1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: And now moved the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody walking to move the sticks? Dj Bucket 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: here from the Beast play Room, four hour Tuesday pod. 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: What's up, buck what's going on? And how are you doing? 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I I be honest with you. This 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Monday night schedule, I've got now where I go to 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: bed early, get in here early, and watch the game 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: on tape as opposed to television. So you had a 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: big game last night, lines end up thrashing the Green 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Nowhearon Rodgers and big problems for the Packers. 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: But everything that I read before I got a chance 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: to watch the tape this morning was man, Brett Hunley's 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: terrible I went, I didn't hear this morning. I watched 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: the tape and I'm like, man, this isn't Brett Hunley's fall. 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: This it's a lot of other issues outside of the 16 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: quarterback here. Yeah, I didn't think he played that. I 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: felt like they waited a long time before they kind 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: of unleased him and allowed him to do things that 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: kind of played with a skill set. When they played faster, 20 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: when they got him in shotgun, when they allowed him 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: to kind of use all aspects of the field. He 22 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: did a pretty good job. I think the big thing 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: that we're seeing with the Green Bay Packers to me 24 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: is was telling Aaron Rodger's mess. So many flaws for 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: the Packers, like one quarterback, a franchise quarterback and elite 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: quarterback can really hide all of the issues that you 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: may have. We're seeing now that the Green Bay Packers 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: are flaws squad, but number twelve it's kind of like 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: the best deodorant that you can never have. Yeah, no, 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: it's a good word for it. I I just want 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: to watch huniy that the things the negative things is 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: some of the things that showed up. You saw U 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: c l A running out of some clean pockets. He 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: did that a couple of times. Didn't necessarily need to 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: do that. Had had a shot of of Jordy Nelson 36 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: down the seam well the nickel corner had kind of slipped, 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: had A had a nice shot down there for a touchdown, 38 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: and he built out of a clean pocket. Didn't see it, 39 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: but I looked in this game and I see a 40 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: deep ball he threw that was on the money that 41 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: was dropped. I saw him when they got him on 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: the move was outstanding and Buck. The weird thing is, 43 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: do you remember when Aaron Rodgers was coming out? He 44 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: was a Jeff Tedford thing, right. We held the ball 45 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: up by his ear and then he sat for all 46 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: that time under Brett far of the We got to 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: see him in action. He had loosened up a little 48 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: bit and look like a different guy if you watched 49 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: Brett Hunley. I know the results are not the same 50 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers, but he has morphed his footwork and 51 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: his delivery. He looks just like him. It looks just 52 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: like him. Even though where he sets up in the 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: shotgun with the kind of a staggered stance, it was. 54 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: It was kind of creepy. And I give Hunley a 55 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: lot of credit that he's been He's been studying the 56 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: best in the game and Aaron Rodgers, and he's kind 57 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 1: of trying to mimic him a little bit. Now. The 58 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: results aren't there, they're not the same. But I think 59 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: the people that are trying to say that he was 60 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: awful in this game are are not well informed. Yeah, 61 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I think I don't think it was. 62 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: I think there's so many other issues that you could 63 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: point to. You can talk about Davontae Adams not coming 64 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: up with a couple of big balls that would have 65 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: helped the Packers. You can talk about their defense and 66 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: not being able to solve the riddle Matthew Stafford, Golden Tate, 67 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: and Marvin Jones, and so before you really can lay 68 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: all the blame on Brett Hunley for not getting done, 69 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: I just think the Packers and all the other aspects 70 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: of the team haven't necessarily played up to expect a. Um, yeah, 71 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be interesting to see how they go 72 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: into the offseason and address some of the needs that 73 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: they have, because there are a bunch of them. I 74 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: wanted to uh quickly jump into another topic here before 75 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: we get some college stuff and just a little bit, 76 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: but looking at the NFL right now as it stands, 77 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: looking at the last place team, so I'm gonna rattle 78 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: off the teams are in last place in each division, 79 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: and I want to say, on the shock factor, if 80 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: you give me like the two or three that you're 81 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: the most shocked of that are currently past the halfway 82 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: mark here sitting in the last place. We got the Jets, 83 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: the Browns, the Colts, the Broncos, the Giants, the Bears, 84 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Niners. Bucks and the Giants. There 85 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: are two teams that I'm most surprised at, Uh the Giants. 86 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: I thought they had all of the makings of a 87 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl squad when they brought over Brandon Marshall to 88 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: go with Sterling Shepard and Odell Beckham Jr. I thought 89 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: that defense would continue to play at a high level, 90 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: and even though they didn't bring in a Marquee runner, 91 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: I thought teams would play a lightbox because they were 92 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: so fearful of that asking game that allowed them to 93 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: have balance and be able to run the football effectively. 94 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: But none of those things have happened. Offensively, they have struggled. 95 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Even when they had O'Dell Beckham Jr. They still couldn't 96 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: put the ball into paying consistently. And then defensively, I 97 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: think they've discouraged their team that now is looking like 98 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: a team that doesn't want to tackle. They're disengaged. You 99 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: have guys who've been suspended in multiple weeks, and so 100 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: I just think it's a problematic. I'm just surprised because 101 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: I thought the Giants would have been the best team 102 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: in the NFC's Yeah, that's the bigger one for me. 103 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we both talked about them being super Bowl contenders. 104 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: Giants would be the big shock um Denver. I come 105 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: back to Denver. We talked about them a little bit 106 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: on the on the Takeaway podcast. Man, they you know, defensively, 107 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: it's it's still it's it's a playoff caliber team for sure, 108 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: and it's and really I think if they have some offense, 109 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I think you say it's a super Bowl caliber defense 110 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: once again. But they are so they've been so bad 111 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: upfront offensively and so average, too bad at the quarterback position. 112 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: I think that does affect their defense. But even and 113 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: that being said, Denver to be sitting where they are 114 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,239 Speaker 1: right now, I think is is a pretty big surprise. 115 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: A big surprise. This is a team that you know, 116 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: we we thought they had fixed the offensive line, maybe 117 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: getting Gary Bowls, trying to upgrade some of the guys 118 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: they brought in free agency, that they would be a 119 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: more effective team running the ball, because we knew Trevor 120 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: Simon needed that balance, he needed to run a game 121 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: to take some of the pressure off of him. And 122 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: when they don't have that balance, like the quarterback play 123 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: that they've gotten thus far as Sammy and then even 124 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: saying Oswallet, those guys can't necessarily carry the load and 125 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: the defensively, I think we're seeing some signs of slippage. 126 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: I know we can talk about them being discouraged because 127 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: of the offense, but I think we're beginning to see 128 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: that they were a little older in the back end. 129 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Chris Harris keep to leave. We've seen him more big 130 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: plays hit over the top of those guys. I think 131 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: this window is closing quickly, and if they don't fix 132 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: the offense soon, it would be a done deal in Denver. 133 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: By the way I got I got word from some 134 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: folks that that Lane Johnson had seen the uh see 135 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: either seen our matchup video or heard about our matchup video, 136 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: and that it was motivation really them against von Miller 137 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: last week, and I wanted to kind of let everybody 138 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: know what was up. And he played really well. But 139 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: I went back and watched he actually played really really 140 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: well against Vaughan Miller. Look, we've said it, he's, if 141 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: not the best, one of the best right tackles in 142 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: the NFL. But yeah, look just point out, hey, every 143 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: now and then he ducks his head and he's gotten 144 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: in trouble. Lane Lane got fired up about that, and 145 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: he wanted to go out there and do his thing. 146 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 1: What was brought up to me that was interesting point, 147 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: the whole right tackle left tackle thing. Throw it out. 148 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: When you look at where everybody's rushing now, right tackle, 149 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: why move him when you're gonna see he saw von Miller. 150 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 1: He's gonna end up seeing or I think he's already 151 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: seen Jpp who rushes from that side. He's gonna see. 152 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna see Kalil mac they played the Raiders. Um, 153 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: he's gonna see all those guys. Yeah, you can, you 154 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: can eliminate that. That that old thing idiom premier guys, 155 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: premier pass rushers blind side and they go on both sides. Um, 156 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: it's the thing that has been popularized of late. We're 157 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: seeing Khalil Mack. You talk about von Miller, Jpp. Those 158 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: guys are lining up at left defensive and so they 159 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: could take advantage of right tackle. So now teams are 160 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: tasked with trying to find a way to come up 161 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: with basically two guys who have the athleticism and the 162 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: footwork of a premier left tackle, but they have to 163 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: put them on each side. Yeah, so it's uh, throw 164 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: that throw that one out the window. Um what I 165 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: wanted to get to next year. But before we get 166 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 1: to some college stuff, we've we've talked all the time 167 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: this whole year, the whole the biggest storyline I think 168 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: of the year has been golfing once in the and 169 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,119 Speaker 1: the way those two second year quarterbacks have been playing 170 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: and where they've got their football teams. But when you 171 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: go back and look at it, both those teams made 172 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: bold moves to move up for those quarterbacks, which is 173 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: the fact they went one and two. They traded up 174 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: to go get them. So when I'm looking at the 175 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: draft order, you go to nfl dot com right now, 176 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: you can find what the draft order would be if 177 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: the season ended the day. Obviously we'll have some changes, 178 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna give you the teams because it would 179 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: cost a lot, I think to go from eleven. You know, 180 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: let's stay anywhere from eleven fifteen, let's even let's lower 181 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: a little. We'll go we'll go eight. Let's go like 182 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: seven or eight, seven or eight to fifteen, and then 183 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: just tell me a team you think would make sense. 184 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: Maybe they're a team that fast forward to the draft. 185 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: They're they're the bold ones to go ahead and say 186 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna trade a bunch, go up there and get 187 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback. So i'll give you who's picking here. The 188 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: Browns second pick would be seventh, but they right now 189 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: on the second pick. Uh, Chargers, Broncos, Bears. We know 190 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: the Bears are out of the quarterback market after last year. Um, 191 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: so take them out of the mix. Now we get 192 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: to pick number eleven, the Ravens, the Jets. The Raiders 193 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: they're not going to be in the market, and the Cardinals. 194 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: There are some interesting teams with older quarterbacks there. If 195 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 1: you want to follow the blueprint of what the Eagles did, 196 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: what the Rams did, and say let's be bold, let's 197 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: go up and get it done. I think the Jets 198 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: could be in consideration. I don't know how much ammunition 199 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: they have to give to give up, but I think 200 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: the jetz could be a team that is finally looking 201 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: to find one of those quarterbacks. And let's let's say it, 202 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: they'll probably be three quarterbacks that will carry top ten grades, 203 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: and so the fight is trying to figure out which 204 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: one do you like? Who is the bottom of that? Like, 205 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: who's the floor and how high do we have to 206 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: get to get that? And so based on how quarterbacks 207 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: have been valued, based on the Golf and Wents conversation, 208 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: because I know there's always a trickle down effect. So 209 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: when they went up to get those two quarterbacks, they 210 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: were kind of laughed at. They were criticized, all those 211 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: guys worth it when now that they've seen, um, the 212 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: fruits of their labor, other teams are like, you know what, 213 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: if I like a quarterback, I'm just gonna go ahead 214 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: and get it, and I don't care what they say, 215 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: because if he makes us right, it's worth everything. So 216 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: I think you have to get in that high cut. 217 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: I think you have to be in the top five 218 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: to maybe get one of those three, which I wouldn't 219 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: say that those are the three or the five best 220 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks three or the five best players in football, but 221 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: if you want one, I think you have to go 222 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: in the top five to make sure you get one. 223 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: How about the Baltimore Ravens at eleven. Let's say they 224 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: end up picking seven, seven, eight, nine, ten, somewhere in 225 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: that range. When can they get out from up under 226 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: the Flacco deal? The finances you have to look into that, 227 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: but just in terms of going forward and finding a 228 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: young quarterback to try and start a rebuild. It kind 229 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,439 Speaker 1: of feels like this is this is a team that 230 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: might be headed towards a rebuild. Sucks man, he was 231 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: hanging on trying to get one more. He's played well 232 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: this year's his credit, but this I don't know how 233 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: much more he's he's got left. So they're kind of 234 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: they're kind of due for a rebirth here. They are 235 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: um a thing to be tough for him. They do 236 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: need to find a way to deal with or answer 237 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco question because this year, of all years, 238 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: we all knew what he was, but now you rob 239 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: him and strip him clean of everything. Yeah, he can't. 240 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: He can't get it done, plain and simple. Yeah. I 241 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: mean it's it's really disappointed. He just can't. He can't 242 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: make enough plays. And I felt like even in his 243 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: hey they doing his best years, ray Rice bailed him 244 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: out of a lot of situations because forever against Chargers, Yeah, 245 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: every year, I felt like the Ravens always started off, 246 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna make this Joe Flacco's team. We're gonna pass, 247 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: and then about week eight when they need to win, 248 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: they started handing the ball to ray Rice and that 249 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: would give them enough to get into the playoffs and 250 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: maybe make a run. Now, he doesn't have that security 251 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: blanket at running back, and he hasn't had it for 252 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: the last couple of years we've seen this has been 253 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: a five int draw below team. He hasn't played at 254 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: a high level. And I believe you seriously have to 255 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: think about, Man, can't we get over to hump with 256 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: this guy's a quarterback? All right? Then the last point 257 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: on the draft here and then we'll move on to 258 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: some college stuff. But as it stands right now, this 259 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson injury obviously the worst thing that could ever 260 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: happen to the Texas. What a gift to Cleveland Browns. 261 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: Oh they needed it, but they they're right now the 262 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: season and today they're picking two and seven, number two 263 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: pick in the draft and the number seven pick in 264 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: the draft. And I believe they have their second two 265 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: from the Ostweiler trade, which looks like a really high two. Yeah, 266 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: but who's picking. It doesn't matter what he's picking, Like, 267 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do with it? Like probably trade 268 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: them back and get eight team more picks. And that's 269 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: the year I'm begging them, do not trade back. They 270 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: they get to show how smart they are. You know 271 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: the phrase we talked about with quarterbacks pick and stick. 272 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: They need to stick and pick they need to flip 273 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: it around. I mean, I don't know. I mean they 274 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: could end up having four the top thirty five, thirty 275 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: six picks in the draft. I just don't have a 276 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: lot of confidence right now as it stands, I don't 277 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence no matter who they bring 278 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: in at quarterback. And I don't even know how you 279 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: can tell what you need a quarterback because you haven't 280 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: really played the quarterback that you drafted in the second round, Like, 281 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: how can you have a true evaluation for what you 282 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: have when they haven't done that? So say they go 283 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: and get another quarterback, I mean they're gonna mess them up. 284 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: So now you have a second year quarterback that was 285 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: a two, you have a first year quarterback who's a one, 286 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: a third year quarterback who's the three. I mean that 287 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: just means in two thousand nineteen they get a four. 288 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: It's a cycle. Is unbelievable. I don't know. There's something 289 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: to be said though, for just keep going back into 290 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: the well until you hit on one I guess worked out. 291 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, man, Yeah, they could be in. 292 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: They could be sitting prettier Texans if the Texans going 293 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: to slide here with Tom Savage, which very real possibility, 294 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: top top five picks. Man, if that doesn't convince you 295 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: of what Deshawn's value was to that team, I don't 296 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: know what a different offense. They don't even have the 297 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: same offense Jez completely different. I mean Tom Savage, man. 298 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,599 Speaker 1: And I know there's some apologists and guys that have 299 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: been waiting for Tom Savage to be the unicorn that 300 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: he was built up to be prior to the Jake. 301 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: But I think we can kind of put all that 302 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: craziness to bid when they we have three of the 303 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: last four plays he didn't either keep the ball on 304 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: the court or or he got sacked with the game 305 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: on the line. Was the shot one catchable ball? Um, 306 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: all right, let's let's move over to some college stuff. 307 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Talking about Deshaun Watson. The offense they were running gets 308 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: me into studying Baker Mayfield this week this morning, got 309 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: in here and and popped on some tape and did 310 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: some more work on him. And he's one of those 311 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: guys Bucky. I gotta be honest, the more that I 312 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: watched Baker Mayfield, the more that I like him. And 313 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: I know they don't play defense in the Big twelve. 314 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: I know there's some big windows, but I see somebody 315 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: that's working through progressions. I specifically wanted to watch him 316 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: to see is he how's he moving in the pocket 317 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: because Manzel that was kind of the big concern with 318 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: him was any time pressure came, he was a magician. 319 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: He'd get out of trouble. And you see some of 320 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: those highlight plays from Mayfield doing the same things, run around, 321 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: making things happen. I want to see him shuffle, slide, climb, 322 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: do those things inside the pocket, stay in there and 323 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: make throws. And I saw it. I saw him do 324 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: those things better than what Manzel did in terms of 325 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: functioning inside the pocket. And I think he's I'm gonna 326 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: go to their game this weekend against t c U, 327 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: so I'll come back next week. Can give you a 328 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: better a better idea. But it looks like the ball 329 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: jumping out of his hand too. Yeah, I think he 330 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: spends it pretty well. Um. I see him as a 331 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: guy that UM has a lot of moxie, a lot 332 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: of grit, kind of feisty. Um. The intangible qualities are 333 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: certainly damn which you look for. UM undersize in terms 334 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: of how from an ideal franchise. So they estimate, they 335 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: estimate him. They don't have official but the scouts went 336 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: to the estimate him at six oh six, So you're 337 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: talking about under six one, a little bit under sixth one, 338 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: and literally I think he was listening at like two 339 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: oh three to a four. Yeah, he's not he's not. 340 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: He's not a big guy. And I'm gonna saying this. 341 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he's an explosive athlete. I think Johnny 342 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: Manzel was a more explosive runner and playmaker than Baker Mayfield. 343 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, however, is a much more advanced passer than 344 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: Johnny was in terms of like being disciplined with his footwork, 345 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: his pocket, presidence, his release. He can make the throws 346 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: that you want to see him make. You know, I've 347 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: compared him to a couple of different guys. I've compared 348 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: him to Tyrod Taylor in essence, I think, I mean, 349 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: that's not a slight to Tyrode or Debaker Mayfield. I 350 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: see him playing in their vein. I also had a 351 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: little Jeff Garcia in his game, kind of athlete to 352 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: get the ball out. I don't think his arm is 353 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: as big as I've seen that the Russell Wilson comparison. 354 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: I just don't think his arm is a bit. But 355 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: I haven't seen what. I haven't seen him because I 356 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: think I would think I was. I think I was 357 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: a little hard on his arm strength when I watched 358 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: him over the summer, and when I've watched him this year, 359 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: it looks like he's got a little more pace and 360 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: little more giddy up on. I've seen him squeezing balls in. 361 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: So again, we always say with quarterbacks, you gotta go 362 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: see him throw live to get a feel for that. 363 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: Russell Willson had a huge arm. Yeah, that that was 364 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: the big thing. You know. I think he's got plenty. 365 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: I think he's got enough. I just don't know if 366 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: I can say it's a huge arm. I'll let you 367 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: do the other thing. That would be interesting when we 368 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: get down to it. Um, he's running up these numbers 369 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: against Big twelve competition, and last year at the Combine, 370 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: how many Big twelve guys were there like twelve to fifteen, 371 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: So from a competition standpoint, how many pros are he throwing? 372 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: Is he throwing against? You know, what's gonna be the 373 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: the answer to that, It's gonna be seven for thirty, 374 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: five for three eighties, six three touches against Ohio State 375 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: on the road and at night. I mean, that's a 376 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: nice answer. That's that's gonna be the NFL dudes on 377 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: that defense. NFL does on that defense. And then the 378 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: other thing to that will be when we go back 379 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: and we track and monitor that what was he actually throwing? 380 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, yeah, So I'm not I'm not being 381 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate because I actually like Baker. I think Baker 382 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: has a chance. I think in the right offense, I 383 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: think he can be a pretty good player. I don't 384 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: think he's in that class of the big three that 385 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: we've talked about, but I do think he's in the 386 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: conversation kind of where I would think the guy that 387 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: he maybe models his game after he win, and that 388 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: would be Drew Brees who went on top of the 389 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: second I think I see him as that kind of 390 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,239 Speaker 1: player from a draft value. But the guys that the 391 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: top of the second guys now were the middle of 392 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: the first guys. That's just the way. It's just a 393 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: bump up. You get it is? Oh, can we get that? 394 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: Can we get the DJ says Baker Mayfield is a 395 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: first round pick? Can we make that the you wanna 396 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: make that the video? Make that the video. I'll put 397 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: him this way. I'll put it this way. I've yet 398 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: to see him play a lot that'll take place this week. 399 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: What I've studied, what I studied, No, no, you get 400 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: the clicks what I studied this morning. Assuming he comes 401 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: in over six ft tall, he will be a first 402 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: round pick in my opinion. There you go. I like that. 403 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, is that good enough? I can see that. 404 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying this, we're speaking the same thing 405 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: where he gets picked and how he plays. I'm saying 406 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: this so if it's a borderline first second round player, 407 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: that means he is a starter in the league. I 408 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: do believe he can be a starter in this league. 409 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: And remember Derek Carr went thirty four, and I think 410 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: I think that that has led. I think you look 411 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: at the Derek Carr and I think you look at DAC. 412 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: I think some people we gotta push these guys up now. 413 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: And I think there's something to be said for how 414 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: those guys have played. I think when you bring the 415 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: Dack example, you bring the Derek Carr example, and not 416 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: only taking them, but how they were surrounded. If you 417 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: think about Derek Carr in particular, Amari Cooper comes right 418 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: after they get Michael Crabtree, so they have to legitimate 419 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: wide receivers. They get the best offensive line outside of 420 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: Dallas UH to support him, and Yeah, Derek Carr has 421 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: played a remarkable level. I think for Baker Mayfield, if 422 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: he goes mid to bottom of first, top of a second, 423 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: he'll have an opportunity to be a pretty good player, 424 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: provided that he has the right kind of stuff around you. 425 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: Let me get you excited about the Let me get 426 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: you excited about the Senior Bowl here. Your Bucky's so 427 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: excited because we're seeing that man. Come on, not only that, 428 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: but Dusty Rose. No, but that's all my area wcwhyeah. 429 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: I watched a lot of that too as a kid 430 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: Saturday mornings. I couldn't loved it. I can't wait to 431 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: see Jim Cornett um the Senior Bowl. Let me get 432 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: you excited for the Senior Bowl here, real quick, rosters 433 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: don't have just just I'm spit bowling here. Quarterback wise, 434 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: this All Star games are only as good as quarterbacks. 435 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: M Josh Allen, if he can graduate early, could be there. 436 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: You could have a Senior Bowl with Josh Allen, Baker, Mayfield, 437 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph, Luke falk Um, and then you got Ben 438 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: Kirk down at uh at u v A. That's a 439 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: good group. But that's a good handful of quarterbacks right there. 440 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: Normally get to the Senior Bowl. You're you're hoping, man, 441 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: I hope we have a couple of guys that a 442 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: great group. That is a great group that will be 443 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: out standing to see that mean he got those many 444 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: guys kind of show up, um and play and get 445 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: a chance to get around him, to kind of wash 446 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: him back to back to back spin it. Um. How 447 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: about Finley? Have you looked at him yet? From NC State? 448 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: I have looked at him. I heard he's a little 449 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: bit older, so he might be somebody to keep an 450 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: eye on that could end up could end up coming 451 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: out former boys. The state transfer falled. His offensive coordinated 452 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: down to NC State. Um. I mean prior to the 453 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: last week he had been on an incredible round without 454 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: an interception, maybe two twenty nine throws without a pick um. 455 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: When I watched him, ball comes out quick. He does 456 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: a great job of playing small ball. They do kind 457 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: of like an old dink and duck offense. Don't turn 458 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: it over, don't put it in harm's way, and he 459 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: plays very effectively in that UM. To me, I see 460 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: a guy that is more of a managerial type, a 461 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: guy that you need to have all the stuff around him, 462 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: and he can be a maybe a high end truck, 463 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: high end trailer, not a high end trailer, like if 464 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: you got the stuff around him, I think he can 465 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: be accessibule. But is he a game changer. No, but 466 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: he's certainly a winning quarterback that you can build around 467 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: as a young guy that you want to develop. And 468 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: to that point, I think there are two other guys 469 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: that could probably go into conversation because I wrote about 470 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: these guys a couple of weeks ago. He was one. 471 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Roley Ferguson from Memphis is another. Um. It's kind of 472 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: a gun slinger, can throw it all over the yard. 473 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: He's not a senior, is he? Yes? Yes, Um? And 474 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: then Will Greer from West Virginia will be another one. 475 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: To kind to keep an eye on those three guys. 476 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: Are kind of guys that I've kind of lumped in 477 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: that developmental prospect ben, which could be anywhere from third 478 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: to fifth round. But you can see those guys rose 479 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: and fall based on how they can continue to finish 480 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: their season and what they do in the off season. 481 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: So that's not a bad not a bad group of quarterbacks. 482 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: Could have there an All Star game. No, not not 483 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: at all, not at all all. Right, let's get real quick. 484 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: In the last week's games, we talked about the Big 485 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: Twelve a little bit, that Oklahoma Oklahoma State game was 486 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: a total shootout. Anything else surprised you from the week 487 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: at all? Buck? I mean Ohio State getting absolutely thrashed 488 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: by Iowa. I was surprised by that. That would surprise me, 489 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: to say the least. And then the Hurricanes maybe Reggie, 490 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: Maybe Reggie's onto something there, although if you poured truth 491 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: serum down Reggie Wayne's throat, he would tell you that 492 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: we're a year away. Yeah. I think so. They are undefeated, 493 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: they continue to win games, but man, there when the 494 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: least impressive undefeated squads that we're talking about maybe getting 495 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: into the playoff, Uh, this would be a big week 496 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: for them seeing them play gainst Notre Dame. Notre Dame 497 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: is gonna hit him in the face, but they get 498 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: him at home. Uh, we'll get a chance to see 499 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: if the U is back. This is a huge week 500 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: for all the Hurricanes. Has been a while since they've 501 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: been relevant, and I think, let me give you this 502 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: this thought here. Say we get into the playoff, Alabama 503 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: is a one in Oklahoma is a four. I look Alabama, 504 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I know they're they don't want to see them now. 505 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: They didn't want to see them because typically they don't 506 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: do well against teams that are playing up tempo, and 507 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: they have a pretty dynamic quarterback, meaning that they can 508 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: hurt you a little bit with their legs but also 509 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: make plays with their arm, the extended plays of Since 510 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: you're Alabama fan, you don't want that game, and now 511 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: you want to make sure you get the right seed. 512 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: You you don't want to play Oklahoma. It'll be interesting 513 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: to see Oklahoma's defense against Alabama. Alabama run it down 514 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: their throats. I don't doubt that. I do not doubt that, 515 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: but you better not turn it over because Oklahoma's gonna 516 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: score in about fast break. Um, Yeah, that would be interesting. 517 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: What's thinking about that? Potential matchup down the line. Um 518 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: other ones that stood out trying to look down through 519 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: here Texas A and m Buck. I think that's oh, Donzo, Yeah, 520 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I think that's if you're If you are Kevin Summon 521 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: right now, you are, you're watching every Arizona State game 522 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: for the rest of the Year's going Come on, man, 523 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: just just to lose a couple. That's my spot. My 524 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: next game. It might be a spot. But that buyout 525 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: to Tige Graham has his huge how is that possible? Huge? 526 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: He got them right. If they had a good year, 527 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: they went to I think it went to a championship game. 528 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: I would love to know what's going through these A 529 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: D S minds. You can't lose my guy. You know, 530 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know what the sales pitches, you know recruiting, 531 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, this recruit needs to know that I'm on 532 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 1: a five year extension. If he thinks I'm just on 533 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: a three year contract, he's not gonna come here. No 534 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: recruit has ever looked at the length of a contract 535 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: for a coach and made a decision. Ever, it's the 536 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,400 Speaker 1: dumbest thing. I want to know my guy's gonna be here, 537 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: stupid guy. So dumb um. All right, last last thing 538 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: I want to hit on the college games from the weekend. 539 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: Texas makes a change, right, Charlie Strong, Oh yeah, Tom, 540 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: Tom Herman. A lot of hype, a lot of hype. 541 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring you back. I'm looking down. This team 542 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: is ready four and five. Remember Charlie on the walk off, 543 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: didn't he have the walk off? Said whoever comes in 544 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: here walking in, he's gonna get ten wins next year. 545 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: She'd be able to I'm waiting for those ten. I 546 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: don't think they have enough games on the wait for 547 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: those ten? Think they have enough? And what happened to 548 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 1: my quarterback? So they went from Bouschell to Ellener for 549 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Ellender was like the guy, the gritty, 550 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: the moxie hook him. Now they backed the beut ship. 551 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's hurt or not. I have 552 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: I have not watched a lot of Long Hord football 553 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks. I just see the 554 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: losses piling up. But this is just just because your 555 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: heartbroken because you picked him. You picked him in some game. 556 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: I picked him in I picked him to beat Oklahoma 557 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: rivalry game. They had a shot didn't get it. You're 558 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: going anywhere this week? Were you watching this week? Anything good? No, 559 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm just hanging. I'm just gonna sit back and I'm 560 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: watch Notre Dame in Miami because that's the marquee game. 561 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that. One would be good 562 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: to one pretty good slate this weekend again, I'm gonna 563 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: head out to Norman, Oklahoma. Go check out the Sooners 564 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: and the horn Frogs. See what don't don't forget to 565 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: watch the other quarterback trill Oh, Kenny trill Hill. They 566 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: got a back actually called the scout on away in 567 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: this morning today, t see you what I need to 568 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: look at? He said, just watch the running back. This 569 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: is their best dude. I got a couple offensive tackles there, 570 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: developmental guys, but really it's the running back, so check 571 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: him out. Tight end from Oklahoma has got some buzz. 572 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: Watched Orlando Brown Jr. He looks he looks a little 573 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: bit like Pops goes around his dad with the Ravens. 574 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: He's nasty, probably gonna kick over to the right side 575 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: at the next level. But good player. But let's be honest, 576 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm going there to see Baker. It's all about Baker. 577 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: It's all about Baker, all right. Hey, let's uh, let's 578 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: get out here. Nice quick, swift episode today, Chris stepping 579 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: in for for Sulley. Chris, thank you so much. Nicely done, guys, 580 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: Chris runs a tight ship over stop watching, don't all right, 581 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: we're a fishing all right, Let's get out of here again. 582 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Thanks everybody for listening, Thanks for downloading, Thanks for leaving 583 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: us a review on iTunes. 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