WEBVTT - Happy Half Hour Episode 129: Baptism By Fire 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:05.880 This week on a Happy half Hour, he. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:07.720 Said, it's going to be a little bit of baptism 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:10.200 by fire, and you know, just kind of let them 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.039 grow within the game, because that works too. If you 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.440 have the right coach mindset, which like I said, I 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:19.080 think Dave Canals does, you can help them grow over 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.720 through those lumps and through those trials and tribulations. 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:29.760 Touchdow Row. It's time for the Happy Half Hour, presented 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.760 by Southern Star, an official bourbon of the Carolina Panthers. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.800 Here are your hosts, Darren Gant and Cassidy Hill. 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.640 Hello, friends, and welcome to the Happy Half Hour, a 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.440 regular season edition of the Happy Half Hour. How about that? 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.080 And we made it and we're extra happy because this 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.840 edition is brought to us by our friends at Southern Star, 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.800 an official bourbon partner of the Carolina Panthers. Celebrate this 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.080 spirit of the Carolinas with a little Southern Star. Now 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.039 that it's regular season time. I think we're all old 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:07.600 one at this point, aren't we. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.240 Think so too? Or maybe you know, need one just 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:13.080 before we get things started, just. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.000 To get right with ourselves going into a long year. No, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.679 it's been a long time coming, and we you know, 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.640 talked last week in the Ghost episode of The Happy 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:25.039 Half Hour, the Ghost episode between I think that set 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.160 it in between one. It's like a hidden track on 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:29.240 the back of a CD. Are you familiar with that. 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.200 I'm familiar with bonus tracks that Taylor Swift puts on 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:34.480 anthology album. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.560 Well, on the back end of CDs. Back in the 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.720 old days, there used to be hidden tracks that weren't 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.480 in the liner notes and you just kind of had 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.160 to listen to a minute and a half of silence 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.839 to ever get to it. It's an interesting concept, I'm 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:49.360 you know, it's one of those things that there's a 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.080 very narrow vinniagram of people who know about them, and. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.600 Uh, what's the greatest bonus track ever written? 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:59.720 I enjoy There was one on a Lile Love It album. 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.000 I think it was the Rodents and Nada album called 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:04.720 The Girl in the Corner, and a lot of people 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.120 believe it was about the Julie Roberts, you know, era 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.400 of his life. But anyway, that's a story about Loud 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.000 Love It CDs that I'm sure is going to do 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:15.560 wonders for our ratings here at the Happy half Hour. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.119 We'll get to music in a little bit I've got 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.720 an idea for a bit in this podcast, and I 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:22.519 think you're a bit that I think you're going to 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.919 get a kick out of. But first, we football, because 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:30.360 it is in fact regular season football time. We have 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.880 been through a lot in the last week. We've seen 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.440 some things, We've seen people coming and going a lot 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.119 of each This is a different football team than it 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.480 was the last time we gathered here, isn't. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.840 It It is? And you warned people that that would happen. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.440 You said they're going to be active on the waiver wire, 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.639 and I believed you in theory. I don't think I 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.720 fully grasped how active they would be on the waiver wire. 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:59.799 Yeah, in case you aren't tracking Thepanthers dot com transaction page. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.760 If you're not, what are you doing? If you're not, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.400 what's wrong with you? That would be six count of 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.520 six waiver claims on record. It is not a record. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.560 I actually contacted our good friends at three forty five 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.880 Park Avenue, which I now know is the NFL often 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:19.480 there you go and see you're paying attention, and I asked, 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:21.880 is six a record? And they said it not? In 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:26.080 fact the record. There were multiple instances of seven, so 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.840 it is no fun from a record standpoint, but a 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:31.800 lot of people coming and going, and in case you 0:03:31.960 --> 0:03:36.920 didn't remember them all, that would be Keenan, Isaac Shamar Bartholomew, 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:41.960 Trepe Castro Fields, Jamie Sheriff, John Radigan, and Jarrett Kingston. 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.680 Come on down and welcome to the Carolina Panthers. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:49.680 A lot of names that aren't necessarily going to jump 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:54.640 out to people from a from a popularity point of view, 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.200 but names that when you look into them, are really interesting. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.560 Jamar Bartholomew, for example, four different teams put in a 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.800 claim for him, which was the most of anyone on 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.760 the waiver wire this year. He's a rookie. He spent 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.400 training camp with the Jets, someone that Dave Canalis admitted 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.160 wasn't really on their radar until that joint practice with 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.320 the Jets, which is another pro in the column of 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:20.679 doing joint practices right. And and someone that they've already 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.880 run out there a good bit dear in practice. He's uh, 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:28.800 he's life. But he's the on the smaller end of 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.040 the corners. They claimed. But that's even bigger than they 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.360 had because they went big at corner and we're gonna 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.159 said that's what we want to do that we want big, 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:40.760 fast corners, and they got him with that. But Bartholo 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.400 for sure is going to be an interesting one to watch, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:49.240 just because you have to imagine if the Panthers, the Saints, 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:54.520 the Chiefs, and the Chargers, I think that's right, if 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.919 they all saw something in him, then there's something there. 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.599 To be seen. I mean again, big cornerbacks who can 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.560 run always going to get chances in the NFL. And 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.440 as you mentioned, I mean Dan Morgan came out last 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.440 week and talked a good bit about you know, it's 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.320 kind of a big man's game, and they wanted to 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.599 get more physical at that position. And this is nothing 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:17.240 against guys like DiCaprio, Bootle and DeShawn Jamison who are 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.120 smaller guys but really game players. I love the way 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.240 they played hard, they got after it during the preseason. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.080 But they just kind of got to a point when 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.400 Dan Jackson was out before they got Mike Jackson in here, 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.680 who they traded for just before the week before the 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:38.680 waiverclaimed deadline, and another big corner and they just kind 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.480 of looked around and they thought, we're so small, let's 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.880 do something about it. And they did something about it 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.359 with Gusto, and I mean that hadn't been the end 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:48.880 of the moves. I mean they filled out a practice squad, 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.600 you know, they let go of Calebon and Chase On 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.919 brought in Messiah Swinson speaking a big you know, just 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.320 your average six foot eight, two hundred and sixty pound 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.200 power forward who happens to be a tight end for 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.640 you're a Carolina Panthers now. And and you talked to 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:07.200 him yesterday. I mean he's a guy who's really really 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:07.719 new here. 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.560 I had to look straight up to talk to him. 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.440 But yeah, really really knew. He said his twenty four 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:16.680 hours before that had just sort of been a whirlwind. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:21.880 That his agent called him at eleven am on what 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:27.239 day is it? Tuesday? And he said, initially he ignored 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.000 the call because he was going into meetings. He was 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.960 with the packers before this, and his agent texted him 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.120 and was like, call me back right now. So he 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.160 calls him back and his agent's like, I've got an 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.800 active roster situation for you. You need to decide in 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:44.560 like the next sixty seconds. And he was like okay. So, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.720 as he said, his agent gave him an elevator pitch 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:51.240 and he's like good coach, good Room a great opportunity, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.000 and he's like, okay, let's go. He's primarily an in 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.120 line blocker, he said, he's been doing that really since 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.200 his sophomore year of college. That's all he was asked 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:04.200 to do with the Packers as well, but obviously, said Darren, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:05.920 I mean, he's six's eight, he's big. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:06.560 Yeah. 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:08.839 I would love to see them toss a few balls 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.280 his way, just to see as long as he has 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.680 decent hands. And he's not that kid from Little Giants 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:15.440 as to like put the stick them on his gloves 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:18.400 if he's got decent hands. Gosh, that's a mismatch. 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.080 I don't think that's legal in the NFL anymore, but 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.440 it does kind of point to I mean, and beyond 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.040 the size thing. And Matt's going to pull this clip 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.520 for us and play it so you can hear Dave 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.280 Canalis talk about it. But if there is a theme 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:35.920 emerging already in this Carolina Panthers season, it's that they're 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:37.760 going to give a lot of guys chances to play. 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:39.600 They're going to go out and look at a bunch 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.120 of different people. I mean, they've already kind of promised 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.920 to turn over the practice squad, and even after they 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.480 filled up the practice squad initially, they've brought in like 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.000 three or four different guys since then, And that thing's 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.760 continuing to evolve, and I imagine it is going to 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.280 continue to for the next several weeks. I mean, after 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.080 we get through this week, you know, teams will start 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.360 signing veteran guys so they don't have to guarantee the 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:03.920 salary for the whole year. Somebody's going to shake loose. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.320 Dan's going to be looking at the waiver wires seeing 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.320 if any of those guys are of interest to them. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.520 So I think, you know, for the next couple of weeks, 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.840 while they have that first spot in the waiverclaim order, 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.200 they're going to continue to consider using it. And where 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.360 it's interesting to me is Dave Canalis has talked several 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.200 times over the last few days about the idea of 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.960 giving guys chances. When he said it during the press 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.720 conference yesterday, he was talking about the context ab outside linebackers. 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.280 You cut calebon Chase on and everybody's wondering, what are 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.439 you going to do opposite Shadavian Clowney. He's a known commodity. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.320 We trust him. He's a known producer. That seems cool. 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.960 What are you going to do until DJ Wanham gets back? 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:48.760 And the answer is some combination of DJ Johnson, Echuliota 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:53.400 and our new friend Jamie Sheriff, who is a South 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.240 Alabama guy who wasn't even drafted, wasn't even signed after 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.520 being a tryout player with the Seahawks, but he has 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:03.320 three three preseason games for Seattle. And Dan saw the 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.320 tape and figure to give them a shot. And Dave 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.359 Canalis said, We're going to continue to give those guys. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.240 Shots plam, play them early and and see what we 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.640 got there. You know, that's that's been something that's you know, 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:17.000 kind of ingrained in my DNA is. Let's get information 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.080 about the players. Let's not be afraid to play young 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.240 guys on the offense or the defensive side. Let's get 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.520 them out there. They will learn the football. We will 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.360 be all better for it when we get into week 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.000 six seven and you go to the finish of the season. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.560 The more you play these guys early on, we can 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.160 get them game ready, but we can't be afraid to 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:34.679 expose them to that. And we got to live with 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:34.959 some of. 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.360 The lumps, And I think it's a it's a reasonable position. 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.600 We will see when you tune into the Panthers Huddle 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.559 and television later this weekend, hosted by an amateur television 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.560 host and some professional football coaches and former players, you 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.280 will hear Dave Canalis say another version of that is, 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:56.440 you know, we understand this is a learning year, and 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:58.679 this is a learning process, so we want to start 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.320 with young guys. We want to give the opportunities to 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.880 learn and grow. That was their experience when he came 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.720 in with Pete Carroll and Seattle, and he wants to 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.520 do it here. So I think, you know, it could 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.120 come as a culture shock to people to actually hear 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.920 coaches say that out loud, but it's kind of a 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.000 bold strategy strategy to just say, hey, here's the best 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:20.800 chance for a lot of guys to win jobs. Let's 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:21.520 see what happens. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:26.200 Yeah, old strategy, Cotton for sure. I think where I 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:29.000 always get a little iffy with that, and then I'm 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.640 not saying that they shouldn't do it. I always get 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:35.040 a little iffy with let me backtrack and say, you 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.920 have to have the right coach and the right coaching 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:39.400 mindset to pull this off. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:39.800 M M. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.000 Because and I think Dave Canalis does, because you run 0:10:44.040 --> 0:10:46.280 the risk of throwing someone out there in their first 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:50.720 year it going horribly and it's setting them back from 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:51.880 a mental standpoint. 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.160 Sure years we've seen that with quarterbacks in the past. 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.920 And again I'm much much older than you, and remember 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:00.720 the Jimmy class and days here in Bank of America 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.360 Stadium that did not go well for the team or 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.480 Jimmy in that situation. And it's unfair for some guys 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.880 if they're put into that situation. But your point is 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.480 a valid one, and Dave has talked a lot about 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.720 the efforts they're making to coach these guys up in 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.240 a very specific way. One of the things that's interesting 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:22.640 to me about Canalis he is portrayed as positive guy, 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:28.360 upbeat guy, happy guy. He is a very granular, detailed 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.000 kind of coach. And one of the things he said 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.480 stood out to me last week was when he was 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.800 talking about leaning on guys like Jim Colwell and Dom Capers, 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.160 and he said, Dom Capers told me to spend less 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:41.120 time in a team meeting room so we could get 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.040 a more time with position coaches to get that you know, 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.920 really ground level grassroots coaching. That so many of these 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.199 young guys need. And I think that's an interesting point. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.960 Yeah, and that goes back to the point that everyone 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.120 has made about Dave Canally since he's been a coach 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.959 in the NFL. You know, we heard former Seahawks play 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:02.600 saying there was a guy that no matter if he 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:07.000 was a QA or a position coach or a coordinator, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.800 he was out there kind of moving the bags over 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.280 an inch and a half, which kind of reminded me 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.920 of our old friend Connor moving the bags over an 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.720 engine a half because he knew that's what where Pete 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:20.120 Carroll wanted them. And so I think when you've kind 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:24.040 of built up that mindset, it should help you in 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.920 the long term, even if you're now the big picture 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.800 guy at the head coach. That being said, and I 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:34.240 don't want this to seem negative, nancy or anything, but 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:37.679 I think my job right. I don't think it's a 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:41.040 bad approach at all. The way that Dave Canalis is 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.400 kind of wanting to take this team and letting Jamie 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.120 Sheriff who DJ Johnson just kind of get out there 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.079 and he said, see what we got with each of 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.199 these guys, and he said, it's going to be a 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:53.360 little bit of baptism by fire, and you know, just 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.760 kind of let them grow within the game because that 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.480 works too. If you have the right coach mindset, which 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.160 like I said, think Dave Canals does, you can help 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:05.400 them grow over through those lumps and through those trials 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:09.319 and tribulations and come out forged stronger on the other side. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.960 And he made that comment, he said, you know, it 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.760 might there might be lumps. We have to take it first. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.240 But then you get to week six, you get to 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:18.280 week seven, you get towards the end of the season, 0:13:18.360 --> 0:13:21.480 and you've got someone who isn't scared anymore to go 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.480 out there. So that being said, no, I think we 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.679 might need to temper some expectations for the first few weeks, 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.960 which I think that those are tempered. But it's it's 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:34.960 very easy this time of year to get caught up 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.199 in we're gonna win it all, and these first few 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.400 weeks might take a little bit of time just to 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.120 get this thing going. You might take a year. 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:45.840 Yeah, the good news is they're playing a Saints team 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.680 that's also a good bit of transition themselves. They've changed 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.720 they've changed offensive coordinators in the off season. Dennis Allen's 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.199 still there. And there are a lot of people as 0:13:55.240 --> 0:14:00.120 you peruse your you know, NFL preview magazines and all 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.120 that cool stuff your phone, yeh know, know your phone 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.400 Panthers dot com, a lot of people have a lot 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.920 of very low expectations for these two football teams. And 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.960 I think it's going to be fascinating. Somebody asked me 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.440 what I expected this weekend in New Orleans, and I 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.800 just kind of laughed and said, chaos, just because that's 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.040 what we usually get when we go to New Orleans. 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:21.680 What most people get when they go to New Orleans. 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.400 I mean, yeah, and this most of them outside of 0:14:25.440 --> 0:14:28.680 the Superdome. For us inside the super Dome, it is 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.960 almost alarming. These two teams have played fifty eight times. 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.840 These Saints hold a thirty to twenty eight advantage in 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.400 the all time series, and I think it's fifteen fourteen 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.360 in the Dome. Yeah, so that is correct, fifteen and 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:45.640 fourteen in the Dome. So it's been very even. It's 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:48.640 been your guess as good as mine sometimes when these 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.960 two teams get together. But I think with where the 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.840 two teams are, it's very instructive because a year ago 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.400 for the Carolina Panthers the questions became, can they score 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.840 a point? Are they going to be able to move 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.800 the ball at all? And with the power of the 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:09.840 greatest drive in preseason football history, you know, I think 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.360 they sort of brought back some of those questions. And 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:15.760 Bryce Young looked really good in Buffalo, and Bryce Young 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.800 has been really clean, whether it's the joint practices with 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.520 the Jets or throughout training camp. And I think it's 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.320 kind of flipped a little bit because a year ago 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.560 it was whether they're gonna play good defense, are they 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.440 gonna be able to score any points? And now I 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.000 think people feel a little more comfortable about the offense 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.680 in general, just because they keep talking about they're gonna run, 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.440 and they invested in the parts you need to run 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.760 an offensive linemen. And they've got Chuba Hubbard in the 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.280 middle of the backfield, so they liked their ability to 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:47.800 be physical there. They like the way Bryce is taking 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.640 care of the ball. You wrote an incredible piece the 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.480 other day about you know, the whole notion of two 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.440 point seven seconds and how that's just the first part 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:59.320 of the play and Bryce has done a good job 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.600 of extending plays beyond that. We saw a perfect example 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:03.360 of it in Buffalo. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.840 That fourth down throw to Deontay Johnson was everything that 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.280 they have kind of wanted to build Bryce up to 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.520 to get to this season. And you know, like you said, Darren, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.080 we've heard so much this off season about two point 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.800 seven two point seven, and it was interesting to just 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.680 kind of sit down with Bryce and pick his brain 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.720 about it and realize that to him, it's much more 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:26.760 of a philosophy than like a horn going off. I 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.880 have to have the ball out by two point seven, 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.640 and it's I it's if he gets to two point 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:34.440 seven and that ball is not out, it's time to 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.960 move on to the next play. And I think that 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:41.280 it's interesting too that they've been very intentional about not 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.800 calling it a scramble drill, but by calling it the 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.840 second play, it's time to make the second play. And yes, 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.840 that second play is not quite as organized because it 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:53.560 is at the end of the day, let's call space bade. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.400 It's a scramble drill. But it's still a lot of 0:16:56.440 --> 0:17:00.440 their concepts built within a lot of what they working 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.639 on this offseason, and we've seen it come out so 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.359 many times in practice and then to actually see it 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.359 come out in a game, I mean that was a 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:13.800 fourth and three play versus Buffalo, and as soon as 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.560 it got to that, you know, it's a point of like, okay, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.159 if all the plays in the playbook take under three seconds, 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.960 and you've gotten to three seconds, you know, your internal 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.920 clock goes off and you go, okay, that first play 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.480 is over. And that's the same for the receivers as well. 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:33.040 That play is over, it's time to move on. And 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.240 that's exactly what Bryce did, It's what Deontay did, it's 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.200 what Xavier League did because we saw him right under 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.720 Deontay do also going for that ball, and that kind 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:47.280 of went into something that Deontay said, which unfortunately, just 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:49.560 due to brevity, didn't get to make it into the story. 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.119 But Deontay said, you know, you have to be very 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:55.639 careful and plays like that to know your levels because 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.280 otherwise you're getting into someone else's level and you're causing 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.119 more k. And because Deonta's stayed in his level and 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.320 Xavier stayed in his level, they didn't run into each 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.200 other and one of them was gonna make the play 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.880 depending on where that ball went. And that's something that 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.960 just comes from reps, rep after rep after rep and 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.440 practice knowing where Bryce is gonna go, knowing where Deonta's 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:20.639 gonna go, knowing where different receivers are going to go. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:25.200 And that just comes from knowing, Okay, the clock is over, 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.000 this play is over, it's time to move on to 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:30.280 the second one. And that really kind of leans on 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:33.639 Bryce's strengths as well, not being afraid to kind of 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.000 move around outside the pocket. That also gives them a 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:40.320 little bit of leeway until they know exactly how this 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:44.320 offensive line is gonna mesh because they invested a lot 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:46.919 and I think this offensive line got much better. But 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:48.800 the fact of the matter is we haven't seen this 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:52.480 starting five on the field in a game together yet, 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:55.199 and so what do they look like? 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:55.600 Now? 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.080 You've got a little bit of breathing room since you 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.560 know that you can function by moving Bryce out on boots, 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.480 moving him out even on like a neckad boot, and 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:08.600 kind of feeling comfortable moving him around outside of the 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:09.320 pocket as well. 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.159 There you go, and you mentioned having leftovers, you you 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:17.480 didn't repurpose that into something else. We use the whole 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:21.120 buffalo here at Panthers dot com. There's no wasted there's 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:21.960 no wasted stuff. 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:24.280 Good pop up in a story here in the next. 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.400 Time, I was gonna say do like I did with Derek. 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:29.199 This morning, I wrote about Derek Brown, and I was 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.040 doing a story just about Derek kind of ascending into 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.000 this role as not just one of the top players 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:36.640 at his positioned in the league, but as a real 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.080 leader here. And all this stuff kept coming up about 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.800 Derek battondown passes and how good he was at it. 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.640 I mean, and Nick Scott, who's brand new here, he's 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:47.480 like one of the things you got to remember about him. 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.720 He was going to compare him to Aaron Donald, and 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:52.680 all the old Rams guys are like, he ain't Aaron Donald, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.719 but you know, they're really careful to get that in. 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.440 And again, I don't want anybody to think I'm saying 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.640 Derek Brown is better than Aaron do Donald. That guy 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.840 is going to be a Hall of Famer. Uh. Not 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:07.439 that Derek's not in some time, but that ability kind 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:09.360 of stood out to me. I just figured out, I'll 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.520