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Speaker 1: This is the best of two pros and a couple

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Speaker 1: Joe with Lamar arings and rating win and Jonas Knox

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Speaker 2: Hey, you know what, which will be a theme for

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Speaker 2: this show that we will point out. Look who decided

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Speaker 2: to show up and this time we're talking about the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals. They were back last night? Are you sure

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Speaker 2: they were back last night? And a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a surprising result I think for some people going into

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Speaker 2: the game, Indiana was a five and a half point underdog.

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Speaker 2: But they get it done. And as we've seen the

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Speaker 2: stat thrown up before, anytime there's a series in the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals, it's tied at one apiece, the team that

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Speaker 2: wins Game three wins the NBA Finals eighty percent of

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Speaker 2: the time. So the Indiana Pacers in a good spot following.

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Speaker 3: That win last night. They played well. I think they

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Speaker 3: played like a team that does not believe whatever other

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Speaker 3: of what they feel these other guys are are bringing

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Speaker 3: to the table. And I you know, you got to

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Speaker 3: give them a lot of credit because, okay, see is

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Speaker 3: what what people think they are. I just think that

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Speaker 3: Indiana is better than what people give them, you know,

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Speaker 3: credit for, So there may they've made it more than

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Speaker 3: just a series. It's it's a competitive deal. Uh. If

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Speaker 3: if OKAC is to as you just mentioned the stat

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Speaker 3: a real chance, they gotta get one in Indiana. They

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Speaker 3: gotta grab one in Indiana if they go back to

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Speaker 3: Oka C with a too two tie. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, who wins the series? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm I went with okay See to win the series,

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Speaker 3: but I did go with Indiana to win the game

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Speaker 3: last night. But going into a game four situation where

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Speaker 3: it's it's uh, game five, excuse wait no, no two

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Speaker 3: to one right? Two one? Yeah, game four, it's just

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Speaker 3: I think it's very critical for for okay See, but

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Speaker 3: it's also very critical for the NBA as well. Right,

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Speaker 3: there's a lot riding on this in terms of relevance,

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Speaker 3: maybe interest, maybe, I mean, there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: things out there are are at stakecare if Indiana were

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Speaker 3: to win the next game, how many people do you

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Speaker 3: think are gonna watch the next one? So this could

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Speaker 3: potentially be maybe the last game that you get real

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Speaker 2: An egg in the next game, it would be whove

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Speaker 2: the NBA to have a back and forth series.

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Speaker 3: It certainly would because it provides a much better story

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Speaker 3: line to everything that's going on UH in a series.

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Speaker 3: Again where we've discussed it heading into the series, we

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Speaker 3: discussed it as a potential UH series where you don't

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Speaker 3: have the type of a brand power to really drive

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Speaker 3: the viewership of the series, the most important series of

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Speaker 3: the season for for the NBA. So but again, give

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Speaker 3: give Halliburton props. I'm always wanted to to give props

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Speaker 3: his his props. Today. He showed up in a major,

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Speaker 3: and and so they needed that, and they'll need that

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Speaker 3: moving forward if they're if they're going to have a

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Speaker 2: I mean, some would say he's the captain now made

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he had a much he had

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Speaker 3: of off of Halliburton. You know, Halliburton had twenty two,

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Speaker 3: Pascal had twenty one. You know, he had four assists

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Speaker 3: Where to me, that's where the separation took place was

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Speaker 3: But I think you had a lot of unsung heroes,

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Tyres Halliburton. There's been some discussion about maybe

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Speaker 2: he's not being as aggressive as he needs to be,

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Speaker 2: and maybe he's got to do a little bit more.

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Speaker 2: He talked about the discussion surrounding his performance early in

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Speaker 4: The commentary is always going to be what it is.

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Speaker 3: You know, most of the.

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Speaker 4: Time, the talking heads on them major platforms, I couldn't

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Speaker 4: The commentary is what it is. At this point, you know,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. You know, we're here in the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 4: two wins away from an NBA championship. So you just

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Speaker 4: got to stay with it, put my head down and

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Speaker 2: How about that? People, all these platforms, how you're talking

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Speaker 3: How about that? Clearly Caliburton isn't the only one that

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Speaker 3: feels that way. Sometimes your own colleagues feel that way.

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Speaker 2: Yes, these people, uh so the Yeah, Like I was,

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Speaker 2: made mention of this before that it's kind of nice

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Speaker 2: all this discussion afterwards. We're just really Actually, I think

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Speaker 2: I think they're starting to see that, well, this is

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Speaker 2: just really good basketball. Like the closing stretch the fourth

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Speaker 3: You saw it.

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Speaker 2: You saw like Miles Turner did not have a good

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Speaker 2: so you look at it, you go, these are really

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Speaker 2: But I look at it and I go, it's almost

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Speaker 2: And that's not a bad thing, because I don't know

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Speaker 2: anybody that looks at this and is pounding the table.

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Speaker 2: have an Indiana win like Lebron James butters the bread

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Speaker 2: a polarizing reaction one way or the other. If the

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Speaker 2: see more than likely comes out and wins Game four,

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Speaker 2: gonna be about the basketball. It's not going to be

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Speaker 2: about which talking head that Tyrese Haliburton is referring to

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Speaker 2: we're not going to be dependent on that for storylines

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Speaker 2: really good basketball, really underrated teams that are getting a

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Speaker 2: So I think there's a lot of people discussing the

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's an interesting way of looking at it,

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Speaker 3: offer the approach that Haliburton is taking is the right one.

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Speaker 3: You know, whether talking hits know enough about basketball or

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Speaker 3: He's got to keep his head down, he's got to

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Speaker 3: stay focused because I do know for one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: none of those people he's referring to are going to

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Speaker 3: See I do know that for one hundred percent certain

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Speaker 3: Like I won't debate that one with anyone. But with

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Speaker 3: that being said, the talking heads that he's he's referring

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Speaker 3: a fans opportunity to do the same exact thing, because

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Speaker 3: they're enthusiasts of it. Some people are more passive and

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Speaker 3: just aren't you know, into it as deep in as

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Speaker 3: far as some real fanatical type of people that not

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Speaker 3: what it ultimately comes down to more so than you know,

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Speaker 3: what's more important here, Jonas, is what you're talking about

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Speaker 3: is the opportunity to take in the sport. Are you

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Speaker 3: Are you doing that because you can? There has not

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Speaker 3: been a flooding of storylines in terms of big names.

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Speaker 3: They have been pushing Halliburton now that he's he's placed

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Speaker 3: himself in that scenario show dad. There's that he had

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Speaker 3: his little you know, his little banner with with his

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Speaker 3: son's you know, on his his likeness on there. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's the storyline. Haliburton and his dad, great SGA is

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Speaker 3: a storyline. But again, as you mentioned, none of these

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Speaker 2: It's like Middle America mom and pop basketball, like the like.

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Speaker 2: There's no big time, big market feel and splash all

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Speaker 2: that stuff. To your point, there's just you just got

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Speaker 2: banged up last year with the Jets because he was

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Speaker 2: throwing it so often. He got roughed up in the

433
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Speaker 2: game over and I think it was London where they

434
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Speaker 2: played early in the year. It's not like he got

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Speaker 2: through last year and he was just dealing with the

436
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Speaker 2: Achilles or whatnot. Remember there was the story about, you know,

437
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Speaker 2: he didn't want to miss any time. He was dead

438
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Speaker 2: set on wanting to play and start every game, and

439
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Speaker 2: so he was working through injuries and net injuries pop up.

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Speaker 2: That was one of the other storylines that was trickling

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Speaker 2: out of New York at the time. So last year

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Speaker 2: he dealt with other stuff outside of just coming back

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Speaker 2: from the Achilles. If you're Arthur Smith and your Mike

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Speaker 2: tom are like, let's take I mean, yeah, we've got

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Speaker 2: DK metcalf. I mean, that's a nice option to have

446
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Speaker 2: for him. But if you can establish the run, as

447
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Speaker 2: you mentioned, like we've whenever they've had success historically. It's

448
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Speaker 2: always been through that. Like, why would you drop him

449
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Speaker 2: back and have them throw fifty times a game if

450
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Speaker 2: you can be more well balanced and you can rely

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Speaker 2: on that defense that you talked about, which is still

452
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Speaker 2: capable of playing at a high level. And also in

453
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Speaker 2: that division, you really want to get in a shootout

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Speaker 2: with Joe Burrow, like you really want to get in

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Speaker 2: a shootout with Lamar Jackson, Like you really want to

456
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Speaker 2: go back and forth with you know, whatever team in

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Speaker 2: the AFC you have to deal with throughout the course

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Speaker 2: of the year. It makes all the sense in the world.

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Speaker 2: You'd want to run games that you keep your forty

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Speaker 2: plus year old quarterback healthy and you're not having to

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Speaker 2: go run and gun with other teams in the conference

462
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Speaker 2: that that are more well equipped to do. That makes

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Speaker 2: makes sense.

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Speaker 3: You know, you have a running backs, back committee backfield,

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Speaker 3: and it's not your starter was an undrafted football player,

466
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Speaker 3: your second string player was a third round draft pick.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's you know, to me when you look

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Speaker 3: at what they have in the backfield, and I don't

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Speaker 3: want this to come across as any shade to you know,

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Speaker 3: the guys that they have and Warren Jalen Warren and

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Speaker 3: Caleb Johnson. Uh but I mean, I look at it. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I just look at it. And Trey Sermon is there

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Speaker 3: as well. I just I just look at it, like

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Speaker 3: I get it. Like Naji Harris could have been a

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Speaker 3: better back for them. You would have anticipated him being

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Speaker 3: a better back for the Steelers. It just didn't materialize

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Speaker 3: that way. But for the most part, you've always had

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Speaker 3: a guy that can get it done, whether it be

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Speaker 3: Le'Veon Bell, whether it was Jerome Bettis, you know, you know.

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Speaker 2: Parker, Willie Parker, which.

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Speaker 3: He was an obscure guy, I mean, and and had

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Speaker 3: some good, good moments. But you've always had a guy

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Speaker 3: that could fit what the Pittsburgh Steller have needed. It'll

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Speaker 3: be interesting to see if these guys can carry that

485
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Speaker 3: type of load because they're not marquee name guys. They're

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Speaker 3: not known guys at that position. And you've usually had

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Speaker 3: an obscure guy that goes along with a high profile

488
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Speaker 3: guy that's been in the back the backfield for the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: and that doesn't seem, at least today to be the

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Speaker 3: case for them now. So maybe that's an indication that

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Speaker 3: they are going to go to the air more than

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Speaker 3: what they have and be more pass dominant, more pass

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Speaker 3: havy than what they've ever been. But you still got

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Speaker 3: to have running backs. And if I'm the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 3: and that's been their DNA as to how they approach

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Speaker 3: what they're doing, I think you still got to have

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Speaker 3: backs that can can do what you see take like

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Speaker 3: you have a mirror image of a team in the

499
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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania teams. So when you look at where the Eagles

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Speaker 3: are right now, that's generally what you have. When you're

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Speaker 3: looking out of Pittsburgh Steelers team. You have a Saquon

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Speaker 3: Barkley type of back in the backfield, you have a good,

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Speaker 3: strong offensive front. You have a quarterback that can manage

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Speaker 3: the games, at the least manage the game. Then you

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Speaker 3: have a defense that can play defense. Strong up front,

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Speaker 3: linebackers that can run big, safeties that can bring big hits,

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Speaker 3: and play like light linebackers and corners that are fairly good.

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Speaker 3: That's generally the recipe you see. You see it play

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Speaker 3: out in Baltimore. They are mirror images of in likeness

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Speaker 3: of what they want to do. While Lamar Jackson is

511
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Speaker 3: a prolific passer, they still want to establish that run

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Speaker 3: and you have King Henry.

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Speaker 2: To do that.

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Speaker 3: You have receivers, you have your tight end. That's what

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh does. They use their tight ends historically, you know,

516
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Speaker 3: from Bruner to Heath to now you know Friar move

517
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Speaker 3: you use your tight ends. So there is a to me,

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Speaker 3: there's a formula that has been developed in the in

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Speaker 3: the AFC North and even even Cincinnati, even Cleveland follow

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Speaker 3: that model. I mean, you think about Nick Chubb, you

521
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Speaker 3: think about mixings, you know, those type of running backs,

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Speaker 3: and then you see there are skilled receivers and if

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Speaker 3: you're able to get an elite quarterback of Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: a Lamar Jackson, they were hoping a Deshaun Watson in Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: they were hoping for a Kenny Pickett in Pittsburgh, or

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Speaker 3: even at the time maybe a Mason Rudolph. You don't

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Speaker 3: you know, those didn't turn out to be elites, but

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Speaker 3: two of those those teams have elite quarterbacks and yet

529
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Speaker 3: and still running the football was a major part of

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Speaker 3: the success. And the formula of what it is that

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Speaker 3: they do makes all the sense.

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Speaker 2: I mean, why send him out there to take some battering,

533
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Speaker 2: take some hits when you can roll out a running

534
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Speaker 2: attack and bring back the old Pittsburgh Steelers Little Bam Morris,

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Speaker 2: little Barry Foster back in the day, Tim Worley, damn right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Meryl Hodge, Merril Hodge, Yeah. Man.

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Speaker 2: on the show. He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter,

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Speaker 2: lead content strategist at the MMQB, Amazon NFL on Prime Insider,

543
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Speaker 2: a B good morning, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: One to ask you with the no shows at camp,

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Speaker 2: whether it be TJ. Watt, Trey Hendrickson, Terry McLaurin, which

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Speaker 2: of these are you most concerned? Is not going to

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Speaker 2: result in a deal with his current team And.

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Speaker 6: It's probably all well, But like the Trey Hendricksons thing,

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Speaker 6: I think it's probably the most tenuous spot because it's

552
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Speaker 6: lasted three off seasons now. They did the band aid

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Speaker 6: deal two years ago last year and make any progress,

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Speaker 6: and now you know, the markets changed that position where

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Speaker 6: you know, like I think you have some pretty decent

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Speaker 6: comps and Max Crosby and and danil Hunter getting deals

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Speaker 6: later in their careers better in the mid thirties, you know,

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Speaker 6: And so the Bengals getting there. What does the structure

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Speaker 6: look like? Is it more like the Chamar Chase structure?

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Speaker 6: Is it more like the Tea Higgins structure? The thing

561
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Speaker 6: is like complicated in a lot of different ways. And

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Speaker 6: you know, on on on one side, you've got a

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Speaker 6: team that you know obviously has this reputation that on

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Speaker 6: the other side, you've got a player who probably isn't

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Speaker 6: going to be looking to give a team any discount.

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Speaker 6: So I think that one's probably the most tenuous and

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Speaker 6: the least predictable right now.

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Speaker 3: What about Micah, Like it just seems like it's kind

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Speaker 3: of a low impact, low key type of deal. I

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Speaker 3: think everybody knows there's a big deal that's imminent. But

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Speaker 3: how big is it? Ab Like, should people be bracing

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Speaker 3: and for the largest contract, like bigger than a moles Garrett?

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Speaker 3: Does it fall short of that?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: Where where do you see this? You know, shaping up

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Speaker 3: and landing?

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Speaker 6: So I mean, I think it should probably land north

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Speaker 6: of miles Garrett. You know, I think at this point

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Speaker 6: you're probably talking about like an average per years that

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Speaker 6: starts with the four and not a Briand part of

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Speaker 6: that the result them waiting as long as they did,

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Speaker 6: you know, like the markets changed and and that's the

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Speaker 6: risk of waiting, of course, I dude, I don't know

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Speaker 6: why the Cowboys keep doing this both far like, but

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Speaker 6: you know, they went down the throad with Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 6: They went down the road with I mean, they just

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Speaker 6: wait and wait and wait in the last possible minute,

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Speaker 6: and that they wind up having made an attacks and

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Speaker 6: so you know, I I as as weird as that

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Speaker 6: negotiation and the whole thing between Mike and the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: to spin at time over the last year. I just

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Speaker 6: I don't see Jerry Watt in a way or taking

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Speaker 6: a hard letty. I just think that this is I mean,

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Speaker 6: to me, at least like at some point they're going

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Speaker 6: to get something done. And whether that's now or on

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Speaker 6: September fifth, you know, I think it should matter more

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Speaker 6: than it does to the Cowboys. But we saw their

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Speaker 6: willingness to go that deep into it with Ceedee Lamb.

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Speaker 6: And Dak Prescott last year. They've got a history of

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Speaker 6: this sort of thing, of course, and you know, uh,

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Speaker 6: you sort of wish that they could have been more

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Speaker 6: aggressive with something like this, like, because I do think

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Speaker 6: they're easier answers are the ones they pursued.

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Speaker 2: But where we are Alberberer joining us here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio on the subject of the Cowboys. Why do

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Speaker 2: they operate like this? Why are they always waiting so

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Speaker 2: long until the last minute to get a deal done,

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Speaker 2: knowing that it's going to cost them more from people

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Speaker 2: you've talked to? Why did they operate under these conditions?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 6: I think I think I think would you say, what

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Speaker 6: was that last part?

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Speaker 2: I lost?

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Speaker 6: You?

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Speaker 2: Just why do they operate underneath the under these conditions

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Speaker 2: and and and do business this way?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, I think it's like, if you want

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Speaker 6: the skeptical view, the skeptical view is that owners like

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Speaker 6: to keep their money and their investments for as long

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Speaker 6: as possible, and so that's why maybe some teams would

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Speaker 6: rather do a deal with you in August than in March,

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Speaker 6: you know, and that the longer they can wait to

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Speaker 6: have that might come out of their pocket, the better.

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Speaker 6: But if I'm not being skeptical dot it, which you know,

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Speaker 6: you always have to have some skepticism with this stuff.

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Speaker 6: I would just say, like, you know, when you're saying

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Speaker 6: things early in the process, like well, we got to

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Speaker 6: find a way to fit everybody, and you know, really

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Speaker 6: like it's sort of self serving, and then you make

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Speaker 6: the player away like it puts you in a really

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Speaker 6: tough position, and you know, I again, like I don't

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Speaker 6: know if there's the Cowboys drawing hard lines with guys

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Speaker 6: early on. I think there's some cases that we would

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Speaker 6: rather wait the extra year so we have some certainty.

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Speaker 6: I just like I think that there are certain ones

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Speaker 6: that are obvious, you know what I mean. Like I

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Speaker 6: think with see Lamb, it was obvious like that he

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Speaker 6: was trending towards a blockbuster deal and like that it

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Speaker 6: was smart for them to get done a year early,

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Speaker 6: and they didn't do it and it cost them a

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Speaker 6: lot of money. I think when the quarterback generally that

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Speaker 6: answer no question that you have the answer to. This

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Speaker 6: is another one. Now again, like I don't know, things

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Speaker 6: have always been perfect with Mike uh and certain people

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Speaker 6: in that building. But he's a great, great player, and

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Speaker 6: like I do think it's incumbent on you to make

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Speaker 6: that decision early, as early as you can so you

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Speaker 6: can get the guy under contract for a little bit

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Speaker 6: less and bust of them with the with an extra

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Speaker 6: previous year, which knocks down the average and makes it

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Speaker 6: easier to manage. That's what the Eagles have done. It's

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Speaker 6: one way the Eagles have been able to build the

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Speaker 6: roster they've been able to build, and for one raiser

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Speaker 6: out of the Cowboy, she has been unwilling to build

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Speaker 6: that way.

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Speaker 3: Speaking about easy answers, Abe, your your REP sets should

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Speaker 3: be pretty easy to structure. Doesn't sound like that in Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: And I'm curious to Joe Flacco coming out and saying

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Speaker 3: he doesn't know why or what his REP counts are

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Speaker 3: going to be or why they're so low, but he

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Speaker 3: trusts the FANSKI. My question to that would be, what

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Speaker 3: does that represent for Flacco? Does that mean he's got

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Speaker 3: one foot out the door there? They may be thinking

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Speaker 3: about not going with him. I know it would be

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Speaker 3: easy to say he's the he's the veteran. They brought

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Speaker 3: him back because they know they can win with him.

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Speaker 3: That's the easy answer, AB, But I mean, what isn't

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Speaker 3: easy about this is you have four quarterbacks and you

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Speaker 3: really have to figure out what.

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Speaker 2: You're going to do.

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Speaker 3: And I'll add this based upon all of the attension

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Speaker 3: Shador Sanders, I think he complicates it even more because

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Speaker 3: your most popular player at the position is a fifth

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Speaker 3: round draft pick rookie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: It's sort of interesting too, because I think it's you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I have they made some sort of quiet

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Speaker 6: promise to Joe. I don't know, if you're Joe, your

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Speaker 6: fighting for the job you do on those reps. Now,

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Speaker 6: I did talk to him a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 6: and you know, he said to me, like, I'm comfortable

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Speaker 6: with the fact that they know who I am, they

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Speaker 6: know what I can do, and like that might mean

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Speaker 6: that I get a little less work right now. And

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Speaker 6: if he's so comfortable with that, it does make me wonder,

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Speaker 6: like has they given him some sort of a shirt

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Speaker 6: At the very least, I would say it almost feels like,

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Speaker 6: I guess he's got like a first round by into

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Speaker 6: the quarter in the quarterback co petishes.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, he's the one seed.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like he's got the first round by and now

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Speaker 6: those guys are competing for summer reps and he'll be

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Speaker 6: there when they get to the second round of training camp.

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Speaker 6: That sort of feel that way, though, doesn't it, Like

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Speaker 6: I I don't know, I mean, like I think, you know,

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Speaker 6: like they do know what they have. He has played

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Speaker 6: in the offense. It is a little different. But like,

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Speaker 6: you know, if he's so willing to step aside and

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Speaker 6: let these guys yeah the word, well, then I do

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Speaker 6: think to some degree, like he's got to feel comfortable

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Speaker 6: with where he's at in the competition. And you know,

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Speaker 6: it'll be really fascinating to see what Kevin is saying

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Speaker 6: on day one up training camp because of where this

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Speaker 6: thing has gone. And you know, I think the fact

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Speaker 6: that it's probably in the levarc and speaks is better

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Speaker 6: than me. But I think it's probably impractical to have

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Speaker 6: four quarterbacks in a completely open competition, all on level

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Speaker 6: ground at the beginning at the end of July, it's

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Speaker 6: just too much to do. There are too few refs.

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Speaker 6: There's you know, like ten other guys in the huddle

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Speaker 6: up to get ready for the season. And I do

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Speaker 6: think it's not Kevin like has sort of hinted at

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Speaker 6: that it's not flat out said it like where you know,

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Speaker 6: he's say like like everyone's being evaluated right now, and

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Speaker 6: sometimes coaches won't say that in the spring, like that

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Speaker 6: the competition is already underway. But it does feel like

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Speaker 6: the competition it's already underway, and like I said, maybe

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Speaker 6: Joe does have that first.

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Speaker 2: Round by He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead

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Speaker 2: content strategist at the MMQB. You can get him on

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Speaker 2: as well too.

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Speaker 3: Abe.

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Speaker 2: We always appreciate it. Thanks so much, enjoying the weekend.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it again next Thursday.

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Speaker 6: All right, thanks guys, I'm great with you.

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