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I'm your host, Claude Harman. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:42.440 This week's guest someone we've been wanting to have on 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.000 the pod for a while, doctor Greg Rose. He and 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.720 Dave Phillips are the co founders of the Titleist Performance 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:52.239 Institute and they are at the forefront of golf fitness, 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:56.000 of golf development. We've had Dave on the pod numerous times, 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.760 but Gregor Rose is someone that I can't think of 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.880 anybody really other than my father. He and Dave. I've 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.120 probably learned more from these two and if you are 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.280 struggling with your golf swing. I think this is a 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.959 fantastic kind of overview of some of the things that 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.679 you can look out for and some of the things 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.040 that you want to look for in your golf swings. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:23.119 Because Greg and Dave out at TPI, they are at 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.800 the forefront of golf fitness. We talk a lot about it. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.640 This is easily one of my favorites that I've done 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.280 because I just have so much respect for Greg and 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.880 the work that he and Dave Phillips do out at TPI. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.319 So this is a good one. Greg Rose from the 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.440 titleist performance INCE two. It's a pretty special day for 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:48.400 me because I think out of everybody I've met, probably 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:49.960 in the last twenty years, I mean, I think most 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:52.640 people would think that my father probably has the biggest 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.360 influence on my career from a golf standpoint, And yeah, 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.320 I mean obviously definitely does. But I think meeting you 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.360 and Dave in two thousand and four really did change 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.760 my life from just the way I started thinking about 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:06.440 golf swings. We hear so much Gregan in twenty twenty 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:11.079 four about golf fitness. As to me, you guys are 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:14.119 at the forefront and kind of the people that kind 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.280 of talked about golf fitness for the first time for 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.399 everyone listening, What is golf fitness and why is it important? 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.480 Well, first of all, I really appreciate that Cloud. It 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:25.000 means a lot for you to say that, and I 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.520 appreciate you having me on here. Golfitness, that's great, that's 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.960 a great question. So to me, it's basically preparing your 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.200 body to play golf at the highest level or whatever 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.080 level you want to play at, and making sure that 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:40.280 your body's not the problem. That's golf fitness, right. So 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.880 you know, we always say, like, if you can't perform something, 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.840 it could be you don't know how to do it, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:49.880 you need the technical information. It could be skill isn't there, 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:51.720 or it could be your body doesn't let you do it. 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.720 Golf fitness is removing that third part, right, is trying 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.400 to make it so that you don't have any physical 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.840 limitations that are affecting your ability to perform. 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:02.919 I first started teaching, I mean, we never thought about that, Greg. 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.880 And one of the things, and I want to go 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.840 a little bit deeper into this is you guys at 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.960 the Titleist Performance Institute of TPI, you came up and 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.359 kind of coined the phrase the body swing connection. When 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.359 I started teaching golf lessons, I would look at a 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:18.480 player and I would just look at what they were 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:22.280 doing and say, okay, let's have them. Okay, this is 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.960 the problem and what they're doing from a golf swing standpoint, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.600 let's go ahead and fix the golf swing part of it. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:32.160 And I think now, when I look at a player, 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:35.680 the first thing I look at is, Okay, why are 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:38.680 they doing that? Why are they making that move with 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:42.920 their body? Why doesn't why can't they Why can't they 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.119 rotate their hips? Why can't they rotate their chest? Why 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.800 can't they get into their right side of whatever it is? 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.360 My brain immediately now, after meeting you guys twenty years ago, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.840 my brain immediately now goes to, Okay, there's a reason 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.520 why this person isn't able to do this unless you said, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.480 it's just a complete concept problem. And so when I'm 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.920 teaching now, I put myself and I try and put 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.840 the student into two buckets, and I asked them, I said, okay, 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.840 do you know what you're trying to do and how 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.640 you were trying to do this? From a technical standpoint, 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.920 meaning do you know how to swing? The club out 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.880 to the right. If you're massively coming over the top 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.640 of it, that's a concept problem. But a lot of 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:29.400 times we'll have players greg where they understand the concept 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.880 and they don't ever make any changes, and they don't 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:34.640 get any better. And that's where I think the connection 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.880 between to what a player's body can and can't do 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.080 has a massive effect, because in the past, if somebody 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.680 was struggling to do something, as instructors, I think we'd 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.440 get really frustrated because we just say, listen, how hard 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.839 is it to do this? But when I first met 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.880 you guys, I went out and you, guys, you know this. 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.320 I can play golf left or right handed, and I 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:58.200 wanted you guys to tell me which way I should 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.760 play physically. Should I played left handed or right hand? 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.839 Which way would my body work better? And I remember 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.600 I went out to TPI in Oceanside in San Diego, 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.240 and by the way, the only person that's. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:10.920 Ever asked me that question, by the way, which is great, 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:12.040 but go ahead exactly. 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.080 So I went out there and I was hitting balls 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:16.440 right handed warming up and left handed, and I think 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:19.560 you and Dave were both like watching me warm up. 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.239 You said, okay, I think this is you were gonna 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.480 We're going to stick to you right handed. And as 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.880 soon as I started hitting golf balls left handed from 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.719 a speed standpoint and from what my body could do, 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.240 you guys went, no, no, don't even waste your time 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.960 playing golf right handed play golf. That is an extreme example, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.360 But I mean the reason I mean I had back 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.120 surgery in twenty eleven. I remember I was kind of 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.880 the poster child when you guys were doing the early 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:52.240 TPI certification courses for lack of internal hip rotation. You 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.440 guys used to get me up on the stage test 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.080 my internal hip rotation, and everybody would laugh and think 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.000 I was joking, and you would always say to the crowd, 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.880 it's not. But you also told me, listen, with what 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.880 your body can and can't do from a golf standpoint, 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.640 it's not really a question of if you're going to 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.960 have back surgery at some point. It's a question of when, 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.320 based off of the physical limitations you have. And I 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.680 remember when I was crawling around on the floor and 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:21.520 couldn't stand up in twenty eleven. I sent you my 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.680 MRI and he said, I told you it wasn't a 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:27.880 matter of if it was a matter of when. So 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.080 I think for me, the body swing connection is resonates 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:36.880 so much with me because I live it every day. 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:40.440 I have really really tight hips. I don't have a 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:43.800 lot of rotation. I have a lot of early extension 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.960 or thrust on my golf swing. And so I used 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.280 to try and fix out my dad's butch harmon. He's 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.200 telling me what to do, he's telling me how to 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.440 fix it. I can't fix any of it. And it 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.560 was a revelation when you and Dave said to me, listen, 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.760 it's you, but it's not you. Your body can't do 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:06.360 these things. It doesn't like to do these movements based 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.160 off of what you can do physically. And that changed 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.119 kind of my golfing life. And you guys said to me, listen, Okay, 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.400 you can either make these changes or if you don't 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:18.960 have the time or you're not willing to do it. 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:23.120 I remember you guys said, listen, don't practice. 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So many people 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:56.280 listening to this podcast, Greg never think of their body 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:59.839 and how it affects what they do. That concept of 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.640 the body swing connection. For you, how would you explain 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:04.959 that for everyone listening? 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.640 Yeah, to me, I mean Cloud, I think it's it's 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.240 I call it source versus cause. Right. So if somebody 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.840 walks in and says my knee hurts, right. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.520 Hey, hang on, that's another one that I'm gonna borrow. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.720 Let mean you wrote that down, I'll give you full credit. 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:25.240 Yes, versus I thought so. To me, it's like, okay, 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.520 let's say your knee hurts and you say my knee hurts. Right. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.240 If someone comes to me and says my knee hurts, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.080 I'm gonna say, that's the source of the pain. Right. 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.400 We all we can see it. Let's say it's inflame. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.160 The person could tell me it hurts. But then if 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.280 I say why, like, tell me why your knee hurts, right, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:44.679 that answer could be vastly different, right for each person, right, 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.600 because we all have reasons. It's it's almost like that's 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.760 that game of why, where like if you're a kid 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.720 and you say, uh, I'm gonna make something up. Let's say, 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:56.240 claud you say you like cake, i'd say why, you go, well, 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:58.480 because it tastes good. I go why You're like, well, 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:00.680 my mom gave it to me when I was a baby, 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.920 so I just like that. I'm like, why, Well, it 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:04.840 was the only thing that she could cook. I'm like, okay, 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:06.679 And we keep going to the point where, like, you know, 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:08.079 the reason you like cake is because if there's the 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:09.719 only thing your mom could cook. Like, now we get 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.920 to the we get to the the cause of all 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.480 of this, right, right, So it's the same thing with 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.280 your swing. Right when when you know, when your dad's 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.760 given you a lesson, I'm pretty confident he's right that 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.720 what you're doing is wrong. Right If he says, hey, 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:23.880 you're coming over the top, I pretty sure you're coming 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:24.400 over the top. 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.720 But you should always tell you everything that I did, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.800 what was swinging golf club in my father's eyes, was wrong. 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:32.840 Every day. I don't want to know. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:34.560 I don't want to tell you you're right. That's not 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.160 what anybody wants to hear. But and the other thing that. 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:38.640 He would always tell me to do is well, just 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.920 stop doing it. Hey you're coming over the top. But okay, 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:42.439 we'll just stop doing it. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.280 Walk it off, walk it up. Yeah. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:44.400 No. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.200 So like if somebody says, hey, you're over the top, 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.560 you should say to yourself why right, So if if 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.720 I look at myself, I'm over the top, I'm like, Okay, 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.640 is it because I don't know that? Well, they just 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.720 told you you know it, So it's not concept. You 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.280 know it? Right? Is it that you don't know how 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.760 to swing inside out? Or is it you can't physically 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:05.880 swing inside out? Or maybe it's your equipment won't let 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:07.559 you swing inside I mean, there's lots of reasons that 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.680 you got to go down the line so to say, 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:13.959 you know, in anything in medicine and golf swing, if 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.440 you say, hey, here's your problem, that's the start of 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.800 the journey. Right. Once you have the start of the journey, 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:21.440 at least we know the problem, but we don't know 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.880 the cause of the problem. And I think it's now 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.719 very evident that there is a body swing connection that 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.439 by literally we have an app on our TPI world 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:32.840 where we use AI like everybody else in the world's 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.800 using a on machine learning. We can do a physical 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:38.199 screen of you and now the computer can literally go 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.160 through and predict what your swing will look like. That's 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:45.080 pretty scary and it's right like ninety five percent of 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.280 the time, which is pretty scary, just never watching you swing, 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.640 just looking at your body, because you know, it's kind 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.360 of like humans are really good at compensating, right, And 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.480 it's kind of like, like you said, my hip doesn't 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.559 rotate all right, Well, I still want to play golf, 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.640 so how else can I get this done? Right? And 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.360 these compensation patterns is what we see every day on 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.280 the golf course that are creating problems right, and it 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.400 can lead to injuries and poor performance. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.840 One of the big things that I took away from 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:15.720 when I first met you guys, and all the seminars 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:18.840 that we went through, you would always say, listen, golf 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:21.680 is not a It's a physical activity, but it's not 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.920 an activity to where you're falling down on the ground, 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:29.880 getting tackled, running into things. Golf physically should not hurt 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:32.360 you as a player. You should not go to a 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:36.240 driving range, hit golf balls, play eighteen nine holes of 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.520 golf and be in physical play. You could be in 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.560 fatigue paint where you're a little bit tired, your legs 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.400 are a little bit sore from walking whatever. Maybe you 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.120 played a lot of and hit a lot of balls. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.440 Maybe you're a little bit tight, but golfers should not 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:56.439 be in physical pain when they're swinging a golf club. 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.760 Well, here's the thing. When you bendo from the waist 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:05.719 and twist right, it is a very biomechanically potentially stressful 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.600 position if you don't use the proper joints that were 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.600 designed to rotate right, Like you said, if you can 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.000 turn from your hips and turn from your thrascic spine 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.160 and raise your shoulders, those joints were designed to rotate. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:18.959 But for a lot of us, if we don't have 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.440 the hip mobility or the spine the let's say, the 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.800 thorastic spy mobility, we might try and twist from our 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.559 lower back. You do that, and as you realize it's 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.040 a really bad idea, things can go down really quick. 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.760 One of the other big light bulbs, and it's something 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.720 I think about all the time is I can't remember 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:38.240 if I don't know if I was at this seminar, 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.360 but you talked about this. Someone asks describe how the 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:45.120 body works and how it moves, and you said, that's 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.160 a pretty interesting question. I think it was great. Cook. 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.360 One of the guys on your advisory board goes, oh, 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:52.920 that's easy. The body is made up of alternating patterns 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.800 of stable and mobile joints, and you kind of went 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:59.679 through how that works. And it's something that I think 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:03.240 about every day. Can you can you tell that story 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:07.200 because it has changed everything about the way that I 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:10.760 think about the body. But it's also changed greg every way. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.640 Every way I think about how the golf club and 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:16.679 how people are swinging is. 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:19.120 Such as golf golfing, it's not even golf, it's it's 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.960 like but it's basically it's a great story. It was 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.360 Great Cook, who's one of the best physical therapists in 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.640 the country, and Mike Boyle, one of the top straight coaches. 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.320 They were having a conversation and it's what Great told 0:14:30.360 --> 0:14:32.480 Mike that day that Mike wrote an article about that 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.800 I read and ever since I read that, it affected 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:36.880 me just like it affected you, and we created we 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.240 kind of adopted it as our philosophy in it. And 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.200 basically what Grey told Mike that day was this. He 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.080 said that if you'd take any joint in your body, 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:46.160 like let's take the wrist, okay, he said that most 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.640 joints are designed to move in three planes of motion, 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:50.880 like you can flex and extend, you can hinge and 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:52.920 you can twist right like your shoulder can do the 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.160 same thing, your hip, your ankle, And he said, and 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.600 if a joint moves freely in all three planes, we 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.960 called a mobile joint, that's where you should get most 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.680 your movement from. Because but then there are other joints 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.240 in your body, like let's say the knuckle on your finger, right, 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.320 it's designed to flex and extend. Now you can move 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:09.680 it side to side and you can twist it, but 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:10.960 I really don't want you to do that, right. It 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.520 really wasn't designed to do that, like your knee or 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.560 your elbow, you Know's so there's certain joints that are 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.760 designed to move in one plane and certain joints that 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.400 moving three planes. If it's designed to move in one plane, 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:24.120 we call it a stable joint. Like your lumbar spine. 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:26.600 The fassets are like this. They're designed to flex an extent, 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.120 but they're not designed to rotate, whereas your thrastic spine. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.760 They're designed to rotate, flex, extend, move everywhere. So gray 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.040 Ma made this interesting observation. He said, you know, if 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.920 you look at the human body and you label the 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:40.080 joints as mobile or stable, like your your ankle is mobile, 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.640 your knee is stable. Your hips should be mobile. Your 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.120 lumbar spine should be stable, your thrascic spine should be mobile. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.640 Your scapul your shoulder blade should be stable. Your shoulder 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:52.000 joint is mobile, your elbow is stable, your wrist is mobile. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.080 He's like you know, if you notice, it's an alternating pattern. 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:57.400 It goes mobile stable, mobile, stable, and mobile stable. And 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:01.400 that alternating pattern is how humans were design to move. Now, 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.480 life can become a problem. Right, Let's say we sprain 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:06.880 an ankle, or we damage our hip, or let's say 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:11.680 we're born with a different joint arrangement. Now, when that 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.240 pattern's broken, Gray always says something bad can happen. Now 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.680 what's bad. It's called compensations. Right, you create these compensations. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.600 And now I might try and make one of those 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:24.400 stable joints, like my lumbar spine instead of just flexing extending. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.400 The brain might go listen, I know you're only designed 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.800 to flex and extend, but we need some rotation right now. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.680 And you can force your need to move lateral like 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.600 it shouldn't do, or you can force your scapula to 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:39.520 become unstable and these things can create biomechanical stress on 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:41.720 the body that can lead injury for sure. 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.360 Yeah, and I remember I had my back surgery at 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.320 a micro deffected me in twenty eleven at L four 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.920 and L five. That is in my lumbar spine right 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.040 at the base of my spine and my hips. My 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.680 hips which are designed to be moved or they're designed 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.480 to be mobile. My lower back is designed to be stable, 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.760 my knee is designed to be stable. So the chain, 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:08.960 the part above and below a lot of the injuries Greg, 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.080 that we see in golf, and you know this from 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:17.520 your your medical background. Whenever my back would be hurting, 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.120 you would always say, yeah, how's your knee feeling too, 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:21.720 And I'm like, well, my knee is killing me. And 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.600 You're like, okay, it's not your back and it's not 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:28.119 your knee. It's the problem is in your hips. But 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.119 the part above and below that chain are going to 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:36.080 be where the compensation happens. The other thing that was 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.560 another light bulb moment is when we were at a 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:42.520 TPI seminar and you said, listen, you're on stage and 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:47.120 it was golf professionals, fitness guys, medical people, and I've 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:51.560 talked about this on the podcast many times. You said, 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:54.560 does anybody in here want to know how to one 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.280 hundred percent full proof way to change a motor pattern 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.840 or a movement pattern. Everybody the room holds your hand 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:02.760 up because that's what we're all trying to do. And 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:08.040 you said, introduce pain immediately. If you twist your ankle, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:12.800 you immediately learn how to walk on one leg instantaneously. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.520 No one's taught you how to do this. You didn't 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.720 go to a seminar, you didn't go on your phone 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:18.560 and look at YouTube. You sprain your ankle and you've 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:21.679 got to get from the soccer field to the car. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.200 You're going to learn how to walk on one foot, 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:30.360 and your entire body will compensate the constant compensation. As 0:18:30.400 --> 0:18:33.240 you said, for a lot of people listening, I think 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:37.080 the majority of the people listening Greg, life gets in 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.679 the way of their golf, and as a result of 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.640 life getting in the way of their golf to where 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.840 they can't devote as much time to golf as they'd 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.960 like to. Whereas the tour players that we work with, 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.879 they have to take time away from professional golf to 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.879 go on vacations. Right, most people have to take are 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.359 trying to take time away from work to go play golf. 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.080 For that golf for that is sitting in a car 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:08.000 all the day, all day traveling. What are some of 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.240 the issues that they need to look at, because I 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:12.960 think that's most people, right. Most people are going to 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.359 have a desk job, have an office job. They sit, 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.320 they're in a chair that's got wheels on it. They're 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:23.520 not doing anything rotationally. They're probably really not doing The 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:27.960 average fifteen to twenty five handicapper does no physical warm 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:29.639 up when they go to the driving range other than 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.600 the hit golf balls and a few bullshit arm circles 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:34.800 and a couple of you know, try and touch my 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:38.600 toes for two seconds. But they don't do any physical 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:43.760 warm up. They sit all day, then they stand up, 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.320 then they bend forward, and then they try and rotate 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.919 in their golf swing. That in large part is a 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:57.800 massive recipe for issues if you don't know how that's 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:58.960 affecting your golf swing. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:05.000 Two things. First of all, golf is very let's say, misleading, 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.359 Like you said, hey, it shouldn't hurt. Most people go, 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.399 I drive a cart, I drink beer, and I go 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:11.880 and swing like this isn't. It's like pickleball and people 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.320 look at pick a ball and go, oh, this is easy. Well, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:16.200 pickleball is creating more injuries than any's moore on the 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:19.520 planet right now. Golf is is It's way more stressful 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:22.200 on the body than people believe. Right, that's the first thing. 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.399 Second thing is, like you said it, wherever there's smoke, 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.520 there's fire. Right, So if your back, like for you, 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.119 your back was the smoke. Right, we can sit there 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.280 and go, hey, your back is killing me, but there's 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:36.480 probably a fire below it, which was your hips. Right, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.720 if you're in pain when you play golf, let's say 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.959 your shoulder hurts, or your back hurts, or your knee hurts. 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.200 Where there's smoke, there's fire. We usually don't treat smoke 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.480 by trying to stop the smoke. We try and put 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:54.000 out the fire. Right. So, like I'm sure you experienced 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.480 this is if your back was hurting, you might have 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.399 been like looking on the internet, all right, what are 0:20:58.440 --> 0:21:01.440 three stretches I can do for my back? That's treating smoke. 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.160 The problem is fire, right in part, Usually the part 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.000 that's on fire doesn't hurt. So you got to remember, Like, 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.400 so if I'm the average golfer out there. The first 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:11.240 thing I do is an assessment, and I go, okay, 0:21:11.320 --> 0:21:13.639 does anything sore? Even though this is I kind of 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.119 wish you would do this before you got sore. But 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.320 let's say take the average person. When I'm done playing golf, 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:22.480 my neck hurts, right, you take a quick snapshot and 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.720 go where does it hurt? And then you have to 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.400 say to yourself why, like why is my neck hurt? Right? 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:29.040 And like we said, if you go back to that 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.280 philosophy you said, there's certain joints that should be mobile, 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.120 certain joints should be stable. Your big joints, your shoulder, 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:39.720 your thoracic spine, your hips, your ankles, your wrists, those 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.239 should all be mobile. If any of those you feel like, 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.000 oh man, well it's hard for me to turn my 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.520 trunk right, Well, if it's hard for you to turn 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.159 your mobile joints, your stable joint, like your neck is 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:51.959 probably taking the hit, right, it's probably the smoke. So 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.320 don't beat up the smoke. Go put out the fire. 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.320 Go after your thraastic spine, go above and below the area, 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.280 like you said, where there's pain, and attack those first 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.880 and see if that settles. The puts the fire out 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.280 and you know, it's a beautiful world today with like, 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.040 if you need exercises, it's just like if you need 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:10.840 golf drills, you go on YouTube and find a million 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.080 of them. The question is which one do you use? Right? 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.480 And to me the simplistic way, like what should I 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.520 do before I play? Well, if you know that, hey, 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.919 my shoulder's tight or my left hip is tight, you 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:23.679 should probably do a couple of things to warm that 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:25.919 up so that your brain can try and use it 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:29.200 when you play. Because if you don't, guess what, your 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.080 brain's going to figure out a way to get it 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:32.920 done without your hip and you're gonna use your knee 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:34.920 or your lower back, and when you're done playing golf, 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:43.480 you're gonna go, damn, my bag's killing me. Obviously, we 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:45.520 would think you should go find somebody who can do 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:47.359 a TPI screen on you, right and you can find 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.600 somebody anywhere in the world right now, with probably within 0:22:49.640 --> 0:22:52.040 a twenty minute drive. They can do a physical screen 0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.439 on you. And in five minutes, we can build you 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.800 a workout program on our app that it can be 0:22:56.880 --> 0:22:59.280 five minutes, it could be sixty minutes, whatever you want, 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.399 and it and really take a lot of the guessing 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:04.680 out out of her. Like I'm sure you guys screen 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.359 every player that walks in. First thing you do, and. 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:09.960 The screen that you're talking about, I think you guys 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.200 at TPI, you and Dave were the first ones to 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:16.919 kind of systemize a way to say, Okay, these are 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.480 what we know the body needs to do to swing 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.439 a golf club, right, these are the things that we 0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:26.000 know that your body is going to be asked to do. 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:27.160 These are the things. 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.159 Story, this is not how we did it. Let me 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:30.680 tell you how we did it. Okay, how we came 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:32.919 with the screen. So the screen what we did is 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:35.720 because glaud you know this. If I sat down and 0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.080 I said, let's sake, I took the ten top golf 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.520 coaches in the world and I sat down, I said, 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:42.720 let's all agree on how you swing a golf club, 0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:47.120 how's that going to go? It'd be World War five? Right. 0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:50.680 So we always say, listen, there's a million ways of swing, 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.639 but we said, can we all agree on these are 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.840 things you shouldn't do? Which is really interesting. If you 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.720 sat down the top ten golf coaches and said, hey, 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:00.720 should you swing over the top all of them will 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.280 probably say probably not right, you know. So we went 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.840 through and this took a while to try and identify 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.760 we called the big fifteen. Now, the fifteen most common 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:16.840 let's say, biomechanical compensations or swing characteristics that most coaches 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:18.760 would say, you probably shouldn't do that, it's going to 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:23.320 make you worse. Right. So once we identified these characteristics, 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.080 like like over the top, then we said, okay, what's 0:24:27.160 --> 0:24:30.520 physically required to not come over the top. So basically 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:32.479 we went through and we tried to identify all the 0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.680 physical things that you had to do so that you 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:38.360 couldn't do these fifteen bad things. Once we identified those 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.040 physical things, we said, how can we quickly screen to 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.240 see if you have those? And that's how the screen 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:43.640 was born. 0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:48.000 So talk me through what the fifteen are, because I 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.359 think all of the terms that you're going to throw out, 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:53.520 some of them will be maybe new terms, but I 0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:55.240 think a lot of these are going to be terms 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:59.680 that golfers are used to hearing, regardless of their handicap level. 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:04.480 But because I think it really is on yeah, the 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.240 big issues that we are going to look at. 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.119 Here's the big ones. Okay, So sway right, So in 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:13.960 the backswing, if you move excessively too far away from 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:16.520 the target right uh, so you get your center of 0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:19.359 weight outside you're Let's say, if you're a right handed player, 0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:23.120 you sway to the right too far. Now, lattle motion 0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.479 is a very important part of the golf swing, but 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.040 a lot of times if you sway too much, a 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.159 lot of times you've added a new timing component and 0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:31.720 it can create problems. So if you look at the 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:33.080 best players in the world, there's not a lot of 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.760 excessive movement away from the target during the backswing. And 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:39.119 then the opposite of that is slide on the downswing 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.080 if you just keep going left versus pushing from the 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:46.040 ground properly and creating rotation, So sway and slide. Now, 0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.800 with that sane sway and slide, you can do something 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.879 called hanging back. If you sway and you stay on 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.920 your right side and you just twist, that can create 0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.520 all kinds of problems without the weight ship. And then 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.880 add one more we have something called reverse pivot, which 0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:01.439 is in the backswing, most players their trail leg and 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:03.920 then they moved to the lead leg. But some players 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.439 moved to their lead leg in the backswing and they 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:07.680 moved to their trail leg in the downswing. So a 0:26:07.720 --> 0:26:10.119 lot of these are weight ship problems. Then we have 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.400 one of the biggest problems, especially with professional golfers, something 0:26:14.440 --> 0:26:15.440 called early extension. 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.720 And explain what that is, because that's a term that 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:21.920 I say a lot. I think it's starting to get 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.760 in kind of professional golf. We talk about it on 0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.600 TV a lot. But I think it's probably the thing 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:34.640 GREG on a daily basis giving regular golfers golf lessons. 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.679 It's the number one thing that I see all the time. 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.040 And it's also probably the thing that I see people 0:26:42.119 --> 0:26:45.959 have no concept of as a concept either they don't 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.800 they don't know their lower body is supposed to work 0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:53.639 the way it is. So that early extension, that rust 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:54.720 What is that? 0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.119 Okay, So I'll tell you. So, first of all, I 0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.440 came up with that word early extension is probably that's 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:01.040 more of a meta word, so it probably wasn't the 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:05.480 greatest of golf terminology. I do. There was a there's 0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.640 a great golf professional by the name of Wayne De Francisco. 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:10.000 I don't know if you know Wayne, but I used 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.880 to work with Wayne way back in the mid nineties 0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:15.119 and he was working on my golf swing and he's like, 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:17.080 why do you keep thrusting? You keep thrusting, and he 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:18.960 showed me this, and I was like, man, and I 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.040 started seeing this with all a lot of my players. 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:22.320 I'm like, I think a lot of people do this. 0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:24.240 And I was what I was saying. I was like, 0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.800 you're supposed to stay flexed from your hips a little 0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.080 bit longer, but I kept early extending out of my hips. 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.360 In other words, if you look from down the line 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.119 the down to the target line, and you put a 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:36.560 line behind my butt in the downswing or in the backswing, 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.080 my lower body started to move towards the golf ball. Right. 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.920 Now there's the space between your belt buckle and the 0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:44.520 golf ball. Right when you set up to a ball, 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.200 there's a certain distance you get it from the ball. 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.520 I always say that space in front of you is 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.119 for your hands in the club. If your lower body 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.480 invades that space and your lower body moves towards the 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.639 golf ball, first of all, it'll force you to stand 0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.560 up taller as your lower body moves close to the ball. 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.240 But now there's no space for your hands in the 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.480 club to go. So you have to figure out how 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.040 to get this job done, and you're either going to 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.960 try and flip the club and create this hook that happens, 0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.080 or you're gonna get stuck. Your arms are gonna get 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:12.800 stuck behind, You're gonna leave the face open and it 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:14.920 creates the block. Now, the problem with the early extension 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.840 is it creates both misses. You have the block to 0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.000 the right and the hook to the left, and as 0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:20.560 you know, it's kind of hard to play golf when 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.080 you have both misses. You're not sure which way it's 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.719 going right. So this early extension to me, I was like, 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.400 why are people moving towards the ball instead of rotating? 0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.119 You know, this is a rotational sport. I'm like, why 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.840 am I doing this? And it's just such an easy 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.720 compensation strategy to stand up if you can't rotate, it 0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.840 just makes sense. It's almost like you're chopping wood. You're 0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:42.920 up and down, up and down versus twisting. And as 0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.200 you know, you know, there's lots of reasons why people 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.400 don't twist, and early said, if you have any rotation 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:48.880 problems or if you don't know how to use the 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.920 ground properly, early extensions is probably in your future. And 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.880 then make it even worse you go get club fit, 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.880 and the club fitter says, oh, it looks like your 0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.160 toes hitting the ground, so we're gonna bend your club's 0:28:59.160 --> 0:29:01.360 a little upright to get at your the bottom of 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:04.800 the contact better. And maybe because your handles standing up 0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.960 because you're standing up, maybe the club needs to be longer. 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:08.200 And all of a sudden you get fit to a 0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.520 club that only works if you early extend, and we 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.000 have players. If you're if you're long and upright, you 0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.120 better look is your butt moving towards the ball, because 0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:17.440 if you aren't, you've been fit into a problem. Right, 0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.600 So early sent is definitely one of the most common 0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:21.960 one of the things. 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:26.520 After learning about early extension, Ryan Carsler, who you know, 0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.040 we used to come out and see you guys all 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:33.160 the time. Ryan came up with the anti early extension club. 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:37.920 So he took a seven iron, made it two inches short, 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:46.360 made it really really flat. If you early extend, meaning 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:51.240 if you stand up, your hips go closer to the 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.400 golf ball and that upper body goes back. If you 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.280 do that with the golf club, this is two inches. 0:29:56.520 --> 0:29:58.120 I mean, I think that's where Ryan saw it. He 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.760 saw you guys do it with Padra, that's the introducing pain. 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.400 Like you said, you know, if you want to change 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.080 a motor pattern, introduce pain early extent with that club. 0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:09.560 It's pain. The ball goes everywhere, right, so it's trying 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.880 to figure out how to how to not do that 0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:13.280 can be very motivational. 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.120 Also, that the way that lower body works in the 0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:21.080 downswing to where the lower body, the pelvis kind of 0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.239 everything kind of below your belt buckle when on the 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.440 downswing that gets closer to the ball. You told me 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:32.520 also once about how your upper body and your lower 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:36.920 body work. Whichever direction your lower body goes, your upper 0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.120 body is going to go in the opposite direction, mainly 0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.040 just to keep you from falling over to fine balance. 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.880 So think about how many people that are listening right 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:50.440 now to where their number, their one and two misses 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.840 are with their irons. They either hit the golf ball 0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:56.480 thin or they hit the golf ball heavy. And how 0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.240 many players have you seen over the years, Greg that say, 0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.720 really after about my nine iron, I never take a 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.760 dibbot with any of my irons, right, And if I 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.280 do take a dibbot, it's behind the golf ball. I 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:12.000 hit the golf ball fat. Whenever I see that, I 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:16.600 immediately go to, okay, what is their lower body? That's 0:31:16.640 --> 0:31:20.800 the first place I go when I see a player 0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:25.640 greg struggling with contact, I immediately want to know, is 0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.920 okay are they early extending on the on the on 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.640 the on the downscreen. But the other thing, and you 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.800 could talk about this better than I could. There are 0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:38.120 a lot of players on the backswing that are early extending. 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.160 And we see that when on the backswing the weight 0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.960 if you're right handed golfer, on your back swing, when 0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.800 the weight massively goes to your toes on the on 0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.080 on the backswing, especially on your right toe. 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:51.120 So on the. 0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.720 Backswing, that weight it's way over on the right toe, 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:58.160 the pelvis, the lower body is sometimes getting closer to 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:01.360 the golf ball on the backswing, and it's very hard 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:04.680 for then the lower body to get away from the 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:06.000 golf ball on the downswing. 0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.000 I mean, I hate to make it like obvious, but 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:11.920 I always say, like, okay, let's say you're I know, 0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:15.440 you have your facilion Dubai. Let's say you're on a 0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.440 skyscraper there and you're at the top, you're at the 0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:20.960 top floor, and you're like, hey, the buildings swaying too much. 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.400 It's moving too much. Right, Are you going to work 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:25.040 on the top floor? Are you going to go look 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:28.000 at the foundation? Right? You know, it's like if the 0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.480 club is doing things and it's moving in different ways 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:32.080 up here, Bone's like, oh, it's just got to fix 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.560 their hands. I'm like, look at the foundation, it's moving 0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.960 all over the place, right, Like. It's kind of hard. 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:40.240 It has to compensate based on what's happening with the 0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:41.840 lawer body. If your lower body moves too far to 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:43.520 the left, your upbody's going to side, then too far 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.120 to the right. All these things are there to keep 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:48.400 you upright, to keep you balanced right. That's why is 0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.959 the building swinging. It's trying to compensate, trying to balance 0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:54.840 itself out right. So you know, early extension, like you said, 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.160 can happen in the backswing, especially if you have to 0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:58.600 think about it. If it's hard for you to turn 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.360 your spine to the right and it's hard for you 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.440 to rotate into your right hip, it'll probably happen in 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.360 the back swinging. If it's hard for you to rotate 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:05.840 to the left or on your left tip, it's probably 0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.160 gonna hurt in the early extent. In the dan swing, 0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.560 and then we have people we call unstable early extenders. 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:12.520 They early extend the backswing and then they add more 0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.160 in the dance wing right, and they want to know, like, hey, 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:16.680 how can I shake the ball every once in a while, 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.600 Like you're two inches to five inches closer to the 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.080 golf ball than you were it set up. I go, 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.760 the fact that you actually hit the hozzle was a miracle. Right, 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:25.560 you're moving so close right. 0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:31.080 So chicken winging. I think that's another thing. When you 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.840 give golf lessons to everyday golfers, like like I do 0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.640 and like you do. You see that kind of right 0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.120 elbow if they're a right handed golfer, that left elbow 0:33:40.200 --> 0:33:42.640 kind of getting in that chicken wing. From that down 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:45.480 the line, you'll see that elbow. What are some of 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.800 the issues if you have that kind of chicken wing 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.040 over the top move that an enormous amount of people 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.160 doc living listening to this podcast are going to have, right, 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:56.360 they are going to have that kind of over the 0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.959 top move and then that pull across to where that 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.000 left elbow if you're a left hand, right handed golfer 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.800 gets into that chicken wing, what are some of the 0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.480 things to look at and some of the ways to 0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:07.320 address that. 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.239 Okay, So, first of all, chicken winging anytime on the downswing, 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:16.520 if your lead shoulder is internally rotating versus externally rotating, 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.120 creates called chicken wing, and the backswing we call it 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.799 flying elbow, like if you're instead of rotating, if you're 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.080 like a Fred Couples has like our John Daley as 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.080 a frying elbow, where the tiger woods would have more 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.240 of an externally rotated So this can happen the backswing 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:31.040 you're downswing. The captain obvious thing here is, of course, 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:34.880 if your shoulders don't have mobility or your forms can't rotate, 0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.560 it can create these things. But that is not the 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.800 most common cause of chicken winging or flying elbow. Chicken winging, 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.720 like you said, a lot of times, is a result 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.719 of trying to hit the ball straight from over the top. 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.560 So in other words, over the top is when you 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:52.760 get steep right. So usually it's your upper body starts 0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:55.439 the downswing versus your lower body. When your upper body 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.040 starts the downswing, typically we start to twist too early. 0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.839 When your lower body starts to downswing. Usually your upper 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.480 body drops in the club will shallow early, and then 0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.920 as you rotate, it'll go steep late. If you go 0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:08.839 steep early, you come over the top. Right now, your 0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:11.160 whole thought is how do I shallow late? Right? When 0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:13.040 you try and shallow late, there's a couple of ways 0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.960 to shallow or to prevent the club face from closing. 0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.239 One of the best ways to prevent the club face 0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.960 from closing is the chicken wing It almost like there 0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.440 are some great players that actually chicken wing or Calvin 0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:28.400 p Yeah, I mean and think about like Lee Westwood 0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.399 or even Jordan Speed Like, some of these guys will 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.760 do this to try and prevent the club face from rotating. 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.200 There's there's some guys that try and do it to 0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:39.080 keep the face as square as possible. So if you 0:35:39.360 --> 0:35:42.880 are steep in any way over the top, one of 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.200 the best strategies to prevent the club from going the 0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:47.759 ball from going left is the chicken winging right. So 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.799 I would say, you know, hey, let's play that game. 0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.000 Why again? Right? So why are you chicken winging? Oh? 0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:54.960 It's because I'm over the top? Okay, why are you 0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.279 over the top? Right? Most people are over the top 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.279 because their lowervite is not working. Properly. Why is lower 0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.279 by not working properly? Like we keep playing this game 0:36:02.360 --> 0:36:04.879 like because if you can't disassociate, start with your lower 0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.160 body over the top is in your future, which then 0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:11.400 leads to casting, chicken winging, scooping, all the other characteristics 0:36:11.480 --> 0:36:12.160 that we talked about. 0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.120 Warm ups, Greg, you know, if you go to a 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:20.640 football game, a basketball game, a baseball game, any competitive 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:24.000 team sport, you're probably gonna want to get there for 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.440 the warm up. Watch them war up the warm up 0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.440 for some of these. For basketball, like the NBA right now, 0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:32.840 the playoffs are going on. I mean they're there probably 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:37.200 four hours before the game. They're doing a warm up 0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:41.400 on the court, probably two hours they're getting worked on. 0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:44.560 Golfers now, I mean you know this because you work 0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.080 with some of the best players in the world. They 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:50.360 all basically have everybody. Would you say, is there anybody 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:54.600 inside the top fifty in the world currently, Greg, that 0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:57.839 doesn't have a physical team around them. 0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:03.680 It's very rare. I think no, not in the top fifty. 0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:05.759 I mean, I don't know who you arrive. I mean, 0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.920 you got to think about it. You can't give other 0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.600 players any advantage, right, So I'm like it doesn't matter 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.680 what it is. But if you are I like, if 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:15.399 you take the best players in the world, their whole 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.200 goal is to number one, prepare their bodies so it's 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:20.640 not an excuse. And number two is to make it 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:22.759 so that when they play tomorrow they feel like they 0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:25.640 didn't play yesterday, right, so they feel fresh. If you're 0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:28.440 not doing things to recover and things prepare yourself, you're 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.640 just giving your competitors an advantage. And the best in 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.160 the world don't want to give advantages. 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.120 No, I mean, and I think that's that's the thing. 0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.520 But the average golfer sits all week. They don't do 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:42.040 anything really athletic during the week. Maybe they go to 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.439 the gym or maybe they don't. But I would say 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:49.040 it's a generalization, but the majority of handicapped golfers that 0:37:49.160 --> 0:37:53.680 I work with tend to be predominantly men. They tend 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:58.120 to basically have office jobs. They're not incredibly active. They 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.640 come to the golf course and they expect their body 0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.800 to work without really warming it up. Give me a 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:10.799 ten to fifteen minute warm up that a player can 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.239 do that doesn't really take a lot of equipment, that 0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:17.400 they can do on the driving range in the parking 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.400 lot in the locker room. Give me ten to fifteen 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.640 minutes of something that players listening could do that would 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:27.839 help their body be prepared for the movement that we're 0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:29.960 going to ask your body to do in Gulf swing. 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:32.480 Great question, and I think this might surprise a lot 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:34.560 of people what I say here. So I think in 0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.719 the past we used to think claude that you know, 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:40.799 because we'd watch athletes in the past stretch, like you'd 0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:42.640 sit there and you do these hold stretches and we 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.400 spend fifteen twenty minutes. Well, a lot of research has 0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.440 been done on this and stretching is very powerful and 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.480 it can help us in your main workouts. But before 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.399 you play, one of the last things in the world 0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.000 we want to do is increase your range of motion 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.360 to where you're not sure, Like if I give you 0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.880 twenty degrees the more shoulder turn, that sounds great, but 0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:02.000 hitting the ball over the green is not great. Or 0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.320 not knowing how to control where the club bases this 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.120 is not great before you play. So before you play, 0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.960 we're not trying to create new mobility. We're not trying 0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.680 to change your swiming. We're trying to warm up the 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.399 tissue you're about to use, right, And it's more about 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.600 what we call motor unit activation. I'm trying to get 0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.920 more of your muscles to be firing so that when 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:24.280 they go to play, it's like they've already been warmed 0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.640 up and doing this. So to me, motor unit activation 0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.640 or warm up should be exactly what it sounds like, 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:33.800 some type of activation of the muscles. Right. So what 0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:37.080 most players do is we take some type of band. 0:39:37.160 --> 0:39:39.000 Take any type of exercise band. You can get these 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:42.000 anywhere from Amazon, TP you get all these bands, you 0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.680 attach it to a door somewhere. Right, You take the band, 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.400 and what most people are going to do, if I 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:49.000 look at the high level, even if you look at 0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:50.800 the best players in the world, part of their program 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:52.360 is going to be this. We're going to do some 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.399 type of pushing, pulling, chopping lifting right. So you might 0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.440 see them pulling a band right with big rotation, maybe 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.760 in a lunch stants or squares stand like a golf stance, 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.520 pulling right. Then we'll turn around, we'll push and we'll 0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.840 do pushing right, because the golf swing is a series 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.200 of pulling and pushing right, So we'll do push and 0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:12.360 pull and you can do this from different angles, and 0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:14.080 then we do it's called chopping and lifting. It's like 0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.400 a diagonal across your body, right, because your arms are 0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:18.000 now chopping down on the golf thing. So we'll do 0:40:18.160 --> 0:40:21.360 chopping and lifting. We'll do both directions, right, So some chops, 0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.200 some lifts, some push, some polls. If you wanted to 0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.319 do like an exercise bike or something just to warm 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.240 up because you're about to walk five to eight miles, 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.279 or even if you're riding a cart, you're still usually 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.960 have to do some walking. So some type of light 0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.920 activation cardio wise pushing, pulling, chopping, lifting cloud would go 0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:40.359 like a mile for most people that are doing nothing 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.200 right now for warm up, as simple as that, and 0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:45.480 it could take literally five minutes to just get in 0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:47.439 there and do let's say two minutes on a bike 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.040 and then three minutes of pushing, pulling, chopping and lifting, 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.400 and you'll probably play with less pain just doing that. 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.320 If you don't have a bike, you could do jumping jacks, 0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.120 you could do air squabs, you could do some light 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:00.920 running and stuff like. And then the other thing is 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.719 you said you can go online and find a piece 0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:05.719 of fair band, a piece of band that can go 0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:07.800 to my TPI dot com and get all that. You 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.800 could keep it in your your your golf back, and 0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:11.960 then you could attach it to the golf cart. You 0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.080 could just tide around the golf cart. You could tie 0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.799 it to If you think about where you're sitting if 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.359 you're driving the golf cart, if you're sitting above kind 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.759 of where your right your left shoulder would be, there's 0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.120 probably going to be a handle you could attach it. 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:26.719 That's where you could do the chop, and then you 0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:30.640 could put it put it on the side of the 0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:32.040 cart and do the push pulls. 0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:35.440 Yea, and that experiment. This isn't the greatest way to 0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:37.000 do it, but if you wanted to, like let's say 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.000 you're gonna you know, you're gonna play four times this month, 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.440 you can say one time, I'm gonna just warm up 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.640 by doing pushing, and the next time I'm gonna warm 0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:45.040 up by doing pulling, and then the next time I 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:46.800 gona warm up by chopping that kind of lifting, and 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:49.000 you might notice like, hey, when I did pulling, I 0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.000 felt way better. You can start to try and figure 0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.120 out what works, or maybe it's like hey, when I 0:41:53.200 --> 0:41:54.879 warm up my hips, I felt better. But not when 0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.759 I had warmed up my spine like a little bit. 0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:58.719 Experimenting goes a long way. If you try something and 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.640 you feel like I didn't feel any difference, you didn't 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.600 do the right thing, Like it literally shouldn't. You should 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:05.480 feel better by the time you're done than the around before. 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:08.799 If you want up properly and then cool down, it's 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.239 probably even more important, I'd say, like recovery is even 0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.240 more important. So you're doing tissue damage when you're playing 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.880 uh to to kind of some form of recovery, and 0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:19.640 there's a million Like if you go look at some 0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:21.080 of the best players in the world now, like their 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.520 houses look like recovery centers at wellness centers, right, I 0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:28.400 mean from this your typical ice bass to heat, so 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:30.560 ice and heat people use a lot, but things like 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:36.200 infrared SNAs, red lights, hyperbaric oxygen chambers, oh something like. 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:39.160 There's so many different things now that are out there 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.520 that if you are serious about your game and you 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:43.719 are starting to get aches and pains, get serious about 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:47.680 your recovery as well, can make a huge difference. 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Let's say 0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:08.600 he was off early. Let's say teeing off around seven, seven, fifteen, 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.359 he's getting off around four. He's eating probably around five. 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.359 It's teen off at seven. There would be times early 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:17.440 in Brooks's career where in the middle of the back 0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.920 nine he hadn't He doesn't. He hasn't had anything to 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:24.000 eat since five o'clock in the morning. His brain is 0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:29.680 completely dead. Right, what should players be just the recreational golfer? 0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:32.680 Which are you doing? He just says it really important. 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:34.759 What was his first sign? Because this is all the 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:39.600 research shows. The first sign of nutritional problem is mental fatigue. 0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:41.080 Is making bad decisions ring day. 0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:42.960 Yeah, he made bad decisions. 0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.400 Yeah. I mean people don't think. They're like, oh, but 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.279 I don't feel tired. I'm like, I don't understand, Like, 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.239 did you make some bad decisions out there? Because that 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:53.120 brain fog is a nutrient problem that's coming in. Yeah. 0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:56.800 Whatever, What what should people be eating on the golf course? 0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.440 What should they be drinking on the golf course? Because 0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.640 they're all a lot of golfers that don't drink or 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:03.400 eat anything. 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.759 Yeah, yeah, so this is you know there again, every 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.040 person's different. I hate that answer, but it's true. Some 0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.000 people will certain nutrients work better. But in general, there 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.200 are three types of foods you can eat, right, A fat, 0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:19.200 carbohydrate or protein. Right, most people, if you go protein, 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.880 it takes them a while to digest the protein and 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:23.719 get the nutrients. Like if you're using like beef turkey, 0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.279 which a lot of people put because it's easy in 0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.120 the bag, they can do it. But just to know, 0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:28.919 like you if you're like, man, I need some energy 0:45:29.080 --> 0:45:30.319 right now, and you need a beef jerkey, it's going 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:32.160 to take you a couple holes before, if at least, 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.600 for that to kind of kick in. Then there's carbohydrates. 0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:39.839 Carbohydrates like a banana, right, fruits, vegetables. If you if 0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:42.480 you eat a banana, it's a very quick rush, right, 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:44.560 so it's it's cype fruit. Does it gets into your 0:45:44.560 --> 0:45:46.560 blood sugar right away? You can get the energy, but 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.520 it creates these ups and downs your blood sugar. So 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:52.160 it's like, if you're going to do carbohydrates, then I 0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.600 wouldn't make a schedule like every two holes you're eating 0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.000 something or drinking something just to try and keep that 0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:59.440 because you need to keep it flushed in there. So 0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:01.719 what most players use, believe it or not. And like 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.279 I said, when I say most seventy percent, so there's 0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.960 thirty percent aren't doing this. They're using carbohydrate or protein. 0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:09.879 Like it would be fats, right, So fats number one, 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.880 you get more energy per killed calorie of energy of 0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.920 fat that you get in there, and it's slow sustained 0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.279 blood sugar release. And what's the most common fat would 0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.719 be nuts and seeds. So like some type of trail mix, 0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.080 some type of bars with the you know, you see 0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.239 these all over the place. They're very stable in the bag. 0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.200 And I think you know, between that and like these, 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.279 the carbohydrates are probably the most common that people use 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:38.960 during the course. But nothing is going to fix a 0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.719 crappy diet though, Claudes, right. So, like like you said, 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:45.399 hopefully Brooks's breakfast was good, right, If you've got crap 0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:48.400 for breakfasts and then the golf cart comes around with 0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:51.000 the food and you're grabbing a Snickers and a gatorade 0:46:51.120 --> 0:46:54.600 and it's just more sugar and it's it's it's hard 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:57.200 to repair on the golf course right, So you know, Uh, 0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.320 to me, I always say, it's just general new tditional 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.440 advice if you're again, if you take your game serious. 0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.600 The easiest nutritional advice I was ever told was take 0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:08.160 your plate of food, whatever food you're about to eat, right, 0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:11.560 and if you look at the quantity of fats, carbohydrate, 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:15.760 and protein, if it is about half carbohydrate, a quarter fat, 0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.480 a quarter protein, you're doing pretty good as long as 0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.800 you're picking the right carbohydrates fats in it, right, So 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.360 that's kind of a good mixture. But if it's like 0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:25.440 if you look at your meal and you're like, this 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:27.320 is one hundred percent fat, or this is one hundred 0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.960 percent carbohydrate, it's one hundred percent of protein, it's probably 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:30.719 not the best. 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:36.520 Our. Everybody's trying to hit the golf ball further. Players 0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.880 now are hitting the golf ball further than they ever have. 0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.359 You kind of started out in the long drive world. 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:46.200 But when we're talking about power in twenty twenty four, 0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:50.040 Greg something that I think a lot of people listening 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.080 to the pod are going to be hearing on a 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:56.120 regular basis now on TV. They're hearing players talk about it, 0:47:56.160 --> 0:48:00.000 they're hearing commentators ground force reaction how players are using 0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:04.760 the ground. How can we explain that to everyone listening 0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.840 so they have an understanding of what it means, but 0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:12.600 also how they can start to identify how they're using 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:16.120 the ground force reactions and how they can better use 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:17.080 them for power. 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.680 Yeah, and this is really a it's been like a 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.359 tidal wave of information over the last five to ten years, 0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.719 and it's really because of technology. Right. We now have 0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:29.120 these force plates on the ground where we can measure 0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:32.399 what the players are doing when they use their feet 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:34.160 or when they push from the ground. And what we 0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:37.239 found is and Newton knew this long time ago, right, 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.440 he has these He had this law, this third law 0:48:39.480 --> 0:48:41.879 whereas there's an equal opsic reaction where if I push 0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:44.000 into the ground with one hundred pounds, the ground's going 0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:46.120 to push back in one hundred pounds, right, And that 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.279 force that we put into the ground, as it the 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.399 ground pushes back into us, we can use that force 0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.400 to create rotation and power. Right. And what we've what 0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:58.000 we've found is that if you look at the best 0:48:58.000 --> 0:48:59.799 players in the world, we used to think, I'm sure 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.279 back in the day Claude, we used to think like, 0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:05.000 let's look at their lead leged impact right, and we're like, 0:49:05.040 --> 0:49:08.040 you know, it needs to be firm and planted and solid. 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:10.880 And there's we used to call it posting up on 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.879 the left side right right. Well, I mean, I don't 0:49:14.880 --> 0:49:16.600 know if anybody does that anymore. Like if you look 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:18.080 at Scotty Shot, I don't even think it's what's on 0:49:18.120 --> 0:49:20.319 the ground at impact. Right. So if you look at 0:49:20.360 --> 0:49:24.520 we've learned so much about these ground reaction forces. There's 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:25.920 a couple of things that I think are reported for 0:49:25.960 --> 0:49:28.879 people who know. Number one, the best players in the world, 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:32.200 they do it way earlier than you think. Right, if 0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:35.919 you're looking at impact, it's too late. Because Newton also 0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:38.640 had his first law was an object at rest stays 0:49:38.680 --> 0:49:41.120 at rest unless some type of force is applied to it. 0:49:42.480 --> 0:49:44.879 You need to push from the ground to be able 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.480 to move. Right, So when you push from the ground, 0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.799 a chain reaction happens that makes you move. If you're 0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:53.640 trying to push at impact, it's too late. It already 0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:55.840 the movement already started. Right. So the best players in 0:49:55.880 --> 0:49:59.239 the world they push from the ground right between the 0:49:59.320 --> 0:50:02.960 top of the backs swing and shaft vertical right, that's 0:50:03.000 --> 0:50:04.880 when they push. Because now that energy needs to go 0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:06.680 from your lower body to your trunk to your arms 0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.279 to the club. If you start pushing later, it's too late. 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:11.520 You can't get it to the club. So the number 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.400 one rule of ground reaction for us is is the 0:50:13.440 --> 0:50:15.560 best players in the world they do it way earlier 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.360 than amateurs. Amateurs are always late. I'm like, you're trying 0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.320 to You're trying to push from the ground at impact. 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.080 I'm like that this have to happened way earlier. So 0:50:24.360 --> 0:50:27.359 the first thing we're realizing is how soon these things happen, right. 0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:30.680 And it's one of the I use an example that 0:50:30.920 --> 0:50:35.040 I hope this comes across on a podcast I do. 0:50:35.239 --> 0:50:37.879 I teach my players something called a golf vertical jump. 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.840 I have ever done this with you? No? Okay, So 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.279 to me this, out of all the things we try 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.360 to use, rotary chairs, all stuff, I feel like this 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:47.399 is the one that gives the biggest light bulb moment. 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:49.880 And that is if I said, okay, I want you 0:50:50.000 --> 0:50:52.600 to jump, right, most people, if I say do a 0:50:52.680 --> 0:50:55.160 vertical jump, They're gonna squat, their arms are going to 0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.919 go down, and as they jump, their arms are gonna 0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:01.560 go up. Right. Can I see us on this or 0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:05.400 this is this a video podcast or just down okay, okay, okay. 0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:07.880 So so basically what you're gonna do is if you 0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:09.800 stand up and try this. Okay, if I say, just 0:51:09.880 --> 0:51:12.200 do a counter movement of jump, you're gonna squat and jump. 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:13.920 You'll notice when you squat, your arms are gonna go 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:15.840 down and as you jump, your arms are gonna go up. 0:51:16.440 --> 0:51:18.040 I want you to now do a golf jump, which 0:51:18.080 --> 0:51:20.120 is the complete opposite. As you squat, I want you 0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:21.920 to raise your arms up and as you jump, I 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.880 want you to drive your arms down. Right when you 0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.480 do that, you're gonna realize that when your legs jump, 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.400 your legs can actually drive your arms down. And that's 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:32.359 what happens in the golf swing. And the golf swing 0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:33.600 is on the top of the back swing, there's a 0:51:33.640 --> 0:51:36.600 little squat as they start the down swing. The jump 0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.279 with the legs drives the arms down. It's not the 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:41.239 arms come down and then you try and jump your legs. 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:43.840 It's the legs drive the arms. And if you do 0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.239 this at home and you do a jump this time, 0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:48.160 when you do the jump, once you get that feeling 0:51:48.160 --> 0:51:50.040 because it's weird, it's like backwards to lift your arms 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.120 up and squat and then jump and drive your arms down. 0:51:52.719 --> 0:51:55.120 Try and do it, but try and jump backwards a 0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:58.200 little bit right. Don't jump closer to the ball. Jump 0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:00.160 farther away from the ball. So as you squat and 0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:04.040 you jump away from the the golf bar will jump backwards. 0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:06.920 You'll start to feel what the best players in the 0:52:06.960 --> 0:52:09.600 world do in transition. And if you take it one 0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:13.000 step further, if I say, okay, I want you to 0:52:13.080 --> 0:52:15.600 take your hands together. Instead of just lifting your hands up, 0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:17.319 take your hands over your right shoulder for a right 0:52:17.360 --> 0:52:20.319 handed player, squat and then as you jump, I want 0:52:20.360 --> 0:52:22.560 you to feel like you're jumping with maybe twice as 0:52:22.640 --> 0:52:25.680 much from your leave foot as your trail foot. And 0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:28.200 make sure you jump backwards. When you do that, look 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:31.400 at your feet. You'll be like, man, my feet, just it, 0:52:31.520 --> 0:52:33.680 just just jump backwards and move. And I'll say look 0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:35.520 at your feet, and I'll go look at Scotti Scheffler's 0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:38.120 feet because that's exactly what he's doing right right, And 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:40.600 it's it's like a light bulb because what we've found 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.360 is that when you actually shake the handle of the 0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:46.359 whip first, the tip of the whip goes a lot faster, right. 0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:48.480 So what we've been finding is that a lot of 0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:50.160 people are just trying to crack the tip of the 0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:51.680 whip by just moving the tip of the whip, and 0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:53.799 we're like, no, you actually should shake the handle first, 0:52:54.080 --> 0:52:56.560 and then the energy transfers through your body and that's 0:52:56.600 --> 0:53:00.319 where that that ground reaction force comes in that. 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:03.520 I think we've been able to measure now and like 0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:05.960 you said, the best players in the world, a lot 0:53:06.000 --> 0:53:10.280 of things are happening much earlier than the average golfer. 0:53:14.800 --> 0:53:18.360 A lot of things happened earlier for the best players 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.440 in the world. And one of the things that I 0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:24.359 think we've known for a while that is a tough 0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:27.279 one for the average golfer is I think in an 0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:30.000 effort to get power, a lot of players make that big, 0:53:30.320 --> 0:53:33.120 massive move off the golf ball over to the right 0:53:34.080 --> 0:53:36.439 and then, as you said, they're trying to get back 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:39.920 over to their left, but they're doing it at impact. 0:53:40.920 --> 0:53:43.840 Victor Houghlin's become a member at my club, the Floridian, 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:46.560 and we've got swing catalysts and stuff. So anytime any 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:49.000 good players are around, I'm like, listen, can we just 0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:52.080 get you on swing catalyst to see what it is 0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:55.040 that you're doing. I mainly am doing it just so 0:53:55.160 --> 0:53:57.680 I can kind of see what the best players in 0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:01.600 the world are doing. And we got on swing cat 0:54:01.719 --> 0:54:06.440 and when his left when his hands were about in 0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:10.080 line with his right thigh, he had ninety percent of 0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:15.680 his pressure on his right side, but his body hadn't moved. 0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:18.759 There hadn't been any movement with his upper body or 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:22.040 his lower body. And then by the time his arms 0:54:22.200 --> 0:54:26.400 got about his hands got about shoulder height, he already 0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:30.759 had seventy to eighty percent of his weight already going 0:54:30.880 --> 0:54:34.239 to his left foot, his lead foot, before he even 0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:38.040 changed it. I think so many golfers like they're trying 0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:40.600 to wind it up so much they get over on 0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:43.759 their right side, they're trying to make that big shoulder turn, 0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:46.000 and then they just get stuck over there. 0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:47.800 I think what you just what you just said is 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:51.879 very very important. Is when you're looking at a force 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:53.680 plate or even a pressure mat, which a lot of 0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:56.279 people will get on those, right now, you're looking at 0:54:56.400 --> 0:54:59.000 how much force they're pushing into the ground. So when 0:54:59.080 --> 0:55:02.440 you says Victor was pushing ninety percent of his pushes 0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:05.239 coming from his right leg, So think this through and 0:55:05.320 --> 0:55:05.840 it's happening. 0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:09.360 Greg Like, if we were looking at slow motion frames, 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.200 it's like three frames off the golf ball. 0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:15.319 Think about this. When you push with your right foot 0:55:15.360 --> 0:55:18.520 into the ground, most people move left right. 0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:19.839 How do I move left? 0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:22.200 I push from my right leg to move left. So 0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.439 when people see the force plate going hey, it's ninety 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.680 percent right, I'm like, because he's already starting to push 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:30.440 left right, he's it's not that he's moving to the right. 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:32.640 I think a lot of people make this mistake. They go, oh, look, 0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:34.400 I got to move ninety percent on my body to 0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:36.080 the right, and then I got to move my ninety 0:55:36.080 --> 0:55:37.320 percent of my body to the left. I'm like, no, no, 0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:40.080 that's where they're pushing right. So it's actually the opposite. 0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.800 They're pushing from their right leg to move left, and 0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:45.280 then they push from their left leg, which pushes them backwards. 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:47.520 So it's it's the opposite of what you're thinking. Right 0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:50.120 to most players, they look at force and they go, oh, 0:55:50.160 --> 0:55:51.520 it's weight shift. I'm like, no, no, no, I never 0:55:51.560 --> 0:55:54.000 said weight shift. I said how much you're pushing right. 0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:56.480 So what you just said, which is really important, is 0:55:56.560 --> 0:55:59.000 most players they already start to they start to push 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:01.320 from their right leg in the back, and then early 0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:05.239 they started pushing from their left to create this vertical jump. 0:56:05.320 --> 0:56:07.520 We just talked about this vertical it's not that they 0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.239 move right and move left. Yes, there's a little bit 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:12.319 of right and left movement, but most players are pretty centered. 0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.479 There's not a ton of movement right. I think people 0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:20.680 misunderstand ground force and weight shift is really yeah, they're. 0:56:20.600 --> 0:56:29.040 Basic historic thumbs, Greg. I think historically, because people are 0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:32.560 so afraid of moving. You know, everybody I talk to 0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.359 is saying, Oh, I don't want to sway, I don't 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:37.800 want to slide, you know, I want to try and 0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.080 but I still want to try and get power. And 0:56:40.200 --> 0:56:42.759 then what has everybody historically been told, Hey, you got 0:56:42.840 --> 0:56:45.160 to get your left shoulder behind the golf ball. But 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:47.200 I think a lot of times what happens is if 0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:49.880 you think about the buttons on your shirt. What I 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:52.680 was talking about what Victor Hoblin does is he's got 0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:56.160 ninety percent of his pressure in his right foot when 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.440 his hands are kind of when his triangle of his 0:56:59.600 --> 0:57:01.839 arms are kind of right over his right thigh. 0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:03.279 But the buttons on. 0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:07.120 His shirt haven't even moved right. It's just what's happening 0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:08.200 with the lower body. 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:10.360 You can stand if anybody if you stand up and 0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:12.920 I said, okay, I feel like you're pushing from your 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:14.600 right like push from your left leg. You can do 0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:16.840 that without moving right. I can push into the ground 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:18.440 without moving. I don't have to like I said, I 0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:20.720 don't have to wait shift. Now there is there is 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:25.360 a normal kinetic sequence that happens. We talk about kinematic sequence, 0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:27.760 which is basically the sequence how your body moves. But 0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:30.480 there's a kinetic sequence, which is the forces that you use. 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:33.440 And typically what happens like you just described in the 0:57:33.480 --> 0:57:34.960 middle of the back swing, like I was just with 0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:37.479 John Rahm a couple of days ago, like talk about 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:38.960 starting the earliest. I mean, he doesn't even have a 0:57:39.040 --> 0:57:42.640 back so he starts right. So so basically in the 0:57:42.680 --> 0:57:45.280 middle of the back swing, they start to push with 0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:47.480 their trail leg so that they can start to go 0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:49.960 forward right. Because remember if I push from my right 0:57:50.040 --> 0:57:52.280 usually it makes me go left right. So they're starting 0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:54.800 early to push from their trail leg and creates a 0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:57.560 linear mood. So the first force we see is a 0:57:57.640 --> 0:57:59.520 linear move right from right to left, and it's a 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:01.960 push from the trailer the lead leg. Then we see 0:58:02.000 --> 0:58:04.280 what's we call frontel plane torque, which is like a 0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:06.600 rocking motion where they bring their right shoulder down. For 0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.200 a right handed player, that's what helps shallow the club. 0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:12.040 It's like a twisting right. Then the next thing you 0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:14.040 do is you see the actually rotation. Right, they start 0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.640 to twist and rotate, and then there's that vertical jump. 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:21.040 That's the normal kinetic sequence. It's lateral rock twist jump, 0:58:21.120 --> 0:58:23.760 and all of that occurs before the shafts vertical right. 0:58:24.040 --> 0:58:25.720 So you got to if you don't start in the 0:58:25.760 --> 0:58:28.200 middle of the back swing, I'm sorry, you got no chance, 0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:30.160 or you're gonna have a different kinetic sequence than the 0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:31.000 best players in the world. 0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.240 Well, there's a girl that I've had her on the 0:58:33.280 --> 0:58:35.600 pod before, but Marina Alex who I work with. She 0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:39.920 plays the LPGA. Marina is in her you know, early thirties, right, 0:58:40.560 --> 0:58:44.120 she's five 'ot three. She's had some back issues. She 0:58:44.160 --> 0:58:46.600 played at Manderbolk. She's a two time winner on the 0:58:46.720 --> 0:58:49.720 on the LPGA. She's played on the Solheim Cup. She 0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:52.280 carries the golf ball with her driver right around that 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:56.040 two twenty five to two thirty in the air right. 0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:59.560 But she's always been trying. When I first started working 0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:01.520 with her, you know, three years ago, she was trying 0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:05.240 to get all the power in the backswing, specifically with 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:08.800 the driver. We'd see her at the top of her backswing, Greg, 0:59:09.240 --> 0:59:13.240 get ninety percent of her weight on her right side, 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:18.400 make this and this big, massive move over to the right. 0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:22.040 The problem is that five, if you're Dustin Johnson, if 0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:25.280 you're Rory McElroy, if you're John Rahman, you have that 0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:29.400 massive amount of speed, you can manage that. But if 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:33.320 you don't have and the average golfer doesn't have a 0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:36.720 lot of club hit speed and a lot of ball speed. 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:40.040 So in Marina's case, she would make this big move 0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:42.080 in an effort to try and do the right thing, 0:59:42.680 --> 0:59:46.080 get power, but then with the driver she'd just get 0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:49.960 stuck on the right side, never really get back to 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:53.840 the left. And so one of the things that we've 0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:56.680 done is over the last couple of years is we've 0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.920 just basically stabilized her and said listen, don't try and 1:00:00.080 --> 1:00:04.480 move off the golf ball, stay centered and get left 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:08.680 as early as you possibly can. And one thing it 1:00:08.800 --> 1:00:12.800 has done, Greg, is it help clean up the contact issues. 1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.360 You know, make one little I would make one little recommendation. 1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:19.680 It would be to try and say, push from the 1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:21.400 left as soon as you can, don't have to wait, 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:22.960 shift to the left as soon as you can right. 1:00:23.320 --> 1:00:25.440 So I think that that's so they don't misinterpret that, 1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:27.080 because you can get onto your left and still not 1:00:27.160 --> 1:00:29.400 push from your left right. So then and then I 1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:31.520 always say, listen, there's if I take our whole power. 1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:33.320 We have a whole class on power, and if I 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:35.360 take all the research out there, there's only three ways 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:40.480 at ebol farther right, apply more force, right, apply more speed. 1:00:40.840 --> 1:00:44.640 Power in physics is force time's velocity or strength time speed. 1:00:44.720 --> 1:00:47.480 So I can get more force, more stronger, or I 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:49.440 can get faster. Right now, I can do those in 1:00:49.480 --> 1:00:51.640 the gym. I get stronger and faster like John Ram's 1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:53.880 got it. He's a massive man, right, so he can 1:00:53.880 --> 1:00:57.400 apply a lot of force. So you got either two options. 1:00:57.880 --> 1:01:02.240 Get stronger, apply more force, get faster, apply on more speed. 1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:05.360 Or the third option is apply that force or speed 1:01:05.680 --> 1:01:08.000 for more time. Now, this is an important one, right, 1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:11.960 Like imagine if I put you on a chair with wheels, 1:01:12.040 --> 1:01:13.760 and I put you one foot away from a wall, 1:01:14.160 --> 1:01:16.760 I got behind you and I pushed you into the wall. Okay, 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:19.160 I could hurt you, but I couldn't kill you. If 1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:21.120 we took thirty feet away from the wall, and now 1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:23.360 I had a thirty foot ramp time to run and 1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:25.280 plyw you into the wall, I can do a lot 1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:27.520 more damage because I have more time to apply that 1:01:27.600 --> 1:01:30.080 force and velocity. So there's only three ways in a ball. 1:01:30.120 --> 1:01:34.240 Part of there more force, more velocity, more speed, or 1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:38.000 more time. Like what is John Daly did way back 1:01:38.080 --> 1:01:39.960 in the day. What is done? They take this really 1:01:40.040 --> 1:01:42.479 long backswing so they have more time to apply force. 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:46.200 The taller I am some of the long drive guys 1:01:46.240 --> 1:01:47.760 that can take the club way farther than the ball, 1:01:47.800 --> 1:01:50.360 they have more time. A five foot three female doesn't 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:52.840 have a lot of time too, So it sounded like 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:54.960 she was trying to get more time by going over here, 1:01:55.040 --> 1:01:57.880 but it was costing her force and speed, right. So 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:01.160 it's this, it's this interplay between these things where if 1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:05.520 you take this longer swing, but now you're not applying 1:02:05.560 --> 1:02:07.880 the force because it's too late. Like if you apply 1:02:07.960 --> 1:02:10.280 the force late, that's not a zero force. It can 1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:12.120 all work against each other. So you've got to you've 1:02:12.120 --> 1:02:14.360 got to remember all three are important. And to me, 1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:16.720 like speed, you should just work on getting faster and 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:19.640 anything you do like our guys do sprinting mechanics, they're 1:02:19.680 --> 1:02:21.800 doing medical balls, they're doing jumping things that get just 1:02:21.840 --> 1:02:26.840 to make their nervous system faster. Obviously, force, any type 1:02:26.840 --> 1:02:29.360 of strength training is going to help you. Right, Hitting 1:02:29.360 --> 1:02:31.520 golf balls helps you, but pushing, pulling, all the things 1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:34.240 we've talked about applying force and then mobility is what 1:02:34.360 --> 1:02:36.800 allows you to get the time right. So that's why 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:38.920 all those pieces need to be part of a program. 1:02:40.000 --> 1:02:42.760 And then the other part you talked about the stability 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:44.800 and the mobility. I think it was Dave Philips said 1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:47.440 that you guys did some massive speed games with Cameron 1:02:47.480 --> 1:02:49.479 Chengali when he was playing on the PGA Tour before 1:02:49.520 --> 1:02:51.120 he went to live. I think there was a year 1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:54.600 where he made the biggest junk jump in in driving distance, 1:02:54.680 --> 1:02:57.920 club hit speed and stuff. He said that Cam came out, 1:02:58.040 --> 1:02:59.560 came out to TPI, I was talking to you guys 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:01.480 about all stuff he wanted to try and do to 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:04.200 hit the golf ball further. What are some things that 1:03:04.280 --> 1:03:06.880 he could do in the gym and start and I 1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:09.400 think it was you that said that's not great. Have 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:11.400 you ever just thought about the swinging the club faster, 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:17.360 meaning drive the car faster? And I think a lot 1:03:17.440 --> 1:03:20.560 of times everyone thinks, oh, I don't want my golf 1:03:20.600 --> 1:03:23.760 swing I got quick. I don't want to swing too fast. 1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:26.920 But to hit the golf ball further, you have to 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:29.840 move the tool, which is the golf club. You have 1:03:29.960 --> 1:03:33.360 to move it faster to hit the golf ball further. 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:36.520 And I think a lot of times golfers are afraid 1:03:36.680 --> 1:03:42.360 to make fast, powerful golf swings because they've been told, no, 1:03:42.480 --> 1:03:45.080 it's got to be tempo tempo, tempo tempo. 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:47.480 I've got some great advice for this. I got great advice. 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:50.960 So first of all, Okay, like you said, most of 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:53.360 the best players in the world are not swinging ninety percent, 1:03:53.400 --> 1:03:55.440 they're swinging one hundred and five percent, right, So if 1:03:55.480 --> 1:03:57.160 you're trying to get out there and guide it in, 1:03:57.240 --> 1:03:59.000 you're nervous they're going to blow it by you am 1:03:59.000 --> 1:04:00.680 out right, So how do you get to the point 1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:02.960 where it's moving fast but you're not scared? To me, 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:06.120 and this is the biggest governor or barrier on golfers 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:09.720 is they're scared to practice fast because they think it's 1:04:09.760 --> 1:04:11.680 going to be erratic. So what we do is we 1:04:11.800 --> 1:04:13.480 play a game that we came up with called three 1:04:13.560 --> 1:04:16.840 strikes a baseball game, right, And I'm telling you, Claude, 1:04:16.880 --> 1:04:19.000 this never fails. Right, So what we do is we 1:04:19.440 --> 1:04:21.240 get a launch monitor. It doesn't matter to get a 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:24.120 little prgru to a track man, doesn't matter. That can 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:27.960 measure clubheed speed. Go out, go out to your range 1:04:28.160 --> 1:04:31.040 and just do like, Okay, your life depends on hitting 1:04:31.040 --> 1:04:33.280 the fairway. I call this your cruising Like. I want 1:04:33.360 --> 1:04:35.000 to make sure you hit the fairway. Do two swings 1:04:35.040 --> 1:04:37.560 and record your clubhead speed and your ball speed. Right, 1:04:37.800 --> 1:04:39.560 clubhead speed's more important. I like to look at the 1:04:39.560 --> 1:04:42.040 club at speed. Let's say you're cruising speeds one hundred 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:43.800 miles an hour, right, and you're like that, I know 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:45.480 I can hit the fairway on hundred miles an hour. 1:04:46.520 --> 1:04:48.960 Then say, okay, what I'm about to do I will 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:50.920 never do on the golfers. Okay, I'm going to do 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:53.760 crazy stuff right now, right, and it doesn't matter. I 1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:57.160 just just don't break your driver or use a practice driver, 1:04:58.200 --> 1:05:01.080 but basically try things to make the ball go faster, Like, 1:05:01.200 --> 1:05:03.360 lift your left heel and take the club back farther. 1:05:03.760 --> 1:05:07.000 Swing your arms faster, take a faster tempo back swinging. 1:05:08.040 --> 1:05:10.840 Go ahead and lift your arms up higher. Try and 1:05:11.000 --> 1:05:13.800 make sure you're weight shifting harder. Try everything you can 1:05:13.880 --> 1:05:16.360 think of, where all you're trying to do is move 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:19.120 the club faster. And honestly, heating into a net would 1:05:19.120 --> 1:05:20.600 be more advantage right here, because I don't want you 1:05:20.600 --> 1:05:23.200 to look at the golf ball right you will figure 1:05:23.240 --> 1:05:25.080 out that, you know, when I do this crazy thing, 1:05:25.720 --> 1:05:27.360 my club itates be went from one hundred miles an 1:05:27.360 --> 1:05:28.880 hour to one hundred and ten miles an hour, like 1:05:28.920 --> 1:05:31.080 you'll see canes up to twenty miles an hour right 1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:34.120 now when you do that? Okay, this is the most 1:05:34.160 --> 1:05:37.000 important thing. Experiment, trial kind of stuff. And even if 1:05:37.000 --> 1:05:38.640 you're like, there's no way I can play like this, 1:05:38.720 --> 1:05:40.479 you're never gonna play like this, that's not the point. 1:05:40.560 --> 1:05:42.440 I just want to know, could you move the club faster? 1:05:43.120 --> 1:05:45.400 Once you figure out what moves the club faster, let's 1:05:45.440 --> 1:05:49.040 say it's lifting your lead heel in the back swing. Okay, 1:05:49.920 --> 1:05:52.240 then you're gonna play three strikes? Okay, three strikes? Is 1:05:52.240 --> 1:05:54.240 you tee? Up a ball and you say, okay, first 1:05:54.240 --> 1:05:56.600 of all, I'm gonna swing with this crazy swing as 1:05:56.640 --> 1:05:58.200 hard as I can, and I just want to see 1:05:58.240 --> 1:06:00.480 what my clubatespeed gets up to. Let's say you do 1:06:00.520 --> 1:06:01.920 this crazy swing and you swing as hard as you 1:06:01.960 --> 1:06:04.080 can and your first swing is one hundred and eight 1:06:04.160 --> 1:06:06.240 miles an hour. Okay, so let's say it's one o eight. 1:06:06.720 --> 1:06:08.280 I want you to write down you say, first swing 1:06:08.320 --> 1:06:10.600 is one hundred and eight. Now you get to tee 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:13.720 up another ball. If this next swing is one hundred 1:06:13.720 --> 1:06:16.400 and eight or faster, you get to keep going. If 1:06:16.400 --> 1:06:18.480 it's below that, it's a strike, right, And if it 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:21.080 goes up, your new floor is that number, right, So 1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:22.880 you can't go blow that. So let's say your first 1:06:22.920 --> 1:06:25.320 ball is one towight. Let's say your next ball is 1:06:25.360 --> 1:06:27.840 one oh nine. Let's say your next ball is one ten. 1:06:27.880 --> 1:06:30.959 So you hit three balls, you're at one ten. Let's 1:06:30.960 --> 1:06:33.000 say your fourth ball is one o eight. That's a 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.120 strike because it just went down one at ten. So 1:06:35.200 --> 1:06:37.520 when you get a strike right down, you can say, okay, 1:06:37.680 --> 1:06:41.160 strike one. Take sixty seconds. Just chill out, relax. You 1:06:41.200 --> 1:06:43.040 can hit a couple weds if you want, but just 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:45.880 let your nervous system relax. It's only strike one. You 1:06:45.920 --> 1:06:47.560 get three strikes. Get up there, te up to your 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:50.160 fifth ball. Now again your floor is at one ten. 1:06:50.280 --> 1:06:52.080 Now you just got to strike one eight. Your next 1:06:52.120 --> 1:06:53.840 ball better be one ten or higher. You're gonna get 1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:56.600 your second strike. Let's say your fifth balls one ten, 1:06:56.880 --> 1:06:59.320 that's tie. You keep going six ball. Let's say is 1:06:59.320 --> 1:07:01.840 one o nine, that's strike two. And let's say you're 1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:04.000 seventh balls is one oh eight, strike three. You're done. 1:07:04.240 --> 1:07:06.800 So you basically did nine balls and you were done. Right. 1:07:08.160 --> 1:07:10.600 What I do after this? That's a speed training session, right, 1:07:10.720 --> 1:07:12.440 And it's crazy. You're never gonna play golf like this. 1:07:12.640 --> 1:07:14.000 But then all you all want I want you to 1:07:14.080 --> 1:07:15.919 do is and this is what I tell myself. Okay, 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:18.120 it's now life depends on it. I got to go 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:20.160 to the ferry. Let's go back to a cruising speed. Now. 1:07:20.200 --> 1:07:22.120 Remember when you started, your cruising speed was one hundred 1:07:22.120 --> 1:07:23.960 miles an hour. So now you get you t up 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:25.840 two balls. Hit the first one just trying to cruise 1:07:25.920 --> 1:07:28.040 sometimes just your brain slowing down is a little weird. 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:30.439 The second one, usually you're back to your normal swing. 1:07:30.960 --> 1:07:33.600 I want you to look at the launch monitor. Normally 1:07:33.720 --> 1:07:36.760 your cruising speed now is one o two where before 1:07:36.800 --> 1:07:38.600 it was one hundred, and it feels like you're going 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:41.320 slow motion. And this is the keys. I'm not changing 1:07:41.400 --> 1:07:43.919 your golf swing. I'm changing how fast your golf swing 1:07:44.080 --> 1:07:46.920 goes right. And what happens is your brain starts to 1:07:47.000 --> 1:07:49.440 go you know, I can swing one o two under control, 1:07:49.680 --> 1:07:52.360 and then as you do this speed over time, you're like, oh, 1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:54.280 I can't do one oh six over control. And in 1:07:54.360 --> 1:07:56.200 a year you've gone from a one hundred mine hour 1:07:56.240 --> 1:07:57.600 club it's maybe to one hundred and six, and it 1:07:57.640 --> 1:08:00.640 feels like you haven't changed anything. That's how you had speed. 1:08:02.000 --> 1:08:04.280 Yeah, And one of the things Miko Derrisco I've had 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:08.520 in the pod who I met through Dave Phillips. He 1:08:08.600 --> 1:08:10.440 works with John Rahm and stuff like that. But one 1:08:10.480 --> 1:08:12.640 of the drills that he does with our juniors is 1:08:12.920 --> 1:08:16.360 he has them hit five fairway finders balls where they're 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:18.439 going to hit it and play, and then he has 1:08:18.560 --> 1:08:22.639 them hit five flat out as fast and as hard 1:08:22.680 --> 1:08:26.760 as they can. We sometimes find that the flat out 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:29.519 fast as they can, they hit more fairways doing that 1:08:30.280 --> 1:08:33.160 then they do when they're trying to steer and just 1:08:33.320 --> 1:08:35.840 get it and play and just not miss it and 1:08:36.320 --> 1:08:37.559 not hit a bad shot. 1:08:37.840 --> 1:08:40.400 For some reason, people make the golf swing non athletic. 1:08:40.600 --> 1:08:42.040 Right when we say the swing as hard as you can, 1:08:42.160 --> 1:08:43.880 actually the athlete comes out and a lot of times 1:08:43.920 --> 1:08:46.000 the athlete is way more accurate than the non athlete. 1:08:46.720 --> 1:08:47.280 Believe it or not. 1:08:49.520 --> 1:08:52.640 Listen, we could talk for hours. If people want to 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:54.479 find out more about what you guys do at the 1:08:54.520 --> 1:08:57.240 Titleist Performance Institute, first of all, tell them where they 1:08:57.240 --> 1:09:00.400 can find it, but give the the elevator pitch on 1:09:00.560 --> 1:09:02.040 what TPI. 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:05.640 Is real simple so we actually are part of the 1:09:05.760 --> 1:09:10.000 titlest brand. If you go to the my TPI my 1:09:10.160 --> 1:09:13.559 Titles Performance in suit so MYTPI dot com you can 1:09:13.640 --> 1:09:17.200 learn all about TPI. We basically take care of all 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:20.679 titles players worldwide from their any any aspects of the performance. 1:09:20.760 --> 1:09:24.719 But we also certify golf coaches, medical professionals, and fitness 1:09:24.760 --> 1:09:27.200 professionals on how to do what we do. 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But my TPI dot 1:09:52.000 --> 1:09:54.400 com you can learn about everything, and for. 1:09:54.479 --> 1:09:58.839 Everyone listening is if you have any sort of swing falls, 1:09:59.200 --> 1:10:01.479 anything that you do, come over the top, hit it thin, 1:10:01.960 --> 1:10:04.840 hit it fat, all of the things that we've talked about. 1:10:05.479 --> 1:10:09.599 You can go on MYTPI dot com and basically type in, okay, 1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:13.479 I come over the top, I've got limited whatever the 1:10:13.840 --> 1:10:18.280 issues are, and the AI can give you an entire 1:10:19.080 --> 1:10:20.160 workout formula. 1:10:20.880 --> 1:10:23.679 Yeah. On our website it'll say improve my game. Click 1:10:23.680 --> 1:10:26.120 on improve my gream and then it can have it'll have. 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:29.160 There's a drill and exercise library where you can type 1:10:29.200 --> 1:10:30.800 in like hip mobility and I'll give you a ton 1:10:30.840 --> 1:10:33.679 of stuff. There's a place that says swing characteristics where 1:10:33.760 --> 1:10:35.720 like you'll look and says over the top. Click on 1:10:35.760 --> 1:10:37.519 over the top. We'll talk about some of the most 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:39.519 common causes of these some of the physical things and 1:10:39.560 --> 1:10:42.160 at the bottom you'll see drills and stuff that usually 1:10:42.200 --> 1:10:44.760 help most of the people with the I. 1:10:44.760 --> 1:10:47.639 Can't I can't thank you enough for coming on. I've 1:10:47.680 --> 1:10:50.040 been wanting to do it for a while. But I 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:53.400 think the work that you and Dave and everybody on 1:10:53.479 --> 1:10:56.360 your team out at the Titleist Performance Institute, like I said, 1:10:57.600 --> 1:11:00.320 it has been a life changer for me. And you know, 1:11:00.400 --> 1:11:02.920 I'm so lucky to not only be able to have 1:11:03.120 --> 1:11:06.040 you and Dave as mentors but also as friends. And 1:11:07.720 --> 1:11:11.519 there isn't anything physically that happens with my body or 1:11:11.760 --> 1:11:14.880 if we have players but that have physical issues. I mean, 1:11:15.280 --> 1:11:18.160 I'm sure you're like Jesus Chris another message from Claude, 1:11:18.320 --> 1:11:23.680 where it's always okay, what's this player doing? Or I 1:11:23.800 --> 1:11:26.519 messaged you the other day on I've messaged you twice 1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:29.920 this year. When my back went out in Saudi Arabia 1:11:29.920 --> 1:11:31.920 and I got an MRI, you were the first person 1:11:32.479 --> 1:11:34.880 I messaged and called. And you know, I went to 1:11:34.880 --> 1:11:36.599 see a doctor from my shoulder the other day. As 1:11:36.640 --> 1:11:38.320 soon as I got out. You were the first person 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:41.160 I called, and you said, yeah, let me design a 1:11:41.280 --> 1:11:44.240 program for you for your shoulder to where we'll do 1:11:44.400 --> 1:11:47.800 some rehab drills. And within two minutes you sent me 1:11:47.880 --> 1:11:50.680 an email. I went on the TPI app and it 1:11:50.800 --> 1:11:54.360 was fifteen exercises that take about fifteen minutes. And I've 1:11:54.360 --> 1:11:58.719 been doing every day. The shoulder feels better. You mentioned 1:11:59.320 --> 1:12:02.840 the World Golf Fitness Summit in Orlando in October. The 1:12:02.960 --> 1:12:05.240 greatest minds in the game are meeting there. The fact 1:12:05.240 --> 1:12:08.320 that you have me speaking would would would mean that 1:12:08.439 --> 1:12:11.080 that's all bullshit, But uh, I'm excited to speak, and 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:13.839 and and I can really. 1:12:14.439 --> 1:12:17.240 Dave and I have the utmost respect for you. Uh 1:12:17.479 --> 1:12:20.160 and and uh we we we see the work that 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:22.840 you do with your players, and that's that's the ultimate test. 1:12:22.960 --> 1:12:25.560 And uh, you know, I don't think anybody gets the 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:28.479 job done better than you do. So we appreciate you, buddy. 1:12:29.080 --> 1:12:31.160 We'll have you on next time, and we'll get you 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:33.320 to tell the story about my dad with the medicine 1:12:33.360 --> 1:12:36.120 ball throw. Uh when hose he go ahead and tell 1:12:36.120 --> 1:12:37.840 it now quickly. It's a great one. 1:12:38.600 --> 1:12:41.479 Okay. So uh, first time I was ever invited out 1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:44.200 the titleist me and Dave the CEO while you line 1:12:44.200 --> 1:12:46.360 invites intes us to come out and test some of 1:12:46.360 --> 1:12:47.519 the best players in the world, and he's like, I 1:12:47.520 --> 1:12:49.040 got a couple players want you to test. We didn't 1:12:49.040 --> 1:12:50.960 realize it was the world match. And we get there 1:12:51.000 --> 1:12:53.040 and like, the first guy there is Phil Mickelson, and 1:12:53.080 --> 1:12:55.280 then it Turnie Els and it's VJ and you had 1:12:55.280 --> 1:12:56.920 all the best in the world there and then all 1:12:56.920 --> 1:12:59.960 of a sudden, uh this this jose Ap and Marie 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:02.280 all the top with with your dad walk in right 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:03.840 and Butch's just like, what are you guys doing. We're like, 1:13:03.880 --> 1:13:06.560 we're testing, doing this new three D stuff, and he's like, 1:13:06.600 --> 1:13:10.080 well test those days. So I and we kept testing everybody. 1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:12.240 Everybody was so great, and the CEO is like, all 1:13:12.320 --> 1:13:14.400 you're you're testing is the same. I'm like, well, look 1:13:14.400 --> 1:13:15.920 who you're giving us the best player in the world. 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:18.040 These are all great players, but they'll be bad and 1:13:18.160 --> 1:13:20.320 they and I'm like he's thinking what we're doing is 1:13:20.400 --> 1:13:22.639 horrible because everybody'shown up the same. And we get jose 1:13:22.840 --> 1:13:25.559 on the three D and it's bad, like there's something wrong, 1:13:26.080 --> 1:13:28.280 and I'm like, at first I was like, finally there's 1:13:28.320 --> 1:13:29.920 somebody different. But I'm like, how do I tell it? 1:13:30.040 --> 1:13:32.080 You know, a two time Master's champion, there's something wrong. 1:13:32.120 --> 1:13:34.439 And I and Butcher, your dad's like, what's going on? 1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:36.840 And I go, well, there's something wrong with the lower body. 1:13:36.880 --> 1:13:38.840 He's like, what do you mean? And I go, I 1:13:39.080 --> 1:13:40.439 don't want to say that. I go, but like his 1:13:40.600 --> 1:13:42.479 lower body is like dead. He's like, no, no, there's 1:13:42.520 --> 1:13:43.920 a problem in his swing. Right now, we're trying to 1:13:43.920 --> 1:13:45.599 figure out what's going on. And I'm like, oh, it's 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:47.320 like okay, I go, well, there's something wrong with his 1:13:47.360 --> 1:13:50.599 lower it's not producing power. And I think they thought 1:13:50.600 --> 1:13:52.320 he had like a foot problem or something at that time, 1:13:52.400 --> 1:13:54.000 Like I don't think they realized it was a lower back. 1:13:54.080 --> 1:13:56.280 But and I and I go, you know, I probably 1:13:56.280 --> 1:13:58.439 should test him physically real quick because we're just doing swing. 1:13:59.000 --> 1:14:00.360 So we do a quick screen. It's like, you know, 1:14:00.400 --> 1:14:01.720 I need to do a couple of power tests, and 1:14:02.080 --> 1:14:03.680 our power tests, we do a jump, we do some 1:14:03.800 --> 1:14:05.639 medicine ball stuff, and we got to the medicine ball 1:14:05.680 --> 1:14:08.000 stuff and Jose threw a medicine ball to the point 1:14:08.040 --> 1:14:10.519 where I was like, like, he threw like thirteen feet 1:14:10.560 --> 1:14:13.960 in almost like twenty two right, And I'm like, all right, stop, 1:14:14.080 --> 1:14:16.479 like time out, there's something wrong. And your Dad's like, well, 1:14:16.600 --> 1:14:19.120 what's going on. I'm like that, that's like, that's like 1:14:19.320 --> 1:14:21.400 I should see that with like a thirteen year old, 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:23.720 like there's something wrong. And he's like, oh, come on, 1:14:23.840 --> 1:14:24.960 you can do it harder. And I'm like, no, no, 1:14:25.080 --> 1:14:27.200 you understand, like I think he might be heard, and 1:14:27.840 --> 1:14:29.280 I was like, no, no, we're done. So I go 1:14:29.400 --> 1:14:32.400 and I put my hand out to bring Jose up 1:14:32.840 --> 1:14:35.240 off the ground. I'm not paying attention to your dad, 1:14:35.280 --> 1:14:37.080 and your dad was like, oh, let me, I could 1:14:37.080 --> 1:14:39.120 throw this ball farder Dad. He grabs some medicine ball 1:14:39.280 --> 1:14:41.639 and he lays down and he just proceeds to sit 1:14:41.760 --> 1:14:43.920 up and throw the ball. But Jose was throwing the 1:14:43.960 --> 1:14:46.720 ball to me right your dad decided to throw the 1:14:46.760 --> 1:14:48.720 medical ball against a wall. But what did realize That 1:14:48.800 --> 1:14:51.400 wall was drywall right and behind that wall was the 1:14:51.560 --> 1:14:55.040 director of the facility for taitleists right there. That ball 1:14:55.160 --> 1:14:57.160 hits the wall and goes through the drywall like it's 1:14:57.200 --> 1:14:59.680 nothing at all here. It's a scream and crash, and 1:14:59.720 --> 1:15:01.759 I'm like like, oh my god, I'm never getting invited 1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:04.320 back here again. The director walks in like screaming, what 1:15:04.400 --> 1:15:06.720 the hell is going on? And I look at your 1:15:06.800 --> 1:15:09.479 dad and he's down the ground, and I swear your 1:15:09.520 --> 1:15:11.120 dad was like, who gives a I can throw a 1:15:11.160 --> 1:15:14.280 part of the throw that ball back like I was like. 1:15:14.560 --> 1:15:16.599 I was like, I'm never getting invited back here again. 1:15:16.680 --> 1:15:21.880 But the greatest that is the epitome of my father. 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:24.360 I mean, you could just see him, Well, I'll tell 1:15:24.400 --> 1:15:25.719 you what I could do that and then he throws 1:15:25.760 --> 1:15:27.719 it through the wall and he's like, well, it shouldn't 1:15:27.720 --> 1:15:29.639 make the wall stronger. It's not my fault. 1:15:30.840 --> 1:15:33.400 He's the best. I loved it great. 1:15:33.240 --> 1:15:35.320 Talking to you, Greg, look forward to seeing you in 1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:38.200 October at the TPR World El Fitness on the top 1:15:38.200 --> 1:15:40.880 of it. So that was doctor Greg Rose from the 1:15:40.920 --> 1:15:44.680 Titleist Performance Institute, And like I said, he's one of 1:15:44.720 --> 1:15:46.559 the smartest people I've ever met. If I have any 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:50.360 issues with my body, if I have any issues with players, 1:15:50.680 --> 1:15:54.360 He's someone whose brain I pick on a regular basis. 1:15:54.479 --> 1:15:57.519 He's a good friend and he has been an incredible 1:15:57.600 --> 1:16:00.320 mentor to me, and I certainly wouldn't be where I 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:03.680 am in my career if it wasn't for meeting Dave 1:16:03.720 --> 1:16:06.280 Phillips and Greg Rose, because I think the work that 1:16:06.360 --> 1:16:10.639 they do is second to none in the golf space. 1:16:11.200 --> 1:16:14.080 Can't thank everybody enough for listening. It's summertime. I think 1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:17.439 everybody's going to be getting back out onto the golf course. 1:16:17.920 --> 1:16:19.639 We're going to try and get as many good guests 1:16:19.880 --> 1:16:22.559 as possible. Hit me up on social you know who 1:16:22.600 --> 1:16:25.639 you guys want to hear from. You can rate, review, 1:16:25.760 --> 1:16:29.840 subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, some of which comes 1:16:29.880 --> 1:16:32.760 to you almost every Wednesday, but it definitely comes to 1:16:32.800 --> 1:16:35.720 you almost every week. We will see you next week.