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Speaker 1: Late fifteen ten touched up.

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Speaker 2: What's up, guys, Welcome into a brand new episode of

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Speaker 2: Chargers Weekly. We are presented by Splittero as always, joined

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Speaker 2: by the voice of the Chargers Matt Mudey Smith modeling

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Speaker 2: his mug right his patero Muggug. We are about an

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Speaker 2: hour after the Mike McDaniel press conference. Immediate thoughts. Mike

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Speaker 2: McDaniel actually going to join us too in the content

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Speaker 2: study in a few minutes, but money, I found that

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Speaker 2: forty minutes to be very entertaining, insightful, educational, and I

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Speaker 2: think Charge of Fan's pretty pumped.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think it's very sort of reminiscent of our

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Speaker 3: jessemanterpressers right, very detailed, the very football centric. At the

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Speaker 3: same time, there's a very warm and friendly personality attached

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Speaker 3: to it, engagement with whoever is posing the question. It's

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Speaker 3: everything that you know I think you see from head coaches,

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Speaker 3: and it's clear that this has been a head coach

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Speaker 3: in the league that has worked with some of the

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Speaker 3: best coaches in the league throughout his travels, most notably

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Speaker 3: Kyle Shannan. He's been attached to Kyle pretty much every

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Speaker 3: single place he's gone but you know, to me, the

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Speaker 3: first thing that jumps out is there are And that

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Speaker 3: was like the big question, right, how is this personality

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Speaker 3: gonna mesh with with Jim Harbaugh. And there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of harborism's in there. You know, we sort of say,

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Speaker 3: be it your best when your best is required, talking

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Speaker 3: about winning the game when you have a lead with

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Speaker 3: nine minutes left and making sure you can run that

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Speaker 3: clock out. Physical football, Like, there's a lot for how

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Speaker 3: he looks versus how Jim looks and how they present themselves.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of harbor in him. And I think

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Speaker 3: it's very easy after that forty minutes to see how

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Speaker 3: these two connected and it became a no brainer.

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Speaker 2: It was really cool. Jim was right behind me in

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Speaker 2: the presser watching it, and you know, right, Mike's just

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Speaker 2: very quick witted. He's funny, Jim's laughing. You see Joe

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Speaker 2: Ortiz in the corner. It just it seemed like this

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Speaker 2: was the right move at the right time for all

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Speaker 2: parties involved. And you know, we talk about the running game,

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Speaker 2: he said, Coach Harver likes to run the football, and

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Speaker 2: you know he'll get into detail about the running game

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Speaker 2: with us, but he really just emphasized how important that

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Speaker 2: was in his career and just how he's been able

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Speaker 2: been at, and it seems like he's very confident in

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Speaker 2: what this already is and what he can make it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think the best thing you could do, because

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Speaker 3: all this stuff's available online, is just go back and

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Speaker 3: you know it because you lived it. Chris is twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty eleven, whatever, it was twenty twelve with RG three,

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Speaker 3: And remember, you know when that happened, we didn't you know,

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Speaker 3: we didn't have all twenty twos available to people. You

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Speaker 3: have now. So it might be hard for people fourteen

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Speaker 3: when RG three hit, when he was drafted, there were

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Speaker 3: so many questions of how's this going to work? What

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Speaker 3: are they doing? They start out three and six, everyone's low, Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: you're going to change the NFL, And then all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden it clicked and it was the most fun

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Speaker 3: to watch the Washington you know, football team at the time,

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Speaker 3: a different mascot because it was must watch football and

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Speaker 3: that was that group of people, you know, Kyle, Sean

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Speaker 3: McVay and Lafleur and McDaniel, and I think so much

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Speaker 3: of it was what Mike McDaniel did, you know, with

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Speaker 3: kind of brain you're talking about. Is he's now with

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Speaker 3: a new group of players. He's never worked with a

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Speaker 3: there's really none of them, right, There's there's one or

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Speaker 3: to that point where you have these big, strong, huge

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know that's that's part of his brilliance

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Speaker 2: is that you can go back to Washington or watch Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: And the thing that struck me, I think struck a

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Speaker 2: the heroics that he's had, all these big plays. Mike

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Speaker 2: McDaniels still views this as a lot of meat on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, I think it's it's easy to focus

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Speaker 3: and that's born out of Mike McDaniel. You know, Kyle

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Speaker 3: So he has all of that available to him, you know,

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Speaker 3: the speed he was asked about and how, and I

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Speaker 3: it's so to me, it's so reminiscent of what Jesse

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Speaker 3: If I had guys that could play press man, I

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Speaker 3: when you look at his track record, you can't argue

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Speaker 2: You know, last week we talked about speed and kind

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Speaker 2: love what he said. He said, Speed's important, but that's

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Speaker 2: he almost prefers a guy who runs a four five,

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Speaker 2: gatz and he seemed very confident and comfortable with like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the key to the nucleus is

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Speaker 3: he mentioned it multiple times, the tackles, and I think

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Speaker 3: the idea that he gets to work with Alt and Slater,

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Speaker 3: here's what he said. He said, tackles set the depth

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Speaker 2: The adaptability to he said, one of the selling points

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Speaker 2: I think obviously he realized that something needed to change. Offensively,

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Speaker 2: McDaniel who has a proven track record. It seems like,

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Speaker 2: although they didn't really have a working relationship, it seemed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, to me, that like the again the

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Speaker 1: Slash Chargers All.

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Speaker 2: Right, guys, as promised, Mike McDaniel joins us on Chargers

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Speaker 2: Weekly and Coach. I have to say, man, the the

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Speaker 4: technique and fundamentals that you that you're expressing. When your

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Speaker 4: offensive starting point is the I formation under center, it's

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Speaker 4: still how we teach this offense. I think you're not

433
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Speaker 4: known for it as much if your skill if the

434
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Speaker 4: skill sets of your particular players, you know, don't lean

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Speaker 4: lean into being in that type of formation in those

436
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Speaker 4: types of situations on routine. You know, I'm a problem solver,

437
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 4: so you know, I, like I've said before, I kind

438
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Speaker 4: of lean into the talents of the players that that

439
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Speaker 4: we have available. But at the same time, I've always

440
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Speaker 4: seen football as a execution of technique and fundamentals. You

441
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Speaker 4: have a finite ability to work on things and to

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Speaker 4: create conviction and create uh to be good at stuff

443
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Speaker 4: you had. There's a finite amount of time the job

444
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Speaker 4: is to create nucleus of technique and fundamentals that are

445
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 4: tried and true that those are ultimately the things that

446
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Speaker 4: win games in December and January, and staying connected to

447
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Speaker 4: that while being able to keep defenses, you know, off

448
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 4: kilter a little bit with uh, you know, nuanced movement

449
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 4: pre snap and and different types of schemes to to

450
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Speaker 4: really glorify those techniques and fundamentals. I think it's a

451
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Speaker 4: perfect fit, ironically, because that's how I see football won

452
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Speaker 4: and lost down the stretch of seasons is through the

453
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Speaker 4: techniques and fundamentals, much of which are tied to the

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Speaker 4: types of offenses that you're used to see and succeed

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Speaker 4: with Coach Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: You know, like we were talking last week when we

457
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Speaker 2: knew that this was a possibility, that that play Callers

458
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Speaker 2: podcast that you guys did with Jordan rod Reeg go

459
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 2: back to twenty eleven in Washington where you said that

460
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Speaker 2: Sean and Matt Lafleour are trying to get the plays

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Speaker 2: in and getting Kyle's here about pass plays and you

462
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Speaker 2: kind of zagged because that wasn't your style. You wanted

463
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Speaker 2: to kind of kind of lean into the run, and

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Speaker 2: the time you spent with Chris forrest Ter in the room.

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Speaker 2: How did that help you and how was that kind

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Speaker 2: of a pivot point in your career in terms of

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Speaker 2: just kind of specializing in the run.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a gigantic pivot point for sure, because you know,

469
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Speaker 4: it was I was going back into the Washington I

470
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Speaker 4: got rehired by Kyle Shanahan with the Washington Organization and

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Speaker 4: having those those guys that were on the front end

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Speaker 4: of past game, you know, and then really how Chris

473
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Speaker 4: Furster had monopolized all conversation that had to do with

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Speaker 4: the run game. I figured I could have a unique

475
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Speaker 4: advantage from you know, as I saw it, the the

476
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Speaker 4: young play callers of tomorrow specializing in the past game.

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Speaker 4: So that enabled me to be of resource to Kyle

478
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Speaker 4: enough to hire me in San Francisco and Atlanta and

479
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 4: San Francisco after that, or in Cleveland, uh, Atlanta than

480
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Speaker 4: San Francisco. It gave me opportunity to solve different problems

481
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Speaker 4: schematically with the different players that we had, and you know,

482
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Speaker 4: really got me started on all things from a play

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Speaker 4: play design standpoint, starting with the quarterback and the and

484
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Speaker 4: the offensive line and and how to protect things and

485
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Speaker 4: and and how to really weave uh run and pass

486
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Speaker 4: marriage to uh to even higher standard than I've seen

487
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Speaker 4: had seen before. So monumental, impactful, uh gigantic career career

488
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Speaker 4: change really gave me footing in the National Football League,

489
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Speaker 4: allowed me to uh do some uh you know, realistically,

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Speaker 4: I stood on run game innovation for about a decade

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Speaker 4: of my career after that, and UH so supremely impactful

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Speaker 4: that and it is part of how I see the

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Speaker 4: game today for sure.

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Speaker 3: We Uh, there's so much out there. And so I

495
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Speaker 3: get two part question here. The I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you saw the the Johnny Man's El Darren Waller conversation,

497
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Speaker 3: but both obviously glowing, you know, praise for their time

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Speaker 3: with you. But there's a moment in there where where

499
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Speaker 3: Waller talks about the play against the Chargers. You know,

500
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Speaker 3: we were there, so we got to see it up

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Speaker 3: close to the A Chanter run uh and he said,

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Speaker 3: you knew, you said, you told everyone, look, if they

503
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Speaker 3: line up this way and we call this, it's going

504
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Speaker 3: to go for a touchdown. In moments like that, as

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Speaker 3: you're practicing and as you study film, as you prepare

506
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Speaker 3: for an opponent in a given week, what leads to that, Like,

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Speaker 3: what is it that that kind of gets you to

508
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Speaker 3: that moment where you are that convicted that you feel

509
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Speaker 3: like I've seen enough to know this one's gonna go.

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Speaker 4: Those moments are awesome. You'd love to have a million

511
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Speaker 4: of them, because if it was as simple as, yeah,

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Speaker 4: this plays in a score, do that on every play.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's a when you have when you

514
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Speaker 4: feel comfortable and digesting what a defense is, you can

515
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Speaker 4: patternize the whys of why they call certain things and

516
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Speaker 4: and where that leaves them vulnerable. And then you know,

517
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Speaker 4: being afforded a full staff of individuals that are like minded,

518
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Speaker 4: that are willing to you know, piece together. If I say,

519
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Speaker 4: give me all the four by ones into the boundary

520
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Speaker 4: for the last five years, have the workers on staff

521
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Speaker 4: to be able to go find those And for me,

522
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Speaker 4: conviction is found through preparation. And so I try to

523
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Speaker 4: get to my I try to get myself to a

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Speaker 4: place of supreme understanding of what the opponent is each

525
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Speaker 4: and every week, and then you try to put plays

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Speaker 4: that put put the put them in buys really realistically

527
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Speaker 4: run in pass. There's nothing better than when you have

528
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Speaker 4: a you know, eleven people working together and you can

529
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Speaker 4: forecast results based on you know. That had to do

530
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Speaker 4: with a lot of assumptions on you know, whether or

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Speaker 4: not I could I thought the right guard could uh

532
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Speaker 4: uh could achieve the down block and actually execute it,

533
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Speaker 4: and the right tackle could get his down block, and

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Speaker 4: that you know that the center would the uh, the

535
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Speaker 4: center would be pulling on the appropriate targeted player and

536
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Speaker 4: then the runner being able to make a player miss

537
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 4: in space. These are all things that you know you

538
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 4: work towards knowing your own players and knowing the defense.

539
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 4: I try to get myself there every week where I

540
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: can predictably say, all right, well we catch this coverage

541
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Speaker 4: and this front, whether it's a run or pass play this,

542
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 4: if we execute our fundamentals and execute points of emphasis,

543
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 4: this will go for a touchdown. And when you put

544
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Speaker 4: it all together and you're able to see that succeed,

545
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: it's worth every ounce of time, amount of energy that

546
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 4: you put forth to be able to do something collectively

547
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 4: together and that hopefully we have a ton of those

548
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: in store for us moving forward.

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Speaker 1: That's the idea.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk personnel. Everywhere you've gone, you've been able to

551
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 2: maximize the talent with the guys that were on the roster,

552
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: you know from r G three offered Boris Garsone, the

553
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: Atlanta guys players like Deebo and then Tyreek and Waddle.

554
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Speaker 2: What do you make of the personnel here when we

555
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: talk about Hampton and Videll in the backfield, we know

556
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Speaker 2: justin some of the talented young wide receivers led by

557
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Speaker 2: Ladi McConkey. Your initial impressions of the personnel.

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Speaker 4: Here, well, It's one of the reasons I was so

559
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: convicted early is because you know, all the when you

560
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Speaker 4: talk about the skill players, particularly at running back and

561
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Speaker 4: wide receiver and tight end, you know, all all the

562
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Speaker 4: guys that have been accumulated through the draft in the

563
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 4: last two years were guys that were in high priority

564
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Speaker 4: you know when I was in in Miami, and guys

565
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Speaker 4: that you could build stuff around.

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Speaker 1: I think.

567
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Speaker 4: There isn't a skill untapped. I think there's football players

568
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Speaker 4: across the board with versatility. I think, you know, being

569
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Speaker 4: able to use some of the skill sets that you know,

570
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Speaker 4: I know both backs possessed in the past game will

571
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 4: be very advantageous. I think getting the ball into the

572
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Speaker 4: hands of all you know, all three receivers and the

573
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Speaker 4: tight end realistically, are the my favorite problems to solve

574
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Speaker 4: because I know they have They're they're not just one

575
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: trick ponies as football players. They all have an adept

576
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 4: skill set to separate versus man coverage, which is what

577
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Speaker 4: you the non negotiable thing that players have to be

578
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 4: able to do or you find players that are able

579
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: to do. They they all possess that, so being able

580
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: to utilize their football skill sets within a timing, an

581
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Speaker 4: orchestrated system where each there's not really I don't have

582
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Speaker 4: plays that are standalone plays. If if there's any play

583
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Speaker 4: in our offense that we put out there, you know,

584
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Speaker 4: I think it's important to know how a defense can

585
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: take it away and then what they're making themselves vulnerable

586
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: too if.

587
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: They try to take it away.

588
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: Having all plays interwoven together so that there's no standalone

589
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: plays and that you have this, you know, I'm not

590
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: worried about the skill sets in the least. I think

591
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: we have all the things that we need necessary and

592
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 4: I look forward to these guys reaching, you know, their

593
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: their boyhood dreams of what they saw themselves as football players,

594
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 4: including Justin, because I think there's a level of tap

595
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Speaker 4: that I'm eager to be.

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Speaker 3: A part of last one for your coach, You're more

597
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: just a football man, You're a man.

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Speaker 1: I thank you.

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Speaker 3: We've heard you talk about how you like southern California.

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Speaker 3: So if if Bolt fam is interested in stalking you,

601
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 3: where are some of your place? Where are they going

602
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: to is a lost bricess like where they are you

603
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 3: paddling out at lowers? Like where are they going to

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Speaker 3: find you?

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to see where where we're going to live.

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Speaker 4: I've I've spent time in Manhattan and Hermosa starting point,

607
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: and then I've worked my way down to Newport, Coasta

608
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Speaker 4: Mesa and uh Laguna and all the way down to

609
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 4: Dana Point. So all those places are live. You'll you'll

610
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: probably see me uh in and around town and during

611
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 4: vacation times because this is the place that I came

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Speaker 4: for vacation. So now I just get to work there,

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Speaker 4: which I know is a win for my wife and daughter,

614
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Speaker 4: which is very important to me. So uh any sort

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Speaker 4: of park with my daughter in the foreseeable future, I

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00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: will probably be at. So if there's a lot of

617
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Speaker 4: Chargers fans that have nothing to do outside, just go

618
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: to a park, I'll be there. At some point we're

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Speaker 4: all girl.

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Speaker 1: Dads too, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Let's go appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 4: Were another level of sophistication.

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Speaker 2: I could see it.

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Speaker 3: Daughters, take my minor old enough to take care of me.

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00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: I much older than each of you. Yeah right, yes,

626
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Speaker 3: we apprecreciate you, man. We're looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've learned so much today from Mike

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Speaker 2: McDaniel in the forty bit of presser the fifteen twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes he spent with us. You and Petros had another

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Speaker 2: session with him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty good. He's look he's fun man.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be when when those when those pressers

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Speaker 3: would post midweek, it was always, you know, must listen

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Speaker 3: to and I'm excited to be able to do it

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Speaker 3: for for coach McDaniel now, you know, I always look

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Speaker 3: forward to listening to him whenever they posted just so

647
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: much great football information. And like you said, he's detailed.

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Speaker 3: He's not afraid to answer with football jargon. He doesn't

649
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: feel like it's above that, he's above the press. He's

650
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 3: totally happy to talk x's and o's and schematics. And

651
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: I do think, just to kind of wrap up a

652
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: couple of the other thoughts from the presser and from

653
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: that conversation as I nod over to the sofa there

654
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 3: that we had with him, you know, the one thing

655
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: that I really liked that he said a lot of

656
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 3: stuff I liked, but the one thing that really stood

657
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 3: out because I think about when people look at McVeigh

658
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: and Shanahan and this this group of coaches, I think

659
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: they often just think of a play sheet and oh

660
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: they got him with that play, and they got oh

661
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 3: that was a great call right there.

662
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: I love that he pointed out like plays.

663
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: Or plays got to have an offense, and it's it's

664
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: all about building this offense, this identity you know that

665
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: you've got to have, and that he talked about an identity,

666
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 3: you know, like when he was asked, what is it,

667
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: uz Well to try to keep your quarterback healthy for

668
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: seventeen games, to give him some easy buttons, to make

669
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: sure that you're not asking him to pressure himself on

670
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: every single drop back, like I have to do something incredible,

671
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 3: but to provide that to win games in January, and

672
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: then he said, to have an offense, you know, to

673
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: have this identity like when you think of when you

674
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 3: think of Miami's offense, what did you think you thought of?

675
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: Balls out falls on time and man, lookout because here

676
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: come guys with crazy speed and the offensive line is

677
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 3: constantly moving. There's a million motions all over the place

678
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 3: to screw up your eyes. So I'm anxious to see

679
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: what that offense is with a big back like a Marion,

680
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: you know, with bigger receivers like Trey Harris and Quinton

681
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: you know, with the athletes that are Ronde Gadsden and

682
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: lad with your tackles, those massive tackles, Like it's going

683
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 3: to be fun to see what he builds and because

684
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: it's not a series of plays, it's not just oh,

685
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 3: you know, this is going to go for sixty yards

686
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: if we get the right that's part of it. But

687
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: you know, it's gonna be fun to see what what

688
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: it ultimately looks like. And you know what those first

689
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 3: fifteen plays kind of show us in that first regular

690
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: season game.

691
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: And what's crazy is that we're at the foundation of

692
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: it now and we have the free agency, we have

693
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: the drafts. There's gonna be more offensive guys that come out.

694
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: The staff is I was talking about, staff is the

695
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: most important Thingu's the next domino to fall. He talked

696
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: about there's offensive line coach, and he's got some guys

697
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: yet he has his eyes on. But there's also some

698
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: guys here that you just want to make sure it's

699
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: the right fit, right because you're you're coming from a

700
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: guy like Greg Roman, who may have some familiar with

701
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: some of those guys versus Mike McDaniel. So I think

702
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: over the next couple of weeks, with some of these

703
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 2: head coaching jobs getting solidified, Joe Brady today, I think,

704
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: like Brian da Ball's going to Tennessee. So a lot

705
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: of these teams are going to kind of be put

706
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 2: in a place over the next.

707
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Couple of year, no doubt.

708
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: Once they get settled, everybody knows where they can go,

709
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: what title will they have. I know Frank Smith is

710
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: interviewing for a lot of us. See I don't think

711
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 3: I've seen that he's gotten one yet, so I think

712
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: so you know, that to me is an obvious.

713
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: He brought in the Atlanta offensive line coaches, is rug

714
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: game coordinator of Baltimore.

715
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 3: So you know, those will all get settled and we'll see,

716
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 3: you know, ultimately what it looks like. But just listening

717
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,240
Speaker 3: to him today, I would like you said, highly recommend

718
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: you got a lot of homework Bolt fam. You know,

719
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: go listen to the press or it's fantastic and you

720
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: know we're looking forward to it. Hopefully they'll make them

721
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: available to us in training camp like they always do,

722
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: and we'll be able to kind of get a read

723
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: on where this.

724
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: Thing is headed.

725
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: That's on the Super Bowl.

726
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: Excited for Sam Darnold. I know a lot of people

727
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: are saying that here in town, but that's just you know,

728
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: from the one town, one team San Clementy. You know,

729
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: we've we've known Sabain doing our radio you know, Petros

730
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: and I've been doing the radio show for twenty years,

731
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: so you know, we've had our eyes on Sam for

732
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 3: a long time. It's a great family. He's a great dude,

733
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: considering how weird football can be based on where you

734
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: get drafted, who your coaches are, what's available to you,

735
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 3: what's not available to you. To see him, you know,

736
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: on his fifteen kind of show off, what a lot

737
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: of people thought he could be with that number three

738
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: overall pick A lot of people thought he was going

739
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 3: to go number one to the Browns, like that's ultimately.

740
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: What it is pro day in the Puring Rain, right,

741
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: and I thought that that was the lot that was it.

742
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so to to see him perform the way

743
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: he did against the Rams, he was not part of that.

744
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 3: He was he drove the truck. He was not a trailer,

745
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 3: you know, he was he was the driver of the

746
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: truck in that win. So it's great to see that. So, yeah,

747
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: I'm clearly pulling for him because that's you know, we

748
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: always try to find that connection. I'm pulling for Chenna,

749
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: one of our favorites. Yeah, So I would love to

750
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: see Chenna get a Super Bowl champion.

751
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: We got a guy Hunter on the other side.

752
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's that's very true. Love Hunter.

753
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: So if so, I guess either way it works. You know,

754
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: he got a Hunter on one side, and you know,

755
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: how do you not like Mike Vrabel and Drake May Like,

756
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 3: it works both ways. But yeah, selfishly, I'd love to

757
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: see Sam Darnold win a Super Bowl. I'd be pretty

758
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 3: freaking sweet.

759
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: You know, watching that AFC Championship, it was kind of

760
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: tough knowing that the charges were down those tackles, man,

761
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: because it felt like this was the year, this was

762
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: the year in the AFC. If you were going to

763
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: do it, that was that was the shot. And we

764
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: the two stops. We went Denver in New England, and

765
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: I'll tell you, man, I.

766
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: Have four points left on the table against Houston, Like

767
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 3: there's there's yeah, there's I don't think we would have

768
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, to me, I think ultimately it probably

769
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 3: would have looked like, hopefully knock off Denver, go to

770
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 3: Buffalo and you want to talk about a heavyweight fight,

771
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: you know, Josh Allen versus Herbert That would have been

772
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 3: a lot of fun, especially considering the weather.

773
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: It would have been like six feet of snow.

774
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, look that's the tough part. And and all

775
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: the credit to New England. I know a lot of

776
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: people are sort of giving them a little bit of

777
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: heat because of the path. It's like, oh, well, you

778
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,439
Speaker 3: beat the Chargers without tackles, you beat a Texans team

779
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: where CJ. Stroud was losing his mind, no Nico Collins,

780
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: no Dalton Schultz, and then you beat the Broncos without

781
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,959
Speaker 3: Bonix or whatever.

782
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: That's their path.

783
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 2: It'd be three awesome defense.

784
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the exactly they They were able to win

785
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: games where they scored ten and sixteen points. Those are

786
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: two wins they had. The defense had to carry him

787
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: and they did. And it'll be a great Super Bowl.

788
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: I'm very much looking forward to it and very happy.

789
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: I'm not going, well, not as happy as if I

790
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: were going with the Chargers. But you know what I'm saying.

791
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: I used to go to the Super Bowls every year and

792
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 3: I hate it every second.

793
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: You don't want to go to San Jose, so I

794
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 2: just don't.

795
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to Radio Row. No, thank you.

796
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 3: I don't need Troy Aikman selling me on Washington Apples

797
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: and Terry Bradshaw pushing me on a hundred grand bars.

798
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: You know, I just I'm not interested Steinberg's party, which

799
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 3: is always cool, but like everyone that's talking to you

800
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: is looking over you for who else is behind you,

801
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, I don't need that, man, I'm

802
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: content and sealed beach Man.

803
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: So you don't like the question you have to ask

804
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the interview, like, hey, so I

805
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: heard you guys have a new glove you're working with.

806
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: Tell me about it.

807
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: I would always when I would do it, I would

808
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: always try and I realized that not everybody can This

809
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 3: is going to sound terrible and condescending, but not everyone

810
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,720
Speaker 3: can think on their feet that's being asked to push

811
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: these products. Because I would always try to work it

812
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: into conversation. But like, let me tell you fill in

813
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 3: the blank. I'm a big cereal guy. Let's just say.

814
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: And it's been a long night. I'm out till like

815
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: three in the morning, and I wake up a little

816
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: early and trash truck came and I'm just I got

817
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 3: this pound. Is there a Is there a cereal that

818
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 3: you can think of that like what would what would

819
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 3: help that go away?

820
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: More than anything? And they'd be like, I.

821
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 3: Don't know, man, like you are drinking last night and

822
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, you're here pushing Kashi. Can you just just

823
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: I'm I'm walking you to it, man, can you just

824
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 3: can you walk with me?

825
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: And like that stuff would drive dude.

826
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: You probably have a Hall of Fame Hall of Fame

827
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: clip of all these, I wish, I wish I had it.

828
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 2: I wish.

829
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's well, you know the best one we had

830
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 3: because damn of Sheck and I used to do it.

831
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: And you know how SHK is, Yeah, he and I

832
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: are you know, unfortunately share the same stupid brain for

833
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: this sort of stuff. And I remember, uh when Patrick

834
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: Mahomes was coming into the draft and it was hilarious

835
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: because his handlers were like, you can't do this, and

836
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: so SHEK and I are like, hey, well you mind

837
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: doing it? Because I told Shek I was like, hey,

838
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: you know this guy was a picture and he's like,

839
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: So I was like, let's let's get Mahomes to do

840
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: a little something with us. And I'm sure if you

841
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: so YouTube, you'll find it online. And so we set

842
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: it up and we finally get the guy to say

843
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: it listen. I was like, we're not gonna sue. You

844
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: don't worry about it. Just let's do this. So we

845
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: he and I are talking and we're eating pastries, and

846
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 3: we're like, uh, what do you think the if someone

847
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 3: were to hit you with a pastry?

848
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: What do you think will hit.

849
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: The rest of this?

850
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: And so we're like, I don't know. If only we

851
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 3: had someone that could help us, Patrick Mahomes And we're like, hey, Pat,

852
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 3: can you can you throw.

853
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: This blueberry muffin?

854
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 5: It's Scheck here and and Shuk stands with his hands

855
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 5: on his hip and Mahomes throws this fastball and it

856
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 5: hits Sheck in the gut and you can.

857
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: Hear this come out of his mouth. And we're like, yeah,

858
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: I think it's the muffin.

859
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 3: And the next day Sheck shows me his stomach and

860
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: he's got this gigantic bruise. I think, oh yeah, move

861
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: my Homes through like an eighty mile an hour fastball

862
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: right his gut with a blueberry muffin. So things like

863
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 3: that were fun.

864
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: This is what you miss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what the people miss because they just get

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Speaker 3: the people are.

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Speaker 1: Like, so, Patrick, you're here talking about Wrangler jeans. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you like about him?

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Speaker 2: You know, so we'll go to the Combine Radio row.

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Speaker 2: He's actually much more fun.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right. We'll do it at the Combine in about

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Speaker 1: three or four weeks, Chris.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, h this was a fun week the

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel podcast earlier this week. Will uh, we'll be

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Speaker 2: back next week.

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Speaker 3: And and by the way, he wouldn't throw the scone

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Speaker 3: at me because he was so upset by how it

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Speaker 3: affected Sack, how he heard check. He could tell that

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Speaker 3: Shck was hurt. And I was like, all right, it's

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Speaker 3: time for the scone.

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Speaker 1: Patrick.

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Speaker 3: He's like, not not doing kid, He's like, trust me,

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Speaker 3: we'll be fine. It's like, m No, I was this

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Speaker 3: when he was going coming in he was coming.

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Speaker 1: Into the draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was at Texas Tech and he was just

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Speaker 3: doing the rounds kind of talking about whatever.

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Speaker 1: Coming into the league. He's such a cool guy.

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Speaker 3: We were like, dude, that guy's going to be a

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Speaker 3: you know, he's freaking awesome.

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Speaker 2: And those are the types of moments where like I'm

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Speaker 2: about to get draft, I always do everything the right way.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to cause the scene and throw this

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Speaker 2: scone at my head.

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Speaker 1: Exactly all right.

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Speaker 2: For Buddy I'm Chris has been charges weekly. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you guys next week.

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Speaker 1: Step steep

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