1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: We are rolling on the toothday edition of the program. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: I had to think there for a minute. Always our 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: tesday edition, I got you, I got you? Who always 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: good to get the day right right out of the 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: jump buck and I have already done one interview this 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: morning as we are promoting the continued growth of the show. 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: We got some good news coming for you on the 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: growth of the show in the near future, which maybe 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: should just go ahead and tell you, but we'll see. 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: So we are continuing to track everything going on in Minneapolis. 11 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Whoopy Goldberg has interesting takes, of course he does on 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: and by interesting I mean absolutely insane, and the rhetoric 13 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: has been taken to a completely absurd level as the 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: fallout of Minneapolis continues, plus lead story lots of different 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: places out there. There is a social media lawsuit that 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: is alleging that basically social media companies have been rigging 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: the sort of the algorithm but taking advantage of the 18 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: way that people's brains work go figure in a way 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: that's not dissimilar to cigarettes. And I'm curious what people's 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: reaction to all of that is. We may have a big, 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: broad based discussion on that. As I see that lawsuit 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: starting and it is one of the top stories across 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: the board. 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: But right now, the. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: Ongoing battle that is being fought is what is going 26 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: to happen in Minneapolis, as Minneapolis has emerged as the 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: foremost opposition to the Trump two point zero agenda, and 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: President Trump, just talking with the media this morning, had 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: this to say about may Or Fry and Governor Walls 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: and the conversations he has had with both. 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: Let's play cut one. 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: They had two very good talks. I had Jacob Prye 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: and I had Gonor, And I mean, they were great calls. 34 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: So let's see how they reported. But they were very 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 3: nice calls, very respectful. What we need is there criminals. 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: You know they have criminals. And all I said, just 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 3: give us your criminals. And if you give us the criminals, 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: it all goes away. They're there to pick up murders. 39 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw it, but it was 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: a couple of days ago announced that crime is the 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: lowest in the history of our country, the recorded history 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: of our country. That's a big statement. That's because of us. 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 3: That's because we go into cities and towns usually were embraced. 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes when Chicago is like pulling teeth with Pritz gurn 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: with the mayor, the mayor of Chicago, low IQ person 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: and usually were embraced. 47 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: Okay Bock. 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: So this is the argument that I think the White 49 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: House should pivot to. And I give Trump credit for 50 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: some kind of intuiting it. To me, the fact that 51 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: we are at one hundred and twenty five year violent 52 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: crime low and the fact that our border is one 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: hundred percent secure and we have begun to kick out 54 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: violent criminals is not coincidental. So if you want this 55 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: country to be as safe as possible, which I think 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: most people do, then it's going to require that we 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: aggressively kick out violent predators who shouldn't be here. So 58 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: I think linking the one hundred and twenty five year 59 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: low in crime is a no brainer. And I actually 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: think the White House has done a poor job of 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: connecting the work that they have done, particularly on the 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: border and as it pertains to illegal immigrants, with the 63 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: decline in overall crime. So I like the President doing it. 64 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: I think we need more of it. 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: Look, the initial messaging and we didn't address this much 66 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:51,559 Speaker 4: yesterday from DHS director or Secretary Gnome. 67 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: Was bad. 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: It was not the right stuff to say about the 69 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 4: situation that had unfolded there, which is why now they're 70 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: playing cleanup. You have to get the comms right on 71 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: this stuff. You cannot give the other side real opportunity 72 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 4: to point to misrepresentation of fact or a gross overstatement 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: of things. And unfortunately, and I think this is why 74 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: there's a bit of a personnel shuffle underway. But unfortunately, 75 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: some of the GNOME statements were they were bad, they 76 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 4: were wrong, and they were not wise things to say 77 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: at that time. By the way, I'm not passing judgment 78 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 4: one way or the other on the agents involved in 79 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: the shooting of Pretty that is that's his name, right, 80 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 4: Pretty Is. Yeah, I'm not passing judgment on them. I 81 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 4: am saying the higher ups, and specifically the the the 82 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: head of DHS, Nome, did not handle this well. And 83 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: that is that is a reality that the Trump administration 84 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: is dealing with right now. 85 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 2: And I think that it's because. 86 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: Secretary Nome to this point has been able to just 87 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: go all in on whatever she thinks the most hardline 88 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 4: position is, and that has been what we've needed up 89 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 4: to this point. But in a situation where the facts 90 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: need further review, you don't go to some maximum position 91 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 4: not not supported by the facts, because now you've created 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: a problem. That's part that's why there's a little bit 93 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: of a moment here for the administration that has resulted. 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: I think in this reassessment about tactics and even strategy 95 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 4: in Minneapolis. That said, Clay, I believe this is an 96 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 4: absolutely critical moment. This is a moment of either clarity 97 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: or honestly retreat on the issue of illegal immigration enforcement. 98 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: We should not be making concessions about and it's not 99 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 4: clear that the administration is doing that. I'm just saying 100 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 4: this is the just decisions are being made right now. 101 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 4: I mean, in these moments, in these hours about how 102 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: this is going to proceed, and the resistance, if you will, 103 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: is for the first time, really emboldened. They're emboldened by 104 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 4: what they see as a crack in the facade. They 105 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 4: see a crack in the you know, a break in 106 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 4: the damn if you will. And you even have this, judge, 107 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure you saw this, Clay. A judge Patrick Schlitz 108 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: has called for the head of ICE Operations, todd Lyons, 109 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 4: Acting director todd Lyons to appear before him in court. 110 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 4: You have a judge demanding a federal law enforcement senior 111 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: federal LA enforcement officer personally appear before him because of 112 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: a case that the judge says that he put out 113 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 4: an order on where they're supposed to be a bond hearing. 114 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 4: But I mean, Clay, this is like a federal judge saying, hey, 115 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: there's a case, and I don't like what's you know, 116 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: the delay in the case. So I want the head 117 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: of the FBI to show up before me an answer 118 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: for this, My friends, we cannot negotiate with domestic terrorists. 119 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: We cannot cave to sabotage operations. We cannot allow the 120 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: resistance judiciary to subvert federal policy. And Clay, I'm very 121 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 4: concerned that people are starting to lose a little bit 122 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: of their spinal stiffness over this. 123 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to happen, and it's going to happen 124 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: because there are unfortunately a lot of people that are 125 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: not truly committed to the idea of removing illegal immigrants. 126 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: And we look, it's so important to think about how 127 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: this is going to play out. We have told you 128 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: exactly what was going to happen. Now to be fair, 129 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: year one, getting as many violent criminals out of the 130 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: country is the top focus year two. In order to 131 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: get illegal immigrant out of the country, you're going to 132 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: have to start to just take illegal immigrants out of 133 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: the country, some of whom do not have violent criminal backgrounds. 134 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: And that is where it becomes politically more challenging, because 135 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: this is where the actual argument, to me, needs to 136 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: be put forward and Democrats need to be put on 137 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: the record. How many illegal immigrants is okay? 138 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: Right? 139 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: I mean to me, that's really what the debate is over, 140 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: and Democrats, by and large, Buck, it seems to me 141 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: quite clearly, I think the answer is the numbers that 142 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 4: we have now are find that's based on their action. 143 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: And this is also maybe we should get Gurdusky on 144 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 4: to talk about this, because I was reading his analysis 145 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 4: of this this morning. 146 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: Buck, the real battle. If you're like, why is this 147 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: really going on? 148 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: What's really the stakes here, it's the twenty thirty census. 149 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: The more and more I look at this, the more 150 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: and more I focus and say, this is all about 151 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 4: the twenty f thirty census. And you're out there and 152 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: you say, well, what do you mean by that, Clay? 153 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 4: In twenty thirty, Democrats are facing a truly existential crisis 154 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: when it comes to the electoral college, because they are 155 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 4: going to lose a ton of seats. There's going to 156 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: be a major swing in a population that is finally 157 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: taken into account and is continuing to skyrocket even to 158 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 4: this day. And the states in the South, red states 159 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: overwhelmingly are adding electoral votes, adding congressional seats, and blue 160 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 4: states are losing them. And the easiest way to sum 161 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 4: this up is Kamala Harris could have won the presidency 162 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: if she had gotten about two hundred and thirty thousand 163 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: or so more votes. If she had won Pennsylvania, Michigan, 164 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: in Wisconsin, she would have won thanks to the vote 165 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: that she got in Omaha, Nebraska, she would have won 166 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 4: two seventy to two sixty eight even if she lost 167 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: the popular vote. If she had won Pennsylvania, Michigan, in 168 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: Wisconsin in twenty thirty, that pathway no longer exists. In 169 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: order to be elected president, Democrats are going to have 170 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 4: to win some combination of Georgia, North Carolina, Arizona, or 171 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: they're going to have to take away some of the 172 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 4: bedrock red states. And they're panicked over this buck. That's 173 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: really I think what this battle is about because the 174 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: future map for Democrats is really bad and they don't 175 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: really have a pathway to win the House or win 176 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 4: the presidency based on the arguments that they're putting out 177 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 4: there right now. 178 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: So why are they fighting so hard. They need these 179 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants to be counted in the census or they're 180 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: going to lose even more. 181 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: Seats in twenty thirty. That's the story here to me. 182 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 4: Well, also, this is going to put an end to 183 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: their favorite game of replacing the American electorate with people 184 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 4: from the Third World who are going to be more 185 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: generationally as we see in Somalis in Minneapolis, dependent on welfare, 186 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: the largesse of the state, the transfer of wealth, and 187 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: including sometimes large scale fraud for these new immigrant communities, 188 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 4: like they want that to continue. And if they can 189 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: just open the borders and invite in the Third World 190 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: and then say, guess what, you're as American as everybody 191 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: who's been here and every multi generational American and everybody, 192 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 4: they really just disintegrate our political union. I mean, over time, 193 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: this ceases to be a country. It's an economic zone. 194 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 4: It's a welfare ward to a soup kitchen for the world. 195 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: And that's what they want, because then you have the 196 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 4: everlasting enlargement of the state, and you have the reality 197 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: of a multi trillion dollar welfare state just getting larger 198 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: and larger and larger all the time. And so it 199 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 4: suits Democrats just fun they want. You'll notice this, They 200 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: talk about how the next Google founder. No, they actually 201 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 4: want people showing up who don't speak the language, who 202 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: don't have any political allegiance to American hit or American 203 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 4: culture or anything else, who come here and go, where's 204 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 4: my stuff? 205 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: Yep? 206 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 4: And that stuff is taken from all of you, by 207 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: the way, all of you Americans of all different colors 208 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: and religions. That stuff is taken from you and then 209 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 4: given to these people who arrive here. That is the reality. 210 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 4: And Democrats don't have a way of explaining this clay 211 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 4: that is better than what we are seeing right now. 212 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: So that is why they want the violence in the 213 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 4: streets in Minneapolis. They want to pretend it's the Gestapo. 214 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 4: They have to emotionalize the issue because ultimately, what they've 215 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: engaged in is the disintegration of our sovereignty and the 216 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: mass transfer of American wealth to the third world. The 217 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: Supreme Court, if you told me right now, Clay, what 218 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 4: case out there should they rule on. I think we 219 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: need a Supreme Court ruling on whether congressional seats should 220 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: count illegal immigrants for purposes of allocation, because I would 221 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 4: argue that that absolutely should be the case, And if 222 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: you eliminated that incentive, I think a lot of Democrats 223 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: policies and positions on the border would change very rapidly 224 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 4: because they would recognize that they're not getting a benefit. 225 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: The studies out there suggest that counting illegal immigrants for 226 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: purposes of the congressional seat allocations is getting Democrats ten 227 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 4: to twenty additional seats. In other words, they would have 228 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: no chance of winning the House but for illegal immigrant 229 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 4: populations being counted. I cannot imagine buck that the United 230 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 4: States are founders ever thought that illegal immigrants, people who 231 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 4: were not allowed to be here because it was so 232 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: hard to get here back in the day, that we 233 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 4: would be counting people who are not American citizens for 234 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 4: purposes of representation. There's a zero percent chance that they 235 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 4: would have been in favor of that when this country 236 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 4: was founded, and frankly, I don't think the Supreme Court 237 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: would sign off on this now. I think a case 238 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: on this should go to the Supreme Court, and it's 239 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: of the essence now before we get to the twenty 240 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: thirty cycle. The Supreme Court should decide this in advance 241 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: of the twenty thirty census. Look, we got hit hard 242 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 4: by this winter storm here in Nashville. 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That is still the most important story 273 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: and the most important fight underway right now in this country. 274 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: And it's something that we're going to. 275 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 4: Continue to discuss with all of you and bring you 276 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: the latest on. And we'll talk also to Ryan Gradusky 277 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: at the bottom of the hour about some numbers. And 278 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: this ties into the long term political implication of all this. 279 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: Why do democrats care so much Without all these illegals, 280 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 4: they lose power? Does anything matter to Democrats more than power, 281 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: Absolutely not. 282 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: So they'll do whatever they have to do to keep this. 283 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 4: Whole machinery of open borders and Third world invasion going. 284 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 4: That is the plan, and they are all in on it, 285 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: and we knew that they would be. Now, let me 286 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 4: bring you this and Clay, this is really interesting because 287 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 4: I've seen a number of these analyzes that are popping 288 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: up online. 289 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: Like I said, we have. 290 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: With the gwatt audience of this show alone, we could 291 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 4: definitely overthrow a medium sized countries, you know, military and 292 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 4: everything else. We got a lot of former Specops advisors, 293 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 4: Intel guys, by the way, very honored that you choose 294 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 4: to listen to us. But I know from our comments 295 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 4: and from people coming up to me, people emailing us, 296 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 4: and all the rest, that we got a lot of 297 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 4: you who know the world of asymmetrical warfare, no propaganda 298 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: operations and no decentralized networks, and how they operate for 299 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: the purposes of terrorist groups and how they operate for insurgents, 300 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 4: And that's really interesting. You have this piece up in 301 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 4: the New York Post today and it gets into exactly 302 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 4: some of that stuff, which I think people need to 303 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 4: know more about. It's why I'm calling the sabotage operations 304 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 4: military terminology. Remember, sabotage operations, not necessarily lethal sabotage operation. 305 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: A lot of times it's not going to be it's 306 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: going to be something now it can be, but it's 307 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 4: going to be something where there, you know, maybe you're 308 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 4: going to go after the you know, the gasoline supply 309 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 4: or the communications or whatever it may be of an opponent. 310 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 4: And that's what's going on here with immigration and Customs enforcement, 311 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: this New York Border. I'm sorry this New York Post 312 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: piece because in the following Clay quote, the skirmish that 313 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: led to Saturday's fatal shooting of an agitator by Border 314 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: patrol agents in Minneapolis and the response that followed were 315 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: driven by a complex network of far left organizations with 316 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 4: a wide range of causes. This is actually a Fox 317 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 4: News piece, by the way, re published on New York 318 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: Posts by Ozra Nomani. Fox News Digital investigation. A coordinated 319 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: web of encrypted chats, street alerts, and tracking of ice 320 00:18:54,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: abductors in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital 321 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 4: shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 322 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: thirty seven year old Alex Priddy was killed minutes before 323 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 4: any shots were fired. ICE in border patrol aidents were 324 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 4: there to arrest an a legal immigrant criminal Pretty and 325 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 4: others were there outside a donut shop to meet them 326 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference sabotage 327 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 4: operations with law enforcement. 328 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: Over the following. 329 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 4: Hours, a national network of socialist communists and Marxist Leninist 330 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: cells in the United States leveraged the tragic fatality into 331 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: a nationwide protest operation. This level of engineered chaos is 332 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: unique to Minneapolis, though it is the direct consequence of 333 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 4: far left agitators working with local authorities. According to JD 334 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 4: Vance Encrypted signal Clay, I go on and on. They 335 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: are operating this thing like a decentralized domestic terror cell. 336 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 4: The only difference is that they inviting violence through their 337 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 4: sabotage operations instead of directing the violence themselves and attacking 338 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: ICE agents. So far, we worry that that may change. Well, 339 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: my concern is if they get what they want in Minneapolis, 340 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 4: their tactics and techniques and methods, will GGPS call them tactics, 341 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 4: techniques and procedures. 342 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 2: There's the terminology there. There you go that's off the 343 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: top of my head. 344 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm not the expert, but that makes sense in the 345 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: language that they would adopt this in every other blue 346 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: city that decides that they want to combat everything that. 347 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: ICE is doing. 348 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 4: So this is one of the reasons that I think 349 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 4: there has to be some form of resolution that doesn't 350 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: look like a complete withdrawal that can be claimed as 351 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 4: victory by these individuals. Now, to be fair, I can't 352 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 4: imagine there's that many illegals in the grand scheme of 353 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 4: things in Minneapolis compared to places like California, Texas, and Florida. 354 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: So I do think that this was naturally going to 355 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 4: wind down in Minneapolis at some point in time, just 356 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: because the target rich environments of illegal immigration. I would 357 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: not think in Minneapolis. If I were guessing Buck, I 358 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't think Minneapolis is in the top fifty most illegal 359 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 4: immigrant populations in the United States. And you might say, 360 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 4: why would you say that, Clay, I don't think most 361 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 4: illegal immigrants, who tend, as a general rule, to come 362 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 4: from warmer climates are going to go to Minneapolis and 363 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 4: say I want to be in minus twenty weather for 364 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: entire months at a time, basically in the winter right. 365 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 4: So most illegal immigrant populations, in my opinion, are going 366 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: to be in California, Texas, and Florida for the same 367 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 4: reason that a lot of y'all are in California, Texas, 368 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 4: in Florida because the weather's better, all right. 369 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: It's also the economies are growing fast. Certainly in Texas 370 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: there are more population is larger. That's what I would anticipate. 371 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 4: So my point on this is Ice pulling out of Minneapolis. 372 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 4: They could have done most of the work in Minneapolis, 373 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: which is a relatively small population. Again, I think both 374 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 4: at large relatively small population, but also I would think 375 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 4: a relatively small population of overall illegal immigrants. So I 376 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 4: think it would be natural that they would be winding 377 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 4: down whatever work they are going to do there in 378 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 4: the days and weeks ahead. So that's a natural altgrowth. 379 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: My concern is what Buck just laid out, which is 380 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 1: that they're going to take the methods that they learned 381 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis and apply them elsewhere. Second part of what 382 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about, Buck, communication, This is a communication battle. Now, 383 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: all of politics is a communication battle, and primarily it's 384 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: a battle of story. 385 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: What story are you telling? And is your story more compelling? 386 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: Does it land in a way better than your opponent's story. 387 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 4: I think we're using way too much language associated with 388 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 4: the way that they are telling their story on the left, 389 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 4: and I think this has to be You heard me 390 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 4: in the first hour. 391 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: I think the President, I think the White House. I 392 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: think Republicans at large have to tie in the ICE 393 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: actions with record low crime in America. Did you see 394 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the headline from the New York Times where they were 395 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: I think Eric Trump shared it, but the New York 396 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: Times was saying, we don't know why crime has suddenly 397 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: fallen to one hundred and twenty five year low. 398 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: Experts are unsure. 399 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: Let me give you one idea that I'm pretty confident in. 400 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: Having a completely secure southern border and kicking out tens 401 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: of thousands of violent criminals has made the United States safer. 402 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: And that's because of the actions of Trump. But how 403 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: many people do you hear making that argument? 404 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: Connect? 405 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 4: So people can make that connection if they're not otherwise 406 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 4: doing it. 407 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Wait a minute. 408 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: I want my community to be safe, I want my 409 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: state to be safe. I want my country to be safe. 410 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: That's why I was hammering last week one hundred and 411 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: twenty five year low in murders, and Buck and I 412 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: have been saying this for five years. With all of you, 413 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: you can say, well, why focus on murder, because you 414 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: know if somebody got murdered right. One of the downsides 415 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: of high crime is when Buck's scooter got. 416 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: Stolen in New York City. I know no one cares 417 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 4: in peace rest in peers. 418 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: But you didn't report it because it wasn't worth your 419 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: time to get the cops involved searching for your scooter. Now, 420 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: my wife got a bike stolen, see them in like 421 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: the nineteenth Priesinct Girl of the Yeah kid, we got 422 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: our best people on it. 423 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 2: Sure we'll get back to you on that scooter that 424 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: was stolen. 425 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: My wife was so mad. When we lived in uh 426 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: downtown Nashville. She had a great bike to bike to school. 427 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: Sometimes they stole her bike. Somebody did cut the chain 428 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: right out of where we were living in downtown Nashville. 429 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: She was furious about it. I don't think we reported 430 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: it because the cops wouldn't have done anything about it. 431 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: So my point on murder is sometimes you look at 432 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: crimes and petty crimes don't get reported because you're so frustrated. 433 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: They're so common, and you know nothing's going to get 434 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: done with it. I bet some of you out there 435 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: work in stores and somebody comes in and they steal 436 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: stumping out of your store, and you're like, do I 437 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 1: want to spend an hour trying to deal with the 438 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: cops on this when I know they're not going to 439 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: do anything once the individual's gotten away. My point on 440 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: this is murders, we tend to know whether they happen 441 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: or not. So the fact that we're at one hundred 442 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: and twenty five year low and murders is an incredible 443 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: credit to Trump. You have to tie it in with ice. 444 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: It's all part and parcel of the reason why this 445 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: has occurred. If you want some ice, we got to 446 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: get bad guys out. 447 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: I also think Clay, the surge and just federal law 448 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 4: enforcement mean, I can tell you from the FBI side 449 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 4: as well as other federal agencies, they decided it's amazing 450 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 4: what you can accomplish when instead of of hunting down 451 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: nonviolent J six protesters like al Qaeda members, you actually 452 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 4: go after murderers, rapists, cartel hitmen, you know, child abuser, 453 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 4: all these things. When when the federal law enforcement agencies 454 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: are going after people that are a danger to the 455 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 4: public and who prey on their fellow human beings. 456 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: Good things happen for public safety. It's kind of amazing, 457 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: isn't it. 458 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: When when cops feel like you have their back to 459 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 4: protect good people and to punish the lawbreakers, there's less lawbreaking. 460 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 4: This is This is a shock I know to all 461 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: of the uh you know, all of the the women 462 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 4: you're seeing on Facebook who live in safe suburbs, who 463 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 4: are like. 464 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: What's going on with Ice? Is the gestapo? 465 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 4: Uh? But it turns out it's true. The very straightforward 466 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 4: and common sense law enforcement approach of the Trump administration works. 467 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 4: What a shock, Clay, And here. 468 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: We are, I know, but this is important, right Like 469 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: I would argue for everybody out there, if you said, Clay, 470 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: what is the number one job of the government in 471 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: the United States, like in our physical country. 472 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 2: Keep people safe? 473 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: Like I would argue that is the number one goal, 474 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: because if people aren't safe, nothing else works. Right now, 475 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: you can subdivide that and break down what do we 476 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: mean by safety. There's a bunch of different angles associated 477 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: with it. But on the most important job, I would 478 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: argue that the federal government could have and that your 479 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: local and state government could have because they all work 480 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: in concert. I would argue, it's keep us safe, keep 481 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: us from getting married, murdered. I hope you get married 482 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: and keep us safe, keep us from getting murdered, keep 483 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: the streets safe in all of our communities. Ever in 484 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: the life of anyone listening right now, has there ever 485 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: been a time when there was a lower murder rate 486 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: in this country. That's an incredible accomplishment of Trump one 487 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: point zero. Ice is intimately involved in that success story, 488 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: and that is why we have to do it and 489 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: buck You and I talked about this a couple of 490 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: weeks ago. It's not coincidental that Minneapolis and the BLM 491 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: protest in the wake of George Floyd led to the 492 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: largest increase in murders we have ever seen in any 493 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: of our lives. That's FBI data. They're trying to create 494 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: the same kind of situation with Ice, where they want 495 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: people to rise up and they want to create chaos 496 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: in the streets. Again, we cannot allow it. 497 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: Well said you should have a radio show that was 498 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: thank you. Yeah, all right, Look, your identity is in 499 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 4: two places. The stuff you carry around in your wallet, 500 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: never out of sight or mind. And then there's your 501 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: online identity, all your information parked in a variety of 502 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: databases online. We can't trust the security of those databases 503 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 4: because huge breaches happen. 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Find 523 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 6: it on the iHeartRadio amp or wherever you get your podcasts. 524 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: Welcome back into Clay and Buck our brilliant numbers nerd. 525 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 2: We say that with tremendous affection. 526 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 4: Ryan Gradusky is blowing up the Internet with insights based 527 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 4: on the data. Once again, he joins us. Now he 528 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 4: is the host of the fabulous podcast It is a 529 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 4: numbers Game on the Clay and Buck podcast network. He's 530 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 4: also got a great substack where he I'm a subscriber 531 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 4: where he takes all this stuff and runs it through 532 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 4: the numbers machinery. Ryan, I want to start with this one. 533 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 4: I thought this was really interesting as we're talking Ice 534 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 4: is the big issue. Now we're going to focus in 535 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 4: on this Minneapolis, all of it. And I want your 536 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 4: general takes on some of this too, because you understand 537 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: the political dynamics really well. But your piece here, when 538 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 4: you crunch the numbers foreign born births cratered in October, 539 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: when ice operations and self deportations increase, give us walk 540 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 4: us through some of these numbers and why this is 541 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 4: significant what you see going on here? 542 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 3: Right? 543 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 7: So I always say that birth data is a lagging 544 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 7: indicator of overall immigration data. If you're an illegal alien 545 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 7: and you're seven months pregnant and Trump just got sworn in, 546 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 7: you're not going to sell deport You're going to hold 547 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 7: out until you give birth to the baby who will 548 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 7: be a citizen. If you're not pregnant when Trump's poor 549 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 7: is in, you may be more inclined to sit there 550 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 7: and seuth deport I just got its massive funding haul 551 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 7: in July of twenty twenty five, so they really started 552 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 7: escalating in August, and from August to October, which I 553 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 7: narrate through the piece, is you see an increasing decline 554 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 7: among births by foreign born nationals in the United States, 555 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 7: especially foreign born nationals with large illegal alien populations. So, 556 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 7: for instance, El Salidor had a thirty four percent decline 557 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 7: In the month of October twenty twenty four, there were 558 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 7: twenty seven hundred El Salvadorian women who gave birth in America. 559 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 7: That number decline to seventeen hundred at October twenty twenty five, 560 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 7: a very large fall, large than the overall natural amount 561 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 7: if people weren't leaving right. Among Chinese nationals that dropped 562 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 7: to twenty four percent from October to October is a 563 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 7: twenty four percent drop. Among other big groups of large 564 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 7: illegally on populations Nicaraguan's eighteen percent, Nigerian's twenty seven percent, 565 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 7: Honduran's twenty percent, Ecuadorians thirty percent. These are massive declines 566 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 7: in the number of foreign born women having children in America, 567 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 7: which would indicate they are likely not having them. Is 568 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 7: because those who would may be self deporting, or being 569 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 7: or being obtained and deported, self forced deportation, or planning 570 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 7: to self deport, so they're not going to sit there 571 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 7: and stay here all those things a huge, huge decline. 572 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 7: The twenty twenty five looks like, according to the early 573 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 7: CDC data up to October from Jenuine October that whites 574 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 7: are majority of births in the United States again for 575 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 7: the first time in two years now. They decline substantially 576 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 7: as Hispanics increase substantially under the Joe Biden administration, because 577 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 7: we're always a legal lance population is coming in as 578 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 7: form born births are declining. Also, a lot of minority 579 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 7: births are declining. White births have declined, but not at 580 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 7: the same rate as everybody else, which bounces them back 581 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 7: up into the majority as of October, it will likely 582 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 7: be the majority game come January. Almost things really take 583 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 7: a turn in the data that we don't know yet. 584 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 7: I highly doubt that's going to happen in the last 585 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 7: two months of the year, but it's very interesting how 586 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 7: birth data kind of gives indicators to immigration data. 587 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: Ryan Gerdeski with US Now we encourage you to go 588 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Clay and Buck podcast network, of which 589 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: he is a great part, and a lot of you are. 590 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: Listening to his show. 591 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Okay, looking at the census apportionment forecast, which I know 592 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: you have been focused on as well, and this is 593 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: going to be kind of detailed, and so I understand 594 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: if you're listening it's hard to visualize, but let me 595 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: kind of give you a sense. This is the Carnegie 596 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: Mellon University forecast that Texas. 597 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: Will gain four see Florida four. 598 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: Seats than Idaho, Utah, Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia, and South 599 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: Carolina would each gain one seat. States losing seats California 600 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: New York. California would lose four New York to Illinois two, 601 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: then Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, Oregon, Wisconsin, Rhode, island all would 602 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: lose one to each. 603 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: Okay, the net outcome of that is that. 604 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 1: Trump twenty twenty four would have won eleven more electoral votes. 605 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: And if you're out there right now, it means the 606 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris path to win Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania and 607 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: one of the seats in Omaha that split Nebraska seat 608 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: would no longer exist. Isn't this a huge part of 609 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 1: what the fight is right now? That Democrats are staring 610 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: the twenty thirty census in the face and recognizing that 611 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: this could be cataclysmic to their existing electoral college pathways 612 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: to the presidency. 613 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 7: It's exactly that legal immigration and illegal immigration both have 614 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 7: been what props up blue states for decades. California and 615 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 7: New York Illinois, they would not have as many seats 616 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 7: in twenty twenty and in twenty sixteen if they did 617 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 7: not have all the illegal alien population and illegal immigrants. 618 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 7: Those two groups foreign nationals absolutely prop up Democrats in 619 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 7: those big blue states. Here's a fascinating number. California today, 620 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 7: according to the Census, has two hundred thousand fewer people 621 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 7: living in it than it did in twenty twenty. Compare 622 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 7: that to Florida has two million more people than it 623 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 7: did in twenty twenty. That's with all those people because 624 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 7: from these are mostly Joe Biden numbers. Even with Joe 625 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 7: Biden's surge of illegality, the turn against California by American 626 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 7: citizens is tremendous. And if you look overall from state 627 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 7: to state to state, the populations of these big blue states, 628 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 7: with these absolute failed left wing governments which have not 629 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 7: worked and have not managed to there and grow the population, 630 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 7: increase opportunity, lower taxes, you name it, have caused a 631 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 7: lot of them to sit there and run and try 632 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 7: to get out of these states as fast as humanly possible. 633 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 7: And a lot of that will mandate in the twenty 634 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 7: thirty in census and the twenty thirty reapportionment. I'll say this, 635 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 7: if this continues now, this is Bilt without the deportations, 636 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 7: without the self deportations, without the limits of immigration. If 637 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 7: those hit, those numbers could easily surge to thirteen fourteen 638 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 7: to fifteen net loss out of Democrat states, it will 639 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 7: be horrendous for Democrats. And even more so, it means 640 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 7: that the big Blue Wall doesn't matter for electoral politics. 641 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 7: It means that a vice president. J Devan's running for 642 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 7: president for his re election rather than twenty thirty two. 643 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 7: All he would need to do will reach to capture Ohio, 644 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 7: North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Arizona, and you win the presidency. 645 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 7: Pennsylvania doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you lose Georgia, 646 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 7: but it doesn't matter overall. Michigan doesn't matter, with doesn't matter. 647 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 7: Even the hard to reach states Minnesota, New Mexico, New Hampshire, 648 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 7: it doesn't matter. All of that at that point is 649 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 7: just gravy. And it means a decade of Democrats really 650 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 7: having to put all their weight and all their money 651 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 7: in either Georgia, Arizona, or North Carolina, because without those 652 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 7: three states they can't win the presidency. 653 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 4: Ryan, what is your sense right now as it feels 654 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 4: like decisions are still very much being made about what 655 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 4: the administration is going to do in Minneapolis in the 656 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 4: face of this resistance, the sabotage operations. How is Trump 657 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 4: worried about these numbers to the point where he might 658 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 4: change course? Is it important to stay the course or 659 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 4: else the base will abandon him? Well, not entirely, but 660 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 4: you know, how do you assess based on the numbers, 661 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 4: the polling, what's going on in Minneapolis, and what the 662 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: administration needs to do. 663 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 664 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 7: I mean, if you look at the New York Times polling, 665 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 7: the polling that just came out from Siana College, it's 666 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 7: very consistent Americans want Americans think. And this is also 667 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 7: the Yugo poll. Americans believe illegal immigration actually is a 668 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 7: big problem, and they overall approve of Trump's deportation of 669 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 7: the illegal aliens. That was the New York Times Santa Pol. 670 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 7: They don't like how it's being conducted. Back in October, 671 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 7: Fox News released the story that Christy nom and Corey Lewandowski, 672 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 7: her very special advisor, gave basically sideline Tom Homan from 673 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 7: doing deportations. Tom Holman has thirty plus a year career 674 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 7: doing this and understands what it's like out on the field. 675 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,720 Speaker 7: I think sidelining Tom Holman was a big, big mistake 676 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 7: because the poor for Ice was still well above water 677 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 7: when Holman was doing it was in charge. You know, 678 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 7: they've been trying to get these numbers up, which is very, 679 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 7: very important. But the fear of mas deportation has caused 680 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 7: more self deportation than actual mass deportation. Has Trump's gotten 681 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 7: higher numbers, certainly higher numbers in the first term, highest 682 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 7: numbers and US first year in office. However, the damage 683 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 7: that they're doing right now to the to ICE as 684 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 7: an institution is alarming. And Democrats not only want you 685 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 7: now defuind ICE, but they want to price prosecute ICE 686 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 7: officers and members of the cabinet and an administration who 687 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 7: are in charge of ICE. It's very, very dangerous to 688 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 7: give them that political leverage. I think Christy Nomes press 689 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 7: conference was a horror show, and I think that she 690 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 7: did so much damage in the aftermath of this shooting 691 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,760 Speaker 7: that that was actually worse than the shooting itself. 692 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 1: Ryan, Yeah, that's a strong take. We'll get into some 693 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 1: of the some of the fallout of the stories. Again, 694 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to can you just hold your question. 695 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 1: I just want to follow up on this. 696 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 4: Why is Trump circling the wagons then and protecting a 697 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 4: member of the administration, because I have to what you 698 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 4: said was really a catastrophic blunder. Is it just because 699 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 4: Trump doesn't ever want to at this point give the 700 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 4: media what want when they're calling for a scalp I 701 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: mean to. 702 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 7: Me, yeah, I mean, if you look at the Mike 703 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 7: Waltz story. Remember Michae walt Storry from earlier in the administration, 704 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 7: how he had the signal chatting by the Atlantic reporter 705 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,959 Speaker 7: in it. He wasn't fired immediately. It actually bought him time, 706 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 7: probably even though that Trump was looking to get rid 707 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 7: of him. According to many internal reports, is that Trump 708 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 7: wanted to get rid of him, and he realized it 709 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 7: was a mistake nominaing him for this position, and then 710 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 7: when the story leaked, it actually saved him time because 711 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 7: he didn't want to admit that the story was an eyesore. 712 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 7: I think a lot of people have been disappointed Christino 713 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 7: for quite some time. I think that she is I 714 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 7: think that she has made a lot of mistakes and 715 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 7: a lot of enemies inside the administration. I think Corey 716 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 7: Lewandowski being as involved as he has been has been 717 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 7: a big problem for a lot of people in the iman. 718 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,879 Speaker 7: I know people have complained on the higher up saying 719 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 7: Corey has been a very very big, big decision maker 720 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 7: and making a lot of poor judgments. And I know 721 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 7: that Tom Holman has been sidelined for the most part, 722 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 7: which is why Trump decided to send Tom Holman in. 723 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 7: But in response to the shooting, which was a series 724 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 7: of very bad judgments from you know, a lot of people. 725 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 7: Her calling him a domestic terrorist really did tremendous damage 726 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 7: to people who are in the middle. You can't afford 727 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 7: to lose normies on immigration. It is the thing that 728 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,760 Speaker 7: got trumb elected in sixteen and twenty four. And Christy 729 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 7: Nomes's comments, which you could see in your own blue eye, 730 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 7: clear eyes that he was not pointing a gun at 731 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 7: any ice officers, makes people sit their enormies that they're 732 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 7: and say, well, these people are all liars. We can't 733 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 7: trust any of these things. 734 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: Last question for you, Ryan, I think that was all 735 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: well said based on what the data is showing. I 736 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: think the biggest story that is not getting enough attention. 737 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: We talked about the shift in twenty thirty population, how 738 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: the electoral college is going to be set up differently, 739 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: the fact that illegal immigrants are counted for congressional representation 740 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: is to me flagrantly unconstitutional, But it's also a major 741 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: incentive for these people to not be removed and to 742 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: explain why Democrats. 743 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 2: Are acting out as they are. With that being said, 744 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 2: have you. 745 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 4: Seen data, and I know I've asked you this before, 746 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 4: but it's such an underdiscussed story that I. 747 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,080 Speaker 1: Think we need to bring it up constantly. How much 748 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: are Democrats benefiting in terms of raw numbers of congressional 749 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: seats based on illegal immigrant populations being counted for purposes 750 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: of congressional seat apportionment, right? 751 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 7: It Well, it depends on I mean, it's a very 752 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 7: difficult thing, right because you have a district like Media 753 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 7: Basket plays in Brooklyn, which is overwhelmingly illegal immigrants, which 754 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 7: I mean she sits there and says, bring illegals to 755 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 7: my district or I'm gonna lose it. She has said 756 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 7: things like that in public, right, So it's very hard 757 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 7: to sit there and say, oh, there would be an 758 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 7: extra house seat upstateents that are Long Island instead of 759 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 7: in Brooklyn. Overall, they say about five or six if 760 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 7: you kind of move the numbers around those were in 761 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 7: mind that was Pew research. California would have lost, you know, 762 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 7: would have never gained. It's not just about what they 763 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 7: would have lost in twenty twenty, what they would have 764 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 7: never gained in twenty ten and in two thousand. This 765 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 7: illegal alien population overall, it's about a half a dozen 766 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 7: primarily though in very very blue districts, Maxine Waters, Needy 767 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 7: of Basquez. These people who run for office, they need 768 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 7: to get two hundred thousand fewer votes to win a 769 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 7: House seat than people in Ohio, Alabama, and Tennessee. 770 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: What person, I think that's super interesting. What percentage of 771 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: Americans do you think no, that illegal immigrants are counted 772 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: for purposes of congressional seats, because I think it's like 773 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: fifteen or twenty percent. I just don't think most Americans know. 774 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, the same percentage that can name all nines members 775 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 7: of the Supreme Court. It's very low. I mean, it's 776 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 7: just I don't believe that many of the Americans know 777 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 7: this whatsoever. And it is worth getting angry about. The 778 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,040 Speaker 7: Supreme Court is a ruled that it's all persons and 779 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 7: you have to change the constitution or try to fight 780 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 7: it on a different note. But they've sat there and 781 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 7: said you can count them on all persons. I mean, 782 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 7: you could also change the census where you can ask 783 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 7: their citizenship status and that they're illegally in the country, 784 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,720 Speaker 7: and that may make them not want to answer the census, 785 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 7: which would also decrease their numbers. 786 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: Good stuff, as always, Ryan, go check it out. Numbers 787 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: game as a part of the Clay and Buck podcast network. 788 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: He does great work there. The podcast network overall growing fast. 789 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 1: Thanks to you guys. 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Have you looked ahead to the 823 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: forecasts in Miami? Are you preparing to know? 824 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 4: We had to put little Speed in a puff jacket 825 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 4: this morning. And I will say he looks very cute. 826 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 4: If you go on Instagram you'll see or on my 827 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 4: Exit County it's very cute in his puff jacket. 828 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 2: He's like, what is this? What kind of peasant? Where 829 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: is this? 830 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 4: He's used to just being in t shirts and onesies 831 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 4: all the time, giving you an idea. It's frigid here. 832 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 1: We still have ice everywhere, kids are out of school, 833 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people still without power. So we 834 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: certainly are thinking about all of you out there who 835 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: are struggling in different parts of the country. 836 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 2: Miami. 837 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 1: I was looking at this because I saw a headline 838 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be thirty two degrees on Sunday for 839 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: a low in Miami. 840 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 4: I don't know how often it hits freezing in Miami, 841 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 4: but that is how cold the whole country is right now, 842 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 4: as frigid weather has set in, and potentially another big 843 00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 4: snowstorm coming across the East Coast in the day and 844 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 4: weeks in the next week or so. 845 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 1: Okay, several different stories that are out there. I think 846 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 1: it's important for you to understand what is going on. 847 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 1: Reports from CNN that this individual Pretti who was shot, 848 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: had previously been tackled by ice, had his rib broken. 849 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: That is a sign certainly of him having been engaging 850 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: in obstruction of these ice proceedings for a very long time. 851 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,359 Speaker 1: But we got some good audio here that I think 852 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: is significant, and in particular it has to do with 853 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: a go back in time to a year called twenty ten, 854 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: and Barack Obama was speaking about the necessities of applying 855 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: the law and ensuring that people were not being rewarded 856 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: for illegally entering into the country. This was not that 857 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: long ago. I want to find it. This is cut twelve, 858 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: a flashback to twenty ten. If you're thinking to yourself, 859 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: it's really kind of crazy the arguments that are made 860 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: on the left. Now, this was only fifteen years ago 861 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: Obama about borders. 862 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 8: Are those in the immigrants rights community who have argued 863 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 8: passionately that we should simply provide those who are illegally 864 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,279 Speaker 8: with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on 865 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 8: the books, and put an end to deportation until we 866 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 8: have better laws. And often this argument is framed in 867 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 8: moral terms. Why should we punish people who are just 868 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 8: trying to earn a living. I recognize the sense of 869 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 8: compassion that drives this argument, but I believe such an 870 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 8: indiscriminate approach would be both. 871 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 2: Unwise and unfair. 872 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 8: It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally 873 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 8: that there will be no repercussions for such a decision, 874 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 8: and this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration, 875 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 8: and it would also ignore the millions of people around 876 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 8: the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. Ultimately, 877 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 8: our nation, like all nations, have the right and obligation 878 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,359 Speaker 8: to control its borders and set laws for residency and citizenship, 879 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 8: and no matter how decent they are, no matter there 880 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,280 Speaker 8: are reasons the eleven million who broke these laws should 881 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 8: be held accountable. 882 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:15,959 Speaker 2: I mean that was fifteen years ago. 883 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're out there and you're thinking to yourself, 884 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel that long ago that these arguments that 885 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 1: Democrats are making, which are the foundation of their party, 886 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: would be considered radical. And I wanted to play some 887 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: of these cuts too for you, because I do think 888 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 1: it's important to understand what people are saying. Rick Wilson Buck, 889 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,759 Speaker 1: he's the former McCain manager, right campaign manager back in 890 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: the time. 891 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 4: I mean he's been he's been an absolutely insane anti 892 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 4: Trump like he's Trump derangement syndrome number numero uno. 893 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: I mean, he's completely nuts. But yes, he formerly worked 894 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: on the publican poject guy. Yeah, he's one of those 895 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 2: like you know the whole thing, you get it. 896 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: So here he is Buck saying that he wants Steam 897 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: Miller in the Nuremberg trials. 898 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 2: I mean clearly, I mean, this is what he said. 899 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: But I think this is kind of evidence I played 900 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: for you, Obama fifteen years ago. Here's Rick Wilson, former 901 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 1: McCain manager, campaign manager twenty three. 902 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 9: I want Stephen Miller to be the number one in 903 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 9: the Nuremberg trials when this is done. When this is done, 904 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 9: I want Stephen more to be the first one who 905 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 9: has tried and convicted and in dangles. Okay, I want 906 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 9: him to be brought before a court of law because 907 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 9: he is the sole executive that runs all this DHS 908 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 9: is stuff the istapo. 909 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so he wants him hung. I mean, this is 910 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: this is this is kind of the rhetoric that you're 911 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: hearing now. On the left, here's Stephen Colbert, comedian extra 912 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 1: technically hanged by the way, because the word police will 913 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: come for you. 914 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 2: But yes, it's not hung. Hanged. Oh, I think hung 915 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 2: should be the word. 916 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: Here is Stephen Colbert, comedian extraordinariy saying, as part of 917 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: his monologue all about Ice, I do think when we 918 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: talked to Brendan Carr last week, this is something that 919 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: should be looked into you're on public airwaves. If you 920 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: want to have a podcast, say whatever you want. But 921 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 1: this is supposed to be a guy telling jokes. Aha, 922 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: here's Stephen Colbert. 923 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 10: Mass secret police shooting innocent people with impunity in the streets. 924 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 2: Are not victims. 925 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 1: The only way they could ever even be considered close. 926 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 10: To victims is that they are at best weak minded 927 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 10: individuals full of anger who have been led to the 928 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 10: darkness by Donald Trump and are now participating in an 929 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 10: evil system that will stick to them like hot black 930 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 10: tar for the rest of their lives. 931 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 11: Coavino went on complaining, look, Dan, they're trying to portray 932 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 11: border battle agents and ICE agents, es, Gestapo, Nazi, and 933 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 11: many other words. 934 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 10: Yes, do not compare Ice or border patrol agents to 935 00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:58,800 Speaker 10: the Nazis. 936 00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: That's an unfair comparison. 937 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 10: The Nazis were willing to show their faces. 938 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,280 Speaker 2: This is a comedy show. 939 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: Ice agents are Nazis, according to Stephen Colbert. So buck, 940 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:16,640 Speaker 1: I do think it is representative and interesting and worthy 941 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: of true examination. How in the space of basically ten years, 942 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:27,640 Speaker 1: we've gone from both Democrats and Republicans publicly saying pretty consistently. 943 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton said it all during the twenty sixteen campaign, 944 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 1: even if she might not have acted on it. And 945 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: that's a different topic that hey, we've got to get 946 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants out of the country, to wide open borders, 947 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: and if you try to take illegal immigrants out of 948 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: the country, you are the equivalent of Nazis. It is 949 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: a really wild, crazy narrative journey that we have been 950 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: on to reach the arguments of the Democrat Party. 951 00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 4: Now, well, they just say anything that the requirements of 952 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 4: power demand in the moment rights. The great thing about 953 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 4: being a Democrat is that you're never You're never boxed 954 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 4: in by things like principle, consistency or sanity. You have 955 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 4: endless options. What do you have to say now? And 956 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 4: you know, if you've ever argued with somebody this is 957 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,439 Speaker 4: this is real. By the way, if you ever argued 958 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,919 Speaker 4: with somebody who has a number I think they're called 959 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 4: like cluster B personality disorders, but there's a whole narcissistic 960 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 4: personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. 961 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,919 Speaker 2: What you find is a clay. 962 00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 4: You're never actually arguing about a thing, You're just dealing 963 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 4: with a syndrome all the time. If you want to 964 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,839 Speaker 4: talk about something, they want to talk about something else, 965 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 4: or they want to know why you're attacking them, or 966 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 4: why your tone is so aggressive, or why you can 967 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 4: never get to the thing. This is arguing with Democrats, 968 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 4: and this is why being a Democrat is so commonly 969 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 4: associated with mental illness, and more and more I think 970 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 4: kind of just isn't mental illness. But anyway, this is 971 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,440 Speaker 4: what you are dealing with. They will say whatever they 972 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 4: have to say. It doesn't matter what they said yesterday, 973 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 4: and they'll say something else different tomorrow. And what makes 974 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 4: our lives more challenging is living in reality, because yes, 975 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 4: it's good to be right, but also you have to 976 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 4: uphold certain standards and you can't just change the facts 977 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:15,919 Speaker 4: as you see fit. 978 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 2: And that's what they do on the immigration thing. 979 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 4: Clay, the whole Democrat Party until what feels like five 980 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 4: minutes ago, was we want a secure They were hammering Trump. 981 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 4: Can I just just take a moment here, everybody. They 982 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:33,120 Speaker 4: were hammering Trump in the summer of twenty five. 983 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, would that be I'm trying to get them there? 984 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 2: When was the election? 985 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 8: No? 986 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 4: Yes, the summer of summer of twenty four, twenty four, 987 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 4: thank you, summer of twenty four. 988 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:50,319 Speaker 2: They were hammering Trump for not signing on to a 989 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: border security. 990 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 4: Bill that they claim was going to stop all the 991 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,759 Speaker 4: illegals from coming in. Trump has now stopped all the 992 00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 4: illegals from coming in, and he's hitler. This is this 993 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 4: is who we're dealing with. Remember they were saying. 994 00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 2: You don't really care. 995 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 4: You won't even believe the arguments they're making unless you 996 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,920 Speaker 4: go back and read and watch with your own eyes. 997 00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,319 Speaker 2: You don't want the border to be secure. You're not 998 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 2: going along with Biden's border bill. It's insane. 999 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,879 Speaker 4: These people are nuts, Yes, and by that, and then 1000 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 4: I will say there were a lot of stupid Republicans 1001 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,240 Speaker 4: who lined up there too, right, couples. 1002 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,280 Speaker 2: I think one tie was in Oklahoma. 1003 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 1: We haven't forgotten who suddenly said, oh yeah, Congress has 1004 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: to act. And by the way, this is one of 1005 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 1: the downsides of the amount of executive power that is 1006 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: now residing in the White House. If Democrats win in 1007 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, they're gonna run on, hey, yeah, we've 1008 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: got to have border security. 1009 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 2: They'll run and then they'll open the border wide open again. 1010 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 4: I mean, it is one hundred percent gonna happen January 1011 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 4: twenty nine, If they have the ability if they win 1012 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 4: the presidency. Yes, you are absolutely right, but you've reminded me. 1013 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 4: We haven't talked about this and we should get to it. 1014 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 4: This has been so much news and so much going on. 1015 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,919 Speaker 4: Have you seen the Baden switch that my I love 1016 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 4: Virginia as a state, my family. 1017 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, what they have done in Virginia. 1018 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 4: Alison Spanberger ran as like this milk toast moderate. You know, 1019 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 4: she was a mom who was just trying to make 1020 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 4: sure that moms could have a good state to call home. 1021 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 4: That was she and the Democrat legislature now are coming 1022 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 4: in with the full blown Virginia communist manifesto, top to bottom. 1023 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,600 Speaker 4: No more mandatory minimums for a rapist, no more mandatory 1024 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:47,680 Speaker 4: minimums for murder, no more. 1025 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 2: Guns allowed to be had by by lawful. I mean, 1026 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,280 Speaker 2: you go down this list. 1027 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 4: The stuff that they are doing is insane or that 1028 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 4: they want to do, and none of this was talked 1029 00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,560 Speaker 4: about in the actual run up election. This is the 1030 00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 4: classic we say, this is what they do in Virginia, 1031 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 4: this is what they do in Wisconsin, this is what 1032 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 4: they do everywhere. 1033 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 2: They run as, Oh, I'm just a mom, I just 1034 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 2: want good things. I just want good schools, in healthcare. 1035 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,959 Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden they're like comrades, line 1036 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 4: them up against the wall when they get into power. 1037 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 2: This is the Democrat playbook you are seeing it in. 1038 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 4: If we got some Virginia listeners right now, you can 1039 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 4: fill in some of these details. 1040 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 2: But Spanberger the radical. I thought she worked. 1041 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 4: At the CIA, and you can trust that she's not 1042 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,120 Speaker 4: a you know, she's not a crazy lady. She's just 1043 00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 4: a vessel for the crazy clay, just like Joe Biden was. 1044 00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 4: Joe Biden was a vessel for the crazy and he 1045 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 4: was blue collar Joe from Delaware. 1046 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:41,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1047 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 4: No, it's actually crazy. It's actually completely and utterly bonkers. 1048 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: Where where democrats what Democrats run on, and then what 1049 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: they do. Whatever you want to say about Trump, and 1050 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: there you can criticize the president across the board. He's 1051 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: doing exactly what he said he was gonna do. 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