1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ and 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Bucky here Buck. The pads have been put on, and 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: uh that means we are officially in football season. How 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: you doing, man? Man? I am great because we are 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: officially in football season. Uh. Beginning to see the highlights 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: and it looks like practice. We're seeing guys go through 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: what we normally see in training camp, and so at 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: least at the NFL level, it appears that football is 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: going to go on. And I'm really really excited about it. Yeah, 11 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, talking to people around the league in UH, 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: in personnel, executive general managers, people in the personnel departments, 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: the UH, they're very, very very optimistic that we're going 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: to get this thing rolling. We're doing great. The testing 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: has been going well. Now we get to see, okay, 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: now there's some more interaction. You start getting in some 17 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: team periods and uh, now you see some close interactions. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: So from a virus standpoint, I think we'll learn more 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: over the next week or so about how we uh, 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: how we proceed through this process. But man, it's it's 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: been on to see. Like you said, the highlights some 22 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: of these players out on the practice field and man, 23 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: you don't realize how much you've missed it. Uh. Well, 24 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: for me personally, when the Padres lose five games in 25 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: a row and then uh and then finally to see 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: some football, it was a welcome It was a welcome respite. Yeah, 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: it's been great to watch. It's been great to watch 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: them go through the protocols. There's a lot of intrigue 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: about how gays we're going to how coaches and teams 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: were going to handle all of the protocols that you 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: have to go through with COVID, but then you wanted 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: to know how much was it going to impact the 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: on field product. And look, the testing has been great, 34 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: the things that we've been able to see, and I 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: felt like hard Knock did a great job of taking 36 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: us behind the scenes to see how teams are handling, uh, 37 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: the pandemic and the testing and the things that you 38 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: have to do to keep everyone in the building safe. 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: But then also beginning to see the practices and how 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: things are being done. And surprisingly a lot of it 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: looks like it has always looked. Once you get on 42 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: the field, coaches are standing for farther away from their players. 43 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: But in terms of the on the field product, it 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: looks like football, and I worried about that part of practice. Yeah, 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: And the cool thing is think about what we used 46 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: to do as scouts. You'd be out on the field 47 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: watching all these practice You'd have your position you're responsible 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: for to evaluate. At the end of your ten days 49 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: or however long you stay at camp, you get together 50 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: as a personnel department and you really dig in and 51 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: evaluate your own roster, with each scout given a detailed 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: ranking and reports on their position that they watched. They're 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: doing the same thing that they're watching the practices right 54 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: now on at home. Because now through the iPads and everything, 55 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: as soon as the practice ends, boom, you can upload 56 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 1: the practice. So the scouts are still responsible for their 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: positions and evaluating those are just doing it from home. 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: I will give a lot of NFL teams and executives 59 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: credit for being nimble. UH. There's a lot of concern 60 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: about how evaluators would handle the new world as we 61 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: know it in terms of virtual UH workspaces, not being 62 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: able to go and kind of get in person some people, 63 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: and we've been able to kind of find ways to 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: work around it. UM and I think you know, the meetings. Uh, 65 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting watching coaches have team meetings in training camp 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: that is still virtual. The Carolina Panthers, for instance, are 67 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: using the entire stadium and they're basically are putting each 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: of their players in suites, and so when they have 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: their team meetings, the players go to the designated suites 70 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: and they log in and that's how they interact because 71 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: that's the best way to kind of keep them apart. 72 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: And so a lot of credit, there's a lot of 73 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: planning and a lot of logistical things that they've had 74 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: to work out. But training camp is different. But it 75 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: appears that we're going to be able to get the 76 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: same work out of it that we've always been able 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: to get. Yeah, it gets us excited for the start 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: of the season. I'm I've gone on records that I 79 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: think that Week one is going to be the most 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: anticipated and exciting week of football for multiple reasons we've 81 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: been without it. You know, obviously not having preseason games 82 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: UM lends into a little bit of that intrigue. Think 83 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: about this, buck, when you were with teams, how many 84 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: times when you go through, uh, the first week or 85 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: two weeks of practice and you're like, man, we have 86 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: a we're good. Man like, we have a really good team. 87 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: And then there's other years where you like, man, I 88 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: don't think we're any good. And you know what, You 89 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: go play a couple of preseason games, you do some 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: joint practice with other teams, You see them, you see us, 91 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: You go, Okay, maybe we're better than I thought, or maybe, man, 92 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: we're not quite as good. You're gonna go into Week 93 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: one you don't know anything. You don't know anything, you 94 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: don't know how you stack up because you haven't gone 95 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: against anybody. Yeah, this has a very collegiate feel to it, 96 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, because in college you don't get a chance 97 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: to see what teams are gonna be. In a lot 98 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: of the polls, the preseason rankings are just guest is 99 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: guesses and estimates on what we think teams are going 100 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: to be like, and it's not. It's two or three 101 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: weeks in they were like, yeah, that team is not 102 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: exactly what we thought they were going to be. The 103 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: National Football League is going to be like that. I 104 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: do wonder though, because of this, you know, we've always 105 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: said that Matt Rule and Cliff Kingsbury and some of 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: the guys that have spent their time in college had 107 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: a disadvantage, but this year they may be at more 108 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: of an advantage in terms of getting your teams ready 109 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: because they've always operated without the preseason games and those 110 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: things um as evaluation tools. They just get their teams 111 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: ready to play for Week one, and this is what 112 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: the National Football League would look like. Hey, we just 113 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: got to gear up and get ready for Week one. 114 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: We may have some intersquad scrimmages and some live team periods, 115 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: but it's all about getting ready for the first opponent. Yeah. 116 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't remember who they practiced against, but I do 117 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: remember the Eagles their Super Bowl year. I want to 118 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: say that was the Dolphins, but they were they were 119 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: doing joint They did some joint practices with the team 120 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: that I believe and made the postseason the year before. 121 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 1: It was a pretty good team. Um and and talking 122 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: to the Eagles during that time, like, man, I think 123 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: we might have something here because we just saw a 124 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: playoff team for a couple of days and we beat 125 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: the breaks off them. I think back to the Jacksonville 126 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: Remember Jacksonville when they were doing those prize with the 127 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: Patriots and they walked out of there saying like, well, 128 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: this is the big bad bullie on the block. We 129 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: just beat the tar out of them, uh in practice, 130 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: So it gave them confidence. We don't have that this year. Man, 131 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: it's totally different. Yeah, it is totally different. And that's 132 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: why you've talked about it on on the podcast before 133 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: the first four weeks of the season are literally going 134 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: to be like the preseason and we we we we 135 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: talked to enough executives and coaches that they talk about 136 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: your team is ever evolving. You don't really find out 137 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: the identity of your team until about the midway point. 138 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: There are things that you entered the season thinking, and 139 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: we're going to be able to run the ball, we're 140 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do these kinds of things on defense. 141 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: But until your guys actually play in live game action, 142 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: you really don't know how your team is going to 143 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: be identified and what's going to kind of be the 144 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: basis and the hallmarks of your team. This year, more 145 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: than ever, teams have to be able to kind of 146 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: shift on the fly based on how their team plays. 147 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: Very early in the season. It would be interesting to 148 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: see which teams are able to kind of quickly make 149 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: that turn and make the turn at the right moment 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to Hey, we changed too soon or we 151 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: changed too late. All Right, we're gonna get in who 152 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: uh some fun topics today, Buck. We're gonna talk about 153 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: what's going on, some of these new extensions. We've seen 154 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of new extensions. Uh. Washington has a new 155 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: president of their football team, somebody that I was around 156 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: with the Cleveland Browns who's we can talk about a 157 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: little bit, which I think was an outstanding higher for them, Uh, 158 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Micah Parsons. Some talk about him, the Penn State linebacker 159 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: who's declared. We'll touch on that one briefly. We do 160 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: want to honor a friend of the show, and Howard 161 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: mud who's the all time great offensive line coach who 162 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: unfortunately passed away this last week. So we're gonna play 163 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: a little snippet of our conversation with him this last year, 164 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: uh and talk about that a little bit. Um. But 165 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: before we get to those things, Buck, I want to 166 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: talk about some of these rookies that that are popping 167 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: um and guys that you're starting to hear some buzz 168 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: about talking to friends around the league. It's gonna be 169 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: hard to get information uh this year based because we 170 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 1: don't see the preseason games as we've been talking about, 171 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: but there are some guys that are buzzing. Well, Buck, 172 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: before we get to these rookies that are popping, Uh, 173 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question. Is an advanced 174 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: scout is somebody in the pro scouting department that's trying 175 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: to get ready for those Week one game teams. You 176 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: gotta imagine they're just on Twitter seven. Like, you know, 177 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: the Chargers open against the Bengals. So if you're doing 178 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: the advanced report for that game and you work for 179 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: the Chargers, I imagine you're following every Cincinnati Bengals media 180 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: member and trying to find any more slow video to say, oh, 181 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: this guy lined up here. Oh it looks like he's 182 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: playing there, and they're used this like they're run a 183 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: little bit outside zone or just trying to get anything 184 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: you can out of these little tiny clips you're gonna 185 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: see on Twitter. Yeah. I think this Uh this year 186 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: very early in the year, especially if you're playing against 187 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: the team with a new coaching staff. Um, you have 188 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: to go back and look at what they did at 189 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: previous stops. So, for instance, if you're taking on the 190 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: New York Giants, not only Joe Judge, but you gotta 191 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: deal with Jason Garrett. With Jason Garrett hasn't been an 192 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and with ten twelve years, so you gotta 193 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: go all the way back and look at what he 194 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: did previously when he was the play caller. UM, so 195 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: much guesswork or whatever. I think your game plans would 196 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: have to be very very generic, at least for the 197 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: first week, and you have to adapt in the middle 198 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: of the game, and that may be difficult, but yes, 199 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: your advanced scout they have to They have to scour 200 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: the internet. They have to look for anything from beat writers, 201 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: from reporters around the team, any content that the social 202 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: media team puts out from that team. You gotta dig 203 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: into it. It's it is really going to be a 204 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: scavenger her trying to find information for your team, no doubt. 205 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: All right, I want to get some rookies to you 206 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: here that I've heard some buzz about UM and you know, 207 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: if guys are just keeping an eye on as I guess, 208 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: if you're a fan of fantasy football, maybe they help 209 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: you out with some of that as well. A couple 210 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: of names on the offensive side of the ball. Wide 211 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: receivers Brian Edwards. We talked so much about Henry Ruggs 212 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: going to the Raiders, but Brian Edwards, unfortunately, was a 213 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: little nick so he wasn't able to run at the combine. 214 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: That was a little bit of the concern was kind 215 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: of his top speed. But somebody's very productive at South Carolina, 216 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: very physical, and I think he's got a very good 217 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: shot of beating out Tyrelle Williams to start for the Raiders. Hey, 218 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: I liked him a lot. I like him a lot 219 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: like having gone back because the buzz has been building 220 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: about him, and you know, Derrek Carr talked about him, 221 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: and he talked about him in glowing terms, kind of 222 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: compared him to Davante Adams, which is kind of shock 223 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: and he was talking about it. Kind of reminds me 224 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: of some of the stuff that we used to do 225 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: at Fresno State when Davante was there and Brian Adams 226 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: being a terrific round running, physical playmaker, does a great 227 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: job winning the fifty fifty balls and DJ when you 228 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: watched him in South Carolina, you will see him come 229 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: down to with these remarkable catches where he out jumps, 230 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: out muscles, overpowers the defender. He gives the Raiders someone 231 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: that can do the dirty work over the middle of 232 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: the field. And with Henry Ruggs able to take the 233 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: top off the defense and Hunter Renfro able to do 234 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: some of the little things inside as a slod receiver, 235 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for him to really carve out a 236 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: nice role for himself. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to 237 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: see how they juggle all these different pieces, because I 238 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: think Hunter Renfro, you want to make sure you keep 239 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: him in the lineup, but you also have somebody in 240 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Rugs who really fits best in the slot. So I'm 241 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: anxious to see how that all works together with them, 242 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: and Brian Edwards has been outstanding. Here's a name for you, 243 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, wide receiver from Central Florida with the Buffalo Bills, 244 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: who gives them some size. Remember after the Stefan Dick's 245 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: trade we talked about, man, I like what this receiving 246 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: group they have with John Brown and Stefon Diggs and 247 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: and Beasley, but they don't have any size. They need 248 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: to get some size. Where they went in the draft 249 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: and got some size, And so far it sounds like 250 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis has been as advertised, Yeah, it sounds like that. 251 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: And here's the thing we talked about in Buffalo, making 252 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: sure you's around uh your quarterback Josh Allen with a 253 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: basketball team with a bunch of wide receivers that have 254 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: different skills that will really compliment what he does as 255 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: a passer. And because he's not the most accurate guy, 256 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: you had to have at least one big body guy 257 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: that can expand the strike zone. Form They have speed 258 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: merchants John Brown, uh Stefandiez can get down the field. 259 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: Cole Beasley does a great job of working the underneath areas. 260 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: There's a slot receiver, but they needed a big body 261 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: presence and that's what gave Davis will give them someone 262 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: that can really expand the strike zone for Josh Allen 263 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: as he can be a little wayward sometimes with his throws. Well, 264 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: we talked about these working rookie receivers. There's two keep 265 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: an eye with the Denver Broncos. Jerry Judy and kJ 266 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: Hamler both have created some excitement here and this is 267 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a team. And no offensive line is not great, 268 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: but you've got a couple of backs there with with 269 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon coming in there to join Philip lindsay, I'm 270 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: anxious to see what this skill position group looks like. 271 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: We talked about them being I think, if not the 272 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: fastest one of the two or three fastest eleven personnel 273 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: teams in the league. With no offan at tight end 274 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: who can scoot as well. I'm anxious to see how 275 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: how quickly these rookies can get up to speed. So far, 276 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: everything i'm here and has been very positive. Yeah, I'm 277 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: sure those guys are gonna jump right in and make 278 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: it happen. And I think, um, we can't underestimate the 279 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: impact that Pat Shermer will have on this offense. You 280 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: can say what you want to say about him as 281 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: a head coach, Uh, there's nothing that you can dispute 282 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: about his ability to call the great offense, what he 283 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: was able to do with Case Keenom in Minnesota, how 284 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: he blended in Adam Feeland and Stefan digs Well. I 285 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: think he has similar guys with the exception of he 286 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: has another big buddy guy at Courtland Sutton. So now 287 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: courting to Sutton, you have j Judy who's a round runner, 288 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: you have speed and kJ Hammler, and you have no 289 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: fan who can control the middle of the field with 290 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: play action and some of the exotic designs the misdirection 291 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: pass the game that Shermour likes to use. You will 292 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: see more explosive plays from this Broncos offense. Shameless plug. 293 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: By the way, you mentioned Courtland Sutton. I just did 294 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: a recent video on the new YouTube page and I 295 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: did one on the my in my opinion, the top 296 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: eight wide receivers in the NFL and Courtland Sutton. I'm 297 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: not gonna say if he made the list. He didn't 298 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: make the list, but that was one that I struggled 299 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: with because I'm so excited about him and where he's gone, 300 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: and don't know if he's quite ready to be in 301 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: that top eight list yet, but he's He's in the 302 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: discussion and he probably will be once this year is over. 303 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: He's done a great job because looking at him at 304 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: s m U, I had my doubts and my concerns 305 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: about if he would be a guy that would physically 306 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: be able to handle um the responsibilities of being a 307 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: number one receiver, and he's really responded in outstanding fashion. 308 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Now you give him a couple of playmakers around him 309 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: that can take some of the pressure off of him, 310 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: which may create more one on one matchups. He over 311 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: a thousand yeards last year. I mean, you could see 312 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: his numbers go up. Even though they have more talent 313 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: in the passing game. He's a fantastic player. And since 314 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about pass catches and guys to watch and 315 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: you're in Denver, I'm gonna talking about Laviska Channault from 316 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Keena mccartold talked about him the other 317 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: day and he made a comparison, not as a player, 318 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: but as a physical specimen. He compared him to Andre Johnson, 319 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: and he talked about just the physicality. He said, He's 320 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: not Andre Johnson, but his physicality, his ability to muscle 321 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: and out maneuver and overpowered defenders on the edge, plus 322 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: being a terrific gal with the ball in his hands, 323 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: gives them a different dynamic, a different dimension. And it's 324 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: last year. During the draft process, people kind of cooled 325 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: on him because he's not a polished route run. He's 326 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: more playmaker than route runner. But in the right offense 327 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: where they just kind of feed him the ball and 328 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: let him go to work, he could be a very 329 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: impactful playmaker. As a first year player. He's somebody I 330 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: think he has got a chance to have a big year. 331 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: And Gardner meant, you just get the ball in his 332 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: hands and let him go, flip it to him, give 333 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: him a reverse, you can line him up in wildcat, 334 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: let him do that stuff. He did all that in college. So, um, 335 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: that's an interesting one to keep an eye on running 336 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: back position. No surprise Clyde Edwards Hilaire walked into the 337 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: starting job. I mean he's he's starting from day one, 338 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: and they have so much speed. It's just he's gonna 339 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: catch a zillion balls because there's just so much Speed's 340 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: gonna push everybody out. Uh, and you're gonna have easy 341 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: completions for mahomes and he's not afraid to take those. 342 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: So it's no surprise to see Clyde Edwards Hilayer creating 343 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: a lot of buzz. It was if you're gonna design 344 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: a back to play in that system, it was him. 345 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: Now it's him and and I kind of kick myself 346 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: for not having a vision. But when you hear bread 347 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: Veach and and to read talking about Brian Westbrook, I 348 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: had to aham on me, like, ah man, you know 349 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: what why could not envision that, because that's exactly how 350 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: they can utilize him. Anyone who can remember Brian Westbrook 351 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: coming out of Villanova tore it up at the Senior 352 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: Bowl as a returner, cats the ball out the backfield. 353 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: Was kind of a third down guy that got his 354 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: opportunity and was a dominant playmaker for the Eagles for 355 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: about a three or four year run. Had a couple 356 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: of Pro Bowl berths. Was a fantastic player, being able 357 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: to really run it and catch it out the backfield. 358 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Edwars A Lark is very similar in terms of his 359 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: ability to catch the ball out the backfield. May not 360 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: have a plus topping speed, but he's fast enough to 361 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: create some problems. And with all the weapons on the 362 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: perimeter Sammy Watkins, Tyreek Hiell, Miko Hardman, Travis Kelsey, he 363 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,479 Speaker 1: is going to face light boxes and you cannot underestimate 364 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: the impact that he will make. In the screen game, 365 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is one of the best screen play designers 366 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: in football, and he will call them on any down. 367 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: The screen game is a huge part of what Kansas 368 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: does to create explosive plays on offense. All right, let's 369 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: switch over the defense. I'm gonna give you a name here, 370 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: defensive Rookie of the Year candidate, and it's a player 371 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: with a ton of production coming out of the Big Ten. 372 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: And ain't Chase Young and Antoine Winfield write that one down. 373 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield is going to get his hands on a 374 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: lot of footballs. Why because he always gets his hands 375 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: on a lot of footballs. Why because his dad did 376 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: nothing but get his hands on a bunch of footballs. 377 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: Some guys have instincts and ball skills, others don't. This 378 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: kid is dripping with it, and they ended up getting him, 379 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: I think in the forties, right in the late forties 380 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: to Tampa. Now, this offense with Tom Brady, I think, 381 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: is gonna have a chance with with Bruce arians to 382 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: to really run up some points. And once they do, 383 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna put teams in Chase and Todd Bowles can 384 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: can dial it up with pressure. They've got a pass rush, 385 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: and he's got all the ball skills in the world. 386 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: And everything I've been told is he walked in there 387 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: as you'd expect, like a season veteran, like an old 388 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: pro somebody who grew up in the game. It's not 389 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: big for him at all. And those instincts that have 390 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: already shown up. So uh, to me, I think he's 391 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: he's he's a legit defense rookie Defensive Player of the 392 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: Year of candidate. I agree with you, and I agree 393 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: with you because he steps into the right situation. A 394 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: lot of times you and I have talked about the 395 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: environment really matters, and he steps into an environment. From 396 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint, Kevin Ross is the Kevin Ross, longtime 397 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: UH player, longtime Pro bowler. Uh, he's there ty Bowls, 398 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, another guy who has spent time in 399 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 1: a dB room, not only as a top end player, 400 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: but as one of the best dB coaches. That You're fine, 401 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: So he's gonna get a one teaching And then when 402 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: your dad is played in the league a long time, 403 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: some of those jeens, some of that legacy impacts you. 404 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: Antoine Wainfields in Winfield was in a great spot to 405 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: step right in and make plays right away from day one. 406 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: And I'll add a lot of bonus here in that. 407 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: I think the Chargers have a chance to have the 408 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: best linebacking core in the National Football League. And people 409 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: are gonna scoff at that because people don't know these guys. 410 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: But with with Kenneth Murray coming in with all of 411 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: his speed and athleticism. We've seen other rookie linebackers over 412 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: the last few years step in, thinking Devin Bush, the 413 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: impact some of these guys have had, immediately, you're gonna 414 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: see that with Kenneth Murray with his speed and just physicality. 415 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: Drew Tranquil, I haven't I feel like I've been talking 416 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: about Drew Trinkle this whole offseason. Buck. He is really 417 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: good man. When you look at when he got on 418 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: the field last year for the Chargers, they were out 419 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: of it. The team wasn't good. Uh the season got 420 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: away from him, but he played really well. Uh So 421 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: you plug him in there with Kenneth Murray. But then 422 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: if you're in a lot of nickel because you have 423 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: Chris Harris in there, who can kind of come down 424 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: there and do some of the dirty work if you need, 425 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: you've got you want to play a run heavy team 426 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: and wants to go with two tights. You put Denzel 427 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: Perriman in there, who's a banger, has always been a 428 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: really good banger, Like I's got a chance to be 429 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: a really really good linebacking group. No, they do have 430 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: an opportunity that defense should be like Joey Bosa, who 431 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: just got a hefty contract last week. Uh, he teams 432 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: up with Melvin Gordon. You have Derwyn James in the middle. 433 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: You talked about the linebacker corps like their their dbs 434 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: because then when you have Chris Harris and Casey Hayward, 435 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: desmid Keene has outstanding instincts. There's just a lot of 436 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: playmakers and the way that they want to play in 437 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: this Gus Bradley defense with their eyes on the ball, 438 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: creating pressure, more turnovers, and if they get more turnovers 439 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: with the way they they want to play in terms 440 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: of being able to run the ball, selective shots in 441 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: the passing game, they're gonna be a handful because they're 442 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: a very very physical team. Another team you talked about 443 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: young players having a chance to have an impact. The 444 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: buzz building out of Atlanta on a j T rail 445 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: playing cornerback. Um. Look, he was one of the more 446 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: polarizing prospects in terms of where he was drafted, was 447 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: he worthy of being there? But when you when you 448 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: hear the bus coming out of Atlanta, they've just talked 449 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: about his ability to upgrade the secondary that the plays 450 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: that he's already made getting his hands on the ball. 451 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: I liked his ability to really do a bunch of 452 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: different things, potentially as a nickelback, because I felt like 453 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: he was tough enough to tackle, he could cover. Um, 454 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: he is a guy that can make an impact on 455 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: the team that should be much better on defense with 456 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: Raheem taking over. Yeah, Rahim once he once he took over, 457 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: we saw the numbers immediately changed. Anymore he makes, he 458 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: makes a difference. So, uh, No, I like that one. 459 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: How about anybody else, any other rookies you can think of? 460 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: You hear anything about? No? I mean I think everyone 461 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: has has talked about, like Chase Young and what Washington 462 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: wants to do upfront. Um, today we're just getting to 463 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: pass on. And so as my dad would say, like 464 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: today we separate the goat from the sheet, we'll see 465 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: who's real and who's not. So we will we will 466 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: see which guys as we begin to get the pads 467 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: on and start really having some live contact periods, that's 468 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: when we'll be able to kind of understand which guys 469 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: will be able to really make immediate contributions right away. 470 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: All Right, we've seen we've seen some contract extensions done here. 471 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: Uh we saw with the two tight ends. Since we 472 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: last talked with Kittle on Keltsey getting done, I know 473 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: you and Lance touched on that. Um. Then you also 474 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: have this big deal here for Kenny Clark, one of 475 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: those players who I don't think people understand how good 476 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: he is. When you talk to offensive line coaches around 477 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: the league, they'll rape about him. And that's the reason 478 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: he got four years, seventy million bucks. Again, those inside 479 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: guys that can create havoc inside man is a lot. 480 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: There is a need for those guys and you do 481 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: not let them ever walk out of the building. You know, DJ, 482 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: he's flown under the radar. People don't really talk about him, 483 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: but you know, next to Chris Jones and and Donald 484 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: he has been one of the more productive interior pass 485 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: rushers the last two years. Six sacks in each of 486 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: the last two seasons, sixteen and a half sacks heading 487 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: into this year. And look, we we've had more and 488 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: more people talk if I'm building a defense, I need 489 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: to pass rushers. It used to be two outside guys, 490 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: but now it's an inside rushier and an outside Russia. 491 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: The inside russia is important because you need to get 492 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: into the quarterback's face right away. You gotta get him 493 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: off his spot when it comes to throwing the quick game, big, 494 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: big playmaker for the Green Bay Packers, and the way 495 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: that Mike Patton likes to attack Um using a variety 496 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: of blitz is he creates one on one opportunities for 497 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: Clark on the inside. He's been able to cash in 498 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: those opportunities and make him into Sacks a really really 499 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: good football player and has in the bill are resident Packer. 500 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: Uh not even Homer. I don't even think Homer does 501 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: it justice Um the obsessed like stalker. He's like a 502 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: stalker of the Packers everything Packers mentioning that he's only 503 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: twenty four years old, so a lot of good football 504 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: left for him. I want to under your thoughts on 505 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. We hear a lot of buzz about defense 506 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: there with Mike Nolan and how they're using guys. Sounds 507 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: like Lawrence and Alden Smith had been standing up a 508 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: little bit. I don't think people really remember too when 509 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: Aldon Smith was in his right mind and was healthy. 510 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: I think it was under Mike Nolan right in San Francisco. 511 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: Just how good he was man the gym Toim Zula 512 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: is a defensive line coach there and under Jim tom Zula, 513 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: uh the first two or three season, I want to 514 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: say Alton Smith had thirty first two season, he had 515 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: thirty three and a half sacks. Dominant player. The combination 516 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: between he and Justine Smith was unstoppable. The way they 517 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: would run those two main games on one side, picking 518 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: up and under all of those t stunts. They did well. 519 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: Last time we saw him playing in twenty he didn't 520 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: have the same pop, didn't have the same juice off 521 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: the ball. He had become more of a power player. 522 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: He has gotten right, he's gotten physically, and everybody that 523 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: you talked to down in Dallas has talked about early 524 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: in camp he has really dominated off the edge. And 525 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: what I see from the Dallas Cowboys defensively is when 526 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: you go and sign Everson Griffin, who I don't know 527 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: how he was on the market for that long, what 528 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: they now have as a defense that can play multiple 529 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 1: with multiple players, meaning Mike Nolan is a three four guy. 530 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was with you. Was he 531 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: with you in Baltimore? So in Baltimore he wanted to 532 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: run a three or four. He run a three four defense. 533 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: That's kind of what he's known for in Dallas. He's 534 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: committed to run a four three, but as we know, 535 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: you can run a four three with three or four principles, 536 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: depending on what you do with that other edge rusher. Well, 537 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: before they signed Everything Griffin, the vision was all the 538 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: Smith would be that stand up guy to play opposite 539 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence. They have some pass rushers. Well, now 540 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: when you get Everything Griffin, who DJ Everson Griffin is 541 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: basically the in and out menu. He doesn't do a lot. 542 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: He's an upfield rusher and a spam compliment, but he 543 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: is dominant. He's a hard working player off the edge. 544 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: When now you can have him play outside the Marcus 545 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Lawrence play outside, all the Smith can kick inside. You 546 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: can do some five man fronts with one of those 547 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: two of those guys standing up, one guy playing inside. 548 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: They can do a bunch of different things. And when 549 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: you mix in Laden vander Esh and Jalen Smith, they 550 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: can be very problematic with an a progressive rush scheme 551 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: to come after you. And Mike McCarthy says something I 552 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: think everyone has to understand. He talked about when you 553 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: explosive on offense, you invest heavily in the pass rush 554 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 1: because if we can jump out on you and get 555 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: a lead, we take away your ability to run the ball, 556 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: and now pass rushers can pin their ears back. The 557 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys would be a much more aggressive offense early 558 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: in games so they can rush the passer and then 559 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: in the second half that's when you will see Zeke 560 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: Elliott run the ball, run it out. That's how the 561 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: Cowboys and play and that's been the formula for them 562 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: to win in fourteen, sixteen and eighteen when they were 563 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: able to win the division. Yeah, they're gonna have to 564 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: win pressure upfront because there's still some unknowns in the secondary. 565 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: I like Shdobe a woozy. I think he's a He's 566 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: a really good player. You bring over ha ha. Clinton 567 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: Dicks is a veteran. But you've got the two rookies 568 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: Drafon Diggs and uh and Reggie Robinson. They've got to 569 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: get They've got to get comfortable and get up a 570 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: speed because the rest of this team is ready to go. 571 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: You look at this depth chart, um saved the secondary. 572 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: You want to put the front the linebackers, offensive line, 573 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: running backs, receivers, quarterback I mean it's it is a loaded, 574 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: loaded group and I think another name, Uh, just speaking 575 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: on the Cowboys, Blake Jarwin, I don't know how many 576 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: people really give him his due. Is kind of one 577 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: of the better young tight ends. He's a good football player. 578 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: They like him a lot, and it sounds like McCarthy 579 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: is is like what he's seen from him. He's gonna 580 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: use the tight end. Yeah, he's gonna use the tight end. 581 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: I would expect now that the Cowboys gonna be a 582 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: heavy eleven personnel team and so Blake Jarwin being able 583 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: to come in the middle of the field. But the 584 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: other guy is is really getting a lot of attention 585 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: ceedee lamb. I mean, no surprise. Um, he thought he 586 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: was one of the better players in the draft. Um 587 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: he is made some remarkable catches in camp, and now 588 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: they're they're just trying to figure out from an offensive standpoint, 589 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: how are you going to feed all the mouths that 590 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: need the ball. They all need to be fed. They're 591 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: all are hungry. Marie Cooper, Michael Gallup, Um, both of 592 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: those guys had a thousand yards. Their speculation that they 593 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: could have three thousand yard receivers. Zekiel Elliott has had 594 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: hundred plus yards in three or four seasons. I mean, 595 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: there are a lot of weapons in dak Prescott is 596 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: one of only two quarterbacks in NFL history with forty 597 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: plus wins and fifteen thousand yards and four years. The 598 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: only other guy Dan Marino. And so this offense, this 599 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: front seven, they're good enough. But the big question to 600 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: me is what you talked about. Can their cornerbacks hold up. 601 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: They have to be able to pick off some passes 602 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: because the lack of takeaways has been an achilles heel 603 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: for this Dalla Cowboys defense. Yeah, we'll see how that 604 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: all comes together, but it does sound promise. I think 605 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: that defense should be pretty darn good. Um, I want 606 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: to get to college player we talked about at the top. 607 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to him in just a second of 608 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons. But before we do that, I wanted to 609 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: bring up one thing, kind of go back to a 610 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: conversation we previously had talking about, um, the expansion of 611 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: the practice squad going to sixteen, and we've talked about, 612 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: we've shared the ideas back and forth of okay, treating 613 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: it like a minor league system where you have some 614 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: triple A guys, some Double A guys and some rookie 615 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: level players. That was kind of our our you know, 616 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: us kind of spitballing back and forth. So I talked 617 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: to a general manager, presented him with that idea, and 618 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: it was interesting because he said, you know, what we've 619 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: done is we've already decided which positions we're going to 620 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: use for the sixteen spots. So we know we're going 621 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: to have, you know whatever, three offensive lineman, four offensive lineman, 622 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: whatever that number is, two corners, whatever. But they're they're 623 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: kind of making the shell of we need to have, uh, 624 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: these these pieces in place. And he said, you know, 625 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: in a normal year, yeah, I would love to have 626 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: some of those developmental guys. But he said with COVID 627 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: and not knowing what's going to happen week to week, 628 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: he said, this really is our you know, it's basically 629 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: a Triple A team. It's the best guys they have. 630 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: They are going to be available to step in and 631 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: play in a game because they could get you could 632 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: find out you lose three offensive lineman on a Friday 633 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: and I have to turn around to play on a Sunday. 634 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: So you've got to have some guys ready to step 635 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: onto the field and be able to help you win 636 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: football games. So I think we're well intended thinking about 637 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: long term, but I think under the stress of this 638 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: pandemic they have to treat it a little bit differently. 639 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: So my idea then is let's as as a national 640 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: football because we're going to lose some form of college football. 641 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: We've seen it with a bunch of conferences, you know, 642 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: the two big ones in the Power five, of the 643 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: Pack twelve and the Big Ten not playing a fall season. 644 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in the spring, but all these 645 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: one Double a's that are not playing, um, the development 646 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: is going to be There's a gap, is what I'm 647 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: getting to. So I know they've talked about just kind 648 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: of one year only with the sixteen guys on the 649 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: practice squad. I hope they make that permanent and this 650 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: year it can be the Triple A team and then 651 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: maybe next year as we've got to handle on the 652 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: virus and hopefully we have a vaccine that can truly 653 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: be a place where we can see some development for 654 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: some of these young players, as well as another league 655 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: like the XFL, as we've talked about. But there's a 656 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: gap there that needs to be filled, and I hope 657 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: the NFL will do it. Yeah, Like, I think it's 658 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: interesting what um your conversation brought out. Um, even with that, 659 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: when you talked about the positions, I do wonder if 660 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: we go through it and we think about the sixteen positions, 661 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: Like you talked about three or four offensive lineman, a 662 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: handful of corners. I would think there would be a 663 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: couple of linebackers there, maybe one inside, one outside UM 664 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: running back, a couple of wide receivers, quarterback that we've 665 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: already talked about, probably a veteran quarterback UM that is 666 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: able to kind of come off the bench and be 667 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: able to play. And then a handful of us sort 668 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: sort of guys that can come in and just maybe 669 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: do some multi positional cross train stuff. That would be interesting. 670 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: But I still believe, like even we talk about the 671 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: lack of developmental players on the squad, it does have 672 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: to be like my minor leagues. Uh, coming off a 673 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: night in which I watched Moneyball all over again, UM, Yeah, 674 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: you gotta you have to get it. You have to 675 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: have some guys that that can play, and you have 676 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: to be able to really um trust those guys, and 677 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: you have to get those guys reps. Uh. Some years 678 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: we've seen where the practice squad guys don't get many 679 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: reps in in in the real team practice part of it. 680 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: I think you have to get those guys enough reps 681 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: because on a Saturday, they may be pressed into duty 682 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 1: on Sunday without having a lot of time because of 683 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: COVID or an outbreak or anything crazy. And so this 684 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: year more than any other year, if you're management, you 685 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: have to be on your coaches to make sure that 686 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: the young guys, the developmental squad that they're getting work 687 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: before practice, after practice, and during practice with the regular 688 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: defense and the regular offense. Yeah. I mean that's it's 689 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: a challenge. You gotta keep a lot of guys ready 690 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: to go. I gotta be ready to play to be 691 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: able to get out there in a minute's notice. Uh. 692 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: One thing here on the college front, we talked about it. 693 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons are buddy. Bruce Felbon just wrote another article 694 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: about him, so we encourage you to go check that out. 695 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: It's it's on the athletic but Bruce talking to some 696 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: opposing defensive coordinators and position coaches about him, and he 697 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: is a special player man. He is a special, special player. 698 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: And and as we get there, I'm excited kind of 699 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: getting my first look at all these players to then 700 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: get a chance, as we kind of get that that 701 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: bass layer, to really go back in and really do 702 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: some more work on these guys. And just watching three 703 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: games on Micah Parsons is talent, jumps off that jumps 704 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: off the tape, very talented player, very talented player. And 705 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: I think, um with Mica and this is what a 706 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of Scots are gonna have to do. You have 707 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: to go back to high school. Because when Michael Parson 708 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: was in high school, I think he's from Harrisbury, Pennsylvania. 709 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: Michael Parson has played with his hand down in the dirt. 710 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: He had never stood up. He was never a guy. 711 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: Now he was kind of like the freak athlete that 712 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: could do whatever you wanted to do in high school. 713 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: But the bulk of his time in high school was 714 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: as a pass rushing with his hand in the dirt. 715 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: Only Appian State has he been able to kind of 716 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: move around and kind of play some off the ball, 717 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: linebacker and some other stuff. And so when you look 718 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: at him, you have to understand where he is. Very 719 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: very early in the developmental process in terms of what 720 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: he could be very talented, fast, physical um, athletic um. 721 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: When people get around him and scouts began to dig in, 722 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: they have to make sure, uh, from a personality standpoint, 723 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: that he's ready to be a leader. Tremendous talent um 724 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: having been around him a little bit, some immaturity a 725 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: little bit, but that's what you expect when you're nineteen 726 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: twenty and those things five star five start. Yeah, So 727 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: you have to make sure that that your coaches are 728 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: able to take him where he is and continue to 729 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: elevate him because I believe he's always been able to 730 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: get away with his talent because he is so superiorly 731 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: talented to some other guys. But can you coach him 732 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: hard enough to get him to take his game from 733 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: good to great or from great to Pro Bowl All 734 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: Pro caliber very early, especially when he's only had two 735 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: seasons on the field. Yeah, it's one thing jumps out though. Man, 736 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: he can run, and we've talked about at the linebacker position, 737 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: you've gotta have guys who can really scoot now to 738 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: be able to cover these tight ends, to be able 739 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: to cover backs, and to be able to range sideline 740 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: to sideline blitz he he had. He can do all 741 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: those things. So it's just some refinement that will take 742 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: place there. But there's a lot to work with. I 743 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: want to get to what happened with with the Washington 744 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: football team here. I gotta used to saying that that's 745 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: weird w f T the Washington football team. It's like soccer, 746 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: it's likely premierly can we I was almost hoping that 747 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: we would have that like kind of that gap period, 748 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: remember when it was the artist formerly known as Prince. Yeah, 749 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: almost I need that. Yeah, just for this like a 750 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: little bit, I can transition to getting used to not 751 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: saying it. But you know, neither here nor there. Um. 752 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: But a guy that I was around, j Wright, was 753 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: running back out of Northwestern when I was with the 754 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. He was on the team there and I 755 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: didn't know him extremely well, but what a great dude 756 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: man and had an unbelievable reputation coming out Jim Naggy. 757 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: If you want to see about his background, go go 758 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: follow our buddy Jim Naget Senior Bowl and look at 759 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: his notes on him when he was coming out of Northwestern, 760 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: I believe in two thousand and four. But somebody that 761 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: is uh is only thirty eight years old right now, 762 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: and he becomes the NFL's first African American team president, 763 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: so that's a very big deal. Also is the youngest 764 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: team president in the National Football League right now. And 765 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: if you've heard him speak, when you get a chance to, 766 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: uh to watch some videos on on him, I mean 767 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: you want to talk about somebody with a presence and 768 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: somebody that is a heck of a lot smarter than 769 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: you or I mean he is sharp and uh for 770 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: all that, for all that Dan Snyder's got critis criticized 771 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: for and wrong decisions or misteps here there, I think 772 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: they knocked this one out of the park. Yeah. No, 773 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: this is really a momentous occasion for him and people 774 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,479 Speaker 1: who talk about the diversity thing. But I'll talk about 775 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: it from for a former player standpoint. Um John Alway 776 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: is a guy who has made to transition to be 777 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: an executive VP and um kind of runs the Denver Broncos. 778 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: But for Jason Right to ascend from being a player 779 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: or running back in the league that played in a 780 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: few different spots, to then make his way in the 781 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: business world and to come back over to Washington and 782 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: be the president and even though he's overseeing the business 783 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: side of it. Um. I think what it does is 784 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: DJ we've been in those meetings where we're talking about 785 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: people's background and we're talking about guys coming into the 786 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: league and their intellect and what they can do and 787 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: what they offer in the locker room. Well, I think 788 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: what Jason does is he offers a blueprint for players 789 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: who want to be more than just athletes, who want 790 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: to be more than just coaches, to think about a 791 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: different path. And so hats off to him for being 792 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 1: able to kind of carve out a niche in the world. 793 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: And we'll see what he's able to do. But it's 794 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,439 Speaker 1: a tremendous opportunity for him to blaze a new path, 795 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: not only from a diversity standpoint, but also for former 796 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: players who aspire to dream big dreams when it comes 797 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 1: to when they're playing days are done. Yeah, that's a 798 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: great story. Another great story of coming out of the 799 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: UH out of Washington's Alex Smith getting back on the 800 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: field after just a gruesome jury. It's a it's a 801 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 1: miracle that he's still has his leg, that he's still 802 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: walking and now to be out there, you know, practicing 803 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: in some capacity. Uh, is really cool to see that 804 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: was Um. I thought that was really a highlight. It's 805 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: been a long time since we've said, you know, coming 806 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: out of Washington, we've had two of the better moments 807 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: of the week. Yeah, a long time coming. And Alex Smith, 808 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: the Alex Smith think is interesting. UM. I don't know 809 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: how closely you scrutinized, screwtinize some of the videos that 810 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: have come out or whatever with him moving around and 811 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: doing those things or whatever. Like. I certainly wish him 812 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: well and I hope that he's able to make the 813 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: full recovery to really play and play at the level 814 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: that he played at UM because if he is healthy, 815 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: I think healthy enough to play and play at the 816 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: level that he departed the field, he gives run rivera 817 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: an interesting option. And as we've talked about the practice 818 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: squad and we've talked about the guy coming off the 819 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: bench in a COVID situation, Alex Smith is the perfect 820 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: player to be the veteran to si BI while these 821 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: continue to fully recover to be in a position to 822 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: be able to go play mid season or later if 823 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: they really need him. I'm really intrigued by what he 824 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: can bring and look, they were gonna have to pay 825 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: him anyway. Sixteen point five million dollars is the cap hit. 826 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: But if he's able to offer anything as a player, man, 827 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: it's another feather in the cap of the Washington football team. 828 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: I just don't know, man, I put myself in Ron 829 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 1: Rivera's situation there, and he's look, he's not anywhere close 830 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: to being able to play in a contact environment, just 831 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: from the little video that I've seen you not not 832 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: not not close. But I would have a hard time 833 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: if I'm putting myself in Ron Rivera's shoes, to say, Man, 834 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: if I put him out on the field, you imagine 835 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: like I just I would be. I'd be so nervous. 836 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 1: You know, it's so admirable, and so I respect him 837 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: immensely for being able to to get to where he's 838 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 1: gotten right now, I don't know that i'd have the 839 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: courage as a coach to put him back in harm's 840 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: way after seeing what happened to his leg. If you 841 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: seen those pictures, man, it's you'll never unsee him. I 842 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: just I don't know if I could do it. I 843 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: don't know if I could have that on my conscious 844 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: that I'm putting you in harm's way anymore after seeing 845 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: what you've been through. But then what do we do 846 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: with it? We have to hold him on the squad 847 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: like he's paid, his money is guaranteed for this year. Um, 848 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: Like he can help Haskins, he can, he can certainly, 849 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: he can certainly help Haskins. He can be there, Like 850 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 1: we've seen the guys that he was able to mentor. 851 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick played well with Alex Smith in his ear. 852 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes obviously soaked up all the knowledge and became 853 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: an m v P the as a first year starter 854 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: after Alex Smith really um opened up his arms and 855 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: shared a lot of information. And so he is definitely 856 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: a welcome mentor. And maybe just maybe, like maybe from 857 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: a ceremonious standpoint, they let him take a knee at 858 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: the end of a victory. They give him an opportunity 859 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: to kind of bring it full circle. But I was 860 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: say this one of the more resilient people that I've 861 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: ever seen in the National Football League to make it 862 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: back from where he was injured on the field November eighteen, 863 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: to come all the way back when many of us 864 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: didn't give him a chance of being back. Hass off 865 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: to him hass off to his family for enduring and 866 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,720 Speaker 1: overcoming the challenges that were presented with the injury. Yeah, 867 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's quite an accomplishment there. I don't know. 868 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: I guess we can talk about this. I I gave 869 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,959 Speaker 1: you a buzz when I was driving drove my daughter 870 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: to college and Uh, I was driving. I want to 871 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: say it was Silver City, New Mexico, is when I 872 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: gave Buck a call um just to see if he 873 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: remembered UH cruising through there at Western New Mexico University, 874 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: I believe is the name of it. For a linebacker 875 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: back in the day, we had to go through there 876 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,879 Speaker 1: and scout. Not a big fan of the area. I'm 877 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. I I there's lots of 878 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 1: areas of the country that I enjoy. That was not 879 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah. That was interesting and it was 880 00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: interesting that you were doing the drive and it brought 881 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: back some some memories. I can't say all of them nightmares. Yeah. Yeah, 882 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: that's man, that's a ride. DJ Like, how long how 883 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: long did it take you to get your daughter? It 884 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,360 Speaker 1: was nineteen nineteen hour drive nineteen and a half total. 885 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: I went into it with the goal of ten hours 886 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: day one like nine and change. Day two really kind 887 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: of split it fifty fifty I got, but I got 888 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: my road dog juices flowing a little bit when I 889 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: got out there. I told you, I'm not going to 890 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: drive at night. So I got up. We got out 891 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: the door at six buck I was gonna stop in 892 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: Los Cruses. I got to Los Cruses. I looked at 893 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: my son. I had my son drive with me, so 894 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: he's thirteen, So he's sitting there and just watching movies, 895 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: hanging out. I ended up flying my daughter and my 896 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: wife out so we can meet him there, and uh, 897 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: I'm We're driving and uh we hit Los Cruises and 898 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I'm I feel great, Let's keep going. Hey, 899 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: I said, we get the El pass Let's go to 900 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: El Passo. So we get the El Passo and I'm like, 901 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: let's just get to the next town. So I couldn't remember, 902 00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: like there's gonna be something here in an hour or two. 903 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: Be fine. So I have him like doing all the 904 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: work on the phone to find the map, and I'm like, 905 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: all right, look at the Marriott properties, like what do 906 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: we got coming up? And he's like, really kind of 907 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 1: the next decent sized town is Odessa. How far is that? 908 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: It's like four hours? I'm like, oh man, I did 909 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: not know. So I ended up doing fifteen and change 910 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: on day one. Really yes, we didn't get in a 911 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: hotel till like midnight. Uh so we did a full 912 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: fifteen and then I got up the next day and 913 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, I've done all the hard work. The 914 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: four hour drive on day two was harder than the 915 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: fifteen hour because I was wearing that fifteen hour back 916 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: and neck um that I had to do for the 917 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: four hour day on day two. You remember those days, 918 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: oh man, Look, coming from l A. The longest drift 919 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: that would make would be the first one, and I 920 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: would go straight from l A to Utah. I would 921 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: go from l A to like Salt Lake City. Um, 922 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: it's about about like ten ten ten eleven, so like 923 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: somewhere there, because it's like three and a half fur 924 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: to Vegas and then you have another like six or so. 925 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,960 Speaker 1: So I was trying to get out do the Utah 926 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: schools and kind of do that loop or whatever. But 927 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: then the the secondary loop that I would do is 928 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: leave the house l A and then make my way 929 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: the way that you were going, like through Arizona to 930 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: New Mexico up to Albuquerque and then come back around. 931 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: But DJ man, man, hats off to you, like, I'm 932 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: definitely not in driving shape. And I don't know what 933 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: it was like for you when you got on the 934 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: plane and when you got back home. The plane ride 935 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: was easy. I'll tell you what. I never appreciated a 936 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: plane ride like that one in a while. But I remember, 937 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I going to college. We drove straight through 938 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 1: a thirty three hours to get from from San Diego 939 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,399 Speaker 1: to North Carolina, my brother and I, so we would 940 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: take turns um and we just drove. We drove straight 941 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: through and then I drove when I was in Louisiana 942 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: was twenty three hours and I did that one straight 943 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: a couple of times. But um, as you get older 944 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: like that those days or fifteen was a good That 945 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: was a good. That was a good long one for me. 946 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: And I was My back was so stiff. There's nothing 947 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: good about it, absolutely nothing good about it. But we 948 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 1: got there. We gotta all settle then she's good. Um um, 949 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: so man, it's weird. It's weird to have a college 950 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: age child. I can tell you that that that'll age 951 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: you real quick. Yeah, I can imagine, I can imagine 952 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: coming back. It's coming, It is coming. My little my 953 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: little guys kind of visited around schools. He's a rising senior. Uh. 954 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 1: This weekend he played in a Baseball Showcase event in 955 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: Sam Bernardino. Man, you talk about hot hot, don't you 956 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: don't know hot until you in Sam Bernardino And it 957 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: is a hundred at nine a m. And he's out 958 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: there playing blesses. That's where Jim Moore had the had 959 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: U c l A working out. Why brutal smoking? But um, yeah, 960 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: no DJ, I'm like the sands of the hour glass 961 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: and quickly dwindling through. And you talk about that drive. 962 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm like, hey, dude, let's try and keep this 963 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: within a four mile radio so I don't have to 964 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: do these long draft Hilarious. That's a nice thing about 965 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 1: my daughter going to school in Dallas is I'm like, 966 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: at least that's easy, easy flight wise, you an easy outdirect, 967 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: no issues? Um all right. Inspired by ongoing conversations with players, 968 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: the NFL launched NFL Votes to empower and improve our 969 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 1: communities through exercising the right to vote. Join the NFL 970 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: family by registering to vote today and make your voice 971 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: heard this November. Visit NFL dot com slash votes to 972 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: learn more. Um, but we had some sad news this 973 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: last week. UH with Howard Mudd, legendary coach is I 974 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 1: think believe it is a unbelievable player as well. We 975 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: talked to him about that during his visit with us 976 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: when we did our offensive line episode of our Position 977 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: Prototype series. Howard Mud. If you watch the Colts play 978 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: during Peyton Manning's tenure, there you saw him on the 979 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: sideline as the offensive line coach and just as good 980 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: as it gets. Unfortunately, was in a motorcycle accident and 981 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: UM was in the hospital for a while. Fortunately did 982 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 1: not make it. He passed away on August twelve. UM, 983 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: but I want to just run back a little snippet 984 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: of our conversation we had with him, just so if 985 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,399 Speaker 1: you if you aren't familiar with Howard Muddy, just give 986 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: you a little idea of just how smart this guy 987 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,919 Speaker 1: was talking about the game of football. If people were 988 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: listening and wondering, UH, in terms of breaking it up 989 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: percentage wise, the amount of time you would spent on 990 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,279 Speaker 1: the run game versus the amount of time you would 991 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 1: spend on the passing game. What would that look like 992 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: in today's game? I think you you spend the most 993 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: amount of time on the most difficult thing. The most 994 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: difficult is past protection. And even if it's an inordinate 995 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: amount compared to if it's disproportionate or whatever, that that 996 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: prasiology is two. If if you spend uh, let's say 997 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: that individual time, practice time, that sort of thing. If 998 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: you throw the ball six of the time, I'd spend 999 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: eighty percent of my time doing something in past protection 1000 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: when I can pass protect. I feel so good about 1001 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: where I'm at because all of the body movements that 1002 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: are that are required to react to the man and 1003 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 1: redirect myself, get myself in the right position. Don't get 1004 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,719 Speaker 1: faked out. Um, you don't know what to do with 1005 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: each little movement he makes. If he bullrushes me, I 1006 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: know how to do that. You know. I'm a maverick. 1007 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: I spin and hop and do all kinds of stuff. 1008 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: I do everything that I can to keep myself in 1009 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 1: front of that guy. Most of all of them are 1010 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:21,879 Speaker 1: athletic things. Because the football I think, I don't think 1011 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,320 Speaker 1: football is an offensive vironment isn't played with strength and power, 1012 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: is played with leverage, quickness. That's what it's played with. 1013 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: If you're strong and you're quick and agile and have balance, 1014 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 1: and you know, you got a Hall of Famer. Well 1015 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: Buck Again, I would encourage everybody if if you have 1016 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 1: the time, to go back and find that prototype series 1017 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,879 Speaker 1: and go listen to the offensive Line episode and you'll 1018 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: hear the entirety of that Howard mud interview. Um, You'll 1019 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: you'll learn quite a lot about him. Interesting man. I 1020 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 1: tried to describe him this way as somebody uh sent 1021 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: me a text about it, and I said, he's he 1022 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: was the kindest curmudgeon that I ever knew. You know, 1023 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: I worked with the with the with the Philadelphia Eagles, 1024 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: and he had this reputation as kind of a curmudgeony, 1025 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: grumpy guy. But I went down to his office and had, 1026 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 1: you know, several conversations with him about offensive line play, 1027 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,399 Speaker 1: and that was kind of a little example of it. Uh. 1028 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: They're uh, just someone that that will go down in 1029 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 1: history and I think belongs to the Hall of Famous 1030 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: an assistant coach. Look, he did did a great job, 1031 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 1: did a great job of taken a cast of characters, 1032 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that were underrated, undervalued, in the 1033 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 1: process and turn him into very very solid players. Um, 1034 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: I think of the work he did with a former 1035 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: teammate of mind, Jeff Saturday. Jeff Saturday was an undrafted 1036 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: free agent when the Baltimore was cut, was home, goes 1037 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: to Indianapolis and becomes a multiple time Pro Bowl player 1038 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: under Howard Mudd's tutelage. And so Howard Mud leaves a legacy. Uh, 1039 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: You've talked about some of the things that you learned 1040 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: just from observing him practice, the way he was short 1041 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: teach a short set for some offensive lineman and the 1042 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: way that they would finish. And so look, he leaves 1043 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 1: a legacy that we will continue to say, Ole brand 1044 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: and you're right, you talked about a guy whoga is 1045 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: worthy of God Jacket. Howard Mud is certainly worthy of 1046 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: consideration as a Joe Go jack At candidate, no doubt. 1047 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 1: So again, encourage you to go check that one out. 1048 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: You can go find I think at NFL dot com 1049 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,439 Speaker 1: slash MTS prototype. I think they still have all those 1050 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: episodes at that website, so you can go find it there. Again, 1051 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: encourage you, as we have been doing lately, to check 1052 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: out the new Hard Hard Knocks podcast hosted by our 1053 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: buddy Peter Schreeger Um. Episode two of that show, Hard 1054 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: Knocks airs Tuesday, August at ten pm Eastern on HBO. 1055 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: We've been encouraging you guys to leave us ratings and 1056 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: reviews on Apple Podcast. You guys did a great job 1057 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: of that. We appreciate it. We've also challenged you to 1058 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: go on there and let us know who the best 1059 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: high school football player you've ever seen, because we've we've 1060 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: done a bunch of interviews and had a bunch of 1061 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,239 Speaker 1: conversations and unearthed a lot of cool names through this process. 1062 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: And now that we've put it out to you guys, 1063 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 1: you guys have given us some names, uh some of 1064 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 1: them that we hadn't heard in terms of the best 1065 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: high school football player you've ever Seene to Bill, what 1066 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 1: are some of the names that have come rolling in? 1067 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 1: Uh M J D, Kevin Falk, Micah Hyde, Kyler, Murray 1068 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 1: Lamar Houston, Tavon Austin, like Vince Young, Ronald Curry, Bryn Renner, 1069 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: Dylan Mitchell. A lot a lot of names are coming in. 1070 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 1: That is a lot of names there. Who stands out 1071 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 1: to there, Buck, because I'm sitting there looking at that 1072 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: list thinking Tavon Austin. Tavon Austin's college highlights were unbelievable. 1073 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 1: I can't imagine watching him in high school, high school. 1074 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: I want to say in high school he was Gatorade 1075 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 1: Play of the Year in Maryland. He may have run 1076 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:37,759 Speaker 1: for maybe twenty six hundred yards as a tailback, like unbelievable. 1077 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: I think Lamar Houston. People haven't seen Lamar Houston, who 1078 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: was a defensive van pass first three years were thirty 1079 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,480 Speaker 1: three or forty four? I said thirty three, you know 1080 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: what because he was a running back in high school. 1081 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, So I mean, I don't know how many 1082 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 1: pass rushes you've seen that Rod. But he Sons was 1083 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: unbelievable running back in you know, like big time guys. Uh. 1084 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: I think the one? Uh? Who else? Like there was 1085 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: just mentioning on their list? Did I hear m J D? Yes? There? 1086 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 1: Ronald Curry was also an outstanding UM high school player. 1087 00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: Like this is the thing, this, this really opens up UM. 1088 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: It has to be talked about. You know, I love 1089 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 1: it gives us, it gives us. We have the resources 1090 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: with our relationship with Huddle to be able to unearth 1091 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,839 Speaker 1: some of these so that's what I'm saying. We're gonna 1092 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 1: we'll work out. That's a project Mark, And Mark doesn't 1093 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 1: know what we're signing him up for this, but whoever, 1094 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: we got to get on that and to Bill our 1095 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,320 Speaker 1: June or whatever. But it gives us a chance to 1096 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: kind of our favorite high school highlights of some of 1097 00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: these players. So that keep keep keep those names coming 1098 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 1: if you haven't already dropped a review on there on 1099 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,680 Speaker 1: Apple podcast and let us know you know what you think. 1100 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 1: Who's the best high school football player you've ever seen? 1101 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,600 Speaker 1: Mark saying, that's a job for my internal Mark. He's busy. 1102 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 1: I've got him and he's got he's busy. Is this 1103 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: is this is NFL this official NFL media business here 1104 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. Um, all right, Buck, is there 1105 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: anything else you want to add before we jump out 1106 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: of here? You no, I mean, great podcast, great weekend. 1107 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm glad to have football back. Guys have patted it up. 1108 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: Can't wait to get some clips and some inside on 1109 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: what some of these scrimmages and live live techno driwels 1110 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: look like. Some of these Thursday all Americans, Buck, They've 1111 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 1: had their day in the sun. The pads come on. 1112 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: Now we find Yeah, now we get to see who 1113 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: can really play. Yes, ye, all right, that's gonna do 1114 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: it for us. I want to thank the Bill for 1115 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: all his work putting this thing together. I appreciate you 1116 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: guys checking us out. We'll catch you next time. Right 1117 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: here on, move the sticks.