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Speaker 1: M hmmm, all right, Welcome to the State of the

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Speaker 1: Lakers show on DASH Radio. I am pissed off right now,

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Speaker 1: deeply annoyed, deeply disappointed, and I can only imagine Ross

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Speaker 1: you're feeling in a similar manner. How you doing, buddy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm kind of tired of these type of games.

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Speaker 1: I guess, uh, we keep thinking that one person coming back,

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Speaker 1: and I guess Lebron was supposed to be ultimate. I

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Speaker 1: think he played well tonight. It's just something's happening in

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Speaker 1: the second half of these games. I'm just tired of

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Speaker 1: talking about a team that seems to lose the rope

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Speaker 1: every single time, just get blown out for some reason.

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Speaker 1: But Happy Friday, Happy Friday. Everyone. We suck man. Um

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Speaker 1: we we are a shitty basketball team for lack of

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Speaker 1: a better term. Um. You know it's funny. Ross texted

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Speaker 1: me I was actually watching the game at my parents

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Speaker 1: was driving back and Rogers texting me like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: what's the list of topics? What are we gonna go over?

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Speaker 1: And I just texted it back. I'm like everything everybody,

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Speaker 1: no one is safe, Like there's not a There's not

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Speaker 1: a person on the roster that doesn't deserve to be

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Speaker 1: burned down in some capacity tonight. There isn't that. There's

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Speaker 1: no one on the coaching staff that is safe, no

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Speaker 1: one in the front office. This has been a disaster

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Speaker 1: and it needs to be characterized as such, because the

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Speaker 1: truth of the matter is is it is hard to

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Speaker 1: lose basketball games with some of the talent that's on

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Speaker 1: this team. It's hard, and regardless of fit and regardless

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Speaker 1: of you know, some of the things on the margins

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Speaker 1: were criticized. If you've got Lebron James, even at capacity

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Speaker 1: or whatever the heck he was tonight, because he definitely

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Speaker 1: was rusty if you could tell he's struggling to handle

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Speaker 1: the basketball even on his even on his dunk where

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Speaker 1: he was cutting on that THHD post up early in

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Speaker 1: the game, he didn't get nearly as high on that

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Speaker 1: as he was getting when he was dunking all over

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Speaker 1: Houston two weeks ago. So obviously Lebron wasn't the full

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Speaker 1: version of himself. That goes without saying. However, even taking

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Speaker 1: create for others and defend on the back line, filled

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Speaker 1: so many gaps that this team needed. And you saw

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Speaker 1: that just in his first stretch there when the when

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Speaker 1: the Lakers look fantastic in the first quarter. But with

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Speaker 1: that and with Anthony Davis, we're gonna talk about and

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Speaker 1: with Russell Westbrook, who even if you don't like him, like,

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Speaker 1: that's a certain amount of talent that's on the floor.

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Speaker 1: but a guy who is a certain amount of talent,

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Speaker 1: it is hard to look as bad as the Lakers

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Speaker 1: and we're going to keep circling back to this. And

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Speaker 1: I know Roj that you disagree with me, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's good because then it will help us to

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Speaker 1: get to the bottom of some of this stuff. But

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Speaker 1: I think this team is quit on Frank. They for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, the things that Frank asks them to do

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Speaker 1: just unwilling to attempt. It's not even just like a

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Speaker 1: capable of carrying out this task. It goes beyond that.

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Speaker 1: They are not even making the attempt. They are getting

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Speaker 1: I tried to slide my feet and I just got beat. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: They're giving no attempts to stop people at the point

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Speaker 1: is indicative of a culture of a group that either

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Speaker 1: seem intent on doing the things that he asked them

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Speaker 1: Like that's just that, that's you putting yourself in the

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bring it back with Russ. Oh and guess what,

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Speaker 1: Russ he didn't get a lot of shots with the starters,

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Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing offensively. I'm not sure what

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Speaker 1: it is ROJ, but these guys don't want to play

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Speaker 1: for him. That's just a fact. The Boston Celtics are

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Speaker 1: a team that has struggled with effort all season. It

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Speaker 1: It was a completely they were out class tonight. It's depressing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: This was the first game where I watched and I

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I really haven't felt that in

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Speaker 1: But this is the first game where I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 1: it's rare to have seasons like that, and this is

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Speaker 1: hard for me to quantify, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: because I'm still just seeing lineups that just don't make sense,

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Speaker 1: Like that's something that needs to be solved, a lot

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Speaker 1: our guards are just absolutely awful at the point of attack.

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Speaker 1: And look, that can be effort, that can be them

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Speaker 1: of agree with you. Doris Broke Tonight on the broadcast

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Speaker 1: said we were We've been outscored by eighty points in

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Speaker 1: That's also some kind of lack of daisical effort coming

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Speaker 1: I thought the game was over. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: like some coverages made no sense. Dwight is like in

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Speaker 1: to be some personnel decisions going on. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: there was an absolute like quit in the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: And again, I don't really like to go into those

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Speaker 1: the basketball floor. But there was definitely some quit. There's

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Speaker 1: definitely some like putting your head down eighties body language,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to I texted you and I wanted to

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Speaker 1: And again this is separate from the quitting on Vogel,

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Speaker 1: but there's just stuff that, like people say, just I'll

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Speaker 1: think this doesn't fit Avery Bradley's play style. Avery Bradley

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Speaker 1: a lot of ugly offense. A d hit a lot

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Speaker 1: But what do you, like, do you attribute these third

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Speaker 1: Is there? Just there's their basketball adjustment is not being made,

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Speaker 1: Like what do you attribute these? Because I think the

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Speaker 1: third quarter issues are huge. It was at one point

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Speaker 1: attributing these third quarters too? So fact, the title team

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Speaker 1: UM in two thousand and twenty had a really good

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Speaker 1: net rating in first quarters. I can't remember exactly what

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Speaker 1: of course, I'm not going to go back and dive

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Speaker 1: couldn't tell yet schematically off the top of my head

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Speaker 1: the long run. That's the idea, right, Well, here's the problem.

429
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook spent the entire third quarter going as defenders

430
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 1: went under screens, making no attempts to try to cave

431
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: someone's chest in and make something happen. He was content

432
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: to just settle for jump shots. Lebron James also content

433
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: to settle for jump shots. When he did try to

434
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: get to the rim, his handle was rusty because he

435
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 1: hasn't been playing for two and a half weeks and

436
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 1: so he wasn't able to gain any advantage there. Anthony

437
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: Davis still thinks he's Kevin Durant, so every single time

438
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: they got a matchup that they wanted with a d

439
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: in the post, there were a handful of times where

440
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: he ripped through the baseline and every time he did,

441
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 1: he either got foul or made a layup. But he

442
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: insisted on taking that same jeb step jump shot or

443
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: fadeaway jump shot that he always likes to take. And

444
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: guess what, when you do that, you were playing directly

445
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: into the hands of the switching defense and then th

446
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 1: ht who was supposed to be another option to help

447
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: attack this type of switching defense, was completely thrown out

448
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: of rhythm because you basically didn't get him a legitimate

449
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: basketball touch until late in the first half because you

450
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: played him with the starters, which he didn't get a shot,

451
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: which is fine, that happens. That's part of the thing

452
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen when you're playing with all that talent.

453
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: Ever single one of those stars will have moments like

454
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Speaker 1: that in the starting lineup. But then you immediately went

455
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Speaker 1: to the bench and brought in a rageon Rondo lined

456
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: up instead of giving th HD a chance to be

457
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Speaker 1: aggressive when guys like Lebron and Russ went to the bench.

458
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 1: So guess what, th HD has his worst game as

459
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Speaker 1: a pro. So now you're trying to attack the switching

460
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Speaker 1: defense with four guys who should just be living at

461
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Speaker 1: the rim, and no one's getting to the rim. And

462
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 1: and to be honest, it was their own damn fault.

463
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: None of them made an actual intentional effort to get

464
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Speaker 1: to the rim and when until it's too late, they

465
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Speaker 1: were there. At the end of the game, there was

466
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Speaker 1: a bunch of sequences where Russ and th HD really

467
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: put their head down and tried to force their way

468
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Speaker 1: in there, but at that point it was too late,

469
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: and at that point it was it just was. It

470
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: was super telegraphed and easy to read and react as

471
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Speaker 1: the Celtics defense, and they were able to shut all

472
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Speaker 1: of that down so and then moving to the defensive

473
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. And I think this is something

474
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Speaker 1: that you wanted to get at. When you play Anthony

475
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Speaker 1: Davis at the five, even with Lebron James at the four,

476
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of responsibility that falls on the guards

477
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: and in order for it to work. You know, when

478
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Speaker 1: you play a two big line up with Anthony Davis

479
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Speaker 1: and Dwight Howard or somebody along those lines, the what

480
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: you're asking for the other three players to do it

481
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: becomes easier because there's more rim protection. But when you

482
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Speaker 1: play a d at the five, the job for those

483
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: guys gets harder. So, like we talked about earlier, if

484
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Speaker 1: you're gonna mail in all of the like all of

485
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Speaker 1: the uh like physical intensity areas of the game, all

486
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Speaker 1: of the things that are controllable, if you're gonna mail

487
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Speaker 1: all those in and Anthony Davis is at the five,

488
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 1: it's gonna look really ugly. And that's why it just

489
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: became a layup line for for Dennis Schroder and for

490
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Speaker 1: for Marguts Smart to get to the rim. And any

491
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Speaker 1: time they offered any help, it was just an easy

492
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Speaker 1: pocket pass. Nobody on the back end to help or

493
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Speaker 1: if they did, they just committed a stupid foul and

494
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: gave up an and one. But to your point, when

495
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Speaker 1: you're gonna play Anthony Davis at the five, the job

496
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Speaker 1: for everyone else around them gets more difficult. And and

497
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Speaker 1: this is the last thing I'm gonna say about it,

498
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: because this is the part that I think everyone is

499
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: glossing over here in this whole situation. It's so easy

500
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: to be like, this is what happens when you have Mellow,

501
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 1: this is what happens when you have Ellington, this is

502
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: what happens when you have this guy or this guy

503
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: or this guy who can't defend I'm sorry, man, but

504
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 1: they had defenders out there and they still weren't doing it.

505
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: Th h T can defend. Avery Bradley was literally on

506
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: that unbelievable Laker defense from in years prior. Like Russell

507
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 1: Westbrook is every bit physically capable of doing the job,

508
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,479
Speaker 1: he just doesn't want to do it. And so if

509
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Speaker 1: you can't get the guys who are physically capable of

510
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Speaker 1: doing it to actually do it, then what are we

511
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Speaker 1: even talking about rob For what are we talking about

512
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Speaker 1: Rob Ford? Because if you trade th h T, if

513
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Speaker 1: you trade one of these guys for some defensive guard.

514
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: If they come in and they don't do the job,

515
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: it's still gonna look bad at a certain point. This

516
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: comes down to personal accountability and these guys actually being

517
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Speaker 1: willing to do the job. Yeah, it's a similar kind

518
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: of issue. Again, Like I was trying to hammer this

519
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: point the whole time when we were starting two bigs,

520
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: and look, I was totally wrong that DeAndre Jordan could

521
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: play a fact simile of JaVale McGee. He can't. But

522
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: just the archetype of that starting lineup was a point

523
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Speaker 1: of attack defensive guard playing a drop coverage where a

524
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: D can be the romer, right, a D can stay

525
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: on the corner shooter whoever that guy is, and that

526
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: he can roam and play that kind of role. When

527
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Speaker 1: you put a D at the five, your guards have

528
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Speaker 1: to be able to either stay with the roleman box

529
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Speaker 1: him out unless Lebron comes down and gets the rebound.

530
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Speaker 1: But that's the that's the whole issue that I'm seeing here,

531
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Speaker 1: is that a D s out top And I don't

532
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Speaker 1: know this is a guard issue. If this is a

533
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Speaker 1: personnel issue, it's hard for me to decide because, like

534
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Speaker 1: you said, the guards aren't doing the things that Vogel

535
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Speaker 1: is telling them to do. But that's been my whole

536
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: issue this whole time. Look offensively, a D at the

537
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: five should be the best lineup. It opens things for us.

538
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Speaker 1: But defensively, man, we just played too many guys that

539
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: just can't play the role that they need to. Carmelo

540
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: Download like he's a fine rebounder, he just doesn't fight

541
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Speaker 1: in the way I think you need to defensively, but

542
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: you're right, these all they do is do one screen.

543
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: I thought Dennis Shrewder was way too comfortable tonight. He

544
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: felt like he wasn't even seeing a defender out there.

545
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: But when they have when they have a screen that

546
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: comes up eight over eighties an over helper just by

547
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: his nature, Like that's just the way he plays. He

548
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: likes to kind of overhelp. But they do do a

549
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: lot of switching, and you leave it with these guards

550
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: down low trying to face you know, whoever the big

551
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: man is, Al Horford, Jayson Tatum, got a lot of them.

552
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: Marcus Smart dominated us. Like those are the issues I see,

553
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: And again, like I don't know, like the main solution

554
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: for this, uh, maybe it is when a reason comes back,

555
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: like that might be the perfect like three men, but

556
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: again he's like thirty six. Like it's tough for me

557
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: to put all our prayers um into that as a

558
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: new starter. But like that's that's the kind of conundrum

559
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing Vogel play as well, and we can

560
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: kind of move to like the zone that they're playing,

561
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: which I know, must kill, must kill fring volgo to

562
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: play a zone the type of defensive coach he is,

563
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: that's been our best option because it kind of simplifies

564
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: the roles. The guards know what they do. But I

565
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: just think NBA teams are too good to play a

566
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: zone for as long as you know you would have

567
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: to for it to be effective as your main option.

568
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, like that's where I'm seeing here with the

569
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: A D at the five stuff. Everyone said it would

570
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: be the solution, and it is probably our best lineup

571
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: in totality, but there's just a lot of problems with

572
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: it when you don't have guards that can stick on

573
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: stick on players at the point of attack, give any

574
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: kind of back pressure. Maybe you know, I don't think

575
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna go back to the two bigs. I don't

576
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: think DeAndre Jordan's gonna play again, But you gotta find

577
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: some guards that can at least fight, and maybe just

578
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: having Malik Monk or Wayne Ellington. I thought Wayne Ellington

579
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: like looks fine defensively, again, he's not a good rebounder

580
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: in that sense, but like you know what I mean,

581
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: They're like, I just don't know what the solution is

582
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: to this, Like a D of the five is probably

583
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: the line of we're gonna go to. It's the conundrum, right,

584
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: because you have to open things for us and you

585
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: have to play scores next to him, but like the

586
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: scores can't defend. And then like in the second half,

587
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: we're trading offense for defense, but we scored forty one

588
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: second forty one points in the second half with like

589
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: three minutes left, So it's like a trade off where

590
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: we're losing on both ends, you know what I mean.

591
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: So like I don't know where to really go with that.

592
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just lineup stuff. All I

593
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: know is like I don't think you can play two

594
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: to three bad defenders at the same time. You're right,

595
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to see PhD get his own lineups. I

596
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: thought we really put a lot of stuff in his way.

597
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: I got again, like the teams don't play him as

598
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: a shooter, and like he was. He was bad tonight,

599
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: a lot of really bad decisions. But I'd like to

600
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: see him get his own line up. But yeah, like

601
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: where do you think the solution would go here? Because

602
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: I really don't have one. I guess like, if you're

603
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna defend this way, you're not gonna beat a lot

604
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 1: of teams. Like that's just that's just the way it's

605
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: going to go. It's true. And it becomes like a

606
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: it becomes like a cascading effect, which is something I

607
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: talked about a lot on the show, the idea that, like,

608
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, any one factor might not be enough to

609
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: submarine your team, but when all of them kind of

610
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: come together and confluence, it'll it'll it'll destroy you. Like

611
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: for instance, like like the when the Lakers it confronted

612
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: the stagnation that Boston tried to inflict on them with

613
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: the switching by settling for jump shots. It led to

614
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: these kind of like semi transition runouts where all of

615
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, Marcus Martin, Dennis Shrewder have a head of

616
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: steam and your defense isn't set, you know what I mean,

617
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: And it becomes one of those things where all of

618
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, they just scored again, and now you're even

619
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: more discouraged, and they are completely set in their half

620
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: court defense and they're switching everything, and they just uh

621
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: put you in another situation where Anthony Davis is posting

622
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: up and guess what, He's gonna take another jump shot,

623
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like it turns into

624
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: this snowball effect and it's and you're right, like you

625
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: can go to a zone for and it actually did

626
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: work for a couple of possessions tonight. Like if you

627
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: go to a zone just to to to disrupt somebody's rhythm,

628
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: that's one thing you might be able to cause you

629
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Speaker 1: you might be able to cause a really good basketball

630
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: player to be confused for a few possessions. But you

631
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: can't lean on that full time. And you know, I

632
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the show that no one

633
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: was blameless at the beginning of the show. At the

634
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: beginning of the game, Anthony Davis and Lebron were way

635
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: more active on the back end than they were in

636
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: the second half. There were actually two there were two

637
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: plays in the first half where where Tatum ended up

638
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: beating somebody to the basket. I can't remember who it was,

639
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: but where Lebron was able to cause him to miss layups.

640
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: But with it with his uh verticality around the rim,

641
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: and I remember sitting and thinking in the moment, like,

642
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: this is what we've been waiting for. This is what

643
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: we've been missing, instead of it being four guards in

644
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: a D or three guards and mellow in a D.

645
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: This is what it looks like when you have a

646
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: real power forward that can rotate on the back end

647
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: and disrupt stuff around the basket. But guess what. Both

648
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Lebron and Anthony Davis, and I'm sure they were discouraged

649
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: on account of the fact that every time they missed

650
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: a jump shot before they could even get in a

651
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: defensive stance on the other end of the floor, here

652
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: comes Dennis Shrewder down the lane on a straight line

653
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: drive with absolutely no resistance, and they have no momentum

654
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: or willingness to to get in the way. I get

655
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: why they would be frustrated, but you have to find

656
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: a way to reverse the snowball. And the only way

657
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: to reverse the snowball is like, hey, maybe, Anthony Davis,

658
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: when you get that post up and you're down by nine,

659
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: in the middle of the third d you ripped through

660
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: and you get to the damn rim because if you score,

661
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: then you can set up your defense. If you set

662
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 1: up your defense, maybe the guys can do a slightly

663
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: better job at the point of attack. If they do

664
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: a slightly better job at the point of attack, maybe

665
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Lebron and Nad will have a better opportunity to clean

666
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 1: things up on the back end. And then maybe if

667
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: you get a stop, you can score on the other

668
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: end in transition, which is the foundation of your offense

669
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: and what you wanted your identity to be at the

670
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,479
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, like the only that that's what

671
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: what is so frustrating about this is as the Wheels

672
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: go off with this team, it just continues to magnify

673
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: their own problems and it becomes an issue where it's

674
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: like now Russ, who has a tendency throughout his career

675
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: to every time the team is in trouble to take

676
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: a couple of bad jump shots. He shot a jump

677
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: shot of three consecutive possessions there in the middle of

678
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: the third quarter when the Wheels were coming off, like

679
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: it just it's it's it's there was this team just

680
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: desperately needs to have some good habits that they can

681
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: start to rely on when things go bad, Because, as

682
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 1: I've always said, your habits, your identity, is what you

683
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: fall back on and what you rely on when things

684
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: get bad. And so if you are a bad basketball

685
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: team with bad habits, then when things start to go bad,

686
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: you're going to continue to do bad things and it

687
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: will compound the problem. If you establish yourself as a

688
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: team with good habits, meaning Anthony Davis, a rim pressuring big,

689
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: not a first like a perimeter versatility big. If you

690
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: establish yourself as Russ as a guy who does not

691
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: take jump shots but just puts his head down and

692
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: goes to the rim, and that becomes your habit. If

693
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: you establish yourself as Russ, as someone who tries to

694
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: give resistance at the point of attack. If you establish

695
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: yourself as lebron in a d as guys that want

696
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: to make first team all defense and be a front

697
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: court that smothers everything. If you turn that into your habits,

698
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: then when things get bad, that's what you will fall

699
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: back on, and it will become the thing that helps

700
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: you right the ship instead of the thing that makes

701
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: the wheels come off. That's how you end up with

702
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: such an awful third quarter net rating because when things

703
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: get bad for this team, they continue to fall back

704
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: on their bad habits and it just becomes a compounding problem.

705
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know how you can fix that until fundamentally,

706
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: from the top down, you start to to change that

707
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: identity and I and it, you know, it does start

708
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: with Lebron and a d um and so as even

709
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: though it's not necessarily their fault in a vacuum that

710
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: things are the way that they are the only person

711
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: capable of changing it is then that they're they're the

712
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: only ones that have the the ability to inspire the

713
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: rest of these guys to try to fix some of

714
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: these bad habits. Yeah, and I think it's a fair

715
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: crushed question whether or not, like it's fair to ask

716
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: Lebron because again, like we talked about a d at

717
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: the five and the defensive issue that causes, but Lebron

718
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: also at the four has to be a super defender,

719
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: right like, just to cover up for all the cards

720
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: that we have for the rest of Westbrook defense that

721
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: we have, playing a lot of League Monk, playing a

722
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: lot of Carmelo, he asked to be that super not

723
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: defensive player of the year, but all defense type of player.

724
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: And is that fair to ask of him in year nineteen?

725
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: And I think we saw a lot of that as

726
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: well in the second half, where you know, I thought

727
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: on the first half his defense was pretty good. Second

728
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: half it really kind of tailed off. Um those jumpers

729
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: again didn't fall. But you talked about the habits. I

730
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: don't think this team knows what it is right now,

731
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: and it's battling and it's having an identity crisis to me,

732
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: like they're trying to figure out who they are. And

733
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: I think I think the Avery Bradley. Look, it's not

734
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: even Bradley's fault, like it's not fair to blame him,

735
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: but I think he kind of just represents this like, oh,

736
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: to the other side, right. It's why I like, it's

737
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: why I predicted he'd start tonight, because it's kind of

738
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: like Vogel's way of being like, yeah, I still have

739
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: a defensive first player out there, you know what I mean,

740
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: even though probably in totality he's kind of hurting you

741
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: on both ends. The defense doesn't really match the style

742
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: that he's really good for. Like I said before the eight,

743
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: at the five induces a lot of switching. I don't

744
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: think that's perfect for Bradley. That's not the type of player.

745
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: That's the type of player he is. It's the reason

746
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: he's on a minimum deal, right, It's the reason he

747
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: was cut by the Warriors like that. There's a reason why.

748
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: He has a specific skill set that's supposed to fit

749
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: a specific style of play, and I don't think that

750
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: fits it. But you have to find some players here.

751
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: Maybe Baysmore comes back from the rotation. You just need

752
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: more size, more different defensive size there. I don't want

753
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: this to be all doom and gloom, you know what

754
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: I mean? Like this is this is the bronze first

755
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: game back. Hopefully we get some rotation pieces here, and

756
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: that's where I kind of want to go next with this,

757
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: I guess, because it's probably unfair. It's probably crazy that,

758
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, missing Austin Reeves, the undrafted rookie having the

759
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: impact it is, but it does, right, Like Austin Reeves

760
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: being out is actually a big impact. He's a guy

761
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: who does fight for defensive boards. He's a guy that

762
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: does rough it up inside. You talk about you talk

763
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: a lot about how like fighting inside is dirty, right,

764
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: it's ugly. You get elbowed in the face a lot,

765
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: you gotta be willing to get elbowed and faced a lot.

766
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: Austin Reads is a guy that does that. Trevor Reason

767
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: hopefully coming back. Kendrick Nunn isn't even on this road trip.

768
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: We'll see when he comes act. But that's where I

769
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: guess want to end here. We did. There was there

770
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: was a lot of doom and gloom in this in

771
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: this show, but like putting three more rotation players I

772
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: think does help. But this team has to figure out

773
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: who they are, like you gotta pick one. And to me,

774
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: this is a fit around Russ. Russ is not going anywhere,

775
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: like we said, and this is a team that has

776
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: to fit around his skill set. I thought again tonight,

777
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: starting Avery Bradley just induces again. It's just one shooter,

778
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: but when you put him next to th ht Lebron

779
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: and a d it makes all of them jump shooters,

780
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: like in a weird way, you know what I mean,

781
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: Like it turns all three of them into jump shooters,

782
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: which is the worst, the worst outcome. So that's why

783
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: I wanted at least one shooting in there. And maybe

784
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: Wayne Ellington still gets cooked. Maybe we still get blown

785
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: out from the leak Monk starts. I just like, I

786
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: think we have to go all in here and not

787
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: try to play these both sides having an identity that

788
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: the team doesn't really know who they are right now,

789
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: and I think that's troubling. But getting three three rotation

790
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: players back, I think, what hell would you agree with that?

791
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: Getting like a Resa None whoever else without a reasback

792
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: would kind of help some of the rotation here. That's

793
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: all I can kind of think of to me. Carmel

794
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: is playing too many minutes like and probably Malik Monk

795
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: needs to be more of a spark plug rather than

796
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: a guy you just throw out there. This long to

797
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: be attacked defensively. Do you see what I'm going with that.

798
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get a little positivity on this

799
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: Friday night here, for sure. So let's let's try to

800
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: frame this from the from the discussion of how the

801
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: Lakers can write this ship, because we you kind of

802
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: you kind of have to accept things the way that

803
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: they are. For instance, So I think I think Frank

804
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: is weighing over his skis offensively. I don't think he

805
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: has any idea how to maximize this specific set of

806
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: players in terms of their skill sets. You could tell

807
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: not only with the lineups that he throws out there,

808
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: but just with the way that the offense functions in

809
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: terms of the the amount of motion or lack of

810
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: motion that exists. He's completely in over his head. He

811
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: is he is incapable as a basketball coach of solving

812
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: the offensive problem. But the reality is, no coach that

813
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: is currently available is capable of fixing that problem. If

814
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: you go if you go to Fisdale or somebody along

815
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: the lines, you're gonna have the same problem. As a

816
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: matter of fact, I think it was revealed today or

817
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: the day before that Fizdale is technically the offensive coordinator

818
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: of the team right now. So that tells you all

819
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: you need to know in that regard. So yes, I

820
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: think they need to fire Frank, but it strictly has

821
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 1: to do with buy in. I think he's I think

822
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: I think that the reality is is the team has

823
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: quit on him. So if they were willing to put

824
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: because I'll give you an example, defensive rebounding. Right, Frank

825
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Vogel has been preaching about defensive rebounding from the guards

826
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: NonStop over the course of the last month. He knows

827
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: it's one of their biggest weaknesses. With eighty at the five,

828
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: it was one of the biggest reasons why he waited

829
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: so long to go to eight at the five. That's

830
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 1: something he preaches and still on almost every possession, someone

831
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: like a Malique Monk or Rajon Rondo or rust or

832
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: somebody on the wing misses a goddamn box out. It

833
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: happens on almost every possession. Clearly, whatever he's putting out

834
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: there in their coaches meetings, whatever he's putting out there

835
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: in the film sessions, guys just aren't doing it, okay,

836
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: So that that that that is step one, is they

837
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: have to get this group bought into the concepts. Okay,

838
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: whether that's just Lebron shoeing everybody out in the meeting

839
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: or then just getting sick of losing or whatever it is,

840
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: somebody that they have to at least buy into the scheme. Okay. Two,

841
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: you pointed this out. Lebron and Nadie have to be

842
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: all defensive caliber players. They can't be. They can't be okay,

843
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: they can't compete for stretches. They can't have a quarter

844
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: here there where they look like all defensive players. They

845
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: have to have a two thousand, twenty level defensive commitment

846
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: that absolutely has to happen. If that doesn't happen, this

847
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: team is going nowhere and then three in terms of

848
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: the rotation, and maybe time to start playing because there's

849
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 1: an individual identity in a team identity, right. What makes

850
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves play the way he does despite the team

851
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: lacking that identity is he has an individual identity as

852
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: a guy who's willing to do the dirty work. As

853
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, when he's on the floor, that's

854
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: all he's the king about. Okay, so you may have

855
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: to start trying to find the guys on the roster

856
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why they're playing Bradley, which you know

857
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: what's so frustrating is he was one of the guys

858
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: giving up so many straight line drives tonight. I think

859
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Jason Maple sweeted out, Like, what's the point if he's

860
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: if he's if he's such a he's so trigger happy

861
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: on offense and never has seen a jump shot he

862
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: doesn't like. But then on the other end, he's not

863
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: doing his job. So it's frustrating. But they need to

864
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: identify the players on the team that have somewhat of

865
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: an idea individual identity that is catered to defense, even

866
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: if that means Baysmore as crazy as all hell and

867
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: he does stupid stuff all the time, But if he's

868
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: at least focused on doing the job that is needed

869
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: out of the position, you might it might be worth

870
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: sacrificing the space and to try to recapture some of

871
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: that because over the course of of of a couple

872
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: of games, if you if you cater to those guys,

873
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: it might cause some of these other guys to then

874
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: buy into that identity because they'll have no choice otherwise

875
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: they won't play. That would be the next thing I

876
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: would do, and the next, the last thing, And this

877
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: to me is absolutely critical. Lebron, A, d Russ, and

878
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: th HT have to buy into the fact that they

879
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: are rim pressuring players and not perimeter players. I love

880
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Lebron and Anthony Davis and th h T and even

881
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: Ross on occasion taking a balanced catch and shoot jump

882
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: shot when someone else just got to the rim. But

883
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: outside of that specific scenario, all four of those guys

884
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: have to cut way back on their jump shot hunting

885
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: and get back to becoming what they are when they're

886
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: at their best. Which is guys who put relentless pressure

887
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: on the rim. If those four guys put relentless pressure

888
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: on the rim, it will turn around everything with the

889
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: offense because it will cave everybody in and even guys

890
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: like bays Moore and even guys like Avery Bradley will

891
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: start to get better looks and everything will turn round offensively.

892
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: But they you can't. It can't be Lebron's biggest three

893
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: point volume season and Anthony Davis returning to you know,

894
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: becoming Kevin Duran out of the high post, and th

895
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: h t showing off all the stepbacks and oh russ

896
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 1: is taking four jump shots every third quarter. It cannot

897
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: be that. If it's that, this is gonna blow up.

898
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: But I think if they can accomplish those things by

899
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: into the coaches scheme, start to favor guys who have

900
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: some sort of individual identity centered around effort and focus

901
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: and all of the details of that that that effect winning,

902
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: and if their starting their core four players embrace pressuring

903
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: the rim, I do think this ship will turn around. Yeah,

904
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm just gonna like spoil something for you.

905
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: The rust jumpers aren't going away like that's just not

906
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: that's just not going away like he's going to continue

907
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: to It's just we have we have too much of

908
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: a sample size for him throughout his career, maybe other

909
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: than that one, you know season in Houston when they

910
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: really had no center and it was just p J.

911
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: Tucker out there at the five where he really limited

912
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 1: his three point attempts and I think he's still took

913
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: almost three a game. But but yeah, those rust jumpers

914
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: aren't going away. And again, like I think this season

915
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: has just become like you have to actu as the

916
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 1: talent to make to fit us. Like that's just what

917
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: it's become is positive and negatives are too loud to me,

918
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: Like like that's where I think this season has gone to.

919
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: And there's stuff we can do, Like you said that

920
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: Vogel's in over his head offensively, and look, Vogel is

921
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: not an offensive late in coach, Like I think that's

922
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: been clear. But we did used to run sets like

923
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: it used it did not used to just be these

924
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: like go down, you know, throwing the post a d

925
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: like we used to have these sets for do you

926
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: remember these sets we used to run for KCP where

927
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: like he'd started in the corner and be like a

928
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: double drag into a handoff, like where is that all gone? Like?

929
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: Or like what happened to all the hornsets we were

930
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: running when Lebron was out, you know, with Carmelo and

931
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: a d Like what happened to all that? Like all

932
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: that seems to be gone tonight was just a bunch

933
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: of just isolation and maybe bosch everything, and sure, yeah,

934
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: that's of it. And then like I noticed one play tonight,

935
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 1: so like it was Taylan in that k CP spot

936
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: where he was going to come off a drible handoff

937
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: and then the Carmelo just decided I'm gonna go in

938
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: the post and then it became just a Carmelo post up.

939
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: So stuff like that happens. But I think there is

940
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: some offensive stuff there and I think he is searching,

941
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: Like we talked about good process all the time. I

942
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: think that fourth quarter is something to look into, like

943
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: putting Russ. Lebron was at the five, you had Russ

944
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: and look didn't defend great. And I don't think this team,

945
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: we talked about it before the season, could there be

946
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: a top ten defense And I'd be happy with top

947
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: probably fifteen right now, just the way I'm seeing them defend,

948
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: but like, like this is an offensive minded team, Like

949
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: I think that's where it's gonna have to lean to,

950
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: and that goes against everything Vogel believes in. It's just

951
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 1: a roster construction is made that way. And I think

952
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter was something to kind of lean into

953
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: there or it was Russ Lebron and three shooters. I

954
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: think it was Mellow, Ellington and Monk if I remember correctly.

955
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: And Russ got to the rim every time on Jayson

956
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: Tatum and he got lay up after lay up and

957
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: then they switched smart on him, and I think it

958
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: changed a little bit it But that's where I think

959
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: this season is kind of going into. You talked about

960
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: Lebron has to be this realm seeker, Like he just

961
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: can't be that in year nineteen though, Jason right, Like

962
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: it's just it's too much where on his body to me,

963
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: Like would he rather go the rim every time? I'm

964
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: sure he would, But like the jumper is kind of

965
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: the fallback, you know, like it's allows him to kind

966
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: of load manage while he's in games. And maybe the

967
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Lakers aren't good enough for him to do that. That

968
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: remains to be seen, but I think that's where the

969
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: jumper is. I think a D is the one that

970
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: falls back on that too much, Like he's the one

971
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: that I would like attacking the rim more and again

972
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: I swing against Al Horford. I don't think is the

973
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: right idea by it. I have to go back and look,

974
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: but I don't remember very many Russ a D pick

975
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: and rolls tonight. I don't remember any Lebron. Do you

976
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: remember any Lebron a D pick and rolls tonight? Like

977
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: I really honestly don't remember any. But again, it's sure, yeah,

978
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: the switching does just take that out. But I mean,

979
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: like when Russ is defended by Dennis Shrewter, like they

980
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: should not be able to switch a D onto onto

981
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: shoot sorry shooter onto a D. Anyway, That's besides my point.

982
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: It's just like I think there are actions, but we

983
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: do get into this super isolation heavy basketball. But but

984
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: what used to have like plays that at least pet plays.

985
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: It wasn't a whole wasn't like like some complicated supermotion

986
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: offense like the Warriors, like where the Warriors run where

987
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: it's all these split action stuff, but like there was

988
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: some more stuff there, but I'm just not seeing it again,

989
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: maybe that's just buying stuff, but yeah, like I just

990
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: don't think Lebron can be this super rim attacking guy

991
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: and you're nineteen. Th HD definitely has to be better,

992
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: but I think again, lineups have to work for him

993
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: as well, like the Lebron russ uh th HD didn't

994
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: have a great opening start, and again it's just one game,

995
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: but I would like to see him have his own

996
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: line up, Like there's things that can still be improved,

997
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: which is why I can't just get to the whole

998
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: other side. Like again, I kept saying, once you cross

999
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: the line, once you fire a coach, your season pretty

1000
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: much resets. Like that's fair. I mean, that's fair. They

1001
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: could need a reset, But like to me, that's a

1002
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 1: that's like a panic button I'm not ready to push yet,

1003
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: Like it's just too much has happened, like to just

1004
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: fire Frank. I don't see a solution where someone comes

1005
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: in and can put in all their stuff and you know,

1006
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: the Lakers roll on and maybe they can. I just

1007
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. Did you just let Franco I

1008
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 1: hear you. I do. I mean there are a couple

1009
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: of things, like there's a couple of basic rotational concepts

1010
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: that I wish Frank would figure out. So for instance,

1011
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: like having two creators on the floor, there's there's no

1012
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 1: reason ever to have Lebron, th HD and Russ all

1013
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: on the bench at the same time. And there's also

1014
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: no reason to not have either one of Dwight or

1015
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis on the floor. Um, just just in general,

1016
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: if you the way I would look at it is

1017
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: you need a rim Runner, and then you need your

1018
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: primary creator and you need a second side creator. So

1019
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: obviously th HT had been playing so well in the

1020
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: first three games that he needed to start, so I'm

1021
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: not advocating for ditching that, but what I would do is,

1022
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, get a quick sub, get one of them

1023
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: out quickly. I don't know if that's th H, hear Russ,

1024
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: and then just really simplify things, it's Lebron and a

1025
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: d Lebron and either Russ or th h T on

1026
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: the other wing, with Anthony Davis as the rim Runner

1027
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: and as guys. Sub out. If Lebron comes out, bring

1028
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Rust back in and it's Russ and t h D.

1029
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: If th HD comes out, it's Russ and Lebron, and

1030
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: so on and so forth, with a d comes out

1031
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: bringing Dwight. Keep it simple and with the rotation and

1032
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: build it around those creators. It will help them all

1033
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: with their rhythm. That's what I thought was so messed

1034
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: up about what Frank did the th HT tonight to

1035
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: disrupt his rhythm playing with the starters were inevitably it's

1036
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: a decent chance that he's not going to get a

1037
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: shot off, which which would be fine if, like with Dennis,

1038
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: he continued to get opportunities as the lead man and

1039
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: other lineups. PhD didn't really get that opportunity tonight. He

1040
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: was taken out of the game. And then here comes

1041
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: Rondo by himself, and then here comes th HT, but

1042
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: here comes Russ as well. Russ is gonna kind of

1043
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: dictate the vast majority of possessions in that regard. So

1044
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: it's like it's frustrating because I think I think Frank

1045
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: overthinks it with the rotation, and at think I think

1046
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: he views Rondo as someone that doesn't stagnate, someone that's

1047
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: more willing to try to move the ball around. But

1048
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is that at this phase,

1049
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: with what he gives up defensively and with the fact

1050
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: that he can't like simply finished layups at the rim

1051
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: when the defense does play the pass and force him

1052
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: to be uh, you know someone who can score, it

1053
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: just isn't a good option anymore. And so that that

1054
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: needs to be simplified down to like I would I

1055
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: would lean more into Russ as a primary creator instead

1056
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: of into Rondo. Like the thing that's the for the

1057
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: record in one thing in defense of us here, like

1058
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: it was, it was entirely predictable that in Lebron's first

1059
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: game back he would have a hard time figuring out

1060
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: where his spots are. Right. That goes without saying so

1061
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: like if if I'm Russ and I just went from

1062
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: being the primary guy two now Lebron's that guy, there

1063
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: was obviously going to be a little bit of an

1064
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: adjustment period and uh like that. The reality is is

1065
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: like I felt like everybody, especially Russ and th HT,

1066
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: we're kind of like hesitant about when they were supposed

1067
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Speaker 1: to attack. I think th h t S first shot,

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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, was a step back three on

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00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: the left wing in the second quarter. Point being like

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00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: he's just trying to fit in with the group and

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00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 1: try to figure out where he's going to be aggressive.

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Speaker 1: I would simplify it down and I get with both

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00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: of them, both Russ and th HD, and I'd be like,

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00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn if Lebron's on the floor.

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00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn if Anthony Davis is on

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00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: the floor. Get to the rim. If you catch the

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Speaker 1: ball and you think you can rip through and get

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00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: to the rim. If you see the backside of the

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00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: defense and you think there's an opportunity, go Because even

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00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: if you don't finish, it just opens things up. It

1081
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: gets the defense moving around, It collapses the defense and

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00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: gets things going. I think that hesitancy has to be cured,

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00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: you know. But but at the end of the day,

1084
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: like no one guy is to blame, Like I like,

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00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 1: Lebron had a really bad defensive second half, and obviously

1086
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: he was very rusty tonight with his handle. Anthony Davis

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00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: settled for way too many jump shots. Russ was really

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00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: passive in the first half and then suddenly got jumped

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00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: shot happy in the third quarter. And I thought he

1090
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: was pretty bad defensively tonight, you know, a th HD

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00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 1: struggled with hesitancy, and then most of the shots that

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00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: he took when he was trying to find his rhythm.

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00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: Were very difficult shots. And you know that I always

1094
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: preach that taking really difficult shots is a really bad

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00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: way to form your rhythm. And it's almost guaranteed to

1096
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: start a bad night unless you get hot at the beginning,

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00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, like every everyone is

1098
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: is culpable. No one person is to blame. However, I

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00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: think Lebron and a b are the ones that have

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Speaker 1: the capability of of playing well enough to kind of

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Speaker 1: inspire some change in the habits elsewhere on the roster. Sure,

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Speaker 1: and the Lakers keep making sure that my notes mean

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00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: nothing after the second half, But do you remember the

1104
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: player where a d got a dunk tonight? Like he

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00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: I think he dribbled from like the top and got

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00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: a dunk over was it? Al Horford? Do you remember

1107
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: that play? I don't know if you remember in the

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00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: first half or not, but Ad got a dunk in

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00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: this game where he dribbled in from the three pointer

1110
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: and it was off of a fake dribble handoff. He

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00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: faked it dribble drive and went went down and dunked it.

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Speaker 1: And I just think, like, there's again. I said this

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00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: in the last spaces that we did, But we keep

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00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: treating a D like he's We keep playing him as

1115
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: if he's the archetype of Dirk, and he's not Dirk,

1116
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: and we keep putting him in those type of situations

1117
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: instead of what he is, which is a big who

1118
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: has guard type of handles, who can really make plays

1119
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: and he can push it in transition if you let him.

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00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: It's just too much like a D gets the rebound,

1121
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 1: immediately looks for a guard, immediately looks for Rondo, immediately

1122
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: looks for Russ, like let him push it, Like we

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00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: we make things too difficult in my opinion, like we

1124
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: want to play fast, we want to play class. But

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00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: that doesn't just mean Russ has to push the ball

1126
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: like a D. Should have some kind of leeway there

1127
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: where you can push it, run, run something, get get

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00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: something early to the basket. And I'm still just not

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00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: seeing enough of that, Like that dribble drive he did

1130
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: for a dunk I think was the only player where

1131
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: like he actually dribbled in. And the point of putting

1132
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: a D at the five is not just to give

1133
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: us space, but to give a D space to write,

1134
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: like that's the whole point of that, is to also

1135
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: give him space, not have a center in the lane

1136
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: for to mucket mucket up for him, and I just like, like,

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00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: that's my kind of final thing I had. I guess

1138
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: is that, like I just want to see more A

1139
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: D is such a unique talent that like putting him

1140
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: as just as post up player. I think I saw

1141
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: someone tweet out tonight we had four team post ups

1142
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: and I think the league the lead. The lead in

1143
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: the league is like nine per game or something like.

1144
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: There's just no need to post up a D that much. First,

1145
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: he's not efficient enough at it. Second team's double way

1146
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: too easily because of the spacing we have. I just

1147
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: want to see A D a little bit more on

1148
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: the open floor, give him some more leeway there as

1149
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: a ball handler, because I think there's something there to

1150
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: open up. Like it's year three of a D and

1151
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: I feel like we're still just in this super rudimentary

1152
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: offense with him when he has so much more skills.

1153
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: The whole point, the whole thing about a D is

1154
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: he was a guard growing up as these hard skills

1155
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: and we just don't see it enough night tonight other

1156
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: than the mid range jumpers, the step back jumpers. Um,

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00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: I just would like to see a little bit more

1158
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: of that, and yeah, that's I guess all I all

1159
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I had for for this one. Yeah, so for for

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00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: those of you guys who missed it two nights ago,

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00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: Roger and I kind of got into this more in

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00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: depth to just the philosophy that the Lakers are too

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00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: reliant on post ups in a league that allows defenders

1164
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: the most leeway in post up defense, and that even

1165
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: though you can't ever count on Anthony Davis to be honest,

1166
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: a guy that can consistently break down a defense off

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00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: the dribble because he doesn't quite have the quick first

1168
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: step that Janice has, you absolutely can use him as

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00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: an isolation player or as a matchup attacking player and

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00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: things other than post ups, whether that's getting in with

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00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: a live dribble on the perimeter, starting him out with

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00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: the triple threat at the three point line, doing quick

1173
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: pick and pops where he's almost attacking a close out,

1174
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: just some variety other than here's a high post touch

1175
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: or here's like kind of an extended low block touch.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty much all he gets in the offense in

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Speaker 1: terms of isolation attempts, and it just doesn't make sense

1178
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: because it plays into some of the downsides of those

1179
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: offensive strategies in this era. And you know, the best

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00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: offenses that I see in the league right now are

1181
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: teams like Utah, are teams like the Clippers who just

1182
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: truly spaced the floor and count on guy's ability to

1183
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: beat people off the dribble and get into the paint

1184
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: and by doing that, start getting your defense and rotation

1185
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: and then swinging it around until there's a decent three

1186
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: point shot or until they screw up a rotation at

1187
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: the rim and you can get a layup. Those are

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00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: the kinds of things that the best offenses in the

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Speaker 1: league are doing right now. Yeah, there are some outliers.

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00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: You've got your teams like the Suns that run a

1191
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: Jazilian pick and rolls a game. You've got your teams

1192
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 1: like the Um of Warriors that run they're super super unique,

1193
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, star off ball, tons of cutting and screening offense,

1194
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. But with this group of players

1195
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: that we have, we have three guys who are extremely

1196
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: gifted at getting to the basket off the dribble, and

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00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: we've got lots of shooting, and we have this unbelievable

1198
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: versatile big that presents all his problems that he presents

1199
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: to the defense. Why are we not running a more

1200
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: modern offensive scheme that that gets That gets frustrating. But anyway,

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00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: we did go into more detail on that on the

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Speaker 1: last pot um. We're going to call it tonight for

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Speaker 1: right now, guys. On Sunday at I think three Pacific

1204
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: Standard time, the Lakers play the Pistons. Um. That should

1205
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: be a game that is a little bit less eventful,

1206
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: and we will take a bunch of collars. So all

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Speaker 1: of you who called in, I sincerely appreciate it. I'm

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00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: sorry we didn't get to you tonight. Please come back

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00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: on Sunday and we will take a bunch of calls. Um.

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Speaker 1: This will air on DASH Radio on Monday morning at

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Speaker 1: seven am Pacific Standard time, and we'll be on our

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Speaker 1: podcast feed here in about thirty minutes. As always, we

1213
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: sincerely appreciate your guys support and you're coming to hang

1214
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: out with us and hopefully at some point we'll have

1215
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: some more positive stuff to talk about. But you know,

1216
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: sometimes it takes getting punched in the mouth and really

1217
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: really really hit and rock bottom before you can look

1218
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: in the mirror and take some accountability over what's wrong

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00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: and hopefully, if we're lucky, this will be that moment

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Speaker 1: for this team. Yeah, appreciate everyone that came out Friday night.

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Speaker 1: On a Friday night, go enjoy the rest of your

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Speaker 1: your Friday, and appreciate every everyone coming