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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on.

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Speaker 3: A Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for making us a part of your afternoon and

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Speaker 3: big day here at One Bill's Drive. As you most

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Speaker 3: of you probably know already because Bill's owner Terry paula

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Speaker 3: GM and Director of football Operations Brandon Bean addressed the

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Speaker 3: media for the first time since the firing of head

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Speaker 3: coach Sean McDermott on Monday. After thanking coach mc germid

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Speaker 3: for his contributions to the success of the team over

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Speaker 3: the last nine years, mister Pogula explained how the atmosphere

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Speaker 3: in the postgame locker room after the loss to Denver

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Speaker 3: struck him in such a way that he felt the

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Speaker 3: team had hit a proverbial playoff wall. He did not

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Speaker 3: see a way forward with the current leadership of the team.

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Speaker 3: He believed they could do better and felt a change

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Speaker 3: was necessary to bring in a new voice to get

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Speaker 3: this team over the playoff hunt and to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: So that was probably the defining answer of what amounted

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Speaker 3: to about a forty to forty five minute press conference today.

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Speaker 4: It was obvious too that in the past playoff shortcomings

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Speaker 4: have you know, were tacked onto all of that as well.

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Speaker 4: And in the I don't know, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: it was an emotional decision or not. Certainly it's hard

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Speaker 4: not to have those kind of feelings when you walk

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Speaker 4: into a locker room like that. I've been a part

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Speaker 4: of those locker rooms. But no question it did. It

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Speaker 4: was either it was the final straw anyway, And when

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Speaker 4: he looked, when he took a moment there, this is

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Speaker 4: what my take on it. He did a he did

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Speaker 4: an evaluation over the last six or eight or nine

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Speaker 4: years of Shawn's tenure here and said, man, I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: sick of having the season end like this, and it

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Speaker 4: ends like this every single year. We need to change.

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Speaker 4: And that's well part and parcel of what happened.

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Speaker 3: And there was a very visceral, visceral reaction in the

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Speaker 3: Interpreted the emotions of not just Josh Allen, but Dion Dawkins,

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Speaker 3: even Brandon Cooks who had been here all of six weeks,

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Speaker 3: all of them moved to tears. It was a visceral

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Speaker 3: reaction he had not witnessed before and perhaps he interpreted

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Speaker 3: that as a breaking point for this team under this leadership.

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Speaker 3: Mister Pegoula maintains the belief that the roster has more

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Speaker 3: than enough talent to achieve a Super Bowl berth and

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Speaker 3: credits the personnel department to accumulating that talent. Brandon Bean

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Speaker 3: said it is their responsibility to help Josh Allen get

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Speaker 3: and said it's incumbent upon them to get over the top,

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Speaker 3: and he said that starts with finding a new head coach.

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Speaker 3: As far as the group of people who will be

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Speaker 3: involved in the head coaching search and who will be

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Speaker 3: weighing in obviously Terry Pagoula and Brandon Bean, but also

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Speaker 3: Pete Quelly, Director of Business Operations, Laura Pagoula, mister Pegula's daughter,

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Speaker 3: assistant GMS Brian Gain, and Terrence Gret and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: Mister Pigoule admitted there is a risk in the decision

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Speaker 3: to fire head coach Sean McDermott, but did not say

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Speaker 3: next year is Super Bowl or bust. He didn't feel

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Speaker 3: that would be a fair way to frame things for

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Speaker 3: a new head coach coming in, and quite frankly, he's

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Speaker 3: right on that, because there's gonna be enough pressure on

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Speaker 3: whoever the new head coach is. You can't put the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl or bust on top of it.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: I've said this too, and it's it's hard to say that,

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Speaker 4: say it in this context now because it hasn't even started.

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Speaker 4: But I've heard even now people are going, Man, they

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Speaker 4: got to get on it, they got to hire. You know,

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Speaker 4: three weeks or three hours. The right guy is the

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Speaker 4: right guy. So take take your time to get it right,

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Speaker 4: and go from there. They there's the list that's out now.

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Speaker 4: Is was put out? I think I don't know if

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Speaker 4: reported that most of the guys, all the guys that

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Speaker 2: Oh, there's a good number, Anthony.

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Speaker 4: Lynne that those are guys obviously who've been in this

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Speaker 4: long their tenure was. So those guys are kind of

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Speaker 4: interesting search. I'm sure we're gonna get have a lot

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Speaker 4: of information. We won't get information about how the interviews

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Speaker 3: Both mister Pagoula and Brandon Bean dismissed the popular narrative

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Speaker 3: outside the organization that there was a powerplay won by

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Speaker 3: being over McDermott. Mister Pegoula said if anyone in the

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Speaker 3: Being said such a narrative is hurtful and for someone

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Speaker 3: to question his character as BS. He then reminded everyone

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Speaker 3: how he defended Sean McDermott in twenty twenty three when

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Speaker 3: there were some negative things written about him. As for

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Speaker 3: the state of the roster going forward, Being said that

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Speaker 3: they have to get under the cap first. A new

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Speaker 3: precipitate more than normal year over year player turnover. As

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Speaker 3: for leaning toward an offensive minded head coach, Being said,

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Speaker 3: they'll give it consideration, but the head coaching job is

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Speaker 3: bigger than a play caller. It's a CEO position and

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Speaker 3: they have to get the leadership part of it correct,

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Speaker 3: which I got to tell you that was very good

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Speaker 3: to hear. Finally, Brandon Bean said that Josh Allen may

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Speaker 2: In the spring, there will be enough recovery time.

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Speaker 3: Head coaching candidate names are starting to materialize for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Here are the names of candidates that the Bills have

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Speaker 3: reportedly made requests for interviews. Commander's run game coordinator Anthony Lynn,

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Speaker 3: former Giants head coach Brian Daboll, Jaguar offensive coordinator Grant Yudinsky,

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Speaker 3: and Bill's current offensive coordinator Joe Brady. Three of those candidates,

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Speaker 3: as Steve mentioned, in addition to Brady, have coached in

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Speaker 3: sixteen under Rex Ryan Day, Ball offensive coordinator. Obviously under McDermott.

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Speaker 3: Weaver was a defensive line coach under Doug Morone here

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Speaker 3: and Brady obviously has been the offensive coordinator for the

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Speaker 3: last two and a half seasons. According to the Athletics,

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Speaker 3: Diana Rassini, Brian Dable, and lou Anarumo will be the

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Speaker 3: first to interview. Per other reports, Ana Roumo will interview

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Speaker 3: to some degree they are playing catchup knowing the vast

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Speaker 4: We're gonna be talking about this a lot, and I

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Speaker 4: you know, the first at you start. Generally, it has

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Speaker 4: The right guy is the right guy offense or defense,

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Speaker 4: So I'm I'm not going to get caught up in

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Speaker 4: any of that. Certainly, there's a couple of guys with

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Speaker 4: all this this whole thing. Uh, those guys have got

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Speaker 4: more that goes into this, and even Josh would tell

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Speaker 4: you this, there's a lot more that goes into this

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Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of fun. Uh, And it's going

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Speaker 3: Davis Webb has not been officially named as an interview candidate,

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Speaker 3: but we should keep in mind there could be other

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Speaker 3: being alluded to that possibility in the press conference today,

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Speaker 3: And as we mentioned, the Bills are also playing catch

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Speaker 3: up with these other teams still looking for a head

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Speaker 2: This job would obviously supersede those.

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Speaker 3: Yudinsky has a second interview lined up with the Browns

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The reason I brought up Davis Webb is he's still

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Speaker 4: And so we'll see. He's young, yeah, and he just

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Speaker 3: Josh Udinsky's also thirty years old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jaguars coordinator.

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Speaker 4: And you know, there's always it's interesting. We talked about

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Speaker 4: and it was always brought up with Sean, like nobody

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Speaker 4: the next guy. Now, he may be widely successful and

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Speaker 4: I think that's the expectation. You got to get out

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Speaker 4: And I think the expectation with Josh and this new

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Speaker 4: and how close they've been, you got to be the difference, bro,

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Speaker 4: let's go. You know, there's going to be that kind

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if that's that's where you bring

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Speaker 3: to have a first time head coach learning on the

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Speaker 3: on what is already the back nine of Josh Allen's career,

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Speaker 3: So time is of the essence here. Maybe there is

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Speaker 3: But I don't know, that's a tough projection to make over.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a guy that's been there and done that has

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Speaker 5: Think you for picking my call? I think there needs

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have a problem doing that. Who would it be?

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Speaker 4: I don't have a problem doing it. But I also

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Speaker 4: He's got vastly more experience in this in this arena,

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Speaker 3: Well, and they most intimately know or bel what they

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Speaker 6: Rich Yeah, Hi, I wanted to talk maybe about a

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Speaker 4: The whole thing reeks. It was a catch, should have

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Speaker 4: Should have been reviewed and brought back and and given

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Speaker 7: You know I agree with that that something's got to

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Speaker 3: I don't see that arrangement at all, Kevin. That's Ryan

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Speaker 7: Fine, fine, then let him go somewhere else. I think

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Speaker 7: there's more of this story than we'll ever know. So

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Speaker 7: thanks for everything.

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Speaker 9: You do.

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Speaker 4: Have a great day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The problem is it and here's one of the things

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Speaker 4: that sometimes get owners in trouble when they when they

442
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Speaker 4: buy a sports franchise. You saw this a little bit

443
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Speaker 4: in in You've seen it around the league at different times.

444
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Speaker 4: The NFL is not like any other industry, so the

445
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Speaker 4: hiring from within, there's a dynamic there that doesn't seem

446
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Speaker 4: to work like it does in other like office jobs,

447
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Speaker 4: I guess, corporate jobs. So I'm not quite there where

448
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Speaker 4: Joe Brady's and is the top candidate automatically. I see

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Speaker 4: how that works in the corporate world. The the NFL

450
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Speaker 4: is not corporate when it comes to the place where

451
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Speaker 4: the where the cleats meet the grass. So yes, Joe

452
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Speaker 4: Brady probably will get a good look. I'm kind of

453
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Speaker 4: in the opposite corner. I'd be shocked if Joe got it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just think his association with the previous head coach

456
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Speaker 3: probably works against him rather than for him, as you

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Speaker 3: would suggest, Kevin, just based on the tone I think

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Speaker 3: we heard today. I mean, Terry Pegoula said he went

459
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Speaker 3: in that locker room and the distraught nature of the

460
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Speaker 3: players convinced him they had hit a proverbial wall in

461
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Speaker 3: terms of the playoff wall and could not go any further.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying Joe Brady should shoulder that. Obviously, the

464
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Speaker 3: head coach shoulders that, and he's been fired. And I

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Speaker 3: like Joe Brady a lot. I think he's a great

466
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. I just wonder how much change they are

467
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Speaker 3: truly seeking, And by some of the comments that led

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Speaker 3: to the decision on McDermott, I'm led to believe that

469
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Speaker 3: they're looking for a very fresh new voice, and knowing

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Speaker 3: that Joe's been in the building the last three years,

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Speaker 3: is there enough change by promoting him to accomplish that

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Speaker 3: might not be the only thing I'm putting.

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Speaker 4: Out there, right, It might not be fresh enough that right,

474
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Speaker 4: But I.

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Speaker 3: Think he does a lot of things very very very well. Sure,

476
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Speaker 3: But for what they are looking for, specifically to move

477
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Speaker 3: on from what was the last nine years, I don't

478
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Speaker 3: know that he fits into that puzzle piece.

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Speaker 4: I'm yeah, I'm I'll say this about Joe Brady too.

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Speaker 4: I think he is You know this, everybody mantra think

481
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Speaker 4: about where a coordinator is. He may have a voice

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Speaker 4: in the room. But this stuff, this big, huge debate

483
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Speaker 4: we've had in this big conjecture and big topic of

484
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Speaker 4: the day about how good is the roster and was

485
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Speaker 4: it Sean getting them there because he was a great

486
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Speaker 4: coach or was it Brandon give him a good roster

487
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Speaker 4: and Sewn just wasn't good enough to get him over

488
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Speaker 4: the hump? All that debate that gets weighed out in

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Speaker 4: this Think about it. As a coordinator, Joe Brady, he

490
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Speaker 4: gets what he gets. He may have a voice on

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Speaker 4: draft air or what kind of receivers. But the roster

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Speaker 4: is he gets less say than anybody else in that

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Speaker 4: room about how that roster is going to look. And

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Speaker 4: he's got to call the offense. He's got to make

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Speaker 4: a game plan. He's got to find weapons where a

496
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Speaker 4: lot of people say, you don't have any weapons, right,

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Speaker 4: and he had. In my opinion, Joe's gotten better and

498
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Speaker 4: better and better as his tenure as at OC has

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Speaker 4: gone on. I've certainly, I mean, it's it's the soup

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Speaker 4: d joure for fans and every city to second guess

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Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator's play call, because not every play works,

502
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Speaker 4: and if it doesn't work, everybody's smarter than he is

503
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Speaker 4: because I would have done something different. It's it's fun

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Speaker 4: to do that, let's face it. But don't don't let

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Speaker 4: that cloud the picture of how good Joe did. He wasn't.

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Speaker 4: He didn't have the reputation of a Mike McDaniel who's

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Speaker 4: down there with tuatongoai Loo and they're doing all this

508
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Speaker 4: card shuffling in the backfield with the ball and the

509
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Speaker 4: ball's coming out. He didn't have to do any of that,

510
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Speaker 4: and probably couldn't have afforded to do that with the

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Speaker 4: guys who he had, but he I thought Joe Brady

512
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Speaker 4: did get better and has gotten better even each within

513
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Speaker 4: each year when he got promoted and Ken Dorsey was

514
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Speaker 4: let go tough spot for him to get dropped into,

515
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Speaker 4: and I thought he got better and better. I'm not

516
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Speaker 4: saying he's gonna be a head coach this year or

517
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Speaker 4: anything like that, but I'm not one of those people

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Speaker 4: that's piling on how he coordinated the offense here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here more of your phone call.

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Speaker 3: Were also going to play some comments from the press

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Speaker 3: conference earlier today in the event that you missed some

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Speaker 3: of the more notable things that were said by Terry

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Speaker 3: Pagoula and Brandon Bean.

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Speaker 2: All of that next tire on one of Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: stay with Us.

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Speaker 10: I hear it from my counterparts at league meetings. A

527
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Speaker 10: lot of them talk about the Bills organization and the

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Speaker 10: success we've had through the years. Our roster is a

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Speaker 10: direct reflection of the hard work that Brandon and our

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Speaker 10: scouting staff has done through the years. One may complain

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Speaker 10: over a deal, over a player, over a result, but

532
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Speaker 10: the bottom line is success over a long period of

533
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Speaker 10: time means something. We're doing something right. We are focused

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Speaker 10: on bring a Super Bowl to Buffalo. We have an

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Speaker 10: MVP quarterback in Josh Allen. I'm looking forward to having

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Speaker 10: a successful coaching search. I know this is a desirable job.

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Speaker 10: Our phones are ringing, and we're going to begin that process.

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Speaker 3: So that's Bill's owner Terry Pagoula earlier today in his

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Speaker 3: press conference with Brandon Bean addressing the decision to fire

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Speaker 3: head coach Sean McDermott and charting a new course forward

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Speaker 3: in finding a new head coach. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 3: with you here on a Wednesday edition of One Bill's

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Speaker 3: Live and taking your phone calls at eighth three oh

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Speaker 3: five point fifty, and we'll resume that now with Mike

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Speaker 3: in Syracuse.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Mike, Hi.

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Speaker 11: Chris, I Steve, thanks so much for taking my call

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Speaker 11: once again. I just I had a few comments about thence.

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Speaker 11: I listened to ninety to ninety five percent of I

550
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Speaker 11: only missed a seconder here and there. I just I

551
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Speaker 11: know I'm entitled to my opinion and some people may

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Speaker 11: or may not disagree. I think a lot of that

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Speaker 11: press conference was a little bit of lipping ear service

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Speaker 11: for the fans because people were just demanding an explanation.

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Speaker 11: I just don't feel like it answered many of people's

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Speaker 11: questions and whatnot. And I have to say that as

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Speaker 11: much as uh a lot of people have respect for

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Speaker 11: for Pegoula, I think firen McDermott based on uh, you know,

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Speaker 11: the the after lost locker room. I think that seems

560
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Speaker 11: a little drastic in my opinion. If that's actually what happened,

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Speaker 11: I guess we'll never really know because it's all inter

562
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Speaker 11: office politics and whatever they got going on. That's just

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Speaker 11: my overall opinion on it. I also have to say

564
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Speaker 11: about the press conference. I was I was a little

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Speaker 11: disappointed in and being and I believe Kagoula did as well.

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Speaker 11: And you guys can correct me if I'm wrong, if

567
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Speaker 11: I'm if I took things out of context. But there

568
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Speaker 11: are comments about keyon Coleman.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 11: I know he's been controversial on the team, hasn't produced

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Speaker 11: the way people have wanted to. But I felt as

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Speaker 11: all the comments that they said. I don't know if

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Speaker 11: they have planned to trade him, do whatever with him,

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Speaker 11: but if I was him, I'd be requesting the trade.

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Speaker 11: I felt like they kind of hung out there to

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Speaker 11: dry a little bit playing the blame game who wanted

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Speaker 11: and who wanted this to that. I didn't necessarily agree

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Speaker 11: with that because he's still an active Bill. He's still

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Speaker 11: on our team, so I have to say it goes

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Speaker 11: along with that as far as the new coaching starts,

581
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Speaker 11: because I know we have to move on. I don't

582
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Speaker 11: want to do the defend McDermott thing, you know what

583
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Speaker 11: I mean, forever and ever, because it's happened, and you

584
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Speaker 11: know the Bills are going to move on and get

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Speaker 11: a new coach. In my opinions, i'd agree with you,

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Speaker 11: Brownie that I think they're going to look for a new, bright,

587
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Speaker 11: young mind because that seems to be the going trend

588
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Speaker 11: of NFL and and a lot of teams are having

589
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Speaker 11: success with that. I think going with an older coach

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Speaker 11: that has been around, I think that's kind of a

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Speaker 11: bygone era because the game was a lot different when

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Speaker 11: you know, Mike McCarthy and and Tomlin started their tenures

593
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Speaker 11: a long time ago. I'm not saying they're not formidable coaches,

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Speaker 11: but I think the game has changed so much the

595
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Speaker 11: last several years that they need a guy who's who's

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Speaker 11: grown up in it for the ear least the majority

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Speaker 11: of it. So I think with them announcing people they're

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Speaker 11: gonna interview, I think I think is great. But I

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Speaker 11: want to say that they have their eyes on Kubiak

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Speaker 11: there from Seattle the OC there, I believe, instead of

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Speaker 11: very successful seasons of very young minds. And obviously they

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Speaker 11: can't say anything yet because he's still playing, and I

603
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Speaker 11: know that no interview requests can be made until you

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Speaker 11: know their season is done and over with. But I'm

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Speaker 11: pretty sure that whether Seattle wins, this, wins the Super Bowl, whatever,

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Speaker 11: I'm pretty sure the next day is the Bills are

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Speaker 11: going to be a requested an interview with him for

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Speaker 11: head coach, because in my opinion, I think he is

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Speaker 11: probably the best bright young mind to going as an

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Speaker 11: OC right now. They can help Josh. That's just my opinion.

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Speaker 11: And I'll hang up and with your guys talent's appreciata.

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Speaker 3: Sure thing, Mike, I will tell you Clint Kubiak has

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Speaker 3: already interviewed with the Arizona Cardinals, the Baltimore Ravens, and

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Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Raiders, three teams who still have not

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Speaker 3: named their new head coach, and the Bills haven't even

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Speaker 3: talked to him yet, So I wouldn't automatically assume, first

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Speaker 3: of all, if he does become a candidate, and I

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Speaker 3: think he very well could be that he's coming here

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Speaker 3: because he might be offered a job somewhere else before

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Speaker 3: the Bills even get a chance to talk to him.

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Speaker 3: It's a possibility. Timing is of the essence here.

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Speaker 4: Also when you first start out, I don't I don't

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Speaker 4: agree with you, Mike about paying lip service to any

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Speaker 4: of the things that they talked about in this press conference.

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Speaker 4: I thought quite the opposite. I'm and a lot of people,

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Speaker 4: particularly on social because they skim it and they listen

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Speaker 4: to soundbites instead of listening to the whole press conference.

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Speaker 4: The way Terry presented it, it made people think that it

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Speaker 4: was just because of what he saw in the locker

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Speaker 4: room after the Denver game, and that's the reason he

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Speaker 4: fired Sean. In the context of more he got into

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Speaker 4: how the whole tenure of Shawn's career and the playoff

633
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 4: roadblock and how it was year after year or year

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Speaker 4: after year, and it was just time not to go

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Speaker 4: through that anymore. So it wasn't just because of the reaction.

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Speaker 4: It was including the postgame reaction so I don't think

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Speaker 4: it was really it's really I don't think it's right

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00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 4: or accurate to characterize the reason Terry fired Sean was

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Speaker 4: because of the Denver playoff game and ultimately because of

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Speaker 4: one officials call. That's none of that is true.

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Speaker 3: I think the atmosphere in that locker room and what

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Speaker 3: he witnessed there was the last thing that convinced him

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Speaker 3: that this was the decision he had to make, and

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Speaker 3: I think it was kind of like a final straw

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Speaker 3: thing more than the only thing. It may not have

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Speaker 3: been presented that way in the press conference, but I think,

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Speaker 3: and look, I'm not going to pretend to know how

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Speaker 3: Terry Pagoula does business behind the scenes, but he is

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Speaker 3: not known to be a knee jerk reaction type with

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Speaker 3: this franchise.

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Speaker 4: So he well, he's proven it that he wasn't a

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Speaker 4: knee jerk. Yeah, owner, he's proven it time again. You're

653
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Speaker 4: every there was an outcry after the thirteen second game

654
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Speaker 4: to have Sean McDermott's head on a platter, an outcry

655
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Speaker 4: and Terry didn't do it. That is everything but a

656
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Speaker 4: knee jerk reaction. So he is you know, nine years

657
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 4: it's not an it's not a knee jerk reaction anymore.

658
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Speaker 4: So there's that also, And I get it. Keon's name

659
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Speaker 4: came up. He's the only player besides Josh whose name

660
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Speaker 4: came up in this press conference because they were asked

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Speaker 4: about him and Terry who was in who was in

662
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Speaker 4: the room when they got draft when he's always in

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Speaker 4: the draft room. And he recounted the conversations around Keon

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Speaker 4: and how the coaching staff liked Keon more than Brandon did,

665
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Speaker 4: not that Brandon didn't like him, but the coaching staff

666
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Speaker 4: that he was more their guy than some other dude,

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Speaker 4: and how that all went down and Brandon, you know,

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Speaker 4: after Terry said, you know, the coaching staff's the ones

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Speaker 4: who really wanted Keon, Brandon came back in and said, listen,

670
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Speaker 4: I like Keon too, and he's you know, I made

671
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Speaker 4: the pick. So he kind of defended it. And everybody's like, wow,

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Speaker 4: Keon's not gonna like that. Listen, nobody cares what Keon

673
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Speaker 4: thinks today. I'm sorry, you can off. I don't know what.

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Speaker 4: I guess there's a lot of really if everybody feels

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Speaker 4: like they got to rub Keon's Tommy and I hope

676
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Speaker 4: he doesn't, you know, maybe he'll ask for a trade. Seriously,

677
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Speaker 4: that's irrelevant. That was the that's the kind if if

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Speaker 4: If you're worried about those kind of conversations in the

679
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: draft room taking place where somebody liked the coaches like

680
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 4: this player, and the and the scouting staff like this player,

681
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: and the owner liked another player, and the GM liked

682
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Speaker 4: a fourth player. If you're worried about how that is

683
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 4: and how everybody hates each other because they don't like

684
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Speaker 4: the guy I like, get off the train right now.

685
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Speaker 4: That's how it works. It's way, that's the way, and

686
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: that's why, and that's how it works in healthy organizations.

687
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 4: That's how it works in organizations who get it right.

688
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 4: Everybody's got a voice, and there are people who really

689
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 4: disagree with each other, but they're still friends. They're still

690
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Speaker 4: buddies or collaborators. They may agree on the next guy,

691
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Speaker 4: then in the second round they both love the same guy.

692
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Speaker 4: That's just the way it works. And players, coaches, assistant gms,

693
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Speaker 4: GMS on they don't get their feelings hurt over tension

694
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Speaker 4: in the draft room. They're adults. That's the way it's

695
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: supposed to work. They're supposed to be disagreements. They don't

696
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 4: want to all agree all the time because then they're lemmings.

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Speaker 4: They're all holding hands and they all walk off a

698
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Speaker 4: cliff together because nobody was in the room pounding the

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Speaker 4: table for something different. You gotta have that, and Keon

700
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Speaker 4: is an example of that. And because Keon hasn't worked

701
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Speaker 4: out as well as Keon would like, let alone everybody else,

702
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: that's always a little hot button. So it's irrelevant today,

703
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Speaker 4: it's Keon Coleman is absolutely irrelevant on a day like today,

704
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Speaker 4: his name came up and it was mentioned, and and

705
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Speaker 4: and all this stuff came down. Yeah, there's a long

706
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Speaker 4: off season to go. Keon doesn't even know who his

707
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Speaker 4: coach is anymore or who's gonna be, So I'm pretty

708
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Speaker 4: sure he'll have a chance to take a nap, get

709
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Speaker 4: up and have a fresh start. So we'll see and.

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Speaker 2: With that, a lot of that.

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Speaker 3: With that, we'll take a break and take more phone

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Speaker 3: calls when we get back here. On a Wednesday edition

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Speaker 3: of One Bill's Live, presented by Collidea Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 3: Bills Radio.

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Speaker 10: If I can take you into that locker room, I

716
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 10: felt like we hit the proverbial playoff wall, year after year,

717
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Speaker 10: thirteen seconds, miss field goals, the catch.

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Speaker 2: So I.

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Speaker 10: Just sensed in that locker room like, where do we

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Speaker 10: go from here with what we have? And that was

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Speaker 10: the basis for my decision.

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Speaker 3: That's Bill's owner Terry Pagoula at the press conference earlier

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Speaker 3: today and basically indicating that what he witnessed in the

724
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Speaker 3: locker room after the loss to Denver was the convincing,

725
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Speaker 3: perhaps final straw in making the decision to move on

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Speaker 3: from head coach Sean Dermott. You heard him run down

727
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Speaker 3: the list of some of the playoff shortcomings of the

728
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Speaker 3: previous years and being in that locker room convinced him

729
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Speaker 3: that a new voice was needed.

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Speaker 2: And that's where we sit now.

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Speaker 3: Going to get back to the phones at eighth three,

732
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Speaker 3: five point fifty to get your thoughts on today's press

733
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Speaker 3: conference and where the team is headed from here and

734
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Speaker 3: to al In Blaisdell.

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Speaker 2: What's up, al Hi.

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Speaker 12: Hi, guys, first time caller. My question is okay, how good?

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Speaker 12: I haven't never hear John Gruden's ain't mentioned anymore as

738
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Speaker 12: far as coaching. Do you feel that his time has

739
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Speaker 12: passed or just at because of the problems he had

740
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Speaker 12: a few years back, that he's blackballed or whatever. And

741
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Speaker 12: I understand that a lot of teams want to go

742
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Speaker 12: to the up and up and coming coaches, which is great,

743
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Speaker 12: but when you have a new coach or someone that

744
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 12: hasn't coached before, it seems like there's a big learning curve.

745
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Speaker 12: And with a team like we have with Josh at

746
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Speaker 12: the Helm, what I think John Gruden would be a

747
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Speaker 12: perfect fit because of his offensive genius. I guess you

748
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Speaker 12: would say so obviously, and ed and thank you for

749
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Speaker 12: taking my call.

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Speaker 4: Every time you bring John Gruden's name up, somebody gives

751
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 4: you some pushback about the the Ulama Yeah, the racial

752
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: jokes he made underneath. Yeah, and uh so there may

753
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Speaker 4: you may get a lot of pushback doing it bringing

754
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 4: his name up. He was a very good head coach

755
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 4: in his day though, and whole Super Bowl winning coach.

756
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Speaker 4: I don't know that the game has passed him by.

757
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 4: I know he sees stays very connected to it and

758
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: has designs on being a coach again. Uh. But yeah,

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00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 4: you get serious pushback when you mentioned his name because

760
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Speaker 4: of of the emails we mentioned. Uh, And that's a

761
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 4: real big question. Do you want the the live, young,

762
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Speaker 4: up and coming offensive mind, like back when he got

763
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Speaker 4: the job, you know, Sean McVay, you know, or you

764
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 4: know when he got the job, Sean Payton back in

765
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Speaker 4: the day. Now he still is kind of that guy,

766
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Speaker 4: you know, Andy Reid kind of guy. Accept an up

767
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: and coming guy, the new offensive mind, the Mike McDaniel,

768
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: the Mat McDonalds, the Matt laflor Yeah, the Cliff Kingsbury's

769
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Speaker 4: of the world now, or do you go for a

770
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 4: guy who's been a head coach? Well, Cliff Kingsbury is

771
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: one of those guys, But do you go for a

772
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Speaker 4: guy who's been a head coach, like a Mike McCarthy

773
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: kind of guy, Because the thought would be, to me,

774
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Speaker 4: this is a window that lasts as long as Josh's career.

775
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Speaker 4: You don't need a thirty one year old guy to

776
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Speaker 4: get to Josh's into Joshus career. You need a guy

777
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Speaker 4: who's done it, been there and can pick up where

778
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Speaker 4: mc ostensibly where McDermott left off, and push it a

779
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Speaker 4: little further right. That's the idea. And you're thinking in

780
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Speaker 4: the next two three years, four years tops, that you're

781
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Speaker 4: going to be, you know, on the cusp do you

782
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: need a guy with some experience who knows how to

783
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Speaker 4: handle that, or do you want an up and coming

784
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Speaker 4: guy that you feel will give you another nine years

785
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Speaker 4: maybe with the Super Bowl appearance and a Super Bowl

786
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Speaker 4: championship mixed in there. That's the balance about the the

787
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Speaker 4: choices you make, And I don't know that you have

788
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Speaker 4: to decide that specifically to make to exclude guys. I

789
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 4: think you grab the right guy, whether he's sixty seven

790
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 4: years old or twenty seven years old. You know you

791
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 4: got to pick the right guy.

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Speaker 2: I think the outside perception is.

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Speaker 3: Hiring a guy who's never done it before is of

794
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 3: greater risk with a window that is half the size

795
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Speaker 3: that it used to be with the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So they've got young.

797
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Speaker 3: People in the request for interview pool Grant Yadinsky, and

798
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Speaker 3: maybe there will be others. I mean, Joe Brady's only

799
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Speaker 3: thirty five and he's never been a head coach either.

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Speaker 3: The other ones are old, more veteran coaches. Brian Daball

801
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 3: has been a head coach, Anthony Lynn has been a

802
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 3: head coach, but lou Anrumo has not been a head

803
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 3: coach at the NFL level. But he's also sixty four

804
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 3: years old. I mean, Anthony Weaver has done been a

805
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: head coach, but he's a veteran coach that's been around

806
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Speaker 3: a while. So they've got people from both ends of

807
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: the spectrum. More from the veteran end at least right now.

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Speaker 3: That's subject to change when they can talk to some

809
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 3: of the coaches on the playoff staffs that are still

810
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: playing football.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's left to see how it shakes it.

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Speaker 4: The tough part about it is, think about this. They

813
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Speaker 4: hired an inexperienced, new, brand new head coach. Last time

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Speaker 4: they hired a head coach, right, And that's the question.

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Speaker 4: Is that a good hier pat hire?

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Speaker 7: Right?

817
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Speaker 4: Because it didn't never got there. But in that first year, man,

818
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: it's like, that's exactly what we were looking for. He

819
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 4: took a drought roster that had good traded a good

820
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Speaker 4: players away and think people thinking you're you're tanking. He

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Speaker 4: got them to the playoffs. Is that a good hire? Well,

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Speaker 4: ultimately you had to fire him with no Super Bowl appearances,

823
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 4: but it was one of the most successful runs in

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Speaker 4: franchise history.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: That do you stay away from a young guy?

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Speaker 3: Because I think that's why the door is open for

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Speaker 3: young coaches because of how well the last one went.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, may have to see where it goes.

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Speaker 3: And if that list of first time potential head coaches expands,

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Doc and Williamsville next.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Doc?

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Speaker 13: Hey, thanks for taking my call. I'm going to offer

834
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Speaker 13: my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions.

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Speaker 13: First of all, I was a McDermott fan from Monday

836
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Speaker 13: to Saturday, not so much on Sunday. On Sunday he

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Speaker 13: reminded me of a deer in headlights hiring a new coach.

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Speaker 13: I think you got a coach you have to hire

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Speaker 13: from the staff that you currently have, and you hope

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Speaker 13: that this guy has made enough impression on the other

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Speaker 13: coaches that they stay here in Buffalo. That being said,

842
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Speaker 13: Joe Brady is the obvious choice. Officiating is horrendous. It's terrible.

843
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 13: It's an insult to intelligence. And if you want better officiating,

844
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 13: get home field advantage during the playoffs. I'll hang up

845
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Speaker 13: and listen to your comments.

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Speaker 4: Good point. If there was one thing that was lacking

847
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 4: during the McDermott era, it was their ability to win

848
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: meaningless regular season games and not show up flat once

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Speaker 4: or twice, and those once or twice losses always cost.

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Speaker 2: Them the one seed, and that and again this year.

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00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 4: That's yes, that seems like a minor point, but with

852
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 4: this team and the way it turned out, it was

853
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 4: a huge difference maker. Those that Week seven or whatever

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00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: was Miami game right this last season that was Week ten, okay,

855
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 4: week ten, Miami game six was Atlanta. Week five was

856
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 4: New England where they turned it over three times here

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Speaker 4: in this building.

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Speaker 3: So you know, New England Atlanta back to back flat performances,

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Speaker 3: and they squandered their four and oh start and they

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00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: never recovered in terms of being at the top of

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Speaker 3: the conference or the top of the division.

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Speaker 4: That's right. They lost too in a row to the

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Speaker 4: Patriots and the Falcons, and that's it. They couldn't get

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Speaker 4: the one seed, never got it during Sean mcdermot's tenure,

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Speaker 4: and the way they played in this building, it you

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Speaker 4: can kind of hard have a hard time thinking it

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Speaker 4: would not have made a difference. Now, certainly, the one

868
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 4: playoff game they lost here in McDermott's tenure was the

869
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 4: Cincinnati game.

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00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, they also lost to Kansas City here.

871
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 4: The one that you're the one that got away from

872
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 4: them against Cincinnati. The one I always bring up is

873
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 4: the one after the demor ham and thing, and that

874
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 4: you and I both kind of put that aside as

875
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: being a different animal. But they were tough to beat

876
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 4: in this building. And that's the one with the Steph

877
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: the Kansas City loss in the playoffs here in this

878
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 4: building as the one where Steph digs dropped it. Yep,

879
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 4: just it's just one more excruciating moment that it seems

880
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: like it's really bad luck, but it it keeps happening.

881
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's like you got you got a bushel

882
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 4: basket of games like that in the exact same spot,

883
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 4: in the exact same moment, all for some different, unexplainable reason.

884
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 4: This year it was the official call on the catch interception.

885
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 4: Last year it was the fourth down spot on the

886
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 4: quarterback sneak too, and the year we're talking about it

887
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 4: was the Digs drop. And so it's time after time

888
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 4: of time. So now it's like, well, okay, yeah, let's

889
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 4: let's make a change.

890
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: We'll take a break here, come back with more, including

891
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: more of your phone calls. We're wide open for those

892
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: when we return here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us.

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Speaker 14: You know, the term pressure is a privilege is spot on,

896
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 14: and this job is a privilege. Work in this organization

897
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 14: is a privilege, and I don't take it lightly.

898
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 4: We have, as Terry alluded.

899
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Speaker 14: To, an MVP quarterback who just completed his eighth season

900
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 14: here and we have got to help him get to

901
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 14: the Super Bowl and bring a.

902
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: Championship to Buffalo.

903
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 14: And part of the reason we're here stinks because we

904
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 14: have to discuss what happened this week. Moving on from

905
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 14: a head coach, I bear guilt, blame, responsibility.

906
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 2: There's no finger pointing.

907
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 14: I understand there's things I could have done better, and

908
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 14: we're always looking to get better and that will never change.

909
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 14: If we don't win the Super Bowl next season and

910
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 14: I'm up here explaining where we are and what we

911
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 14: have to do, there will be more things that we

912
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 14: will work to get better. The goal here is to

913
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 14: bring a championship to Buffalo. We've been close. As Terry

914
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 14: said seven straight years in the postseason.

915
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: I think he listed all the.

916
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 14: Seeds we have to get it over the top, and

917
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 14: that starts with finding the right head coach.

918
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: That's a general manager and Director of football Operations Brandon

919
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 3: Bean at the press conference earlier today about the head

920
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: coaching search that begins in earnest right now, going to

921
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: get back to the phones though at eight o three

922
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 3: five point fifty for your take on today's press conference

923
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: and where the team heads from here and to Abe

924
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 3: in Rochester, we go, what's up, Abe, Dave?

925
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 4: Go ahead?

926
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead up, Dave.

927
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 5: So I'm a.

928
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 8: Little frustrated away everything went down. I know, obviously I'll

929
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 8: get a lot of pushed back on it, but you

930
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 8: should have gave McDermott one more year, considering all the injuries,

931
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 8: everything that team went through. I think what Pagoula saw

932
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 8: in that locker room was a bunch of guys that

933
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 8: felt that they gave everything that they possibly could. I mean,

934
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 8: that team went through. That team must it must have

935
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 8: been the longest season any of those players ever played,

936
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 8: as far as how it felt, all the blood, sweat

937
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 8: and tears.

938
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 9: That they put into it.

939
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 8: And I understand, you know, the thirteen seconds and stuff

940
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 8: like that, but man with you know, beings responsible for

941
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 8: that roster, even if he agrees to go with some

942
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 8: of McDermott's you know, wants. It's ultimately on being any

943
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 8: GM most of the time, it's on them to put

944
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 8: a winning team on the field. And the beginning of

945
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 8: this season, it was already known and being discussed in

946
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 8: training camp that they don't have the receivers. They do

947
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 8: not have the receivers to get to a championship game,

948
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 8: and any fan that watches the football would obviously conclude,

949
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 8: you know, had that same opinion for the most.

950
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 4: Part, Dave, Do you think, Dave, do you think, uh,

951
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: you think the Bills were a better football team than

952
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 4: Denver or just played bad.

953
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 5: Both?

954
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 4: You think you think Denver was you think okay, you

955
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: think Denver was the better team and Buffalo played bat.

956
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no. I think I think Josh this year

957
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 8: was the old Josh from around his rookie year. Made

958
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 8: a lot of mistakes at the end of the day

959
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 8: that we had a chance to win the game a

960
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 8: couple of times. Absolutely, Uh, the same thing with the

961
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 8: Philly game. You know, Josh missed the throw on that.

962
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, these guys, I mean,

963
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 8: if you I think he made a knee jerk reaction

964
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 8: coming out of that locker room, I understand other things

965
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 8: built up to it. I get it, but one more

966
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 8: year wasn't going to kill it. Now we're we're actually

967
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 8: we're behind everything for the coaching search. I mean, the

968
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 8: only chance we have to even make the playoffs or

969
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 8: get pass out of the first rounds if we do,

970
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 8: I hate to say it, is you got to bring

971
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 8: someone back that knows these players such as Dable, right,

972
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 8: and then you go get a hot shot defender. Their

973
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 8: defensive coordinators really going to do something. I mean, these

974
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 8: fans and me, I mean, I'm forty six, I've been

975
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 8: invested since I was a kid. I understand that, you know,

976
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 8: Pagola being you know, they put their heart into it,

977
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 8: but at the end of the day, eventually they're they'll

978
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 8: be gone. And they weren't there in the beginning either.

979
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 8: So it's a lot of heartache for us fans.

980
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, they know that, Abe, and I'm sorry. I got

981
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 3: to move along because we've got a lot of people

982
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 3: holding here. Mister owns the team, bottom line, he writes

983
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 3: the checks. So I understand that fans are up in arms.

984
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 3: Fans are aren't happy with how it went down. You

985
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 3: don't have to like it, but you're you're you're a

986
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 3: non vested bystander in terms of what happens inside these walls.

987
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: So we're me and Steve, we're employees here that he

988
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 3: owns the team, he makes the decisions, and everybody else

989
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: has to live with them.

990
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: You're you're right, though, Dave and the I don't believe

991
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 4: it was a knee jerk reaction, and you will get

992
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 4: some pushback over given McDermott. One more year nine is

993
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 4: a lot, and the injuries and the roster. What about

994
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 4: the two years they went into the playoffs in the

995
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 4: early twenties when they were the healthiest team in football

996
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 4: and had the almost the exact same result. It's you

997
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 4: can say what you want, and I get change is hard,

998
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,919
Speaker 4: but there's a number of things you said. I yeah,

999
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: I don't I don't get I'm yeah.

1000
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bill in Texas next. What's up Bill?

1001
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Brownie, and mister future Hall of Famer Steve Tasker.

1002
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: Uh Bill, just quick things? Uh? Keon Coleman. I called

1003
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: when they were doing the draft, and I told you

1004
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: guys you didn't want him.

1005
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 8: I know you guys don't have.

1006
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Anything to do with that. Whoever wanted Keon Coleman was

1007
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: looking at games like he played against Mercer, and you

1008
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: didn't look at the fact that he did not show

1009
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: up against the top talented UH defenses when they played.

1010
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: All right, all right, fine, go ahead, go ahead, Sean.

1011
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. He was hired to win a super Bowl.

1012
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: Every coach is hired to win a Super Bowl, and

1013
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: he had nine years to do it. He did not

1014
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: get it done. Okay, So either you have to move

1015
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: on or you stay with the status quo and decide

1016
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: we're just happy making the playoffs every year. That's all

1017
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: we want is just to make the playoffs. If you

1018
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: want to win a Super Bowl, you had to change

1019
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: something because it wasn't working. And somebody had mentioned cliff

1020
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury as I possible. You don't want Cliff Kingsbury.

1021
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: My nephew played at Tech when he was there. I'm

1022
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: telling you right now, you don't want him. And last,

1023
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: but not least, I think they ought to go with

1024
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: the coach out of Japan win one suiting you guys

1025
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: have a good day.

1026
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: By okay, Bill, that was very clever joke there.

1027
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said it on the show yesterday. You know,

1028
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott did a great job. While he was here,

1029
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 3: he did a very good job. It came to a

1030
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: point where very good was not good enough.

1031
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 4: It was no longer good to see had to be made.

1032
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to Paul and Dunkirk next. What's up, Paul?

1033
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 15: Hey, how are you? Thank you for taking my call?

1034
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: Sure?

1035
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 15: I would love to say hi to mister Tasker. I

1036
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 15: haven't seen them since two thousand or nineteen ninety six. Wow,

1037
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 15: we owned a bar and restaurant in Fredonia when they trained.

1038
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 15: So Hi, mister Tasker.

1039
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 4: Good to hear from you.

1040
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 15: Anyhow, my pro it's not so much a question, it's

1041
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 15: more of a I just want to say that the

1042
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 15: Buffalo Bills and Terry Pegoula are doing whatever they can

1043
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 15: to win a championship. These were hard decisions. Everybody loves

1044
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 15: Sean McDermott, me included I. This is not about Sean McDermott.

1045
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 15: This is about getting stale and having new life brought

1046
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 15: into a team that I think is destined to win.

1047
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 15: They have to They absolutely have to win. And I

1048
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 15: don't think it's fair for us on the outside to

1049
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 15: be looking in and making all these judgments about why

1050
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 15: he's fired and what's going on in the background. Like

1051
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 15: you say, Steve, we're not there. We don't know what's

1052
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 15: going on on a day to day basis. From that

1053
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 15: press conference I saw today, mister Pegula wants to win

1054
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 15: more than anything, and we haven't and we don't want

1055
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 15: to waste Josh Allen because he is the.

1056
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 13: Best football player to ever play the game.

1057
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 15: I think we need to ease up a little bit

1058
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 15: and give them a chance to actually prove themselves in

1059
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 15: the future, which I guarantee they will do.

1060
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: All right, Paul, thanks for the call, appreciate it.

1061
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all you can do right now, because they're

1062
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: going to try their darness to get it right so

1063
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 3: that they are better going forward. And mister Pegola said

1064
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 3: it himself in the press conference. It is a risk,

1065
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: and he knows it's a risk, but he feels it's

1066
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 3: a risk worth taking. After giving the previous iteration of

1067
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 3: what ran this football team nine years to get it done,

1068
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: he clearly felt a change needed to be made.

1069
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 2: He knows it's a risk, he won knows it's a risk.

1070
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 4: And there are no guarantees.

1071
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 3: I got news for you, mister polid to become a

1072
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 3: billionaire by not taking risks you know, so he knows

1073
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: what risk taking is all about.

1074
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 4: And let's let's face it. Uts from the press conference today,

1075
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 4: I mean, during the run of McDermott, that has been

1076
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 4: so productive and he won so many games, and it

1077
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,479
Speaker 4: was so fun to be a fan of this team.

1078
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: They were winning all these games. The stadium was rocking,

1079
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: the atmosphere around the team was phenomenal. The fans were

1080
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,479
Speaker 4: going crazy. We had a fantastic regular season this year

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Speaker 4: at home games. It was so fun, and we did

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Speaker 4: it with so much it's all that's going on. And

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01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: there were those who because of the way the season's

1084
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 4: previous had ended, you know, all the games that you know,

1085
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 4: the playoff losses after you'd win a game, then lose

1086
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: a game, or win two games then lose the third game,

1087
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: couldn't get to the super Bowl. All the success without

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01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 4: reaching the super Bowl. People were accusing Terry Pegoula of

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Speaker 4: just saying worse. We're fine, you know, we're gonna get there.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be good. We got a contending team. That's

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Speaker 4: where you want to be. There are no guarantees even

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01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 4: if you have the best team that's gonna win. All

1093
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 4: that stuff. He goes that being a contender is good

1094
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 4: enough because it's making us a lot of money. That's awesome. Well,

1095
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: that's a tough stance to take today because they won

1096
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 4: another playoff game this year year and then lost in

1097
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 4: the next round like they have done so many times before.

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Speaker 4: And that's not good enough because the owner wants to

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01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 4: win the whole kitten kaboodle. You're right, that does say

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Speaker 4: something about him. Good, very good, has become not good enough.

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01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 4: You know. You gotta shrug your shoulder and say, hell,

1102
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 4: guy wants to win and he's willing to take a

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01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 4: risk to do it. Something had to change and it

1104
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 4: was time. So yeah, that's that's something you could take

1105
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 4: away from this presser today about how Terry Pagoda is gonna. Listen,

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 4: if Sean mcderant was coming back with Josh Allen, everybody

1107
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 4: would be like, oh, yeah, they're going to be a contender.

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01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 4: They're gonna be right there, we'll see, and they'd watch

1109
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 4: this roster be built in the off season, refurbished. They're

1110
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 4: gonna get under the cap real quick, and it'd be like, okay,

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01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: here we go, and you would expect them to vuy

1112
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Speaker 4: for the division title. Again, that's not a good enough.

1113
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 4: That's not good enough.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Pat and Buffalo next. What's up, Pat?

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Speaker 16: Hey man, what's up? I just want to touch space

1116
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 16: with a couple of things about the Bills, and I

1117
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 16: just want to tell you guys.

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01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 11: I appreciate you guys.

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01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 16: I love listening to you guys the.

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Speaker 11: Show as well.

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Speaker 16: I'm a Denver fan, but obviously I'm from Buffalo. I

1122
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 16: want nothing but the you know that game. When I

1123
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 16: was watching, I was watching, I taught my buddy, like,

1124
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 16: I want Josh Allen to win. You know what I mean,

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01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 16: it's time if Buffalo needs to win, you know, minus

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01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 16: the three takeovers that he did do. I feel like

1127
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 16: it was Sean McDermott's you know, coaching that we had

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01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 16: to switch it up. I don't believe so because you

1129
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 16: you you need to do you need to have a

1130
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 16: key wide receiver? Do you need to have someone who

1131
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 16: could get open? And Josh Allen hasn't had that.

1132
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 11: Some stuff on Diggs.

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01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 16: You know, I don't either. You gotta bring you could

1134
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 16: have got the wide receiver from Miami. You I don't

1135
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 16: understand why they try to go and get George Peakins.

1136
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 16: You know, there's a couple of receivers that you could

1137
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 16: have got for draft picks, and it would have probably

1138
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 16: been a better outcome for the Bills. You put all

1139
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 16: this weight on Josh Allen, you know everything. You take

1140
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 16: Josh Allen off that team, that team is not a

1141
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 16: playoff team.

1142
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 7: That's tough.

1143
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 11: Uh, it's a Miami Dolphins.

1144
01:04:59,040 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 13: You know.

1145
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 16: At the same exact thing is gonna happen. You play

1146
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 16: any any other quarterback on that team and Bills are

1147
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 16: not going to be in the playoffs at all. So

1148
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 16: for Pagoula to say, hey, we got a winning record,

1149
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 16: we got a winning roster, we can win now, we

1150
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 16: definitely do not have a winning roster. You So, let's

1151
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 16: say two years they get a new coach, they hire

1152
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 16: them in two years, it doesn't do anything. What do

1153
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 16: you you fire being now? Or what do you do?

1154
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 16: How do you move on from you know, how do

1155
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 16: you where do.

1156
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 11: You go about that?

1157
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good yeah, and that's a that's a

1158
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 4: good question. We've been talking about that a little bit,

1159
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 4: pat about what's the window going to be for the

1160
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:33,960
Speaker 4: for the guy who follows the guy right who Sean

1161
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 4: mcgerrmott came in and lifted the franchise out of mediocrity

1162
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 4: into contention, perennial contention year after year after year, but

1163
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: never really going that final step. What's the window look

1164
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 4: like for the next guy? With Josh Allen gonna be

1165
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 4: thirty and you gotta win one, and usually a head

1166
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 4: coach quarterback duo, they win it within three years of

1167
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 4: getting together. Right, there's a short window where they're at

1168
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 4: their best where nobody knows how to handle them. They're

1169
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 4: too good, they're too unique, their styles are mesh, whatever

1170
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: it is, that's when it happens. Right, How big is

1171
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 4: the window? And as far as the wide receiver one,

1172
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I played wide receiver for just like

1173
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 4: two seconds in the league, and I'll admit there are

1174
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 4: moments in games when you watch the Bills play with

1175
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 4: like this last regular season, where he's like he needs

1176
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 4: he needs a guy right there in that moment. But

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 4: it's not to me. That wasn't the overriding characteristic of

1178
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 4: this offense. That wasn't I I don't see that as

1179
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 4: a as a glare, big, huge problem. I see it

1180
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 4: as a different They're throwing to Docs and Knox and

1181
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid and James Cook and Ty Johnson instead of

1182
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 4: Keon and Palmer and Khalil, although.

1183
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 3: Also being the number one rush attempt team in the

1184
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: league or number two, I think by the end of

1185
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 3: the season there are fewer passes to go around. Now,

1186
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 3: I don't think all that being said that you can

1187
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 3: debate for a second that the wide receiver production was

1188
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 3: sorely lacking.

1189
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Speaker 4: Absolutely Sola and I'll say this too, And I told

1190
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 4: this Brown of this. Yes, better wide receivers automatically make

1191
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 4: your wide your offense better. So find better guys and

1192
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 4: your offense will get better. I thought the Bills in

1193
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 4: this last off season. I remember this last the last

1194
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 4: off season. I was excited about the wide receiver room

1195
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 4: because they did it the year before with mc hollands.

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Speaker 2: They led the league in points. Yeah, they led the league.

1197
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 4: In points with mac hollins and then Amari Cooper coming

1198
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 4: in halfway through the season, Khalil Shakir, Samuel curt Of Samuel.

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Speaker 4: They did it with those guys. So you come in

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01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: this year with Elijah Moore and Josh Palmer, Khalil Shakir

1201
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 4: and Keon coming into a second and think, Okay, we

1202
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 4: all thought I thought I was gonna get better and

1203
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:11,959
Speaker 4: because of injuries and lack of production, and it didn't.

1204
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 4: So it's one thing to say they didn't have wide receivers,

1205
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 4: and I think we can all agree they wish they'd

1206
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 4: have played better, And yeah, you're right. The question is, man,

1207
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 4: what efforts were put into really fixing it? And they

1208
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 4: put in massive amounts of effort, and now it looks like

1209
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 4: it was all for nothing, and the offense pivoted, and

1210
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 4: the offense pivoted.

1211
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 3: They ran the ball more to a credit to Joe Brady,

1212
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 3: the tight ends, and they used the running back.

1213
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: Credit to Joe Brady. It's a credit to Joe Brady,

1214
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 4: and that they went heavy. They got Jackson Hawes on

1215
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 4: the roster, they put him in and start going three tights.

1216
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 4: They pivoted and made chicken salad. But I'm with you,

1217
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 4: better wide receivers will make your passing game better. Yes,

1218
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 4: And you can hang that right around Brandon Bean's neck

1219
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 4: if you'd want to about how didn't you know the

1220
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 4: wide receivers didn't, tight ends played pretty good and the

1221
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 4: running back was all pro, so I guess he doesn't

1222
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 4: get any credit for that. The offensive line was stellar

1223
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 4: once again, the whole roster is his, not just the

1224
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 4: parts that don't work, the good parts, and the parts

1225
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 4: that are really good are his too, So you kind

1226
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 4: of you got to evaluate all of it. And this

1227
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 4: is a team that won a playoff game every single year.

1228
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 4: It's hard to parse out where you want to lay

1229
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 4: blame and where you want to give credit. None of

1230
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 4: us know the ins and outs of it, but I

1231
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 4: know today in that presser, Terry Pagoula is a guy

1232
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 4: who made it his job to understand and know who

1233
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 4: that was, and he made the movie made.

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Speaker 3: Gotta take a break here, but gonna take more of

1235
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: your phone calls when we get back here. On a

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 3: Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live, presented by Keill out

1237
01:09:49,280 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 3: of health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio, great roster.

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01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: Good coaching, no super Bowl appearance.

1239
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 10: And I can't emphasize if I can put you all

1240
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 10: in that room at that moment after the game, it's like,

1241
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,680
Speaker 10: how do we overcome this? You know, it's been one

1242
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 10: year after another, and that it was the sense of

1243
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 10: how do we overcome this? And I just couldn't see

1244
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:45,640
Speaker 10: us doing that with Shawn. That's why I relieved him.

1245
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 10: It's not an easy decision. Trust me with that success.

1246
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 10: But what is success is success being in the playoffs

1247
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 10: seven years in a row with no Super Bowl appearance.

1248
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 3: That's Bill's owner Terry Pegula today at the press conference

1249
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 3: with he and Brandon Bean in the wake of the

1250
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,440
Speaker 3: firing of head coach Sean McDermott. Uh kind of explaining

1251
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: some of what went on in reaching that decision. And

1252
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 3: we're taking your phone calls at eight o three oh

1253
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 3: five point fifty here this afternoon, so we'll get right

1254
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,679
Speaker 3: back to that in earnest here and go to Gary

1255
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 3: on a sale.

1256
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: What's up, Gary?

1257
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, guess thanksgving a call.

1258
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 17: I want to tell you why I agree with Terry Pegula.

1259
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 17: Change had to happen. How many years have the Bills

1260
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,840
Speaker 17: been touted as a Super Bowl contender? Now they didn't

1261
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 17: even get to a Super Bowl, let alone win one.

1262
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 17: And now Poole comes out and fires McDermott and everyone

1263
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 17: gets all upset. You can't keep saying one more year.

1264
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 17: You got to make a change. It doesn't mean the

1265
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 17: change is going to work out, but you got to

1266
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 17: make a change. I thought McDermott did a great job,

1267
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 17: you know.

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01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear you, Gary. I mean, look we thought

1269
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 3: coach mcdermoty did a great job too. It's hard to

1270
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 3: argue with having the highest win percentage as a head

1271
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 3: coach in team.

1272
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,839
Speaker 4: History, being the only franchise to go to the playoffs

1273
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 4: seven of the last seven years. There's a lot in

1274
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 4: that twelve win seasons, I mean, the whole thing.

1275
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: The results have been very positive, I mean as positive

1276
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 3: as we have seen since Marv Levy was coaching this team.

1277
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 3: And Marv Levy's in the Hall of Fame, as we

1278
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: all know.

1279
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 4: And I know this too, there's a big characteristic going

1280
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 4: on in the aftermath of the press are today that

1281
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 4: this was a rash decision. Terry walked into the locker

1282
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 4: room and said he saw Josh in tears, and he

1283
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 4: saw the guys and saw the emotional outburst of guys

1284
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,800
Speaker 4: who were absolutely spent after playing in that game, and

1285
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 4: the emotional toll it took on all of them, and

1286
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 4: even the way Terry presented it, although he did contextualize

1287
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 4: and it came out differently that this was not a

1288
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 4: decision made just in that moment. It was an in

1289
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 4: total decision about where the franchise has been for nine years,

1290
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 4: where it was and where Sean was able to bring

1291
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 4: it and ultimately where he was not able to bring

1292
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 4: it time and time again. So it wasn't a rash decision,

1293
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:16,759
Speaker 4: emotional decision and Terry by Terry Pagoula. But this last

1294
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 4: locker room that he did, and he's been in it.

1295
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 4: He's in every locker room that he's in attendance for

1296
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 4: the game, which I think maybe every sinking game, I

1297
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 4: don't know, he's he's in every locker room. This one

1298
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 4: was a little different, and the fact that it was

1299
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 4: different maybe that was the thing that put him over

1300
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 4: the edge and said, you know what, we do really

1301
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 4: have to make a change. Don't fool yourselves into thinking

1302
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 4: that after the thirteen second game, or that after any

1303
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: of the other difficult playoff loss last year, the year before,

1304
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 4: all the difficult playoff losses. Don't fool yourself into thinking

1305
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 4: Terry didn't think about this then because he probably he

1306
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 4: didn't say, I take it for granted that he did.

1307
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 4: So I'm this was not a one game reaction to

1308
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 4: what has happened. It was a I think that in

1309
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 4: the context of the press conference, you got the feeling

1310
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 4: and you got the realization that it was a multitude

1311
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 4: of things that went into the decision. It wasn't just

1312
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 4: the fact that Josh was in tears, Dion was in tears.

1313
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 4: It was a more than usual emotional locker room. It

1314
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 4: was a all encompassing decision over the entire era of

1315
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 4: Sean McDermott.

1316
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: And you heard mister say himself, it was not an

1317
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 3: easy decision. And when you have success the level that

1318
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 3: they had the last seven years, it makes the decision

1319
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 3: even harder. But sometimes doing the hard thing is also

1320
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 3: the right It's a huge risk and he said that too.

1321
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 4: It's a huge risk.

1322
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 3: I know it's a risk, but he wants more for

1323
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: this franch You think, well, and that's why he made

1324
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 3: the decision.

1325
01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: You think it's at risk. You know, they may have

1326
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 4: a stinking season. Okay, right, they've they've we've all been

1327
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 4: through those before, right, Think about this, the first season

1328
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 4: in a new stadium that he spent a billion of

1329
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 4: his own money building, and he's gonna have a He's

1330
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 4: gonna want it to stink because he wanted to change

1331
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 4: a head coaching. He wants to win. Yeah, I mean

1332
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 4: he knows, uh yeah, Yeah, it was a difficult decision

1333
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 4: for him. You could tell by the way the conversation

1334
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 4: went with him and Brandon taking questions from the media today,

1335
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,759
Speaker 4: it was I know that social media is not kind

1336
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 4: in these situations because everybody loves throwing darts and slings

1337
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 4: and arrows at that the party's involved. But I'm I'm

1338
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 4: I understand top to bottom where this came from, how

1339
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 4: it works. I've I've been in the affiliated with some

1340
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,439
Speaker 4: sort of a National Football League coverage or team for

1341
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 4: forty years. It doesn't make me smart or anything else.

1342
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 4: But none of this is unusual. Yeah, none of it.

1343
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 2: Let's go to Rick in California and X what's up? Rick?

1344
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 9: Hey, good Afternion, gentlemen, thank you so much for taking

1345
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 9: the call. So I'm on the opposite spectrum of your

1346
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 9: last caller. I totally disagree with the letting go of McDermott,

1347
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 9: and I'll tell you why. I mean, honestly, you could

1348
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 9: bring Bill Parcells, you could bring you know, Vince Lombardi

1349
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 9: to our team. It doesn't matter whoever the head coach is.

1350
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 9: Sooner or later, Josh Allen is going to play that

1351
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 9: stupid hero ball like he likes to do so much,

1352
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 9: and carry the ball like a loaf of bread and

1353
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 9: make mistakes, and that's not on the coaching. You know,

1354
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 9: you don't fire the only guy that came in out

1355
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,720
Speaker 9: of nothing, changed this whole organization around and gave us

1356
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 9: a winning culture. And fire him because you know of

1357
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 9: the performance and the execution of the players. I know

1358
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 9: there has to be a change in then. And I

1359
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 9: believe and I get that, But I think that he

1360
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 9: let go of the wrong person. I think Brandon Bean

1361
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 9: should have been the one let go because he's the

1362
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 9: one given McDermott the weapons to use. Right, So McDermott

1363
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 9: took all these weapons that Bean is is, you know,

1364
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 9: giving him, and he's still making playoff rosters with these people. Look,

1365
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 9: how would you let go with a guy who would

1366
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 9: I'm sorry.

1367
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand the stance you're taking, and it's a

1368
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 3: valid stance to take.

1369
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm not dismissing it.

1370
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 3: At all, But the history of professional sports has gone

1371
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 3: this way for decades. It's usually the head coach, not

1372
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 3: a player it is that gets sent out. I mean,

1373
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: you could go all the way back to Paul west

1374
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 3: Heead and Magic Johnson on the LA Lakers in nineteen eighty.

1375
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 3: They stuck with Magic Johnson and threw the coach overboard.

1376
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 3: There are a myriad of examples through the history of

1377
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: pro sports, and inevitably it's the head coach.

1378
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 2: Right, wrong or indifferent.

1379
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 9: And you're like this, brownie, would you know, going into

1380
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 9: the new stadium and the culture that we already have

1381
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 9: and built and everything, do you want to really tempt

1382
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 9: Faeton pull the tail of the tiger and change everything

1383
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 9: up right now? Because Josh is entering the last years

1384
01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 9: of it, I mean, the second half of his career. Yeah,

1385
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 9: why would we want to spoil that on changing everything

1386
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 9: midway through? And we already know we have a winning

1387
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 9: culture that he just has to perform and execute correctly

1388
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 9: to win the game.

1389
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: And again here's the front Again.

1390
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 3: I respect your point, Rick, and there is value in

1391
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,799
Speaker 3: team culture and I respect it. Don't get that twisted

1392
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 3: at all. I mean, look, Steve and I have a

1393
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 3: ton of respect for what Sean McDermott did here.

1394
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 4: Oh, he's tremendous.

1395
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 3: It was tremendous, absolutely tremendous, and I'm I'm all for

1396
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: you know, I fully.

1397
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: Support the success that he had here. It was great.

1398
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 3: We haven't seen it since Levy. We already said that.

1399
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 3: But in the grand scheme of things. People are remembered

1400
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 3: for rings, and Terry Pagoula wants a ring and a

1401
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 3: championship for this city. And that's why he made what

1402
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: he described today as a difficult decision to try to

1403
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 3: obtain and attain better results in the playoffs. This isn't

1404
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 3: about winning eleven twelve games in the regular season. It's

1405
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 3: about winning in the postseason and making it to the

1406
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 3: Promise Land.

1407
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 4: What you found today too, is especially with the media

1408
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 4: pointing out that the change in structure where the new

1409
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 4: head coach will answer to Brandon instead of Brandon answering

1410
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 4: to Terry and the head coach answering to Terry. You

1411
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 4: see how it was then, because when Sean McDermott was

1412
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 4: hired nine years ago, they didn't have where they had

1413
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 4: Greg Doug Whaley as the GM. They knew Doug wasn't

1414
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 4: going to be around forever. So Sean Sean McDermott answered

1415
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 4: to Terry. When Brandon Bean was brought in, so did

1416
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 4: he so Terry, and I know for a fact he

1417
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 4: does this. Terry made it his job and you could

1418
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 4: kind of tell the investment he has in this with

1419
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 4: his comments about what it was like in the draft room,

1420
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 4: what it was like in scouting meetings and all that stuff.

1421
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 4: He postgame locker room. Terry made it his job to

1422
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 4: understand the problems and complaints and the successes and failures

1423
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 4: of not just his GM, but also as head coach.

1424
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,440
Speaker 4: Each of those guys talked directly to him in countless conversations.

1425
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 4: He alluded to it a number of times in the

1426
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 4: press conference today. He talked to Sean every day at length,

1427
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 4: and he did the same with Brandon, And sometimes all

1428
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 4: three of them were together, and sometimes it was just

1429
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 4: two of them, but he knew them both intimately and

1430
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 4: what their problems were, what their solutions were, what their

1431
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 4: plans were, the whole conversation, from soup to nuts. He

1432
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 4: made it his job to understand the two men that

1433
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 4: he was dealing with. And when push came to shove,

1434
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 4: after all the draft conversations, who picked this player, who

1435
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 4: picked that player? What conversations led to this guy, what

1436
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 4: conversations to that guy, he made the choice. He made

1437
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 4: he's the most informed guy in the room, and he's

1438
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 4: the most informed guy to make that decision because both

1439
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 4: those guys told him their story. So he made the

1440
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 4: call that he made and that's what I trust. That's

1441
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 4: what I trust.

1442
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:22,440
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jim in North Buffalo. It's up, Jim.

1443
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 18: Hey, how are you folks going today?

1444
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 2: Good?

1445
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 4: Good?

1446
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1447
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 18: You know, I I saw the press province. I wish

1448
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 18: I didn't see it and watch it. But you know,

1449
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 18: you know, here's the thing. Buffle is and always will

1450
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 18: be a Pepsi and Coke Town and so forth. Some

1451
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 18: people like Pepsi something like cult. I mean, if if

1452
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 18: mister he walks in there in thirteen seconds and net

1453
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 18: locker room, it had to be a mess. Okay, it

1454
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 18: had to be no doubt about So if you fired him,

1455
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 18: then okay, maybe has a little bit of legitate to it.

1456
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 18: But now this guy dermot duct tape and swis I

1457
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 18: mean nine sheet put it together. So I think on

1458
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 18: that baseball right there, he should have got one more shot.

1459
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 18: And he watched the press properties too, kind of you

1460
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 18: know he did kind of you know Lee Terry here

1461
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:09,759
Speaker 18: Brandon saying here, this is how we put this together.

1462
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 18: You know, the pleatsitation software. McDermott didn't have that right.

1463
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 18: But I want to thank McDermot and his family and

1464
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 18: not go right for the throat mister Tasker, how is

1465
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 18: your buddy Bruce doing.

1466
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 4: Well? Bruce? Yeah, he's fine. He's doing He's on the end.

1467
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 4: He's doing good.

1468
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for the call, Jim. I mean, look, we've

1469
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:32,240
Speaker 2: said it already.

1470
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 3: Sean did a great job here, but we saw the

1471
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 3: decision that Terry Pogoula made very good was not good enough.

1472
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 2: That's where he landed.

1473
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 3: And now, you know, as people who cover this team,

1474
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 3: people who root for this team, you got to move

1475
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 3: forward with the organization and trust that they're going to

1476
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 3: make the best decision possible to be better in the future.

1477
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 3: That's what we all got to hope for at this

1478
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 3: point in time. Let's squeeze Ronnie and West Seneca in

1479
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 3: here before the break.

1480
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 13: What's up, Ronnie, how you guys doing good?

1481
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 19: Hey, I have a question for both years and I'm

1482
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 19: going to ask your response. Maybe you can give a

1483
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 19: little bit of detail. Seem as though we want to

1484
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 19: win a Super Bowl and that's what GOOLA is all about. Well,

1485
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 19: why is it that nobody has brought up defensive coordinator

1486
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 19: from KC that has been there, done it and and

1487
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 19: what I believe would actually be a great candidate for

1488
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 19: a head coach. And he bringing a young offensive coordinator.

1489
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Steve Spagnolle, Yeah, yeah, we talked about him yesterday.

1490
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 4: You're right, I wouldn't be surprised if his name popped up.

1491
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 4: And I don't have a problem we've talked about. You know,

1492
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 4: a lot of people think, well, they're going to get

1493
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 4: an offensive guy. They want one of these. They want

1494
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 4: a Sean McVay, Sean Payton, Andy Reid type of play caller.

1495
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:02,520
Speaker 4: Ben you know, you know McDonald up in Minnesota, Mike

1496
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 4: McDonald in Minnesota, one of those guys. Kevin O'Connell. I'm sorry, Yeah,

1497
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 4: forgive me Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota. I'm not so sold

1498
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 4: on a type. I just I'm like I've said before

1499
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 4: in the show today, the right guy's the right guy.

1500
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 4: Whether he's young, whether he's old, whether he's experience as

1501
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 4: a head coach or whether he's not, whether he's offensive

1502
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 4: or defensive, the right guy's the right guy. There may

1503
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 4: be more than one out there, but they got to

1504
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 4: find one of them. And if there are more than one,

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Speaker 4: and I don't care how old he is, or what

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Speaker 4: he looks like, or whether he's which side of the

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01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 4: ball he cut his teeth on. You got to find

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Speaker 4: the right guy and the club. Really, I think Terry,

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01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 4: and I think for sure Brandon and the rest of

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01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 4: the crew, they really feel the pressure to get it right.

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Speaker 4: I think the pressure's and I think that's why the

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Speaker 4: pool is varied.

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Speaker 3: And I don't even think the full pool has been

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Speaker 3: determined yet because there are teams that are still playing

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01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 3: that they can't talk to or request interviews for. But

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Speaker 3: I think the pool is going to be very very

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01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 3: It's already young, old offense, defense, previous head coaches, first

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Speaker 3: time head coaches. So I think it's going to be

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Speaker 3: very varied because to Steve's point, I don't think they're

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Speaker 3: looking for a type. They're looking for the best leader

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Speaker 3: to fill the post.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break. One segment to go here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: All right, back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 3: Steve Tasker with you as we witnessed the press conference

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Speaker 3: earlier today by Terry Pagoula and Brandon Bean as they

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Speaker 3: laid out how the decision to fire Sean McDermott came

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Speaker 3: to be. And I guess going forward now it's clear

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Speaker 3: and Steve mentioned this already that Brandon Bean does feel

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Speaker 3: the pressure and responsibility of getting this right. And we'll

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Speaker 3: see if the list of coaching candidates that have been

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01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 3: requested for interview expands. But right now, it's Commander's run

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01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 3: game coordinator Anthony Lynn, former Giants head coach Brian Dable,

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Speaker 3: Jaguars offensive coordinator Grant Yudinsky, Dolvin's defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver,

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Speaker 3: Colt's defensive coordinator lou An Romo, and Bill's current offensive

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Speaker 3: coordinator Joe Brady.

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Speaker 2: That's the list to this point.

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Speaker 3: Stay close to Buffalo Bills dot com to see if

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Speaker 3: the list gets longer, and obviously we'll have continuing coverage

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Speaker 3: here when we're back on tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: With Yeah, I would My thought today, I know, it's

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Speaker 4: just it's Wednesday and just happened forty eight hours ago.

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Speaker 4: My thought today is, I'm I don't want to get

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Speaker 4: in this hectic race for the last guy in the room,

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Speaker 4: right I'm I'm perfectly willing to be patient. I think

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Speaker 4: there may be I'm not saying I know who it

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Speaker 4: is or whatever. I don't think the right guy is

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Speaker 4: going to be hired before you're ready to hire him.

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Speaker 4: You're going to have an inkling of who and who

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01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 4: it might be before that's all done. I think getting

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Speaker 4: the right guy is worth waiting an extra week or

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01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 4: two weeks for I'm not in that mode where we

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Speaker 4: might our guy might get hired by somebody else. If

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Speaker 4: I'm still of the mind that if somebody's out there

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Speaker 4: who thinks they might get the job, they ain't signing

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Speaker 4: anything until they say no here. Yeah, I still like

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01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 4: this position better than the ones around the league that

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01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 4: are available. I really do. Because there's one thing I

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01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:42,679
Speaker 4: know about coaches in the NFL. They're looking at Sean

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Speaker 4: McDermott and they're saying, if he can do it, I

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01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 4: can do it better. And if you do it better

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Speaker 4: than McDermott did, that means you could get to a

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01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 4: super Bowl pretty quick. That's the way they think.

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Speaker 3: Brandon Bean did admit that the roster is probably gonna

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Speaker 3: need some tweaks. Did leave open the possibility that if

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Speaker 3: the new head coach coming in the door has some

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01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 3: scheme changes, there could be even more year over year

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01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 3: player turnover than we've seen in recent years, when the

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01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 3: scheme on both sides of the ball has largely remained

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01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 3: the same. That's what happens when you change a head

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01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 3: coach and potentially the balance of a coaching staff. So

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Speaker 3: we'll have to wait and see. But that's a couple

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Speaker 3: of steps down the line here. They got to get

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Speaker 3: through this initial interview process, then whittle that list down

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Speaker 3: to second, maybe even third interviews. It's a process, and

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Speaker 3: I think it is going to take a couple of

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Speaker 3: weeks due to the fact that I believe there are

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Speaker 3: probably some people on their list that they can't talk

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Speaker 3: to right now because they're still playing football. We'll uncover

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Speaker 3: all of that in the days and weeks ahead. We'll

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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow at one here on one Bill's Live