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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is the real MVP. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another additionally Around the NFL Podcast. My name

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Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a room

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Speaker 1: Phil Lo Heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rosatal. What's

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Speaker 1: up boys and massive self promotion? Right out of the

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Speaker 1: gate with that money tag? I missed it calling ourselves

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Speaker 1: the m v P. It's a reference to another sport,

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Speaker 1: aligned by another player in another sport. So you the

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Speaker 1: ego list act, come on, you know, unnecessarily a nice

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Speaker 1: popular podcast. Just embrace it for once, you know, be happy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest. I mean, we had a monster day

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Speaker 1: of stories and we couldn't even put out the podcast

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Speaker 1: last night because you just wanted to get that special

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Speaker 1: coat for today in this one male other giant coat,

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Speaker 1: good looking jacket. Look, last time I came in here,

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Speaker 1: it was a polar temperatures. I prepare this time and

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Speaker 1: it's very hot in here now. By the way, what

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Speaker 1: what are we even talking about? There's only one thing

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Speaker 1: that matters. Oh my goodness, Oh Greg Revas. Do the jets? Greg?

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Speaker 1: How about that? I like them? Apples? Mr New England,

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Speaker 1: on your throne of ease, it's kind of fun. I

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Speaker 1: mean after you had already you know, cashed in with

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Speaker 1: your you know, nine to five yesterday I wrote that

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Speaker 1: Revis did you say cash? You know? Really I wrote

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Speaker 1: that Revas post and I couldn't have been more complimentary

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Speaker 1: of the whole thing. It's it's exciting. It's a big

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Speaker 1: it's a big loss for the Patriots, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: But it does make the a f C East more fun.

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Speaker 1: And we're not shocked. When we left the podcast studio

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Speaker 1: last time, we thought the Jets are the favorites. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into Revers more. But yeah, it's just, uh,

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Speaker 1: you're loving it. I was loving it. I was so

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Speaker 1: happy to hear it. I clapped my hands together already, uh,

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Speaker 1: in a very demonstrative way when I heard, uh, what

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Speaker 1: what had went down? That the Jets got Reevas are

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Speaker 1: bringing them back for a big deal. So I'm really

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Speaker 1: happy my free agency's done. Even even the fact that

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Speaker 1: oh wait, Ryan Fitzpatrick Geno Smith is still my quarterback,

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Speaker 1: won't be able to dim this. We got we got

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Speaker 1: Revers back, and we're very happy. And that's only one

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Speaker 1: of the big big news items. This is another mark

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Speaker 1: or Mark with the jacket off now throwing me off.

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Speaker 1: I told you was the temperatures rising in here. Um,

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Speaker 1: here we go. We got a ton of news to

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Speaker 1: get to because as another big pressure news drop coming

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Speaker 1: the wildest free agent signing period ever. Right at one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: multiple trades go go down, multiple signings. This is insane,

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Speaker 1: This is crazy. What the what? There clearly is no

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Speaker 1: offseason and and the NFL is moving the needle right now.

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Speaker 1: The biggest sport in the country and it's also the

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Speaker 1: biggest story right now is the NFL. It's crazy. I

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Speaker 1: day after the lockout ended, when all the signings happened.

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Speaker 1: but for something off the field and transactions. To have

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Speaker 1: of famers in Heloti Nada and Jim Jimmy Graham traded

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Speaker 1: really still in their prime, still playing well. One of

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Speaker 1: those guys going to the defending NFC champion Seahawks from

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Speaker 1: one NFC team to another. I mean, four pro bowler,

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Speaker 1: It's just insane. You could go ahole three years without

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Speaker 1: having three trades that big and and TV behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: You are the number one fanboy of Russell Wilson. You

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Speaker 1: love his sexy d balls and all that. Uh, this

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Speaker 1: has gonna be a big moment for you. It is.

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Speaker 1: It is a big moment. I officially show to embrace

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Speaker 1: the fact that, yes, you know what, if a team

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Speaker 1: to stay with him. This cannot be just a fanciful fit.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's a very vulnerable position to

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Speaker 1: Dropper Richard Sherman and Russell Bobby Wags. Well, you missed

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Speaker 1: just because they're frustrated over one play. This is where

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Speaker 1: it all starts going down. You mean, maybe he's like

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Speaker 1: got a lot to wait, what TD, We got a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to. So let's do some news. We

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Speaker 1: didn't bring Sam in here to be a chip on

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Speaker 1: we will be getting into the chip the chip Kelly

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Speaker 1: press conference in PROMPTU press conference that was held on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: The guy is, as my late grandmother would say, a riot.

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Speaker 1: He's a riot. We didn't bring here to be a

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Speaker 1: start with the big deal. And obviously the biggest news

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Speaker 1: the mailman, Chris Westling. Your initial take when you learned

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Speaker 1: to the trade and the parameters, Well, Greg joked that

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Speaker 1: And immediately after the report, the trade goes down. You know,

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Speaker 1: the crown prince in the NFL. How about he does

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Speaker 1: Every all these other big name quarterbacks always restructure their salaries.

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Speaker 1: Now he refused to restructure his deal. This could have

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Speaker 1: of these times. So you're right, they they had a

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Speaker 1: great thing going with Revas, but you kind of trust

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Speaker 1: that Belichick and them they'll find a way to get

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Speaker 1: it in. Their pass rushers are better. I like their

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Speaker 1: defense overall. I think one thing, like the way Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Graham just tipped the scales in in Seattle's favor in

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Speaker 1: the NFC, because it's just a great team getting that piece.

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Speaker 1: That's how I felt about Reva's going to New England

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Speaker 1: last year and what Belichick was able to do creatively

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Speaker 1: at the back end of that defense. You can't just

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Speaker 1: replace that. And you you said weeks ago that they

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Speaker 1: prioritize mccordy over Revas, and you're right. But there are

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Speaker 1: major questions for New England in terms of like how

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Speaker 1: do you duplicate what just happened that It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be easy. Those years they didn't have Moss and others,

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Speaker 1: they didn't go to they didn't win Super Bowl, but

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Speaker 1: they weren't winning. Yeah, but they weren't winning Super Bowls

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Speaker 1: unless Malcolm Butler made a catch. I'm not giving Darrell

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Speaker 1: Reavus some magical beans that he somehow made. It made

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler make that play. It's like they've i think

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Speaker 1: their recipe and they've been a nine conference championship games.

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Speaker 1: Like in that span, the Jets have been the one,

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Speaker 1: right and so they've been to nine. Is just they

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Speaker 1: put themselves in the mix every year, and you never

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Speaker 1: know how it's gonna shake out. This point might come

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Speaker 1: up again in a minute, but we're twenty three hours

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Speaker 1: into the news. There are at least three or four

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Speaker 1: players in the Patriots Super Bowl roster, key players who

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Speaker 1: weren't even on the team in October. You wonder, by

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Speaker 1: the way, why Greg reference magic beans. When you sit

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Speaker 1: on the throne of ease, those things get fed to you.

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Speaker 1: If they not even a silver spoon, a golden spoon,

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Speaker 1: We're delicious. Moving on, all right, let's talk. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: some of these crazy, crazy trades we already talked about.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham. Now let's talk about the QB for QB

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Speaker 1: swap to end all QB for QB swaps. Sam Bradford

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Speaker 1: heading to the Eagles, and exchange for Nick Foles. There's

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Speaker 1: some draft picks involved here as well. Of the exact specifics,

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Speaker 1: the folds of fourth round pick and the second round

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Speaker 1: pick in to the Rams and exchange for Bradford and

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Speaker 1: the Rams is fifth pick. Greg, I'll start with you here.

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Speaker 1: First of all, did the Eagles give up too much

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Speaker 1: to get Sam Bradford, a guy coming off back to

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Speaker 1: back a c L injuries. I was surprised they gave

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Speaker 1: up so much, so yes, I mean it struck me

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Speaker 1: as strange that they were taking on Bradford's contract and

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Speaker 1: they had to give up the second round pick. It

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Speaker 1: was really that second round pick that blew my mind.

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Speaker 1: And the Eagles do have a condition where if Bradford

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Speaker 1: gets hurt they could get something back, So that surprised me. West,

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Speaker 1: I think put it, well, that look, if he's a

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Speaker 1: if he's the franchise quarterback that they think he is,

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Speaker 1: then it really doesn't matter. But man, that is a

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Speaker 1: big gamble. And Chip Kelly keeps making those gambles. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: allow me a couple of rejoinders here joined hears. The

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Speaker 1: most obvious takeaway is the word by West. The Rams

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Speaker 1: and the Eagles both decided that Sam Bradford held a

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Speaker 1: lot more value than Nick Fools. The Rams weren't giving

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Speaker 1: him up without a second round pick, and the Eagles

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Speaker 1: took on ten million dollars more in salary, And I

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Speaker 1: think most teams would agree, so I would agree. So

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Speaker 1: let's get that out early. And then, second of all,

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Speaker 1: Dan you like to call chip Kelly derisively the genius

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Speaker 1: Ernie Adams, Bill Belichick's right hand man, one of the

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Speaker 1: smartest men in the history of PROFI starting cornerback next

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Speaker 1: year for the Patriots. It's one of his sayings is

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Speaker 1: the number one criteria for being a genius in this

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Speaker 1: league is to get a great quarterback. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford's a great quarterback, but chip Kelly did extensive research,

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Speaker 1: studied everything about Sam Bradford for over a month now,

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Speaker 1: and he's decided Nick Foles isn't a franchise quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: just not. So I can't win in this league with

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Speaker 1: Nick Fools. If what I'm seeing or weaknesses, defensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: are seeing it too, I might be able to win

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Speaker 1: with Sam Bradford. In fact, the Eagles website said, chip

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Speaker 1: Kelly determined that Bradford is a special talent who can

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Speaker 1: make the offense sore. I'm not saying he is or

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Speaker 1: he isn't. But to me, I have no problem with

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Speaker 1: a with a coach going out and saying, this guy

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Speaker 1: is not my franchise quarterback, so let me trade for

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Speaker 1: a guy who I believe has that potential. When he

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Speaker 1: when the trade first happened, I thought that the assumption

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Speaker 1: that Bradford was their long term answer was naive because

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Speaker 1: I thought they might just flip him and move up

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Speaker 1: and get married. I mean, there's a lot of reason

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Speaker 1: to think that it might have been just the first

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Speaker 1: part of it longer trade that we didn't know the

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Speaker 1: end of. But now after what we didn't know what

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Speaker 1: the ramifications and the pick swap were. Later in the

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Speaker 1: way that Chip Kelly spoke today, it is very clear

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Speaker 1: that the website and the research were real. But West,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've watched Sam. I don't care about the injuries.

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Speaker 1: Remove the injuries and the fact that last year we

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Speaker 1: were writing off quarterbacks that had one knee surgery like

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Speaker 1: that all offseason he's had him back to back, But

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Speaker 1: what about what he's done on the field. We've seen

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Speaker 1: little evidence this Chip Kelly oviusly knows way much more. Though. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that if you, if you're Chip Kelly, and

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Speaker 1: you say, Okay, I've got look what I've gotten out

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Speaker 1: of Nick Foles and Mark Sanchez, two guys that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in the NFL don't consider starter caliber,

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Speaker 1: and they're getting as many yards in points per game

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Speaker 1: as just about any team. So you can say, okay,

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Speaker 1: I can take Sam Bradford, who developed a skittish skittishistness, skittishness.

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Speaker 1: He was skittish. He was skittish because they stopped he

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Speaker 1: played behind a bad offensive line and they never surrounded

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Speaker 1: him with surrounding with with good talent. And I have

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Speaker 1: said before those are excuses they shouldn't be allowed. But

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Speaker 1: if you're Chip Kelly, you say, look at this guy's arm.

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Speaker 1: If I, if I put him behind a really good

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Speaker 1: offensive line and my coaching, maybe we can get more

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Speaker 1: out of him. West by the way, Uh, it's skitty

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Speaker 1: number two. Uh Yeah, Mark, you mentioned the press conference

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Speaker 1: where Chip Kelly really uh was tooting the horn of

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford's Uh made the line that we used earlier

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Speaker 1: t d drop that the only Chip is me. Chip Kelly,

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Speaker 1: because I'm here to be a chip on the only

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Speaker 1: chip here. There you go. We're gonna keep that. So

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Speaker 1: it was the press. Let's talk about the press conference

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Speaker 1: a little bit, because Chip Saunter is up to the stage,

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Speaker 1: up to the dais and he delivers an impromptu press

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Speaker 1: conference at Philadelphia and has just his his rapport with

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Speaker 1: the Philly reporters is. The way he carries himself is

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Speaker 1: really interesting. Uh So this first of all, people are

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Speaker 1: wondering what happens with the quarterback situation? Bradford Sanchez, Where's

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota? Someone asked him, what's going on with Marcus Mariotta?

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Speaker 1: You guys interested in trading up these deals won't be

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Speaker 1: trading up in the draft Marcus Mariota. Let's dispel that

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Speaker 1: right now. You know, I think that stuff is crazy.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been going with that stuff all along.

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Speaker 1: I think Marcus is the best quarterback in the draft.

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Speaker 1: We will never mortgage our future to go all the

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Speaker 1: way up to go get somebody like that because we

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Speaker 1: have too many other holes that we're gonna take care of.

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Speaker 1: So so there's that, Uh do we buy that? First

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Speaker 1: of all? Oh? Yeah, that I thought all along was

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Speaker 1: just crazy to think that you're moving up from twenty

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Speaker 1: to two or four in the draft and how much

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Speaker 1: you would have to mortgage to give that up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, but as just saying quarterbacks make coaches genius.

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Speaker 1: He believes in Mariota, he recruited him in Oregon. If

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Speaker 1: he believes in why not trade up and get the guy?

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Speaker 1: You know how much it costs to trade up? And

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Speaker 1: I don't I have no idea. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: I do believe him because I think at this point

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Speaker 1: we now believe Chip Kelly is now capable of anything

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Speaker 1: like that. He could just walk, you know, he's been

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Speaker 1: so crazy that we're just like, wow, he could do anything.

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Speaker 1: But it would be insane to bring in Bradford like this,

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Speaker 1: pump him up, have the press comets, do a month

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Speaker 1: of research, try to acquire him, give up the picks.

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Speaker 1: That's where it really gets me. And then to trade

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Speaker 1: him for Mariota. It's just sort of hard to imagine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like we've learned in the last since the trade until

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Speaker 1: now shuts the door I think on them. If they

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Speaker 1: changed that now would just be devious because of what

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Speaker 1: the way they floated this thing. But the way you

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Speaker 1: think he might be devious. No, no, well, I just

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Speaker 1: don't think at this point the way they the way

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Speaker 1: they pr this thing. But it was at the combine

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Speaker 1: where everyone attached to the Amams was telling us, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're counting on Sam Bradford. He's our guy. We would

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Speaker 1: never delete him from the roster. They are. Well, listen,

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Speaker 1: I just don't think there's a reason to be skeptical

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Speaker 1: of anything any one of these people say. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, certainly including Chip Kelly, he's the best. Let's

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Speaker 1: play that one more time. Just listen closely. Here won't

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Speaker 1: be training up the draft. Laugh. He doesn't really answer

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Speaker 1: the question. Laugh. In fairness, he doesn't really say no exactly. Laugh.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't fake fake, So you're the boy, and it was dismissive,

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Speaker 1: which is what his entire press contest. You know what,

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Speaker 1: But those guys, those reporters, especially some of the ones

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Speaker 1: he was getting angry at, those are the most dismissive

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Speaker 1: guys in the world, saying he is also defend that's

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Speaker 1: why they're a good match. Known is defending the reporters

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Speaker 1: of Philadelphia, the scribes. Although I'm sure they're some I

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Speaker 1: don't know any of them, but Chip Kelly is coming

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Speaker 1: back at them. It was like it's like a snark

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Speaker 1: fest from both sides, and Kelly, I think is snarkier

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Speaker 1: than any of them. Uh. And this is how this

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Speaker 1: press conference ended. By the way this he's like, he's

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Speaker 1: seriously like Varsity Blues two, even Bluer. There's a consistency

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Speaker 1: in my behavior. The fact that it doesn't drive with

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Speaker 1: your schedules is what I think the issue is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you didn't speak after because we didn't have final say

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Speaker 1: last year. Pieces are fitting together on the puzzle, right.

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Speaker 1: I think part of Chip Kelly that people don't get.

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Speaker 1: He to me when I watched him, he just seems

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Speaker 1: like a New England guy. Like that that you're you're

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Speaker 1: saying dismissive is like I can tell that guy is

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Speaker 1: from New hamp He's just like he's Jim Calhoun. I

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Speaker 1: don't I don't think it's I see. That's it. Whenever

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Speaker 1: anyone has an issue with Chip Kelly, it's here's what

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Speaker 1: people don't get. It's not what I don't get. I

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Speaker 1: think he's an incredibly talented football coach. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: if he's a genius twelve non genius coaches made the

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Speaker 1: playoffs last year. He wouldn't say it, but who, I

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Speaker 1: don't care what you who wrote bigger puff pieces about

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Speaker 1: him than usn't to me, He's delivered. That's the part

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Speaker 1: I don't get about the Philadelphia fans getting so critical,

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Speaker 1: Like he had twenty seven touchdowns and two interceptions in

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Speaker 1: the season with Nick Foles. That's a goddamn miracle. That

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Speaker 1: is amazing. No one's saying he's not a talented coach.

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Speaker 1: It's just so give him so I give him a

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Speaker 1: little benefit of the doubt. This trade is a little crazy.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten a lot of benefit of the doubt from

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Speaker 1: the start and up till now, and we'll continue to

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's saying he's not a good coach

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Speaker 1: or he's not talented. But am I ready to make

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Speaker 1: Sam Bradford the comeback player of the year. No, what

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Speaker 1: was the knock on Bill Belichick as Giants defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: as Brown's coach, and even early in his Patriot's career,

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Speaker 1: he was why are we this is it? We're already

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Speaker 1: calling Chip Kelly because I've seen a lot of similarities

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Speaker 1: between them. Bill Belichick was knocked as a genius nerd,

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Speaker 1: lacking charisma in any kind of soft touch with the

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Speaker 1: media and the public. I just like and he admits

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Speaker 1: he made a ton of mistakes in Cleveland. It helped

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Speaker 1: him lose a job. I mean, it's not just be

646
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Speaker 1: a genius and the EXUS knows you have to learn

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Speaker 1: how to handle the other part of the job. It's

648
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: you're not just a coach. If you're a head coach,

649
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Speaker 1: you have a lot more like fore hours into the

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Speaker 1: new league here, I don't think he's done some kind

651
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: of haphazard thing that he's messed up their roster. I

652
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Speaker 1: think it is just I'd agree with that. I think

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Speaker 1: the part where they really stressed how similar the offense

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Speaker 1: was at Oklahoma was the part that really said it

655
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Speaker 1: to me that this is the guy they want, that

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Speaker 1: they they really believe what Bradford did at Oklahoma and

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Speaker 1: de Marco Murray, maybe they'll try to they're trying to

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Speaker 1: get him too. Reportedly, uh, that that was what he saw.

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00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly saw Bradford in a system and he thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I've seen him do it, he can do it, and

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Speaker 1: I like that he's original and he's not afraid to

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Speaker 1: do it, and that he's a jerk because we kill

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Speaker 1: all the boring coaches, so he's not boring. I like

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Speaker 1: there's an interesting dichotomy in the NFL because football has

665
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: an extremely conservative culture. Yes, it doesn't like new ideas,

666
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Speaker 1: and anytime a coach comes into the league with innovation,

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Speaker 1: they get they get derided by analysts, other coaches. A

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00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: lot of the cover your ask coaches don't like to

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Speaker 1: see guys coming in. But it's also the most innovative

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Speaker 1: of American sports and it's always getting revolutionized all the time.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's the interesting part about Chipkin. I

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Speaker 1: just think one last thing. I know, Dan's spinning hands

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Speaker 1: him and it's like a lot a lot happened with

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Speaker 1: offense and pistol and read option the year before Kelly

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Speaker 1: was even in the league. I mean, it's not like

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Speaker 1: he's the only person that brings these concepts of the league.

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00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: And it's not that everyone dismisses him. There are plenty

678
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: of long research pieces that describe how there there are

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Speaker 1: definitely people that will stand behind him no matter what

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Speaker 1: he does wrong, and there are people that will rip

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Speaker 1: on him no matter what he does right. There are

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00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: people on our airwaves saying he will never win a

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl because his system just does not work in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. All right, let's touch on the other Eagles

685
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: news out there. They seem to be in the headlines

686
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: with multiple things every day. Byron maximil Byron Maxwell joins

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Speaker 1: the team on a six year, sixty million dollar deal

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00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: that includes million guaranteed for the first three years. And

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00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: then something that came down shortly before we came up

690
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Speaker 1: to do the podcast, former Chargers running back Ryan Matthews

691
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: on a plane to Philly will sign a three year,

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Speaker 1: twelve million dollar deal with the Eagles. It's all according

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Speaker 1: according to rap sheet, and of course, uh, Greg Ryan

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Speaker 1: Matthews is the backup choice after the Eagles are spurned

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Speaker 1: by Frank Gore. Your boy, oh that was great as

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Speaker 1: much as well. I spent like five minutes talking about

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Speaker 1: what a great location, uh in Philadelphia was for Gore.

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Speaker 1: But Indianapolis is even better. We'll talk about I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's true, we'll talk about it a little later. Right,

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Speaker 1: you go to Tennessee and Greg Black, Frank Gore is

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Speaker 1: just polished up as Hall of Fame. Now, Ryan Matthews

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00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: is not as complete a player as Gore. But we've

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Speaker 1: talked about before if there was a Pro Bowl position

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Speaker 1: for first and second down back, he's wildly talented. They

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Speaker 1: keep signing guys that get injured. You know, they also

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00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: signed Walter Thurman. I don't know about the strategy, just

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Speaker 1: like sign all of Philadelphia's leftovers in the secondary, Maxwell's

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00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: Seattle's leftover. Sorry about that. Uh. And they're they're supposedly

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Speaker 1: going to be interested in Brandon Browners, so we'll see

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Speaker 1: about that. If I'm the Eagles, I'd rather have Ryan

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00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: Matthews than Frank Gore anyway, at the stage of their

712
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Speaker 1: respective careers over the last two years. If Chip Kelly's

713
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: looking for a north and south runner over the last

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Speaker 1: two years, who's been better north and south than Ryan Matthews?

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Speaker 1: You can count him on one hand. Kelly is investing

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Speaker 1: a lot in guys that have injury history. But that

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Speaker 1: was my first feeling too when I started like, and Greg,

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Speaker 1: you have a personal connection with Gore, you love him? Uh,

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Speaker 1: the inconvenient truth. I don't quite get why Gore has

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Speaker 1: been such a hot uh commodity on the market. He's

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Speaker 1: thirty two. I know he runs for eleven hundred yards

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Speaker 1: every year. But how many you know, thirty two thirty

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Speaker 1: three year old running backs are effective in this league.

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Speaker 1: Give me Ryan Matthews, a guy was with with more

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00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: upside that can be around long. Because Ryan Matthews has

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Speaker 1: had one year in his career that's as good as

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Speaker 1: any year of Frank Gore's career. That's why, and he

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Speaker 1: hasn't shown the fall off on tape. I think Chip

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00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Kelly looks at what Frank Gord did last year in

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Speaker 1: he sees a very effective starter that can do a

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Speaker 1: little bit of everything. Well, I think with Frank Gore,

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00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 1: you know, we don't talk as much about the intangibles,

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Speaker 1: but he's a team leader and he's considered one of

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Speaker 1: the absolute best pass blocking running backs in the league.

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Speaker 1: Smart player, and you can't. You have to have players

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Speaker 1: that are gonna buy in the Chip Kelly systems. So

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Speaker 1: maybe more mature type players to dance point to dance

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Speaker 1: point before about revis versus Maxwell, though, like you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars over the next couple of years from Maxwell.

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Speaker 1: This is where you know, Chip Kelly, the GM is

741
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: gonna be tested. Is signing Brandon Graham, signing these defensive players.

742
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: It's a lot of responsibility for a coach to suddenly

743
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Speaker 1: be a GM, and he's taken some big swings here

744
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: on defense. Moving forward, the Lions have made a big

745
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: move after losing in Dominican Sue. They acquire Heloti Nada

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Speaker 1: in a trade with the Ravens. According to Burt Rear,

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00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: Baltimore receives fourth and fifth round draft picks in return

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Speaker 1: for Nada, which Mark Sessler that seems like a pretty

749
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: nice deal for the Lions, who are recovering nicely for

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Speaker 1: from losing their key players Sue Well, I mean are

751
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: around the NFL. In house. Lions fan Kevin Patrick has

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00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: been talking for weeks and months about the Lions moving

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00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: to a three four and this would be, you know,

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00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: a perfect building block for that. And you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many more years Nada has left, but

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00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: he's certainly played well last year for big chunk of

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00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: the season, So it's a good pickup. And I mean, also,

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00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: if you lose Sue, you've got to turn around, and

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00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: they've fairly gone to you gotta turn around and plug

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: that in with some reliable bodies. Nice recovery by Martin

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00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: Mayhew the Lions GM after Sue leaves. But I don't

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00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: think you can analyze this trade without making the point

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00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: that Sue is still an ascended talent twenty years old,

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00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: all pro and not as going to be thirty one.

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00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: He's probably inching towards the decline face the Lions offered

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00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: to make and Dominicans, who the highest paid defensive player

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00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: in NFL history by far. So it's not that the

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00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: Lions did anything wrong trying to in trying to keep him.

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Speaker 1: That the Dolphins just blew them out of the water

770
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: by a couple of million, and you know that was

771
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: that was it? Not a you know, the thing that

772
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: should be said. He only has one year left on

773
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: his contract, so it's it's it's a cheap deal for them.

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00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: I guess they only give up too late round picks,

775
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: but it's also a short term deal. He's making eight

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00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: million dollars. I just worry about any situation where Ozzy

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00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: Neosom is making the decision. And I know they're deep

778
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: at defensive tackle, they have Brandon Williams, they just drafted

779
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: Journey and but I'm a little worried about any situation

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Speaker 1: where Ozzy Newsom is like, I'm gonna take eight and

781
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: a half million dollars of dead money on my cap

782
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: to say goodbye to Hellodi Nada. That's a little freaks

783
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: me out a little. Yeah, I think I think it's

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00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 1: the whole picture. If you're Baltimore, that not a would

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00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: not come down off his sixteen million cap hits smartly.

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00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Now we don't, right, So you didn't want to pay

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00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: him that it was gonna be eight million salary and

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00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: that's a lot to pay when you're confident in Brandon

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Speaker 1: Williams and Timmy. Journey's fair all day long on the

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00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: Ravens Twitter feed, which has annoyed us in the past

791
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: many times, but it was halftag in Azzy we trust,

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00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 1: and that's would that would strike me as wild. It's

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00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: it's pretentious, except the only thing I'd say versus other

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00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: fan bases of teams with younger gms and younger coaches

795
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: where they're freaking out, it's like, wait, but we can

796
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: trust Ozzy knew some He's done this for a decade

797
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: plus and he we know that when he makes these

798
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: decisions there for good reasons. Don't need a bunch like

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Speaker 1: high school kids on a Twitter feed telling me about

800
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: any day would better if you just turned Twitter off.

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00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: That is some serious Ravens Twitter. He total the entire

802
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: comprehensive Twitter, not the Ravens, but they're a big part

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Speaker 1: of it. Azzi does seem to get lost in the

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Speaker 1: best GMS discussion too much. I mean kind like like

805
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Speaker 1: he gets brought up as, oh, we have to include

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00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: Azzi instead of maybe he is the best. Uh so, yes,

807
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: we mentioned the Lions. Let's talk about their former star

808
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: defensive player and Dominquan Sioux, who made that deal with

809
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins official on Wednesday. It is a six year,

810
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: one d and fourteen million dollar contract, sixty million of

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Speaker 1: a guarantee that makes him the richest defensive player in

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Speaker 1: the history of the NFL, sir using with J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watts signed last year. I thought it was funny the

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Speaker 1: speaking of team Twitter feeds the Dolphins. Uh. They tweeted

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Speaker 1: a picture of Sue walking in the hallway looking at

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00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: this big thing on a wall. It was like two

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00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: Lombardi trophies in the message we we house champions here

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00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: or something's like wow, your last title was like four

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00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: years ago. But whatever, big move for the Dolphins. Can't

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Speaker 1: get on them. They had the introductory press conference. They

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Speaker 1: had Joey Fielden sitting in the front road, didn't even

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Speaker 1: get up on the dais here we go, Dolphins. You

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00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: gotta Suey s West. I just laughing at he said, Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: your last championship was forty years ago. My team that

825
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: was even longer than that. But come on, and you

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Speaker 1: had to get rid of Odrick and starts to get

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Speaker 1: Sue and Heartline and Gibson and guys you don't really want.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's a great move, but it's it

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Speaker 1: can only be so great a move when you're paying

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Speaker 1: him twenty million dollars a year. It's like the there's

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Speaker 1: nothing he can do but live up. Like the best

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00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: he can do is just be how he's been in

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00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: and it's like a B A B minus, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. You're not gonna get any special value

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Speaker 1: out of this. The Dolphins doctors that way back when

836
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: decided Drew Brees wasn't healthy enough to be this team's quarterback,

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00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: got us here desperate year after year. Maneuvers was just

838
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago that the Dolphins have to

839
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: swing to the for the fences with too much free

840
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: agency noise. Chip Kelly compared Sam Bradford to that breeze deal.

841
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: By the way, that's your only chance to get franchise

842
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: quarterbacks is when they're on a big, big disc. Kelly.

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00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: One of my favorite subplots that's growing and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to the new season, is I used to be

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Speaker 1: the guy that got on Chip Kelly is the genius

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00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: cessler turning it. I'm willing to forgive. He has me

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00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: a little agitated today. You're a little bit a little

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Speaker 1: scorn lover, because let's be honest, you were the number

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Speaker 1: one Chip Kelly cheerleader just a couple of years ago.

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00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: That's true, the same, but then when you moved on

851
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: to Gus Bradley. Of course, famously, I want to talk

852
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: about another coach, hold on laser lazy or of course,

853
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: what are you saying to your fans? And I realized,

854
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: this isn't the first team that's ever done this. Thank you,

855
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: you have Joe, Phil, but you have like fifty five

856
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: people from your organization sitting up there with Sue and

857
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: philbin Is just sitting down in the front row with journals.

858
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: What are you telling your fans? It's a great it's great,

859
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: You're right, it's it's such an image it really I

860
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: want to get a good picture of it because it

861
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: feels like that should be the cover of their team

862
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: brochure this year film and sitting in the do you

863
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: have a tape recorders? It just isn't. I wondered if

864
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: he had to like sneak in, like where's your credential?

865
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: But I'm the coach, I would let's just say in

866
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: in defense of the Dolphins, we again we agree it

867
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: was a good signing. Obviously, Sue one of the him

868
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: and Rebus are maybe the only two sure things in

869
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: the in the free agency class. But uh, and the

870
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: reason it makes sense to me and the reason West

871
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: you were saying that Jets don't have a quarterback and

872
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: they don't so the Reeve's move, maybe you could say, well,

873
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You don't can't really say with

874
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: the Dobums because they believe in Tannehill. He's shown a

875
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: you know, appreciable gains each year. So if you get

876
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive players in the world and

877
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: you stick them on your d line and then you

878
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: hope Ryan Tannehill makes the leap and the a f C.

879
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: East is you know, again clocks ticking on old Tommy

880
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: Pats you know, take at it. They got a shot.

881
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: It's great. I've always been a fan of the AFC

882
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: East and but it's been a would be but no,

883
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. But it's been a lame division.

884
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: I always kind of think, like, does everyone think that

885
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: the a f C East is the second or third?

886
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's always a lame division. This one. Now

887
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: it's back. I don't know if it ever was there

888
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: a one quarterback division moving forward? Alright, so let's talk

889
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: about some more retirements. What we have. Patrick will is retired.

890
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: We talked about that last night. Was weird. Uh m

891
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: j d retired But that kind of made sense. But

892
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: you know, father time catches up all of us, including

893
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and the Patriots. Now someone's that don't don't

894
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: make as much sense. And we'll start with the Steelers.

895
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: Linebacker Jason Worlds, who is twenties seven years old, was

896
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: staring at a new contract and free agency that probably

897
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: would have gotten about fifteen million guaranteed. Instead, in a

898
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: shocking move West you were I think working last night,

899
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: he announces that he's walking away from the game. He's

900
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: gonna get more involved with the church. That he's uh

901
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: that he's uh involved with Oh how did this happen?

902
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: So shocking that I took a much more conservative approach

903
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: to reporting this story than our editing desk did. I

904
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: wanted to know, are we sure that this guy is

905
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: World's agent? Because I can't believe that this guy's retiring

906
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: when he has an opportunity for transformative wealth. I mean,

907
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: he got nine million last year into the transition tag,

908
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: but come on, you've got three or four more years.

909
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: Probably would have had about million or something. He already

910
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: has transformative wealth. I guess if you do your money

911
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: and handle your money, well, he should have enough money

912
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: to live comfortably anyway. But this would have put him.

913
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: This would have been the one where you could like

914
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: take care of future generations of worlds. Yeah, and and

915
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: the report came in today that he's going to work

916
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: for the Jehovah's Witnesses. Good luck to him on that front. Um.

917
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of Glenn Coffee Flummer,

918
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: forty Niners running back third round pick who walked away

919
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand and ten to explore a career in religion.

920
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: So the different similar The difference was you can't make

921
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 1: a stronger statement about that it's not about the money

922
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: than than being literally being a free agent ready to

923
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: sign a check for twenty million dollars. I mean, that's

924
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: someone that's putting in his convictions way ahead of what

925
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: most people would ever consider the most famous Jehovah's witness

926
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: of all time. Anybody know Jehovah? Yeah, sideshow, you know,

927
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: behind the glass case? No idea. Michael Jackson as a child. Yeah,

928
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: I mean I think West rode a nice column here

929
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: on him. But it's like, what I don't think Michael Jackson, No, no,

930
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: no about worlds? But you just dismissed me entirely there.

931
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: How about that was a nice little nug But how

932
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: about how about the Titans were Wasn't he their top target?

933
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: It's just like anyone. People will do anything to avoid

934
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: joining the Titans. We're just looking at it through a

935
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: certain lens, though, we're looking at it through a worldly

936
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: gains lens. And I think he's saying, world I don't

937
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: care about that. No, it's cool, we can't. Maybe we

938
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 1: don't understand. I'm just curious why you think I would

939
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: know you. I thought you were an MJ fan, But

940
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: are you is the question. I am, but not Yeah,

941
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: I bet you don't even know what religion Russell Wilson

942
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: is no idea. All right, we move on. He is Christian,

943
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: That's all I say. Would have been somewhat obvious to you.

944
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, huge God fan, that's my guy. Man. I've

945
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: been a couple of times like I said, Oh God,

946
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: here we go. Moving on more retirement stuff. Jake Locker,

947
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: bigocker right now. Jake Locker has done the two thousand

948
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: eleven number eight overall pick, just thirty career appearances with

949
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: the tattoo wounds, uh injuries every year that he played

950
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 1: in the league. He just walks away from the game

951
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: after much reflection and discussion with my family. And uh,

952
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: West got a little upset with me because I didn't

953
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: uh here West had said that, oh, maybe he'll go

954
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: back to baseball. Uh. And then I retweeted someone else

955
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: from an outside outlet that had the same thought. West

956
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: had it first. So Chris, maybe Jake Locker will go

957
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: back to baseball. Yeah, that was a clown move. But

958
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: I saw Sassler retweeted some other site last night on

959
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: the world ten minutes after we had Oh I did, Yeah,

960
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: the world, what a world? A lot of free agency.

961
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: He go on the listeners starting to deduce, is that

962
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: anyone that's attached to this operation on any level when

963
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: you're not here, needs to only be plugged into Greg West,

964
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: Dan or myself. You can't have anything else happening in

965
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: your life other than what they're You're trying to smoke

966
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: us out of here. It is seventy nine thousand degrees.

967
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: The most insulting part of this, West marks on his

968
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: I got the vapors thing again the paperwor I got

969
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: the vapors? Why is it? It's like it was like

970
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: a forty degree ship. It feels like a producer trigger move.

971
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: That's great. What's going on with the heat situation? No idea, guys.

972
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: We're working on it sometimes and it's gonna roll with it. Guys. Conditions,

973
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: playing the conditions, that's all. It is. The most insulting

974
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: part of this whole locker news is that the Angels

975
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: GM who owns the right to to locker and baseball,

976
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: or at least the quote last night saying we have

977
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: no interest. I don't. I don't think he was gonna

978
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: go to He's like, what releases rights? If he wants

979
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: to be we're not signing him. He's just hey, hey, hey,

980
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: I guess he's an injury liability whatever sport you play.

981
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick Willis makes sense because he said his

982
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: feet no longer allow him to play football. And Jake Locker,

983
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: I think, was just thinking I cannot stay on the

984
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: field for more than five games without getting hurt. I'm

985
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: kind of taking more. I'm getting no offers. I think

986
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: people wanted that. There were report that some teams wanted him.

987
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: Jake McCown would feels fake to me. Everyone all these guys,

988
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: all these bums are getting a ton of money. I

989
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: wink he could have got something. I don't know, but

990
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: there was a rash of like under thirty retirements. I

991
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: think there are people were wondering what that's all about,

992
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: and we're not allowed to make a guess. I don't

993
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: think it mine. My strong guess is that you have

994
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: to do it on a case by case basis. I

995
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: don't think that just because Jake Locker is walking away,

996
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: Jake Jackson world is walking away. I mean, I don't

997
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: know that they're connected in any Does anyone want to

998
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: get up on their soapbox because I saw it a

999
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: lot yesterday, then dropped the line, oh can I get

1000
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: a piano for this? I respect player X. They're walking

1001
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: away from the game before the game walked away from him,

1002
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: turned the stristopher walking all right, we get it. Yeah,

1003
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: it's a nice movie. If a person that tweeted then

1004
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: but there was see, there are a lot of people

1005
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: people don't know how to handle what it breakups in general.

1006
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: I think Dan's really hitting on the Twitter point that

1007
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: everyone has to chime in with everything. Everybody has to say.

1008
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: Here's good for Patrick Willis. It's it's kind of like,

1009
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, my I really hope they recover that kidnapped child,

1010
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine that pain. It's like, okay, well,

1011
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: it's like, who is hoping that the child is not

1012
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: going to heaven? It was not everyone who in the

1013
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: other day in a post because he didn't know how

1014
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: to get out of the post capped it off with

1015
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: our thoughts and prayers. I didn't say prayers. I said

1016
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: thoughts and I was I was genuinely feeling bad the

1017
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: guy got shot. I'm just saying saying, I don't think

1018
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: you said I thought you wouldn't go to your car,

1019
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: closed the door roll up the windows and stop and pause,

1020
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: meditate and think about this person situation at all. A well,

1021
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: we're here talking about Peeves. How do you feel about

1022
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: the mute button on Twitter? I love it, has to

1023
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: use it a few times this week that I normally

1024
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: I like it, but I think it's a cop out.

1025
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: I used to unfollow people and some of them were

1026
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: almost friends of mine, and they would get mad at

1027
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: me and stuff. But I just felt like that's more

1028
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: honest than than I'm all right everything on special occasions,

1029
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: and believe me, there are occasions when you need amen.

1030
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: Moving forward, the Chicago Bears, it looks like they're gonna

1031
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: have Jay Cutler behind center again. A lot of people thought,

1032
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: I never quite bought into this, because you're gonna dump

1033
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, who's you know, painting the ass obviously, but

1034
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: there's but then you're gonna go get Jake Locker out

1035
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: of retirement of something. Who wins in that case anyway?

1036
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: So Ryan Paced, the new GM came out, told reporters

1037
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: at a press conference on Wednesday, we went through the

1038
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: process of third thoroughly evaluating the roster, and we're moving

1039
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: forward with Jake Cutler. With Jay, I went first name,

1040
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: which just tells you that there's a connection there. Jay

1041
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: is our starting quarterbacks, so Greg, this is uh, it

1042
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: looks like we're gonna have one more year of Jay

1043
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I think we're gonna have to I'm going

1044
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: to translate that quote for you quote. No one would

1045
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: take this contract that the previous administration signed, and we

1046
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: have no choice but to keep Jacob. We're eating the

1047
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: duty or he's not really lying. I mean they're they're right,

1048
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: he's their starting quarterback because they have no choice. I

1049
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: had to hit the old dictionary dot com a few

1050
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: seconds ago look up the opposite of galvanize, because they

1051
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: just disheartened their fan base. We just moved. I'd sweet

1052
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: yesterday that the Bears were the loser of free agency

1053
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 1: because they have Cutler and the other thirty one teams

1054
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: are the winners because they don't have Cutler. And the

1055
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: response was, oh, man, you're gonna have to block Bears

1056
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: fans all day. I don't have to block a single

1057
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: Bears fan they know. I think every new regime should

1058
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: be allowed to remove or eliminate one move by the

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00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: previous wait because in some sport has that NBA has

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00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: that the amnesty clause, they get to do that. Well

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00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: they basically they used to be able to amnesty a player, right, Okay,

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00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean this is trustman comes in, has one great

1063
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: here with the team. They decide, oh, you know what,

1064
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,280
Speaker 1: he can fix ja color because they knew he wasn't fixed.

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00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: We'll give him more time. You sign this ridiculous contract

1066
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 1: and the only the timing again kills him because when

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00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: you know you want to get out, there's no one

1068
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: to go get It's it's a killer. And I know

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00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: we're not to this portion of the programming, but you

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00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: you were asking for the word what's the opposite of galvanize?

1071
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: And I feel like this picture and maybe we'll put

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00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: it up on the website is gonna do that. Not

1073
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: only for Texans fans. It's Brian Hoyer in a cheap

1074
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: suit signing his contract, but also Mark I feel likes

1075
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: de looks. He looks like a Game Stop employee. It's

1076
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: got to be annoying, though, Is it annoying for for

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00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: you to see? Howyer? I guess you were done with Hoyer. Well,

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00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: I would take Mallet and Hoyer over Cleveland's quarterback scenario

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00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, there are you take it anyway, that's

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00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: not saying a whole lot. Here's a good here's an

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00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: interesting one. Would you take Cutler as his currently paid

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00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: over Mallett and Hoyer, but over McCown Never. I want

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00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: if you don't have a good quarterback, I want a

1084
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: situation you can get out of. Yeah, I would take cover,

1085
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: but I'm the last. You are a huge Cutler apologist.

1086
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: Because he's not on your team, it's easier. I mean no,

1087
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: I've even given up on that. Who who hasn't, But

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00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: I'd still rather have the twentieth best quarterback than the seven.

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00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: So it's like, why not have him? Your dream team

1090
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: is filled with creeps and criminals. Well, and I apologize

1091
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: for taking the shot at Cleveland spring Steen there, but

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00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: he just doesn't really look like doesn't look like an

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00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback to me. That's all I stopped listening to

1094
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: you guys like hashtag we are Texans Bears also gave

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00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: uh what forty million to Purnell McPhee, who is on

1096
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: my list of guys who could get overpaid, So I

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00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: we'll find out if that was over pain. By the way,

1098
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: speaking of are Sandwich bet we didn't really bring it

1099
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: up there are no betting. There's no betting, but it's

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00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: propositions sixty million for Sue we now know. Yeah, I

1101
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: don't know if you're gonna get there with all those

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00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: running backs. Yeah, it's gonna be close, though. Murray is

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00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: the key guy. You know Ingram got a decent I

1104
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a chance if it's if

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00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: Spiller and Murray come through. Uh, here's somebody who got

1106
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of money. That deal, Julius Thomas and the

1107
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars has done. It's a five year contract. Uh.

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00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: That average is nine point two million per season, twenty

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00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: four million guaranteed for a guy that, uh, you may

1110
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: have heard played basketball in college. You know it's a

1111
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: small school. And now he's a guy that plays tight

1112
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: end in the NFL and he's making twenty four million

1113
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: guaranteed on a big contract. Mark, are you convinced? Obviously,

1114
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: we don't. We don't imagine he's gonna have the same

1115
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: type of touchdown production twelve in the last two years

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00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: with Peyton Manning. But is this gonna work? Because you're

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00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: a good person to ask you. You loved the Jags

1118
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: last year. You believe in Borders and the coaching staff.

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00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: And do you think that adding a weapon like this

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Speaker 1: will work for this offense and for Julius Thomas? Well,

1121
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: why don't what you mean by work? But it's not

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00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: going to be. He's a productive player, pro Bowl type player,

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Speaker 1: should just paid. I don't know if he'll be a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl type player. I mean, I want if he

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Speaker 1: wants motivation, he should just log on Twitter, because a

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00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: lot of people seem to think that this guy is

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00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: the one guy who's gonna fall off a cliff. Our

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00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: own Dave Damashek called him just a guy on Twitter

1129
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Speaker 1: about An said it's perfect to go to Jacksonville because

1130
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: he's a Jag. Oh, but I think that they've gone

1131
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: and found themselves, you know, the prototypical playmaking type of

1132
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: tight end, one of your newer types that you want

1133
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: to have as a safety valve and and more for

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Speaker 1: your quarterback. And they have found the quarterback last offseason.

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Speaker 1: So it's a good addition. I mean, but but how

1136
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: do we project in a much lesser offense. I mean,

1137
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: anyone that leaves Peyton Manning is in for a swoon.

1138
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: And in top five yards he had about the same

1139
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: amount of yards last year as Scott Chandler right. He

1140
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: also missed a bunch of games had a high ankle

1141
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: train for half the season. The injuries are part of

1142
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: the part of the story with him, as they would

1143
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: have been on pace on pace to set a touchdown

1144
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: record halfway through the season before those injuries slowed. He

1145
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: played thirteen games, so but he played with it with

1146
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: the high ankles, played through pain. I'm just saying that.

1147
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: Knock a guy for not I mean, your boy Gronk

1148
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: didn't even play in the Super Bowl when he had

1149
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: But he's getting paid like I think he's getting more

1150
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 1: money than Gronk because he made it to the open markets.

1151
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: Fair and if you're the Jaguars, you gotta do what

1152
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: the Raiders don't do. Just over pay for transcendent to

1153
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: No one's paying more right now than the Jags, and

1154
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: I respect him for it. Just go for it, try

1155
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: to get better. Steak there three and thirteen last season.

1156
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: At least eleven losses four years in a row. They're

1157
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: trying to get that fan base energized, putting all that

1158
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: money into the stadium. The ownership is is trying to

1159
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: connect with the people, spend some money. I like what

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00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: they're doing. And if you believe in that quarterback, and

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00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: you believe them enough to shock people by taking boardles

1162
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: number three, you gotta give him some weapons and see

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00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: if he can play. And one thing, I mean, I

1164
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: think that it's all skill players in free agency and

1165
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: everyone's going crazy. But if they fix that offensive line,

1166
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: which they tried to do by getting Alex Mack last

1167
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: year that fell through, that team is different on offense.

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Speaker 1: If they can find a couple of guys to come

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00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: in and protet Jeremy Parnell, I mean, they're being a risk,

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Speaker 1: they're being bold, which I like they're thinking. Originally, it

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00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of the Seahawks. I mean, they're

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00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: projecting guys Adric Parnell, Dan Scuda who came in to

1173
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: have to have much bigger roles then they really had

1174
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: in their previous spot, and they're paying them and there

1175
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be on the line. I mean, if

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00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: they win three or four games next year, I don't

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00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: know if this rebuilding continue getting young players at least

1178
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: unlike Oakland last off season and this offseason. The Bermuda

1179
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: Triangle of the NFL, as you call, the Jags are

1180
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 1: the one that are jumping up and down and say,

1181
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: pay attention to us, the Jags, of Titans and the Falcons,

1182
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: the Bermuda Triangle, the NFL. If you work for NFL media,

1183
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to write about them. So I try

1184
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: to give them attention. Um, but what did you say yesterday?

1185
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: You tried with the Titans, but they don't want they

1186
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: don't want attention. Well, they called, well even admitted their

1187
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: GM that they had five big targets going into the

1188
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: agency and they only got three of them and the

1189
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: two they didn't get, which he did not say, but

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: we can surmise from reporting and various sources that it

1191
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: was mccordy and cop Now that would have been awesome

1192
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: if you had gotten one of those two. Three is

1193
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: pretty good along with this group. Yeah, but the other

1194
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, no one was fighting them for Parnell and

1195
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: Adrick at those prices. One thing we've learned, UH fans

1196
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: should stop falling for the we've got the most salary

1197
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: cap space rouse that these teams pool. It's a vicious cycle.

1198
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: Teams like the Raiders and the Jags have all the

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00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: salary cap space. Meanwhile good teams like the Packers devote

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00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: that space to resigning Randall cob Brian Balaga, their own

1201
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: core talent, young core players that Raiders have no core,

1202
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,479
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have no core. They can't go spend that money.

1203
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: If you run your team properly and you have a

1204
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a nest thing to go into free

1205
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: agency each year, you could target guys you specifically need,

1206
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: rather than be the team that has a bare cupboard

1207
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: and then have all this money and then just throw

1208
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: contracts of guys that aren't even good and nobody wants

1209
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: to play for what's the harder part. It's how do

1210
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: you bring in talented players that know they're going from

1211
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers to a team with no quarterback? And we've

1212
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: seen this in the NBA. Little here's my second NBA analogy,

1213
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: and the day everyone was saving up cap space for

1214
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: a while and then the cap exploded and suddenly the

1215
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: cap didn't matter nearly as much as it used to,

1216
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: and so previous moves like trading James Harden for instance,

1217
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: And in the NFL, I think this cap is gonna

1218
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: keep going up more and more, so we need to

1219
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: all and I need to do it too, recalibrate like, oh,

1220
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: they overpaid Julius Thomas. Like by the fourth year of

1221
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: that contract, it's probably not gonna look too crazy. The

1222
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: Caps just going up and up and up. Alright, quick

1223
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: over under the game with Julius Thomas. Here we go,

1224
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: yes or no? Start with you mark reception under under

1225
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: west over over yards smart under under under seven touchdowns

1226
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: push over a gonna be alright. We talked a little

1227
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: bit about Frank Gore earlier, but let's just go through

1228
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: the specifics there. Uh. He signed this deal now with

1229
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: the Colts UH eight and a half million in guarantees.

1230
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: So goodbye to Trent Richardson, Hello to Frank Gore. Uh. Greg.

1231
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: This is a team that obviously with this move and

1232
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: also they they've signed Andre Johnson, uh, the wide receiver

1233
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,919
Speaker 1: from the Texans. Of course, this is a team that's

1234
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: going all in to win. Now, one game from the

1235
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, I think I gotta go this year.

1236
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not just adding veterans. They're adding Frank

1237
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: Gore and Andre Johnson old veterans now they're I mean,

1238
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: but they're guys who are still playing well, who have

1239
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: been among the very best players in the NFL and leaders,

1240
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: and I think played very well last year. Now they

1241
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: get to play alongside Andrew Like. I love the fact

1242
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: that Gore says he wanted to play with Luck, like

1243
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: that was one of the big things about it. And

1244
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: he changed his mind from Philly to Indie and because

1245
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: he's been watching Luck, and I mean, I love that

1246
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: I would want to play with Andrew Luck to Andre

1247
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: Johnson said the same thing. Rap Sheet reported the Chargers

1248
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: offered more than the Colts for Andre Johnson. The plane

1249
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 1: was repped up waiting to fly Andre Johnson to San Diego.

1250
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: He chose the Colts because he wanted to play with

1251
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck Griggson. I mean he's suggressive. He's also swung

1252
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: and missed on a few things. He's a little bit.

1253
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: He was so smart to take Andrew Luck at number

1254
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 1: one overall. But it's a little rot to me because

1255
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: the robber of the just everything Adam done. But he's

1256
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: going for it while they have a great window here

1257
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: with Luck and whatever it is that they're going for it.

1258
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: Trent Cole was a signing I like to uh, I

1259
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I think Todd Harriman's Kendall Langford. They've gotten

1260
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: a few they filled a few holes. How fun is

1261
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: this team? I mean, they were already the team I

1262
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: like to watch just about the most other than the

1263
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: page and now they're now they're adding Gore. How painful

1264
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: is this move? I don't think we because none of

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Speaker 1: us are Texans fans, but this is the least This

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Speaker 1: is the most painful move you could possibly make. If

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Speaker 1: there's a Texans fans, if you're coming up with one

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Speaker 1: trans action that would be the most painful in the

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Speaker 1: history of Texans franchise. It's Andre Johnson to the Colt.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna lead to some great serious John McLean tweets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I will. I mean they couldn't they They can't

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Speaker 1: win in Indianapolis and never happened. And now they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have Andrew Johnson do it while he's you know, polishing

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Speaker 1: up his Canton credentials with a member of the Coult.

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Speaker 1: That's this year, Steve Smith. Alright, one more before we

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Speaker 1: get to our speed round and we get out of here.

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Speaker 1: This will be the longest around the NFL podcast of

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Speaker 1: all time, but in a good way, because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to cover. By popular demand, All killer, no filler. Alright, finally, West,

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Speaker 1: I'll que you up on this because you wrote the

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Speaker 1: post the Buccaneers. Come on, Fox, you gotta be kidding

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Speaker 1: me with this stuff. So they went out and spent

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Speaker 1: all that money. They got Anthony Collins. Last year, they

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Speaker 1: got Michael Johnson, same regime. One year later, Josh McCown.

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Speaker 1: Josh McCown. All three of those guys are gone, Collins

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Speaker 1: and Michael Johnson. Most recently, they added Bruce Carter, which

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Speaker 1: might be a pretty good signing the Cowboys linebacker. But

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Speaker 1: to drop Anthony Collins and Michael Johnson to take the

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Speaker 1: money hit that they're taking on it, which what was it? Exactly? Like?

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Speaker 1: What are they what kind of penalty assessing themselves with this?

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Speaker 1: When these three guys signed last March, the reported money

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Speaker 1: for all of them was over eighty million and over

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Speaker 1: forty million guaranteed, and they all three of them lasted

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Speaker 1: one year. I don't think you can talk about Jason

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Speaker 1: Light's first years bucks GM without using the phrase abject failure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, GM is very rarely last one year. But

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Speaker 1: if there was ever a case to be made, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta give another chance. Guys make mistakes.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying right. I like this New West I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he's a bad general manager, but his first

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Speaker 1: free agency attempt might have taught him a few less,

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Speaker 1: basically saying, I would rather keep the players the last

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Speaker 1: general manager picked than the ones I picked at the

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Speaker 1: disappointment if they didn't have Jamis Winston coming in. It's

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Speaker 1: about as low as any franchises right now. I think Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: if I was Tennessee, if I was making a hopeless

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Speaker 1: rankings would be they'd be at the top. But the

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Speaker 1: Bucks are close that they're getting James Twinston's just their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Come week, they got Harry Douglas. Now they got somebody

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Speaker 1: to put on the program. Now, by the way, I

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Speaker 1: have something to add for this Speed rounds fits right

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Speaker 1: in its Why don't we Why don't we talk about that?

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Speaker 1: And then we'll go to the street. Well it's kind

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Speaker 1: of speed round worthy. Okay, all right, how about this TV?

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Speaker 1: It's now time for this made round? Uh started off

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Speaker 1: Greg breaking news out in New England. Jabal Seared goes

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Speaker 1: to the Patriots, one of Mark's favorite players, one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite Browns too. I like it. I love this, Sonny.

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Speaker 1: I am annoyed why Jabal sheared like this would have

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Speaker 1: been we wanted. We want to keep our own drafted players.

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Speaker 1: How about we sign your own guys? Outrage all right?

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Speaker 1: Rules of the Speed Round. The Benny Hill sponsors Speed

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Speaker 1: Round gotta be fast. Here we go forty Niners. Tori

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Speaker 1: Smith strike five year, forty million dollar deal The Deep

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Speaker 1: Threat for Baltimore. Now the Deep that for the Niners.

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Speaker 1: Nice move, mark, nice edition for four win team Like

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Speaker 1: might you potty uh plans to leave? The forty nine

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Speaker 1: is for the Arizona Cardinals. Of the guard one of

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Speaker 1: the best guards on the market. Cardinals get stronger guard.

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Speaker 1: That was necessary. Rights love this move. If Jonathan Cooper

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Speaker 1: pans out there could have one of the best guard

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Speaker 1: pans in the league. You partty goes to show how

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Speaker 1: little we as analysts. No great players played through a

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Speaker 1: broke bass. We need a skinny played through a broken

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Speaker 1: foot last year. If you're accusing him a bad pass protection,

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Speaker 1: you don't know the full detail. Mr Smith goes to

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Speaker 1: Washington West. You're out of that was terrible. You will

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Speaker 1: be banned for one round of Speed Round. Here we go,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick Gregg Sides of the Jets. See I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, you're you're all happy about Darrell Remus.

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Speaker 1: You have Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's your quarterback. Shut up, jerk, Mark.

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Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer and the Texans reach agreement on two year deal.

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Speaker 1: Did we already talked about this age of glory? But

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Speaker 1: I want my speed round back two thousand eleven. Bills,

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Speaker 1: gotta put them back together on the Jets. Remove funny

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Speaker 1: enough to come back Shane Free Shane and expected to

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Speaker 1: land with the Giants West. Uh, they've got a new

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Speaker 1: passing down back because Rashad Jennings was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: their passing down back, Budd he got injured all year

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Speaker 1: last year. Bill's preparing offer for Charles Clay the Miami Dolphins. Gregg.

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Speaker 1: They didn't pay him off, apparently to keep in the building.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go all right back off with the private planes, Bills,

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Speaker 1: Charles Clay and Jerome Felton, you gotta be a little

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Speaker 1: better to get the private plane. The Tennessee Titans, the Tytoons,

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Speaker 1: I don't know who they are, but apparently Harry Douglas

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Speaker 1: is on that team now. Also, they resigned their long snapper,

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Speaker 1: their punter, and a Searcy fellow Wesley. It's just depressing, disheartening, disgusting.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, Mark, the Bears signed Pernell McPhee to a

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Speaker 1: five year deal, missing piece like the signing way too

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Speaker 1: much money. All right, good job West. You got a

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Speaker 1: little talking in that one part. But overall, sometimes I

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Speaker 1: have a point I need to make it. Let me

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Speaker 1: make it. I have to tell people off something. And

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Speaker 1: the Speed Round, though, you know, it's a little different game.

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Speaker 1: That's all the species. West shifts into massive filibuster during

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Speaker 1: speed they undermine speed round. The speed Round in Tybee

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Speaker 1: is like two hours left until the bar closed. Like

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Speaker 1: that's that's the speed Round. They're moving at their own pace.

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Speaker 1: We stay after all right. So that's it for Wednesday's

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Speaker 1: edition of The Around, a supersized edition of The Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. We're gonna be back on Thursday. We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back here talking about another day of free

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Speaker 1: agency and what is a mega week for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Uh So make sure you tune in. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: Since Dan Hanson signing off for a Mark Sessler and

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Speaker 1: the Sizzler, the Mailman, the Boss and t d Behind

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Speaker 1: the Glass Till Thursday,