1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:01,760 Speaker 1: The Knickki Glaser Podcast. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: Niki Glaser, Nikki, Hello here, I am welcome to the show. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: It's the Nikki Glazer Podcast. I'm Nikki Glazer. I'm in 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Saint Louis. Brian Frangie is in Los Angeles again. You're 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: back home back after the holiday. Then are you going 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: out again for the holiday? 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: Back there? 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 3: I'm going to Chicago for Christmas? To all that makes sense? 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: The old switch, the old switch Aroo. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Someone had a tweet that like said something about Thanksgiving 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: and Christmas being so close together is fucking insane. For 13 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: how we have to see these people that close together. 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 2: I forget whose tweet it was. 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: It was someone home for a full month. I went 16 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: just back full time, and. 17 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. Why not just stay? It's Christmas 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: is here and Thanksgiving was yesterday. 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 3: Christmas Time one of the best Christmas songs of all time. 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: I really like Christmas Time. But we'll get into that 21 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: in a second. Noah is here from Arizona. Hey, Noah, Hi, Hey, 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 2: And we have a special guest today, a really good 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: friend of mine who I don't get to hang out 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: with us nearly as much as I would want to. 25 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: I feel like if we were in the same city. 26 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: We'd beginning we'd be like, I don't know, whenever I 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: would run unto you, it just is like so easy 28 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: to hang out with you. So it was an instant 29 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: yes when I heard that you wanted to come on 30 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: the pod and like talk about your new special coming up. 31 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 4: It's Carmen Lean, thank you, greetings from Astoria, greeting. 32 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: What stop on the Are you the last? The laugh 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: on me too? 34 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: I was dit Mars you can fall asleep thirty six 35 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: and dit Mars you could fall asleep on that train 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: and not worry about missing your stops. 37 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: It'll just hit it. 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: And it sucks because the stop before stops for like 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 4: ten minutes. 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Do you ever notice that? It's like, oh yeah, can 41 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: you stop at the end? Yes? 42 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: I loved that stop. I love Tavernat yeah yeah. And 43 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: there was a Starbucks that I frequented many times. There's 44 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: a CVS that's enjoyable. I loved that. I like that train. 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: By the way, the n Q is like clean. I 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: like those blue seats. It feels like it's probably my 47 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: favorite train. 48 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: It's still are Yeah, there's a it's still oh no, 49 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: that's the or that's the previous stop the staples. 50 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but. 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 4: You would die now. And there's there they just opened 52 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: up Burlington. They're putting in a target. There's an eye hog. 53 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: It looks like a lall. Now it's crazy. They're not 54 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: messing around. It was already like up and coming. 55 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: But they've just fucking committed to Like that's there's tons 56 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: of people at that end there. 57 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now a target. 58 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: I would always get scared to go to targets in 59 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: New York City because it just seems like it would 60 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: just be so picked over, so run. 61 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: Down, so chaotic. But I love a target so much. 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: And I I always say that if you get out 63 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: of a target without spending eighty dollars, you spent no 64 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: money at target. Like if it's under eighty dollars, it's 65 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: zero money spent. Yeah, but eighty is what like you 66 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: have to at least spend eighty at a time. 67 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: That's where I feel like, oh my gosh, it less 68 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: than eighty. This is I just won money. 69 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't even have to go into the 70 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: city now to go shopping. Like if you need something, 71 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 4: there's also a tech yeah too. 72 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: Oh Burlington and TJ Max. I mean and because Burlington 73 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: they're more than greatcoats. I've heard that now they they 74 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: do more. It's like TJ Max pretty much. 75 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty much for Nordstrom, it's I mean, they're all 76 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 4: pretty much the same. 77 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: They're just you feel like you're bargain hunting. You feel 78 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: like you like are kind of thrifting in a way 79 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: because it's so much different stuff and you can find 80 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: good things because some of the sale racks are really disheveled. 81 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: So there isn't an element to it that makes you 82 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: feel like you're like combing for good deals like searching 83 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: through a landfill, which you pretty much are searching through 84 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: a future landfill. But it isn't that like the kind 85 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: of the appeal of the Nordstrom rack or the TJ 86 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Max or the Burlington or the Raw Stress for less, 87 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: is that there is a thrifting element to it. 88 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh totally. And I love that you call it raw 89 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: stress for least, not just ross, Like, yeah, that's like, 90 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't go there, it's just an la. I don't know, man. 91 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: I guess someone called it rd f l ur DFL. 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: Someone was calling it the summer and I was like, oh, 93 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 2: that sounds cool. Yeah, it's those places. And then thrifting 94 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: just makes your hands feel dirty. So that's where I thrifting. 95 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: My hands feel musty at the end of it, going 96 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: through so much wrecks and then your hand's hurt. You 97 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: get like cardio from it. And then going to a 98 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 2: departments or a place that just has a couple clothes, 99 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: like if we're talking like a Nordstrom, that is not 100 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 2: like you're not digging. 101 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: You're not. 102 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: You don't feel like you've struck gold when you find 103 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: something good, Well, it's so layed out for you. 104 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: It's so cheap that it feels good to go through it. 105 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: Like I don't like go into the expensive places, Like 106 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: if I have to go to somewhere pricey, I'd rather 107 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: just do that. 108 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: Stitch fix. Do you ever do stitch fix? 109 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 2: I did it a couple times, like in twenty thirteen, 110 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: where they kind of pick out outfits for you. 111 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then if you don't like them, you just 112 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 4: shove them into a bag and send them back. 113 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: I have success with it when I did it. 114 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't know why I haven't done it again because 115 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 2: I did wear those things for a really long time. 116 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: That's so nice too, because shopping is exhausting and hell, 117 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: how often do you open your closet even after a 118 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 2: like you recently think you spend a lot of money 119 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: in clothes and you go, I have nothing to wear. 120 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: It's like it's it's yeah, it is. Shopping is hell. 121 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: And Noah, we've talked about how you're like, I don't 122 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: know how to dress like a woman my age, and 123 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: I realized, like we don't need to. I was realizing, 124 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: like the way the how old you are is how old? 125 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: And I know people have said this before. This isn't novel, 126 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: but it's really like how old you feel? Like I 127 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: talk about we were talking I think we talked about 128 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: on the podcast, or maybe it wasn't about. Some woman 129 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: had a brain injury that like a like a steel 130 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: rod went through her brain and damaged a part of 131 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: her brain that gave her short term memory, and so 132 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 2: she would restart it constantly and she instantly became an 133 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: ultra Marazon runner because she couldn't. She always thought she 134 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: had just started the marathon. So if you always think 135 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: you just start something, your body can go way longer. 136 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: So much of so much of your mental or your 137 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: physical fatigue is based on the fact that you know, 138 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: I've been running twenty miles. 139 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: I have five to go. My body's falling apart. 140 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: But if you were to have a brain that just 141 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: even with your same amount of effort you put in, 142 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: have a brain that thinks you just started running, you 143 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: will have more stamina. So I think that applies to 144 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: aging too, Like if you dress and act young and 145 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: like actually feel like you're young, you'll you'll kind of 146 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: look it like you'll possess. 147 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: I've seen some old folks dressed young and they look silly. 148 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: I think they're not really they're not owning it then, Yeah, 149 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: but it only looks weird. 150 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: It looks weird to see like a seventy year old 151 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: woman I like Forever twenty one. 152 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah it is Dolly Parton even and you were just like, 153 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: oh honey, that's not comfortable. 154 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: About like a fifty nine year old man with a 155 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: baseball cap, sandals and like a v neck who has 156 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: like children. I just feel like when I see a 157 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: guy like that, I'm like, man, you are you're in 158 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 3: the wrong decade here. 159 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some people are holding on to dress 160 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: the wardrobe that they had. Yeah, they're holding onto the 161 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: wardrobe that they had when they had the most clothes 162 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: and they're the most comfortable in it. It was like 163 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: they thought, I'm not trying to disparage them. 164 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it does look silly, but you have 165 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: to be okay with that. But I am going to 166 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: disparage any man who wears sandals at any time for 167 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,119 Speaker 3: any reason, even the beach. 168 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Never your man should never wear sandalst care how I 169 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: don't mind flip flops on a guy. 170 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: No, that's cave at the beach, but not like do 171 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: you ever go, like when you're on stage, Nikki and 172 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: you look down in the front guy they're wearing flip. 173 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: Flops and they put it. They put their feet on 174 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: stage all the fucking time. It's a control thing. Like 175 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: it is a control thing. 176 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: This guy the other day, he like had a he 177 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: said some line that was actually kind of helpful. It 178 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: was like a good tag or something, and I go, 179 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: I'll allow you to. 180 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: Keep your fucking foot on. I was like, you've. 181 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 2: Earned that, that entitled stance that you already had before 182 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: you even said that nice thing. But yeah, there there's 183 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: always it's rarely a woman putting her foot up on 184 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: the stage to got that say. 185 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: They talked wo talk. It would be like like, yeah, 186 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: women are so chatty. 187 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and to you last night, I had some chatterboxes 188 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: just trying to help or just I think they were 189 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: just jazzed about part like they were just like yes, 190 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: girl like, which is a nice thing. 191 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: But I think. 192 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they it was distracting, but they didn't know 193 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 2: they were just And then it ended up being funny 194 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: because I talked to them, but and I think insulted 195 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: one of them because they were both like. I was like, oh, 196 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: look at these young this young girl, and then they 197 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: were both kind of together and and the other one 198 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: piped up and said something like we're young, and I go, 199 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: not you. I was talking to her and she felt 200 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: so much she was older than the other girl, and 201 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 2: I was like, I wasn't looking at you. 202 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I wasn't not saying you look bad. 203 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: But the proportion of men who put their foot on 204 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: the stage to women is the same as the proportion 205 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: of men to women in the lineup. 206 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: In a line like in a in the show and. 207 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: The show Yeah, oh interesting, possibly a lot of math. 208 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: I had to think about that one for a second. 209 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: Carman as a female comic, and this sounds like I'm 210 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: starting out as a joke, but like, I'm actually commenting 211 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: on the question that we get a lot about being 212 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: female comics, are we My answer is always like yeah, exactly. 213 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: My answer is always I just I never like thought 214 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: of myself. I only recently thought of myself as like, 215 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: I'm a female comic this, and I guess recently meaning 216 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 2: the past seven years. But I always just was like, 217 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: I guess I was living under the susumption that everyone 218 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: viewed me the same that they view male comics. 219 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: Like. 220 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: I didn't even think of anything different about it until 221 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: people made it a thing, and then I was like, oh, 222 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: I guess it's the special thing. And I flipped it 223 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: into being like, oh, it's nice because there's less of us, 224 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: so you stand out more, and like there's good things 225 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: about less women doing, even though I think that's bad overall. 226 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: And also it's special because all my favorite comics are 227 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: mainly female comics, and so I'm like, oh, I'm in 228 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 2: a category of the ones I like the most. 229 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: But what do you do with that question? I mean, 230 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: I don't think about it either. 231 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's like being in New York 232 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 4: and you're just surrounded by so many comics but I 233 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 4: don't think about it until someone brings it up. 234 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: And now especially it's not even a thing. 235 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 4: There's so many female comics that really it just feels 236 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 4: like after COVID, like, yeah, there's a million more comics 237 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: and a million funnier people, and a lot of them 238 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 4: are women. 239 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: So I don't even think about it. Yeah, it's a 240 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: good point. I do you ever. 241 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: I was having like a little bit of an existential 242 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: moment this weekend with Emil Joaquin my opener this weekend. 243 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: We were like talking about, like do you ever think 244 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: about like you have to like go on stage and 245 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: like all these people are staring at you and like 246 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: you're up there and you have to like talk for 247 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: an hour and like entertain them, and how fucking we 248 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: it is. And I was like, he says something about that, 249 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 2: and I go, Emil, I never let that in, Like. 250 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: I know that beginning of that thought. I don't fu. 251 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: And this is the difference. 252 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: I think this is the difference between people who look 253 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: at comedians and go I could never do that, and comedians. 254 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's for every comedian. I don't 255 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: even I talked about Fargo last week and how I 256 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: don't think about that mass man with the hammer, like 257 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 2: I just put him out of my he goes, he 258 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: shows up in my mind and I go, I'm not 259 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: letting you in, because if I let you in, I'm 260 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 2: not sleeping tonight. 261 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,359 Speaker 1: So the same thing with thinking about. 262 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: How I'm on stage talking and everyone is just like 263 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: wrapped with attention, quiet. 264 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: Staring at me. 265 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 2: If I let that in too much, I will implow 266 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: that's insane. 267 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: Who the fuck would ever do that? No, because once 268 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: you start thinking that way, you can't get it out 269 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: of your head. 270 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 4: Like if I put a sweater on and then I'm like, 271 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: what if I sweat on stage? I'm like, forget it now, 272 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna think about sweating. 273 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the second you realize you forgot deodorant, yeah, 274 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: start being drenched in it. 275 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: It's all mental. 276 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: But I think it is interesting because I think so 277 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 2: many people watch comedians and go, wow, I could never 278 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: do that. That all those people are watching you, Like 279 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: that's what you get told by people who you know, 280 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: your friends and family, who go, I can't believe you 281 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 2: can do it, all those people staring at you, and 282 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: you go, actually, I don't know how I do it either, 283 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: because that's fucking terrible. 284 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: It's not that I'm not terrified of that. 285 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just I read something last night actually that 286 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: Oh I'm reading this book called Letting Go, and it's 287 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: he talks about a fear of public speaking, and he 288 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: realized he had a huge fear of public speaking, and 289 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 2: he realized the fear turned into I can't, like he 290 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: was really just scared of it. So then he started saying, 291 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: I can't do it. I'm just one of these people 292 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: that doesn't. I can't do it. My voice goes away, 293 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: I start shaking. I'm different than everyone else. And then 294 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: he started kind of challenging that and being like, is 295 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: it that I can't or is it that I won't 296 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: because I'm scared of all the things that could happen. 297 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: And then, which I thought was a really good advice 298 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: for anyone who's scared of public speaking, he started thinking 299 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: about how most public speakers are boring, Like his big 300 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: fear was being boring to someone and have people go like, oh, 301 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 2: this sucks, and he's like, well, and I think of 302 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: all the speeches I've listened to in my life, most 303 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 2: have been boring. And I don't hate those people. They're 304 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: still alive, living good life. Nothing happened if you're boring, 305 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: so just do it. And so then he started doing 306 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: it and not being just releasing the fear, which is 307 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: easier said than done, but he just was like, fear 308 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: is a thing that I'm choosing to focus on. If 309 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: I release it, it's not there. It's only there if 310 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: I make it in my mind. So I'm gonna let 311 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: it go and I'm gonna do it. And then he 312 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: started doing public seeking. He got obviously more adept at 313 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: it and was like it was easier, and then he 314 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: started saying one time he had that fear again of 315 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: being boring, and so right before he talked, he was like, 316 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: I'm not the best public speaker, but I can assure you. 317 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: Oh. 318 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: He was getting feedback that he was boring, like his 319 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: biggest fear, and then he survived it, right, and he 320 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I guess I'm a boring speaker, but 321 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 2: at least I can do this thing I said I 322 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: couldn't do before and I'm boring, but who cares. 323 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: He literally heard back that he was boring his biggest fear. 324 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: He survived it. 325 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 2: So then the next time he gets on stage, he 326 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: goes I've been told I'm a decent public speaker, but 327 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: I've been told I am one of the most boring 328 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: speakers that you'll ever listen to. 329 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: And everyone laughed, and he goes. 330 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: The second they all laughed, I realized I had made 331 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: a human connection with everyone in the room, and the 332 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 2: gift of laughter and being able to incite that laughter 333 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: made us all one and all connected. And I realized 334 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 2: that their laughter meant they were rooting for me. They 335 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: were on my side, which is always the advice I 336 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: give about public speaking is that no one wants to 337 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: see you do bad unless there's like an evil person 338 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: in the. 339 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: Back of the room. 340 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean I had public speaking fears where 341 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: I was and like had to give I had to 342 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: go in during recess to give my presentations because my 343 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: parents called ahead and said, Nikki cannot talk in front 344 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: of people. 345 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: Wow, and she won't Wow. Really, I'm sorry, go ahead, 346 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: go ahead, No, No, that's it, bitch. All I started, 347 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: I was standing. I started stand up, though. 348 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: Were you nervous, Like I was so nervous, and people 349 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: are like, I could never do that, I'd be so nervous. 350 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were nervous. Yeah, we had to overcome it. 351 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: It was like a desire to do it was like, 352 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: that's standing though. 353 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: The wolves. 354 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: You sign up like you sign up if like Noah, 355 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: you just don't have the desire to be heard enough 356 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: to overcome it. Yeah, is what I'm saying, Like we 357 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: all have exactly what you have, but we have this 358 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: thing of like I want I need to be heard 359 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: so bad or I want to perform so badly that 360 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to overcome this fear of whatever where you 361 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: haven't done in certain ways in your life because the 362 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: desire had been stronger than the fear. 363 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: I would imagine you really just have to do it 364 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 3: a surgeon. Like when I think of a surgeon cutting 365 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: into somebody or doing an open hard surgery, I'm like, 366 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: how the fuck do you trust yourself to do that? 367 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 3: How could you dig into someone's body and do that thing? 368 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: And then it's just like well, after you do it 369 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: like thirty times, it's just like a pile of meat. 370 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: They just have a desire to cut. Yeah. 371 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: I actually have operated on my mom's corn one time 372 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: with a razor I bought on Amazon, a scalpel I 373 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: bought on Amazon because I like am obsessed with watching 374 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: videos of people getting their like foot corns dugout like 375 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: it's just soothing to me, Carmen, it's weird. So I thought, 376 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: based on me watching all these videos, I thought I 377 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: had like an expertise, and I cut my mom's foot 378 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: just very like nicked it a little bit and it 379 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: is still not healed and it's like two and a 380 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: half years later. 381 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: Wow, guys, it was bad. I had the confidence of 382 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: a surgeon. 383 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: This is TikTok's problem. Everyone thinks they're confident enough to 384 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: do anything just watching for you. Oh YouTube, same same thig. 385 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: Did you radio tape? Did you video tape and put 386 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: it up? No? That would have been good, though. 387 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: I needed, like god, if I would have made content 388 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: out of it, all of. 389 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: Those videos on YouTube where they're doing self help or 390 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: how to and they're like, you can do it too. 391 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: All you have to do is follow these steps. You 392 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: can't do it. Do not follow the steps. You're gonna 393 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: cut your mom's foot off, go to a professional. 394 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Until then, man, I was so satisfied though. It felt 395 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: so good. I there have been because I have obsessions 396 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: with like digging someone's like war out, Like Carmen, it's weird, 397 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: but I don't think more. 398 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: Like popping something. No, no, I'm not into popping. 399 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,479 Speaker 2: I'm into like a dried out, crusty bore that I 400 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 2: just want to like dig off the callus skin and 401 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: like dig it out. It's it's my obsession. Like if 402 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: I if I could pay to go do it, I would, 403 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: but you need like a medical license. 404 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: But I swear to god. There was a fan one 405 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: time who came to the show, and I'm how excited 406 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: she gets when she talks about this. 407 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: I love this, and she she was like, I've got 408 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: She sent me pictures of her planner war like. She 409 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: was like, I will let you dig this out backstage 410 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: like I don't care, and I was like I want to. 411 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: It was almost like I felt like I was cheating, 412 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: Like someone was like being like it was like zach 413 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: Evron being like I'll let you fuck me, like I'm 414 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: here to fuck you. 415 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to so bad. 416 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 2: It's not that I don't want to, I just can't 417 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: because I will ruin everything. Mickey read It felt like 418 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: this dilemma inside me. 419 00:17:58,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: You have so many fans. 420 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 4: I bet you anything, people would line up to let 421 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: you pop. 422 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: There's there whatever I know. 423 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: But I can't because I'm gonna I'm gonna give them 424 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: an injury that will they'll be walking around with for 425 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 2: two years. Like I'm not good at this, Like I 426 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: need to go learn I need to do with a podiatrist. 427 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 3: Yes, that's how people learn to do that. 428 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wish there was like community college courses, 429 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: like I don't have to go to. 430 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: You just need a tube of meospourn and warm water 431 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 4: and super glue. 432 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: You're right, Okay, you. 433 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: Don't even really know what the credentials are of the 434 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: YouTube person you watch. That could have just been some. 435 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: Person all doctors. It's doctor foot fixer. 436 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: That's what they say. 437 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: Doctor trust in an office. 438 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: Yes, there are people that go in they talk like doctors. 439 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: They're like narcissistics like doctors. They seem sociopathic in a 440 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: certain way. These are exactly the people you should trusts 441 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: doctor's foot fixer. 442 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 3: I am authorizing you to do surgery on your mother? 443 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Was that name not taken before? 444 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: They have never get told us how to do it. 445 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: They are just talking about it because they know that 446 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: we're at home jerking off to this stuff. Like they 447 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: know they always do it instructionally, Like this is how 448 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: to do it if you're another doctor watching. But it's 449 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: really like, you know, there are sickos at home like me, 450 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: just drooling over you cutting out this old woman's sport 451 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: and her talking about her afternoon. 452 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: It's it's it's fucking sick, but I long for it. 453 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: That content. 454 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna have more with Carmen Lynch and about her 455 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 2: two comedy specials that are coming out on YouTube on 456 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: Mark Norman's YouTube page. One is coming out the fifteenth, 457 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: and then the other or sorry, the twelfth versus The 458 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: twelfth is the English version, and then there is a 459 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: Spanish version coming out the fifteenth, and those are all 460 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: on Mark Norman's YouTube page. 461 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: It's not the Spanish. He's not getting the Spanish one. 462 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: I'm just kidding Spanish. A Spanish platform called Feeling Mean, 463 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 4: Feel Mean Feel are filming filming Feeling Me. 464 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Okay, well we'll get into all that when 465 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: we get back with Carmen Lynch after this. All right, 466 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: we're back. 467 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: Carmen Lynch has two specials coming out, one in English, 468 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: one in Spanish. The English one you can check out 469 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: almost so soon on the twelfth. What's the what's the day? 470 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: Of that. That's a Tuesday. 471 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 2: Oh so Tuesday the twelfth. Check that out on Mark 472 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: Norman's YouTube page. And you should be following Mark Norman anyway, 473 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: so you'll see it once you do that. 474 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: And then where did you film it? At the cellar 475 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: at the v at the Village Underground? 476 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: Nice? 477 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: And what did you do? 478 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 3: Like? 479 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 2: Okay, because I'm about to tape a special right on 480 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: the sixteenth, so I'm in like a special prep mode. 481 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 2: Tell me, I'm gonna make this about me, even though 482 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 2: this should be about you, but I I just because 483 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: I want to. 484 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm like dying. My life is special? Right now? 485 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: Was your life a week and a half out of 486 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: taping your special? 487 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: Special? Like? 488 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: Is your life? Like every time you close your eyes 489 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: you're thinking about it? Every time you open your eyes, 490 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: there's something to work on. Oh my god, what am 491 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: I gonna wear? 492 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god? What am I gonna do? This joke? 493 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: But like, how's the order? How am I going to 494 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: remember that? All that? Was it? All that? 495 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: But it was like the day I booked the date 496 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 4: at the Village Underground, so like six months before or 497 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 4: like four monthssion, Well, think about it because like this 498 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 4: is my first one you've done a ton, so. 499 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: God, that surprises me. That's okay. 500 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: Yes, albums are similar, but yes, special obviously a lot 501 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: more pressure. It's yeah, there's a lot writing on this, 502 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 2: there's someone who's producing it, all these things. 503 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah. 504 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 4: And I wanted to do it before COVID, and then 505 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 4: COVID happened, and then I just kind of pushed it, like, 506 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: you know, I did a bunch of late nights and 507 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 4: I just was in that mentality where like, things just happened, 508 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 4: so I wasn't in the mode of like, no, you 509 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 4: got to do it yourself. 510 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: And I kept. 511 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 4: Pushing that back and pushing that back, and then I 512 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: read The War of Arts. 513 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: Did you ever read that? Oh? Boy? I was in 514 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: a story on when I read that book. I was 515 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: at that store bucks reading that book. 516 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: I think when we read that book. 517 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god, it was all about resistance. 518 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: And then I wanted to do the book out the 519 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 4: window because everything he said was resistance. 520 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: I was doing, oh, every little thing, and I was. 521 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 2: Like, I remember putting down the book because I'm like, 522 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: reading this book is me resisting work. 523 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: Like, don't you know? 524 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: Like I eventually put it down because I was like 525 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: now I feel bad even fucking reading a book because I. 526 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: Should be working right now. 527 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: Like this is just me trying to create an obstacle 528 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: from doing what I need to do because of fear again, 529 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: fear and in the guilt. 530 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 4: Like I painted a lot during COVID, and I had 531 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 4: that voice that was like, what do you Why are 532 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 4: you enjoying your life? 533 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: You should be writing at jocks and I'm like, yeah, 534 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: I just want to paint. Leave me alone, dude. 535 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 2: I mean it's That's the problem with comedy or doing 536 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: stand up comedy or any kind of job that you 537 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: don't leave at work, is that when you are not 538 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: you could be working on it any time, So there 539 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 2: is never y. It's like having kids or having a 540 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: dog that's constantly looking at you, like you just took 541 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 2: it for a walk, but it's like, but we could 542 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: go again, and you go, okay, I feel now I'm 543 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 2: guilty again, even though I think I just did this. 544 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: There's it never ending guilts. 545 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: You're also if you're not a made person, like you're 546 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 3: also just have to constantly be working just to see 547 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 3: if you get paid at all. 548 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't stop and then you go home. 549 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 4: I mean you you just leave the room or wherever 550 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 4: you are and you're like, okay, stop and then you're like, no, 551 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 4: it's still going. 552 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm still Oh my god. 553 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 2: You know, Carmen, it's interesting to me because I do 554 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: relate to you know, it's just been I guess kind 555 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: of have been floating along. I don't have to I 556 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: get I get the I've had that in my life too, 557 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, things are coming in. I was 558 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: on least coming standing, as were you tonight's show appearances. 559 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: You you have little letterman. Conan's like like, I'm working 560 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: at your working regular at the seller, Like I'm not 561 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: like really wanting for like the the next thing will 562 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: come when they email me about it. And I think 563 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: I was at that point too, at a certain point 564 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 2: where I was like, oh no, they unless you make it. 565 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 2: You gotta build it if you want them to come, 566 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: like this, or just saying totally. 567 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 4: Not coming, they're not coming, Like that was the day 568 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 4: where I was like, they're not coming. 569 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: Just they're not coming. Just do it, just do it, 570 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: you know what you have to lose. 571 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 4: And then I did the Spanish one because I was 572 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: so obsessed with the English one. I was like I 573 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 4: need something to just calm me down. Why didn't I 574 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 4: just do it in Spanish? 575 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: Tape first the. 576 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 4: Village Underground, and then three weeks later I went to 577 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 4: Spain and I shot up the Spanish one. 578 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: Wow, oh my god. 579 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: So is it the is the material the same and 580 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: just one's in a different language or is it totally different? 581 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: It's about seven I'd say it's about seventy five percent 582 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 4: the same. 583 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: Can you give me an example of one English joke 584 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 3: that you needed to like change the syntax or the 585 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: words of in Spanish so that it would be funny, 586 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: because it wouldn't have been funny otherwise. 587 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 4: I mean not so I ahead, but it would just 588 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 4: be more like I flipped the words around, or I 589 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 4: had to describe a little bit more sometimes like the subtleties, 590 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 4: the subtleties or the sarcasm, they don't translate. 591 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: And also I grew up. 592 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 4: In Spain until I was eight, so my Spanish is 593 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 4: like that's the first thing I say when I get 594 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 4: on stage. 595 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I talk like an eight. 596 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 4: Year old Spanish girl, Like, yeah, I'm eight, So my 597 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 4: my version of translated is different from eight year old's 598 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 4: vocabulary and They're like, no, we love it because I 599 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 4: used to be obsessed with like this is wrong. I 600 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 4: need to talk to a Spanish person who speaks like 601 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: an adult. 602 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: And they were like, just leave it, it's cute, Like 603 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: just do yeah, I don't know. 604 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: There's so many comedians that kind of do in English 605 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 2: only acts. They don't use words above a eight year 606 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: old great, Like you can get by with just the 607 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: words you know and be extremely funny. Like Nate's whole 608 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 2: thing is being just a dumb guy. You know, like 609 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: I'm kind of dumb even though he's a genius, and 610 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: you hear it in the material. He's not used he's 611 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: saying reading stupid, He's he's using simple words he's confused by. 612 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: Like that's a perfect example of someone who is like, 613 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: can still be genius while operating in it in a 614 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: quote unquote a little bit of a dumber vote. Not 615 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: that I don't know, he probably does use big words 616 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: better than an eight year old, but like, you can 617 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 2: still be hilarious with it. 618 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 4: Totally, and and he can get all of America that way, 619 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: because then he can get the dumb people too. 620 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it more accessible. 621 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: We could talk about Nate being clean and that's why 622 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: he's accessible, but he's you know, also appealing to He's no, 623 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: he's not dumb obviously, talk to everyone. He knows how 624 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 2: to talk dumb speaking, Yeah, yeah, and I'm a. 625 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: Dumb guy, and then he communications I'm. 626 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: I I agree. 627 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 2: I think that there's sometimes I'm like, I want to 628 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: use a big word because it just like really says 629 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: what I want to say, and it just sounds good. 630 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 2: I like big words sometimes not to be like I'm 631 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: so smart, but then if they're alienating, you can't do it. 632 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: But I also just trust an audience if they don't 633 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: know a word to be like, they're not like is 634 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: she an alien? 635 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 1: Like she said something wrong? They're just gonna go, that's 636 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: a word. I don't know. 637 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: It's really funny to me when people hear a reference 638 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: that's being made in a joke or a word being 639 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: used and they like act confused like. 640 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: Well what was that? It's like, don't you just know 641 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: you don't know what that was? 642 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: If everyone else laughed like, that's always a confusing thing 643 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: to me. I'm like, not everyone gets every reference, and 644 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: that's it's hard to make everything relatable. Sometimes it is 645 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: fun to just have a joke that only certain people 646 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 2: might might get and they can go and they laugh 647 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: like super loud, to be like I know Rick and 648 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: Morny And you're like, okay, like I'm a freaking Morny 649 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: fan or. 650 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 4: Whatever about that with me because I'm not going to 651 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: use big words in Spanish. 652 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 2: And you're, yeah, well, I'm excited to see your English 653 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: speaking uh, specially you have. You are just so funny 654 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: and so well. I mean, you're honest and like I 655 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: like that You're just realistic about what you talk from 656 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: a realistic perspective and in maybe a little bit of 657 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 2: a not even negative but kind of like it is 658 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 2: what it is kind of perspective. What is the what 659 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: are the major themes coming from this material? And is 660 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: it stuff that you had been working on since COVID? 661 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: Is it like did you find that like, well, this 662 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: is what I did. I guess my question is because 663 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm worried about this. Are you saying something with your 664 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: special when you got done with it where you like, oh, 665 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 2: I can see a through line of like this is 666 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: what I need to say at this point in my life. 667 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 4: I don't think there's a through line, but it does 668 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: all connect with the previous joke. Yes, and then I 669 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 4: because it's my first one. I it's it's almost like 670 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 4: you realize so much your learning curve is so big, 671 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 4: because like I used to not be lazy, but I 672 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: would just like I always wrote new jokes, but I 673 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 4: would go on the road and just do my hour 674 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 4: but not really have an order. Like I'd be like, 675 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 4: as long as I do those five jokes, I'm gonna 676 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 4: do whatever, the. 677 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: Help anything atween never I don't write down any literally, Carmen, 678 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: I don't write down anything. 679 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: It's not it's a nightmare. 680 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: To plan a special and I just I always call 681 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 2: it a grab bag when I'm on stage, Like, yes, 682 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: I have the five big toys in my bag in 683 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: Santa's bag that I'm gonna bring out four or five, 684 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: and then within that I'm going to go other places 685 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: and I might go too far someplace and we might 686 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: not get to my last toy or something. But there's 687 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: there's five that I know can save me. And then 688 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: the rest is a fucking mishmash. And I'm just like 689 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: and it makes it fun, It makes it fun fun. 690 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: It's also lazy. 691 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 4: I know that, Like I realized it I was like, 692 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: oh my god. 693 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: I was writing it out and. 694 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 4: I was like, this is lazy because I don't want 695 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 4: to put something together, but it. 696 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: Also I don't want to look it. But it gives you'll. 697 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: Have to look if you if it gives you a 698 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: freedom to not look at it, you're saying. 699 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: It gives you a freedom to be like, oh my god, 700 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: if I don't have an order, then I'm going to 701 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 4: go from mom to therapist if I want to. But 702 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: then you'll realize like, oh my god, those actually go 703 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: really want together, whereas if you had a list, you 704 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 4: would have never put mom in therapists together. 705 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: Yes, well that's why you have to constantly like this 706 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: is the process I'm in right now. Is like all 707 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: the jokes and this is the order we think they're 708 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 2: going in. And Brian is like I've hired Brian is 709 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: like my head writer to like help me on my 710 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: special because I it's it truly is like I'm trying 711 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: to write a TV show and I would never write 712 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: a TV show on my own, like a whole script, 713 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: And so I'm approaching my special this time of like yeah, 714 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 2: I want everyone's input, of like we see a theme here, 715 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: maybe this could go into this, and that is the 716 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: hardest thing because you, yeah, I always have had this joke, 717 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: into this joke, and then you'd you never realize, oh 718 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: my god, if this came before this, that could pay 719 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: off so much more. 720 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: But then you have callbacks. My call that doesn't work. 721 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: Now if I put this over there, now that's the 722 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: Now I have to switch the callbacks. And it's like 723 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: it's it's it's so fucked. But I will say that 724 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: I'm really glad that you also operate this way. I 725 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: think Mark Maron is the only other person that I've heard. 726 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure there's tons more that just kind of grab 727 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: bag it and don't have a list hold on. 728 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: Because after realizing that I've always grab bagged it, when 729 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: I decided to a special, the alarms went off and 730 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: I was like, girl, you can't do this. 731 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: You are not doing this for your special. You need 732 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: an order. 733 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 4: Because I will look at someone during the recording. I know, 734 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: I well, I will look at someone. They will throw 735 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 4: me off. It'll be like my dentist who actually showed up. 736 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 4: So I'm glad I'm write and then I'm like I'm 737 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: gonna go blank. So I memorized it like a script, 738 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 4: and I realized I came up with so many. 739 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: Different lines, so much as, so much more at the 740 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: last minute, and now when. 741 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: You fucking write it all down and look at it 742 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 2: and you have to read and you have to memorize it, 743 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: so then you're looking at the sentences again and you go, oh, wait, 744 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: there's another chance for another joke here, Like this is 745 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: kind of It's totally the way we work is the 746 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: laziest way, and we've gotten away with it. Yeah, but 747 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: when people go Nikki, you're wow, it's so amazing. You 748 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: can remember everything and you don't have notes, and you 749 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: don't go over notes beforehand, you don't go over notes afterwards. 750 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, it's not because I'm a genius or like, 751 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: this is just my artistic way. I've found the path 752 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 2: of least resistance, of most resistance. Let's be honest, if 753 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: we're talking about resistance. I found the path of most 754 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: resistance to actually looking at the hearts, doing the thing 755 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: I fear, which is seeing my material for what it 756 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: is and it might not. 757 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Be as good as I think it is, which is 758 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: the fear. 759 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 4: But also you've had other specials, so when you're done 760 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 4: with your special and it's out there, Do you like 761 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 4: not even look at that stuff anymore? 762 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Because it's out there, you still use it? Right, Sometimes 763 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: I if you know, if I'm talking about something similar, 764 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: and I don't remember really what I put in specials, 765 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: but after I really said, I kind of like dump 766 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: it from my mind. 767 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: And so I've I literally I've had to ask Brian 768 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: to go back and watch all my specials because I 769 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: won't do it. And I'm like, we just have to 770 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: make sure I'm not doing any of the same stuff 771 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: because I talk about the same themes still of like 772 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: sex and dating and. 773 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't want kids, and it's like the same r. 774 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: Was a joke that I was doing that I did 775 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: it in the last special, but it was like I 776 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: had just written it before the last special and now 777 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: it's like, so it's better, but I can't do it. 778 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's there is a line 779 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: like my last special, I say, like, you know, I 780 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: talk to young girls, and I'm like, you're gonna age someday. 781 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: I know you think you won't, and I hope you 782 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: don't because I want you to die young. And that 783 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: was like in my last special, and I'm really making 784 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: the same point again, this time where I'm like you, 785 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: like young girls, I know you think you're not gonna eight, Like, 786 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: it's okay for me to reiterate something if it's important enough, 787 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: and I found another way to prove it. Yeah, I 788 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: don't have a problem repeating premises. But yeah, it's it's 789 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: I find though that you know, I was crying in 790 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 2: therapy about it yesterday because it's just such a stressful 791 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 2: time right now and there's so much it's seeming so much, 792 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 2: seemingly so much pressure. And I'm glad that you're done 793 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 2: taping years and you can give me perspective on the 794 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: other side, because there's me it it is going. 795 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 4: No, there's more, keep going. I want to tell you 796 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 4: something else going okay, yes, keep going. 797 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: Sorry, well, just well crying about it, and I just 798 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 2: was like, I keep telling myself that Trump is probably 799 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: gonna win and nothing matters, and that has been helping 800 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 2: me totally to think about you know. I'm just using 801 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: that as an example of like things aren't good, you know, 802 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: or like it's it's another way of saying I'm gonna 803 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: die someday and this will all be forgotten. So just 804 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: like ease up, on yourself, like not, you know, like 805 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 2: I always think about people who host SNL and it's 806 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: like the biggest news of Like, oh my god, I 807 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: can't believe that comedians hosting SNL like this is their 808 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 2: big break Wow. 809 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 1: And then it happens and no one even watches. 810 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: It, Like it's just like life, everything seems so fucking big. 811 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 2: Even the biggest thing I could do, will uh nefinitely 812 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: be a fit in my IMDb that everyone will forget, 813 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 2: including my family. 814 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 3: Will it be in the deadline article when you die? 815 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? 816 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: And then her fifth special didn't end. 817 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 2: My deadline article will be pushed down to the bottom 818 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 2: and we'll be in the archives someday of that, you know, 819 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 2: Like everything's gonna. 820 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 3: Be okay, And in thousands and thousands of years from now, 821 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 3: people won't even know any individual that ever existed in 822 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: this line. 823 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 2: I always remember that I will be as remembered as 824 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 2: Obama and Abraham Lincoln. We will all be equals in 825 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: the end in terms of no one on the planet Earth. 826 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 2: This will be wiped out someday and we will all 827 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: just be bones. Like Kyle Dunagan always talks about how 828 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 2: like most of our lives as humans is this yeah, great? 829 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 2: Like for millennia, are like right now we're like bones 830 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: inside skin and like, but most of our time on 831 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 2: this planet in this form is just like this ah 832 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: in the ground and for like. 833 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: No no no no, no no no no. 834 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: Nine percent of your existence on this planet is just 835 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: being still bones. 836 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: Just think about it. Think about it. 837 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 3: Existent. 838 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: We don't have kids, so after we die, who's really 839 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 4: going to talk about us? 840 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: Our need nephews. 841 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 2: This is my entire special. Like literally that's a line 842 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 2: for my special. It's like I got nothing, so okay, 843 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 2: let's talk about you were saying it gets worse. 844 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: Okay. 845 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 4: So I thought you did your special and then you 846 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 4: were done and you're likes right, it's like the stress 847 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 4: of editing, which you know. And I was like, now 848 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 4: I have to do it twice because I got to 849 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 4: do English and I got to do in Spanish, and 850 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 4: then I have my editor in English and I editor 851 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 4: in Spanish. The color is to the sound guy, and 852 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: I started getting them confused. I was like, is Joe 853 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: with this one or the other one? You know, all confused? 854 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was like and I'm like, I 855 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: can never do this again. I can't do two at once. 856 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Oh you can't do that. 857 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: That I mean, that is really what an undertaking now 858 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: that I'm thinking about it, because when doing one, it's 859 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: like twins. It's like twins, but also carrying them both. 860 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't even there's no comparison to it 861 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 2: with pregnancy, because it's not like you it's two separate 862 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: things that you were like giving birth to twins and 863 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: then raising two babies. 864 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: Separately in different languages, and then oh, yeah, you have 865 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: to watch them get a nanny, either. 866 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 4: Nanny and then you have to like for some reason, 867 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 4: they would come in on the same day. They'd be like, Okay, 868 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 4: here's the first draft, and then like ten minutes later, 869 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 4: here's the Spanish one. 870 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, and. 871 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 3: Then one of those babies has to go to Mark 872 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: Norman's house and the other one. 873 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 4: I'm like, can you guys do one one week and 874 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 4: then one the other. No, they would come in at 875 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 4: this no, because they are not connected. 876 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: They're not talking to each other. 877 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 2: That's the that's the rub is you're the only person 878 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: that's seeing that these two things are being demanded of 879 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 2: you at. 880 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,479 Speaker 1: The same time. The babies. I'm a single no one 881 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: fucking relates to your struggle, and yeah, no, there's no one. 882 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: You have no one. 883 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 4: And then now it's like they both they're both coming 884 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 4: out and I can't. I thought the Spanish one would 885 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 4: distract me from the English one or vice versa. 886 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: No, I have double the stress. 887 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 4: I keep going back and forth like a tennis ball, 888 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 4: like oh and I'll be stressed about this one or 889 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 4: this one or. 890 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: This what's the stress now? 891 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 2: It's just because it's edited now and you're just now 892 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 2: waiting like for it to come out. 893 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: That's it's the promo, it's the marketing exposure. 894 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 4: Like I think it's because I've heard that they get 895 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 4: easier over time. You just get used to Like I'm like, 896 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 4: what if they hate it? Like what if people hate it? 897 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 2: That's not possible, that that is not possible. And I 898 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 2: think that's a fear I've let go of too, because 899 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 2: and I had a little pep talk with my friend 900 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: Greg Warren last night before my show, and he was 901 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 2: just like, this didn't happen by accident, like that you 902 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: got this like maybe you know Mark Norman is not 903 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 2: going to put it like release someone who's bad on him, 904 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 2: Like you know what I'm saying, like he is a 905 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: connoisseur of comedy, so you got to just trust that. 906 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 2: There's just no way it's gonna be bad. You're you're 907 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 2: you've been doing this too long to be bad. But 908 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 2: you mean, there's just no one that does it as 909 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 2: much and as good as you that has had that 910 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 2: that you could not have had the career you had 911 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: with all the opportunities because you or something. 912 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, there's very nice thing to say, there's just 913 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: no way, like you think Mark's to be talented, because 914 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: if you. 915 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 3: Think that people are gonna hate it, then that means 916 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: you're saying that Mark Norman makes bad decisions? 917 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: And yeah, wow, how dare you? I'm not saying I'm 918 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: not even thinking it about him. 919 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,240 Speaker 4: I'm saying that in your brain when someone gives you something, 920 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 4: you're like, well, it's your fault. 921 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: You offered it to me. 922 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 4: Where I'm going to do a thing in English and 923 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 4: then I'm going to do one in Spanish, you know, 924 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: And then you're like, you're you're self doubt, I don't 925 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 4: know if you have bad where you're what am I doing? 926 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 4: Why do I find this ship that I can do too? 927 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: Well? 928 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 2: That's interesting because you get if they give it to 929 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: you, you go. Because I have that with like getting it, 930 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 2: I go. I've tricked someone and the team we've assembled, 931 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,359 Speaker 2: like the my director that's directing my special directs. He's 932 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 2: directed the last twelve super Bowl halftime shows. He like 933 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 2: works with Beyonce and Rihanna and you two on like 934 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: one name, Like he's best friends with these people and 935 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 2: like only works with them, and like he's done one 936 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: other comedy special years and years ago. But he's just 937 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 2: like doing this for fun as a favor because he's 938 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 2: friends with my boyfriend and worked with him before. And 939 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: I feel so intimidated that this guy has to like 940 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: fly to Seattle when he just got he got done 941 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 2: like with Shakira and j Loo last year. He's working 942 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: with Usher on this year's super Bowl and he's like 943 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: talking to me about my gang Bang joke. Like it 944 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 2: just I feel like this is like so embarrasing. I'm 945 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 2: really struggling with like the people that have signed up 946 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: for this and have been like believe in me, like 947 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: I'm a fraud. I'm there. I somehow tricked them. They 948 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 2: don't really know what's going on. They've gotten tricked into 949 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 2: this But then there's the added thing that I have 950 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: experienced before of of starting something that you go, I 951 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 2: can do this, and no one's asking me to do this. 952 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: I'm saying that I can do this, and wha the. 953 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: I better fucking do it. And if I don't, what 954 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: I look so bad? 955 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 2: At least I can blaze, like you were saying, at 956 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 2: least I can just say that was someone's bad call. 957 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: I didn't. 958 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 2: It's not my what am I gonna turn it down? 959 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 2: But this is something that you were like, no people need. 960 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: To see this. 961 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm good and it's such a risk, but it's 962 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: but it's it was absolutely the right move. 963 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: What was so reading the Art of War was that what. 964 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: Got you to that point of going, I need to 965 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 2: do this to tell me the moment? 966 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 4: Well, it was actually I felt like during COVID I 967 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 4: was getting depressed because there was no action, that I 968 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 4: was taking, no goal. And then there was a line 969 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 4: in the Art of War that was like not everyone. 970 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 4: He was like, not everyone, but a lot of people 971 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 4: are on antidepressants because they aren't going through that difficult 972 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 4: like fit like that. 973 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: Go through it, just. 974 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 4: Go through it, the fear, the fear, and I can 975 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 4: get I go. I just had a connection with that, 976 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 4: and I was like, I think that's me. I mean 977 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 4: I had I was on Zoloft like low dose, like 978 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 4: fifty miligrams, and I did have panic attacks and I 979 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 4: have had one. 980 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: I had one since I've been off of it. 981 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 4: But I mean as soon as I made that decision, 982 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 4: I just felt like the depression, I mean, anxiety came 983 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 4: in now, but I can handle the anxiety because now 984 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 4: I had to just do the jokes, make the list, 985 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 4: you know, get the outfit d But the. 986 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: Depression, I was just sitting there like, oh, this is 987 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 2: so what I'm reading right now. I was just reading 988 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: this chapter last night he talks about in this book 989 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: called Letting Go. He talks about how depression, anxiety, and 990 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 2: fear are way better than depression because depression is hopelessness, 991 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 2: it's complete, that it's nothing. But if you have fear, 992 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 2: fear is the next step to courage. So if you 993 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: have fear and anxiety, it is a good sign that 994 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 2: you have something in you that you need to break 995 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 2: through and that you can get to that next side 996 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,720 Speaker 2: to that side, which is courage. Courage is fear. Courage 997 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 2: is fear with like the absence of fear. It's doing 998 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: something that is going to be painful, but putting just 999 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: silencing the fear. That's what courage is, that's what bravery is, 1000 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 2: and it's one step up above fear and that's when 1001 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: you break through to actually the good stuff that the 1002 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 2: high vibe things like depression is zero vibrations, right, fear 1003 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 2: is like a little bit more vibrations, anxiety more and 1004 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 2: then you got to a place where it's like your 1005 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 2: depression will lift. It's very interesting to think about all 1006 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: these things that we get diagnosed with and be like, 1007 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 2: maybe it's my approach to my insecurities and my fears 1008 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 2: and like the all the I can't do that I 1009 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 2: have or that which are really I won't because of 1010 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look stupid, or because I just all the 1011 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 2: fears we have. And that's so good that you overcame. 1012 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 2: The problem is is when you like read that chapter 1013 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 2: or you listen to that podcast, or you hear that 1014 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 2: motivational thing and you go, I'm putting this in the 1015 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: action into action, you send an email like we're gonna 1016 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 2: fucking do a special and here's the idea, and then 1017 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 2: you like you wake up. 1018 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: The next day to press and you're like, oh fuck, 1019 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: You're like, what do I sign out for? 1020 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, just having that perfect amount of caffeine or like 1021 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: eighty D med if you happen to Like there's sometimes 1022 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: where I've like mixed a perfect amount of Like I 1023 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,720 Speaker 2: watched something hopeful and I have like a just amount 1024 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: of caffeine. I got enough rest, and I'm like I 1025 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 2: can do anything, and let's start a band. 1026 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: And then like I have to put a fan practice 1027 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: the next day, and I'm like, I am a person 1028 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: that just did not what am I doing? 1029 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 2: But I think that that original person is the right 1030 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 2: thing to do. And I love to hear that. It's 1031 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 2: like lifted for you and that Yeah, one panic attack 1032 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: when you were getting would would you say that's pretty 1033 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 2: low for you being off medicine. 1034 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can anticipate them because I anticipate 1035 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 4: the fear of having a panic attack before I have 1036 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 4: the panic attack. And most of the time it's like 1037 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,360 Speaker 4: if I feel clawstrophobic, if I'm sitting in a tiny restaurant. 1038 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 4: Sometimes happened on a plane, and now I just do breathing. 1039 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 4: I just sit there and I go don't like kind 1040 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 4: of like don't talk to me. I'm just gonna breathe, yes, 1041 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 4: you know, and that's good. And again it's like if 1042 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 4: I'm on medication and no judgments because you know, it 1043 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 4: helped me for five years, Like I wouldn't have done 1044 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 4: that because I would have been fine. So now I'm like, 1045 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 4: don't fucking rush off to on med's karmen again. Just 1046 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 4: give it a second and do the breathing and exercise, 1047 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 4: I mean exercise I kind of always did, but do 1048 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 4: it more. But the breathing, like you never think about 1049 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 4: you need to breathe, right, No, it fucking works. 1050 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: It's you know, works that just like box breathing or 1051 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,279 Speaker 2: just holding Like I breathe in and I just like 1052 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 2: hold it for five seconds, like if I need to 1053 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 2: calm my heart rate, I know that breathing in for 1054 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 2: four count, holding it for five, releasing it for whatever 1055 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 2: like that kind that there's just simple tricks, but they're 1056 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 2: just so much harder for us to reach for. 1057 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 4: The damn cold showers. Oh my god, yes, just turned 1058 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 4: the shower to cold. 1059 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: It's so adverse to that for some reason, I mean 1060 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 1: feels so. 1061 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 4: The hardest is in the winter or if you didn't 1062 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: work out if your body's still hot and sweaty and 1063 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 4: you good, it feels so. 1064 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: Good, that's a good idea to sneak them in. Then 1065 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: I've been I've been going to pilates just to get 1066 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 2: in shape for my special because I wanted to wear 1067 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 2: like a kind of revealing dress thing. And it's kind 1068 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: of like I'm trying to use this as like I'm 1069 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 2: peeking and like I'm gonna dress like hot for the 1070 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 2: last like or at least, you know, maybe one of 1071 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,360 Speaker 2: the last times, like as long as I got it, 1072 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 2: why not. 1073 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: And I've been doing pilates and that's been a lot of. 1074 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, like focusing on body breathing, uh, using muscles I've 1075 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:47,959 Speaker 2: never used before. 1076 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:48,399 Speaker 1: It's so. 1077 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 2: It's so psychological and texting, Like yesterday I went in 1078 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 2: and I was so tired and I was still bad 1079 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 2: going to a trainer and being like I hate, I 1080 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: don't want to do this today. But I just was 1081 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 2: I to my friends who are pilateates teachers, and I go, 1082 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 2: what do you do if your client like is just 1083 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 2: not in the fucking mood? And they were like, just 1084 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: be honest and say, I don't have a lot of 1085 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: stamina today, Like let's do other stuff. And we just 1086 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 2: did all this other stuff that was like mine stuff 1087 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 2: where I was just literally laying down and I would 1088 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 2: have to just like you know, point my foot or something, 1089 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 2: and it was just it was incredibly hard because it 1090 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 2: was physically or mentally taxing but not physically, and I 1091 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 2: just felt so much better after it because it was 1092 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 2: better than I wanted to cancel the whole thing, but 1093 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 2: it's better than doing nothing. And then I've been doing 1094 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 2: you know, some manifestation stuff that has really been working, 1095 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: but it's it's yeah, I I are you when your 1096 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 2: special was over to were you so excited? 1097 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: And did you so? 1098 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 4: God? I mean, I first of all, I got very sick. 1099 00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 4: I got so sick. I think I was just holding 1100 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 4: in all this tension right after and I got super sick. 1101 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 4: And then I went to Spain and I was still sick, 1102 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 4: but I got better the week before, and then after 1103 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 4: the Spanish one, I got sick again. So I don't 1104 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 4: know what I was makes sense, But I now my 1105 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 4: anxiety is the relief, and I'm like, if I could 1106 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 4: just get used to just not being anxious, I got 1107 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 4: to let it all go. Like I read something yesterday 1108 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 4: because yesterday I was gonna have a mental breakdown. 1109 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 1: I was like, attachment is bad, and I was like, ooh, 1110 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: I love that. Just detach from all of our projects everything. 1111 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 4: Detached from everything, because then attachment can be like codependency 1112 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 4: or expectations or whatever. So just detached, attached, move on. 1113 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 4: So now I'm like, Okay, what's my next project. I'm 1114 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 4: just gonna move on like I'm gonna. 1115 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay instead of after. 1116 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 3: But detachment is like if you don't attach to anything, 1117 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 3: then you're like not even experiencing. 1118 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 2: Yes, after yeah, well well once, well it makes sense 1119 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,760 Speaker 2: to detach once you really can't control anything zacturate. 1120 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: What's done is done. 1121 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: I mean you can go on podcasts and you can 1122 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 2: work towards promoting and talking about and getting the word up, 1123 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 2: but regardless like worrying about is it good? Sorry, it's 1124 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 2: in the can's like that. That's like, detached from that 1125 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 2: immediately because no amount of thinking is gonna change balgor 1126 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 2: or like the best time. 1127 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 3: To start a new project as soon as one project ends, exactly. 1128 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: That's a really good point that. 1129 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 3: You're like if you go out for a job interview 1130 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 3: or if you're waiting to see if something gets picked 1131 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 3: up or whatever, the best thing to do is to 1132 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 3: start a new project, and then the outcome of that 1133 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: thing that you have no control over is doesn't matter 1134 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 3: as much because now you're focused on this new the 1135 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 3: next thing. 1136 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 1137 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Yes, oh my god, No, I was just 1138 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 2: gonna do a cool segue and say we're going to 1139 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 2: detach from this segment and go to a'll do it 1140 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 2: back with more after that. 1141 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: I just did. I love we're talking about detachment or 1142 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: we were before. 1143 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 2: And yeah, you said, just like a breakup, like move 1144 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 2: on to the next thing. 1145 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,439 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a mad thing. 1146 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: Like have have your little if I'm quoting Taylor Swift floor, 1147 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 2: have your Matt Heally before you get to your Travis Kelcey, 1148 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 2: like have a little fun, Like, yeah, get distracted from 1149 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: your sadness. 1150 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 4: This is another thing that helped a lot too. And 1151 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 4: I think this was from like Mel Robbins or someone 1152 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 4: who knows. Oh yeah, but like if you're anxious about something, 1153 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 4: and because anxiety and excitement are the same energy, so 1154 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 4: if you say I'm excited when you're anxious, it actually 1155 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 4: does to the energy. 1156 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: It's it's weird. Like think about okay and. 1157 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 4: Just go I'm excited, I'm and then you start going 1158 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 4: I'm excited, I am excited, yeah, because that. 1159 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: Is what anxiety is, Like you are getting too excited. 1160 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like you're you're excited, but yeah, it's like 1161 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 4: negative excitement anxiety. 1162 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: That's a really I love that. 1163 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Conscious also doesn't understand like sarcasm or lies. So 1164 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 3: if you just say I'm excited, it doesn't know that 1165 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 3: you're lying, and your subconscious will take that information and 1166 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 3: act on it. 1167 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: I've been a fucking psycho with this manifestation stuff, like 1168 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: I have been hilarious, like because I've always really struggled 1169 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: with looking myself in the mirror and being like you're 1170 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: beautiful and you're hilarious and you're gonna kill it tonight. 1171 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,840 Speaker 2: That really makes me. Just like my friends on my 1172 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 2: girl's chat have been like, just go look in the 1173 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 2: mayor right now and tell you yourself that you're beautiful, 1174 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 2: say I love you, Nikki, I love you, Nikki, And 1175 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't. I'm not gonna do that, Like 1176 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,879 Speaker 2: there's I know that would help. I'm never gonna do it. 1177 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: So my new thing and I've talked about this on 1178 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,920 Speaker 2: the podcast already, but I went kind of bonanza with 1179 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 2: it this weekend. Is I go, like before a show 1180 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 2: right that, I'm like not in the mood to do, 1181 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 2: and I'm feeling anxious about because I have to you know, 1182 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 2: work on the order and it's not just a normal 1183 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,399 Speaker 2: show anymore, Carmen, you know, I'm reading a set list 1184 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 2: and I like, it's just not fun to perform right now. 1185 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 1: It is once you get in the flow, but whatever, So. 1186 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 2: I'm feeling anxious and I just turned to Anya and 1187 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 2: I go, isn't it crazy that I'm so worried about 1188 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: this set right now? But it's gonna be like the 1189 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 2: best set of my life tonight. Isn't that so wild 1190 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 2: that like I manifested this set to be like the 1191 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,400 Speaker 2: greatest set of my life, that everything felt easy and 1192 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 2: flowed so nicely. It's so weird, like that's my new 1193 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 2: And She's kind of like, what, like, I just can't 1194 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: do I spring it on people without them knowing. I go, 1195 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 2: isn't it wild that, oh, this is a one I 1196 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 2: burnt the fuck out of my throat drinking some tea 1197 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 2: on Thursday night, I like, gulp down this tea two 1198 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: vast in my vocal cords and like I have a 1199 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,840 Speaker 2: lot of vocal cord trauma and like I've had surgery. 1200 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: It was it was like, oh no, what did I do? 1201 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 2: And I have to take the special and I was 1202 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 2: like coughing and gagging and like I couldn't sleep. I 1203 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 2: couldn't lay horizontal because I was like, my throat is 1204 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 2: so damaged, the skin. 1205 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: Is gonna be flaking. I'm gonna be chucking, like coughing 1206 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: up chunks like it was burnt. 1207 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 2: I could feel it. I've never felt this pain in 1208 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 2: my life in that way. And I was like, You're 1209 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 2: such an idiot. Why did you do this? And then 1210 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, just let's try to manifest something 1211 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 2: because I got to sleep. I'm in Toronto, I got 1212 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 2: a ten hour flight tomorrow I have to do two shows. 1213 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 1: Like I don't have time to stay up and worry 1214 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 1: about this, so I just go. 1215 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,799 Speaker 2: It's so crazy that I burnt my mouth or I 1216 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 2: burnt my throat so badly, and tomorrow my throat never 1217 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 2: felt more supple or like young and youthful and healed 1218 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 2: and like ooey gooey. It's so crazy at my voteds like, 1219 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 2: have never felt better after I burnt it. That's wild 1220 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 2: that this worked. That saying this right now made that 1221 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 2: tomorrow it's gonna be wild to feel that. And I 1222 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 2: I promise you guys, I woke up the next day, 1223 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 2: no no side effects from it. 1224 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: Did they feel the best they've ever felt. 1225 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, but they certainly were 1226 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,919 Speaker 2: indiscernible from the best they've ever felt. Like I did 1227 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 2: an injury that was out without question. I was like 1228 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 2: gagging on water because it would hurt to even drink water. 1229 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 2: I was choking, I was coughing, I couldn't sleep. As 1230 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 2: soon as I started talking like that, I just relaxed. 1231 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 2: I was able to go to sleep, and I woke 1232 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 2: up and had no memory of burning my throat until 1233 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:37,839 Speaker 2: later that day. 1234 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,080 Speaker 1: That's so weird. This is it. 1235 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 2: Just try this shit when you can, and do it 1236 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 2: in like a comical way of like, oh my god, 1237 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 2: I can't believe tomorrow that guy's. 1238 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 1: Gonna call me that. 1239 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, whatever, it is, like, it's worth a try, 1240 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:55,040 Speaker 2: because it's less embarrassing doing that than saying you are 1241 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,959 Speaker 2: beautiful and your throat is fire like in the mirror 1242 00:52:58,040 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 2: gazing at yourself. 1243 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 3: You can get over the self consciousness of it by 1244 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 3: being sarcastic and baking it a joke, and because your 1245 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 3: subconscious doesn't know the difference anyway. So if you want 1246 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 3: it as a comedian, be like, oh, tomorrow is gonna 1247 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,240 Speaker 3: be the best day of my life. I can't believe 1248 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 3: tomorrow is the best day of my life and it's 1249 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 3: happening tomorrow. Isn't that crazy? 1250 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,920 Speaker 2: And being incredulous about the true subconscious? 1251 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,280 Speaker 3: Is it really? Really? 1252 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 2: It's like a dog because it's that's how I talk 1253 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,360 Speaker 2: normally to myself. So I'm tricking my subconscious into actually 1254 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 2: thinking that's true because I do like that your subconscious 1255 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,840 Speaker 2: is like autistic and like has. 1256 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: No sense of irony, no. 1257 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 2: Sense of sarcasm, takes everything out its word. I think 1258 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 2: that's very adorable. 1259 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, like a dog. If you go to your dog 1260 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 3: and you go, do you want to treat? You want 1261 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 3: to treat? They'll get excited for a treat. But if 1262 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,439 Speaker 3: you go do you want to treat? Well, actually, maybe 1263 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 3: that's not a good good wait. 1264 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: That's the opposite, that's the opposite. Final thought. 1265 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,399 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So Carmen, your specials coming out, everyone has 1266 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 2: to watch it. I mean, because your fear now is 1267 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,759 Speaker 2: that no one's going to watch it the view Like 1268 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 2: are you fearing of like there's not going to be 1269 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 2: enough use? 1270 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 1: Yes, Like the comments are gonna be shitty. 1271 00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 4: Because I I don't know, you know, who's gonna troll 1272 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 4: on YouTube or or who's gonna say like your Spanish sucks, bitch, 1273 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 4: go back. 1274 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 2: To That might happen, But first of all, I would 1275 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 2: could could you get to a place where you don't 1276 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 2: read the comments? 1277 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: Is that you might not? 1278 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna yeah, I think you should not read 1279 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 2: the comments. And also I know for a fact that 1280 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 2: they're not gonna say that because the people that do 1281 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 2: troll and go like women aren't funny. Let's say that 1282 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 2: Mark Norman fans that might think that they always pick 1283 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 2: like one girl to like so that they justify themselves 1284 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 2: as not being you know, in cells that just hate women, 1285 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 2: so they and you're the gonna you should be that 1286 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 2: you should be a one girl that everyone goes clearly 1287 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: women are funny. But they're gonna give that to you 1288 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 2: because he's given the dumb ones who just follow whatever 1289 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 2: he says. And this is not just saying Mark Norman's fans. 1290 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 2: I love Mark Norman, so I'm a Mark Norman fan. 1291 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 2: Any kind of like these guy comic fans that are 1292 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 2: like that might hate women, they usually like one. 1293 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,880 Speaker 1: And they're gonna it's gonna be It's gonna be you. 1294 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 2: It really will, because first of all, you are as 1295 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 2: good as any comic that they would ever you know, 1296 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 2: hold you up against it's not better. 1297 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: And you also. 1298 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 2: There's there's no gimmick with you where you can like 1299 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,879 Speaker 2: throw like oh, she's just trying to do this thing, 1300 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 2: like you really are just a comics comic. 1301 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 1: You're fucking You're. 1302 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 2: Just one of the best. And so's it's without question 1303 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: they're gonna love it. 1304 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna request sure that I'm gonna listen to that 1305 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 4: every day just because he feel so much. 1306 00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 1: It really is true. 1307 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 2: It's just no, every comic knows you're great, and like 1308 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 2: there you we just all can't be wrong. And so 1309 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 2: whether the audience will get that because they'll follow our 1310 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: lead and like you know, the savvy ones tend to 1311 00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 2: like the comics that comics like, and and yeah, but 1312 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,800 Speaker 2: I would have those same I have those same fears 1313 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: whenever I do anything on a male comics platform. 1314 00:55:59,560 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: But do you? 1315 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 2: And I don't mean to put in fears in your head, 1316 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,520 Speaker 2: but like I always fear those kinds of fans. 1317 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 4: Do you feel like, now that you've done so many 1318 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 4: specials though, that all those fears just get lighter and 1319 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,360 Speaker 4: lighter or do they just stay? 1320 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 1: You know? 1321 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 2: What I've realized is that no, they say each time 1322 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 2: it feels like this is do or die, it always 1323 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 2: feels like the first time, like it does, I will 1324 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 2: say that, but the aft, like the aftermath of like 1325 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 2: how it's received way less pressure than I thought it 1326 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 2: would be. And things have not always been a fucking 1327 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 2: huge big splash for me in terms of my specials. 1328 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 2: I mean they've been they've come and gone without with fanfare, 1329 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 2: without fanfare, and it's all kind of felt the same. 1330 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1331 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 2: Really, the amount of times I've survived putting something out 1332 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,720 Speaker 2: that I put so much work into and it wasn't 1333 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 2: watched a lot, or it just didn't strike a chord, 1334 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't it did. I didn't take it personally, and 1335 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 2: I hope that for you because I think it surprised 1336 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,879 Speaker 2: me that I didn't, But I think you won't too, 1337 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 2: because the First of all, everything's oversaturated, there's too much 1338 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 2: to watch, so you can have that in the back 1339 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 2: of your head of like it just didn't cut through, 1340 00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,799 Speaker 2: and like it just you know, and it's all the 1341 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,759 Speaker 2: hard work is done, and it's like you can you 1342 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 2: can't control it, so you you can kind of let 1343 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 2: that go. So I'm I'm happy to say that. However, 1344 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 2: my special does I know that I'll be okay even 1345 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 2: if it fucking tanks, because I know it's good, because 1346 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 2: it's there's no question it's funny, because I do have that. 1347 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,560 Speaker 2: And right now as I'm talking to you, doing comedy 1348 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 2: twenty years, you can't at the rate of doing it. 1349 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 2: If I was bad, that would be it would be impossible, remarkable, 1350 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,320 Speaker 2: it would actually. 1351 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: Really very impressive. 1352 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 3: I've seen it happen. I've seen it happen. I've seen 1353 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,439 Speaker 3: not twenty but maybe fifteen ten. I've seen people like, sure, 1354 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 3: it's still not funny at all. 1355 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 2: But twenty you got you. You're not bad at No 1356 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 2: one has been doing it twenty years. It doesn't do 1357 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 2: a good job. And if you actually care about being 1358 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 2: on the cutting edge and writing new material, if you 1359 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 2: which I have done, then there's no question. 1360 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm good. 1361 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 2: I might not be as good as I want to be, 1362 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 2: but there's no question I'm I'm elite, I'm come. 1363 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 3: I can definitely up with I'm not going to say 1364 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 3: them on the pod. 1365 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: Are they people? 1366 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,880 Speaker 2: Are they people that are trying new material? There are 1367 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 2: people who and that are actually trying to progress or 1368 00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,919 Speaker 2: are they relying on the old act? 1369 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,400 Speaker 3: Probably all know their name. I don't know who they are, 1370 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 3: but if I point you out, you'd be like that guy, 1371 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 3: that guy hosted for this thing in twenty two thousand 1372 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 3: and nine. He's he's been. 1373 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 4: Doing the same and he's probably progression is little pond 1374 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 4: and everything's fine, or size fish in a very very 1375 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 4: big pond. 1376 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I can. I think I can name 1377 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 3: a few that are still somehow bad. But no, you're right, 1378 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 3: Nikki about are they doing the same material? A lot 1379 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 3: of them? Are them thinking of? Are doing the same 1380 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 3: material over and over again for twenty years, and I 1381 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 3: think it was bad the first time they did it, 1382 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 3: and it's still bad and they never adjusted. 1383 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 2: Yes, but I know what you're saying now that I'm 1384 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 2: racking my brain. I can think of people that have 1385 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 2: been doing twenty years and I don't like their commedy. 1386 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 2: I don't like they're doing, but I cannot deny that 1387 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 2: they do have an audience that doesn't like that does 1388 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 2: like it, and they have mastered the skin of performing, 1389 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 2: which is a skill in and of itself. So whether 1390 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 2: their jokes are bad, they do deserve like they're twenty. 1391 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 2: Like if we're talking about someone who just got a 1392 00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 2: special too soon after doing it, however many years, seven years, 1393 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 2: you're gonna see like this person is out of their element. 1394 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: But twenty years you deserve. 1395 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 2: Whether your jokes are good or bad, you deserve to 1396 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 2: be up there because you're a good performer that you've 1397 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 2: been on stages for twenty years. There's something in that. 1398 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 2: But you know, we me and Carmen also have jokes, 1399 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: so there's just no question. 1400 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 4: Carmen, that's what's gonna be great exciting things though, is 1401 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 4: to just put that shit aside, like the material, I mean, 1402 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 4: catch and and just write. There's so much new stuff 1403 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 4: and stuff that I didn't even put in this special 1404 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 4: because I waited so long to do a special and 1405 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, I already have so much for the next one. 1406 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 2: You know, now you're gonna go on tour off of 1407 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 2: this thing. Your numbers are gonna go up there, that's 1408 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 2: gonna be so fun. 1409 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 3: No, it's amazing that her numbers have gone up already, 1410 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 3: and that her that the tour is all selling out. 1411 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Carmen, I can't believe that this has led. 1412 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 2: I can't believe you are the most one of the 1413 01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 2: most watched news specials on YouTube of the year and 1414 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 2: the most critically acclaimed. I mean, I can believe it 1415 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 2: because we talked about it, but it really is it 1416 01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 2: just finally, it's so nice to see that finally people 1417 01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,440 Speaker 2: are seeing what has obviously you know, the lettermans and 1418 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 2: the last comic standings have acknowledged here and there, but 1419 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 2: it's happening on a wider scale for you, and like 1420 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 2: people comedy officianos are now like know your name, it's 1421 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: a household name. 1422 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 4: But also that I'm the most watched American comedian in 1423 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 4: Spain is crazy, right. 1424 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: That is such an accomplishment, that is so cool that. 1425 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,960 Speaker 3: There's no like, there's no way that doesn't happen. 1426 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we might not know the scene. Carmen's probably 1427 01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 2: more tuned in. There's probably a lot of Americans. 1428 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 1: They Oh my god, it's so cool. They love they. 1429 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 4: First of all, they the other day I did I 1430 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 4: did a ton of Spanish podcasts. I just got back 1431 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 4: from Madrid. I had to go from Madrid to Nebraska. 1432 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 4: That's why I haven't slept in and I I it 1433 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 4: was so funny. One of the podcast guys was like, Lee, 1434 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 4: Bobby Lee, you have to go like. 1435 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Who oh Bobby Lee. Oh Bobby Lee. 1436 01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 4: And then this other podcast they were like, you know, 1437 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,720 Speaker 4: and I go the cellar. 1438 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 3: It's fun to do because c is you know th h. 1439 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 1: So like and I was like, oh, that's sella fella. 1440 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Bobby Lee, well, Bobby Lee is they 1441 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: have good taste, Mark Norman and they were like that's awesome. Yeah, okay, 1442 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: it was pretty They're gonna love you even more. 1443 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,880 Speaker 2: But Mark Norman doesn't speak Spanish, so they're gonna like, 1444 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,320 Speaker 2: they're gonna fucking eat this up. This is so exciting. 1445 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,040 Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you, Carmel. What's the name of 1446 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 2: your special? 1447 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 4: The English one is Queef Week and which Mark imaniately. 1448 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: Loved, because you know how he loves he loves that 1449 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,439 Speaker 1: picture him. Yeah, that's I can't believe he hasn't named 1450 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 1: his special that yet, and. 1451 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 4: Then the Spanish one is just and Espanol because I 1452 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 4: wanted to make sure this is not my language. 1453 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 1: It's yes, okay, so we Espanol. Check it out on 1454 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,560 Speaker 1: Mark Norman's YouTube page. That will be on the twelfth. 1455 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 2: That's Tuesday the twelfth, nine pm Eastern. Set your alarms 1456 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 2: and then if you speak Spanish on the fifteenth on 1457 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 2: feel me on YouTube. 1458 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,760 Speaker 4: On No film in is like a Netflix, but it's 1459 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 4: only in Spain, so it's feel mean is the platform nice? 1460 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: Okay? Wow, congratulations girl, Thank you, get some rest. Thank 1461 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,240 Speaker 1: you for doing this podcast. I love you. I love 1462 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 1: you so good to catch up. I can't wait till 1463 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,440 Speaker 1: we can run into each other again. I just like 1464 01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: complain about life. More'll do it. 1465 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:47,080 Speaker 4: You're the best, all right, bye, Carmen, thank you, Thanks again, guys. 1466 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Bye guys, Bine. All right, that's it. I'll see you 1467 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: on tour coming up. 1468 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be at Brea with Brian Frangie, and then 1469 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 2: Spokane and then Seattle for my special taping, which I 1470 01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 2: hope you guys can make it to, and then December 1471 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,040 Speaker 2: thirtieth and thirty. First, I'm going to be in Denver 1472 01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,959 Speaker 2: for those shows, so come out to those as well. 1473 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 2: That's it for us, don't Beka and Digit Just watch 1474 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,560 Speaker 2: Carmen on December twelfth, TWEK Week on Mark Hammon's YouTube 1475 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 2: page