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Speaker 1: This week's guest someone we've been wanting to have on

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Speaker 1: Dave Phillips are the co founders of the Titleist Performance

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Speaker 1: of golf development. We've had Dave on the pod numerous times,

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Speaker 1: but Gregor Rose is someone that I can't think of

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Speaker 1: anybody really other than my father. He and Dave. I've

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Speaker 1: Because Greg and Dave out at TPI, they are at

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Speaker 1: This is easily one of my favorites that I've done

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I really appreciate that Cloud. It

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Speaker 2: appreciate you having me on here. Golfitness, that's great, that's

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Speaker 2: a great question. So to me, it's basically preparing your

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Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, Greg never think of their body

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Speaker 2: trunk right, Well, if it's hard for you to turn

429
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Speaker 2: your mobile joints, your stable joint, like your neck is

430
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Speaker 2: probably taking the hit, right, it's probably the smoke. So

431
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: don't beat up the smoke. Go put out the fire.

432
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 2: Go after your thraastic spine, go above and below the area,

433
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Speaker 2: like you said, where there's pain, and attack those first

434
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: and see if that settles. The puts the fire out

435
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: and you know, it's a beautiful world today with like,

436
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: if you need exercises, it's just like if you need

437
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: golf drills, you go on YouTube and find a million

438
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: of them. The question is which one do you use? Right?

439
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: And to me the simplistic way, like what should I

440
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: do before I play? Well, if you know that, hey,

441
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 2: my shoulder's tight or my left hip is tight, you

442
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 2: should probably do a couple of things to warm that

443
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 2: up so that your brain can try and use it

444
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 2: when you play. Because if you don't, guess what, your

445
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 2: brain's going to figure out a way to get it

446
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: done without your hip and you're gonna use your knee

447
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 2: or your lower back, and when you're done playing golf,

448
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna go, damn, my bag's killing me. Obviously, we

449
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: would think you should go find somebody who can do

450
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Speaker 2: a TPI screen on you, right and you can find

451
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Speaker 2: somebody anywhere in the world right now, with probably within

452
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Speaker 2: a twenty minute drive. They can do a physical screen

453
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Speaker 2: on you. And in five minutes, we can build you

454
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Speaker 2: a workout program on our app that it can be

455
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Speaker 2: five minutes, it could be sixty minutes, whatever you want,

456
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Speaker 2: and it and really take a lot of the guessing

457
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Speaker 2: out out of her. Like I'm sure you guys screen

458
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Speaker 2: every player that walks in. First thing you do, and.

459
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Speaker 1: The screen that you're talking about, I think you guys

460
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: at TPI, you and Dave were the first ones to

461
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Speaker 1: kind of systemize a way to say, Okay, these are

462
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Speaker 1: what we know the body needs to do to swing

463
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Speaker 1: a golf club, right, these are the things that we

464
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Speaker 1: know that your body is going to be asked to do.

465
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Speaker 1: These are the things.

466
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Speaker 2: Story, this is not how we did it. Let me

467
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Speaker 2: tell you how we did it. Okay, how we came

468
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Speaker 2: with the screen. So the screen what we did is

469
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Speaker 2: because glaud you know this. If I sat down and

470
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Speaker 2: I said, let's sake, I took the ten top golf

471
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Speaker 2: coaches in the world and I sat down, I said,

472
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Speaker 2: let's all agree on how you swing a golf club,

473
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Speaker 2: how's that going to go? It'd be World War five? Right.

474
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Speaker 2: So we always say, listen, there's a million ways of swing,

475
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Speaker 2: but we said, can we all agree on these are

476
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Speaker 2: things you shouldn't do? Which is really interesting. If you

477
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Speaker 2: sat down the top ten golf coaches and said, hey,

478
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Speaker 2: should you swing over the top all of them will

479
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Speaker 2: probably say probably not right, you know. So we went

480
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Speaker 2: through and this took a while to try and identify

481
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Speaker 2: we called the big fifteen. Now, the fifteen most common

482
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Speaker 2: let's say, biomechanical compensations or swing characteristics that most coaches

483
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Speaker 2: would say, you probably shouldn't do that, it's going to

484
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Speaker 2: make you worse. Right. So once we identified these characteristics,

485
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Speaker 2: like like over the top, then we said, okay, what's

486
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Speaker 2: physically required to not come over the top. So basically

487
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Speaker 2: we went through and we tried to identify all the

488
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Speaker 2: physical things that you had to do so that you

489
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Speaker 2: couldn't do these fifteen bad things. Once we identified those

490
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Speaker 2: physical things, we said, how can we quickly screen to

491
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Speaker 2: see if you have those? And that's how the screen

492
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Speaker 2: was born.

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Speaker 1: So talk me through what the fifteen are, because I

494
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Speaker 1: think all of the terms that you're going to throw out,

495
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Speaker 1: some of them will be maybe new terms, but I

496
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Speaker 1: think a lot of these are going to be terms

497
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Speaker 1: that golfers are used to hearing, regardless of their handicap level.

498
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Speaker 1: But because I think it really is on yeah, the

499
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Speaker 1: big issues that we are going to look at.

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Speaker 2: Here's the big ones. Okay, So sway right, So in

501
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: the backswing, if you move excessively too far away from

502
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Speaker 2: the target right uh, so you get your center of

503
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 2: weight outside you're Let's say, if you're a right handed player,

504
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Speaker 2: you sway to the right too far. Now, lattle motion

505
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 2: is a very important part of the golf swing, but

506
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Speaker 2: a lot of times if you sway too much, a

507
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: lot of times you've added a new timing component and

508
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: it can create problems. So if you look at the

509
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: best players in the world, there's not a lot of

510
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: excessive movement away from the target during the backswing. And

511
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Speaker 2: then the opposite of that is slide on the downswing

512
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Speaker 2: if you just keep going left versus pushing from the

513
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Speaker 2: ground properly and creating rotation, So sway and slide. Now,

514
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: with that sane sway and slide, you can do something

515
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Speaker 2: called hanging back. If you sway and you stay on

516
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 2: your right side and you just twist, that can create

517
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: all kinds of problems without the weight ship. And then

518
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 2: add one more we have something called reverse pivot, which

519
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 2: is in the backswing, most players their trail leg and

520
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 2: then they moved to the lead leg. But some players

521
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 2: moved to their lead leg in the backswing and they

522
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 2: moved to their trail leg in the downswing. So a

523
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Speaker 2: lot of these are weight ship problems. Then we have

524
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Speaker 2: one of the biggest problems, especially with professional golfers, something

525
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Speaker 2: called early extension.

526
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Speaker 1: And explain what that is, because that's a term that

527
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Speaker 1: I say a lot. I think it's starting to get

528
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Speaker 1: in kind of professional golf. We talk about it on

529
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Speaker 1: TV a lot. But I think it's probably the thing

530
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Speaker 1: GREG on a daily basis giving regular golfers golf lessons.

531
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Speaker 1: It's the number one thing that I see all the time.

532
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Speaker 1: And it's also probably the thing that I see people

533
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: have no concept of as a concept either they don't

534
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: they don't know their lower body is supposed to work

535
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Speaker 1: the way it is. So that early extension, that rust

536
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Speaker 1: What is that?

537
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll tell you. So, first of all, I

538
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: came up with that word early extension is probably that's

539
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Speaker 2: more of a meta word, so it probably wasn't the

540
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: greatest of golf terminology. I do. There was a there's

541
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Speaker 2: a great golf professional by the name of Wayne De Francisco.

542
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know Wayne, but I used

543
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Speaker 2: to work with Wayne way back in the mid nineties

544
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: and he was working on my golf swing and he's like,

545
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Speaker 2: why do you keep thrusting? You keep thrusting, and he

546
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: showed me this, and I was like, man, and I

547
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: started seeing this with all a lot of my players.

548
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think a lot of people do this.

549
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: And I was what I was saying. I was like,

550
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Speaker 2: you're supposed to stay flexed from your hips a little

551
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: bit longer, but I kept early extending out of my hips.

552
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: In other words, if you look from down the line

553
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: the down to the target line, and you put a

554
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 2: line behind my butt in the downswing or in the backswing,

555
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: my lower body started to move towards the golf ball. Right.

556
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: Now there's the space between your belt buckle and the

557
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: golf ball. Right when you set up to a ball,

558
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: there's a certain distance you get it from the ball.

559
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 2: I always say that space in front of you is

560
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: for your hands in the club. If your lower body

561
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: invades that space and your lower body moves towards the

562
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 2: golf ball, first of all, it'll force you to stand

563
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: up taller as your lower body moves close to the ball.

564
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Speaker 2: But now there's no space for your hands in the

565
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: club to go. So you have to figure out how

566
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: to get this job done, and you're either going to

567
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 2: try and flip the club and create this hook that happens,

568
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: or you're gonna get stuck. Your arms are gonna get

569
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: stuck behind, You're gonna leave the face open and it

570
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: creates the block. Now, the problem with the early extension

571
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Speaker 2: is it creates both misses. You have the block to

572
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Speaker 2: the right and the hook to the left, and as

573
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Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of hard to play golf when

574
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: you have both misses. You're not sure which way it's

575
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Speaker 2: going right. So this early extension to me, I was like,

576
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Speaker 2: why are people moving towards the ball instead of rotating?

577
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: You know, this is a rotational sport. I'm like, why

578
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: am I doing this? And it's just such an easy

579
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: compensation strategy to stand up if you can't rotate, it

580
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: just makes sense. It's almost like you're chopping wood. You're

581
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: up and down, up and down versus twisting. And as

582
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's lots of reasons why people

583
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: don't twist, and early said, if you have any rotation

584
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Speaker 2: problems or if you don't know how to use the

585
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: ground properly, early extensions is probably in your future. And

586
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: then make it even worse you go get club fit,

587
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: and the club fitter says, oh, it looks like your

588
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: toes hitting the ground, so we're gonna bend your club's

589
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: a little upright to get at your the bottom of

590
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: the contact better. And maybe because your handles standing up

591
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: because you're standing up, maybe the club needs to be longer.

592
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden you get fit to a

593
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: club that only works if you early extend, and we

594
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: have players. If you're if you're long and upright, you

595
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: better look is your butt moving towards the ball, because

596
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: if you aren't, you've been fit into a problem. Right,

597
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: So early sent is definitely one of the most common

598
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: one of the things.

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Speaker 1: After learning about early extension, Ryan Carsler, who you know,

600
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: we used to come out and see you guys all

601
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: the time. Ryan came up with the anti early extension club.

602
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: So he took a seven iron, made it two inches short,

603
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: made it really really flat. If you early extend, meaning

604
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: if you stand up, your hips go closer to the

605
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: golf ball and that upper body goes back. If you

606
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: do that with the golf club, this is two inches.

607
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's where Ryan saw it. He

608
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: saw you guys do it with Padra, that's the introducing pain.

609
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: Like you said, you know, if you want to change

610
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: a motor pattern, introduce pain early extent with that club.

611
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: It's pain. The ball goes everywhere, right, so it's trying

612
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: to figure out how to how to not do that

613
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: can be very motivational.

614
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: Also, that the way that lower body works in the

615
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: downswing to where the lower body, the pelvis kind of

616
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: everything kind of below your belt buckle when on the

617
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: downswing that gets closer to the ball. You told me

618
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Speaker 1: also once about how your upper body and your lower

619
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Speaker 1: body work. Whichever direction your lower body goes, your upper

620
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: body is going to go in the opposite direction, mainly

621
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Speaker 1: just to keep you from falling over to fine balance.

622
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Speaker 1: So think about how many people that are listening right

623
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: now to where their number, their one and two misses

624
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: are with their irons. They either hit the golf ball

625
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: thin or they hit the golf ball heavy. And how

626
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: many players have you seen over the years, Greg that say,

627
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: really after about my nine iron, I never take a

628
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: dibbot with any of my irons, right, And if I

629
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: do take a dibbot, it's behind the golf ball. I

630
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: hit the golf ball fat. Whenever I see that, I

631
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: immediately go to, okay, what is their lower body? That's

632
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: the first place I go when I see a player

633
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: greg struggling with contact, I immediately want to know, is

634
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: okay are they early extending on the on the on

635
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: the on the downscreen. But the other thing, and you

636
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: could talk about this better than I could. There are

637
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: a lot of players on the backswing that are early extending.

638
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: And we see that when on the backswing the weight

639
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: if you're right handed golfer, on your back swing, when

640
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: the weight massively goes to your toes on the on

641
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: on the backswing, especially on your right toe.

642
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: So on the.

643
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: Backswing, that weight it's way over on the right toe,

644
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: the pelvis, the lower body is sometimes getting closer to

645
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: the golf ball on the backswing, and it's very hard

646
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: for then the lower body to get away from the

647
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: golf ball on the downswing.

648
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Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to make it like obvious, but

649
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Speaker 2: I always say, like, okay, let's say you're I know,

650
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: you have your facilion Dubai. Let's say you're on a

651
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: skyscraper there and you're at the top, you're at the

652
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: top floor, and you're like, hey, the buildings swaying too much.

653
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: It's moving too much. Right, Are you going to work

654
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: on the top floor? Are you going to go look

655
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: at the foundation? Right? You know, it's like if the

656
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: club is doing things and it's moving in different ways

657
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: up here, Bone's like, oh, it's just got to fix

658
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: their hands. I'm like, look at the foundation, it's moving

659
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: all over the place, right, Like. It's kind of hard.

660
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: It has to compensate based on what's happening with the

661
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: lawer body. If your lower body moves too far to

662
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: the left, your upbody's going to side, then too far

663
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: to the right. All these things are there to keep

664
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: you upright, to keep you balanced right. That's why is

665
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 2: the building swinging. It's trying to compensate, trying to balance

666
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: itself out right. So you know, early extension, like you said,

667
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: can happen in the backswing, especially if you have to

668
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: think about it. If it's hard for you to turn

669
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: your spine to the right and it's hard for you

670
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: to rotate into your right hip, it'll probably happen in

671
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: the back swinging. If it's hard for you to rotate

672
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: to the left or on your left tip, it's probably

673
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: gonna hurt in the early extent. In the dan swing,

674
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: and then we have people we call unstable early extenders.

675
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: They early extend the backswing and then they add more

676
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: in the dance wing right, and they want to know, like, hey,

677
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: how can I shake the ball every once in a while,

678
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: Like you're two inches to five inches closer to the

679
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 2: golf ball than you were it set up. I go,

680
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: the fact that you actually hit the hozzle was a miracle. Right,

681
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: you're moving so close right.

682
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: So chicken winging. I think that's another thing. When you

683
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: give golf lessons to everyday golfers, like like I do

684
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: and like you do. You see that kind of right

685
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: elbow if they're a right handed golfer, that left elbow

686
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: kind of getting in that chicken wing. From that down

687
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: the line, you'll see that elbow. What are some of

688
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: the issues if you have that kind of chicken wing

689
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: over the top move that an enormous amount of people

690
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: doc living listening to this podcast are going to have, right,

691
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: they are going to have that kind of over the

692
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: top move and then that pull across to where that

693
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: left elbow if you're a left hand, right handed golfer

694
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: gets into that chicken wing, what are some of the

695
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: things to look at and some of the ways to

696
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Speaker 1: address that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, first of all, chicken winging anytime on the downswing,

698
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: if your lead shoulder is internally rotating versus externally rotating,

699
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: creates called chicken wing, and the backswing we call it

700
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: flying elbow, like if you're instead of rotating, if you're

701
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 2: like a Fred Couples has like our John Daley as

702
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: a frying elbow, where the tiger woods would have more

703
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: of an externally rotated So this can happen the backswing

704
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: you're downswing. The captain obvious thing here is, of course,

705
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: if your shoulders don't have mobility or your forms can't rotate,

706
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: it can create these things. But that is not the

707
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 2: most common cause of chicken winging or flying elbow. Chicken winging,

708
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Speaker 2: like you said, a lot of times, is a result

709
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Speaker 2: of trying to hit the ball straight from over the top.

710
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: So in other words, over the top is when you

711
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: get steep right. So usually it's your upper body starts

712
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 2: the downswing versus your lower body. When your upper body

713
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 2: starts the downswing, typically we start to twist too early.

714
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: When your lower body starts to downswing. Usually your upper

715
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: body drops in the club will shallow early, and then

716
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: as you rotate, it'll go steep late. If you go

717
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: steep early, you come over the top. Right now, your

718
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: whole thought is how do I shallow late? Right? When

719
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: you try and shallow late, there's a couple of ways

720
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: to shallow or to prevent the club face from closing.

721
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Speaker 2: One of the best ways to prevent the club face

722
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: from closing is the chicken wing It almost like there

723
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: are some great players that actually chicken wing or Calvin

724
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Speaker 2: p Yeah, I mean and think about like Lee Westwood

725
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: or even Jordan Speed Like, some of these guys will

726
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: do this to try and prevent the club face from rotating.

727
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: There's there's some guys that try and do it to

728
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 2: keep the face as square as possible. So if you

729
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: are steep in any way over the top, one of

730
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: the best strategies to prevent the club from going the

731
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: ball from going left is the chicken winging right. So

732
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: I would say, you know, hey, let's play that game.

733
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: Why again? Right? So why are you chicken winging? Oh?

734
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: It's because I'm over the top? Okay, why are you

735
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: over the top? Right? Most people are over the top

736
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: because their lowervite is not working. Properly. Why is lower

737
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 2: by not working properly? Like we keep playing this game

738
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: like because if you can't disassociate, start with your lower

739
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: body over the top is in your future, which then

740
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: leads to casting, chicken winging, scooping, all the other characteristics

741
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: that we talked about.

742
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Speaker 1: Warm ups, Greg, you know, if you go to a

743
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Speaker 1: football game, a basketball game, a baseball game, any competitive

744
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: team sport, you're probably gonna want to get there for

745
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: the warm up. Watch them war up the warm up

746
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: for some of these. For basketball, like the NBA right now,

747
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs are going on. I mean they're there probably

748
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: four hours before the game. They're doing a warm up

749
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: on the court, probably two hours they're getting worked on.

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Speaker 1: Golfers now, I mean you know this because you work

751
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: with some of the best players in the world. They

752
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: all basically have everybody. Would you say, is there anybody

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Speaker 1: inside the top fifty in the world currently, Greg, that

754
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: doesn't have a physical team around them.

755
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Speaker 2: It's very rare. I think no, not in the top fifty.

756
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know who you arrive. I mean,

757
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: you got to think about it. You can't give other

758
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: players any advantage, right, So I'm like it doesn't matter

759
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: what it is. But if you are I like, if

760
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: you take the best players in the world, their whole

761
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: goal is to number one, prepare their bodies so it's

762
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: not an excuse. And number two is to make it

763
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: so that when they play tomorrow they feel like they

764
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: didn't play yesterday, right, so they feel fresh. If you're

765
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: not doing things to recover and things prepare yourself, you're

766
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: just giving your competitors an advantage. And the best in

767
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: the world don't want to give advantages.

768
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: No, I mean, and I think that's that's the thing.

769
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: But the average golfer sits all week. They don't do

770
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: anything really athletic during the week. Maybe they go to

771
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 1: the gym or maybe they don't. But I would say

772
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: it's a generalization, but the majority of handicapped golfers that

773
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: I work with tend to be predominantly men. They tend

774
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: to basically have office jobs. They're not incredibly active. They

775
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: come to the golf course and they expect their body

776
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: to work without really warming it up. Give me a

777
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: ten to fifteen minute warm up that a player can

778
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: do that doesn't really take a lot of equipment, that

779
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: they can do on the driving range in the parking

780
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: lot in the locker room. Give me ten to fifteen

781
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: minutes of something that players listening could do that would

782
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: help their body be prepared for the movement that we're

783
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: going to ask your body to do in Gulf swing.

784
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: Great question, and I think this might surprise a lot

785
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: of people what I say here. So I think in

786
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: the past we used to think claude that you know,

787
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: because we'd watch athletes in the past stretch, like you'd

788
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: sit there and you do these hold stretches and we

789
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: spend fifteen twenty minutes. Well, a lot of research has

790
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: been done on this and stretching is very powerful and

791
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: it can help us in your main workouts. But before

792
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 2: you play, one of the last things in the world

793
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: we want to do is increase your range of motion

794
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: to where you're not sure, Like if I give you

795
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: twenty degrees the more shoulder turn, that sounds great, but

796
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: hitting the ball over the green is not great. Or

797
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: not knowing how to control where the club bases this

798
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 2: is not great before you play. So before you play,

799
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: we're not trying to create new mobility. We're not trying

800
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: to change your swiming. We're trying to warm up the

801
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 2: tissue you're about to use, right, And it's more about

802
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: what we call motor unit activation. I'm trying to get

803
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: more of your muscles to be firing so that when

804
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 2: they go to play, it's like they've already been warmed

805
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: up and doing this. So to me, motor unit activation

806
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: or warm up should be exactly what it sounds like,

807
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: some type of activation of the muscles. Right. So what

808
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: most players do is we take some type of band.

809
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: Take any type of exercise band. You can get these

810
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: anywhere from Amazon, TP you get all these bands, you

811
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: attach it to a door somewhere. Right, You take the band,

812
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: and what most people are going to do, if I

813
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: look at the high level, even if you look at

814
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: the best players in the world, part of their program

815
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: is going to be this. We're going to do some

816
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: type of pushing, pulling, chopping lifting right. So you might

817
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: see them pulling a band right with big rotation, maybe

818
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 2: in a lunch stants or squares stand like a golf stance,

819
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: pulling right. Then we'll turn around, we'll push and we'll

820
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: do pushing right, because the golf swing is a series

821
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: of pulling and pushing right, So we'll do push and

822
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: pull and you can do this from different angles, and

823
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: then we do it's called chopping and lifting. It's like

824
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: a diagonal across your body, right, because your arms are

825
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 2: now chopping down on the golf thing. So we'll do

826
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: chopping and lifting. We'll do both directions, right, So some chops,

827
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: some lifts, some push, some polls. If you wanted to

828
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: do like an exercise bike or something just to warm

829
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 2: up because you're about to walk five to eight miles,

830
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: or even if you're riding a cart, you're still usually

831
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: have to do some walking. So some type of light

832
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 2: activation cardio wise pushing, pulling, chopping, lifting cloud would go

833
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 2: like a mile for most people that are doing nothing

834
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: right now for warm up, as simple as that, and

835
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: it could take literally five minutes to just get in

836
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 2: there and do let's say two minutes on a bike

837
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: and then three minutes of pushing, pulling, chopping and lifting,

838
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: and you'll probably play with less pain just doing that.

839
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: If you don't have a bike, you could do jumping jacks,

840
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: you could do air squabs, you could do some light

841
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: running and stuff like. And then the other thing is

842
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: you said you can go online and find a piece

843
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: of fair band, a piece of band that can go

844
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 1: to my TPI dot com and get all that. You

845
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: could keep it in your your your golf back, and

846
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: then you could attach it to the golf cart. You

847
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: could just tide around the golf cart. You could tie

848
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: it to If you think about where you're sitting if

849
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: you're driving the golf cart, if you're sitting above kind

850
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: of where your right your left shoulder would be, there's

851
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: probably going to be a handle you could attach it.

852
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: That's where you could do the chop, and then you

853
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: could put it put it on the side of the

854
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: cart and do the push pulls.

855
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: Yea, and that experiment. This isn't the greatest way to

856
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: do it, but if you wanted to, like let's say

857
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna you know, you're gonna play four times this month,

858
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: you can say one time, I'm gonna just warm up

859
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: by doing pushing, and the next time I'm gonna warm

860
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: up by doing pulling, and then the next time I

861
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: gona warm up by chopping that kind of lifting, and

862
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: you might notice like, hey, when I did pulling, I

863
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: felt way better. You can start to try and figure

864
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: out what works, or maybe it's like hey, when I

865
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 2: warm up my hips, I felt better. But not when

866
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: I had warmed up my spine like a little bit.

867
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: Experimenting goes a long way. If you try something and

868
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: you feel like I didn't feel any difference, you didn't

869
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: do the right thing, Like it literally shouldn't. You should

870
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: feel better by the time you're done than the around before.

871
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: If you want up properly and then cool down, it's

872
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: probably even more important, I'd say, like recovery is even

873
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 2: more important. So you're doing tissue damage when you're playing

874
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: uh to to kind of some form of recovery, and

875
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: there's a million Like if you go look at some

876
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: of the best players in the world now, like their

877
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: houses look like recovery centers at wellness centers, right, I

878
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: mean from this your typical ice bass to heat, so

879
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: ice and heat people use a lot, but things like

880
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: infrared SNAs, red lights, hyperbaric oxygen chambers, oh something like.

881
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: There's so many different things now that are out there

882
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: that if you are serious about your game and you

883
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: are starting to get aches and pains, get serious about

884
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: your recovery as well, can make a huge difference. Nutrition,

885
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: by the way, is nutrition and sleep are the two

886
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: most important for recovery, right, So if you're not getting

887
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: eight hours of sleep, try and figure ou how to

888
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: get it done, and then making sure you have the

889
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 2: proper nutrients when you're just like when you're working out.

890
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00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: on the golf course, I think, I mean, we notice

899
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: this with players at the tour level, if they're not

900
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: eating properly, they will have I mean, I remember when

901
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: Brooks first started out on tour, on the PGA Tour,

902
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: before he kind of became a superstar, he would have

903
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: these spells on the back nine where like twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

904
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: he'd go bogee, double bogie and we'd look at it

905
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: and we start to look at it. If he was

906
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: playing in the morning, he would eat breakfast. Let's say

907
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: he was off early. Let's say teeing off around seven, seven, fifteen,

908
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: he's getting off around four. He's eating probably around five.

909
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: It's teen off at seven. There would be times early

910
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: in Brooks's career where in the middle of the back

911
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: nine he hadn't He doesn't. He hasn't had anything to

912
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: eat since five o'clock in the morning. His brain is

913
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: completely dead. Right, what should players be just the recreational golfer?

914
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: Which are you doing? He just says it really important.

915
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 2: What was his first sign? Because this is all the

916
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: research shows. The first sign of nutritional problem is mental fatigue.

917
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: Is making bad decisions ring day.

918
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he made bad decisions.

919
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean people don't think. They're like, oh, but

920
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: I don't feel tired. I'm like, I don't understand, Like,

921
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 2: did you make some bad decisions out there? Because that

922
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: brain fog is a nutrient problem that's coming in. Yeah.

923
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: Whatever, What what should people be eating on the golf course?

924
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: What should they be drinking on the golf course? Because

925
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: they're all a lot of golfers that don't drink or

926
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 1: eat anything.

927
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so this is you know there again, every

928
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: person's different. I hate that answer, but it's true. Some

929
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: people will certain nutrients work better. But in general, there

930
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: are three types of foods you can eat, right, A fat,

931
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: carbohydrate or protein. Right, most people, if you go protein,

932
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: it takes them a while to digest the protein and

933
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 2: get the nutrients. Like if you're using like beef turkey,

934
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: which a lot of people put because it's easy in

935
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: the bag, they can do it. But just to know,

936
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 2: like you if you're like, man, I need some energy

937
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: right now, and you need a beef jerkey, it's going

938
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: to take you a couple holes before, if at least,

939
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: for that to kind of kick in. Then there's carbohydrates.

940
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: Carbohydrates like a banana, right, fruits, vegetables. If you if

941
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: you eat a banana, it's a very quick rush, right,

942
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: so it's it's cype fruit. Does it gets into your

943
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: blood sugar right away? You can get the energy, but

944
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: it creates these ups and downs your blood sugar. So

945
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: it's like, if you're going to do carbohydrates, then I

946
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't make a schedule like every two holes you're eating

947
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: something or drinking something just to try and keep that

948
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: because you need to keep it flushed in there. So

949
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: what most players use, believe it or not. And like

950
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: I said, when I say most seventy percent, so there's

951
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 2: thirty percent aren't doing this. They're using carbohydrate or protein.

952
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: Like it would be fats, right, So fats number one,

953
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 2: you get more energy per killed calorie of energy of

954
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: fat that you get in there, and it's slow sustained

955
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: blood sugar release. And what's the most common fat would

956
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: be nuts and seeds. So like some type of trail mix,

957
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: some type of bars with the you know, you see

958
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 2: these all over the place. They're very stable in the bag.

959
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 2: And I think you know, between that and like these,

960
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: the carbohydrates are probably the most common that people use

961
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: during the course. But nothing is going to fix a

962
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: crappy diet though, Claudes, right. So, like like you said,

963
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 2: hopefully Brooks's breakfast was good, right, If you've got crap

964
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: for breakfasts and then the golf cart comes around with

965
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: the food and you're grabbing a Snickers and a gatorade

966
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: and it's just more sugar and it's it's it's hard

967
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: to repair on the golf course right, So you know, Uh,

968
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 2: to me, I always say, it's just general new tditional

969
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: advice if you're again, if you take your game serious.

970
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: The easiest nutritional advice I was ever told was take

971
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: your plate of food, whatever food you're about to eat, right,

972
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: and if you look at the quantity of fats, carbohydrate,

973
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 2: and protein, if it is about half carbohydrate, a quarter fat,

974
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: a quarter protein, you're doing pretty good as long as

975
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: you're picking the right carbohydrates fats in it, right, So

976
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: that's kind of a good mixture. But if it's like

977
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: if you look at your meal and you're like, this

978
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: is one hundred percent fat, or this is one hundred

979
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: percent carbohydrate, it's one hundred percent of protein, it's probably

980
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: not the best.

981
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: Our. Everybody's trying to hit the golf ball further. Players

982
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: now are hitting the golf ball further than they ever have.

983
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: You kind of started out in the long drive world.

984
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: But when we're talking about power in twenty twenty four,

985
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: Greg something that I think a lot of people listening

986
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: to the pod are going to be hearing on a

987
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: regular basis now on TV. They're hearing players talk about it,

988
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: they're hearing commentators ground force reaction how players are using

989
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: the ground. How can we explain that to everyone listening

990
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: so they have an understanding of what it means, but

991
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: also how they can start to identify how they're using

992
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: the ground force reactions and how they can better use

993
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: them for power.

994
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is really a it's been like a

995
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 2: tidal wave of information over the last five to ten years,

996
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 2: and it's really because of technology. Right. We now have

997
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: these force plates on the ground where we can measure

998
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 2: what the players are doing when they use their feet

999
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: or when they push from the ground. And what we

1000
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: found is and Newton knew this long time ago, right,

1001
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: he has these He had this law, this third law

1002
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 2: whereas there's an equal opsic reaction where if I push

1003
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: into the ground with one hundred pounds, the ground's going

1004
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: to push back in one hundred pounds, right, And that

1005
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: force that we put into the ground, as it the

1006
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: ground pushes back into us, we can use that force

1007
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: to create rotation and power. Right. And what we've what

1008
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 2: we've found is that if you look at the best

1009
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: players in the world, we used to think, I'm sure

1010
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: back in the day Claude, we used to think like,

1011
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: let's look at their lead leged impact right, and we're like,

1012
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: you know, it needs to be firm and planted and solid.

1013
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: And there's we used to call it posting up on

1014
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: the left side right right. Well, I mean, I don't

1015
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: know if anybody does that anymore. Like if you look

1016
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: at Scotty Shot, I don't even think it's what's on

1017
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: the ground at impact. Right. So if you look at

1018
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: we've learned so much about these ground reaction forces. There's

1019
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: a couple of things that I think are reported for

1020
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 2: people who know. Number one, the best players in the world,

1021
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: they do it way earlier than you think. Right, if

1022
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: you're looking at impact, it's too late. Because Newton also

1023
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: had his first law was an object at rest stays

1024
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: at rest unless some type of force is applied to it.

1025
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 2: You need to push from the ground to be able

1026
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: to move. Right, So when you push from the ground,

1027
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 2: a chain reaction happens that makes you move. If you're

1028
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: trying to push at impact, it's too late. It already

1029
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: the movement already started. Right. So the best players in

1030
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: the world they push from the ground right between the

1031
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: top of the backs swing and shaft vertical right, that's

1032
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: when they push. Because now that energy needs to go

1033
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: from your lower body to your trunk to your arms

1034
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: to the club. If you start pushing later, it's too late.

1035
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: You can't get it to the club. So the number

1036
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 2: one rule of ground reaction for us is is the

1037
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: best players in the world they do it way earlier

1038
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 2: than amateurs. Amateurs are always late. I'm like, you're trying

1039
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: to You're trying to push from the ground at impact.

1040
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm like that this have to happened way earlier. So

1041
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: the first thing we're realizing is how soon these things happen, right.

1042
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: And it's one of the I use an example that

1043
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 2: I hope this comes across on a podcast I do.

1044
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: I teach my players something called a golf vertical jump.

1045
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 2: I have ever done this with you? No? Okay, So

1046
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: to me this, out of all the things we try

1047
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: to use, rotary chairs, all stuff, I feel like this

1048
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 2: is the one that gives the biggest light bulb moment.

1049
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 2: And that is if I said, okay, I want you

1050
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: to jump, right, most people, if I say do a

1051
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: vertical jump, They're gonna squat, their arms are going to

1052
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,919
Speaker 2: go down, and as they jump, their arms are gonna

1053
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: go up. Right. Can I see us on this or

1054
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 2: this is this a video podcast or just down okay, okay, okay.

1055
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: So so basically what you're gonna do is if you

1056
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 2: stand up and try this. Okay, if I say, just

1057
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: do a counter movement of jump, you're gonna squat and jump.

1058
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: You'll notice when you squat, your arms are gonna go

1059
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 2: down and as you jump, your arms are gonna go up.

1060
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: I want you to now do a golf jump, which

1061
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: is the complete opposite. As you squat, I want you

1062
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: to raise your arms up and as you jump, I

1063
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 2: want you to drive your arms down. Right when you

1064
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: do that, you're gonna realize that when your legs jump,

1065
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 2: your legs can actually drive your arms down. And that's

1066
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 2: what happens in the golf swing. And the golf swing

1067
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 2: is on the top of the back swing, there's a

1068
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: little squat as they start the down swing. The jump

1069
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 2: with the legs drives the arms down. It's not the

1070
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 2: arms come down and then you try and jump your legs.

1071
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 2: It's the legs drive the arms. And if you do

1072
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: this at home and you do a jump this time,

1073
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: when you do the jump, once you get that feeling

1074
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: because it's weird, it's like backwards to lift your arms

1075
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: up and squat and then jump and drive your arms down.

1076
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: Try and do it, but try and jump backwards a

1077
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: little bit right. Don't jump closer to the ball. Jump

1078
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: farther away from the ball. So as you squat and

1079
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: you jump away from the the golf bar will jump backwards.

1080
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: You'll start to feel what the best players in the

1081
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: world do in transition. And if you take it one

1082
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: step further, if I say, okay, I want you to

1083
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: take your hands together. Instead of just lifting your hands up,

1084
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: take your hands over your right shoulder for a right

1085
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: handed player, squat and then as you jump, I want

1086
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: you to feel like you're jumping with maybe twice as

1087
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 2: much from your leave foot as your trail foot. And

1088
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: make sure you jump backwards. When you do that, look

1089
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: at your feet. You'll be like, man, my feet, just it,

1090
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: just just jump backwards and move. And I'll say look

1091
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: at your feet, and I'll go look at Scotti Scheffler's

1092
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: feet because that's exactly what he's doing right right, And

1093
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 2: it's it's like a light bulb because what we've found

1094
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: is that when you actually shake the handle of the

1095
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 2: whip first, the tip of the whip goes a lot faster, right.

1096
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: So what we've been finding is that a lot of

1097
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 2: people are just trying to crack the tip of the

1098
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: whip by just moving the tip of the whip, and

1099
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 2: we're like, no, you actually should shake the handle first,

1100
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: and then the energy transfers through your body and that's

1101
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 2: where that that ground reaction force comes in that.

1102
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: I think we've been able to measure now and like

1103
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: you said, the best players in the world, a lot

1104
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: of things are happening much earlier than the average golfer.

1105
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: A lot of things happened earlier for the best players

1106
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: in the world. And one of the things that I

1107
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: think we've known for a while that is a tough

1108
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: one for the average golfer is I think in an

1109
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: effort to get power, a lot of players make that big,

1110
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: massive move off the golf ball over to the right

1111
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: and then, as you said, they're trying to get back

1112
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: over to their left, but they're doing it at impact.

1113
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: Victor Houghlin's become a member at my club, the Floridian,

1114
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: and we've got swing catalysts and stuff. So anytime any

1115
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: good players are around, I'm like, listen, can we just

1116
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: get you on swing catalyst to see what it is

1117
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: that you're doing. I mainly am doing it just so

1118
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: I can kind of see what the best players in

1119
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: the world are doing. And we got on swing cat

1120
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: and when his left when his hands were about in

1121
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: line with his right thigh, he had ninety percent of

1122
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: his pressure on his right side, but his body hadn't moved.

1123
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: There hadn't been any movement with his upper body or

1124
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: his lower body. And then by the time his arms

1125
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 1: got about his hands got about shoulder height, he already

1126
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: had seventy to eighty percent of his weight already going

1127
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: to his left foot, his lead foot, before he even

1128
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: changed it. I think so many golfers like they're trying

1129
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: to wind it up so much they get over on

1130
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: their right side, they're trying to make that big shoulder turn,

1131
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: and then they just get stuck over there.

1132
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 2: I think what you just what you just said is

1133
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 2: very very important. Is when you're looking at a force

1134
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 2: plate or even a pressure mat, which a lot of

1135
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 2: people will get on those, right now, you're looking at

1136
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 2: how much force they're pushing into the ground. So when

1137
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 2: you says Victor was pushing ninety percent of his pushes

1138
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 2: coming from his right leg, So think this through and

1139
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: it's happening.

1140
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: Greg Like, if we were looking at slow motion frames,

1141
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: it's like three frames off the golf ball.

1142
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: Think about this. When you push with your right foot

1143
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 2: into the ground, most people move left right.

1144
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: How do I move left?

1145
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: I push from my right leg to move left. So

1146
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 2: when people see the force plate going hey, it's ninety

1147
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: percent right, I'm like, because he's already starting to push

1148
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: left right, he's it's not that he's moving to the right.

1149
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people make this mistake. They go, oh, look,

1150
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: I got to move ninety percent on my body to

1151
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 2: the right, and then I got to move my ninety

1152
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: percent of my body to the left. I'm like, no, no,

1153
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: that's where they're pushing right. So it's actually the opposite.

1154
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 2: They're pushing from their right leg to move left, and

1155
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 2: then they push from their left leg, which pushes them backwards.

1156
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: So it's it's the opposite of what you're thinking. Right

1157
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: to most players, they look at force and they go, oh,

1158
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: it's weight shift. I'm like, no, no, no, I never

1159
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 2: said weight shift. I said how much you're pushing right.

1160
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: So what you just said, which is really important, is

1161
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: most players they already start to they start to push

1162
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: from their right leg in the back, and then early

1163
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: they started pushing from their left to create this vertical jump.

1164
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: We just talked about this vertical it's not that they

1165
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: move right and move left. Yes, there's a little bit

1166
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: of right and left movement, but most players are pretty centered.

1167
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,479
Speaker 2: There's not a ton of movement right. I think people

1168
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: misunderstand ground force and weight shift is really yeah, they're.

1169
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: Basic historic thumbs, Greg. I think historically, because people are

1170
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: so afraid of moving. You know, everybody I talk to

1171
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: is saying, Oh, I don't want to sway, I don't

1172
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: want to slide, you know, I want to try and

1173
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: but I still want to try and get power. And

1174
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: then what has everybody historically been told, Hey, you got

1175
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: to get your left shoulder behind the golf ball. But

1176
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times what happens is if

1177
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: you think about the buttons on your shirt. What I

1178
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: was talking about what Victor Hoblin does is he's got

1179
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: ninety percent of his pressure in his right foot when

1180
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 1: his hands are kind of when his triangle of his

1181
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: arms are kind of right over his right thigh.

1182
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: But the buttons on.

1183
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: His shirt haven't even moved right. It's just what's happening

1184
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: with the lower body.

1185
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 2: You can stand if anybody if you stand up and

1186
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 2: I said, okay, I feel like you're pushing from your

1187
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: right like push from your left leg. You can do

1188
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: that without moving right. I can push into the ground

1189
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 2: without moving. I don't have to like I said, I

1190
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: don't have to wait shift. Now there is there is

1191
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: a normal kinetic sequence that happens. We talk about kinematic sequence,

1192
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: which is basically the sequence how your body moves. But

1193
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: there's a kinetic sequence, which is the forces that you use.

1194
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: And typically what happens like you just described in the

1195
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 2: middle of the back swing, like I was just with

1196
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 2: John Rahm a couple of days ago, like talk about

1197
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: starting the earliest. I mean, he doesn't even have a

1198
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: back so he starts right. So so basically in the

1199
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 2: middle of the back swing, they start to push with

1200
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: their trail leg so that they can start to go

1201
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: forward right. Because remember if I push from my right

1202
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: usually it makes me go left right. So they're starting

1203
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: early to push from their trail leg and creates a

1204
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: linear mood. So the first force we see is a

1205
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: linear move right from right to left, and it's a

1206
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: push from the trailer the lead leg. Then we see

1207
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: what's we call frontel plane torque, which is like a

1208
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: rocking motion where they bring their right shoulder down. For

1209
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: a right handed player, that's what helps shallow the club.

1210
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: It's like a twisting right. Then the next thing you

1211
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: do is you see the actually rotation. Right, they start

1212
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: to twist and rotate, and then there's that vertical jump.

1213
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: That's the normal kinetic sequence. It's lateral rock twist jump,

1214
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 2: and all of that occurs before the shafts vertical right.

1215
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: So you got to if you don't start in the

1216
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: middle of the back swing, I'm sorry, you got no chance,

1217
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: or you're gonna have a different kinetic sequence than the

1218
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: best players in the world.

1219
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: Well, there's a girl that I've had her on the

1220
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: pod before, but Marina Alex who I work with. She

1221
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: plays the LPGA. Marina is in her you know, early thirties, right,

1222
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: she's five 'ot three. She's had some back issues. She

1223
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: played at Manderbolk. She's a two time winner on the

1224
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: on the LPGA. She's played on the Solheim Cup. She

1225
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: carries the golf ball with her driver right around that

1226
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: two twenty five to two thirty in the air right.

1227
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: But she's always been trying. When I first started working

1228
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: with her, you know, three years ago, she was trying

1229
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 1: to get all the power in the backswing, specifically with

1230
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: the driver. We'd see her at the top of her backswing, Greg,

1231
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: get ninety percent of her weight on her right side,

1232
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: make this and this big, massive move over to the right.

1233
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: The problem is that five, if you're Dustin Johnson, if

1234
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: you're Rory McElroy, if you're John Rahman, you have that

1235
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: massive amount of speed, you can manage that. But if

1236
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: you don't have and the average golfer doesn't have a

1237
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: lot of club hit speed and a lot of ball speed.

1238
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: So in Marina's case, she would make this big move

1239
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: in an effort to try and do the right thing,

1240
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: get power, but then with the driver she'd just get

1241
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: stuck on the right side, never really get back to

1242
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: the left. And so one of the things that we've

1243
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: done is over the last couple of years is we've

1244
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: just basically stabilized her and said listen, don't try and

1245
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: move off the golf ball, stay centered and get left

1246
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: as early as you possibly can. And one thing it

1247
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: has done, Greg, is it help clean up the contact issues.

1248
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: You know, make one little I would make one little recommendation.

1249
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: It would be to try and say, push from the

1250
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 2: left as soon as you can, don't have to wait,

1251
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: shift to the left as soon as you can right.

1252
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 2: So I think that that's so they don't misinterpret that,

1253
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: because you can get onto your left and still not

1254
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: push from your left right. So then and then I

1255
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 2: always say, listen, there's if I take our whole power.

1256
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: We have a whole class on power, and if I

1257
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: take all the research out there, there's only three ways

1258
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 2: at ebol farther right, apply more force, right, apply more speed.

1259
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: Power in physics is force time's velocity or strength time speed.

1260
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 2: So I can get more force, more stronger, or I

1261
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: can get faster. Right now, I can do those in

1262
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: the gym. I get stronger and faster like John Ram's

1263
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: got it. He's a massive man, right, so he can

1264
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: apply a lot of force. So you got either two options.

1265
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: Get stronger, apply more force, get faster, apply on more speed.

1266
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: Or the third option is apply that force or speed

1267
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 2: for more time. Now, this is an important one, right,

1268
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: Like imagine if I put you on a chair with wheels,

1269
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: and I put you one foot away from a wall,

1270
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: I got behind you and I pushed you into the wall. Okay,

1271
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: I could hurt you, but I couldn't kill you. If

1272
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 2: we took thirty feet away from the wall, and now

1273
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: I had a thirty foot ramp time to run and

1274
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: plyw you into the wall, I can do a lot

1275
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: more damage because I have more time to apply that

1276
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Speaker 2: force and velocity. So there's only three ways in a ball.

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Speaker 2: Part of there more force, more velocity, more speed, or

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Speaker 2: more time. Like what is John Daly did way back

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Speaker 2: in the day. What is done? They take this really

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Speaker 2: long backswing so they have more time to apply force.

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Speaker 2: The taller I am some of the long drive guys

1282
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: that can take the club way farther than the ball,

1283
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Speaker 2: they have more time. A five foot three female doesn't

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Speaker 2: have a lot of time too, So it sounded like

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Speaker 2: she was trying to get more time by going over here,

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Speaker 2: but it was costing her force and speed, right. So

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Speaker 2: it's this, it's this interplay between these things where if

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Speaker 2: you take this longer swing, but now you're not applying

1289
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Speaker 2: the force because it's too late. Like if you apply

1290
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 2: the force late, that's not a zero force. It can

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Speaker 2: all work against each other. So you've got to you've

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01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: got to remember all three are important. And to me,

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Speaker 2: like speed, you should just work on getting faster and

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Speaker 2: anything you do like our guys do sprinting mechanics, they're

1295
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Speaker 2: doing medical balls, they're doing jumping things that get just

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Speaker 2: to make their nervous system faster. Obviously, force, any type

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Speaker 2: of strength training is going to help you. Right, Hitting

1298
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Speaker 2: golf balls helps you, but pushing, pulling, all the things

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Speaker 2: we've talked about applying force and then mobility is what

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Speaker 2: allows you to get the time right. So that's why

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Speaker 2: all those pieces need to be part of a program.

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Speaker 1: And then the other part you talked about the stability

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Speaker 1: and the mobility. I think it was Dave Philips said

1304
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Speaker 1: that you guys did some massive speed games with Cameron

1305
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Speaker 1: Chengali when he was playing on the PGA Tour before

1306
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Speaker 1: he went to live. I think there was a year

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Speaker 1: where he made the biggest junk jump in in driving distance,

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Speaker 1: club hit speed and stuff. He said that Cam came out,

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Speaker 1: came out to TPI, I was talking to you guys

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Speaker 1: about all stuff he wanted to try and do to

1311
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: hit the golf ball further. What are some things that

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Speaker 1: he could do in the gym and start and I

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Speaker 1: think it was you that said that's not great. Have

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Speaker 1: you ever just thought about the swinging the club faster,

1315
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: meaning drive the car faster? And I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of times everyone thinks, oh, I don't want my golf

1317
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Speaker 1: swing I got quick. I don't want to swing too fast.

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Speaker 1: But to hit the golf ball further, you have to

1319
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Speaker 1: move the tool, which is the golf club. You have

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Speaker 1: to move it faster to hit the golf ball further.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times golfers are afraid

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Speaker 1: to make fast, powerful golf swings because they've been told, no,

1323
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Speaker 1: it's got to be tempo tempo, tempo tempo.

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Speaker 2: I've got some great advice for this. I got great advice.

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Speaker 2: So first of all, Okay, like you said, most of

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Speaker 2: the best players in the world are not swinging ninety percent,

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01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: they're swinging one hundred and five percent, right, So if

1328
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: you're trying to get out there and guide it in,

1329
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: you're nervous they're going to blow it by you am

1330
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: out right, So how do you get to the point

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Speaker 2: where it's moving fast but you're not scared? To me,

1332
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Speaker 2: and this is the biggest governor or barrier on golfers

1333
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: is they're scared to practice fast because they think it's

1334
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Speaker 2: going to be erratic. So what we do is we

1335
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 2: play a game that we came up with called three

1336
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 2: strikes a baseball game, right, And I'm telling you, Claude,

1337
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: this never fails. Right, So what we do is we

1338
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 2: get a launch monitor. It doesn't matter to get a

1339
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 2: little prgru to a track man, doesn't matter. That can

1340
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: measure clubheed speed. Go out, go out to your range

1341
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 2: and just do like, Okay, your life depends on hitting

1342
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: the fairway. I call this your cruising Like. I want

1343
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: to make sure you hit the fairway. Do two swings

1344
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: and record your clubhead speed and your ball speed. Right,

1345
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 2: clubhead speed's more important. I like to look at the

1346
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Speaker 2: club at speed. Let's say you're cruising speeds one hundred

1347
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: miles an hour, right, and you're like that, I know

1348
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: I can hit the fairway on hundred miles an hour.

1349
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: Then say, okay, what I'm about to do I will

1350
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 2: never do on the golfers. Okay, I'm going to do

1351
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: crazy stuff right now, right, and it doesn't matter. I

1352
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 2: just just don't break your driver or use a practice driver,

1353
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 2: but basically try things to make the ball go faster, Like,

1354
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: lift your left heel and take the club back farther.

1355
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 2: Swing your arms faster, take a faster tempo back swinging.

1356
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: Go ahead and lift your arms up higher. Try and

1357
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: make sure you're weight shifting harder. Try everything you can

1358
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 2: think of, where all you're trying to do is move

1359
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 2: the club faster. And honestly, heating into a net would

1360
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 2: be more advantage right here, because I don't want you

1361
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: to look at the golf ball right you will figure

1362
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 2: out that, you know, when I do this crazy thing,

1363
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: my club itates be went from one hundred miles an

1364
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Speaker 2: hour to one hundred and ten miles an hour, like

1365
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: you'll see canes up to twenty miles an hour right

1366
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: now when you do that? Okay, this is the most

1367
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 2: important thing. Experiment, trial kind of stuff. And even if

1368
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 2: you're like, there's no way I can play like this,

1369
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,479
Speaker 2: you're never gonna play like this, that's not the point.

1370
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Speaker 2: I just want to know, could you move the club faster?

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01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: Once you figure out what moves the club faster, let's

1372
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: say it's lifting your lead heel in the back swing. Okay,

1373
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 2: then you're gonna play three strikes? Okay, three strikes? Is

1374
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: you tee? Up a ball and you say, okay, first

1375
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: of all, I'm gonna swing with this crazy swing as

1376
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: hard as I can, and I just want to see

1377
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: what my clubatespeed gets up to. Let's say you do

1378
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: this crazy swing and you swing as hard as you

1379
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: can and your first swing is one hundred and eight

1380
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Speaker 2: miles an hour. Okay, so let's say it's one o eight.

1381
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: I want you to write down you say, first swing

1382
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: is one hundred and eight. Now you get to tee

1383
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 2: up another ball. If this next swing is one hundred

1384
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: and eight or faster, you get to keep going. If

1385
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 2: it's below that, it's a strike, right, And if it

1386
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: goes up, your new floor is that number, right, So

1387
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: you can't go blow that. So let's say your first

1388
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: ball is one towight. Let's say your next ball is

1389
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: one oh nine. Let's say your next ball is one ten.

1390
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,959
Speaker 2: So you hit three balls, you're at one ten. Let's

1391
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: say your fourth ball is one o eight. That's a

1392
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 2: strike because it just went down one at ten. So

1393
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: when you get a strike right down, you can say, okay,

1394
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: strike one. Take sixty seconds. Just chill out, relax. You

1395
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: can hit a couple weds if you want, but just

1396
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 2: let your nervous system relax. It's only strike one. You

1397
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 2: get three strikes. Get up there, te up to your

1398
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 2: fifth ball. Now again your floor is at one ten.

1399
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: Now you just got to strike one eight. Your next

1400
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 2: ball better be one ten or higher. You're gonna get

1401
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 2: your second strike. Let's say your fifth balls one ten,

1402
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 2: that's tie. You keep going six ball. Let's say is

1403
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: one o nine, that's strike two. And let's say you're

1404
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 2: seventh balls is one oh eight, strike three. You're done.

1405
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: So you basically did nine balls and you were done. Right.

1406
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: What I do after this? That's a speed training session, right,

1407
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: And it's crazy. You're never gonna play golf like this.

1408
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: But then all you all want I want you to

1409
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:15,919
Speaker 2: do is and this is what I tell myself. Okay,

1410
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 2: it's now life depends on it. I got to go

1411
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: to the ferry. Let's go back to a cruising speed. Now.

1412
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 2: Remember when you started, your cruising speed was one hundred

1413
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: miles an hour. So now you get you t up

1414
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: two balls. Hit the first one just trying to cruise

1415
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: sometimes just your brain slowing down is a little weird.

1416
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 2: The second one, usually you're back to your normal swing.

1417
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: I want you to look at the launch monitor. Normally

1418
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 2: your cruising speed now is one o two where before

1419
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: it was one hundred, and it feels like you're going

1420
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Speaker 2: slow motion. And this is the keys. I'm not changing

1421
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 2: your golf swing. I'm changing how fast your golf swing

1422
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 2: goes right. And what happens is your brain starts to

1423
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 2: go you know, I can swing one o two under control,

1424
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 2: and then as you do this speed over time, you're like, oh,

1425
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: I can't do one oh six over control. And in

1426
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 2: a year you've gone from a one hundred mine hour

1427
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 2: club it's maybe to one hundred and six, and it

1428
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 2: feels like you haven't changed anything. That's how you had speed.

1429
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And one of the things Miko Derrisco I've had

1430
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: in the pod who I met through Dave Phillips. He

1431
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: works with John Rahm and stuff like that. But one

1432
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: of the drills that he does with our juniors is

1433
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: he has them hit five fairway finders balls where they're

1434
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: going to hit it and play, and then he has

1435
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: them hit five flat out as fast and as hard

1436
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Speaker 1: as they can. We sometimes find that the flat out

1437
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: fast as they can, they hit more fairways doing that

1438
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 1: then they do when they're trying to steer and just

1439
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: get it and play and just not miss it and

1440
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: not hit a bad shot.

1441
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Speaker 2: For some reason, people make the golf swing non athletic.

1442
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 2: Right when we say the swing as hard as you can,

1443
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: actually the athlete comes out and a lot of times

1444
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 2: the athlete is way more accurate than the non athlete.

1445
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: Believe it or not.

1446
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: Listen, we could talk for hours. If people want to

1447
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: find out more about what you guys do at the

1448
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Speaker 1: Titleist Performance Institute, first of all, tell them where they

1449
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: can find it, but give the the elevator pitch on

1450
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: what TPI.

1451
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 2: Is real simple so we actually are part of the

1452
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Speaker 2: titlest brand. If you go to the my TPI my

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Speaker 2: Titles Performance in suit so MYTPI dot com you can

1454
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Speaker 2: learn all about TPI. We basically take care of all

1455
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Speaker 2: titles players worldwide from their any any aspects of the performance.

1456
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Speaker 2: But we also certify golf coaches, medical professionals, and fitness

1457
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Speaker 2: professionals on how to do what we do. So if

1458
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Speaker 2: you're if you're in the business and working with golfers,

1459
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Speaker 2: you can go on there to learn about our seminars.

1460
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 2: Everything's online virtually and we do live classes. And I

1461
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,240
Speaker 2: do want to shout out that we do have our

1462
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Speaker 2: TPI Annual Summit coming up here in Orlando, that mister

1463
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Speaker 2: cloud Harmon will be speaking that that's the October twenty

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Speaker 2: fifth through the twenty seventh, and it's one of one

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Speaker 2: of the close times where all the smartest minds in

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Speaker 2: the world come together in lecture. But my TPI dot

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1468
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 1: Everyone listening is if you have any sort of swing falls,

1469
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: anything that you do, come over the top, hit it thin,

1470
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 1: hit it fat, all of the things that we've talked about.

1471
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Speaker 1: You can go on MYTPI dot com and basically type in, okay,

1472
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: I come over the top, I've got limited whatever the

1473
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Speaker 1: issues are, and the AI can give you an entire

1474
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Speaker 1: workout formula.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. On our website it'll say improve my game. Click

1476
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Speaker 2: on improve my gream and then it can have it'll have.

1477
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Speaker 2: There's a drill and exercise library where you can type

1478
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Speaker 2: in like hip mobility and I'll give you a ton

1479
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: of stuff. There's a place that says swing characteristics where

1480
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 2: like you'll look and says over the top. Click on

1481
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: over the top. We'll talk about some of the most

1482
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 2: common causes of these some of the physical things and

1483
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Speaker 2: at the bottom you'll see drills and stuff that usually

1484
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Speaker 2: help most of the people with the I.

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Speaker 1: Can't I can't thank you enough for coming on. I've

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01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: been wanting to do it for a while. But I

1487
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: think the work that you and Dave and everybody on

1488
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: your team out at the Titleist Performance Institute, like I said,

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01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: it has been a life changer for me. And you know,

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm so lucky to not only be able to have

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: you and Dave as mentors but also as friends. And

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01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: there isn't anything physically that happens with my body or

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01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: if we have players but that have physical issues. I mean,

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01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're like Jesus Chris another message from Claude,

1495
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: where it's always okay, what's this player doing? Or I

1496
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: messaged you the other day on I've messaged you twice

1497
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: this year. When my back went out in Saudi Arabia

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01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: and I got an MRI, you were the first person

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01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 1: I messaged and called. And you know, I went to

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Speaker 1: see a doctor from my shoulder the other day. As

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: soon as I got out. You were the first person

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01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: I called, and you said, yeah, let me design a

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01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: program for you for your shoulder to where we'll do

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01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: some rehab drills. And within two minutes you sent me

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01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 1: an email. I went on the TPI app and it

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01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: was fifteen exercises that take about fifteen minutes. And I've

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01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 1: been doing every day. The shoulder feels better. You mentioned

1508
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: the World Golf Fitness Summit in Orlando in October. The

1509
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: greatest minds in the game are meeting there. The fact

1510
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: that you have me speaking would would would mean that

1511
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: that's all bullshit, But uh, I'm excited to speak, and

1512
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 1: and and I can really.

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01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: Dave and I have the utmost respect for you. Uh

1514
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: and and uh we we we see the work that

1515
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: you do with your players, and that's that's the ultimate test.

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01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I don't think anybody gets the

1517
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: job done better than you do. So we appreciate you, buddy.

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: We'll have you on next time, and we'll get you

1519
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: to tell the story about my dad with the medicine

1520
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: ball throw. Uh when hose he go ahead and tell

1521
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: it now quickly. It's a great one.

1522
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: Okay. So uh, first time I was ever invited out

1523
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 2: the titleist me and Dave the CEO while you line

1524
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 2: invites intes us to come out and test some of

1525
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: the best players in the world, and he's like, I

1526
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 2: got a couple players want you to test. We didn't

1527
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 2: realize it was the world match. And we get there

1528
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 2: and like, the first guy there is Phil Mickelson, and

1529
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: then it Turnie Els and it's VJ and you had

1530
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 2: all the best in the world there and then all

1531
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden, uh this this jose Ap and Marie

1532
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: all the top with with your dad walk in right

1533
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: and Butch's just like, what are you guys doing. We're like,

1534
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 2: we're testing, doing this new three D stuff, and he's like,

1535
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: well test those days. So I and we kept testing everybody.

1536
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 2: Everybody was so great, and the CEO is like, all

1537
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: you're you're testing is the same. I'm like, well, look

1538
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 2: who you're giving us the best player in the world.

1539
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,040
Speaker 2: These are all great players, but they'll be bad and

1540
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: they and I'm like he's thinking what we're doing is

1541
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 2: horrible because everybody'shown up the same. And we get jose

1542
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 2: on the three D and it's bad, like there's something wrong,

1543
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like, at first I was like, finally there's

1544
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: somebody different. But I'm like, how do I tell it?

1545
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: You know, a two time Master's champion, there's something wrong.

1546
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 2: And I and Butcher, your dad's like, what's going on?

1547
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 2: And I go, well, there's something wrong with the lower body.

1548
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: He's like, what do you mean? And I go, I

1549
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 2: don't want to say that. I go, but like his

1550
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: lower body is like dead. He's like, no, no, there's

1551
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 2: a problem in his swing. Right now, we're trying to

1552
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 2: figure out what's going on. And I'm like, oh, it's

1553
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: like okay, I go, well, there's something wrong with his

1554
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: lower it's not producing power. And I think they thought

1555
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 2: he had like a foot problem or something at that time,

1556
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: Like I don't think they realized it was a lower back.

1557
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:56,280
Speaker 2: But and I and I go, you know, I probably

1558
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 2: should test him physically real quick because we're just doing swing.

1559
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 2: So we do a quick screen. It's like, you know,

1560
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 2: I need to do a couple of power tests, and

1561
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 2: our power tests, we do a jump, we do some

1562
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: medicine ball stuff, and we got to the medicine ball

1563
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 2: stuff and Jose threw a medicine ball to the point

1564
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 2: where I was like, like, he threw like thirteen feet

1565
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 2: in almost like twenty two right, And I'm like, all right, stop,

1566
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 2: like time out, there's something wrong. And your Dad's like, well,

1567
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: what's going on. I'm like that, that's like, that's like

1568
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,400
Speaker 2: I should see that with like a thirteen year old,

1569
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: like there's something wrong. And he's like, oh, come on,

1570
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: you can do it harder. And I'm like, no, no,

1571
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: you understand, like I think he might be heard, and

1572
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, we're done. So I go

1573
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: and I put my hand out to bring Jose up

1574
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: off the ground. I'm not paying attention to your dad,

1575
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: and your dad was like, oh, let me, I could

1576
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 2: throw this ball farder Dad. He grabs some medicine ball

1577
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 2: and he lays down and he just proceeds to sit

1578
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: up and throw the ball. But Jose was throwing the

1579
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 2: ball to me right your dad decided to throw the

1580
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: medical ball against a wall. But what did realize That

1581
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 2: wall was drywall right and behind that wall was the

1582
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 2: director of the facility for taitleists right there. That ball

1583
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: hits the wall and goes through the drywall like it's

1584
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: nothing at all here. It's a scream and crash, and

1585
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 2: I'm like like, oh my god, I'm never getting invited

1586
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 2: back here again. The director walks in like screaming, what

1587
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 2: the hell is going on? And I look at your

1588
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: dad and he's down the ground, and I swear your

1589
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: dad was like, who gives a I can throw a

1590
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: part of the throw that ball back like I was like.

1591
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm never getting invited back here again.

1592
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: But the greatest that is the epitome of my father.

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you could just see him, Well, I'll tell

1594
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: you what I could do that and then he throws

1595
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 1: it through the wall and he's like, well, it shouldn't

1596
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: make the wall stronger. It's not my fault.

1597
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 2: He's the best. I loved it great.

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: Talking to you, Greg, look forward to seeing you in

1599
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: October at the TPR World El Fitness on the top

1600
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: of it. So that was doctor Greg Rose from the

1601
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: Titleist Performance Institute, And like I said, he's one of

1602
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: the smartest people I've ever met. If I have any

1603
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 1: issues with my body, if I have any issues with players,

1604
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: He's someone whose brain I pick on a regular basis.

1605
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 1: He's a good friend and he has been an incredible

1606
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: mentor to me, and I certainly wouldn't be where I

1607
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,680
Speaker 1: am in my career if it wasn't for meeting Dave

1608
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: Phillips and Greg Rose, because I think the work that

1609
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: they do is second to none in the golf space.

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: Can't thank everybody enough for listening. It's summertime. I think

1611
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: everybody's going to be getting back out onto the golf course.

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01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: We're going to try and get as many good guests

1613
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: as possible. Hit me up on social you know who

1614
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: you guys want to hear from. You can rate, review,

1615
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Speaker 1: subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, some of which comes

1616
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: to you almost every Wednesday, but it definitely comes to

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01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: you almost every week. We will see you next week.