1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: on your Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation radiocom. 3 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: In the Drive, I'm Dale Lolly getting with Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful day here in uh sunny western Pennsylvania 5 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: like summer. Yeah, the Steelers are off today. Um. Yeah, 6 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: they had their second week of O T A. S 7 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: are now in the book, so essentially they're halfway through 8 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: their period, the O t A slash Mini a period um, 9 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: so halfway through their organized offseason. Yeah. Um, and I 10 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: think I think a lot of people overrate this period 11 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: or underrate this period. You know, like they're getting stuff 12 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: done down there. It's not camp, but they're putting in 13 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 1: some hours installing, yeah, right, installation, a lot of getting 14 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: the young guys up to speed. I know people were upset, hey, 15 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: why aren't a lot of these veterans here. The first week, 16 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: well they were kind of told to, you know, you 17 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: don't need to be the reps anyway, you're stealing away 18 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: reps from young guys. The first week was more about 19 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: getting the young guys acclimated. This week, too, has been 20 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: about okay, let's let's start taking some strides here. With 21 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: everybody else down, I think you'll start to see more 22 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: guys back in the building. It wouldn't surprise me to 23 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: see participation next week, participation at minicamp. And you would 24 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: hope that the guys that are young, that have getting 25 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot of reps now at least have the basics 26 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: down and they understand things that we don't talk about enough. 27 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, speed and tempo, the NFL practice, and you 28 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: know how we do things around here and where the 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: lunch room is just goofy things, stay a line up 30 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: and who's who goes first, who goes second, and then 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: kind of stuff the pecking order. We would be remiss though, 32 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: if we didn't talk about something that happened yesterday. M 33 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: Our good friend Tounch jokin Um has retired from the booth. 34 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: Uh Tonch was there yesterday and uh really Um. At 35 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: one point I was watching practice and he was down 36 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 1: at the other end of the balcony down by by 37 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Art Rooney's office. He was down there with Art and 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: his wife and and and Wolfe was there. Um. And 39 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: so they were talking and I'm like, oh, you know, 40 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: this is his time. He's enjoying what might be I 41 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: don't know his his last time. I'm sure the door 42 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: is always open for him. He's got other things going 43 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: on in his um. He's not gonna, you know, he's 44 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: not gonna come down here. And the next thing you know, 45 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: there's Tonch right behind me, and he, you know, he 46 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: I hate, and I put my hand out and shook 47 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: his hand, gave him a hug, and I I thought 48 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: foolish about it. I said, congratulations, really appreciated everything, and 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: this is what you say to somebody when they're retiring. 50 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: And then as he walked away, I'm like, I just 51 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: congratulated a guy who kind of had a he had 52 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: to retire because of the A L S that he's 53 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: dealing with. No, but he has a career that deserves congratulations. 54 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: That's as I think, you know what he should be congratulate. 55 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: He spent thirty seven years in the NFL as as 56 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: a player in broadcaster. I can't imagine him wanting to 57 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: have done much else, right, I think he's probably very 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: happy with his job, right anytime we wanted to do 59 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: for a lot of years, and it just uh, you know, 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: it brought you know, seeing him like that on that 61 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: final day. I mean, I'm sure, it's an emotional setting, 62 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: but it was really emotional, Yeah, just to see him 63 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: there and watch him looking over the field and and 64 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, he he hadn't been in a you know, 65 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: none of us had really been all together like that 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: in over a year. So there's even some new report 67 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: he's in there that he really didn't know. And he's 68 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: walking over and shaking hands with everybody and had a 69 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: moment with even the guys he didn't know very But 70 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: that's who he is. That's who he is. And say, 71 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: I've worked with so many people in steel the nation, 72 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: and he's it's probably ten people I've worked with more, 73 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: especially I mean you obviously, and he and I always 74 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: got along. I still do, obviously, extremely extremely well. I 75 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: was always very impressed with his state of the positive 76 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: way he looked at the game, at himself, you know, 77 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: obviously it was very strong, very strong faith that that 78 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: you see that right away and uses it for good 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: and him and wolf do and all the charity stuff 80 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: they do, and it's like, wow, I kind of wish 81 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: I was like that team when I grow up, right 82 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: right right, when I grow up, I'd like to be 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: like a punch. Yeah, it really is, Uh, you know, 84 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: kind of the passing of another era. I mean I 85 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: was there for the for the end of you know, 86 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: Jack Fleming's last year. It was my first year on 87 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: the Beat. Uh. And then Billy Hillgrove took over the 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: next year. Um. You know, then they brought in Touch 89 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: to work with with Bill and Myron, and I was 90 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: there for the end of Myron's you know, the last 91 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: six or seven years of Myron um, you know, and 92 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: now with with Billy, with with with Touch moving on. 93 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like, yeah, we've seen a 94 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: change in the guard here, and it's almost like it's 95 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: a little bit like the you know, the head coaching 96 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: twenty three years. I mean, you know, Billy has been 97 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: longer than that. Cope was long you know, if Cope 98 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: and Fleming were together for you know, almost since I 99 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: was a baby. You know, things don't change much around you, 100 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: which is my favorite things about the town and organization. 101 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: And you know, I was born in nineteen seventy three 102 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: and by the time I was six seven, eight years old, 103 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: I was very into the Steelers and very into football. 104 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: So I remember Tounch's entire career. I mean, not that 105 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: I was a scout, at that point or whatever. But 106 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: I remember him being a fixture offensive lineman. You know, 107 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: it was the post obviously Supersteeler days, but they were 108 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: still you know, the biggest thing in town by a thousand, 109 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: you know. And then seamless transition to the media side 110 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: of things. And one of the things that um, you know, 111 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: he and Wolf do a lot of They would go 112 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: in and watch film the upcoming opponents, so they knew 113 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: what they were talking about. Yeah, they were watching the 114 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: light when they knew exactly you know, they could they 115 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: could talk techniques and stuff and touch really um, you know, 116 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: a lot of teams will bring him in to work 117 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 1: with their line, you know, on the punch and you 118 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: know how hey, it's all about It wasn't a big 119 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: offensive tackle, no, no, I mean even in when he 120 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: was twenty eight years old in his prime playing days, 121 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: he was small for his size light so it was 122 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: all about technique and so you know, he teams would 123 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: bring him in his you know to teach technique and 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: proper technique and and and he would talk to a 125 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: lot of the Steelers offensive lineman about that and they 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: appreciated that. And it went beyond just talking about play 127 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: on the field. He would help guys out off the field. 128 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: Um yeah, and I've noticed this or right, So we 129 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: were talking yesterday. I was talking with the Steelers PR 130 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: department about about it. You know, we're down on the 131 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: sideline watching practice yesterday and it's what, you know, wish 132 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: the castro was here or one of the old guy, 133 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: one of the older offensive lineman so they could talk 134 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: about Tounch. And I'm like, well, b J Finney's here, 135 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: and and you know he said, yeah, Um, you know, 136 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I guarantee you Tounch and b J were 137 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: close because b J was one of those guys who 138 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: you know, came in undrafted, was on the practice squad 139 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: and it's kind of a self made man. I know. 140 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: Bj is a Wolf guy too. Yeah, and you know 141 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: that was people forget touches. Rookie year he got cut. 142 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: Here was home and they called him back and and 143 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: and he was just seven. He was a fem was 144 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: a six. I'm sorry. Wolf was the fifth round pick. 145 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Wolf was drafted first, and then Touching the next round. Uh. 146 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: Wolf made the team coming out of camp that year 147 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: and Touch did not. And so Touch went home and 148 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: was I guess getting ready to get on with his 149 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: life's work, and the Steelers called him back, um, and 150 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: he turned that into a long career. So he always 151 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: has a soft spot in his heart for those guys 152 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: that you know kind of guys. Yeah, yeah, and steel 153 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: has had a lot of them over the last couple 154 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: of years. Ye, mun Check's millionaires, as Wolf Legs would 155 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: call him. And um, I know Wolf was always tight 156 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: with Ramon as well. And I mean that's a pretty 157 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: clear in general, just kind of cut to the chase. 158 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: Those guys like to hang with each other. And it 159 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: is such a technique driven position. Yeah, it's great to 160 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: be big and powerful and just mow people down, but 161 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: the NFL, you don't mow people down very often. You know. 162 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: It's technique. It's when you when you when you marriage 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: the technique in the physical traits, then you get the 164 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: dominant lineman. But you can get by. Usually you don't 165 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: find those very you don't find those guys. Those guys 166 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: are the first round draft picks. Everybody can pick those guys, 167 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: and those guys that that you know, make themselves into something. 168 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: And and Tounch was always, you know, love to be 169 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: a part of that. So I did want to play 170 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: back what b J Finney had to say. We talked 171 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: to him, and b J get a little emotional yesterday 172 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: talking about Tounchkin in his retirement. Um, let's go. B 173 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: is an interesting perspective because not only was he here 174 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: at that era, but then he left and now he's 175 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: not the new guy, but he's the new guy. Yeah. 176 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean so he's seen a couple of line coaches 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: and and been around the league too, left and came back. Yeah. 178 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: So here's what b J had to say about tounch 179 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of other things as well. Hellow, yeah, 180 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: we can hear you. All right, Thank you everybody. We 181 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: have b J Finney for you today. Please raise your 182 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: hand if you have a question, and I will get 183 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: to as many as I can. Let's start with Dale 184 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: Lolly d k Hey, b J. I just wanted to 185 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: uh ask you what the last past year has been 186 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,479 Speaker 1: like for you. You leave the Steelers, you get traded, um, 187 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: you come back. Is it kind of like I've been 188 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: a whirlwind for you to to a certain degree. I'm 189 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: on muted, right, Okay, they'll check that one. Um. Yeah, 190 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: I think you summed it up nicely with one word. 191 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: Is absolutely a whirlwind. Um, when you think about it, 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: my family and I did one great big circle lap 193 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: of the United States, going from pitt to home in 194 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: Kansas and then not to Seattle and being traded to 195 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,599 Speaker 1: sin See and are back here in Pitt. Um. And 196 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: I don't suggest moving four times, especially across country with 197 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: a little one. That's not fun. But uh, you know, 198 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: last year wasn't ideal. But we're happy to be here 199 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: with some familiarity and people that we know and love 200 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: and ready to get back to business. Rudder trim Je 201 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: rudder trim, Yeah, Yeah, I'm here, b J. What Um 202 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: you know now that they've been stalled a new kind 203 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: of blocking scheme, what's the differences you're seeing what their 204 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: coinings to now versus two years ago. Um, you know 205 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: we've got some different things odds and ends that we're doing. Um, 206 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: that is going to set up some run game obviously. 207 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: That's one of our main focuses. That is our main 208 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: focus UH this year is to be able to run 209 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: the ball better and open up the offense more. UH. 210 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: Coach Canada and Coach Clym and Coach more Goan are 211 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: doing a great job and making sure that we get 212 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: looks that we want that are favorable for us to 213 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: run the ball. UM. So you'll see those things as 214 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: we progress and they start to take hold. Um just 215 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, doing business as usual, blocking scheme, everything's you know, 216 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: everybody runs the same things. They just call different things. 217 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: Richie Walsh KT k ritchie and hear us. Yeah, I 218 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: can hear you. Can you hear me? Yes? Yeah? Can 219 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: you hear me? B J got you, Yep, we can 220 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 1: hear you. Okay, let's uh, welcome back to you a d. D. 221 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Kingerball NFL Network. Hey, d j um, welcome back. When 222 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: you left Pittsburgh, there was a line that had been 223 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: here a very long time, a lot of veteran guys 224 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: that were very entrenched. Now, other than David de Castro, 225 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: there may not really be many familiar faiths. What are 226 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: some of the advantages of having young new guys altogether? 227 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: What do you like about this group? And if you 228 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: have your druthers, what's the position you want to play? Uh, 229 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: you're right kind of leaving that room. You know, there's 230 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: a seven of us together for five years, which is 231 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: unheard of, extremely rare. UM. You know, those guys we 232 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 1: didn't even have to really say anything. We were just 233 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: always on the same page. But having these new young 234 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: guys come in, you know, there's a younger energy. Um, 235 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: and I won't to say that they're hungrier, but they're 236 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, they're starting to find their attraction in the NFL. 237 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: They're starting to figure out what it's like. Um, you know, 238 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: to me, the same thing as always. You know, wherever 239 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: I can get on the field. You know, right now 240 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: they're leaning on me as a vet at center. But 241 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: you know they say, hey, you know, we might play 242 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: a guard. We'll just kind of see where things go. Um, 243 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: you know, we're just we're gonna have fun with it 244 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: all up for Dale Ali Okay, ay, b J. I 245 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this or not, but tounchiell 246 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: Can retired today. Obviously he's been a guy that's been 247 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: around the team a long time and takes a big 248 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: interest in the offensive line play in general. Uh, what 249 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on you know, what Touches has meant 250 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: to the team in the into the organization. I don't 251 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: know if you can really put a value on it. 252 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's been thirty seven years that 253 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: he's been around this organization, either as a player or 254 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: in the booth. Um touches a titan man. I mean 255 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: he came in, worked with all of us and we 256 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: want to work. Um. He's always talking to us about 257 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: what we're doing, techniques and things that he's learned. Has 258 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: just been a great, great guy, great mentor to anybody 259 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: and everybody that's asked him for information or help. Um. 260 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: You know, I it stinks because I love seeing him 261 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: around the place. UM. Now I'm gonna have to go 262 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: visit him at his house on Mount Washington. Um. You know, 263 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: he and Wolf always together, and now you know we're 264 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: kind of wondering what that's gonna look like ourselves. Um, 265 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: but love touch. UM, wish him the best and what 266 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to fight and go through, and hope 267 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: he knows that we all have his back and will 268 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: do anything for him every step of the way. Mike, Hey, 269 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: b J. Guy who played a lot a quality ball 270 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: here at multiple positions, And you left and you were 271 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: on two teams and you didn't play an offensive snap 272 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: last year? What do you attribute that too? And are 273 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: you that guy coming back? Are you the guy who left? Well? Uh, 274 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: all right, Um, last year you know with COVID everything 275 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: kind of got shut down, and the gym's around me 276 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: got shut down. We couldn't really go anywhere. I was 277 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: in communications with Seattle and um, you know, they couldn't 278 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: get me out there to get my physical um. As 279 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: you guys see with John James, you know, you get 280 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: hurt away from the training facility, they avoid your contract um. 281 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: And so yeah, it was the one time that I 282 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: had finally seen some money and I wasn't gonna risk 283 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: losing all of that money and that opportunity by training 284 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: and getting hurt away from the facility. Uh So what 285 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: goes along with that? As you show up to camp 286 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: overweight and out of shape and I got beat out, 287 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: There's no way around it. I'm not seeking comfort about it. 288 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: And when in the mid season trade they needed a 289 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: pass preussure and they needed to freezing cap space and 290 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati wanted offensive lineman, so they traded me. Um got 291 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: there to Cincinnati. They got guys back that they liked, 292 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: that they were comfortable with back from injury, and they 293 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: didn't need me, so um, they just kind of put 294 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: me on the shelf. And at the end of the season, 295 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: I had a hernia, so I had to have that repaired. 296 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: And you know, the rest is history. They released me 297 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: in March and here I am prior ESPN. Yeah, beat you. 298 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: What made it the right decision for you to come 299 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh? Did you have other options that you 300 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: were looking at or was coming back here always the 301 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: destination that you wanted? Coming back here is you know, 302 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: having the familiarity with the system, with the people, with 303 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: the city. Um, that's always you know, a leg up 304 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: on other cities. Other teams. I did have a few 305 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: other teams that are interested, but they couldn't really respond 306 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: at the rate that Pittsburgh did. Pittsburgh was so fast 307 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: and getting there and saying hey, we want you back, 308 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: and other teams were like, hey, we're interested, but we 309 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: don't know what that looks like at this point in 310 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: time because of the cap situation. Uh. And so you know, 311 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: we just we took them on that we had. All Right, 312 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to get to four more. Teresa Varley Steelers 313 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: dot Com. Hey, b J, you know you talked about 314 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: what Tounch has taught you, what he's meant, What has 315 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: he taught you? What type of lessons have you learned 316 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: from him? And not just on the field, the tone 317 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: has taught you guys a lot off the field too 318 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: as well. And what has that been? Um, If anything 319 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: off of the field, it's his faith, his walk that 320 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: he's led. Um. You know he will mentor anybody and 321 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: everybody about what it means to have faith in the 322 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: line that he's had to walk, and how he shares 323 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: it so openly with guys that are willing to listen. Um. 324 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: You know that was an immense impact on me because, 325 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: as we all know, Touch hasn't had the easiest line 326 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: to walk, especially now. UM, and we kind of gravitated 327 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: to reach each other because I haven't had the you know, 328 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: the easiest walk of life either. So we're kind of 329 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: kindred spirits and and like minded souls. So UM, just 330 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: being able to hang out with somebody that knows what 331 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: that's like and has to gone through, you know, very 332 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: hard times and continue go through very hard times. Um. 333 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: You know he's a great mentor. And uh, like I said, 334 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: you can't really put it into words, you can't describe it. 335 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: Trying not to get emotional about it, but you know, 336 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: we love the mandaderly. We do a lot of discussion 337 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: externally about the getting the running game going. How much 338 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: is that the talk in your room and what can 339 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: you guys do to fix that? I mean honestly has 340 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: to talk, you know, not just in our room, but 341 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: across the whole building and across the old NFL. Everybody's like, 342 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: what is this Tethers run game gonna look like? Um, 343 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: you know, we know that we have to come out 344 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: with an edge. We have to be nasty about it. 345 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: We have to read a serve at that run game. Uh, 346 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: you get back to you know what Pittsburgh is known for. 347 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: You know those three yards at a time that dust 348 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: cloud has dr own best at, say, and the dust 349 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: settles that balls moving forward. Um, we take pride in it. 350 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: We're hungry. We know we have something to proven. We've 351 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: got a chip on our shoulders, so we want to 352 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 1: do it the last two Brian bad Cocos That yeah, 353 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: p J. Following up on the earlier question, you know 354 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: you mentioned you not being in the shape you wanted 355 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: to be in uh last season? Can can you give 356 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: us a little more detail on that? Like where you 357 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: at a playing weight you were never at before? Are 358 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: you you know where you want to be now? Like? 359 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: Would uh kind of just take us through that process 360 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: and getting right over the last twelve months. Um, I 361 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: mean yeah, overweights, overweight, so you're outa shape regardless. Um, 362 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: you know I'm getting better now yeah. Um. Now I'm 363 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: here in training the facility, my weights coming down and 364 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: feeling good, feeling like my old self and moving better. 365 00:19:54,840 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: So keep working. Okay, last question sports illustrated it. Hey, 366 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: b J. Um when you return, you guys talked obviously 367 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: when you signed, Um, did they tell you that you 368 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: know you were coming in to compete? And one of 369 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: those conversations been like since they drafted Kendrick Green. Sorry, 370 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: uh so kind of fell over here. Um, but you know, 371 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: with David Castro really being the only returning starter, everything's open. 372 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's competing for a spot. It doesn't matter where it's 373 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: out on the board. It's always up for grabs. So, uh, 374 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm coming into with a vet presence and 375 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: the experience that I have, and I'm gonna do my 376 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: best to be a starter come day one. Al Right, guys, 377 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Sorry, And that was b J. 378 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: Finney talking about well Don Jokin the offensive line coming 379 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh. What happened last year with him? With 380 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: the journey as you said, it was, you know he 381 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: did a round trip of the United States after with 382 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: the last season. I went back home to Kansas, then 383 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: went to Seattle, then was traded to Cincinnati, and now 384 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: I was back in Pittsburgh where he began last year 385 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: with a very young kid. Presumably is what he said 386 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: to which is no fun four times in a year. Yeah, 387 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: it's such an amazing world that those guys live in. 388 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: And I think some listeners forget the personal side of 389 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: it of that, you know, uprooting yourself and your family 390 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: and this young child or whoever he has. You know, 391 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: it isn't easy. And then the COVID situation and his 392 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: injury situation. I think a lot of people, you know, 393 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: just brushed Finny off before the Steelers. He had a 394 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: bad year. He's done to forget about him, think about 395 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: everything he went through for the year. I mean, by 396 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: no means though, I think he's not gonna be useful 397 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, you know, um no, I think you know, 398 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: if if you look at it, they were eleven and 399 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: two when he starts over the course of his career, 400 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: and they've had some of their better rushing days in 401 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: those games as well. There's two thirty six yard game 402 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: against the Bills that with Levan Bell. There was another game, 403 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: a couple of games against the Chiefs where he had 404 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: Bell had a hundred yard games. He had a ninety 405 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: eight yard game with with Benny Snell as the starter. Um. 406 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: You know, so they've had some success with b J. 407 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: Finney in the starting lineup without question. Um. And you 408 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: know it's a lot of young guys on that line 409 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: other than the Castro, and so you know, maybe you 410 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: give him a bit of the leg up at center. 411 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: I would think this just because just because of his 412 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: veteran writerership. I wonder how much they're changing from when 413 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: Finney was here. I remember sure stylistically they're gonna play 414 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: different with a new coordinator. I don't know how much 415 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: terminology is gonna change. Probably not a lot, which is 416 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: good for Finny. Um. I do think he should be 417 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: able to adjust quickly though. And they always we talked 418 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: about this time. They always do a good job of 419 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: finding a placeholder while a youngster presumably takes his job. 420 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: But I think Finney is perfect for that. You can 421 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: also play guard, but I think he would take just 422 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: about every snap at center, you know, going forward, unless 423 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: he earned her or until or unless he loses the 424 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: starting job, then he's probably active on game day as 425 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: your fourth interior guy. You're pretty good shape, then it's 426 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: not so bad, right, I mean, I think there's a 427 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: lot to like there. You're right. He is a physical, 428 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: come off the ball type of guy, which I think 429 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: they want more and more of. I mean, I'm expecting 430 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: more forward, explosive you know, drive blocking, whether it's zone 431 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: or man or whatever, but i mean coming off the 432 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: ball and moving people to his point. You know, he 433 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: was asked about that, you know, what are the differences now, 434 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: and he said, look, every everybody runs the same especially 435 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: in the offense. Lie, everybody runs a lot of the 436 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: same stuff. There's not a lot of different run plays 437 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: in the world design, so you may call it something different, 438 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: but nobody's reinventing the run concepts here. I mean it's 439 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: easier to come up with. I mean, if anyone at 440 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: home with scratch pad come up with a bunch of 441 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: route combinations versus runs, there's not that much more you 442 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: can do. You know, pitch left by right right, and 443 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: it depends where they line up, how you may your 444 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: adjustments and get different angles and all those type of things, 445 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: and Finney said something good there too. He said, you know, 446 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: Coach Canada is doing a really good job of creating 447 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I forget how he phrased it. Yeah, yeah, which my 448 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: media thought was already get good blocking angles then, or 449 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: get this strong safety out of the box as he's 450 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: chasing a motion player. So it's you know, I get 451 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: a better block on him, or I don't have to 452 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: account for him. That's a nazi's guy, you know. So 453 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: those type of things are interesting. I think there's a 454 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: big misconception that just because there's gonna be more motion 455 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: and um, you know things pretty snap, that this is 456 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a finesse running game. I don't think that's 457 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: the case at all. No. I think it became a 458 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: finesse run game. And I think it became a finesse 459 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: run game kind of because of Levy on Bell, because 460 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: the way ue where you just they got accustomed to 461 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: setting screen blocks as opposed to driving somebody off the ball. 462 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 1: Because when when Levy on Bell was in his prime, 463 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: was was that his peak? You didn't have to drive 464 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: somebody off the ball because he was gonna pick his 465 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: own hole anyways, right right, Definitely, it's such a unique 466 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: guy to block for would stop his feet. I mean 467 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: to do things that you're you're not supposed to do, right, 468 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: don't go look at that young running backs. And I 469 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: think that's the right way to do things. And I 470 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: also think you can't forget about that. That that line 471 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: to the pouncy villain a Wave Ramon to Castro, that 472 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: was built to protect bad You know, they were always 473 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: going to be better in protection than than the run game. 474 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: That's why it works because, yeah, you're more or less 475 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: pass blocking in the run game because he's gonna pick 476 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 1: his own hole anyways. He's gonna be patient and wait 477 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: for a crease and then go yes, whereas a lot 478 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: of younger running backs are just they just want to 479 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: get the ball and go absolutely, where's the hole. I 480 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: gotta get to the whole. Yeah, they don't set their 481 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: blocks up as well. You know, like with all respect 482 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: of Villain a Wave, but a really good career here 483 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: he's not to come off the ball and you know, 484 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: drive people back. Guy, but he was great for level 485 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: because big body getting in the waist, setting screen, setting picks, 486 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: and you know Bell would play off that really well. 487 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a quarterback. You build your 488 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 1: offensive about it round the guys and their styles of 489 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: how they like to touch the football. You know, the 490 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: touch of football high percentage and nagy is don't touch them. Now, 491 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: you build your offense around what nausea can do. A sure, 492 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: you know vice versa. You go get a running back 493 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: who does That's why they were so high on Yeah, 494 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: you know they they the option of choosing their their 495 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: franchise running back and slot boy. He fits this really well. 496 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: And you haven't mentioned a couple of times off the air. 497 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean what he could do as a receiver I 498 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: think might shock some people. Got that big because he's 499 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: bigger than Levy on Bell was. He's a big bag. 500 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: He's a big bag, especially when a factor in the 501 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: wingspan and you know how much area he can go 502 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: get snagged the football. You know, pretty impressive. Yeah, it 503 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: really is. But good stuff from bj finnem are words. 504 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: We can't thank Ton Joking enough for everything. And he did, 505 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: uh oh without question, you know over the years of 506 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: course helping build Steelers Nation Radio. I guess so you 507 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: know along with him wolf Wolf and and and uh 508 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, I was an original host on here. Jerry 509 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: doolac Um Adam Crowley. Uh you know Tim Ben's we 510 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: were there. We were the original Steelers Nation Radio crew 511 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: and uh, it's kind of built from there. Yeah, laid 512 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: the laid the bricks down for the rest of us 513 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: for a little bit. But tonch of Wolf for the 514 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: stars always will be. They've had quite a show, so 515 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure people will be missing that. So they got 516 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: tuned into us more. Yeah, absolutely please do and uh maybe, 517 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: well hopefully will it will be around, but hopefully as well. Uh, 518 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: Tons finds a way to a nasty, nasty thing and 519 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: there's no cure for it, but you can help delay it. 520 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: And so hopefully he's able to do that and and 521 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: have some quality of life. But wish him the best 522 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: of luck, and he's in our thoughts and prayers. But 523 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for this segment of the Drive 524 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. So for my partner Matt Williams, 525 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: and for Jacob Brish here on site keeping us on 526 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: the air, I'm Dale Lollly. We thank you for listening 527 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: to this edition of the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.