Speaker 1: The Knickki Glaser Podcast.
Speaker 2: Niki Glaser, Nikki, Hello here, I am welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: It's the Nikki Glazer Podcast. I'm Nikki Glazer. I'm in
Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Brian Frangie is in Los Angeles again. You're
Speaker 2: back home back after the holiday. Then are you going
Speaker 2: out again for the holiday?
Speaker 1: Back there?
Speaker 3: I'm going to Chicago for Christmas? To all that makes sense?
Speaker 1: The old switch, the old switch Aroo.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Someone had a tweet that like said something about Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: and Christmas being so close together is fucking insane. For
Speaker 2: how we have to see these people that close together.
Speaker 2: I forget whose tweet it was.
Speaker 3: It was someone home for a full month. I went
Speaker 3: just back full time, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Why not just stay? It's Christmas
Speaker 2: is here and Thanksgiving was yesterday.
Speaker 3: Christmas Time one of the best Christmas songs of all time.
Speaker 2: I really like Christmas Time. But we'll get into that
Speaker 2: in a second. Noah is here from Arizona. Hey, Noah, Hi, Hey,
Speaker 2: And we have a special guest today, a really good
Speaker 2: friend of mine who I don't get to hang out
Speaker 2: with us nearly as much as I would want to.
Speaker 1: I feel like if we were in the same city.
Speaker 2: We'd beginning we'd be like, I don't know, whenever I
Speaker 2: would run unto you, it just is like so easy
Speaker 2: to hang out with you. So it was an instant
Speaker 2: yes when I heard that you wanted to come on
Speaker 2: the pod and like talk about your new special coming up.
Speaker 4: It's Carmen Lean, thank you, greetings from Astoria, greeting.
Speaker 1: What stop on the Are you the last? The laugh
Speaker 1: on me too?
Speaker 2: I was dit Mars you can fall asleep thirty six
Speaker 2: and dit Mars you could fall asleep on that train
Speaker 2: and not worry about missing your stops.
Speaker 1: It'll just hit it.
Speaker 4: And it sucks because the stop before stops for like
Speaker 4: ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Do you ever notice that? It's like, oh yeah, can
Speaker 1: you stop at the end? Yes?
Speaker 2: I loved that stop. I love Tavernat yeah yeah. And
Speaker 2: there was a Starbucks that I frequented many times. There's
Speaker 2: a CVS that's enjoyable. I loved that. I like that train.
Speaker 2: By the way, the n Q is like clean. I
Speaker 2: like those blue seats. It feels like it's probably my
Speaker 2: favorite train.
Speaker 4: It's still are Yeah, there's a it's still oh no,
Speaker 4: that's the or that's the previous stop the staples.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but.
Speaker 4: You would die now. And there's there they just opened
Speaker 4: up Burlington. They're putting in a target. There's an eye hog.
Speaker 1: It looks like a lall. Now it's crazy. They're not
Speaker 1: messing around. It was already like up and coming.
Speaker 2: But they've just fucking committed to Like that's there's tons
Speaker 2: of people at that end there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now a target.
Speaker 2: I would always get scared to go to targets in
Speaker 2: New York City because it just seems like it would
Speaker 2: just be so picked over, so run.
Speaker 1: Down, so chaotic. But I love a target so much.
Speaker 2: And I I always say that if you get out
Speaker 2: of a target without spending eighty dollars, you spent no
Speaker 2: money at target. Like if it's under eighty dollars, it's
Speaker 2: zero money spent. Yeah, but eighty is what like you
Speaker 2: have to at least spend eighty at a time.
Speaker 1: That's where I feel like, oh my gosh, it less
Speaker 1: than eighty. This is I just won money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't even have to go into the
Speaker 4: city now to go shopping. Like if you need something,
Speaker 4: there's also a tech yeah too.
Speaker 2: Oh Burlington and TJ Max. I mean and because Burlington
Speaker 2: they're more than greatcoats. I've heard that now they they
Speaker 2: do more. It's like TJ Max pretty much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much for Nordstrom, it's I mean, they're all
Speaker 4: pretty much the same.
Speaker 2: They're just you feel like you're bargain hunting. You feel
Speaker 2: like you like are kind of thrifting in a way
Speaker 2: because it's so much different stuff and you can find
Speaker 2: good things because some of the sale racks are really disheveled.
Speaker 2: So there isn't an element to it that makes you
Speaker 2: feel like you're like combing for good deals like searching
Speaker 2: through a landfill, which you pretty much are searching through
Speaker 2: a future landfill. But it isn't that like the kind
Speaker 2: of the appeal of the Nordstrom rack or the TJ
Speaker 2: Max or the Burlington or the Raw Stress for less,
Speaker 2: is that there is a thrifting element to it.
Speaker 1: Oh totally. And I love that you call it raw
Speaker 1: stress for least, not just ross, Like, yeah, that's like,
Speaker 1: I don't go there, it's just an la. I don't know, man.
Speaker 2: I guess someone called it rd f l ur DFL.
Speaker 2: Someone was calling it the summer and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that sounds cool. Yeah, it's those places. And then thrifting
Speaker 2: just makes your hands feel dirty. So that's where I thrifting.
Speaker 2: My hands feel musty at the end of it, going
Speaker 2: through so much wrecks and then your hand's hurt. You
Speaker 2: get like cardio from it. And then going to a
Speaker 2: departments or a place that just has a couple clothes,
Speaker 2: like if we're talking like a Nordstrom, that is not
Speaker 2: like you're not digging.
Speaker 1: You're not.
Speaker 2: You don't feel like you've struck gold when you find
Speaker 2: something good, Well, it's so layed out for you.
Speaker 1: It's so cheap that it feels good to go through it.
Speaker 4: Like I don't like go into the expensive places, Like
Speaker 4: if I have to go to somewhere pricey, I'd rather
Speaker 4: just do that.
Speaker 1: Stitch fix. Do you ever do stitch fix?
Speaker 2: I did it a couple times, like in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 2: where they kind of pick out outfits for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then if you don't like them, you just
Speaker 4: shove them into a bag and send them back.
Speaker 1: I have success with it when I did it.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I haven't done it again because
Speaker 2: I did wear those things for a really long time.
Speaker 2: That's so nice too, because shopping is exhausting and hell,
Speaker 2: how often do you open your closet even after a
Speaker 2: like you recently think you spend a lot of money
Speaker 2: in clothes and you go, I have nothing to wear.
Speaker 2: It's like it's it's yeah, it is. Shopping is hell.
Speaker 2: And Noah, we've talked about how you're like, I don't
Speaker 2: know how to dress like a woman my age, and
Speaker 2: I realized, like we don't need to. I was realizing,
Speaker 2: like the way the how old you are is how old?
Speaker 2: And I know people have said this before. This isn't novel,
Speaker 2: but it's really like how old you feel? Like I
Speaker 2: talk about we were talking I think we talked about
Speaker 2: on the podcast, or maybe it wasn't about. Some woman
Speaker 2: had a brain injury that like a like a steel
Speaker 2: rod went through her brain and damaged a part of
Speaker 2: her brain that gave her short term memory, and so
Speaker 2: she would restart it constantly and she instantly became an
Speaker 2: ultra Marazon runner because she couldn't. She always thought she
Speaker 2: had just started the marathon. So if you always think
Speaker 2: you just start something, your body can go way longer.
Speaker 2: So much of so much of your mental or your
Speaker 2: physical fatigue is based on the fact that you know,
Speaker 2: I've been running twenty miles.
Speaker 1: I have five to go. My body's falling apart.
Speaker 2: But if you were to have a brain that just
Speaker 2: even with your same amount of effort you put in,
Speaker 2: have a brain that thinks you just started running, you
Speaker 2: will have more stamina. So I think that applies to
Speaker 2: aging too, Like if you dress and act young and
Speaker 2: like actually feel like you're young, you'll you'll kind of
Speaker 2: look it like you'll possess.
Speaker 3: I've seen some old folks dressed young and they look silly.
Speaker 1: I think they're not really they're not owning it then, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it only looks weird.
Speaker 4: It looks weird to see like a seventy year old
Speaker 4: woman I like Forever twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is Dolly Parton even and you were just like,
Speaker 2: oh honey, that's not comfortable.
Speaker 3: About like a fifty nine year old man with a
Speaker 3: baseball cap, sandals and like a v neck who has
Speaker 3: like children. I just feel like when I see a
Speaker 3: guy like that, I'm like, man, you are you're in
Speaker 3: the wrong decade here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some people are holding on to dress
Speaker 2: the wardrobe that they had. Yeah, they're holding onto the
Speaker 2: wardrobe that they had when they had the most clothes
Speaker 2: and they're the most comfortable in it. It was like
Speaker 2: they thought, I'm not trying to disparage them.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it does look silly, but you have
Speaker 3: to be okay with that. But I am going to
Speaker 3: disparage any man who wears sandals at any time for
Speaker 3: any reason, even the beach.
Speaker 1: Never your man should never wear sandalst care how I
Speaker 1: don't mind flip flops on a guy.
Speaker 4: No, that's cave at the beach, but not like do
Speaker 4: you ever go, like when you're on stage, Nikki and
Speaker 4: you look down in the front guy they're wearing flip.
Speaker 1: Flops and they put it. They put their feet on
Speaker 1: stage all the fucking time. It's a control thing. Like
Speaker 1: it is a control thing.
Speaker 2: This guy the other day, he like had a he
Speaker 2: said some line that was actually kind of helpful. It
Speaker 2: was like a good tag or something, and I go,
Speaker 2: I'll allow you to.
Speaker 1: Keep your fucking foot on. I was like, you've.
Speaker 2: Earned that, that entitled stance that you already had before
Speaker 2: you even said that nice thing. But yeah, there there's
Speaker 2: always it's rarely a woman putting her foot up on
Speaker 2: the stage to got that say.
Speaker 1: They talked wo talk. It would be like like, yeah,
Speaker 1: women are so chatty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to you last night, I had some chatterboxes
Speaker 2: just trying to help or just I think they were
Speaker 2: just jazzed about part like they were just like yes,
Speaker 2: girl like, which is a nice thing.
Speaker 3: But I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they it was distracting, but they didn't know
Speaker 2: they were just And then it ended up being funny
Speaker 2: because I talked to them, but and I think insulted
Speaker 2: one of them because they were both like. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: look at these young this young girl, and then they
Speaker 2: were both kind of together and and the other one
Speaker 2: piped up and said something like we're young, and I go,
Speaker 2: not you. I was talking to her and she felt
Speaker 2: so much she was older than the other girl, and
Speaker 2: I was like, I wasn't looking at you.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I wasn't not saying you look bad.
Speaker 3: But the proportion of men who put their foot on
Speaker 3: the stage to women is the same as the proportion
Speaker 3: of men to women in the lineup.
Speaker 1: In a line like in a in the show and.
Speaker 2: The show Yeah, oh interesting, possibly a lot of math.
Speaker 1: I had to think about that one for a second.
Speaker 2: Carman as a female comic, and this sounds like I'm
Speaker 2: starting out as a joke, but like, I'm actually commenting
Speaker 2: on the question that we get a lot about being
Speaker 2: female comics, are we My answer is always like yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: My answer is always I just I never like thought
Speaker 2: of myself. I only recently thought of myself as like,
Speaker 2: I'm a female comic this, and I guess recently meaning
Speaker 2: the past seven years. But I always just was like,
Speaker 2: I guess I was living under the susumption that everyone
Speaker 2: viewed me the same that they view male comics.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: I didn't even think of anything different about it until
Speaker 2: people made it a thing, and then I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I guess it's the special thing. And I flipped it
Speaker 2: into being like, oh, it's nice because there's less of us,
Speaker 2: so you stand out more, and like there's good things
Speaker 2: about less women doing, even though I think that's bad overall.
Speaker 2: And also it's special because all my favorite comics are
Speaker 2: mainly female comics, and so I'm like, oh, I'm in
Speaker 2: a category of the ones I like the most.
Speaker 1: But what do you do with that question? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think about it either.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like being in New York
Speaker 4: and you're just surrounded by so many comics but I
Speaker 4: don't think about it until someone brings it up.
Speaker 1: And now especially it's not even a thing.
Speaker 4: There's so many female comics that really it just feels
Speaker 4: like after COVID, like, yeah, there's a million more comics
Speaker 4: and a million funnier people, and a lot of them
Speaker 4: are women.
Speaker 1: So I don't even think about it. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: good point. I do you ever.
Speaker 2: I was having like a little bit of an existential
Speaker 2: moment this weekend with Emil Joaquin my opener this weekend.
Speaker 2: We were like talking about, like do you ever think
Speaker 2: about like you have to like go on stage and
Speaker 2: like all these people are staring at you and like
Speaker 2: you're up there and you have to like talk for
Speaker 2: an hour and like entertain them, and how fucking we
Speaker 2: it is. And I was like, he says something about that,
Speaker 2: and I go, Emil, I never let that in, Like.
Speaker 1: I know that beginning of that thought. I don't fu.
Speaker 1: And this is the difference.
Speaker 2: I think this is the difference between people who look
Speaker 2: at comedians and go I could never do that, and comedians.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's for every comedian. I don't
Speaker 2: even I talked about Fargo last week and how I
Speaker 2: don't think about that mass man with the hammer, like
Speaker 2: I just put him out of my he goes, he
Speaker 2: shows up in my mind and I go, I'm not
Speaker 2: letting you in, because if I let you in, I'm
Speaker 2: not sleeping tonight.
Speaker 1: So the same thing with thinking about.
Speaker 2: How I'm on stage talking and everyone is just like
Speaker 2: wrapped with attention, quiet.
Speaker 1: Staring at me.
Speaker 2: If I let that in too much, I will implow
Speaker 2: that's insane.
Speaker 1: Who the fuck would ever do that? No, because once
Speaker 1: you start thinking that way, you can't get it out
Speaker 1: of your head.
Speaker 4: Like if I put a sweater on and then I'm like,
Speaker 4: what if I sweat on stage? I'm like, forget it now,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna think about sweating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the second you realize you forgot deodorant, yeah,
Speaker 2: start being drenched in it.
Speaker 1: It's all mental.
Speaker 2: But I think it is interesting because I think so
Speaker 2: many people watch comedians and go, wow, I could never
Speaker 2: do that. That all those people are watching you, Like
Speaker 2: that's what you get told by people who you know,
Speaker 2: your friends and family, who go, I can't believe you
Speaker 2: can do it, all those people staring at you, and
Speaker 2: you go, actually, I don't know how I do it either,
Speaker 2: because that's fucking terrible.
Speaker 1: It's not that I'm not terrified of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just I read something last night actually that
Speaker 2: Oh I'm reading this book called Letting Go, and it's
Speaker 2: he talks about a fear of public speaking, and he
Speaker 2: realized he had a huge fear of public speaking, and
Speaker 2: he realized the fear turned into I can't, like he
Speaker 2: was really just scared of it. So then he started saying,
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I'm just one of these people
Speaker 2: that doesn't. I can't do it. My voice goes away,
Speaker 2: I start shaking. I'm different than everyone else. And then
Speaker 2: he started kind of challenging that and being like, is
Speaker 2: it that I can't or is it that I won't
Speaker 2: because I'm scared of all the things that could happen.
Speaker 2: And then, which I thought was a really good advice
Speaker 2: for anyone who's scared of public speaking, he started thinking
Speaker 2: about how most public speakers are boring, Like his big
Speaker 2: fear was being boring to someone and have people go like, oh,
Speaker 2: this sucks, and he's like, well, and I think of
Speaker 2: all the speeches I've listened to in my life, most
Speaker 2: have been boring. And I don't hate those people. They're
Speaker 2: still alive, living good life. Nothing happened if you're boring,
Speaker 2: so just do it. And so then he started doing
Speaker 2: it and not being just releasing the fear, which is
Speaker 2: easier said than done, but he just was like, fear
Speaker 2: is a thing that I'm choosing to focus on. If
Speaker 2: I release it, it's not there. It's only there if
Speaker 2: I make it in my mind. So I'm gonna let
Speaker 2: it go and I'm gonna do it. And then he
Speaker 2: started doing public seeking. He got obviously more adept at
Speaker 2: it and was like it was easier, and then he
Speaker 2: started saying one time he had that fear again of
Speaker 2: being boring, and so right before he talked, he was like,
Speaker 2: I'm not the best public speaker, but I can assure you.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: He was getting feedback that he was boring, like his
Speaker 2: biggest fear, and then he survived it, right, and he
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I guess I'm a boring speaker, but
Speaker 2: at least I can do this thing I said I
Speaker 2: couldn't do before and I'm boring, but who cares.
Speaker 1: He literally heard back that he was boring his biggest fear.
Speaker 1: He survived it.
Speaker 2: So then the next time he gets on stage, he
Speaker 2: goes I've been told I'm a decent public speaker, but
Speaker 2: I've been told I am one of the most boring
Speaker 2: speakers that you'll ever listen to.
Speaker 1: And everyone laughed, and he goes.
Speaker 2: The second they all laughed, I realized I had made
Speaker 2: a human connection with everyone in the room, and the
Speaker 2: gift of laughter and being able to incite that laughter
Speaker 2: made us all one and all connected. And I realized
Speaker 2: that their laughter meant they were rooting for me. They
Speaker 2: were on my side, which is always the advice I
Speaker 2: give about public speaking is that no one wants to
Speaker 2: see you do bad unless there's like an evil person
Speaker 2: in the.
Speaker 1: Back of the room.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean I had public speaking fears where
Speaker 2: I was and like had to give I had to
Speaker 2: go in during recess to give my presentations because my
Speaker 2: parents called ahead and said, Nikki cannot talk in front
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 1: Wow, and she won't Wow. Really, I'm sorry, go ahead,
Speaker 1: go ahead, No, No, that's it, bitch. All I started,
Speaker 1: I was standing. I started stand up, though.
Speaker 4: Were you nervous, Like I was so nervous, and people
Speaker 4: are like, I could never do that, I'd be so nervous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were nervous. Yeah, we had to overcome it.
Speaker 2: It was like a desire to do it was like,
Speaker 2: that's standing though.
Speaker 3: The wolves.
Speaker 2: You sign up like you sign up if like Noah,
Speaker 2: you just don't have the desire to be heard enough
Speaker 2: to overcome it. Yeah, is what I'm saying, Like we
Speaker 2: all have exactly what you have, but we have this
Speaker 2: thing of like I want I need to be heard
Speaker 2: so bad or I want to perform so badly that
Speaker 2: I'm going to overcome this fear of whatever where you
Speaker 2: haven't done in certain ways in your life because the
Speaker 2: desire had been stronger than the fear.
Speaker 3: I would imagine you really just have to do it
Speaker 3: a surgeon. Like when I think of a surgeon cutting
Speaker 3: into somebody or doing an open hard surgery, I'm like,
Speaker 3: how the fuck do you trust yourself to do that?
Speaker 3: How could you dig into someone's body and do that thing?
Speaker 3: And then it's just like well, after you do it
Speaker 3: like thirty times, it's just like a pile of meat.
Speaker 1: They just have a desire to cut. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually have operated on my mom's corn one time
Speaker 2: with a razor I bought on Amazon, a scalpel I
Speaker 2: bought on Amazon because I like am obsessed with watching
Speaker 2: videos of people getting their like foot corns dugout like
Speaker 2: it's just soothing to me, Carmen, it's weird. So I thought,
Speaker 2: based on me watching all these videos, I thought I
Speaker 2: had like an expertise, and I cut my mom's foot
Speaker 2: just very like nicked it a little bit and it
Speaker 2: is still not healed and it's like two and a
Speaker 2: half years later.
Speaker 1: Wow, guys, it was bad. I had the confidence of
Speaker 1: a surgeon.
Speaker 3: This is TikTok's problem. Everyone thinks they're confident enough to
Speaker 3: do anything just watching for you. Oh YouTube, same same thig.
Speaker 1: Did you radio tape? Did you video tape and put
Speaker 1: it up? No? That would have been good, though.
Speaker 2: I needed, like god, if I would have made content
Speaker 2: out of it, all of.
Speaker 3: Those videos on YouTube where they're doing self help or
Speaker 3: how to and they're like, you can do it too.
Speaker 3: All you have to do is follow these steps. You
Speaker 3: can't do it. Do not follow the steps. You're gonna
Speaker 3: cut your mom's foot off, go to a professional.
Speaker 2: Until then, man, I was so satisfied though. It felt
Speaker 2: so good. I there have been because I have obsessions
Speaker 2: with like digging someone's like war out, Like Carmen, it's weird,
Speaker 2: but I don't think more.
Speaker 1: Like popping something. No, no, I'm not into popping.
Speaker 2: I'm into like a dried out, crusty bore that I
Speaker 2: just want to like dig off the callus skin and
Speaker 2: like dig it out. It's it's my obsession. Like if
Speaker 2: I if I could pay to go do it, I would,
Speaker 2: but you need like a medical license.
Speaker 1: But I swear to god. There was a fan one
Speaker 1: time who came to the show, and I'm how excited
Speaker 1: she gets when she talks about this.
Speaker 2: I love this, and she she was like, I've got
Speaker 2: She sent me pictures of her planner war like. She
Speaker 2: was like, I will let you dig this out backstage
Speaker 2: like I don't care, and I was like I want to.
Speaker 2: It was almost like I felt like I was cheating,
Speaker 2: Like someone was like being like it was like zach
Speaker 2: Evron being like I'll let you fuck me, like I'm
Speaker 2: here to fuck you.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to so bad.
Speaker 2: It's not that I don't want to, I just can't
Speaker 2: because I will ruin everything. Mickey read It felt like
Speaker 2: this dilemma inside me.
Speaker 1: You have so many fans.
Speaker 4: I bet you anything, people would line up to let
Speaker 4: you pop.
Speaker 1: There's there whatever I know.
Speaker 2: But I can't because I'm gonna I'm gonna give them
Speaker 2: an injury that will they'll be walking around with for
Speaker 2: two years. Like I'm not good at this, Like I
Speaker 2: need to go learn I need to do with a podiatrist.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's how people learn to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wish there was like community college courses,
Speaker 1: like I don't have to go to.
Speaker 4: You just need a tube of meospourn and warm water
Speaker 4: and super glue.
Speaker 1: You're right, Okay, you.
Speaker 3: Don't even really know what the credentials are of the
Speaker 3: YouTube person you watch. That could have just been some.
Speaker 1: Person all doctors. It's doctor foot fixer.
Speaker 3: That's what they say.
Speaker 1: Doctor trust in an office.
Speaker 2: Yes, there are people that go in they talk like doctors.
Speaker 2: They're like narcissistics like doctors. They seem sociopathic in a
Speaker 2: certain way. These are exactly the people you should trusts
Speaker 2: doctor's foot fixer.
Speaker 3: I am authorizing you to do surgery on your mother?
Speaker 1: Was that name not taken before?
Speaker 2: They have never get told us how to do it.
Speaker 2: They are just talking about it because they know that
Speaker 2: we're at home jerking off to this stuff. Like they
Speaker 2: know they always do it instructionally, Like this is how
Speaker 2: to do it if you're another doctor watching. But it's
Speaker 2: really like, you know, there are sickos at home like me,
Speaker 2: just drooling over you cutting out this old woman's sport
Speaker 2: and her talking about her afternoon.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's fucking sick, but I long for it.
Speaker 1: That content.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have more with Carmen Lynch and about her
Speaker 2: two comedy specials that are coming out on YouTube on
Speaker 2: Mark Norman's YouTube page. One is coming out the fifteenth,
Speaker 2: and then the other or sorry, the twelfth versus The
Speaker 2: twelfth is the English version, and then there is a
Speaker 2: Spanish version coming out the fifteenth, and those are all
Speaker 2: on Mark Norman's YouTube page.
Speaker 1: It's not the Spanish. He's not getting the Spanish one.
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding Spanish. A Spanish platform called Feeling Mean,
Speaker 4: Feel Mean Feel are filming filming Feeling Me.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Okay, well we'll get into all that when
Speaker 1: we get back with Carmen Lynch after this. All right,
Speaker 1: we're back.
Speaker 2: Carmen Lynch has two specials coming out, one in English,
Speaker 2: one in Spanish. The English one you can check out
Speaker 2: almost so soon on the twelfth. What's the what's the day?
Speaker 1: Of that. That's a Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Oh so Tuesday the twelfth. Check that out on Mark
Speaker 2: Norman's YouTube page. And you should be following Mark Norman anyway,
Speaker 2: so you'll see it once you do that.
Speaker 1: And then where did you film it? At the cellar
Speaker 1: at the v at the Village Underground?
Speaker 3: Nice?
Speaker 1: And what did you do?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Okay, because I'm about to tape a special right on
Speaker 2: the sixteenth, so I'm in like a special prep mode.
Speaker 2: Tell me, I'm gonna make this about me, even though
Speaker 2: this should be about you, but I I just because
Speaker 2: I want to.
Speaker 1: I'm like dying. My life is special? Right now?
Speaker 2: Was your life a week and a half out of
Speaker 2: taping your special?
Speaker 1: Special? Like?
Speaker 2: Is your life? Like every time you close your eyes
Speaker 2: you're thinking about it? Every time you open your eyes,
Speaker 2: there's something to work on. Oh my god, what am
Speaker 2: I gonna wear?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? What am I gonna do? This joke?
Speaker 1: But like, how's the order? How am I going to
Speaker 1: remember that? All that? Was it? All that?
Speaker 4: But it was like the day I booked the date
Speaker 4: at the Village Underground, so like six months before or
Speaker 4: like four monthssion, Well, think about it because like this
Speaker 4: is my first one you've done a ton, so.
Speaker 1: God, that surprises me. That's okay.
Speaker 2: Yes, albums are similar, but yes, special obviously a lot
Speaker 2: more pressure. It's yeah, there's a lot writing on this,
Speaker 2: there's someone who's producing it, all these things.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
Speaker 4: And I wanted to do it before COVID, and then
Speaker 4: COVID happened, and then I just kind of pushed it, like,
Speaker 4: you know, I did a bunch of late nights and
Speaker 4: I just was in that mentality where like, things just happened,
Speaker 4: so I wasn't in the mode of like, no, you
Speaker 4: got to do it yourself.
Speaker 1: And I kept.
Speaker 4: Pushing that back and pushing that back, and then I
Speaker 4: read The War of Arts.
Speaker 1: Did you ever read that? Oh? Boy? I was in
Speaker 1: a story on when I read that book. I was
Speaker 1: at that store bucks reading that book.
Speaker 3: I think when we read that book.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god, it was all about resistance.
Speaker 4: And then I wanted to do the book out the
Speaker 4: window because everything he said was resistance.
Speaker 1: I was doing, oh, every little thing, and I was.
Speaker 2: Like, I remember putting down the book because I'm like,
Speaker 2: reading this book is me resisting work.
Speaker 1: Like, don't you know?
Speaker 2: Like I eventually put it down because I was like
Speaker 2: now I feel bad even fucking reading a book because I.
Speaker 1: Should be working right now.
Speaker 2: Like this is just me trying to create an obstacle
Speaker 2: from doing what I need to do because of fear again,
Speaker 2: fear and in the guilt.
Speaker 4: Like I painted a lot during COVID, and I had
Speaker 4: that voice that was like, what do you Why are
Speaker 4: you enjoying your life?
Speaker 1: You should be writing at jocks and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to paint. Leave me alone, dude.
Speaker 2: I mean it's That's the problem with comedy or doing
Speaker 2: stand up comedy or any kind of job that you
Speaker 2: don't leave at work, is that when you are not
Speaker 2: you could be working on it any time, So there
Speaker 2: is never y. It's like having kids or having a
Speaker 2: dog that's constantly looking at you, like you just took
Speaker 2: it for a walk, but it's like, but we could
Speaker 2: go again, and you go, okay, I feel now I'm
Speaker 2: guilty again, even though I think I just did this.
Speaker 1: There's it never ending guilts.
Speaker 3: You're also if you're not a made person, like you're
Speaker 3: also just have to constantly be working just to see
Speaker 3: if you get paid at all.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't stop and then you go home.
Speaker 4: I mean you you just leave the room or wherever
Speaker 4: you are and you're like, okay, stop and then you're like, no,
Speaker 4: it's still going.
Speaker 1: I'm still Oh my god.
Speaker 2: You know, Carmen, it's interesting to me because I do
Speaker 2: relate to you know, it's just been I guess kind
Speaker 2: of have been floating along. I don't have to I
Speaker 2: get I get the I've had that in my life too,
Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, things are coming in. I was
Speaker 2: on least coming standing, as were you tonight's show appearances.
Speaker 2: You you have little letterman. Conan's like like, I'm working
Speaker 2: at your working regular at the seller, Like I'm not
Speaker 2: like really wanting for like the the next thing will
Speaker 2: come when they email me about it. And I think
Speaker 2: I was at that point too, at a certain point
Speaker 2: where I was like, oh no, they unless you make it.
Speaker 2: You gotta build it if you want them to come,
Speaker 2: like this, or just saying totally.
Speaker 4: Not coming, they're not coming, Like that was the day
Speaker 4: where I was like, they're not coming.
Speaker 1: Just they're not coming. Just do it, just do it,
Speaker 1: you know what you have to lose.
Speaker 4: And then I did the Spanish one because I was
Speaker 4: so obsessed with the English one. I was like I
Speaker 4: need something to just calm me down. Why didn't I
Speaker 4: just do it in Spanish?
Speaker 1: Tape first the.
Speaker 4: Village Underground, and then three weeks later I went to
Speaker 4: Spain and I shot up the Spanish one.
Speaker 1: Wow, oh my god.
Speaker 3: So is it the is the material the same and
Speaker 3: just one's in a different language or is it totally different?
Speaker 4: It's about seven I'd say it's about seventy five percent
Speaker 4: the same.
Speaker 3: Can you give me an example of one English joke
Speaker 3: that you needed to like change the syntax or the
Speaker 3: words of in Spanish so that it would be funny,
Speaker 3: because it wouldn't have been funny otherwise.
Speaker 4: I mean not so I ahead, but it would just
Speaker 4: be more like I flipped the words around, or I
Speaker 4: had to describe a little bit more sometimes like the subtleties,
Speaker 4: the subtleties or the sarcasm, they don't translate.
Speaker 1: And also I grew up.
Speaker 4: In Spain until I was eight, so my Spanish is
Speaker 4: like that's the first thing I say when I get
Speaker 4: on stage.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I talk like an eight.
Speaker 4: Year old Spanish girl, Like, yeah, I'm eight, So my
Speaker 4: my version of translated is different from eight year old's
Speaker 4: vocabulary and They're like, no, we love it because I
Speaker 4: used to be obsessed with like this is wrong. I
Speaker 4: need to talk to a Spanish person who speaks like
Speaker 4: an adult.
Speaker 1: And they were like, just leave it, it's cute, Like
Speaker 1: just do yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's so many comedians that kind of do in English
Speaker 2: only acts. They don't use words above a eight year
Speaker 2: old great, Like you can get by with just the
Speaker 2: words you know and be extremely funny. Like Nate's whole
Speaker 2: thing is being just a dumb guy. You know, like
Speaker 2: I'm kind of dumb even though he's a genius, and
Speaker 2: you hear it in the material. He's not used he's
Speaker 2: saying reading stupid, He's he's using simple words he's confused by.
Speaker 2: Like that's a perfect example of someone who is like,
Speaker 2: can still be genius while operating in it in a
Speaker 2: quote unquote a little bit of a dumber vote. Not
Speaker 2: that I don't know, he probably does use big words
Speaker 2: better than an eight year old, but like, you can
Speaker 2: still be hilarious with it.
Speaker 4: Totally, and and he can get all of America that way,
Speaker 4: because then he can get the dumb people too.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it more accessible.
Speaker 2: We could talk about Nate being clean and that's why
Speaker 2: he's accessible, but he's you know, also appealing to He's no,
Speaker 2: he's not dumb obviously, talk to everyone. He knows how
Speaker 2: to talk dumb speaking, Yeah, yeah, and I'm a.
Speaker 3: Dumb guy, and then he communications I'm.
Speaker 1: I I agree.
Speaker 2: I think that there's sometimes I'm like, I want to
Speaker 2: use a big word because it just like really says
Speaker 2: what I want to say, and it just sounds good.
Speaker 2: I like big words sometimes not to be like I'm
Speaker 2: so smart, but then if they're alienating, you can't do it.
Speaker 2: But I also just trust an audience if they don't
Speaker 2: know a word to be like, they're not like is
Speaker 2: she an alien?
Speaker 1: Like she said something wrong? They're just gonna go, that's
Speaker 1: a word. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's really funny to me when people hear a reference
Speaker 2: that's being made in a joke or a word being
Speaker 2: used and they like act confused like.
Speaker 1: Well what was that? It's like, don't you just know
Speaker 1: you don't know what that was?
Speaker 2: If everyone else laughed like, that's always a confusing thing
Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, not everyone gets every reference, and
Speaker 2: that's it's hard to make everything relatable. Sometimes it is
Speaker 2: fun to just have a joke that only certain people
Speaker 2: might might get and they can go and they laugh
Speaker 2: like super loud, to be like I know Rick and
Speaker 2: Morny And you're like, okay, like I'm a freaking Morny
Speaker 2: fan or.
Speaker 4: Whatever about that with me because I'm not going to
Speaker 4: use big words in Spanish.
Speaker 2: And you're, yeah, well, I'm excited to see your English
Speaker 2: speaking uh, specially you have. You are just so funny
Speaker 2: and so well. I mean, you're honest and like I
Speaker 2: like that You're just realistic about what you talk from
Speaker 2: a realistic perspective and in maybe a little bit of
Speaker 2: a not even negative but kind of like it is
Speaker 2: what it is kind of perspective. What is the what
Speaker 2: are the major themes coming from this material? And is
Speaker 2: it stuff that you had been working on since COVID?
Speaker 2: Is it like did you find that like, well, this
Speaker 2: is what I did. I guess my question is because
Speaker 2: I'm worried about this. Are you saying something with your
Speaker 2: special when you got done with it where you like, oh,
Speaker 2: I can see a through line of like this is
Speaker 2: what I need to say at this point in my life.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a through line, but it does
Speaker 4: all connect with the previous joke. Yes, and then I
Speaker 4: because it's my first one. I it's it's almost like
Speaker 4: you realize so much your learning curve is so big,
Speaker 4: because like I used to not be lazy, but I
Speaker 4: would just like I always wrote new jokes, but I
Speaker 4: would go on the road and just do my hour
Speaker 4: but not really have an order. Like I'd be like,
Speaker 4: as long as I do those five jokes, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: do whatever, the.
Speaker 2: Help anything atween never I don't write down any literally, Carmen,
Speaker 2: I don't write down anything.
Speaker 1: It's not it's a nightmare.
Speaker 2: To plan a special and I just I always call
Speaker 2: it a grab bag when I'm on stage, Like, yes,
Speaker 2: I have the five big toys in my bag in
Speaker 2: Santa's bag that I'm gonna bring out four or five,
Speaker 2: and then within that I'm going to go other places
Speaker 2: and I might go too far someplace and we might
Speaker 2: not get to my last toy or something. But there's
Speaker 2: there's five that I know can save me. And then
Speaker 2: the rest is a fucking mishmash. And I'm just like
Speaker 2: and it makes it fun, It makes it fun fun.
Speaker 1: It's also lazy.
Speaker 4: I know that, Like I realized it I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was writing it out and.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is lazy because I don't want
Speaker 4: to put something together, but it.
Speaker 1: Also I don't want to look it. But it gives you'll.
Speaker 2: Have to look if you if it gives you a
Speaker 2: freedom to not look at it, you're saying.
Speaker 4: It gives you a freedom to be like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: if I don't have an order, then I'm going to
Speaker 4: go from mom to therapist if I want to. But
Speaker 4: then you'll realize like, oh my god, those actually go
Speaker 4: really want together, whereas if you had a list, you
Speaker 4: would have never put mom in therapists together.
Speaker 2: Yes, well that's why you have to constantly like this
Speaker 2: is the process I'm in right now. Is like all
Speaker 2: the jokes and this is the order we think they're
Speaker 2: going in. And Brian is like I've hired Brian is
Speaker 2: like my head writer to like help me on my
Speaker 2: special because I it's it truly is like I'm trying
Speaker 2: to write a TV show and I would never write
Speaker 2: a TV show on my own, like a whole script,
Speaker 2: And so I'm approaching my special this time of like yeah,
Speaker 2: I want everyone's input, of like we see a theme here,
Speaker 2: maybe this could go into this, and that is the
Speaker 2: hardest thing because you, yeah, I always have had this joke,
Speaker 2: into this joke, and then you'd you never realize, oh
Speaker 2: my god, if this came before this, that could pay
Speaker 2: off so much more.
Speaker 1: But then you have callbacks. My call that doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Now if I put this over there, now that's the
Speaker 2: Now I have to switch the callbacks. And it's like
Speaker 2: it's it's it's so fucked. But I will say that
Speaker 2: I'm really glad that you also operate this way. I
Speaker 2: think Mark Maron is the only other person that I've heard.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's tons more that just kind of grab
Speaker 2: bag it and don't have a list hold on.
Speaker 4: Because after realizing that I've always grab bagged it, when
Speaker 4: I decided to a special, the alarms went off and
Speaker 4: I was like, girl, you can't do this.
Speaker 1: You are not doing this for your special. You need
Speaker 1: an order.
Speaker 4: Because I will look at someone during the recording. I know,
Speaker 4: I well, I will look at someone. They will throw
Speaker 4: me off. It'll be like my dentist who actually showed up.
Speaker 4: So I'm glad I'm write and then I'm like I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go blank. So I memorized it like a script,
Speaker 4: and I realized I came up with so many.
Speaker 1: Different lines, so much as, so much more at the
Speaker 1: last minute, and now when.
Speaker 2: You fucking write it all down and look at it
Speaker 2: and you have to read and you have to memorize it,
Speaker 2: so then you're looking at the sentences again and you go, oh, wait,
Speaker 2: there's another chance for another joke here, Like this is
Speaker 2: kind of It's totally the way we work is the
Speaker 2: laziest way, and we've gotten away with it. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: when people go Nikki, you're wow, it's so amazing. You
Speaker 2: can remember everything and you don't have notes, and you
Speaker 2: don't go over notes beforehand, you don't go over notes afterwards.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not because I'm a genius or like,
Speaker 2: this is just my artistic way. I've found the path
Speaker 2: of least resistance, of most resistance. Let's be honest, if
Speaker 2: we're talking about resistance. I found the path of most
Speaker 2: resistance to actually looking at the hearts, doing the thing
Speaker 2: I fear, which is seeing my material for what it
Speaker 2: is and it might not.
Speaker 1: Be as good as I think it is, which is
Speaker 1: the fear.
Speaker 4: But also you've had other specials, so when you're done
Speaker 4: with your special and it's out there, Do you like
Speaker 4: not even look at that stuff anymore?
Speaker 1: Because it's out there, you still use it? Right, Sometimes
Speaker 1: I if you know, if I'm talking about something similar,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember really what I put in specials,
Speaker 1: but after I really said, I kind of like dump
Speaker 1: it from my mind.
Speaker 2: And so I've I literally I've had to ask Brian
Speaker 2: to go back and watch all my specials because I
Speaker 2: won't do it. And I'm like, we just have to
Speaker 2: make sure I'm not doing any of the same stuff
Speaker 2: because I talk about the same themes still of like
Speaker 2: sex and dating and.
Speaker 1: I don't want kids, and it's like the same r.
Speaker 2: Was a joke that I was doing that I did
Speaker 2: it in the last special, but it was like I
Speaker 2: had just written it before the last special and now
Speaker 2: it's like, so it's better, but I can't do it.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's there is a line
Speaker 2: like my last special, I say, like, you know, I
Speaker 2: talk to young girls, and I'm like, you're gonna age someday.
Speaker 2: I know you think you won't, and I hope you
Speaker 2: don't because I want you to die young. And that
Speaker 2: was like in my last special, and I'm really making
Speaker 2: the same point again, this time where I'm like you,
Speaker 2: like young girls, I know you think you're not gonna eight, Like,
Speaker 2: it's okay for me to reiterate something if it's important enough,
Speaker 2: and I found another way to prove it. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't have a problem repeating premises. But yeah, it's it's
Speaker 2: I find though that you know, I was crying in
Speaker 2: therapy about it yesterday because it's just such a stressful
Speaker 2: time right now and there's so much it's seeming so much,
Speaker 2: seemingly so much pressure. And I'm glad that you're done
Speaker 2: taping years and you can give me perspective on the
Speaker 2: other side, because there's me it it is going.
Speaker 4: No, there's more, keep going. I want to tell you
Speaker 4: something else going okay, yes, keep going.
Speaker 2: Sorry, well, just well crying about it, and I just
Speaker 2: was like, I keep telling myself that Trump is probably
Speaker 2: gonna win and nothing matters, and that has been helping
Speaker 2: me totally to think about you know. I'm just using
Speaker 2: that as an example of like things aren't good, you know,
Speaker 2: or like it's it's another way of saying I'm gonna
Speaker 2: die someday and this will all be forgotten. So just
Speaker 2: like ease up, on yourself, like not, you know, like
Speaker 2: I always think about people who host SNL and it's
Speaker 2: like the biggest news of Like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: can't believe that comedians hosting SNL like this is their
Speaker 2: big break Wow.
Speaker 1: And then it happens and no one even watches.
Speaker 2: It, Like it's just like life, everything seems so fucking big.
Speaker 2: Even the biggest thing I could do, will uh nefinitely
Speaker 2: be a fit in my IMDb that everyone will forget,
Speaker 2: including my family.
Speaker 3: Will it be in the deadline article when you die?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then her fifth special didn't end.
Speaker 2: My deadline article will be pushed down to the bottom
Speaker 2: and we'll be in the archives someday of that, you know,
Speaker 2: Like everything's gonna.
Speaker 3: Be okay, And in thousands and thousands of years from now,
Speaker 3: people won't even know any individual that ever existed in
Speaker 3: this line.
Speaker 2: I always remember that I will be as remembered as
Speaker 2: Obama and Abraham Lincoln. We will all be equals in
Speaker 2: the end in terms of no one on the planet Earth.
Speaker 2: This will be wiped out someday and we will all
Speaker 2: just be bones. Like Kyle Dunagan always talks about how
Speaker 2: like most of our lives as humans is this yeah, great?
Speaker 2: Like for millennia, are like right now we're like bones
Speaker 2: inside skin and like, but most of our time on
Speaker 2: this planet in this form is just like this ah
Speaker 2: in the ground and for like.
Speaker 1: No no no no, no no no no.
Speaker 2: Nine percent of your existence on this planet is just
Speaker 2: being still bones.
Speaker 1: Just think about it. Think about it.
Speaker 3: Existent.
Speaker 4: We don't have kids, so after we die, who's really
Speaker 4: going to talk about us?
Speaker 1: Our need nephews.
Speaker 2: This is my entire special. Like literally that's a line
Speaker 2: for my special. It's like I got nothing, so okay,
Speaker 2: let's talk about you were saying it gets worse.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 4: So I thought you did your special and then you
Speaker 4: were done and you're likes right, it's like the stress
Speaker 4: of editing, which you know. And I was like, now
Speaker 4: I have to do it twice because I got to
Speaker 4: do English and I got to do in Spanish, and
Speaker 4: then I have my editor in English and I editor
Speaker 4: in Spanish. The color is to the sound guy, and
Speaker 4: I started getting them confused. I was like, is Joe
Speaker 4: with this one or the other one? You know, all confused?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was like and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can never do this again. I can't do two at once.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Oh you can't do that.
Speaker 2: That I mean, that is really what an undertaking now
Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about it, because when doing one, it's
Speaker 2: like twins. It's like twins, but also carrying them both.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't even there's no comparison to it
Speaker 2: with pregnancy, because it's not like you it's two separate
Speaker 2: things that you were like giving birth to twins and
Speaker 2: then raising two babies.
Speaker 1: Separately in different languages, and then oh, yeah, you have
Speaker 1: to watch them get a nanny, either.
Speaker 4: Nanny and then you have to like for some reason,
Speaker 4: they would come in on the same day. They'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: here's the first draft, and then like ten minutes later,
Speaker 4: here's the Spanish one.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, and.
Speaker 3: Then one of those babies has to go to Mark
Speaker 3: Norman's house and the other one.
Speaker 4: I'm like, can you guys do one one week and
Speaker 4: then one the other. No, they would come in at
Speaker 4: this no, because they are not connected.
Speaker 1: They're not talking to each other.
Speaker 2: That's the that's the rub is you're the only person
Speaker 2: that's seeing that these two things are being demanded of
Speaker 2: you at.
Speaker 1: The same time. The babies. I'm a single no one
Speaker 1: fucking relates to your struggle, and yeah, no, there's no one.
Speaker 1: You have no one.
Speaker 4: And then now it's like they both they're both coming
Speaker 4: out and I can't. I thought the Spanish one would
Speaker 4: distract me from the English one or vice versa.
Speaker 1: No, I have double the stress.
Speaker 4: I keep going back and forth like a tennis ball,
Speaker 4: like oh and I'll be stressed about this one or
Speaker 4: this one or.
Speaker 1: This what's the stress now?
Speaker 2: It's just because it's edited now and you're just now
Speaker 2: waiting like for it to come out.
Speaker 1: That's it's the promo, it's the marketing exposure.
Speaker 4: Like I think it's because I've heard that they get
Speaker 4: easier over time. You just get used to Like I'm like,
Speaker 4: what if they hate it? Like what if people hate it?
Speaker 2: That's not possible, that that is not possible. And I
Speaker 2: think that's a fear I've let go of too, because
Speaker 2: and I had a little pep talk with my friend
Speaker 2: Greg Warren last night before my show, and he was
Speaker 2: just like, this didn't happen by accident, like that you
Speaker 2: got this like maybe you know Mark Norman is not
Speaker 2: going to put it like release someone who's bad on him,
Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, like he is a
Speaker 2: connoisseur of comedy, so you got to just trust that.
Speaker 2: There's just no way it's gonna be bad. You're you're
Speaker 2: you've been doing this too long to be bad. But
Speaker 2: you mean, there's just no one that does it as
Speaker 2: much and as good as you that has had that
Speaker 2: that you could not have had the career you had
Speaker 2: with all the opportunities because you or something.
Speaker 1: You know, there's very nice thing to say, there's just
Speaker 1: no way, like you think Mark's to be talented, because
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 3: Think that people are gonna hate it, then that means
Speaker 3: you're saying that Mark Norman makes bad decisions?
Speaker 1: And yeah, wow, how dare you? I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: not even thinking it about him.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that in your brain when someone gives you something,
Speaker 4: you're like, well, it's your fault.
Speaker 1: You offered it to me.
Speaker 4: Where I'm going to do a thing in English and
Speaker 4: then I'm going to do one in Spanish, you know,
Speaker 4: And then you're like, you're you're self doubt, I don't
Speaker 4: know if you have bad where you're what am I doing?
Speaker 4: Why do I find this ship that I can do too?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: That's interesting because you get if they give it to
Speaker 2: you, you go. Because I have that with like getting it,
Speaker 2: I go. I've tricked someone and the team we've assembled,
Speaker 2: like the my director that's directing my special directs. He's
Speaker 2: directed the last twelve super Bowl halftime shows. He like
Speaker 2: works with Beyonce and Rihanna and you two on like
Speaker 2: one name, Like he's best friends with these people and
Speaker 2: like only works with them, and like he's done one
Speaker 2: other comedy special years and years ago. But he's just
Speaker 2: like doing this for fun as a favor because he's
Speaker 2: friends with my boyfriend and worked with him before. And
Speaker 2: I feel so intimidated that this guy has to like
Speaker 2: fly to Seattle when he just got he got done
Speaker 2: like with Shakira and j Loo last year. He's working
Speaker 2: with Usher on this year's super Bowl and he's like
Speaker 2: talking to me about my gang Bang joke. Like it
Speaker 2: just I feel like this is like so embarrasing. I'm
Speaker 2: really struggling with like the people that have signed up
Speaker 2: for this and have been like believe in me, like
Speaker 2: I'm a fraud. I'm there. I somehow tricked them. They
Speaker 2: don't really know what's going on. They've gotten tricked into
Speaker 2: this But then there's the added thing that I have
Speaker 2: experienced before of of starting something that you go, I
Speaker 2: can do this, and no one's asking me to do this.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that I can do this, and wha the.
Speaker 1: I better fucking do it. And if I don't, what
Speaker 1: I look so bad?
Speaker 2: At least I can blaze, like you were saying, at
Speaker 2: least I can just say that was someone's bad call.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: It's not my what am I gonna turn it down?
Speaker 2: But this is something that you were like, no people need.
Speaker 1: To see this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good and it's such a risk, but it's
Speaker 2: but it's it was absolutely the right move.
Speaker 1: What was so reading the Art of War was that what.
Speaker 2: Got you to that point of going, I need to
Speaker 2: do this to tell me the moment?
Speaker 4: Well, it was actually I felt like during COVID I
Speaker 4: was getting depressed because there was no action, that I
Speaker 4: was taking, no goal. And then there was a line
Speaker 4: in the Art of War that was like not everyone.
Speaker 4: He was like, not everyone, but a lot of people
Speaker 4: are on antidepressants because they aren't going through that difficult
Speaker 4: like fit like that.
Speaker 1: Go through it, just.
Speaker 4: Go through it, the fear, the fear, and I can
Speaker 4: get I go. I just had a connection with that,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I think that's me. I mean
Speaker 4: I had I was on Zoloft like low dose, like
Speaker 4: fifty miligrams, and I did have panic attacks and I
Speaker 4: have had one.
Speaker 1: I had one since I've been off of it.
Speaker 4: But I mean as soon as I made that decision,
Speaker 4: I just felt like the depression, I mean, anxiety came
Speaker 4: in now, but I can handle the anxiety because now
Speaker 4: I had to just do the jokes, make the list,
Speaker 4: you know, get the outfit d But the.
Speaker 2: Depression, I was just sitting there like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: so what I'm reading right now. I was just reading
Speaker 2: this chapter last night he talks about in this book
Speaker 2: called Letting Go. He talks about how depression, anxiety, and
Speaker 2: fear are way better than depression because depression is hopelessness,
Speaker 2: it's complete, that it's nothing. But if you have fear,
Speaker 2: fear is the next step to courage. So if you
Speaker 2: have fear and anxiety, it is a good sign that
Speaker 2: you have something in you that you need to break
Speaker 2: through and that you can get to that next side
Speaker 2: to that side, which is courage. Courage is fear. Courage
Speaker 2: is fear with like the absence of fear. It's doing
Speaker 2: something that is going to be painful, but putting just
Speaker 2: silencing the fear. That's what courage is, that's what bravery is,
Speaker 2: and it's one step up above fear and that's when
Speaker 2: you break through to actually the good stuff that the
Speaker 2: high vibe things like depression is zero vibrations, right, fear
Speaker 2: is like a little bit more vibrations, anxiety more and
Speaker 2: then you got to a place where it's like your
Speaker 2: depression will lift. It's very interesting to think about all
Speaker 2: these things that we get diagnosed with and be like,
Speaker 2: maybe it's my approach to my insecurities and my fears
Speaker 2: and like the all the I can't do that I
Speaker 2: have or that which are really I won't because of
Speaker 2: I'm gonna look stupid, or because I just all the
Speaker 2: fears we have. And that's so good that you overcame.
Speaker 2: The problem is is when you like read that chapter
Speaker 2: or you listen to that podcast, or you hear that
Speaker 2: motivational thing and you go, I'm putting this in the
Speaker 2: action into action, you send an email like we're gonna
Speaker 2: fucking do a special and here's the idea, and then
Speaker 2: you like you wake up.
Speaker 1: The next day to press and you're like, oh fuck,
Speaker 1: You're like, what do I sign out for?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just having that perfect amount of caffeine or like
Speaker 2: eighty D med if you happen to Like there's sometimes
Speaker 2: where I've like mixed a perfect amount of Like I
Speaker 2: watched something hopeful and I have like a just amount
Speaker 2: of caffeine. I got enough rest, and I'm like I
Speaker 2: can do anything, and let's start a band.
Speaker 1: And then like I have to put a fan practice
Speaker 1: the next day, and I'm like, I am a person
Speaker 1: that just did not what am I doing?
Speaker 2: But I think that that original person is the right
Speaker 2: thing to do. And I love to hear that. It's
Speaker 2: like lifted for you and that Yeah, one panic attack
Speaker 2: when you were getting would would you say that's pretty
Speaker 2: low for you being off medicine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can anticipate them because I anticipate
Speaker 4: the fear of having a panic attack before I have
Speaker 4: the panic attack. And most of the time it's like
Speaker 4: if I feel clawstrophobic, if I'm sitting in a tiny restaurant.
Speaker 4: Sometimes happened on a plane, and now I just do breathing.
Speaker 4: I just sit there and I go don't like kind
Speaker 4: of like don't talk to me. I'm just gonna breathe, yes,
Speaker 4: you know, and that's good. And again it's like if
Speaker 4: I'm on medication and no judgments because you know, it
Speaker 4: helped me for five years, Like I wouldn't have done
Speaker 4: that because I would have been fine. So now I'm like,
Speaker 4: don't fucking rush off to on med's karmen again. Just
Speaker 4: give it a second and do the breathing and exercise,
Speaker 4: I mean exercise I kind of always did, but do
Speaker 4: it more. But the breathing, like you never think about
Speaker 4: you need to breathe, right, No, it fucking works.
Speaker 2: It's you know, works that just like box breathing or
Speaker 2: just holding Like I breathe in and I just like
Speaker 2: hold it for five seconds, like if I need to
Speaker 2: calm my heart rate, I know that breathing in for
Speaker 2: four count, holding it for five, releasing it for whatever
Speaker 2: like that kind that there's just simple tricks, but they're
Speaker 2: just so much harder for us to reach for.
Speaker 4: The damn cold showers. Oh my god, yes, just turned
Speaker 4: the shower to cold.
Speaker 1: It's so adverse to that for some reason, I mean
Speaker 1: feels so.
Speaker 4: The hardest is in the winter or if you didn't
Speaker 4: work out if your body's still hot and sweaty and
Speaker 4: you good, it feels so.
Speaker 2: Good, that's a good idea to sneak them in. Then
Speaker 2: I've been I've been going to pilates just to get
Speaker 2: in shape for my special because I wanted to wear
Speaker 2: like a kind of revealing dress thing. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of like I'm trying to use this as like I'm
Speaker 2: peeking and like I'm gonna dress like hot for the
Speaker 2: last like or at least, you know, maybe one of
Speaker 2: the last times, like as long as I got it,
Speaker 2: why not.
Speaker 1: And I've been doing pilates and that's been a lot of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like focusing on body breathing, uh, using muscles I've
Speaker 2: never used before.
Speaker 1: It's so.
Speaker 2: It's so psychological and texting, Like yesterday I went in
Speaker 2: and I was so tired and I was still bad
Speaker 2: going to a trainer and being like I hate, I
Speaker 2: don't want to do this today. But I just was
Speaker 2: I to my friends who are pilateates teachers, and I go,
Speaker 2: what do you do if your client like is just
Speaker 2: not in the fucking mood? And they were like, just
Speaker 2: be honest and say, I don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: stamina today, Like let's do other stuff. And we just
Speaker 2: did all this other stuff that was like mine stuff
Speaker 2: where I was just literally laying down and I would
Speaker 2: have to just like you know, point my foot or something,
Speaker 2: and it was just it was incredibly hard because it
Speaker 2: was physically or mentally taxing but not physically, and I
Speaker 2: just felt so much better after it because it was
Speaker 2: better than I wanted to cancel the whole thing, but
Speaker 2: it's better than doing nothing. And then I've been doing
Speaker 2: you know, some manifestation stuff that has really been working,
Speaker 2: but it's it's yeah, I I are you when your
Speaker 2: special was over to were you so excited?
Speaker 1: And did you so?
Speaker 4: God? I mean, I first of all, I got very sick.
Speaker 4: I got so sick. I think I was just holding
Speaker 4: in all this tension right after and I got super sick.
Speaker 4: And then I went to Spain and I was still sick,
Speaker 4: but I got better the week before, and then after
Speaker 4: the Spanish one, I got sick again. So I don't
Speaker 4: know what I was makes sense, But I now my
Speaker 4: anxiety is the relief, and I'm like, if I could
Speaker 4: just get used to just not being anxious, I got
Speaker 4: to let it all go. Like I read something yesterday
Speaker 4: because yesterday I was gonna have a mental breakdown.
Speaker 1: I was like, attachment is bad, and I was like, ooh,
Speaker 1: I love that. Just detach from all of our projects everything.
Speaker 4: Detached from everything, because then attachment can be like codependency
Speaker 4: or expectations or whatever. So just detached, attached, move on.
Speaker 4: So now I'm like, Okay, what's my next project. I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna move on like I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Okay instead of after.
Speaker 3: But detachment is like if you don't attach to anything,
Speaker 3: then you're like not even experiencing.
Speaker 2: Yes, after yeah, well well once, well it makes sense
Speaker 2: to detach once you really can't control anything zacturate.
Speaker 1: What's done is done.
Speaker 2: I mean you can go on podcasts and you can
Speaker 2: work towards promoting and talking about and getting the word up,
Speaker 2: but regardless like worrying about is it good? Sorry, it's
Speaker 2: in the can's like that. That's like, detached from that
Speaker 2: immediately because no amount of thinking is gonna change balgor
Speaker 2: or like the best time.
Speaker 3: To start a new project as soon as one project ends, exactly.
Speaker 1: That's a really good point that.
Speaker 3: You're like if you go out for a job interview
Speaker 3: or if you're waiting to see if something gets picked
Speaker 3: up or whatever, the best thing to do is to
Speaker 3: start a new project, and then the outcome of that
Speaker 3: thing that you have no control over is doesn't matter
Speaker 3: as much because now you're focused on this new the
Speaker 3: next thing.
Speaker 1: That's a good point.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yes, oh my god, No, I was just
Speaker 2: gonna do a cool segue and say we're going to
Speaker 2: detach from this segment and go to a'll do it
Speaker 2: back with more after that.
Speaker 1: I just did. I love we're talking about detachment or
Speaker 1: we were before.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you said, just like a breakup, like move
Speaker 2: on to the next thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a mad thing.
Speaker 2: Like have have your little if I'm quoting Taylor Swift floor,
Speaker 2: have your Matt Heally before you get to your Travis Kelcey,
Speaker 2: like have a little fun, Like, yeah, get distracted from
Speaker 2: your sadness.
Speaker 4: This is another thing that helped a lot too. And
Speaker 4: I think this was from like Mel Robbins or someone
Speaker 4: who knows. Oh yeah, but like if you're anxious about something,
Speaker 4: and because anxiety and excitement are the same energy, so
Speaker 4: if you say I'm excited when you're anxious, it actually
Speaker 4: does to the energy.
Speaker 1: It's it's weird. Like think about okay and.
Speaker 4: Just go I'm excited, I'm and then you start going
Speaker 4: I'm excited, I am excited, yeah, because that.
Speaker 1: Is what anxiety is, Like you are getting too excited.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you're you're excited, but yeah, it's like
Speaker 4: negative excitement anxiety.
Speaker 1: That's a really I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Conscious also doesn't understand like sarcasm or lies. So
Speaker 3: if you just say I'm excited, it doesn't know that
Speaker 3: you're lying, and your subconscious will take that information and
Speaker 3: act on it.
Speaker 1: I've been a fucking psycho with this manifestation stuff, like
Speaker 1: I have been hilarious, like because I've always really struggled
Speaker 1: with looking myself in the mirror and being like you're
Speaker 1: beautiful and you're hilarious and you're gonna kill it tonight.
Speaker 2: That really makes me. Just like my friends on my
Speaker 2: girl's chat have been like, just go look in the
Speaker 2: mayor right now and tell you yourself that you're beautiful,
Speaker 2: say I love you, Nikki, I love you, Nikki, And
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't. I'm not gonna do that, Like
Speaker 2: there's I know that would help. I'm never gonna do it.
Speaker 2: So my new thing and I've talked about this on
Speaker 2: the podcast already, but I went kind of bonanza with
Speaker 2: it this weekend. Is I go, like before a show
Speaker 2: right that, I'm like not in the mood to do,
Speaker 2: and I'm feeling anxious about because I have to you know,
Speaker 2: work on the order and it's not just a normal
Speaker 2: show anymore, Carmen, you know, I'm reading a set list
Speaker 2: and I like, it's just not fun to perform right now.
Speaker 1: It is once you get in the flow, but whatever, So.
Speaker 2: I'm feeling anxious and I just turned to Anya and
Speaker 2: I go, isn't it crazy that I'm so worried about
Speaker 2: this set right now? But it's gonna be like the
Speaker 2: best set of my life tonight. Isn't that so wild
Speaker 2: that like I manifested this set to be like the
Speaker 2: greatest set of my life, that everything felt easy and
Speaker 2: flowed so nicely. It's so weird, like that's my new
Speaker 2: And She's kind of like, what, like, I just can't
Speaker 2: do I spring it on people without them knowing. I go,
Speaker 2: isn't it wild that, oh, this is a one I
Speaker 2: burnt the fuck out of my throat drinking some tea
Speaker 2: on Thursday night, I like, gulp down this tea two
Speaker 2: vast in my vocal cords and like I have a
Speaker 2: lot of vocal cord trauma and like I've had surgery.
Speaker 1: It was it was like, oh no, what did I do?
Speaker 2: And I have to take the special and I was
Speaker 2: like coughing and gagging and like I couldn't sleep. I
Speaker 2: couldn't lay horizontal because I was like, my throat is
Speaker 2: so damaged, the skin.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be flaking. I'm gonna be chucking, like coughing
Speaker 1: up chunks like it was burnt.
Speaker 2: I could feel it. I've never felt this pain in
Speaker 2: my life in that way. And I was like, You're
Speaker 2: such an idiot. Why did you do this? And then
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, just let's try to manifest something
Speaker 2: because I got to sleep. I'm in Toronto, I got
Speaker 2: a ten hour flight tomorrow I have to do two shows.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have time to stay up and worry
Speaker 1: about this, so I just go.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy that I burnt my mouth or I
Speaker 2: burnt my throat so badly, and tomorrow my throat never
Speaker 2: felt more supple or like young and youthful and healed
Speaker 2: and like ooey gooey. It's so crazy at my voteds like,
Speaker 2: have never felt better after I burnt it. That's wild
Speaker 2: that this worked. That saying this right now made that
Speaker 2: tomorrow it's gonna be wild to feel that. And I
Speaker 2: I promise you guys, I woke up the next day,
Speaker 2: no no side effects from it.
Speaker 1: Did they feel the best they've ever felt.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, but they certainly were
Speaker 2: indiscernible from the best they've ever felt. Like I did
Speaker 2: an injury that was out without question. I was like
Speaker 2: gagging on water because it would hurt to even drink water.
Speaker 2: I was choking, I was coughing, I couldn't sleep. As
Speaker 2: soon as I started talking like that, I just relaxed.
Speaker 2: I was able to go to sleep, and I woke
Speaker 2: up and had no memory of burning my throat until
Speaker 2: later that day.
Speaker 1: That's so weird. This is it.
Speaker 2: Just try this shit when you can, and do it
Speaker 2: in like a comical way of like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I can't believe tomorrow that guy's.
Speaker 1: Gonna call me that.
Speaker 2: I'm like, whatever, it is, like, it's worth a try,
Speaker 2: because it's less embarrassing doing that than saying you are
Speaker 2: beautiful and your throat is fire like in the mirror
Speaker 2: gazing at yourself.
Speaker 3: You can get over the self consciousness of it by
Speaker 3: being sarcastic and baking it a joke, and because your
Speaker 3: subconscious doesn't know the difference anyway. So if you want
Speaker 3: it as a comedian, be like, oh, tomorrow is gonna
Speaker 3: be the best day of my life. I can't believe
Speaker 3: tomorrow is the best day of my life and it's
Speaker 3: happening tomorrow. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: And being incredulous about the true subconscious?
Speaker 3: Is it really? Really?
Speaker 2: It's like a dog because it's that's how I talk
Speaker 2: normally to myself. So I'm tricking my subconscious into actually
Speaker 2: thinking that's true because I do like that your subconscious
Speaker 2: is like autistic and like has.
Speaker 1: No sense of irony, no.
Speaker 2: Sense of sarcasm, takes everything out its word. I think
Speaker 2: that's very adorable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a dog. If you go to your dog
Speaker 3: and you go, do you want to treat? You want
Speaker 3: to treat? They'll get excited for a treat. But if
Speaker 3: you go do you want to treat? Well, actually, maybe
Speaker 3: that's not a good good wait.
Speaker 1: That's the opposite, that's the opposite. Final thought.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So Carmen, your specials coming out, everyone has
Speaker 2: to watch it. I mean, because your fear now is
Speaker 2: that no one's going to watch it the view Like
Speaker 2: are you fearing of like there's not going to be
Speaker 2: enough use?
Speaker 1: Yes, Like the comments are gonna be shitty.
Speaker 4: Because I I don't know, you know, who's gonna troll
Speaker 4: on YouTube or or who's gonna say like your Spanish sucks, bitch,
Speaker 4: go back.
Speaker 2: To That might happen, But first of all, I would
Speaker 2: could could you get to a place where you don't
Speaker 2: read the comments?
Speaker 1: Is that you might not?
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna yeah, I think you should not read
Speaker 2: the comments. And also I know for a fact that
Speaker 2: they're not gonna say that because the people that do
Speaker 2: troll and go like women aren't funny. Let's say that
Speaker 2: Mark Norman fans that might think that they always pick
Speaker 2: like one girl to like so that they justify themselves
Speaker 2: as not being you know, in cells that just hate women,
Speaker 2: so they and you're the gonna you should be that
Speaker 2: you should be a one girl that everyone goes clearly
Speaker 2: women are funny. But they're gonna give that to you
Speaker 2: because he's given the dumb ones who just follow whatever
Speaker 2: he says. And this is not just saying Mark Norman's fans.
Speaker 2: I love Mark Norman, so I'm a Mark Norman fan.
Speaker 2: Any kind of like these guy comic fans that are
Speaker 2: like that might hate women, they usually like one.
Speaker 1: And they're gonna it's gonna be It's gonna be you.
Speaker 2: It really will, because first of all, you are as
Speaker 2: good as any comic that they would ever you know,
Speaker 2: hold you up against it's not better.
Speaker 1: And you also.
Speaker 2: There's there's no gimmick with you where you can like
Speaker 2: throw like oh, she's just trying to do this thing,
Speaker 2: like you really are just a comics comic.
Speaker 1: You're fucking You're.
Speaker 2: Just one of the best. And so's it's without question
Speaker 2: they're gonna love it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna request sure that I'm gonna listen to that
Speaker 4: every day just because he feel so much.
Speaker 1: It really is true.
Speaker 2: It's just no, every comic knows you're great, and like
Speaker 2: there you we just all can't be wrong. And so
Speaker 2: whether the audience will get that because they'll follow our
Speaker 2: lead and like you know, the savvy ones tend to
Speaker 2: like the comics that comics like, and and yeah, but
Speaker 2: I would have those same I have those same fears
Speaker 2: whenever I do anything on a male comics platform.
Speaker 1: But do you?
Speaker 2: And I don't mean to put in fears in your head,
Speaker 2: but like I always fear those kinds of fans.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like, now that you've done so many
Speaker 4: specials though, that all those fears just get lighter and
Speaker 4: lighter or do they just stay?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: What I've realized is that no, they say each time
Speaker 2: it feels like this is do or die, it always
Speaker 2: feels like the first time, like it does, I will
Speaker 2: say that, but the aft, like the aftermath of like
Speaker 2: how it's received way less pressure than I thought it
Speaker 2: would be. And things have not always been a fucking
Speaker 2: huge big splash for me in terms of my specials.
Speaker 2: I mean they've been they've come and gone without with fanfare,
Speaker 2: without fanfare, and it's all kind of felt the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Really, the amount of times I've survived putting something out
Speaker 2: that I put so much work into and it wasn't
Speaker 2: watched a lot, or it just didn't strike a chord,
Speaker 2: it doesn't it did. I didn't take it personally, and
Speaker 2: I hope that for you because I think it surprised
Speaker 2: me that I didn't, But I think you won't too,
Speaker 2: because the First of all, everything's oversaturated, there's too much
Speaker 2: to watch, so you can have that in the back
Speaker 2: of your head of like it just didn't cut through,
Speaker 2: and like it just you know, and it's all the
Speaker 2: hard work is done, and it's like you can you
Speaker 2: can't control it, so you you can kind of let
Speaker 2: that go. So I'm I'm happy to say that. However,
Speaker 2: my special does I know that I'll be okay even
Speaker 2: if it fucking tanks, because I know it's good, because
Speaker 2: it's there's no question it's funny, because I do have that.
Speaker 2: And right now as I'm talking to you, doing comedy
Speaker 2: twenty years, you can't at the rate of doing it.
Speaker 2: If I was bad, that would be it would be impossible, remarkable,
Speaker 2: it would actually.
Speaker 1: Really very impressive.
Speaker 3: I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen. I've seen
Speaker 3: not twenty but maybe fifteen ten. I've seen people like, sure,
Speaker 3: it's still not funny at all.
Speaker 2: But twenty you got you. You're not bad at No
Speaker 2: one has been doing it twenty years. It doesn't do
Speaker 2: a good job. And if you actually care about being
Speaker 2: on the cutting edge and writing new material, if you
Speaker 2: which I have done, then there's no question.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I might not be as good as I want to be,
Speaker 2: but there's no question I'm I'm elite, I'm come.
Speaker 3: I can definitely up with I'm not going to say
Speaker 3: them on the pod.
Speaker 1: Are they people?
Speaker 2: Are they people that are trying new material? There are
Speaker 2: people who and that are actually trying to progress or
Speaker 2: are they relying on the old act?
Speaker 3: Probably all know their name. I don't know who they are,
Speaker 3: but if I point you out, you'd be like that guy,
Speaker 3: that guy hosted for this thing in twenty two thousand
Speaker 3: and nine. He's he's been.
Speaker 4: Doing the same and he's probably progression is little pond
Speaker 4: and everything's fine, or size fish in a very very
Speaker 4: big pond.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I can. I think I can name
Speaker 3: a few that are still somehow bad. But no, you're right,
Speaker 3: Nikki about are they doing the same material? A lot
Speaker 3: of them? Are them thinking of? Are doing the same
Speaker 3: material over and over again for twenty years, and I
Speaker 3: think it was bad the first time they did it,
Speaker 3: and it's still bad and they never adjusted.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I know what you're saying now that I'm
Speaker 2: racking my brain. I can think of people that have
Speaker 2: been doing twenty years and I don't like their commedy.
Speaker 2: I don't like they're doing, but I cannot deny that
Speaker 2: they do have an audience that doesn't like that does
Speaker 2: like it, and they have mastered the skin of performing,
Speaker 2: which is a skill in and of itself. So whether
Speaker 2: their jokes are bad, they do deserve like they're twenty.
Speaker 2: Like if we're talking about someone who just got a
Speaker 2: special too soon after doing it, however many years, seven years,
Speaker 2: you're gonna see like this person is out of their element.
Speaker 1: But twenty years you deserve.
Speaker 2: Whether your jokes are good or bad, you deserve to
Speaker 2: be up there because you're a good performer that you've
Speaker 2: been on stages for twenty years. There's something in that.
Speaker 2: But you know, we me and Carmen also have jokes,
Speaker 2: so there's just no question.
Speaker 4: Carmen, that's what's gonna be great exciting things though, is
Speaker 4: to just put that shit aside, like the material, I mean,
Speaker 4: catch and and just write. There's so much new stuff
Speaker 4: and stuff that I didn't even put in this special
Speaker 4: because I waited so long to do a special and
Speaker 4: I'm like, I already have so much for the next one.
Speaker 2: You know, now you're gonna go on tour off of
Speaker 2: this thing. Your numbers are gonna go up there, that's
Speaker 2: gonna be so fun.
Speaker 3: No, it's amazing that her numbers have gone up already,
Speaker 3: and that her that the tour is all selling out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Carmen, I can't believe that this has led.
Speaker 2: I can't believe you are the most one of the
Speaker 2: most watched news specials on YouTube of the year and
Speaker 2: the most critically acclaimed. I mean, I can believe it
Speaker 2: because we talked about it, but it really is it
Speaker 2: just finally, it's so nice to see that finally people
Speaker 2: are seeing what has obviously you know, the lettermans and
Speaker 2: the last comic standings have acknowledged here and there, but
Speaker 2: it's happening on a wider scale for you, and like
Speaker 2: people comedy officianos are now like know your name, it's
Speaker 2: a household name.
Speaker 4: But also that I'm the most watched American comedian in
Speaker 4: Spain is crazy, right.
Speaker 1: That is such an accomplishment, that is so cool that.
Speaker 3: There's no like, there's no way that doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, we might not know the scene. Carmen's probably
Speaker 2: more tuned in. There's probably a lot of Americans.
Speaker 1: They Oh my god, it's so cool. They love they.
Speaker 4: First of all, they the other day I did I
Speaker 4: did a ton of Spanish podcasts. I just got back
Speaker 4: from Madrid. I had to go from Madrid to Nebraska.
Speaker 4: That's why I haven't slept in and I I it
Speaker 4: was so funny. One of the podcast guys was like, Lee,
Speaker 4: Bobby Lee, you have to go like.
Speaker 1: Who oh Bobby Lee. Oh Bobby Lee.
Speaker 4: And then this other podcast they were like, you know,
Speaker 4: and I go the cellar.
Speaker 3: It's fun to do because c is you know th h.
Speaker 1: So like and I was like, oh, that's sella fella.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Bobby Lee, well, Bobby Lee is they
Speaker 1: have good taste, Mark Norman and they were like that's awesome. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it was pretty They're gonna love you even more.
Speaker 2: But Mark Norman doesn't speak Spanish, so they're gonna like,
Speaker 2: they're gonna fucking eat this up. This is so exciting.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you, Carmel. What's the name of
Speaker 2: your special?
Speaker 4: The English one is Queef Week and which Mark imaniately.
Speaker 1: Loved, because you know how he loves he loves that
Speaker 1: picture him. Yeah, that's I can't believe he hasn't named
Speaker 1: his special that yet, and.
Speaker 4: Then the Spanish one is just and Espanol because I
Speaker 4: wanted to make sure this is not my language.
Speaker 1: It's yes, okay, so we Espanol. Check it out on
Speaker 1: Mark Norman's YouTube page. That will be on the twelfth.
Speaker 2: That's Tuesday the twelfth, nine pm Eastern. Set your alarms
Speaker 2: and then if you speak Spanish on the fifteenth on
Speaker 2: feel me on YouTube.
Speaker 4: On No film in is like a Netflix, but it's
Speaker 4: only in Spain, so it's feel mean is the platform nice?
Speaker 1: Okay? Wow, congratulations girl, Thank you, get some rest. Thank
Speaker 1: you for doing this podcast. I love you. I love
Speaker 1: you so good to catch up. I can't wait till
Speaker 1: we can run into each other again. I just like
Speaker 1: complain about life. More'll do it.
Speaker 4: You're the best, all right, bye, Carmen, thank you, Thanks again, guys.
Speaker 1: Bye guys, Bine. All right, that's it. I'll see you
Speaker 1: on tour coming up.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be at Brea with Brian Frangie, and then
Speaker 2: Spokane and then Seattle for my special taping, which I
Speaker 2: hope you guys can make it to, and then December
Speaker 2: thirtieth and thirty. First, I'm going to be in Denver
Speaker 2: for those shows, so come out to those as well.
Speaker 2: That's it for us, don't Beka and Digit Just watch
Speaker 2: Carmen on December twelfth, TWEK Week on Mark Hammon's YouTube
Speaker 2: page