Speaker 1: So let's get it started. It is time for lift service.
Speaker 1: I'm Angela E. I'm stepaning in Santiago. I'm Luria and
Speaker 1: Joe Joe. Care what's up Joe Joe? You first of all,
Speaker 1: you look amazing, So I don't know if you know
Speaker 1: how to do your own hair and make up into everything?
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I've had to learn over the years
Speaker 1: how to beat beat myself together real quick. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I need to learn that at some point because this
Speaker 1: is said right, I'm a matigrade. I just put on
Speaker 1: an album, so I'm over here trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: have that glow up. I know that's right. Well, the
Speaker 1: album is fire. Good to know, thank you. So there's
Speaker 1: some fun things on here that we can talk about now.
Speaker 1: I saw that you said that you have stained from
Speaker 1: sex for a period of time, a period of time
Speaker 1: just to kind of focus on your female relationships. And
Speaker 1: we saw you at our Lennox and to Nashi and
Speaker 1: the video for Man. So how did it upstanding from
Speaker 1: sex change your mindset? Well, I realized that I had
Speaker 1: never really done that, um since I started like since
Speaker 1: I started dating. You know, I had been in relationship
Speaker 1: since I was fourteen, not in the same one, but
Speaker 1: like two years here, one year here, three years here,
Speaker 1: and I had always went from one to the next
Speaker 1: and never really given myself a moment to be like, uh,
Speaker 1: to not be stimulated or to not even have the
Speaker 1: comfort of companionship like that. So it wasn't just about sex.
Speaker 1: It was about companionship and self reliance and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But um, I also found myself I'm really good at
Speaker 1: recycling like relationships, meaning so like if something, if something,
Speaker 1: if we're sexually compatible and we're both single, I'll be like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up, you know, And I just didn't want to
Speaker 1: do that again. So, um, it was just about challenging
Speaker 1: myself and growing up a little bit. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: twenty nine, and I didn't want to bring that same
Speaker 1: energy into like the next decade when I step into it.
Speaker 1: So I feel like I'm guilty of a similar thing.
Speaker 1: But like, do you feel like it's because of the
Speaker 1: different situations you learned even with your relationships and business
Speaker 1: and how like maybe you kind of put your trust
Speaker 1: in those you know, situations and then next thing you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of let you down and disappointages. Absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think when you find somebody that you can trust
Speaker 1: in your compatible way. That's hard to like, it's hard
Speaker 1: to open yourself up to new people. So I think
Speaker 1: that that's why I have been a backslider and you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because I don't open myself
Speaker 1: up to to new people very very uh, very easily,
Speaker 1: and it takes time and it's like an investment almost.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I is that what you were talking about? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: not sous Are you attached to that? Really is the vibe,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Yeah? I don't. It's it's hard for me.
Speaker 1: Like I'm nice to everybody, I'm cool for everybody, and
Speaker 1: and um, when guys meet me, they're like, oh man,
Speaker 1: that's that's a great personality. But and really like it's
Speaker 1: hard to get close to me because I'm so quick
Speaker 1: to cut people off, like the first especially when she's
Speaker 1: not her period. I should tell you, step Well, let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Did you have a lot of
Speaker 1: female friends or was this something that you also felt
Speaker 1: like at the same time, you have to focus on
Speaker 1: being closer with women. No, Honestly, I've been really fortunate
Speaker 1: to have amazing female friendships. Um, I've lived in l
Speaker 1: a for ten years and and a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like l A is so fake. But I gotta say,
Speaker 1: it's like we kind of attract the energy that you
Speaker 1: put out. So if you're having a fake experience, maybe
Speaker 1: look look into that. I don't know, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I mean, so I have amazing friendships. Actually,
Speaker 1: my my two best friends that I grew up with
Speaker 1: in matt Massachusetts moved out to l A. And one
Speaker 1: lives up the street. She just had a baby, and um,
Speaker 1: we yeah, like she's been doing my hair and makeup
Speaker 1: since we were fifteen. And then my other girl, meany
Speaker 1: who we met on the playground when we were eight
Speaker 1: years old. Um, you know she's she's a flight attendant.
Speaker 1: She's in New York right now. But I've had long standing,
Speaker 1: great female friendships and also new ones like to Nach
Speaker 1: and R. Lennox, like girls who are just carving their
Speaker 1: own path, doing their own thing. And but to be honest,
Speaker 1: most of my friends outside of music, whether they're in
Speaker 1: fashion or um you know, their lawyers or their makeup art,
Speaker 1: you know whatever. So how about Tearless with I read that, Um,
Speaker 1: when you were going through your battle, she kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, said, oh, I feel for you. And then
Speaker 1: you know, now she's turning around and she's going through
Speaker 1: a similar situation. Are you still in touch with her
Speaker 1: or how does that? Well? I'm not I'm not still
Speaker 1: in touch with her. We we had a cool we
Speaker 1: had a cool moment where like, you know, she was
Speaker 1: she's a really talented young woman obviously, and I like,
Speaker 1: I really respect what she's done. But um, yeah, And
Speaker 1: she told me that she was sympathizing with what I
Speaker 1: was going through when I was going through it, and
Speaker 1: I don't know say other than she said she was
Speaker 1: sympath as with it. Right now, let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: during this time, right when you were abstinent, were you
Speaker 1: masturbating a lot? Yes, girl, absolutely, And I also wasn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't perfectly abstinent, Like let me be okay, let
Speaker 1: let me be, let me be clear. Yeah I was
Speaker 1: like once in a while. Yeah, No, honestly thought, like
Speaker 1: to be explicit, I didn't want to be penetrated. I
Speaker 1: did not want to receive any any because have you
Speaker 1: heard this saying you bond with the wand I didn't
Speaker 1: want to be bonded with no one. But that's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna use that. Yeah. The older woman said that to me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no, no, no, I can't take
Speaker 1: in anything other than I want all my creativity on
Speaker 1: my sexuality. But that doesn't mean I didn't have a
Speaker 1: hot make out. You know what I'm saying every once
Speaker 1: in a while, a little oral, little oral girl. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: let me tell you. I went. I went with about
Speaker 1: sex like two months, and it made me um not
Speaker 1: want to master me. I didn't want a master. I
Speaker 1: don't even want to come. But I only went two months,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie, I thought while I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, all right, no, who am I
Speaker 1: gonna call? All right, I gotta go dee mm hmm
Speaker 1: some kind of guys. Am I into guys who are mad? Funny?
Speaker 1: Who are caring? Who are uh good? You didn't mention
Speaker 1: dick at all? Like okay, okay, okay, I'm damn okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm amongst my girls here, I guess okay. Sex
Speaker 1: is very important to me at this point in my life.
Speaker 1: I don't have bad sex. I'm not staying with you.
Speaker 1: I'm not staying with you if we're not sexually compatible.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be like about it, but it's okay.
Speaker 1: Be you. You know what I'm saying. Listen, So does
Speaker 1: size matter? Yeah? Your first yes, it does. Your first
Speaker 1: inst thing was yeah, and then you try to clean
Speaker 1: it up. I mean yeah, but do you get like
Speaker 1: sometimes business like saying, say, like the first time, you're like, uh,
Speaker 1: he's kind of a good size, but it wasn't that good.
Speaker 1: Would you second chanced? Okay? The truth things, I've never
Speaker 1: had a one night stand because I've given that person
Speaker 1: the second chance. It would have been a one night
Speaker 1: stand because it was whack. It wasn't good for me.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he thought. He probably feat it
Speaker 1: wasn't good either. But like a couple of years later,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, he had been trying. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh it, let's just let's see if it's no.
Speaker 1: And it was still whack. You're sweetheart for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I have lost your heart I had. I
Speaker 1: was optimistic. I was like, maybe he had an off night,
Speaker 1: maybe he was too high. I don't know. You know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I was reading this article in Men's House
Speaker 1: and it was that when guys are in a great
Speaker 1: relationship having great sex, they're more likely to cheat when
Speaker 1: the sex is great. Wow. And I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but it was this article about it, and they were
Speaker 1: saying that when you are more comfortable and having sex
Speaker 1: and having great sex, and then when you're having a
Speaker 1: dry spell, guys are less likely to cheat. I don't
Speaker 1: know that thing. And do you think it's true for
Speaker 1: women as well? Because to be transparent, I have cheated
Speaker 1: in a relationship where I was having great sex. It
Speaker 1: wasn't about the relationship being bad. It wasn't about the
Speaker 1: sex being bad. It was I felt hitty about myself,
Speaker 1: but I was having great sex. So maybe it's not
Speaker 1: just exclusive to men. Maybe we're all just trashed. And
Speaker 1: that's what the article was saying too. It's not about
Speaker 1: your relationship not being good. It's more about a lack
Speaker 1: of something in yourself exactly. It's never about the It's
Speaker 1: like it's how you feel about yourself always now. And
Speaker 1: I was gonna say that guy you cheated on, right,
Speaker 1: was this the guy from the song reckless from back
Speaker 1: then or was it somebody else? Like? No, that was
Speaker 1: a different guy, you know, the guy that I wrote
Speaker 1: that song Reckless about on my last album. Um that
Speaker 1: was like almost like a high school sweetheart type thing,
Speaker 1: and that was like, you know, he lost his virginity
Speaker 1: to me. I had only been with one another boyfriend
Speaker 1: for him. It's not like I was the seasons, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you broke no, But yeah, it just maybe
Speaker 1: you weren't. He was a really sweet, like southern, very
Speaker 1: Christian guy, and we're just we weren't going to be
Speaker 1: compatible long term. But but this person that I was
Speaker 1: talking about, um with this nah, it's it's a different person.
Speaker 1: And I really, I really fucked it up and I'll
Speaker 1: never be the same After that, I was like, I
Speaker 1: can't cope in the same way as I can't just
Speaker 1: get this external validation and distract myself with uh, you know,
Speaker 1: with the tension uh like I have in the past.
Speaker 1: That's just I don't want to I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that anymore. Did he break up with you or
Speaker 1: did he still want to be with you? After that?
Speaker 1: I told him what I did a few months later,
Speaker 1: and we we tried to make it work and it didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, it couldn't. Why did you tell him because
Speaker 1: you didn't get caught? Obviously. I told him because I
Speaker 1: thought that we could very easily end up getting married
Speaker 1: and having like really having a life together. And I
Speaker 1: couldn't live with that. I couldn't. I could not live
Speaker 1: with that. I just kept looking over at him and
Speaker 1: being like, I love you, You're such a good man.
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm gonna tell you someday, and I can't
Speaker 1: have it be too late, man. You know. They say
Speaker 1: it's selfish and to tell us about I know, and
Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. Even my therapist was like, are
Speaker 1: you gonna do it again? I was like no. She's
Speaker 1: like like, yeah, it's something I couldn't. I I couldn't.
Speaker 1: That's how I am. But Angela always called me a
Speaker 1: bad person to myself. She's what do you mean? She says,
Speaker 1: I'm being bad to myself because I'll tell I'll be like, listen,
Speaker 1: I can't hold it in anymore. I felt terrible. I
Speaker 1: cheated or I did whatever, I went to lunch or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'll say whatever I didn't. She's I went to lunch.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, but I've got in the trouble for that, Angela.
Speaker 1: I agree that some information is distracting and not necessary,
Speaker 1: but but you you can use your discernment and and
Speaker 1: know what you you know. I guess you went to
Speaker 1: lunch with somebody, and you know if you thought about
Speaker 1: it and it was no big deal, like and you
Speaker 1: know he's gonna be mad for no reason, and you
Speaker 1: know you didn't do anything, and I lied. I just
Speaker 1: sawed her ball, I know exactly. So just when you
Speaker 1: were coming out, did you have like older guys I
Speaker 1: was here and you especially like in the industry, because
Speaker 1: it was yes, yeah, right, honestly, yes, is because you
Speaker 1: still see these some of these guys I'm here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: honestly now that I'm a grown woman, now, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that is fucking nasty. You are gross and you I
Speaker 1: wonder what you were doing with other I wonder if
Speaker 1: like there were other underage girls that you know you
Speaker 1: were I mean, yeah, thankfully. I never I was never
Speaker 1: taking advantage of nobody ever, like did anything wild. But
Speaker 1: my poor mother, like she was really trying to make
Speaker 1: sure that that I wasn't taken advantage of. But I
Speaker 1: would like want to like talk to these older boys
Speaker 1: and stuff, and she was like my fast through in
Speaker 1: the Hudson River. We were living in New Jersey at
Speaker 1: the time. She was like, nope, not on my watch,
Speaker 1: good mom. Yeah, yeah, Now I gotta ask you this
Speaker 1: song comeback right? Is that about what makes you come
Speaker 1: so fast all the time? Yeah? And what and what
Speaker 1: is fast? Oh? What is fast? Um? See it? I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly take me, but okay, So this was
Speaker 1: actually about me fantasizing about how how intense it would
Speaker 1: be to get back with that person that I was
Speaker 1: telling you about. Love him? I do, Yeah, he says,
Speaker 1: I can't with y'all. You do because you said you
Speaker 1: backbedal a lot, So I know you do. Oh I
Speaker 1: hate you. No, I'm just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: Figure it out. He's like, girl, what is the Sagittarius energy?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, they know I'm listening to you.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they hear the story from me all the time.
Speaker 1: It is hard to break up with somebody who makes
Speaker 1: you come really fast, though, because that's not an easy
Speaker 1: thing to find. When you bond with the wand and
Speaker 1: when you have that, you know, and when it's more
Speaker 1: than sex, it's it's it's it's crazy. But especially when
Speaker 1: you have that pent up energy and you've been you know,
Speaker 1: haven't seen somebody in a long time, there is nothing
Speaker 1: like that. I love that dramatic comeback to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, Like I love when you've been thinking about
Speaker 1: having sex with the person for a long time and
Speaker 1: then you're like, oh ship, mom me unleash the cracking
Speaker 1: on your ass. You guys just happened to me like
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, bro, and I bet it was as
Speaker 1: good as fun. It was fabulous. But I feel like
Speaker 1: you're a squirter. I am not, but I do like
Speaker 1: I do. I'm into it. I like watching it, I
Speaker 1: like seeing it. I like the idea of it. But naha,
Speaker 1: all of this made me feel like, you know, you
Speaker 1: do a big explosion, So I was just curious as well.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't believe it. You know, I
Speaker 1: really really love when you talk nasty on your songs.
Speaker 1: Those are my favorite songs from you, and especially on
Speaker 1: this new project, is when you're getting freaky. I like
Speaker 1: that from you. I like that side Okay, is that
Speaker 1: what it is? I thought? I'm sorry, we all wanted
Speaker 1: the same, but Jojo, you've been so you've been a
Speaker 1: side piece before, and I judged that from this one
Speaker 1: of your songs. UM so bad, right, yo? So actually
Speaker 1: so bad? Is that me and this guy we're both
Speaker 1: lying to each other and knowing that we were lying
Speaker 1: to each other. We were both in a relationship, and
Speaker 1: so if you want to call me, I would never
Speaker 1: actually call myself a side piece. I've never knowingly been
Speaker 1: a side piece. But I but he was lying to you,
Speaker 1: but you knew it and you were lying to him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we both were like, no, we're we're on
Speaker 1: breaks from our people, but we we premeditatively wanted to
Speaker 1: get involved in some fucking serious Have you ever confronted
Speaker 1: a woman like okay, um, you're mess up with my
Speaker 1: man or you're calling my man. Um. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: remember because I I'm really good at compartmentalizing and like
Speaker 1: not like anything I did before the age of twenty three,
Speaker 1: any relationships I was in, it was like they didn't
Speaker 1: even happen. I remember, Yeah, so I shouldn't have even
Speaker 1: been been able to be let out the house. Um.
Speaker 1: But um, let me think I think I know actually,
Speaker 1: and let me tell you why. Because my I was
Speaker 1: dating this guy and he cheated and I cut like
Speaker 1: the rug was pulled out from under me, and I
Speaker 1: was just like, I never thought that you would do
Speaker 1: this to me. And I remember I had met this bitch, right,
Speaker 1: I had met this girl that he cheated on me with,
Speaker 1: and I remember her being like, I love you like
Speaker 1: a group your music, like like I had a poster
Speaker 1: in my locker, blah blah blah. I'm like I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to confront this bitch. No, she's not going
Speaker 1: to get a call from me, nothing like that, because yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was just like, no, she's a fan nub.
Speaker 1: I don't think so she's not gonna she'll be like,
Speaker 1: get you call me. That's a great story. So I
Speaker 1: didn't tell when I catch when I catch my man
Speaker 1: with another girl, I'm not gonna give her the satisfaction
Speaker 1: of knowing she got me that I'm gonna write them,
Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm and it's never about the woman either.
Speaker 1: It's like that the issues between me and my man,
Speaker 1: I'm really not upset. I mean, she's gonna do what
Speaker 1: she's gonna do, but he's his commitments to me right now.
Speaker 1: That's definitely it is happening to you because you guys
Speaker 1: know my situation I've been with. I thought for a
Speaker 1: long time, what am I gonna do? And I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I've caught this guy who I've been in
Speaker 1: love with for a few years now, and I've called
Speaker 1: one a lot of different women over the years, and
Speaker 1: I've never confronted one of them. I'm not not even white.
Speaker 1: He heard it. I'm broken up with him a lot
Speaker 1: of times. We'll be on and off or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: but I end up forgiving for him anyway. And but regardless,
Speaker 1: the only anyway back to the subject, the reason why,
Speaker 1: it's because I'm not gonna give another woman the satisfaction
Speaker 1: of feeling like she got under my skin, like right,
Speaker 1: But when makes you take them back? Though? Like, how
Speaker 1: do you get over that? Cheating? Said? Is that after
Speaker 1: you get over it? Though? What do you get over it?
Speaker 1: Are you able to? Like I never get over it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just stay in fight the whole time. I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: I don't mention it either. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: bring up no women to him at all. Ever, it's
Speaker 1: just like, okay, I'm back at the moment, I'll argue
Speaker 1: about it, I'll break up with him, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and between time in the meantime, I'm suffering. I miss him,
Speaker 1: messing with nobody else, Like I'm thinking, what you mean that? Finally?
Speaker 1: Either he gives in or I give in, And look,
Speaker 1: I mean, stuff already already knows this. Every everybody's growing obviously,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna work until it doesn't work for you
Speaker 1: anymore and then and then that's it. But it's gonna
Speaker 1: do what feel good until it feels not good anymore.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's really all all.
Speaker 1: That's the advice I would give my girlfriends, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: you deserve more, of course, but if something, if you're
Speaker 1: getting something from this, then get what you get from
Speaker 1: it and then look for something else. You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you think about it at the worst time to like
Speaker 1: you'll be sucking his dick like dick, Angela. You know
Speaker 1: it's awful. That's because like you'll be having sex and
Speaker 1: you'll be thinking, oh my, don't have something if I
Speaker 1: think a bottle. Hell no, Angela, you need to be
Speaker 1: more in the moment than that. I want to be
Speaker 1: so focused cut down that moment my head. You'll be
Speaker 1: so mad and you'd be like I get with you.
Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from, Angela, because it's like
Speaker 1: little things could trigger memories and you're like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: someone else was just doing this. Yeah, your dick off,
Speaker 1: no idea you'd be liked. I taste listen you on here,
Speaker 1: that's not come on you all and you're just might
Speaker 1: and you're now you know you take it too. Five.
Speaker 1: Have you ever smelled somebody's underwear or smell their dick
Speaker 1: when they come home and been like, what have you
Speaker 1: been up to? You're crazy? You know is crazy. But
Speaker 1: I have smelled like, um my nigga, like ya, you
Speaker 1: smell a little bit different, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like did you take a shower like you can? You
Speaker 1: can smell when someone takes a shower and ain't soak
Speaker 1: y'all use at home. It's a different so hotel. So damn,
Speaker 1: it's scandalous out here. Yeah. You know. One time, one
Speaker 1: time I caught my man with a girl in his
Speaker 1: house and she had on a pair of his sweatpants. Right,
Speaker 1: that's so upset it, that's so upsetting the same being
Speaker 1: you like the word too. I was like, oh really okay,
Speaker 1: So I screenshot it and I'm like, oh, so this
Speaker 1: is what we're doing. Okay. So I ended up going
Speaker 1: to his house for five days, made when my period
Speaker 1: was not because that's the only time I ever catch
Speaker 1: some one of they you can't even wait a couple
Speaker 1: of days. I swear to God I can't. But anyway,
Speaker 1: you can't do it. I mean lately, I have to
Speaker 1: admit right now, like I'm in a good place when
Speaker 1: it comes to my love life. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing effort and I'm really proud of this person.
Speaker 1: But anyway, let's go back to the story. So when
Speaker 1: I got to his house, sweatpants and I found sweatpants
Speaker 1: and I smelled them, and they smell like a dirty
Speaker 1: ass no stuff. I swear this is a true story. Okay,
Speaker 1: See that would bring me some petty joy, be like,
Speaker 1: I mean joy because I took out. I was like,
Speaker 1: you really fucking but just who don't know how to
Speaker 1: clean and pussy really smell? It's like that smelling And
Speaker 1: he's like, what are you talking about? He's like, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? He's like, that just wasn't she
Speaker 1: wasn't where I'm like, so this is how you smell.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, yeah, that's discussing, Stephanie. I'm not swelling.
Speaker 1: I'm not smelling nobody. Not only did he cheat on you,
Speaker 1: but you also smelled division ass, Like Alrett, you could
Speaker 1: smell my sluts. I promise you girls, you could smell
Speaker 1: my sweats and they smell good. Kapanie, we are not
Speaker 1: smelling your ass. You're good and it's not like nothing.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna smell anything. I smelled her maybe it
Speaker 1: was tap on Tuesday. I was like, you're walking with
Speaker 1: these little young twenty year old butshes who don't know
Speaker 1: how to clean the ass yet. Well, damn was very specific. Now,
Speaker 1: let me ask you, guys, tell you are you the
Speaker 1: type of girl who would cancel on your friends for
Speaker 1: a man. You know, there's some women at periods of
Speaker 1: time in our life when our man took so much
Speaker 1: precedence that sometimes we didn't see our friends and we
Speaker 1: weren't the best friends that we could have been to
Speaker 1: our girls just because we were in a relationship. I'm definitely, yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely guilty of that um in the past, but I'd
Speaker 1: be very trans parents with it sometimes, Like I'll if
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, laadies, me and my man are going
Speaker 1: through something, or I'm trying to get my man back
Speaker 1: and I really, you know, need to do this or whatever,
Speaker 1: I'm never just gonna be like I'm never gonna got
Speaker 1: or just be like a total flake. I'm gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I'm choosing to go do this because I'm growing and
Speaker 1: I'm letting you know, and I'm sorry. I'll make it
Speaker 1: up to you. You know, Okay, that's fair. Some people
Speaker 1: will lie and be like, oh I feel asleep or no,
Speaker 1: I hate it. I think I hate that me and
Speaker 1: I always I cancel on everything for my right. You
Speaker 1: thought you're sleeping in my house and I girl, that
Speaker 1: resonates with me. Yeah, I get that. I'm I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Asked it was a couple of star to do the show,
Speaker 1: because I was yes, she work, Okay, the party's not
Speaker 1: in show up too, because listen, I like to be
Speaker 1: by myself. I'm like, quarantine is nothing for me. I'm
Speaker 1: always I like being home alone. It's even training for this. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I've been entrained. But when it comes to so like
Speaker 1: when my friends are around me too long, I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, this, I gotta I need she
Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta go long. I'm like, oh, Stacy, please,
Speaker 1: I love you. Stacy. I'm like, I love you, girl,
Speaker 1: but I need I need some time when I'm with
Speaker 1: my man. He goes to the bathroom. I'm dying. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, when is he going back? Why did you
Speaker 1: have to go to the bathroom? Toxic? Yea toxic bro.
Speaker 1: I was just I just spent um. I just spent
Speaker 1: almost three weeks in his house and I um bout
Speaker 1: day five. I was ready to go home. Oh but
Speaker 1: so how did you turn the corner though and make
Speaker 1: it the three weeks weeks? I asked him. I was like, hey, baby, mom,
Speaker 1: I've been here a while. You want to think a
Speaker 1: sign for me to go home? And he was like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not going home until I say you're going home.
Speaker 1: You like that. Rob figure it out, but you know,
Speaker 1: we take off. But one thing about being with this person,
Speaker 1: he we take our space when we're together, Like he'll
Speaker 1: go someone, he'll go work out or do whatever he's doing,
Speaker 1: and I'll go do whatever I'm doing. And then we'll
Speaker 1: meet in the middle something at some point during the
Speaker 1: day or in the nighttime. Like it's not like we're
Speaker 1: always in each other's face. But if you do with
Speaker 1: this phone and year around it's his phone, like this,
Speaker 1: it's on silent and and and and does he turned
Speaker 1: it over? Because I'm very stucked with my phone so
Speaker 1: I just asking if someone who's very sad, what you
Speaker 1: got to hide jail, Joel, It was just my business.
Speaker 1: I pay the bill, Like I feel like he puts
Speaker 1: the phone really close to his face and then when
Speaker 1: he when he's done, he puts it in his pocket.
Speaker 1: You see that would irk me? I would, I don't
Speaker 1: know it would. In the he sleeps with his pants
Speaker 1: with sweatpants, sweatshworts, phone in the pocket. That's crazy, crazy,
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. You don't working about me looking at his phone.
Speaker 1: I don't want him looking at my phone, so all
Speaker 1: of that, but you you would look at it if
Speaker 1: you could, like say, he went to the bathroom and
Speaker 1: he left it unlocked for you know, those five seconds
Speaker 1: it's unlocked. One time this did happen in the very
Speaker 1: beginning of our relationship. We were we were in a
Speaker 1: hotel and he was living in the hotel, and he
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom and his phone was unlocked. And
Speaker 1: I've seen a gold ding. So I went and I
Speaker 1: looked at it, and I saw what a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of it I didn't want to see out of my
Speaker 1: life that I would never look through his phone. However
Speaker 1: again in my life because going anywhere, he's not going
Speaker 1: any I'd rather I'd rather not even know. So no,
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want to know. Hey, he Marrio,
Speaker 1: have you ever given out your password to your phone? Now?
Speaker 1: I always do you do? Yeah, because I'm an idiot, like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's my birthday. Duh? What about what about you and Jojo? Um? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I tried that. No, it was fine, it was fine.
Speaker 1: You know, I've I've had all different dynamics and relationships.
Speaker 1: I've I've tried an open relationship. I've tried um, you know,
Speaker 1: super closed where you know, you have my password and
Speaker 1: I have yours and stuff and and it was cool.
Speaker 1: And then that person cheated on me and then I
Speaker 1: was bruised, and I carried that energy into the next
Speaker 1: one and brought my own savagery into the mix. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. You know, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to live. What about living with guys? Do you like?
Speaker 1: Is that something that you've done, like lived with your
Speaker 1: boyfriends or whatever? You know, I've actually only had a
Speaker 1: boyfriend like live with me. Um, So I've never intentionally
Speaker 1: cohabitated with somebody and but like definitely done the oh
Speaker 1: it feels like we're, you know, playing house or whatever. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: and spent a lot of time over a guy's place.
Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to it. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm really happy, like with my own space right now.
Speaker 1: But I think it'll be cute. It'll be cute. I
Speaker 1: went to fall in love. I share my location, you
Speaker 1: share your You're falling in love with the same person
Speaker 1: over and over. When we break up, that's when you
Speaker 1: know what's I'm mad at him when I take my
Speaker 1: location off. Oh that's the that's the sign. I'm just
Speaker 1: grabbing a chargers. We're getting a nice tour, nice house.
Speaker 1: I like that around a little bit. I wish I could.
Speaker 1: I got to clean my damn place. But so, how
Speaker 1: did it feel putting out this album? And I know,
Speaker 1: obviously it's a difficult time you were supposed to be
Speaker 1: on tour and everything, but it's still well received. So
Speaker 1: what's that? Yeah, I mean, how ridiculous would I be
Speaker 1: if I'm like, oh god, poor me. I mean, people
Speaker 1: are really going through it right now. So what I'm
Speaker 1: that that it threw off my touring schedule or you know,
Speaker 1: it's just this is the time that people first of all,
Speaker 1: we have a cape to audience, so so they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're taking in my music, however they are from their
Speaker 1: home and it's Yeah, the reception has been freaking really dope.
Speaker 1: I mean, Drake had to put out a mixtape the
Speaker 1: same day that I put on my album. But besides
Speaker 1: that shit, no, but um, it's it's been really cool.
Speaker 1: I miss like I want to be out there and touring,
Speaker 1: and I'm just as much as I love l A,
Speaker 1: I'm in my damn house like i'mutside, I don't want to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm excited to get on tour like at the
Speaker 1: end of the year or whenever you know, the world resumes.
Speaker 1: We made you choose Tory Lanes. I had the feature
Speaker 1: for your project because you don't have any other features,
Speaker 1: just him, and it's a dope as record. But women,
Speaker 1: do you go with him? Well, first of all, I
Speaker 1: I do want to collaborate with way more people, but
Speaker 1: but I'll start with with Tory. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: working on something for a while, Like we did a
Speaker 1: college show a few years ago at like one of
Speaker 1: those Ivy League schools like Princeton or Gale or Harvard.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one, but we we did a
Speaker 1: show and I was like, oh ship, he's he's really
Speaker 1: dope when you say it. I love that song. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do them a lot and just um so,
Speaker 1: and then I started to listen to more stuff because
Speaker 1: he was like if we should getting the studio blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. Anyway, when I wrote come Back Dirty Rock
Speaker 1: who produced it, and I were like, this would be
Speaker 1: this would be dope to really just have a guy
Speaker 1: on it and talk shit like word. And the first
Speaker 1: person that came to mind was Tory because I had
Speaker 1: just broken a minute was like my favorite song that
Speaker 1: had just come out, and so I sent him the
Speaker 1: song and he wrote me right back. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: definitely the guy for this. I should have known because
Speaker 1: he basically killed me on my own song. It's kind
Speaker 1: of late. Didn't not kill you. He he did a thing,
Speaker 1: but I just lost you. Guys. I thought it sounded
Speaker 1: a little different, but I wasn't sure what. I think
Speaker 1: it's switched from her switch. Let's take that singing. We're
Speaker 1: gonna loop it and make a song. Hello you know
Speaker 1: angelaa rap? Oh word? Now I just said you're singing
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Can you hear us? Yeah? I can hear
Speaker 1: you in one headphone? This crazy. I was just saying
Speaker 1: that we're gonna take your singing and loop it and
Speaker 1: make it into a song. Please please sample me. Al
Speaker 1: is gonna wrap over it, so it's gonna be Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna watching you and all your bead videos. You're
Speaker 1: the real rapper. So I'm just write it for Angela though,
Speaker 1: because she's been trying to wrap for a while. Now.
Speaker 1: So what are you drinking? Oh? So I'm drinking Tekla
Speaker 1: because it is the day that we recorded this single
Speaker 1: to Maya. This is this is Michael Jordan's m tequila.
Speaker 1: It's called to Cora Flag. I've been testing it. I've
Speaker 1: been testing it. It's pretty good. This is the Reptile
Speaker 1: and she's drunk. I am. I'm got to start drinking
Speaker 1: when it hits about what time is it? When it
Speaker 1: hits four pm? Here in New York, it's almost seven,
Speaker 1: So I think it's fair. Yeah, I know you're good.
Speaker 1: Get happy all we're happy. All. Now, let's me ask
Speaker 1: you this, like, how much do you let slide? I
Speaker 1: know you'se little last slide. Stephanie in a relationship. But
Speaker 1: you know, how much do you think that, like you
Speaker 1: try not to argue when you let a lot of
Speaker 1: things slide that maybe looking back, you're like, why did
Speaker 1: I let that go? We're gonna let Joe Joe answer,
Speaker 1: you want me to answer this, stephaniely let everything slide.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. It seems like I let everything
Speaker 1: is fod But in reality, I don't. I break up
Speaker 1: with the I break up with this man for any thing.
Speaker 1: If one hair is out of place? What is this
Speaker 1: doing in your house? Okay? I'm even I don't want
Speaker 1: to be you love it? You love it? Some people
Speaker 1: like every other day they break up. Okay, So I've
Speaker 1: definitely been in that that pattern that you know that's
Speaker 1: totally get that. But for me right now, what I'm
Speaker 1: I will probably let something slide, But it's all relative, right,
Speaker 1: like what we consider letting things slide. Like I I'm
Speaker 1: gonna compromise with my man. We're gonna talk things out,
Speaker 1: um and I'd be fucking up. So I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: him to let some things slide too. But it's all
Speaker 1: I don't know. I as as I as I grow
Speaker 1: and I get older, I realized that you just have
Speaker 1: to really actively listen and like try to understand where
Speaker 1: another person is coming from. And if you can do that,
Speaker 1: then you can have a good relationship. How was those
Speaker 1: open relationships for you? Because you talked about you once
Speaker 1: tried that. Would you try that again or is that
Speaker 1: something that's for you? I don't think that's for me
Speaker 1: at this point in my life. I did that earlier
Speaker 1: in my twenties and tried it once and then, um,
Speaker 1: I actually ended up not wanting to be with anybody else.
Speaker 1: We ended up closing the relationship. And then that man
Speaker 1: cheated on me once the relationship and he was used
Speaker 1: to doing what he was doing already, I guess, So,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really know how to just was
Speaker 1: it was what it was, So I don't know. I
Speaker 1: was kind of hurt by that situation, So I don't
Speaker 1: think I would want to try it again. Did he
Speaker 1: ever try to approach you? Like, hey, how about we
Speaker 1: bring a girl into the bedroom And no, that particular
Speaker 1: person knew not to go there with me, But um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I've gone there. I'm into it, Like Mary, you know,
Speaker 1: it depends everything is case by case, Like you shouldn't
Speaker 1: for me, I don't think you should it with every
Speaker 1: not everybody deserves it, and it doesn't feel right with everybody.
Speaker 1: You need to be able to trust what's going on,
Speaker 1: so you know, if if the mood, if the mood
Speaker 1: strikes me, I'm open to whatever. Is it better, but
Speaker 1: better with a girl you know or a stranger? Like
Speaker 1: would you say, okay, let's bring I I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't have that much experience to where I can even
Speaker 1: speak to like whether it's better with my girl or
Speaker 1: straight now, I don't know. You know, but did you pick?
Speaker 1: Were you able to pick? Or did he pick? Or
Speaker 1: was it like ya were just out and was like,
Speaker 1: oh whatever if this person, no, this was this was
Speaker 1: all my doing. Let's have a three somewhere. This girl
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in this day. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: I just let the moment roll. But I I premeditated
Speaker 1: it from the beginning of the night pretty much. You know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't gonna say no. I don't like I've had
Speaker 1: three to three sons in my entire life, both with
Speaker 1: the same girl. So you liked this girl a lot.
Speaker 1: I just trust her and I know that she's not
Speaker 1: gonna make me do anything to her. She likes everything
Speaker 1: to me, so and I don't like girls. It worked out,
Speaker 1: but I and I have such like the two threesomes
Speaker 1: that I've had were fired like some fire sex. But
Speaker 1: I I just I couldnot be with somebody I love
Speaker 1: and another woman I feel. I totally feel you. So
Speaker 1: it's like a totally to you. I can't watch the
Speaker 1: man I love have sex with a woman. I can.
Speaker 1: I can watch some other things for them, but no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I can't do it. I'm a freak out. Wait what
Speaker 1: some other things go down? Girl? What do you think?
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see your dick in somebody else? Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what you mean. Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to see that With Stephanie. It feels like Stephanie calls
Speaker 1: the girl and she's like, I know what's up girl?
Speaker 1: Like I'm a back back girl. Is ready? I got
Speaker 1: me and me and this girl. We've had two threesomes
Speaker 1: in like apart ten years, like happened last year and
Speaker 1: the other one happened like eight years ago. Okay, so
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna lie. Both times we were like yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: so really y'all go together? Yeah? We go together? Right?
Speaker 1: Or die? You never had sex with somebody and you
Speaker 1: felt like they were a fan, like they were amazing.
Speaker 1: Yes they were, yes, yes, Oh my god, let me
Speaker 1: tell you actually a horrid story. Oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is so embarrassing, but I'm not telling you, Okay. So
Speaker 1: I was. I had known this guy for a long
Speaker 1: time because I tend to have these experiences with like again,
Speaker 1: I don't just I don't meet somebody and like let
Speaker 1: them into my life. I knew this person for like
Speaker 1: seven years, and I never thought that we would end
Speaker 1: up going there, but we did. And um, you know,
Speaker 1: he had always told me how much, you know, he
Speaker 1: respected me as an artist, my voice, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So when I finally was like, let's do this, he
Speaker 1: was like okay. Then he put on Usher's Superstar on loop.
Speaker 1: Do you know that song you groopy babe? Do you
Speaker 1: want my super stuff? He put it on, like on
Speaker 1: a continuous playlist, and it was just like I never
Speaker 1: thought this moment would come, and I'm just like, oh, so,
Speaker 1: like really, you know, it was so gross, and retrospect
Speaker 1: was very It was like in the moment, I guess
Speaker 1: it was okay because we were like really drunk off tequila.
Speaker 1: But now that I'm thinking about it, and and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is gross. That crazy effort is that you had
Speaker 1: sex with him again because you told that you never
Speaker 1: had a one nice thing. I know. That was like
Speaker 1: a week of just like, really, what a weird experience.
Speaker 1: That was a weird experience. It was good, it was
Speaker 1: I mean, it was good. He did a good job.
Speaker 1: But you're like, I'm talking, but worth it? Are you loud?
Speaker 1: Are you loud in the bedroom? I'm sure you can
Speaker 1: imagine that with my uh my resonance, my voice that yes,
Speaker 1: I I am loud, And but it's also fun to
Speaker 1: like have to shut the funk up sometimes and like
Speaker 1: be quite. You know, I like all of it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: well listen, all of this was good to know you see.
Speaker 1: That's what I was talking about. That's why the album
Speaker 1: is called this be Some No, It's perfect. I love it.
Speaker 1: I think it's great, and it's gonna make people relate
Speaker 1: to you more because these are stories that are hilarious
Speaker 1: and likelivable, and you know, I don't like I don't
Speaker 1: like when people put out like the music that you've
Speaker 1: put out that is so personal and like it's very real.
Speaker 1: Is sexual some of it, and then you don't talk
Speaker 1: like that at all. It doesn't match up. So now, yeah,
Speaker 1: some of the real experiences. Yeah, I mean when when
Speaker 1: I when I wrote come Back, and I'm like, tell
Speaker 1: me it's mine. I'm gonna lose my fucking mind. I
Speaker 1: need that dick all the time. I was like, am
Speaker 1: I about to say this? I'm like, fuck it, my girl,
Speaker 1: this is how I talk. Here we are. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you're You're like, not limited, but do you
Speaker 1: feel like you think twice with those lyrics because you
Speaker 1: were singing young, so you had to kind of watch
Speaker 1: the way that you said certain things when you were younger.
Speaker 1: So now you're still like now, because what's the whole
Speaker 1: back you feel like from like saying things like that,
Speaker 1: because you seem pretty open. I am very open, but
Speaker 1: it's I think about my family. I think about um
Speaker 1: where where I come from, and just like you know,
Speaker 1: I think about my aunt telling me how she loves
Speaker 1: how classy I am. And I'm like, and so I
Speaker 1: told my aunt Connie earlier this year, I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something. Don't say some things that you're
Speaker 1: not gonna understand. I was like, but I want to
Speaker 1: let you know that even though I'm a big old freak,
Speaker 1: I'm still a really classy woman and I'm a bad girl,
Speaker 1: but I'm a great woman. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: so she's like, Joanna, don't be talking about Dick. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, honey, does she have kids? She does. She
Speaker 1: was talking about Dick at one point in time. Two girls.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, people want to act like they
Speaker 1: were never like that. I just actually shot I just
Speaker 1: shot a video at my place and I shot it
Speaker 1: on my table and my mom was like, I was like, Mom,
Speaker 1: sorry that you're about to see me, like, you know,
Speaker 1: be writhing on this table and stuff. And she's like
Speaker 1: I was fucked on so many tables. I was like, yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: so it's amazing. That's where I get it from. Pretty much.
Speaker 1: Well we love it up. I saw you guys hiking
Speaker 1: and so so distancing and everything, so yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 1: I will thank you. All right, can you day industry guys, Jojo?
Speaker 1: Because I know you had a soccer player, want to
Speaker 1: what do you mean by industry guys? Like do you like,
Speaker 1: will you limit? Will you cut them off? Because it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't want to date anybody in the
Speaker 1: same industry as me, or like, do you like regular
Speaker 1: guys or does it not matter? I prefer guys who
Speaker 1: Actually it doesn't matter, It really doesn't matter. But I
Speaker 1: need you to be confident with what you do for
Speaker 1: a career. Um, I'd like you to know about music,
Speaker 1: because I remember I was talking to this guy I
Speaker 1: did it wasn't serious, but I talked to this guy
Speaker 1: who was in real estate and who like I didn't
Speaker 1: know who tried called quest was and like what's from? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, I need you to know music, love music,
Speaker 1: and um, you don't need to be in music, right,
Speaker 1: So well, the guy knew esther, he knew you was here.
Speaker 1: You guys stop sorry, all right? Well, Joe, Joe, thank
Speaker 1: you so much. We appreciate you for taking the time
Speaker 1: out for us. Thank you so much. I hate my
Speaker 1: freaking headphones. Okay, this's fun, but I'm gonna try that
Speaker 1: one day too, when I'm ready to go. I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to go. Yeah, I get it. This thing on,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm trying. It's okay, John, Joe. I
Speaker 1: had a good question for you, but we're gonna let
Speaker 1: you go on nothing part too. For you, thank you, congratulations.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, okay,