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 7: you get the job done, especially in those money moments. 179 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 5: The value of the ball. We hear that a lot 180 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 5: from Jonathan Gannon, and then just playing with a little 181 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 5: bit more consistency. It's a handful of plays. Rob you 182 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 5: know this. 183 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: You played in the league. 184 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 5: Games are won and lost. You can point to five 185 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 5: or six plays a game. Hey, that's why. No, maybe 186 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 5: that's why. And I think if you limit those points 187 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 5: at the end of a game where you say, all right, 188 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: we were on the short end because of X, Y 189 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 5: and Z, if you can limit that now all of 190 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 5: a sudden, maybe you come out ahead more times than not. 191 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, the talent disparity is so minimal in this league 192 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 6: from team to team that you're right, And it really 193 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 6: comes down every game to four or five plays here 194 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 6: or there that are monumental in terms of the outcome 195 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 6: of that game. And Paul, you hit, You hit the 196 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 6: nail on the head. It's turnovers. The Cardinals defense had 197 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 6: not been getting any turnovers, not been causing any turnovers, 198 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 6: and someday you saw it. You know, you get two 199 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 6: interseven in a fumble recovery. Those are things that really 200 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 6: have a big impact on wins and losses. You got 201 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 6: the fake punt the first down. Now that didn't have 202 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 6: any direct correlation to the score, but special teams plays 203 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 6: can be huge in the outcomes of games. So all 204 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 6: these little things kind of add up and that goes 205 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 6: a long way to determining wins and losses. 206 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 7: Yeah, when you look at the turnover ratio, it's not 207 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 7: just the offense turning the ball over, it's the defense 208 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 7: not taking it away. To your point, and all you 209 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 7: have to do is go back to week seventeen at 210 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 7: the Rams, Buddha Baker had a ball hit him both hands. 211 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 7: Garrett Williams phenomenal play to flip the hips and get 212 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 7: his hands on a ball, but he had both hands 213 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 7: on that ball could have been an interception. So there 214 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 7: were opportunities where the defense. And going into that last game, 215 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 7: they had only fourteen takeaways all season long, which was 216 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 7: bottom three in the NFL. 217 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 5: And then you talk about complimentary football, what do you 218 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 5: do when you take the football away? The Cardinals only 219 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 5: finished with four touchdowns off of seven team takeaway So again, 220 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 5: are you doing on both ends of the line of 221 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 5: scrimmage offense and defense one final message to the team. 222 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 5: Head coach, Jonathan Gannon, when he addressed reporters on Monday, 223 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 5: told us what he would tell the team. 224 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 8: I told him today, you know, I'm disappointed we're not 225 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 8: playing right now, and that's you know, falls on me first, 226 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 8: and it's our own doing. And I also told them 227 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 8: the game's fair. You know, we shouldn't be playing right now. 228 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 8: You know, it's tough to take on the chin, but 229 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 8: I think when you can take it on a chin 230 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 8: like that, you should improve and grow and learn and 231 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 8: become better. So that's what we all have to do 232 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 8: from it. 233 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 5: You want to make the playoffs, it's very simple with 234 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 5: more games, I mean, eight is not going to cut it. 235 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: And then at the end of the season, where we 236 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 5: were talking about, okay, hey you're still alive. If you 237 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 5: get some help, no control your own destiny, take it 238 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 5: out of everyone else's hands, and put yourself in the postseason. 239 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 5: And those fourteen teams that are playing twelve this weekend, 240 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 5: plus the Chiefs and the Lions, now all of a sudden, yeah, 241 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 5: that's that's the goal, and that's what everyone is going 242 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:05,599 Speaker 5: to talk about here this offseason. 243 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: Pointing to twenty twenty five. 244 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 6: Well, that is the goal. And the off season started yesterday, 245 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 6: and you know it's different for every player. Some guys 246 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 6: need a little time to decompress, to you know, kind 247 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 6: of recharge their batteries and get away from football for 248 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 6: a little bit. But you'll see other guys in there 249 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 6: in the weight room getting after it already. So but 250 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 6: I imagine that there's going to be an active and 251 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 6: full participation in the offseason program. This team. I can 252 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 6: tell culturally they are united and they want to get 253 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 6: into the playoffs next year. 254 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 5: There are several cards in that player's lot right now 255 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 5: as we speak here. So yeah, to your point, Rob, 256 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 5: the offseason it began yesterday morning and continues here on 257 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 5: this Tuesday. Looking ahead though to twenty twenty five single 258 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 5: game tickets on sale now Azcardinals dot com forward slash 259 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 5: by tickets. It's Ezycardinals dot com forward slash buy tickets 260 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 5: to secure your seats for twenty twenty five. This is 261 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 5: the Arizona Cardinals radio networker. 262 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: Shot gun Snap Murray to throw a fade right side 263 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: of the end zone on the money to Marvin Harrison 264 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: Junior touchdown. What a throw by Murray. That's his sport 265 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: touchdown pass, tying a career high. 266 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 10: You can see that coming a mile away, Marvin Harrison 267 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 10: Junior one on one against the corner, and he went 268 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 10: ahead and ran the fade, and sure enough, Kyler Murray 269 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 10: put it out there, and Marvin Harrison Junior went and 270 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 10: got it. 271 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: Tex Fitz and let him know that Marvin Harrison Junior 272 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: just tied his rookie record. That's eight touchdown catches, tying 273 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: in with Ank Kwon Bolden and Larry for most touchdown 274 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: catches by rookie and team. 275 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 10: Hisstery pretty good company right there. 276 00:13:58,679 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 4: By the way. 277 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 5: Fits in attendance for the regular season finale on Sunday, 278 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: watching the Cardinals beat the forty nine Ers forty seven 279 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 5: twenty four. But he did not visit the broadcast booth. 280 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: And I'm guessing, Paul, based off your facial expression right now, 281 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 5: he did not come down to the sideline to say 282 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 5: hello to you. 283 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 7: You know, he was down on the sideline. He did 284 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 7: not say hello to Polly Pencilneck. You know, I mean, 285 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 7: he's a busy guy. 286 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: You know. 287 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 7: I didn't want to go up to him, make it 288 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 7: look like I was trying to get camera time because 289 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 7: they had him on the jumbo tron. 290 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to be that guy. 291 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 7: Dave was a little salty because I guess Larry hadn't 292 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 7: returned a few recent text messages and so, but it 293 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 7: was good to see Larry and to spell any notions 294 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 7: or rumors out there that he had let himself go 295 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 7: and had a beer. 296 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 6: Gut. 297 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 8: No. 298 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 7: He looks great. He's still in game shape. So I 299 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 7: just want to refute that he would. 300 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 6: He didn't tackle you or attempt to tackle you on 301 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 6: the sidehinds Paul. 302 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 7: It's too easy for me. Actually, he can't get down 303 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 7: that low anymore. WHOA, So it's a you know, I 304 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 7: make him on, you know, I mean the flexibility, the 305 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 7: dexterity isn't quite there in his advanced age, his post 306 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 7: playing day, so you know, just be go easy on 307 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 7: your back, Larry. 308 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 5: Larry I fits in attendance watching Marvin Harrison Junior not 309 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: only tie the franchise rookie record for touchdown receptions, but 310 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: also finished with the second most receptions and receiving yards 311 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 5: by a rookie and franchise history. Good season, solid season, 312 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 5: Maybe not the season we anticipated or thought he was 313 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 5: going to have as a first year player, the fourth 314 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: overall pick, number one wide receiver. But those numbers rob 315 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 5: look very good. 316 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the thing with statistics, right, you look at 317 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 6: him and you say, wow, he had a really good 318 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 6: rookie season, But when you match it with expectations going 319 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 6: into the season, I just don't think that they matched 320 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 6: in terms of the results. So it was a good 321 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 6: season for Marvin Harrison junior. You know, you look at 322 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 6: it as fourteen point three yards per reception, eight touchdowns, 323 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,479 Speaker 6: So he did some good things and I think especially 324 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 6: at the end the last couple of games especially, you know, 325 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 6: he's ending on a high note in terms of his 326 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 6: relationship and chemistry with Kyler Murray. A lot to work 327 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 6: on in the offseason still, you know, I think there's 328 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 6: things that he can work on in terms of route running, 329 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 6: in terms of separation, getting off the jams and and 330 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 6: really you know, working that route development. But a good 331 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 6: a good season. But you look at some games. You know, 332 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 6: the most receptions he had in a game were six 333 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 6: receptions in two games, and he had seven games where 334 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 6: he had either zero, one, two or three receptions. So 335 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 6: you got to you'd like to see that volume get 336 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 6: up there in terms of not only just targets, but receptions, 337 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 6: and that's something that they have to work on next season. 338 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: I think that's a fair assessment, and I think it's 339 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 5: an assessment that Marvin would agree with because we've heard 340 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 5: from him each and every week this season, Paul talking about, Yeah, 341 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: I can be better, I need to be better. 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 343 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 7: The catch to target ratio, you know, it improved as 344 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 7: the season went along, and it needed to. To Rob's point, 345 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 7: I mean there were games where he had quite a 346 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 7: few targets, you know, two catches on seven targets. Now, 347 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 7: was it always him and making plays on the football, 348 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 7: not necessarily? You heard Kyler say it in his final 349 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 7: press briefing, that is the downfield passing attack improved in 350 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 7: week seventeen. In Week eighteen to a certain degree. It 351 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 7: had to do with receivers being in the right place 352 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 7: at the right time. So there's no doubt that A. 353 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 7: He had to get his confidence. B he had to 354 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 7: learn how to read coverage. Remember we had our four 355 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 7: c's earlier in the year. Right, confidence, you know catching, 356 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 7: you know coverage. You got to read those coverages. You 357 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 7: got to be in the same page as your quarterback. 358 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 7: You have to read it like a quarterback, and so 359 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 7: I think that was part of the process. You didn't 360 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 7: see all these exotic disguises in college. That just didn't happen, 361 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 7: all the pre and post snap sort of antics that 362 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 7: the NFL is all about with disguises these days. So 363 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 7: that was something. And then the physicality of corner I 364 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 7: think that was the four seat cornerbacks. It's just a 365 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 7: different style. And guess what, sometimes you got to return fire. 366 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 7: You've got to be physical with these guys, especially at 367 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 7: the top of routes, to separate and they get yourself 368 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 7: between the dB and the football. 369 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 5: A solid first season. Now, what is the head coach, 370 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon think about Marvin's first year? 371 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 8: He was a premier player for US. He's going to 372 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 8: continue to be a premier player for US, and he 373 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 8: hasn't hit his ceiling yet. Now I look forward to 374 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 8: the offseason that he's about to go through. I look 375 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 8: forward to him getting back into building and playing to 376 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 8: the level that I want him to play, that you 377 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 8: guys want him to play, and that he wants to 378 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 8: play most importantly, and I know he's going to get there. 379 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 5: That's good to hear because a first offseason really a 380 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 5: first offseason with a team not coming off a college 381 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 5: year where you're basically going non stop. So that's going 382 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 5: to be good for Marvin Harrison Junior. You know about 383 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: Trey McBride, you know about James Connor. Okay, now, the 384 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 5: head of the offense is your quarterback. Kyle Murray just 385 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 5: completed his sixth season going into year seven. He's not 386 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 5: going anywhere. JG made that very very clear on Monday, 387 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 5: both to the media and on with Burns and Gambo. 388 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 5: K one is our quarterback in twenty twenty five. With 389 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 5: that said, and Kyler knows this because he said it 390 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 5: several times. He needs to be better in order for 391 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 5: this team to be better. 392 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 8: He's a top level franchise quarterback. And uh, he's played 393 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 8: like that. He's shown that. You know, he was in 394 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 8: there talking to me today. You know, we're kind of 395 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 8: going through some things this and that, and you know, 396 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 8: I think the best teams win, you know, so we 397 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 8: got to make sure we have the best team. And 398 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 8: he understands how he fits into that. 399 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 5: Hey, coach Jonathan Gannon talking about a conversation that he 400 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 5: had with Kyler earlier on Monday. 401 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 6: Yeah's similar to a conversation Craig, you and I had 402 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 6: off air before before this show, where you know, you 403 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 6: look at quarterbacks, you look at the top quarterbacks in 404 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 6: this league. You know, the five or six quarterbacks that 405 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 6: you can kind of identify as as the elite quarterbacks. 406 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 6: They're all in the playoffs, and they're all on really 407 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 6: good teams. So there's a strong team built around those quarterbacks. 408 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 6: And you know, I think that's that's where the Arizona 409 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 6: Cardinals want to go and are planning on going in 410 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 6: terms of just building up this roster around Kyler Murray, 411 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 6: because you know, the from a talent standpoint, he's he's special. 412 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 6: He can do some special things, especially when he runs 413 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 6: the football, and you haven't seen as much running from 414 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 6: Kyler Murray this year, but when he does that, that 415 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 6: really allows him to open up and and to do 416 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 6: some special things. So it's you know, it's it's a 417 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 6: it's a process that they're gonna have to go through 418 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: obviously in the offseason free agency and the draft, to 419 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 6: continuously turn over this roster, build this roster, make it 420 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 6: a better team. And I you know, I think I 421 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 6: think Kyler the way he ended this season is on 422 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 6: a high note and and it's got to feel good 423 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 6: about the team, has to feel good about where he's 424 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 6: at and where this team can go. Especially with Marvin 425 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 6: Harrison Junior going into second season. You get you get 426 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 6: everybody healthy. You know, there's some there's some good things 427 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 6: that can happen, especially going into next year. 428 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 7: When it comes to building a team around a quarterback, 429 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 7: I'll use Joe Burrow as an example. 430 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 4: This year. 431 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 7: What forty plus touchdown passes. I mean, he's right there. 432 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 7: If you want to talk about MVP's or most outstanding 433 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 7: player in terms of quarterback play, it is Josh Allen, 434 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson, and Joe Burrow is right there. Yet they 435 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,719 Speaker 7: had a terrible defense. Luan Rumo just got fired. The 436 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 7: old line was porous and banged up. They really didn't 437 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 7: have much of a run game. And guess what, they 438 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 7: just missed the playoffs, not don't like the Arizona Cardinals. 439 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 7: And seven of their eight losses were by a single score, 440 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 7: not nunlike the Arizona Cardinals. 441 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 4: So does Kyler have to be better? Yes? 442 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 7: Does the entire team have to elevate? Absolutely, the defense, 443 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 7: you build the offensive line from the inside out. You know, 444 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 7: you do have a top seven rush game and you're 445 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 7: a number two in yards per carry as an offense. 446 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 7: So the run game is there. Now it's trying to 447 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 7: fill in a few of the other blanks and really 448 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 7: improving as you go into year three. 449 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 5: It's year two, though, full season for Kyler Murray within 450 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 5: this offense. I mean, you got eight games a year 451 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 5: ago and with Sir, I think trying to figure out 452 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 5: what Drew Petsing wanted and what Kyler wanted within this offense. 453 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 5: And now we'll see what happens with Petsing. According to reports, 454 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 5: he is among the candidates to be available or to 455 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 5: speak with the Chicago Bears for their opening a head coach. 456 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 5: But now if Petsing is back and he doesn't get 457 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 5: a head coaching job, if he doesn't get the Bears 458 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 5: job or another job, he's coming back to b euroc 459 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 5: for a second full season and a second full offseason 460 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 5: to figure out, all right, this is what I envision. 461 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 5: What do you like, Kyler? What do we need to 462 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 5: work on to where we get more of a little 463 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: bit more of a balance in that PAS run game. 464 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, and just quickly going back to earlier, we were 465 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 6: talking about Marvin Harrison, junior, and what do we need 466 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 6: to do to improve the downfield connection with him? Some 467 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 6: of that goes to play calling, right you look at 468 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 6: Marvin Harrison junior and when he's most successful this year, 469 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 6: when he's been most successful, it's been on those crossing routes, 470 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 6: those deep crossing routes. See more of that, you know, 471 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 6: I think that's that's something that you know, we can 472 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 6: do as a as a team in terms of play 473 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 6: calling just to help out that connection. But yeah, the 474 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 6: games that the Cardinals were successful this season, that the 475 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 6: the ratio between run and pass it was minimal, I 476 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 6: mean in terms of the disparity and and just so 477 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: just that balance is something that this team strives for. 478 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 6: The way this offense is constructed, with the multiple tight 479 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 6: end sets and the play action pass, it really lends 480 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 6: itself to having a balanced attack. And when the running 481 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 6: game is not there and things get kind of out 482 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 6: of whack in terms of the passing attempts, you see, 483 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 6: you can you can you can identify it. The Cardinals 484 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 6: don't win those games when when they're throwing the ball 485 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 6: over to thirty five times a game, they're just they're 486 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 6: just not winning those games. 487 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 7: And would we say that trying to defeat the shell coverage. 488 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 7: Too high safety look is still something that needs to 489 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 7: be worked on by Kyler and the offense, regardless of 490 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 7: whether it's Drew Patsy or Cliff Kingsbury. Cardinals has seen 491 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 7: a lot of that. That seems to be the default 492 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 7: setting by defensive coordinators against Kyler Murray. 493 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 6: Well, it does, but that's kind of a league wide thing, Paul. 494 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 6: It's it's not unique to Arizona Cardinals. Most teams want 495 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 6: to keep two safeties high if they can, if they 496 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 6: can with their guys up front, if they can hold 497 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 6: up against the running attack and leave those safeties back, 498 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 6: they're going to do it. And other teams have navigated 499 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 6: and figured out how to work out successfully the passing 500 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 6: game with that too high safety look. So Arizona Arnolds 501 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 6: are going to continuously work on that in theom season. 502 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, teams have had no issues allowing yards between the twenties. 503 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 5: It's when you get inside the red zone. That's when 504 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 5: everyone buckles down. And I think that's the next step 505 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 5: for this offense get better in. 506 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: The red zone. 507 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 5: They were four to four on Sunday against the forty 508 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 5: nine ers, but again going back since the bye week, 509 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 5: less than forty percent inside the twenty yard line as 510 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 5: far as scoring touchdowns, So that's the next step offensively, Yeah. 511 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 7: We know KVB wants that speed receiver to that burner 512 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 7: to really stretch the field. 513 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: As well as far as defense. 514 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 5: Well, how about we touch on that next here on 515 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: the Arizona Cardinals Radio. 516 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: Network shotgun snap. Dobbs quarterback draw no running room, so 517 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: he cuts it left. Dobbs is taken down of the 518 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: ball came out, it's loose and recovered by the Cardinals. 519 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: Jalen Thompson. Taylor Demerson fors the fumble. Jalen Thompson comes 520 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: up with. 521 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 10: It Dandrian Taylor Demerson once again, remember of the name. 522 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 10: That youngster right there has grown so much this year 523 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 10: and all he does is make plays. 524 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 5: I have to go back, but I believe that's the 525 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 5: first game with both Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson healthy 526 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 5: in which Taylor Demerson aka Rabbit played significant snaps in 527 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 5: a game. So they found a way, based off of 528 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 5: what Rabbit was doing earlier in the season, to find 529 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 5: ways to get a young player on the football field. 530 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: And that was the one thing Robber As we say, 531 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 5: welcome back here to Cardinals Red Seat Report, Greg Raya, 532 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 5: lupal KELVC and Rob Frederickson. We do each and every 533 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 5: Tuesday eleven am here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 534 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 5: When JG was asked about position groups or players in 535 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: which he had a high opinion of or liked some 536 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 5: kind of paraphrase in what he said, but he pointed 537 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 5: to the secondary, whether that was the cornerbacks or the safeties, 538 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 5: the back end of the defense and how well they 539 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: played and the development of that unit from week one 540 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 5: to week eighteen. 541 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you start off with boot A Baker, right, 542 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 6: I mean, just absolute awesome season for Buddha Baker individually, 543 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 6: and he just you know, he in terms of tackles 544 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 6: and just where he was on the field and just 545 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 6: his ability to to find the ball wherever. It is 546 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 6: just an unbelievable all all Pro season type season for 547 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 6: for Buddha Baker. But the youth of this secondary and 548 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 6: especially at the cornerback position was really impressive. And just 549 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 6: the way these guys played, you know, Garrett, Garrett Williams 550 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 6: and STARTLINGK Thomas, those guys really played well, you know, 551 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 6: And and Taylor Demerson a rabbit. You know, when you 552 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 6: look at rookies and their impact on this team, I 553 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 6: think you know, when he didn't get a ton of snaps, 554 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 6: he didn't get a ton of opportunities, but when he 555 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 6: was in there, you can you can just tell. You 556 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 6: can tell a football player and what he does and 557 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 6: his impact on the game. And and Rabbit has had 558 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 6: a a huge impact when he's had opportunities this season. 559 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, seek and destroy. I mean every time he's in there, 560 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 7: going back to the preseason. Now, did he make his 561 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 7: share of mental mistakes here and there? If you listen 562 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 7: to the coaches, if you listen to Rabbit, yeah, it's 563 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 7: a very different game. He said that multiple times. I 564 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 7: talked to him one on one couple weeks ago. He 565 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 7: basically said the same thing to the media to start 566 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 7: this week right cleaning out the lockers. It's so different 567 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 7: than the defense that he played at Texas Tech. So 568 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 7: many more responsibilities. But his grandfather told him, when you 569 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 7: show up as a rookie, you need to do a 570 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 7: lot more listening than talking. And he was smart enough 571 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 7: to sit in the front row right next to JT 572 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 7: and Buddha and just listen and try and absorb and 573 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 7: get the football IQ. So you saw his steady improvement 574 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 7: over the course of the year. But he does have 575 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 7: sort of that Buddha esque run into the darkness, no fear. 576 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 7: He will come up and he will hit you. And 577 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 7: it is amazing how plays on the field have followed him. 578 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 7: Just his intensity and his zeal for the game, and 579 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 7: he goes all out. And I can see why Mania 580 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 7: Sport targeted him in the fourth round because he is 581 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 7: very similar to JT and Buddhat and just in his 582 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 7: style of. 583 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 5: Play always seems to find a way to be around 584 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 5: the football, and that again goes to the work that 585 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 5: you do during the week as far as film study 586 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 5: and then getting ready for game day. So you have Rabbit, 587 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 5: you have another rookie in Max Melton, and then two 588 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 5: second year corners in Starling Thomas and Garrett Williams. Speaking 589 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 5: of Garrett what he saw from the defense here in 590 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. 591 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 11: I think it's just everybody just trusting each other, you know. 592 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 11: I think just the coaches, you know, give us the 593 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 11: game plan and everybody just trusting that that guy's going 594 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 11: to be a hit spot. So it allows everybody just 595 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 11: to play their game and not try to be a superhero. 596 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 11: So when everybody just playing as one as a unit, 597 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 11: that's when things start to click a lot more. 598 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 5: You look at this defense robsonce week seven, top five 599 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 5: as far as scoring defense in the league, and if 600 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: you again very simple, keep the points down, you score 601 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 5: points going to win. And this is a defense that 602 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: didn't have, outside of Buddha, a major name attached to it. 603 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 5: It was a lot, as Garrett said, by committee shuffling 604 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 5: along the defensive line, outside linebacker, secondary. You saw a 605 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 5: lot of different players contribute this season, some by necessity 606 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 5: because of injuries, and others just because they played their 607 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: way out onto the football field. Yeah. 608 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 6: I think anytime you have a defense that's really good 609 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 6: in terms of scoring defense, they're going to be really 610 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 6: good in the red zone. And that's that's where things 611 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 6: tighten up. That's where those throwing lanes tighten up. And 612 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals defensively have done a good job of that. 613 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 10: You Know. 614 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 6: An interesting thing is when you look at the pressure 615 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 6: that's I think even leading into the season that was 616 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 6: a big question mark is where's the pressure going to 617 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 6: come from? Where are the sacks gonna where are the 618 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 6: sacks going to come from? The Airson Cardinals had the 619 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 6: most players with multiple sacks any team. I believe that, 620 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 6: you know, it's just a variety of players that you know. Now, 621 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 6: look it may have been two sacks or three sacks, 622 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 6: but you know, just the plethora of players that were 623 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 6: able to get pressure and had to I think Nick 624 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 6: Rowlands had to kind of scheme some things up, and 625 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 6: it was it was pressure by committee. And that's something 626 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 6: that obviously this offseason Arizona Cardinals are going to have 627 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 6: to address if they want to be more consistent defensively, 628 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 6: and that goes back to turnovers. You know, if you 629 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 6: want to create turnovers, you got to do it with pressure. 630 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 6: And to not have it consistently, to not have somebody 631 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 6: that you can just rely on to get that consistent pressure, 632 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 6: that makes things difficult. 633 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 7: Here's my question to you, because over the final eleven games, 634 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 7: the Cardinals allowed just under twenty points per game, and 635 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 7: when you go back to Week seven, only three teams 636 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 7: allowed fewer points per game. And even buddhas said recently, yeah, 637 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 7: earlier in the season, you know, we had some issues 638 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 7: fitting the run, We had issues affecting and getting to 639 00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 7: the quarterbacks cycling, yes, but in terms of freeing up 640 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 7: players to make plays and to ultimately affect the quarterback 641 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 7: and stop the run, which the Cardinals did a lot 642 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 7: better job in the last two and a half months 643 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 7: of the season. How much do you credit the defensive coordinator, 644 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 7: especially after you lose Justin Jones and Ball Nichols and 645 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 7: Dennis Gardak bgo Jalai. To what degree is Nick Rawlis 646 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 7: getting some sort of award for scheming it up, drawing 647 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 7: it up and figuring out a way to get his 648 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 7: players into position to make plays. 649 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 6: Well, he gets an enormous amount of credit. But you know, 650 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 6: some of those defensive linemen that you know, maybe weren't 651 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 6: getting their reps, weren't getting the snaps earlier in the season, 652 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 6: they showed up, you know, they they did. They Dante Stills, 653 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 6: you know, Roy Lopez, Nae J. Collier, Johns, these guys 654 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 6: you know that were kind of you know, after thoughts. 655 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 6: They came in and they played really well. But to 656 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 6: your point, Paul getting Buddha Baker closer to the line 657 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 6: of scrimmage, I think it was as big as anything 658 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 6: in terms of just the productivity of this defense is 659 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 6: something that he was playing deep middle a lot the 660 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 6: last few years, and to get him up into the 661 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 6: action I think had a sizable impact in terms of 662 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 6: the effectiveness of the defense. 663 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 7: By the way, and the Cardinals Underground podcast this week, 664 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 7: Rob's gonna want to tune in because we're going to 665 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 7: unveil the final results of nearly a season long Galvisi 666 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 7: Consulting polypigskin It Team investigation. What exactly did they do 667 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 7: to unlock Buddha Baker for a career season number two 668 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 7: in the NFL and tackles man think about that. It's 669 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 7: all linebackers and Buddha Baker. 670 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 4: How why? 671 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 7: What did they do? We got a few tidbits and 672 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 7: the results of our investigation coming up this week. 673 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 5: If that isn't a tease, I don't know what is now. 674 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 5: The person that unlocked Buddha Baker Nick rolis Hey coach 675 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 5: Jonathan Gennon on his defensive coordinator. 676 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 8: You know when I say we got a bunch of 677 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 8: guys in there that are going to be head coaches, 678 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 8: he's one of them. I know that just from a 679 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 8: development standpoint, from a schematic standpoint, about understanding the game, 680 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 8: about understanding defense, about understanding offense, and then he's ascended 681 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 8: extremely quickly. It's it's because he's talented. I'd say this, 682 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 8: I think I'm a hard worker. There's no one that 683 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 8: works harder than this guy, point blank. I mean he's 684 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 8: the hardest worker we got on our staff. And I'll 685 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 8: tell anyone. 686 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 5: That he looks talking about Nick Rolis at the first 687 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 5: what do he say, first eight games of the regular season, 688 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 5: he does that like now. I mean when the schedule 689 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 5: comes out. I mean he gets that far ahead in 690 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 5: his prep time as far as making sure he knows 691 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 5: everything about those individual teams for maybe the first half 692 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 5: of the upcoming season. So yeah, to JG's point, Yeah, 693 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 5: Nick Rollis works hard, works very hard. But does he 694 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 5: need some help? Does he need a player or to 695 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 5: kind of help the defense overall? Rob to take that 696 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 5: next step. It's already very good based off of maybe 697 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 5: more so the coaching than the talent on the f 698 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: But what's the next step? 699 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 4: Defensively? 700 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, I like what PAULI said earlier about building the 701 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 6: team from the ball out. I'm a big believer in that, 702 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 6: both offensively and defensively, So defensive tackles, defensive ends, edge rushers, 703 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 6: I mean I joke, but I say, if your hand's 704 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 6: not in the grass, I'm not drafting you. I mean, 705 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 6: and that goes offensively and defensively. This is going to 706 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 6: be a This is going to be a meat and 707 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 6: potatoes draft for me if I'm general manager. We can 708 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 6: get we can add some pieces here there of wide receivers, 709 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 6: some cornerbacks. We'll do that and we'll we'll sprinkle it 710 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 6: in free agency. But you know, I want to bring 711 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 6: in some ballers on the inside into your offensive line, 712 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 6: defensive line, edge rushers. It has to be addressed. It 713 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 6: has to be this team. If you want to build 714 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 6: a team around Kyler Murray, do it from the inside out. 715 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 7: And the low key big question I think this saw 716 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 7: season on the defensive side of the ball as well. 717 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 7: Is Kaiser White And what's his status? He just completed 718 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 7: a two year deal. He just put on his Instagram page, 719 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 7: thank you Arizona. What does that mean? We know he 720 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 7: is the quarterback of the defense. We know guys rave 721 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 7: about his ability to get the calls out instantly, make 722 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 7: all the checks and adjustments and just be so sound 723 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 7: in that regard. I mean, how often did you see 724 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 7: the Cardinals defense last two years out of position or scrambling. 725 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 7: You know, he saw a bit of that before the 726 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 7: arrival of Kaiser White. Calls getting out late guys, you know, 727 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 7: trying to make up ground to get in a position. 728 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 7: So that's an underrated part of his game. Not to mention, 729 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 7: he had over one hundred tackles this year and was 730 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 7: really reliable. And you know, for all the attention that 731 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 7: Fred Warner gets for example, and rightfully so, I guess 732 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,360 Speaker 7: I have my disdain for the forty nine ers and 733 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 7: the division opponents. You know, for everything Fred Warner can do, 734 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 7: here's what we found out again in Week eighteen. He 735 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 7: can't cover Trey McBride. He just can't do it. And 736 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 7: even Trey McBride told us in the postgame radio show, 737 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,359 Speaker 7: we got the look we wanted, we got the guy 738 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 7: in coverage we wanted, and we hit him for the 739 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 7: touchdown pass, which was very telling. 740 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, losing Kaiser White, potentially losing Kaiser White, and all 741 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 5: of a sudden, you lose the extension of the defensive 742 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 5: coordinator out on that football field, and sometimes that's hard 743 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 5: to replace, at least initially. But again, as we said, 744 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 5: this roster is going to look different. Maybe completely different. 745 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 5: In twenty twenty five, Garrett Williams on Monday on the 746 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 5: type of players that the Cardinals need to get over 747 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 5: the hump. 748 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 11: Guys who love ball, high character guys, but it's also 749 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 11: the thing of when his game time. 750 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 4: Guys who can turn it on as well. 751 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 11: And I think they've done a really good job of 752 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 11: bringing guys in like that, and only more people are 753 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 11: gonna come in. I think the goals of Super Bowl 754 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 11: and I think we're really building towards that. 755 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 5: Always goes back to team first. Will you put the 756 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 5: team ahead of yourself? And if you don't rob, then 757 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 5: all of a sudden, well there might not be room 758 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 5: for you here. 759 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 4: With the Arizona Cardins, you. 760 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 6: Know, there may have been times where players are out 761 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 6: of position defensively, but it wasn't because they were individuals 762 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 6: and playing as individuals and trying to do something on 763 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 6: their own. I think it was more than anything. It was, 764 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 6: you know, just just technique, technique errors or you know, 765 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 6: the talent maybe wasn't there. But these guys are bought in. 766 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 6: This is team first, and they got the right kind 767 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 6: of guys. They have the chemistry, they have, the culture, 768 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 6: they got to work on the talent, and that's something 769 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 6: that they'll build on in the offseason. 770 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 5: They certainly do have the tied end. Paul brought him up. 771 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 5: We'll discuss more. Trey McBride his year three next on 772 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 5: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. 773 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,439 Speaker 2: First intent of the thirty one of San Francisco Bunch 774 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: set to the right Murray quick throw to the right side, 775 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: caught by McBride at the thirty and he goes up 776 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 2: into the air, hurdles a defender and just about the 777 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 2: nineteen front first down a game at twelve, he tried 778 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 2: to jump over Gi year round. It kind of karate 779 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 2: kicked him as he did. 780 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, daniels Son. 781 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 9: Grows strong. 782 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 10: Grasshopper went up into the air and I he used 783 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 10: the right leg. It's a bit of a knee. 784 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: Maybe he's been watching the new season of Copra Kai. 785 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 2: That's out right now. I mean, that's bound to happen 786 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 2: when you try to hurdle a guy, right. I mean 787 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: the defenders are they're not falling for it anymore. They're 788 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 2: kind of backing away. But I guess if you don't 789 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: get jumped, you get knead right in the mouth. 790 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 10: Oh my goodness, gross strong. 791 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 5: Grasshopper, either the Karate Kid or UFC whatever was Trey 792 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:47,280 Speaker 5: McBride with the knee. There was also the uh carrying 793 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 5: of Fred Warner. I believe that was Trey McBride's first 794 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 5: catch on Sunday, where he had Warner on his back right, yes, 795 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 5: for a couple of yards and was not going right. 796 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 5: Fred Warner wasn't gonna be shaking off either. But that 797 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 5: was two interesting highlights for Trey McBride on Sunday. 798 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 7: You know, I went with kick Butt Kowski, which is 799 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 7: an old Disney cartoon from like twenty ten, twenty twelve 800 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 7: when my kids were young. Nobody got that. That was 801 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 7: that was an epic fail. Nobody got the kick butt 802 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 7: Kowski whatsoever. But you know, characters go around and just 803 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 7: you know, sort of kick his way to to be 804 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 7: in a superhero, you know it just anyway Craig gets 805 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,479 Speaker 7: all yours. 806 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 6: I don't know where to go with that one. 807 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're in an island on your own one. 808 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 7: No awareness of kick butt Kowski, now we talk about awareness. 809 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 7: The flying knee did catch the attention of everyone's favorite 810 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 7: good morning football host, Kyle Brandt, who made Trey McBride 811 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 7: well been a lot of accomplishments this season for Trey. 812 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 7: He added one more earlier on Tuesday. 813 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 3: He needs Trey McBride doing nasty things like he has 814 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 3: done all year long. Look out, look out, we have 815 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: lift off that is awesome? 816 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 10: Was that rooting? 817 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 3: Who's that? Or hey, muzzby doll, Oh my gosh, give 818 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 3: me a freeze framing McBride, who's not trying to jump 819 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: over the forty nine er, he's trying to jump through 820 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 3: them with physics freeze this thing. It looks as if 821 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 3: the tackler is trying to put him in the overhead bin. 822 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 3: But as you know, items tend to shift to during flight. 823 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 3: That is absolutely a look at his kneecaps all the 824 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 3: way up by his own ear. Trey McBride has done 825 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: awesome things this year. This is a player in the 826 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 3: last week of the season who knows he's not going 827 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:35,240 Speaker 3: to the playoffs and still wants to smash, smash some Niners. 828 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 3: McBride had a season. He's gotten next. I love Trey McBride. 829 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 3: He makes the Niners his bride and this will look out. 830 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 4: Let's go to the. 831 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: Bridezilla, Trey McBride, the scepter you were born to wield 832 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 3: this thing. Trade mcpride, you are currently in the offseason. 833 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 3: I don't know if you're in Tulu right now, God 834 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 3: bless you. If you are, We're gonna have to send 835 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 3: this to whatever tiki hut you're sitting over. You know what, 836 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: Tammie Pride's probably in the gym. He's probably getting gains, 837 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 3: he's probably lifted. What are you doing some declined press? 838 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: Trade you can add this to it. This is your 839 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 3: barn bell, this is your workout now. Trade McBride the 840 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 3: winner of agri Rons Week eighteen. Agri Ron Boom, Let's go. 841 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 5: Well deserved and well done. Kyle Brants the first career 842 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 5: scepter I believe for Trey McBride, and I think he's 843 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,439 Speaker 5: now trailing James Connor by at least two or three 844 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 5: because Jac's got a couple of those. Kyle Brandt loves 845 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 5: the ars on a Cardinals box. 846 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 7: Well, you know what just dawned to me. I should 847 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 7: have asked Trey McBride after the game if he learned 848 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 7: that move from Sugar Shan O'Malley, Because Sugar Sean was 849 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 7: here earlier. I wonder if he taught him like a 850 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 7: kickboxing type move. Is that where all the hurdles came from. 851 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 7: I don't know where the hurdles came from. But nobody 852 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 7: does him better than Tray McBride. I mean, he gets 853 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 7: so high with knee. You're right, Kyle Brandt was right. 854 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 7: It was up by his own ear. It's unbelievable athleticism 855 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 7: from Trey McBride. You've seen it all season. I mean, 856 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 7: one hundred and eleven on the year. To me, you know, 857 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 7: Trey McBride just at a you know, MVP. Yeah, of 858 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 7: the team. 859 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 6: I think so at least he's in a conversation probably 860 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 6: probably three guys that you could you could make an 861 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 6: argument for, but uh, Trey McBride is right up there. 862 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 6: And you think about the the you talk about the 863 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,320 Speaker 6: connection with Kyler Murray and Trey McBride seventy five percent 864 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 6: in terms of receptions to targets. That's that's that's a 865 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 6: good connection there. You juxtapose that with Marvin Harrison Junior 866 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 6: and it's like fifty three percent. So you know, there's 867 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 6: there's some things to work on there. But Trey McBride 868 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 6: has just had an unbelievable season. Interesting though the three 869 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 6: games is most productive games individually. The three games where 870 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 6: he's had double digit receptions all Cardinal losses, Wow, all 871 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,359 Speaker 6: and all after the bye, and he had he had 872 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 6: twelve receptions in each of them. You know, so I 873 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 6: you know, make of that what you what you will, 874 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 6: But I think it's probably because the Cardinals were throwing 875 00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 6: the ball so much. But yeah, when tre McBride has 876 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 6: double digit receptions this year, all three losses. 877 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 5: That's that's interesting and worth a deep dive this offseason 878 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 5: because you would think you want your number one playmaker 879 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 5: to be heavily involved, yet at the same time, maybe 880 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 5: you rely too much on one player. You need a 881 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 5: little bit more balance. 882 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 7: And considering the amount of defensive attention he gets, I 883 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 7: mean talking to him over the course of this year, 884 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 7: you know he lines up, he's feeling eyes on him 885 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 7: from all three levels of the defense. You know, they're 886 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 7: trying to chip him and chunk them. They're trying to 887 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 7: they're trying to you know, he got linebackers on him, 888 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 7: you got guys over the top. So you would think 889 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 7: that next year, more than ever, all the attention he's 890 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 7: going to get after a Pro Bowl campaign, it should 891 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 7: open up a lot more in the passing game for 892 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 7: other guys. 893 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,439 Speaker 4: Love that Rob gave us. 894 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 5: Some homework here on the Cardinals Red Zeer Report. Offseason 895 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 5: work to be done here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio 896 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 5: Network Case special Thanks behind the scenes, Jim Amhundro, Coudy Fincher, 897 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 5: Matt Lazareth for Ron Frederickson, Paul calBC. I'm Craig Reyalu. 898 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,439 Speaker 5: We will talk to you in one week's time. It's 899 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 5: the Cardinals Red Seer Report right here on the Arizona 900 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 5: Cardinals Radio Network. 901 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. 902 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride. 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