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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: We are thank you, Jake Valentine. We are the authorities

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Speaker 2: on all R and B.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine.

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Speaker 3: This is the R and B Money Podcast.

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Speaker 4: The authority tell him what it is on all things.

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Speaker 1: R and B. Can I add family to that?

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Speaker 4: R and B Ribs and Barbie and family.

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Speaker 1: Ribs and barbecue. Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Uh today, m hmm. This is the start of a

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Speaker 3: beautiful day, mister Valentine. We are in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: We're on the soil. Yeah, we got we got our

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Speaker 2: feet in the grass. You see what I'm saying. We

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Speaker 2: are at Enore Studios. Now, you't know what's special about

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Speaker 2: Eni Studio. Especial about this studio.

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Speaker 3: Man me, there's a boy, he little boy.

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Speaker 1: Boy been raising his little boy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A songwriter, a producer, a businessman.

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Speaker 1: Sir, you haven to see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Because when you get the credits and you get the money,

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Speaker 3: you gotta do something with it. Yeah, you gotta turn

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Speaker 3: into something larger than life. The legacy has to be

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Speaker 3: something tangible that you can pass down to your chip.

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Speaker 2: H oh.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to dwell too much on the intro.

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Speaker 1: I want to get to the.

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Speaker 2: Nigga grety of what the fuck is going on?

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Speaker 1: We are in this man's studio, E.

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Speaker 2: Norse Studios in Atlanta, our Forrida Georgia, and he's here

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Speaker 2: in the building.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk that ship. Give it up a little,

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Speaker 1: Ronnie and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to Atlanta, baby, Yeah, welcome to Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having us, brother man, thank you guys

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Speaker 2: for coming.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't wait for this. Yeah, I couldn't wait for this.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been there?

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Speaker 4: We go back, man, it's a long time.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: We go back to your first bends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the one I got kicked out. We got back.

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Speaker 2: We go back to your first bends. You fremendous for

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Speaker 2: having that.

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Speaker 1: Look get that, We get this. Wait a minute, my sons,

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Speaker 1: where was he?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Listen, bro, you've you've always been up to something. That's

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Speaker 2: a great way to put it. Always always, always, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you've always seen that thing through yeah m hmm.

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Speaker 1: Always. Somebody always say, oh, you ain't seen a little

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Speaker 1: right such much? Are you tripping?

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Speaker 3: You ain't been a little right such and such? No,

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Speaker 3: I ain't even know you have those like them. You

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Speaker 3: ain't like You've always been that.

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Speaker 4: Ryannie's the living boom boom room.

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Speaker 1: You ain't been a raised boom boom you heard about razoo.

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Speaker 2: Oh, everybody was up in there last night. That was

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Speaker 2: the Quaver was in there.

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Speaker 1: I know you.

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Speaker 2: It's one of them things like you have to, like

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Speaker 2: my dad just put in me. If you say you

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Speaker 2: go do something, do it.

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Speaker 4: And even matter if you you got to take the loss,

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Speaker 4: if it comes out your mouth, you need to stick

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Speaker 4: stick to it and do it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: So I've just always had big dreams and I just,

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Speaker 4: you know, wanted to make it happen.

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Speaker 2: Isn't there wasn't there an event at your house? What

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Speaker 2: was that at your house? That was at your house?

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Speaker 1: That was little? Yeah, at your house? Yeah? It was

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Speaker 1: crazy first of all, So why is Rodney's house so big? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: That I was stupid, man. It was a it was

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Speaker 4: a blessing. I mean, how can I say this.

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Speaker 2: I just always wanted to make money, enjoy what I

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Speaker 2: would I do, But also seeing all the people that

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Speaker 2: blew money and got to a certain level then didn't

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Speaker 2: have it anymore, right, nothing to show for it. So

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Speaker 2: I always just wanted to, Like you said, keep the

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Speaker 2: legacy going, like do something with the money. Anytime I

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Speaker 2: had a hit record, I would put some money over

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Speaker 2: to invest to go to another level.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean is some money at that

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Speaker 3: party too. At that party, yeah, yeah, I shot some

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Speaker 3: some NBA guys thought you sho did?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: The only shooters in the building with Kennith for Reid. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you have to name them.

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Speaker 2: You'll hear this, and like to what else was it?

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Speaker 1: Was it? Everybody?

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Speaker 6: You had?

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Speaker 1: Somebody? It was one of the what's my guy was

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Speaker 1: a ballaholic? Or was it hot sauce or no.

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Speaker 2: It was like like three or four guys, you know

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Speaker 2: Overseas league guys, you know, and one and then they

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Speaker 2: and they didn't know that the R and B guy.

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Speaker 3: Had a set shot.

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Speaker 1: Oh you want to you don't want to play five

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Speaker 1: from here? From here?

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Speaker 3: No problem? I see anybody with my set shot. I

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Speaker 3: want good money at your house, man. That's that's I

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Speaker 3: remember that day.

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Speaker 2: Finally, that was the goal of that house was just

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Speaker 2: to have great memories and a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I walked through the house. I was like that house insane,

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Speaker 1: Bro was insane? You live here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, doo doing pool?

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Speaker 4: You saying that right. The funniest thing is when that

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Speaker 4: episode happened with ray J.

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Speaker 1: He had just left my house, no way on everything.

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Speaker 4: He literally was at my house for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 4: and it was like white Rose Royce, black Rose Royce.

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Speaker 1: That's when I had a white woman and a black one.

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Speaker 2: That's when I had a white yeah, And it was okay,

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Speaker 2: we're not talking about a woman. We're talking about yeah

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Speaker 2: he was. And then he went with Mayweather and had

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Speaker 2: that whole I was like, Okay, ray get it baby,

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Speaker 2: popping it. Listen, I don't I don't care where you go

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Speaker 2: in the world. If there are three people in the

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Speaker 2: room having a conversation, they all had a moment with

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Speaker 2: ray J.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

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Speaker 4: Now, it's funny to have a new thing called threads.

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Speaker 1: Ray J is a threat. Ray J is the three

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Speaker 1: red is a thread.

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Speaker 4: Everybody can be attached to something.

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Speaker 2: Ray Yet absolutely be in this game. If you're not,

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Speaker 2: you don't know Ja, you ain't.

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Speaker 1: You ain't really got ray Jack A little Ronnie.

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Speaker 3: So let's get into the Let's get into the music,

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Speaker 3: all right, Let's get into the music, bro, Like, let's.

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Speaker 4: Go back city.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying ribs and barbecue, ribs, barbecue.

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Speaker 1: You know it's okay, I think it's Barbara. Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that. It's cool now.

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Speaker 2: It's everything from the everything, everything like everything. What are

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Speaker 2: you saying it's another barbecue plays in Kansas City. Are

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Speaker 2: you trying to go like barbecue or something is better

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Speaker 2: or something?

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, listen, I'm from Milwaukee, man, there

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Speaker 3: was a little.

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Speaker 1: Never heard anything Milwaukee barbecue. You got Milwaukee Bucks, you

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Speaker 1: got Milwaukee barbecue.

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Speaker 2: Because beer, y'all got bird, we got got bird, we

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Speaker 2: got bir AND's rib tips.

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Speaker 1: It was second to none.

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Speaker 3: And then well we had those into my My great

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Speaker 3: grandfather Paul Lewis used to get on that grill. Un

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Speaker 3: Norman used to get on that grill. I would roll

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Speaker 3: with you with that, I believe that. And they got

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Speaker 3: so by the time you know, you know, I go

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Speaker 3: to the famous places that you know, say they have

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Speaker 3: this city? Did they speak if they speak of the

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Speaker 3: barbecause I'm like I've had some home grown.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, home is different. Is it from anything that's an

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Speaker 2: actual like establishment? Because your uncle, my brother ron Ryn,

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Speaker 2: little black ass get to work and I will say this.

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Speaker 2: I've been a lot of places and people that know me. No,

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Speaker 2: y'all both know I love to eat. I mean Gates, Fireman,

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Speaker 2: Gates fire I like Gates fire Man.

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Speaker 3: I can't front on Gates. Maybe they had just pumped

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Speaker 3: it up so crazy for me that when I.

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Speaker 1: Find got it, I was like, No, it's that thing?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Let me let you hold on to that.

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Speaker 1: Then yeah, let's go there. Let's let's go there.

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Speaker 4: You want some sauce, because I got some sauce. You

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Speaker 4: go home with it and everything and put it on

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Speaker 4: your Memphis barbecue. I'm older, Let's get to Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: When was the moment?

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Speaker 3: When was when did you figure out that you know

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Speaker 3: that you could do this and and possibly do it

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Speaker 3: at a high level.

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Speaker 1: It was real early for me.

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Speaker 4: I went to performing arts schools. So I went to

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Speaker 4: uh performing arts middle school. Then I went to see

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Speaker 4: high school. I actually went to performing arts schools my

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Speaker 4: whole really yeah, grade school, middle school, in high school.

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Speaker 1: What was kind of like your major? I guess in

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Speaker 1: the sense music?

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Speaker 3: Just music, yeah, musicians right alto sex yeah, okay, all state?

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Speaker 4: Oh huh, middle school, high school, first year state.

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Speaker 1: About the church, it's really band can't.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Kansas City is known for jazz of course,

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Speaker 4: you know, so we had one of the top bands

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Speaker 4: in the nation.

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Speaker 1: Can you beat Cosion playing the sacks. I will let

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Speaker 1: Cosion have sacks off, but I let him live. He said,

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Speaker 1: you live live, Let Coach live. Bring my sacks out.

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Speaker 4: I'll be like Coach out there, you know, doing national anthems.

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Speaker 5: Bro he.

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Speaker 1: Don't want, don't want, he don't want that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah, okay, performing, come on me.

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Speaker 1: We actually had First of all.

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Speaker 2: I'm a church nigga said that because I'm a church

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Speaker 2: nigga too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before school in church.

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Speaker 3: We just a badass church.

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Speaker 4: So growing up, you gotta play whatever to make it

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Speaker 4: through Sunday service, you know what I mean. My dad's

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Speaker 4: incredible pianist, organist, father's a preacher, uncles or bishop's grandmother,

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Speaker 4: church state.

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Speaker 1: Mother. It's all official. You know what I'm saying. Ko Church,

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Speaker 1: you know, so I had to had to play.

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Speaker 4: What was great is my family is a pretty big

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Speaker 4: family in Kansas City, well known. So my teachers knew

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Speaker 4: my family and they wouldn't let me play the instruments

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Speaker 4: I played at church. So it was like, no, you

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Speaker 4: can't play. You got you gotta do something different. So

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Speaker 4: that was instilled in me and I started playing all

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Speaker 4: the wood winds. And then middle school we had a

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Speaker 4: program called Applied Technology Music Theory. We were basically making

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Speaker 4: beats on kate walk m.

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Speaker 1: Hmm in middle school. So in a performing our.

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Speaker 4: School, everybody got a group. Everybody's a rapper, everybody's a singer. Man,

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Speaker 4: somebody's like, yo, we heard you. You're making beats. Can

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Speaker 4: we get some stuff?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 4: I sold my first beat for fifty dollars when in

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Speaker 4: middle school, I said, oh, this is popping.

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Speaker 1: I made this in five minutes.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna give me whole fifty.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know it's an extra money because we already

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Of the people that come

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Speaker 4: Pops did not play that, Like my pops will be like,

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Speaker 4: But if you negotiate from the beginning and get what

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Speaker 4: be said, I should have played at your father. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what wasn't no free baby do that?

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Speaker 1: This church we do that. I got a bunch of

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So I mean after I was doing all

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Speaker 4: forget my homeboy, Romeo Rondell. Here's a big barber in

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Speaker 4: the city. But he also had a label, and man,

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Speaker 4: he started buying all my beats, all of them.

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Speaker 1: It's called barber shop records. Start buying records. I get it.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Romeo round now, Like he was the

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Speaker 1: Like, yo, man, you gonna make it.

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Speaker 4: He was like, your your music is musical. It's not

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Speaker 4: the regular stuff that's going on out here. He's like, man,

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Speaker 1: Like what year is this? This is.

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Speaker 4: I graduated in two thousand and one, so this is nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Who you in middle school? School?

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Speaker 2: High school? All your yeah, buying beats? Are you making?

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Speaker 4: I'm making him at Katewalk at this time?

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Speaker 4: So then what ends up happening again? Another when your

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Speaker 1: It was a cat named don Juan. He's a big producer.

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Speaker 4: He did all Tech nine stuff, like he still do

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Speaker 4: So don Juan, my daddy put him on as a

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Speaker 4: So middle school, I asked one his cousin, I'm like, yo, Where'sdwan.

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Speaker 4: He was like, yo, bro, that's don Juan. Like he's

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Speaker 2: Tech nine is his artist. I'm like, what he making beats?

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Speaker 2: So he gives me his number. I call him.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, Dwan is this little Ronnie? He was like

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Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm making beats. And then he

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Speaker 4: Was like, what's wrong. He was like, Nigga, I didn't

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Speaker 4: put it two and two together. I've been hearing your

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Speaker 4: He was like, tell your daddy brings you out to

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Speaker 1: And he was in the suburbs. He was making making money.

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Speaker 4: That bad Take nine, he's killing fifty seventh Street road dogs.

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Speaker 1: Go out to his crib studios and home studio.

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Speaker 4: Incredible MPC, three thousands, tritons, trinities, dat machines, everything you

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Speaker 4: Pops did wonders for my life. I'm gonna help you

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Speaker 4: out do the same thing. This is what you need

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Speaker 4: to do. I'm give you all my sounds to my MPC.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have.

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Speaker 4: All the you know, that's a big thing starting out

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Speaker 1: I hate it.

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Speaker 3: Sound bro gave me. He was like, you have to

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Speaker 3: No it was it was crazy. So he basically gave

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Speaker 3: me the blueprint. He's like, get you a trite and

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Speaker 3: this shit is spensive. So I had to get a job.

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Speaker 4: I worked at white Castle's churches.

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Speaker 1: Chicken they was all at one was a.

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Speaker 4: Lifeguard and that was the difference too, Like all your

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Speaker 4: friends be like, bro, why are you why are you working?

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Speaker 4: It's like, man, how I'm supposed to pay for this equipment?

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Speaker 4: So just start hustling.

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Speaker 3: But that's where the hustle starts, right, And that's where

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Speaker 3: whether you really got passion for what you're willing to do.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying in terms of doing what

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Speaker 4: I tell producers all the time how easy they have

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Speaker 1: Go get some drums off of a website, like you

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Speaker 4: You don't have to hook no many time piece up

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Speaker 3: I bought a music store was going out of business

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Speaker 3: and was selling like all of their CDs for like

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Speaker 3: on like fifty cent or something like that. I bought

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Speaker 3: would just have sampling days all day.

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Speaker 2: Trying to find an open spot for that that snare

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Speaker 1: Like just getting that, trying to get that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not on the mouse and dragging it and dropping

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Speaker 1: What came from a different day. It's crazy, super crazy.

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Speaker 1: Well it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't just put it in another key, yeah, because you.

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Speaker 1: Felt like you know what I was talking about.

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Speaker 4: To one of my interns, I was like, bro, y'all,

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Speaker 1: We had to open up the manual and read all

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Speaker 2: What they meant or know somebody and go to their

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Speaker 2: the older guy that'll be irritated if you're trying to

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Speaker 2: call them, like he's like, hey, bro, read the book.

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Speaker 1: First, like that, that's on like the first two pages.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking my daughter the other day because we're just

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Speaker 3: like on social media, and I said, you are so

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Speaker 3: happy that you're asking these questions. I'm saying, you want

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Speaker 3: the information. I was like, unfortunately, some of this information

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Speaker 3: I don't have. I said, but guess what, there are tutorials,

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Speaker 1: Yeah you kidding me? Yeah, it's crazy. I say.

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Speaker 3: You are young, you are still absorbing. Search out the

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Speaker 3: information you want and download that information. Yeah, I wish,

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Speaker 3: I wish we have, man.

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Speaker 1: What that's how our pers were talking to us.

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Speaker 2: If y'all had right now, this is the truth though,

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Speaker 2: it is it is if I could take this information.

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Speaker 1: Back then the twenty four year old me, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Or if I could bring the twenty four year old

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Speaker 3: to this space right now, I was a maniac.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's super crazy.

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Speaker 4: So after don Jan gave me the game, then it's

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Speaker 4: just like I think, while me and Jay became like brothers,

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Speaker 4: because like Kansas City and the Bay are like intertwined.

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Speaker 4: For sure, It's it's crazy, like the city is a

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Speaker 4: So what ended up happening like Young Mouth of be

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Speaker 4: Pops had to come to me one day, it's like niggas.

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Speaker 4: You selling drugs like these niggas coming in with all

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Speaker 4: the gold teeth and slanging beats.

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Speaker 3: You get your jobs right, you get your money together right. Okay,

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Speaker 3: what equipment did you buy?

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Speaker 4: MPC three thousand was my second purchase. First purchase was

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Speaker 4: the Triton. Did you did you try to learn the

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Speaker 4: sequence on the tripe? Had to had to. My setup

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Speaker 4: it'll triggered up my drums.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you just have to have a little for

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Speaker 1: the eight bar loop on the drum, and like you

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Speaker 4: Know, then you you elevate this a little bit more money,

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Speaker 4: get that Proteus two thousand and more.

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Speaker 2: Fat, but you just got the regular stock. Yet you

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Speaker 3: We used to kill me as you start talking about

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Speaker 3: those modules. When I first met Timberland, I understood why

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Speaker 4: He got everything first unlimited.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know this was a until I would buy

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Speaker 3: That came out maybe two years later that Timberland had

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Speaker 3: already used the sounds.

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Speaker 1: You used all the good sounds already. It already used

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I wasted money. It's like two sounds

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Speaker 3: in here. But you got the racks going and so

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Speaker 3: and so when it okay, he gave you the game.

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Speaker 3: You were already selling fifty dollars beats. When do you

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Speaker 3: get to that next level where these guys are coming over,

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Speaker 3: because the guys you're naming our guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they the five hundred dollars level. They give you

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Speaker 1: that five hundred How did you get there? Though? How

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Speaker 1: did they know? How did they hear about you? Just

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Speaker 1: basically through the connections.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, been in the city because you know, you got

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Speaker 2: a small city. So all the rappers start and all

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Speaker 2: the rappers from the Bay they go to Kansas City

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Speaker 4: It's a huge market for Bay Area artists.

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Speaker 2: So if you got a record that's breaking in the Bay,

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Speaker 2: it's breaking in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: It's just a.

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Speaker 2: Sister city in Kansas City and Detroit. Me from the Bay,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like Eve forty two short

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Speaker 2: be legit every saying Quinn, all of these artists that

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Speaker 4: Kansas City was an immediate.

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Speaker 5: Go to, okay, like.

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Speaker 4: You had to go there because our two big rappers

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Speaker 4: at the time was Tech nine and Risk the Factor.

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Speaker 1: So they were like everywhere, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And they do shows together they like it really is

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it got it got jumping pretty fast.

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Speaker 2: But like they had money, so it wouldn't they would

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Speaker 2: come by one beat, They'll come by ten at a time.

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Speaker 4: Because at that independent game, they told you at this point,

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Speaker 4: I'm like sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Tell them five dollars beats. I'm rich.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you in the bundle as a bundle too though,

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Speaker 2: I'm rich ten of them, so five thousand, sixteen, I'm

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was cooking. I'm rich. They can't tell

446
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: me nothing.

447
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: What was your first outside music purchase? J was getting

448
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: to ask you to beat them to.

449
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: It because you ain't got no rent, no, And I was.

450
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: I was scared because because Pops was like, okay, if

451
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 4: you ain't selling drugs, like how much money you making?

452
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: Right?

453
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 4: So I got scared I'm like, man, this nigga ba.

454
00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: Take my money tation Yeah, And he was like, nah,

455
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: just show it to me. So I showed him like

456
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: ten fifteen thousand, and he was like, man, I'm proud

457
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: of you.

458
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna ask you for the rank. I want

459
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: you to be here safe. You know what I mean.

460
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 4: It's like keep on going. It's like, as long as

461
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: you're getting your money support.

462
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 2: Who would you buy bro more No outside outside of

463
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: you bought nothing outside of music.

464
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: No, because Kansas City is dangerous.

465
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 4: I could Yeah, it is what you about to do, right,

466
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 4: Like no, I would just buy more equipment than you

467
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 4: got digit double O one And that was like that

468
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 4: that that till Macintosh.

469
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, fat back, which fa back? What I'm saying with that,

470
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: did you double one? Did you get the inbox two?

471
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: You got the inbox pro to inbox? Wasn't it was?

472
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 5: It was?

473
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: It was digit double? What it was? That was like

474
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: the first two channel you know, you had your mic

475
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: do it and everything.

476
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 4: Then I started the studio business. It's fifty dollars an hour.

477
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 4: Where was it at the house?

478
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: So you were you was you was engineering the whole thing, man,

479
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: mac dre all of them in there. I'm engineering and

480
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: probably just letting you do your thing.

481
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: It was a musical house, so it was always loud music.

482
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so rap music different. It's different and the element

483
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: is different.

484
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: But when popsy, you're making money.

485
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: Money that's coming in, make it to get to it.

486
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: I'd rather you be here in my house and I'm

487
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: making sure everybody good, you know what I mean.

488
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: Then you be going to their studio, have them come

489
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: to the house.

490
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And where are y'all living in Kan City suburbs?

491
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: In the hood.

492
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 4: Wasn't no suburbs. We didn't get out of suburbs. So

493
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 4: I started making some money.

494
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: Where's in the hood?

495
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: Straight up? Niggas was pulling up that they need that.

496
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Need that heatga, that's crazy.

497
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 2: So you're doing all this middle Kansas City in the

498
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: hood sixteen seventeen. Yeah, Are you already focused on getting

499
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: out of KC and kind of going to the big

500
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: leagues onto some LA Miami, New York, Atlanta play yet?

501
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: Or are you still just like, you know what, I'm

502
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: getting money in KC. I'm not focused on that. Yeah,

503
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: I was.

504
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 4: You always have that in your head, but you don't

505
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 4: have to know how and you don't have the connections

506
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: just yet.

507
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: So it's like, if I keep.

508
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: On building up, niggas go hear about me, you know

509
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 4: what I mean. So I kept on building, kept on building.

510
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 4: And then when you build yourself up in your city,

511
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 4: you start getting favor from people, you know what I mean,

512
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: the security guards.

513
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: You can get backstage. Oh that's a little Ronnie.

514
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: Then that started giving me opportunity to meet the celebrities

515
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 4: when they would come in. And then I had the

516
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: advantage of having cousins that were signed to R. Kelly, Oh, Keith,

517
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: because Keith Forrell, you got Marlin, you got Bishop Young down,

518
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Ernest Dixon, you know, so

519
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 4: they had already had that experience, but then they were

520
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 4: back in the city, like you got to understand Bishop

521
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: Ernest Dixon wrote.

522
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: Stutter yeah, you know.

523
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 4: For Joe, yeah, he wrote, liar, You're a cheater, you

524
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

525
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: So it was like bro Idea.

526
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: When he would pull up, he had that. That's when

527
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: the navigator first came out. You spent that one hundred thousand.

528
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: I'm doing this.

529
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: He rich for real. So you had that right and

530
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: they will.

531
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 4: Always come over, you know, what I'm saying, and we

532
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: would make music and do different stuff.

533
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: And what's crazy is they were R. Kelly fanatics. I

534
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: didn't even like R. Kelly his music then.

535
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't get it, you know what I'm saying.

536
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: I was like, bro, he all right, how are you

537
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 4: six things?

538
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

539
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: And I really didn't listen to secular music like that,

540
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: not because my parents were strict and said you couldn't

541
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: listen to it. The guy had to rehearse, so I

542
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: would just be listening to gospel music or playing jazz

543
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: or playing classical. So we're in the same place, yuh,

544
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: except he was doing music for the Bay Area rappers to.

545
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: That, right. I mean he had that element. But I

546
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: know why he didn't get R.

547
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: Kelly at first because he was still a purist as

548
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: a musician, you know what I'm saying. And he was

549
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: still very much in that element. So when I first

550
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: heard Kelly, I was like, this is dude's singing flat,

551
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: sure's all over the place. What is this like?

552
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: It didn't.

553
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: I didn't catch it at first, and then one day

554
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, he's awesome.

555
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that guy.

556
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: He's that guy.

557
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: And I used to.

558
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: Listen to a lot of unreleased records because they would

559
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 4: have you you know what I mean, Like, man, it

560
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: was a version of I Believe I Can Fly that

561
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: I don't even think people have ever heard like it

562
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 4: just went to ten different places and was like a

563
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: full story. So with them having that experience, you know

564
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: what I mean, they would come in and write with me.

565
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 4: So with me and everything they had got out they

566
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 4: deal with R. Kelly, they were back home. Then that's

567
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 4: when the opportunity came with Jermaine Duprix, So basically JD.

568
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: We ended up getting backstage. It was a screen tour

569
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: and my cousins they sung for JD.

570
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: JD was like, Yo, niggas called the niggas called talent.

571
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, talent niggas called you know they on the what

572
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: the tupacs on. That's just the way it is. That's talent.

573
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 4: And Jermaine was in between his deals at the time.

574
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 4: He had just left Sony and then he ended up

575
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: getting this deal at Aristo right with La, So he

576
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: was like, man, it's my word.

577
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: Once I get my next deal, I'm gonna come back

578
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: and rock with y'all.

579
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: And he was like, and we forgot the shout out

580
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: earl Oh we forgot Yes, yeah, to me, he was

581
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: he was the jojo of their group. Absolutely, he was

582
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: the jojo of their group in my opinion. So yeah,

583
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: I got guy too.

584
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 4: So we go through that whole situation and Jermaine actually

585
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: comes back and he was like, who's doing all your music?

586
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: It's like our cousin and that that's what put put

587
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: me on to that next level. Now, when I got

588
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: on that website as a social dead producer went up

589
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: that that's what happened.

590
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 4: That's what happened.

591
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so they added your name to the production crew

592
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 1: they had.

593
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: So now I'm in Kansas City, Yes, signed to So

594
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: So Dead. Yeah you want be so Death?

595
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: You walking around different?

596
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: Oh it's different you walking around You still an eighteen

597
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: year No, I love it.

598
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Shout out to my man Chuck.

599
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: Two for five Yeah, you know yeah, two for five,

600
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: two for five, it was it was yeah, it was

601
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: two pictures for five dollars. I'm telling you, man, you

602
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: gotta learn how to hustle.

603
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: You gonna be all right, You're gonna be all right. Yeah.

604
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: So it was like, man, my family had did so

605
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 4: many solids for a lot of people. Like when I

606
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: was coming up. Everybody just wanted to help and support,

607
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So that's the that's the

608
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: Karnas City, just man.

609
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, so let's get me whereas Jay's trying to

610
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: get to how do you get out of Kansas? What

611
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: is that move? Is there is there a record or

612
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: some success that prompts you to make that move or

613
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: is it just like I'm feeling like I need to

614
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: be in a space where bigger things are happening.

615
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: No, that that move came naturally. But once we got

616
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 4: the deal with JD, it was like, oh, we got

617
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 4: to figure out you know, Atlanta.

618
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: It was more or less. So you went to Atlanta

619
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: first before you came to La. Yeah.

620
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: Remember I had already bought a house here.

621
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you did have your spoty.

622
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a house even before I came out

623
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: to La.

624
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

625
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, My first house was like two hundred and fifty thousand.

626
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: You know, I remember when houses was that. I remember

627
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: because Karen and Jimmy, you know, when they was playing

628
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: with the Falcons, they both they both had those houses.

629
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I want you believe in these houses. Yeah,

630
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: this was like two somethings and it.

631
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 4: Was like what Yeah what Yeah, yeah.

632
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Like four thousand square for the houses. I was saying,

633
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: what is what? It's crazy?

634
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is part of that. Now you're trying

635
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: to figure out how to move, move and beat down

636
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: where because now you have access absolutely. And that's how

637
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: me and Bao became so close because we was the youngest.

638
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 4: Niggas said so so deaf, you know what I'm saying.

639
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: And he'll be in there mad JD in there with

640
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 4: Usher and Mariah and he's like, man, nigga won't give

641
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: me no beats. I'm trying to write my own songs.

642
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, I make beats. He like, you got

643
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 4: studio too? Yeah, then we got to it. So that

644
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 4: was the So what was your studio when you got

645
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: you got when you got to Atlanta? It was in

646
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 4: my house. In the house, I had a nice bread

647
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: Yeah I remember, it's nice. Got the studio, I already

648
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 4: got all my equipment.

649
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean. So now it's just

650
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 3: a beautiful beat maker, engineer song.

651
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: Right, let's go.

652
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: So how much time do you spend in Atlanta before

653
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: you come to l A Atlanta?

654
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 4: It was just working, having having a place and the

655
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: connection again Damon. Tomman comes in the picture because he

656
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: knows my cousins right.

657
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: Because he they were they were with Damon before they

658
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: were with R Kelly.

659
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: Correct.

660
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: So that story is, you know, I was at the

661
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: house today they dated car service came.

662
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: I was there, So you go tell the story.

663
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you.

664
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: You jump in. Yeah, yeah, it was great, was great.

665
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: There was a battle between signing with Babyface or signing

666
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 4: with R Kelly.

667
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, somehow R Kelly wins. A car pulls up in.

668
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: The middle of the middle of the night, in the

669
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: middle of the night. I woke up. The niggas was

670
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: gone because we're all there.

671
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: We are studio house. It's a whole niggas boys club

672
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: that we when when working.

673
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: This is ninety.

674
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah.

675
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, this had been the second time in La at

676
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: Damon's house.

677
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they about to sign, They about to sign

678
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: with Babyface, and you know it's deal is done.

679
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: It was done. But them is my niggas.

680
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: We didn't created our own friendship bond as brothers.

681
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: Niggas like nig KALs doll.

682
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: You know, Nigga Country can't see nigga.

683
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: The nigga kells dog kill I'm like, y'all really about

684
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: to just y'all about to go to Chicago. Y'all out

685
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: like man, that car cup Nigga we count I'm like, nigga,

686
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: y'all about this pretty much signed tomorrow, Like y'all pretty

687
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: much about to sign y'all deal tomorrow. Y'all have met

688
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: with baby Face. Baby Face love y'all. It's a rap nigga.

689
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: He about to he ain't or killy nigga. You know,

690
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: they was gone, car came. Nigg I woke up, I

691
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: probably you know, I rise early, Nigga. I'm up early,

692
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: no matter what time I go to sleep. By the

693
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: time I woke up cracking dawn, them niggas was out.

694
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking around. I'm like, and I already know what's up. Nigga.

695
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 4: Damon, He's like, nigga, who the boys asking?

696
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: They gone bro out cold.

697
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 4: So there was probably on a six a m to Chicago.

698
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: Left left at fall, left to get there two hours before.

699
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they gone, they gone. Next time I talked to him,

700
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: they called me. They did in Chicago, laughing.

701
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: We just hooped, Nigga.

702
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: We just finished rub Nigga gone gone. So that's the

703
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: that's the connection. From from Damon.

704
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: So you know, they like, oh little Ronnie, he popping

705
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 4: in the city like it's going down.

706
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 5: Ye know.

707
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: He was so so deaf, blah blah blah.

708
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: Damon calls me and he like talking shit, Damon, Man,

709
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: how you go be from the hometown in Kancity and

710
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 4: you're supposed to be the hottest nigga.

711
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: Nigga, I'm the hottest nigga. I'm from Kansas City. He like,

712
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: you need to be down here with me, nigga. I'm like, bro,

713
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: what you be be down there with you? He was like,

714
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I'm with j D. Look at the charts.

715
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: You need to be down here.

716
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, man, I'll fly down there.

717
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: So I end up flying down there. Nigga didn't come back.

718
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: You just didn't come back.

719
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 4: Well, I had a house here, you know what I mean.

720
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was just like once you got there, you

721
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: was like, okay.

722
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: It was a different experience, man. It was like, and

723
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: this is how I met Ja, Like my first day

724
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 4: up there. Jade the youngest nigga there.

725
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: Right, I'm his.

726
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 4: Little country nigga for Kansas City. I'm coming in and

727
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: Damon immediately says Jay I need you to.

728
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: Take care of him. Yeah.

729
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: So from then, you know, we fire heat from the

730
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: bab I'm like, nigga, everybody be at my house, all

731
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: the niggas. I'm like, oh, man, that's the homie, that's

732
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: the homie, that's my cousin.

733
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

734
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: So it's like we instantly became and then I also

735
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: knew the group that's his actual cousins, so we just

736
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: had an immediate bond.

737
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so it just kind of it kind of

738
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: went from there.

739
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: Is that when I met him or was that after

740
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: now you met you met him around the same time

741
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 2: to the same time, Yeah, right, the same time.

742
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's what man. That that building was amazing.

743
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: It was amazing.

744
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Listen.

745
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 4: I remember going there because I was making money but

746
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 4: I hadn't had any major hits yet, right, And I

747
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 4: was just in there talking to Tony one day, Tony Dixon, man,

748
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: and I was just looking at his plaques and looking

749
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 4: at everybody stuff, and I was like, bro, I just

750
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 4: want a plack.

751
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: I just need one.

752
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, if I get one, I know

753
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 4: how to make it.

754
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

755
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 4: I'm a multiplied I know how to do it, and

756
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 4: Tony looked at me and started laughing. He was like,

757
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 4: be more concerned with the business. Your plaques are gonna come.

758
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: Take care of your business.

759
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: And that stuck with me.

760
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 4: Wow, like all this them plaques, Nigga. You can have

761
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: a plaquea and no money. You can have a lot

762
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: of plaquesa no money, a.

763
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: Lot of plaques and no money.

764
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 4: But if you take care of your business, you will

765
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: survive longer than anybody. And that's that's really been my model.

766
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 4: I ain't never even told Tony that, Like, that's been

767
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 4: my whole model.

768
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, you have to watch your business man.

769
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: I tell people every day I'm not in the music,

770
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: and that's what got him kicked out watching this business.

771
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: Watch.

772
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 4: So yeah, let's let's let's let's let's move along to.

773
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 2: Because when you've got there, because here there are to

774
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: be money podcasts.

775
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 5: We like to give.

776
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

777
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely so helped me.

778
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: So help God God, because I can, I can, I

779
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: can attest for this. You showed up with Sorry two

780
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: thousand and four.

781
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, fully done.

782
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: I remember this because I was like, that record is crazy,

783
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: this little because that Nigga had that record. And that's

784
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 2: what Damon was like, Nigga, you gotta hear this record.

785
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: He got Nigga pushed player. I said, man, what the fuck?

786
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: Who wrote that? Eric Dawkins, Tony Dixon, He had the

787
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: whole the whole crew. Yeah, the whole crew. I had.

788
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: The beat was made. Had the beat made? Yeah, so

789
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: not that I'm sorry, Yeah, the beat of it was.

790
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: And then the guys got to it and did that

791
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 2: ship to it because you noticed that didn't sound like

792
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: an underdog record. It's a little bit, a little bit different.

793
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: It became it was a shift. It was a shift.

794
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: It became the sonic though, it became part of the sonic,

795
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, wherever you brought to it,

796
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: it was now, okay, we're gonna move forward with this,

797
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 3: just saying with.

798
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: Just saying, but that's also that's also smart business for.

799
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: The team itself, for the underdogs themselves and ourselves to

800
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: being able to adjust and you know too, where music

801
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: was going. And it took yeah, and it took an

802
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 2: eighteen nineteen year old to come in there who really

803
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: didn't know. Yeah, you didn't know.

804
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 4: You gotta be got some music making beats in the hood.

805
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, but it and damon being

806
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: able to identify sonically day man, Harvey, Damon identifying you,

807
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Harvey identifying the sonic of it, and like you said,

808
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 2: that turning into a shift into how the building sounded

809
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: after that, because it definitely was. It definitely was a shift.

810
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: There was a shift that happened. It's crazy, said, it's crazy.

811
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Give us that process, give us that process.

812
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: You come in there, you got this track, and now

813
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: these songwriters that you've heard their songs, you heard, you know,

814
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: things that they've been doing. These producers, they hear this song,

815
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: and now everybody wants to help you finish this.

816
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 4: This was the most amazing experience I had ever had

817
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 4: because you're just not used to seeing people work together,

818
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 4: like bounce off each other, you know what I mean.

819
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: You got Eric Dawkins and you're from the church too,

820
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: so yeah, this need to know some monster in the building.

821
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: I was like, monster, bro, you you write R and

822
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: B two. I didn't know.

823
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 4: I knew who he was, but I didn't know the

824
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 4: position he played. And seeing everybody and what was cool? Right,

825
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: everybody in there were basically hybrids could write songs and

826
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 4: make beats everybody. Everybody had their niggas could really finish

827
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 4: the songs by themselves.

828
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: But it was this thing.

829
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: You walked past somebody's room and you heard that, and

830
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, the group was just everybody migrate,

831
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 4: migrate to.

832
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: The room like this one. This one was yeah, yeah,

833
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: pull up some bells.

834
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 7: Yeah.

835
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: Like it was like the craziest collaboration was.

836
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 4: It was so cool, bro it was the coolest thing

837
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 4: I had ever seen because you're just not used to

838
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 4: seeing people collaborate like that. And everybody had they had

839
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: their positions, you know what I mean. So I was

840
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 4: just like, brodymon gave me, gave me a room. I'm like,

841
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: oh my underg it's all. And then just to see

842
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 4: the star power that was going through there.

843
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had that first room.

844
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: So a lot of them will hear something, just peep

845
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: in and I'm like, oh, ship, that's Tony, b.

846
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, that's Jojo Oh. Tanky's up here every day,

847
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: like and we're playing Halo.

848
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely Halo that she used to make my head hurt.

849
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, you niggas, yeah, no.

850
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: It's crazy. And I just seen Tyree in the parking lot, right,

851
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: it was. It was nuts.

852
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 4: Every artist you could think of, everybody you.

853
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: Can think of, so man, that time it was crazy.

854
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: But the experience I tell anybody, the underdog situation really

855
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 4: taught me how to make songs.

856
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: I went a beat maker. By the time I was done,

857
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: I was a full producer and a songwriter. Speaking of

858
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: your time, time wasn't very long. It wasn't what happened, Jay.

859
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: It was so.

860
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: Back to the business.

861
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,879
Speaker 4: Sorry, two thousand and four had came out, and at

862
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 4: that time, what it was only the second American idol.

863
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 4: Ruby was the same. So it was the biggest thing

864
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: in life, biggest thing in life. And after they seen

865
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: my percentage on the record, every publisher in the world

866
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 4: was on my phone. And I had a brother that

867
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 4: I could.

868
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: Talk to him right there.

869
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 4: It was him who was was it Chuck?

870
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: He was in a position, Chuck Chuck.

871
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 4: So I had all these people to bounce off of,

872
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 4: like I mean, because I wasn't signed to the Underdogs,

873
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I was actually signed to

874
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: JD but they never gave me advance or anything like that.

875
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 4: So that had a time period which I didn't care

876
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 4: because I was able to do what I needed to

877
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 4: do just off the name, like and some people need

878
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,919
Speaker 4: to realize that too. Sometimes it ain't about the money,

879
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 4: It's about the position you put in to make money,

880
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 4: you know. So everybody's calling, I'm talking to Jay. I'm like, bro,

881
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: they trying to get me such and such and this

882
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 4: and that, And then just so happened. Probably the next day.

883
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 4: Eric Dawkers is in a room and he just had

884
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 4: a check, like just laying on the table, and this

885
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 4: was the biggest check I had ever seen in my

886
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 4: entire life.

887
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, bro, what is that check from?

888
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 4: He was like, oh, Christina Aguilera, I you can make

889
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 4: that type of money off music. He's like, yeah, man,

890
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: just just stay focused and.

891
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 5: Keep on going.

892
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: But nigga, you got records and you've done some great things.

893
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: And this is the R and B Money Podcast, and

894
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: yes there's money in that, and yes we've we've established

895
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: that you've done well for yourself. But let's tell these

896
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: people about these records and these stories behind these records.

897
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: Let's go.

898
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: Let's get we talked about sorry two thousand and four,

899
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: let's get into Uh, I'm a flirt, Okay, I'm a

900
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: flirt because there's some you know, I'm a flirt was

901
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: on multiple artists.

902
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: It was how the fuck did you get multiple checks?

903
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Let's talk about all right.

904
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 4: So, like I explained, Bow Wow was my ace right,

905
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 4: still still my brother at the time, Like I said,

906
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 4: We're making beats, were making songs, were finishing his album,

907
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 4: and I ended up getting a relationship with R.

908
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: Kelly, Like got those calls you know what I mean.

909
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: Well, my managers at the times the best friends with him,

910
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: Rocky Bivins, Latasha Scott's husband, and he was great friends

911
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: with him.

912
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 4: Hooked us up and Rob fell in love on my

913
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 4: production and he was like, let's let's go right. The

914
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: first track I sent him was I'm a Flirt.

915
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: So I asked Bow. I was like, Yo, you want

916
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: to do a song with R. Kelly. He's like hell yeah, right.

917
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: So I send the track to Rob.

918
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: He literally hits me back in like three hours and

919
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 4: he was like, it's a boy, said nigga, Nigga, what

920
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,959
Speaker 4: what are you talking about?

921
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: It's a boy? Nigga. I called Hit Records my children,

922
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: and it's a boy. He said, I'm gonna have able

923
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: send it to you right now, Nigga, I play that song,

924
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: I fall out on the floor.

925
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: So when he sends it, is does he send a

926
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: full song or does he just send the hook back?

927
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: He said, he sends the hook.

928
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 4: And he says, give him another couple of hours.

929
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: Uh he no, he asked. He said, do you want

930
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: me to put a verse on it?

931
00:50:59,080 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 5: Hell?

932
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want you to put a verse on it.

933
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 4: He's like, all right, give me a couple of hours.

934
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Nigga I called Bao. I was like, Bro, he did it.

935
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: He's like, Nigga, you line.

936
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 4: I was like, nah, bro, he did it. I was like,

937
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 4: I'm headed over to the house. I'm about to play

938
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: it for you.

939
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: Nigga playing for bow.

940
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 4: This Nigga like, Nigga, is it this a motherfucker single?

941
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 4: And he's he's proud because now this is a moment

942
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 4: that JD didn't do the beat. JD didn't write the song,

943
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 4: like he's bringing a hit record to the table. So

944
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 4: Bao drop his Uh, I'm gonna get into details, Bao

945
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: drop his verse.

946
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: We sent it back for Rob for approval. Bow Wow

947
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: says a line that Rob said.

948
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 4: On his part right and that nigga Rob called me

949
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: and said, hey, man, tell that nigga write his own shit.

950
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: That's my goddamn line. Tell him he write it. Ship.

951
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 4: Hey, niggas reference me, Hey, yeah, yeah, go ahead and

952
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 4: rewrite that part.

953
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: So rewrite it. Rob like cool, It's like it's a smash.

954
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 4: It's like congratulations, young niggas like y'all, y'all got what

955
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 4: We take it back to.

956
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: Jd uh KP and they just kind of like like

957
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of it's cool.

958
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 4: It's cool, right, So I'll go into his superstar mode

959
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: called Mom's managers like these niggas hating this is the

960
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 4: fucking single.

961
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 1: This is what I want my single to be.

962
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 4: Boom boom boom boom and the powers to be was

963
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: just like no, said no, and end up putting the

964
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 4: song on a hidden bonus track on a Walmart version

965
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 4: because you know you used to have version. We know,

966
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 4: we know I got I got a hidden bonus on

967
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: my way.

968
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: Hitting bonus track was the target version or our best.

969
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: You know, I don't like my verse, niggas, Do you

970
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: like that bro's you know these niggas right, niggas, partition

971
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: is up right now man, Walmart version, Walmart version, So

972
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 2: let let the manager sing on your record, and it's

973
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: the treat grateful you let her retired niggas sing on

974
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 2: your song. I should have called him and said, niggas

975
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: a boy. So it's on a hidden bonus track on

976
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: the Walmart verse.

977
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 4: Put an R Kelly record on a hitting R Kelly's height.

978
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: That wasn't the worst part about it.

979
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: After you put this man he has a side protection one.

980
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: You can't even do that.

981
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: The nigga hit me like, first of all, they didn't

982
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 2: put the shit out as a single because at that

983
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 2: time I didn't know, you know how it goes.

984
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: He was about to have a single out, so Rob

985
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: fuck with me so much. He was like, Hey, I'm

986
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: gonna get them to push that out.

987
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 4: Just make sure it's a single because my single is

988
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 4: about to come out, and after that comes out, ain't

989
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 4: gonna be no more features, you know what I'm saying

990
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 4: for that time period, so records are not compete with records.

991
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: So I was like, cool, So the powers would be

992
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 4: do they thing put it on a Hitten bonus track.

993
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 4: I love saying that hitting bonus track Walmart version and

994
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 4: that nigga Rob loses it, And he only didn't lose

995
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: it because they did that they didn't send a man

996
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: his money, they didn't pay R Kelly.

997
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: He was like, man, I ain't got my money. These

998
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: is disrespectful. I'm gonna show him what it is.

999
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: And that nigga took baw Wow off called tea pain Uh.

1000
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Ended up being collateral damage in a sense.

1001
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah it wasn't It wasn't his, but but the fucked

1002
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: up part was like, they try to put that shit

1003
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: on me like I did something like I went and

1004
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 4: sold the record twice to R Kelly And it was

1005
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 4: like for a while, man, like they had put a

1006
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 4: big dent in me and balace relationship because you got

1007
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: somebody that he's been with his whole career put him on.

1008
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, I'm the new nigga. Like

1009
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: we best friends. But as somebody telling you something.

1010
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: So how was he able to record the record and

1011
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: put it out? This is the remix?

1012
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 6: Ah?

1013
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 4: Not only that it worked out that R c A

1014
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 4: and Sony is the same, it was the job and

1015
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 4: Sony they're all up the Umberella. So nigga, this is

1016
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 4: an internal call of and he is R Kelly is

1017
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 4: who he is?

1018
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: Our bow wow? What do you mean? And it's just

1019
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: a hidden record on there. Anyway, y'all didn't use it.

1020
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: This is the remix now.

1021
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: Hm, and it's my single and he wrote the record

1022
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: anyway now because it was a new master, I did

1023
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 2: get paid again because it was two separate masters, Yeah,

1024
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: I did. And that one was a lot different, a

1025
00:56:44,400 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: lot different. When we has no drama behind it. There's

1026
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: no drama behind when we is it now outside of

1027
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 2: them telling us that is it gonna work?

1028
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's some drama.

1029
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: No, that's big drama because now you're fighting, you arguing,

1030
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: you are out on the limb, basically alienating yourself and

1031
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: going against the grain.

1032
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's drama because if it don't work, yeah,

1033
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: so you're going with it.

1034
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 8: Just look at that nigga like princey. Shit, this is

1035
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 8: the this is the remix.

1036
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 4: Oh now, oh Yo Shan's ship, the drama.

1037
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 6: Comes mm hmmm.

1038
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: Oh Roddies.

1039
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 7: Tarfire m hm tarfire mm hmm oh you're to fire,

1040
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 7: oh tarfa.

1041
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: Horribies.

1042
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 9: Singers are and be songs, little roddies, Tapa.

1043
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 6: F ho ly singer who.

1044
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: Hardly So.

1045
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 6: I know you have some. I know you have one.

1046
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 6: I know you've heard a lot of songs that you like,

1047
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 6: just a lot of songs that you know. I heard

1048
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 6: a lot of songs that you've seen, heard a lot

1049
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 6: of songs that you wrote.

1050
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: Top five, Mmm, your top fog. You think that nigga

1051
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: tink better than me?

1052
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 4: You think that nigga could sing top even better than me?

1053
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: For Ronnie? Your top five R and B singers, so hard?

1054
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: Bro Yah? R Kelly number one? Start then start, started off?

1055
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: Then number one kick it off. I'm a case and

1056
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: Jojo You're gonna make them number two together? Joe Yeah,

1057
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: just a whole brother, Yeah, Marvin Gaye. Then that's a

1058
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: flip between Stevie Wonder.

1059
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 4: Okay, I like what you're doing, brother, and then who

1060
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 4: else fits in that?

1061
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm a babyface nigga too though?

1062
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 4: Come on, come on, that's that's my top five.

1063
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: That's exciting. Okay? Your top five.

1064
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 4: R and B songs that ain't right? I can't you

1065
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 4: better do it? I mean, I must say the songs

1066
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 4: of my top five?

1067
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: Why not? You know what I'm saying? Why not? And

1068
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: R Kelly is hard? It's too many? You know what

1069
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: I believe? I can fly? I love Let's get it on. Yeah. Well,

1070
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't you.

1071
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 4: Well, I won't talk about that real fast because I'm

1072
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 4: trying to still confused on how they lost that lawsuit. Yeah,

1073
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 4: that's I really want to talk about that because it's

1074
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 4: R and B right, Yeah, come on, How in the

1075
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 4: hell did they lose a lawsuit that? The Ed Sheering

1076
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: song was not like, let's get it on. Soon as

1077
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 4: I heard it, I was like, oh, Marma, gay got

1078
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 4: another one.

1079
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. You know what's crazy?

1080
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask the musicologists over Atlantic. Yeah, because he's

1081
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 3: Borderlina genius. Yeah, he's he's he catches everything right, Yeah,

1082
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 3: take you just you know you your two notes and

1083
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 3: and right there at the end of the fourth stands

1084
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 3: of that syncopation. You're You're on it, man, Like I

1085
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: just changed it like four times. Yeah, you gotta.

1086
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: He's on it. So I'm gonna ask him to get

1087
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 1: past him.

1088
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: How did's even possible? I'm asking forever, my lady, why not?

1089
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 6: I just call.

1090
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: I love you that babyface? Which one do you pick?

1091
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: That's hard because it's just like, I don't know if

1092
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: I want to pick one he wrote or one song

1093
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: because I wanted to say the Boys to Men's.

1094
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 4: Song but not gonna lose either way.

1095
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 2: No, but you can say you kind of took the

1096
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: easy way out and just let you know that you're

1097
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: my brother'na keep it funky with you took the easy

1098
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: way out by taking songs from the same singers that

1099
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 2: you said. It was top five singers, but he took

1100
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: the it's your five, so whatever.

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Speaker 4: Hard for somebody to be your favorite singer and they

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01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 4: don't have your favorite song.

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Speaker 1: I don't agree.

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01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't agree because I don't know if all my

1105
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: favorite singers got all my favorite songs.

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Speaker 4: I agree and disagree. Fair fair, Yeah, but I get it.

1107
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 4: I know what you're doing, though I know you.

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01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: Give it your nigga.

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01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 2: I was like something about this keyboard. It's been transposed

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01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: this whole time. I was like, something, ain't right.

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01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: I got read out the pitch, so so you was

1112
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 3: cheating and no, y'all have me singing higher than normal.

1113
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 3: I was like, well, I can normally hit this, let's go.

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: I didn't do it.

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01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 4: I thought of reset every time, you know, set me up. Yeah,

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01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,959
Speaker 4: he wrote it, but boyster Man end of the row.

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01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: Perfect song singing out of the Talent Show once, although

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01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: we've come I sang it at at my ex girl,

1119
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: well she was my girlfriend at the time, at her

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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: high school with some guys that were in the group there.

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01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: That was probably the wrong song to sing to your girlfriend, because.

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01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: No, I didn't sing it to her.

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01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: I sang it at her school, but still in the

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01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: group that was there was a dope group, you know

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01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And they signed. They sang first on

1126
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: the Talent Show high school Talent Show because my cousin

1127
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 2: was a teacher there, and then they were singing that

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01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 2: and that was from I was from another high school.

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01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, get up here, because a

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01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: lot of people from my church went to that school.

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01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: It's like, like, do girl, get up here and sing

1132
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 2: and sing with this end of the Road.

1133
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: So I got up on.

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01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 3: Stage and sang with them on the End of the Road.

1135
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 3: And I remember that song so vividly in that moment,

1136
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 3: so vividly because she was actually cheating on me with

1137
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 3: one of the guys in the group.

1138
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 4: So it was you spoken into existence. It actually was

1139
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 4: the end of the road.

1140
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't just yet because I didn't find out ti later,

1141
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 2: but then I was like, that's that's my fond memory

1142
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: of the end of the road. We was hung together

1143
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 2: and I know that. No, that's how you felt though.

1144
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: She played with my heart and she was knocking down.

1145
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: The niggas who sang it? Why do you play with

1146
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: my mind? Why do you.

1147
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm mm hmm.

1148
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: It hurt to find that out.

1149
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: That's crazy because I'm sure she's probably asked for tickets. No,

1150
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: m hm, she took her air. I listen, I respect

1151
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: the ones that take their air.

1152
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: Don't come back. I respect them ones tough. Yeah, don't

1153
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: come back. It's still sting a little bit.

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01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 6: I think.

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01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: I think so.

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 2: I just think this some thirty years ago, some residual

1157
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: trauma ship. You know, you be locked in. You're like,

1158
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: I ain't do nothing.

1159
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: Y'all need to do call in. She need to call

1160
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: and apologize. I kept it. Holy look where he got

1161
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: you report it to my music? All right, here we go.

1162
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: You lived the black slack my brother.

1163
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: I have and I honestly believe in phil is just

1164
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 4: the beginning, because it is mm hmmm.

1165
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: Church.

1166
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no. Next ain't saying I ain't saying

1167
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 1: no names, say no name? Who is what you did?

1168
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: You don't say s I ain't saying no names.

1169
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 2: Man, we've come to that time, all right. You gotta

1170
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: tell us a story funny, fucked up, are funny and

1171
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: fucked up?

1172
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: You hear me.

1173
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: The only rule to this game, m you can't say

1174
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 2: no names. I won't tell you a funny story, and

1175
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: I'll just say his name.

1176
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: Say any names. I ain't saying no noames. What you

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: know who it is? That's fine.

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 4: Interesting funny story is when I got hold on, hold on,

1179
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 4: hold on, hold on. This is little Rindy got kicked

1180
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 4: out of the Underdog building. I left with him to

1181
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 4: flirt himself, to flirt himself, messing.

1182
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: With the same girl.

1183
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 4: Please excuse his hands.

1184
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: Excuse his hands, man, I ain't saying no names. I

1185
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: ain't saying no names. So I get a call from

1186
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 1: a good friend.

1187
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 4: And he tells me that these he's in a certain

1188
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 4: place and he's playing these this record that had just

1189
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 4: came out, and people are dancing around the studio saying

1190
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 4: how amazing this record is, and he ends up telling

1191
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 4: them that I.

1192
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: Did the record and it was just crickets in the

1193
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: room after they were just dancing.

1194
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 4: Saying how amazing the record was and saying how incredible

1195
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 4: the artist was, and how they always.

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01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 1: Wanted to work with them, and my little name came

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01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: back up. My God, I put you in my session.

1198
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: That's a story. Cool and I closed my chapter there.

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01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: The cool that was you'll get back man. He didn't

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: say no names. I didn't say no names.

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: Ship well, my brother love Ronnie. What else can we say? Man,

1202
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: You're family? So hey, man, you know this is this

1203
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: is light work. This is easy, man, But we are

1204
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 3: proud of you.

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01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all because you know, y'all just don't move

1206
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 4: for anybody, and y'all just don't go anywhere.

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01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: So I appreciate y'all coming to the at L man

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01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 1: like this is. This is beautiful.

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01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 4: I appreciate y'all work. I'm proud of y'all. Y'all really

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01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:32,959
Speaker 4: doing something for the R and B community.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: I don't I know anybody else that can do what

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01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: y'all doing.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate that.

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01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,599
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