WEBVTT - Lakers/Celtics Postgame Spaces 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:17.800 M hmmm, all right, Welcome to the State of the 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:22.759 Lakers show on DASH Radio. I am pissed off right now, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:29.520 deeply annoyed, deeply disappointed, and I can only imagine Ross 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:34.280 you're feeling in a similar manner. How you doing, buddy, Yeah, 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.760 I mean, I'm kind of tired of these type of games. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.600 I guess, uh, we keep thinking that one person coming back, 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.040 and I guess Lebron was supposed to be ultimate. I 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.000 think he played well tonight. It's just something's happening in 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.400 the second half of these games. I'm just tired of 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.280 talking about a team that seems to lose the rope 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.720 every single time, just get blown out for some reason. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:03.000 But Happy Friday, Happy Friday. Everyone. We suck man. Um 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.679 we we are a shitty basketball team for lack of 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.480 a better term. Um. You know it's funny. Ross texted 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.600 me I was actually watching the game at my parents 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.920 house tonight because it was my niece's birthday. So I 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.240 was driving back and Rogers texting me like, hey, man, 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:21.840 what's the list of topics? What are we gonna go over? 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.920 And I just texted it back. I'm like everything everybody, 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.319 no one is safe, Like there's not a There's not 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.720 a person on the roster that doesn't deserve to be 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.479 burned down in some capacity tonight. There isn't that. There's 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.039 no one on the coaching staff that is safe, no 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.960 one in the front office. This has been a disaster 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.200 and it needs to be characterized as such, because the 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:48.320 truth of the matter is is it is hard to 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.680 lose basketball games with some of the talent that's on 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:56.800 this team. It's hard, and regardless of fit and regardless 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.800 of you know, some of the things on the margins 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:04.440 were criticized. If you've got Lebron James, even at capacity 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.320 or whatever the heck he was tonight, because he definitely 0:02:06.360 --> 0:02:08.560 was rusty if you could tell he's struggling to handle 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.519 the basketball even on his even on his dunk where 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:13.800 he was cutting on that THHD post up early in 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.200 the game, he didn't get nearly as high on that 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.160 as he was getting when he was dunking all over 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:23.120 Houston two weeks ago. So obviously Lebron wasn't the full 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:27.120 version of himself. That goes without saying. However, even taking 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:31.280 that as fact, Lebron just being a big forward who 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:33.720 could make plays off the dribble, who could see the floor, 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:37.600 create for others and defend on the back line, filled 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.960 so many gaps that this team needed. And you saw 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.720 that just in his first stretch there when the when 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:46.120 the Lakers look fantastic in the first quarter. But with 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:49.520 that and with Anthony Davis, we're gonna talk about and 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.200 with Russell Westbrook, who even if you don't like him, like, 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.520 that's a certain amount of talent that's on the floor. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:57.600 With Carmelo, Anthony and his ability to shoot, with th 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.880 Ht who obviously had a real a rough night tonight, 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:02.320 but a guy who is a certain amount of talent, 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.320 it is hard to look as bad as the Lakers 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:09.240 did tonight. And I think you know my theme for tonight, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:12.480 and we're going to keep circling back to this. And 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.720 I know Roj that you disagree with me, and I 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.280 think that's good because then it will help us to 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.360 get to the bottom of some of this stuff. But 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:23.360 I think this team is quit on Frank. They for 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.640 whatever reason, the things that Frank asks them to do 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.520 in the defensive scheme, they are unwilling to do, not 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:36.000 just unwilling to attempt. It's not even just like a 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:40.640 physical a physical shortcoming, right like we are not physically 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.640 capable of carrying out this task. It goes beyond that. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.040 They are not even making the attempt. They are getting 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.880 bullied on box outs where they're not even attempting to 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.880 fight for the fort for a redounding position. They are 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.760 giving absolutely no resistance at the point of attack. Not oh, 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.680 I tried to slide my feet and I just got beat. No, no, no, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.480 They're giving no attempts to stop people at the point 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.560 of attack. This team is not willing to do what 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.760 the coach is asking them to do, which to me 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:13.360 is indicative of a culture of a group that either 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.400 doesn't like their coach or doesn't want to play for 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.240 their coach, or for for whatever reason, they do not 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.240 seem intent on doing the things that he asked them 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.080 to do. And Frank has also done things on his 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.880 side of like Frank has not allowed himself to be 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.520 blameless because he does stupid things like Okay, we're gonna 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.160 play th h T with the starters and then just 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.720 bench everybody and go to a lineup centered around Rondo, 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.920 Like that's just that, that's you putting yourself in the 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:45.200 crosshairs their brother, I can't defend you when you're doing that, 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.560 okay or or okay, here comes th HT back, but 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:51.880 we're gonna bring it back with Russ. Oh and guess what, 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.240 Russ he didn't get a lot of shots with the starters, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.200 so he's going to try to control things off the 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.719 bounce and so th HD can't get his rhythm. Leads 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.919 to one of his worst games as a pro. The 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.600 point being like there every everyone deserves to get some 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:09.000 sort of criticism tonight. But to me, the foundational problem 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.120 is this group is not bought into Frank. And that 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.440 could be because Frank is trying to run a scheme 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.720 that doesn't match his personnel. It could be that Frank 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:18.760 doesn't know what he's doing offensively. I'm not sure what 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.120 it is ROJ, but these guys don't want to play 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.720 for him. That's just a fact. The Boston Celtics are 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.000 a team that has struggled with effort all season. It 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.680 has been the story. Their coaches openly criticized them for 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:36.400 their effort, and they completely outplayed the Lakers today in 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:41.240 the effort and extra effort and in intensity and ball pressure, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.919 in defensive pressure areas of the game, rebounding pressure, everything. 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:50.120 It was a completely they were out class tonight. It's depressing. Yeah, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.919 I just want to pressace that before I go into this. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.640 This was the first game where I watched and I 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.920 was like, damn, I missed the title team, you know 0:05:56.960 --> 0:05:59.120 what I mean, Like I really haven't felt that in 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.160 terms of like just personnel and the way they play. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.440 But this is the first game where I'm like, damn, 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.000 that team the father we get from that, I think 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.279 the more special will remember that team to be just 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.120 it's rare to have seasons like that, and this is 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:14.680 the first game. To me, I don't disagree with you, Like, 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.400 it's just if they quit on Frank is something that's 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.200 hard for me to quantify, you know what I mean, 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.320 because I'm still just seeing lineups that just don't make sense, 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.360 and I see Vogel trying to do these you know, 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.280 trade offs where it's defense for offense, and look, if 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.320 they quit on Frank, we have a bigger issue here, 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.600 Like that's something that needs to be solved, a lot 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.240 quicker than a lot of lineup issues, a lot quicker 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:39.360 than the Rondo stuff. It's like, I don't even know 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.120 what we're even to go with this. Like you said 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.440 that they quit on Frank, but like, again, it's just 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.240 this is Lebron's first game back after eight games. But 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.520 I'm still do you remember when DeAndre Jordan was playing 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:54.039 all those minutes and then everyone just said take DeAndre 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:56.359 Jordan out, put a D at the five and that 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.640 would solve everything. Do you remember that? And I was 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.080 I kept saying, like, that's not a plug, that's not 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.600 a button. You just pressed and it solves everything. And 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.560 our guards are just absolutely awful at the point of attack. 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:09.760 And look, that can be effort, that can be them 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:12.520 just being terrible. But there's a mix there that's really 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.920 troubling to me. Dennis Shrewder went off, and I don't 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.160 think that's an accident. I remember when John Moran had 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.840 forty Honest, I said, that's not an accident. Shay went 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:21.680 off on us. That's not act like these guards are 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.680 gonna just keep on killing us. But something is happening 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.400 in the third quarter. This is where I can kind 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.960 of agree with you. Doris Broke Tonight on the broadcast 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.280 said we were We've been outscored by eighty points in 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:35.120 the third quarter. That's extremely difficult to do. Just in like, 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.960 that's that's a hundred percent coaching. That's adjustments not being made. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.840 That's also some kind of lack of daisical effort coming 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:47.240 out of the half. Like there's some nonsense of for 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.520 lack of a better word, like nonsense of urgency when 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:50.880 they come out of the half, you know what I mean, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:52.120 Like it just feels like they come out and they 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:55.160 start walking. Boston went up seven, and to be honest, Jason, 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:56.600 I thought the game was over. I don't know about 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.800 you how you felt that. Oh, I thought the game 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:03.000 was a over. Tatum hit like an open three, and again, 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.320 like some coverages made no sense. Dwight is like in 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:07.480 a drop coverage when Jayson Tatum comes off a three, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.760 like that's Jayson Tatum. Like there's some kind of have 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:12.120 to be some personnel decisions going on. But you're right, 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.040 there was an absolute like quit in the third quarter, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.120 which is just something we talked about identity all the time. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.120 And again, I don't really like to go into those 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.040 kind of things because that's stuff that's kind of off 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.800 the basketball floor. But there was definitely some quit. There's 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:28.160 definitely some like putting your head down eighties body language, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.720 which some of it is, you know, I understand, like 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:32.960 I wanted to I texted you and I wanted to 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.120 talk about the negatives of like a d at the five. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:37.400 And again this is separate from the quitting on Vogel, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.640 but there's just stuff that, like people say, just I'll 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.680 put eight at the five, but defensively man, when we 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:44.280 have four guards around him, even when it's Lebron, there 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.440 eighties switches and it's like Malik Monk or Wayne Ellington 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.160 or Avery Bradley or and everybody got a lot of 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.800 crap tonight, and you know he wasn't great. I just 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.240 think this doesn't fit Avery Bradley's play style. Avery Bradley 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.280 is a good point of attack, funneling guard like when 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.319 you can when he could funnel players into like if 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.240 you want a player to go left, Avery Bradley is 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.360 really good at just staying on them, making them go 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.640 there and making them go into a big eight at 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.360 the five. Induces a lot of switching, unless you go zone, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:13.439 which we can talk about later, but it just induces 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.120 a ton of switching. And you have all these matchups 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.720 all over the floor. But you're right, that third quarter 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:19.920 was awful. There was some quit there was some hanging 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.400 of their heads. There was there's just something going wrong 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.760 third and I'm not really sure where to quantify it. 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.880 I don't know if it's line up. I hated the 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.280 Avery Bradley starting tonight. I said that we had to 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:31.560 start a shooter in that spot. And I thought both 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.320 th HD and Russ and Lebron all suffered from. Lebron 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:37.400 hit a lot of jumpers early that I thought masked 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.640 a lot of ugly offense. A d hit a lot 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:41.760 of midrange jumpers. Are that massed a lot early offense? 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.439 But what do you, like, do you attribute these third 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.079 quarters just to quitting on Frank? Like is there anything else? 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.920 Is there? Just there's their basketball adjustment is not being made, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.240 Like what do you attribute these? Because I think the 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.800 third quarter issues are huge. It was at one point 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.160 game I have time, and then Celtics went up seven, 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:57.559 and I thought the game was over. What are you 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:02.280 attributing these third quarters too? So fact, the title team 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.400 UM in two thousand and twenty had a really good 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.800 net rating in first quarters. I can't remember exactly what 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.120 it was off the top of my head that I 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.480 was looking at up the other day, something around like 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:14.480 seven or eight plus seven or eight points per one prosessions, 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:17.839 which is pretty decent um, you know, for for a 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:21.480 quarter of play. They were plus zero point four in 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.720 the third quarters that year, and that was an excellent 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.080 effort team that was very much bought into Frank and 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.559 everything that he was doing. So there are absolutely so 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.240 of course, I'm not going to go back and dive 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.679 into a bunch of third quarter film from so I 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:39.360 couldn't tell yet schematically off the top of my head 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.360 where things went wrong. But the bottom line is teams 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.400 were able to make adjustments and limit the effectiveness of 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.320 the Lakers in fourth quarters or in third quarters in 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.320 that season. That's a problem. That's something that points to 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:54.040 the coaching staff. You know, I tweeted something out in 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.880 the in the middle of that huge Boston run. I 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.760 said that I didn't like this team's basketball character, that 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:03.560 they at an unlikable basketball character. The things to me 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:08.760 that manifest basketball character are the things that are controllable. Okay, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.400 when you have good process. If you run a good 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.520 action and uh, you know, like a rust gets all 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:16.120 the way to the rim and he just happens to 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.000 miss a laya can't get too upset. That's a physically 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.959 aggressive play. That's what you brought him to do, did 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:24.640 all the right thing, the result just wasn't there. However, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.720 there are a lot of things that you absolutely can 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.920 control on a basketball court. Most of them are physical 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:35.000 in nature. Winning battles on the defensive glass, winning battles 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:38.240 for rebounding position, putting an extra effort as a guard 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.120 on the weak side to crash when other people are 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:45.120 boxing out. Those kinds of things are absolutely in your control. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.320 They do not depend on whether or not your shot 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.400 is falling. They do not depend on your talent level. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:55.280 Just asked Austin Reeves, Okay, doing things like sitting in 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:59.400 a freaking stance and trying to offer some resistance at 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.000 the point of its app that is something that is 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:05.120 in your control. That is not a thing that depends 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.800 on on on scheme or any anything along. That's not 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.079 a thing that depends on your shot being with you 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.520 that day. That is just a matter of giving a 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.040 ship and for whatever reason, every single one of those 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.760 checkboxes Anthony did. There was a play in the third 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.080 quarter in the middle of their run where Malik Monk 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.720 ran a pick and roll with Anthony Davis and Anthony 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:28.360 Davis instead of rolling hard to the rim just kind 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:35.320 of floating attention. I could think, is what in the 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.360 world are you doing, Like, this is a team that's 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.360 desperate for some rim pressure to get something going to 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.640 the basket, and you're and you're continuing to just do 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.120 more of the same and continuing to defer to things 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.680 that are outside of your control, like is this jump 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.920 shot going to go in? And it's just frustrating to 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.200 me because all of the high character teams in the league, 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.120 the Golden State Warriors, hell, the Boston Celtics, who are 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:03.000 not a high character team tonight displayed a lot of 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.600 those behaviors, and probably because they smell blood in the 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:08.160 water with the Lakers. But the bottom line is all 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:12.800 of the controllables the Lakers mail it in on they 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.400 mail it in so so then if all of your 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.720 jump shots aren't falling, then guess what you lose, and 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.280 you lose big. This is the thing that this is 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.120 the point that I kept getting back to when I 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.760 was saying that it's hard to lose with this much talent. 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:30.680 Boston without Jalen Brown is a middle of the pack 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.440 team at best in this league. I would argue that 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.920 there they could very well be in that bottom bottom 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.960 third without Jalen Brown. That's how limited they are. And 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:45.880 they beat the ship out of us tonight because they 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.800 applied defensive pressure that we were unwilling to apply. They 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.080 applied rim pressure that we were unwilling to apply. They 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.800 applied rebounding pressure that we were unwilling to apply. And 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.120 until that stuff gets fixed, it doesn't matter what en 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.520 Up Frank plays. It doesn't matter, you know, whether or 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:07.120 not Lebron comes back into MVP form. None of that 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:11.400 stuff matters until this team takes on championship character, a 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.880 willingness to do the things that you have to do 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:20.400 to win basketball games. It blows my mind how far 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.200 back on the burn on their stove, the Laker stove. 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.560 It's on like the back burner. They don't give a 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.000 damn about that stuff. They didn't even play a big 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.040 in the second half. They were obsessed with creating space 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.120 for us to drive, and he spent the entire third 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.040 quarter taking pull up jump shots while they played a 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.640 Lebron at center lineup. Because they continue to be because 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:43.400 they're they're trying to cater to this guy. And it's 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:45.320 not just Russ's fault. I'm not just coming on him 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.720 and the only person that you could kind of offer 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:50.400 an excuse for his Lebron because he's a little bit rusty. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:55.960 But just everybody just got completely pulverized in every physical 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.640 matchup on the floor tonight. And you're just gonna get 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.640 your ask take if you let that happen and you 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.200 did that third quarter stuff you're talking about. It's not 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.440 just on the coach. It comes down to those things 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.400 they did. They get into the locker room and they go, hey, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.480 we gotta tighten up this, we gotta tighten up that. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.600 And they come out and they tighten those things up, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.240 and the Lakers come out and continue to do the 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:20.600 same thing and get their asket, and it's frustrating. Yeah. Again, 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.000 like I always don't like to just blame defense or 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.520 losses on effort and look like that there was some 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.600 quit and all that, and we discussed the third quarter, 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.000 but there is like lineup stuff that I feel like 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:34.680 you you just have to do with this team and look, 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.360 accuacing to Russ is just what this season has become. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.760 Like I just didn't think you could start avery Bradley 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:41.920 and look in the first quarter a d Lebron hit 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.680 jumpers and that third quarter, they didn't like those jumpers 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.520 started to miss, and then they continue to cheat off Bradley. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.800 Russ still couldn't get any space you talked about. In 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.160 the fourth quarter, they went to Lebron at the five 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.400 and Russ started to finally get to the rim, finally 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.080 get to the basket, but we couldn't defend like we're playing. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.920 I think Carmelo played thirty minutes again to night. I 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.160 don't think he can play thirty minutes in terms of 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:05.760 just being a guy out there defensively, we have like 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.280 too many, too many players out there that just get 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.680 picked on relentlessly, you know what I mean. And again, 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.000 that's something where they're like, that's something they can compete 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.840 and get a little better at. And look, I didn't 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.200 like Milik Monk's rebounding tonight. I didn't like Wayne Ellington's rebounding. 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.360 And again I said, A d was super frustrated with 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:23.120 that tonight, and that kind of lead into his body language, 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.720 and I thought he kind of just stopped I wouldn't 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:28.160 say stopped trying, but stopped playing with the effort it 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:31.000 took to keep up with Boston tonight. Once that just 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:33.160 kept on happening, we just played too many players that 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:35.400 get picked on. We had a line of like Monk, 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.760 I think Monk and Mellow out there, and it was 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.600 like Jayson Tatum at like the buffet, you know what 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.440 I mean, Like he could just like Jayson Tatum can 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:46.120 literally just pick who he wants and any miss and 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.720 those Russ jumpers man just again awful decision making and 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:51.880 he's gonna have to adjust again, I guess to Lebron 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.600 being back. I think that's an excuse and a reason 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.440 in himself. But yeah, like any miss Tatum gets a 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.240 rebound and it's like a one on one against Milike Monk, 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.720 It's there one on one against Carmelo, and that's just again. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.760 Tatum is probably a bad example of this because he's 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.639 like a superstar offensive player. But still, even Marcus Smart 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.240 tonight I thought just destroyed us. Marcus Smart was like 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.520 eight for thirteen or something like that. Some of them 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:15.879 were jumpers, but a lot of them were just out rebounding, 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.600 out hustling us. We just don't have the guards for that. 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.760 And then you said that's an effort thing. That's true, 0:17:21.160 --> 0:17:23.199 but there's a reason why guys like Alex Cruso go 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:25.200 and get paid nine million dollars a year, right, because 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.159 that is a skill. It's an absolute skill to have 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.560 guards who fight like that, who defend like that. And 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.159 again bringing up Crusoe isn't really fair here, but I 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.000 think there are lineups and stuff decisions that just have 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.159 to happen. And I kept saying a D at the 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.320 five is not just some you know, pretty answer that 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.800 you pressed and everything gets solved. Like there's a ton 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.879 of issues with that. There's a ton of stuff that 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.080 teams just pick on us. Our guards get destroyed on screens, 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.800 and Russell Westbrook is part of that. Russell Westbrook does 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.199 a lot of this. He he fights really hard at 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.639 the point of attack, then he just gets absolutely destroyed 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:57.800 by a screen like he doesn't see it coming. I 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.840 don't know if we don't call it out, but and 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:01.760 we just get with a switch. Russ is on a 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.560 big eighties on a guard, no rebounding download, just a 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.480 lot of stuff. Again, like I kind of want to 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.040 move this forward a little bit onto the court as well. 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.400 Are you seeing that as well? Not figuring any I'm 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.480 just saying like this is stuff that we can't control though, 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.280 you know, like voge Bore being fired is something we're 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.639 gonna find out, like you said by woes one day, right, Like, 0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:24.640 it's just I can't get there yet. Like and again 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.120 I'm seeing Voge. I know a lot of people are there, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.439 and I don't blame them for being there. I've still 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.600 like I put myself in Vogel shoes, right, Like I 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:36.840 know I don't. I can't feel those shoes out. I'll 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:39.040 never know. As much basketball as he'll have, he'll forget. 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.159 But like, just like Vogo won a title less than 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.399 thirteen months ago with a team that absolutely fit his 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.120 philosophies and what he wants to do, and it got 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.680 all traded away, and look, we can't play you know, 0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:54.879 do hind sight thing? Because rob Oblinka was applauded in 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:56.600 the off season for the movies he made like he 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.840 was not just by Laker people, by the national media 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.520 acres were the one to seed whatever whether you thought 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.560 they were the favorite for booking Brooklyn. So for now 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.320 to go back and be like, oh, Rob Lincoln made 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:08.840 a mist like the rest of Westbrook move was was 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.119 a difference story that was a very polarizing move, but 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.600 the rest of the roster was applauded, right like in 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:15.600 a lot of ways, but you see it just on 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.439 the core. There's just a lot of stuff that I 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.880 see that just isn't playable, Like these line ups where 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.440 we trade off defense for offense is just I don't 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.600 know where they kind of go from here. Maybe Kendrick Nunn, 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.359 Austin Reaves and the reasons the answer I said, you know, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.560 THHD and those three as your prayers probably is a 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.000 misguided place to praise prayers. But like, I still think 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.040 there's stuff we can do. And maybe that's just me 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.360 being a hopeless optimists, but like I'm just seeing way 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:42.359 too much stuff like we can't play these mellow and 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.280