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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: We say good morning to our radio affiliates, John Smoltz,

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Speaker 2: they will be on the call for Fox. It's baseball.

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Speaker 2: We got the Mariners, Blue Jays, Dodgers, Brewers. That'll be

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Speaker 2: coming up later today. And you have two football games,

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Speaker 2: Bill's Falcons Bears, Commanders. Bears getting five and a half

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Speaker 2: and the Falcons are getting four and a half at

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Speaker 2: home against the Buffalo Bills. When's the last time the

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Speaker 2: Falcons and the Bills played a game? Just seems so random.

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Speaker 3: That's a weird combo. It is Falcons Bills are playing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we're going to revisit the which quarterback

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Speaker 2: the Bears should have taken? With Jaden Daniels and Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams coming up tonight, I'm sure that that will be

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Speaker 2: the pregame festivities as they revisit that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, the Bills and Falcons have played thirteen times

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Speaker 4: so Bill's winning six, Falcons winning seven.

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Speaker 2: When's the last time they played twenty twenty two? Oh okay,

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Speaker 2: does seem random?

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Speaker 5: Though?

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Speaker 6: It does?

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Speaker 4: And since we've been doing this, they played five times

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Speaker 4: in the past twenty years.

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Speaker 2: All right, So you got baseball tonight, you got football tonight,

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Speaker 2: a doubleheader. And I'm looking forward to getting the college

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Speaker 2: football rankings now because now it starts to get real.

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Speaker 2: Now kind of where you are now, you can establish

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Speaker 2: your footing here when it comes to the playoffs. Indiana,

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Speaker 2: I mean, people might make a case for Indiana that

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Speaker 2: they're the second best team in college football. It'll be

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Speaker 2: Ohio State in Miami. But Indiana, Indiana. That was impressive.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody had a better win than Indiana had at Oregon?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. But that was impressive. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Ohio State was favored over Texas, weren't they in that opener?

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Speaker 2: I think a slight favorite, and they were home for

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Speaker 2: that game. Texas handled Ou. That was not a good watch.

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Speaker 2: I mean I watched it and John Mattier he wanted

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Speaker 2: to be back after breaking his hand.

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Speaker 6: He probably shouldn't have been back.

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Speaker 2: Bammatt squeaks by Missouri and Penn State fires James Franklin,

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Speaker 2: there'll be a lot of coaches to be interested in

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Speaker 2: Penn State, rightfully, So I mean that setting resources, the

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Speaker 2: talent that they've had there, and James Franklin will get

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Speaker 2: another job. But that was one of those where I

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Speaker 2: wasn't surprised, but there's still that shocked element of oh

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Speaker 2: my god, they did fire him. But when you're twenty

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Speaker 2: point favorites and you lose back to back games and

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Speaker 2: you don't have his on your side of winning big games,

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Speaker 2: but you just gave him an extension and now forty

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Speaker 2: nine million, that's it just felt like there was too

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Speaker 2: much money to fire him. And I think those are

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Speaker 2: the scenarios that we're going to be seeing more of

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Speaker 2: because these coaches want ten year contracts. But you know,

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Speaker 2: that golden parachute, I mean, that's what's better than gold.

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Speaker 2: I mean that that was that's a great parachute to have.

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Speaker 2: There was so much gold in his golden parachute. It

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Speaker 2: brought him all the way to the ground and he

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Speaker 2: got fired. But forty nine million dollars. We asked the

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Speaker 2: poll question, did he have a bad weekend? It was

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Speaker 2: like sixty percent of the audience said that he did

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Speaker 2: have a bad weekend Seaton.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Now it's at sixty three percent of the audience, so yes,

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Speaker 3: it's a bad week Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sunday night, it'll be Bjeon Robinson and the foulc taking

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Speaker 2: on Christian McCaffrey and the Niners primetime Sunday seven Eastern

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Speaker 2: on NBC and Peacock.

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Speaker 6: Hmmm, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to dress that one up a little

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Speaker 2: more than let me see if I can sell that

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Speaker 2: Sunday Night. Who would have thought they would be going

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Speaker 2: head to head, But you asked for it, you got it.

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Speaker 2: B Jeon Robinson and the Falcons take on Christian McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: and the Niners primetime Sunday seven Eastern on NBC and Peacock.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Todd, former division rivals back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well nobody remembers that, but you do, Thank you, Tod.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I also was wondering about the oversaturation of the NFL

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Speaker 2: and Thursday and then you have Sunday mornings, Sunday Night,

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Speaker 2: and then you got two games on Monday night and

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Speaker 2: then we're gonna have Thursday, and I think then we

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Speaker 2: know if the numbers how they bear out, you know, ratings,

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Speaker 2: if people are watching. I always thought Thursday night games

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Speaker 2: should have been standal loan holiday games, like Thanksgiving on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday, you know, something along those lines, not every Thursday.

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Speaker 2: But there's so much money out there. These owners aren't

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Speaker 2: going to turn down this kind of money. They'd be

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Speaker 2: crazy too. They're like, no, we'll keep giving them what

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Speaker 2: they want.

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Speaker 6: Oh, how about another game here, how about we have

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Speaker 6: games outside the United States.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do that as well. So you're just adding

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Speaker 2: a couple more billion billions of dollars to the bottom

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Speaker 2: line because you got Thursday Night, you'll get an eighteenth game,

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Speaker 2: You're going to have all of these games around the globe.

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Speaker 2: They're not turning down money for the betterment of the product.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, at the end of the regular season, when college

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Speaker 8: football's kind of on its hiatus between bowl games, when

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Speaker 8: there's NFL games on Saturdays, they're like, oh, let's go. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: they take that whole weekend if they could.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I hope that they stay away from Friday in college

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Speaker 2: football because I still want high school football to have

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Speaker 2: a standalone But we've seen more games with college football.

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Speaker 6: The NFL can't do it.

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Speaker 2: I think legally they can't play on Friday night, but

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Speaker 2: there's nothing like Friday night high school football. Yeah, Pauling.

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Speaker 4: I will say the Sunday morning games in Europe that

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Speaker 4: start at nine thirty Eastern and six thirty on the

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Speaker 4: West Coast, they're getting a little less special and more frustrating.

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Speaker 4: Sunday morning is kind of when you ease into your

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Speaker 4: football day and do other things. You got you got

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Speaker 4: ten hours if you start at one o'clock Eastern. Those

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Speaker 4: international games are getting a little less special.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Too often.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're rarely like shootouts where it's wild, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: It just feels like they're slugging it out. It's a

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Speaker 6: slog yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 8: Sorry Jets fans. So I'm watching it early in the

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Speaker 8: morning and my wife goes, oh, who's playing? Like wait,

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Speaker 8: she goes, are they playing live? With Yeah, ill, you

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Speaker 8: gotta watch the Jets live.

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Speaker 6: And it was it was a horrible game.

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Speaker 8: She was so disgusted.

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Speaker 2: And I immediately thought, how many games end thirteen to

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Speaker 2: eleven in NFL history? Because it was like, what a mess.

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Speaker 2: And then you get no offense from the Jets. Justin

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Speaker 2: Fields gets sacked nine times.

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Speaker 6: It's bad. Yes, Bronco's apologize.

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Speaker 7: It looked like both teams slept in and they forgot

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Speaker 7: the time zone of what time it was, and all

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Speaker 7: of a sudden they got to wake up, calling the

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Speaker 7: again on the bus.

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Speaker 1: We got to get to the game. It's starting.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, got my that's my helmet.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Pully, I have three games in NFL history that

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Speaker 4: finished thirteen eleven Lions Eagles in eighty six, Broncos over

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks, or Broncos losing to the Seahawks in eighty three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen to eleven. That's an odd one. Literally, it's

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Speaker 2: an odd one. Eleven and thirteen stay.

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Speaker 5: With me book prime numbers too.

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Speaker 6: Eleven, eleven, eleven.

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Speaker 7: And we were looking for a person's name there.

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Speaker 6: By the way.

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Speaker 2: The Passhole T shirts they sold out, and I told

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Speaker 2: you that you only had a couple of days to

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Speaker 2: get them, but we sold those out. We'll let you

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Speaker 2: know next batch of T shirts available.

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Speaker 6: Pass I'll do well.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess some people in South Bend showing up

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Speaker 2: on Thursday or Friday might have that T shirt on.

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Speaker 6: That's maybe very likely, and you did you know?

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Speaker 2: That whole conversation changed me of I'm so aware somebody

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Speaker 2: can be twenty yards behind me and I'm in the

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Speaker 2: aware of it far more than and I'm not one

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Speaker 2: of those. I'm staying here. And that's it. It happened

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Speaker 2: to me one time where I was going probably nine

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Speaker 2: going nine miles over and I didn't get over, and

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Speaker 2: he walked or he drove by, and he sticks his

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Speaker 2: hand out of the window window all the way down

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Speaker 2: so his finger was on the door, and he flipped

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Speaker 2: me off, and I went, okay, you know, I'm okay

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Speaker 2: with that. It wasn't a honk or anything. It was

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Speaker 2: just a I'm just gonna have you know. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: horns down, it was bird down. And he flipped me off,

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Speaker 2: and I went, all right, Yeah I deserve that, Yes, Tom,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you deserved that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah I did.

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Speaker 7: Now, you shouldn't tell the reason why he got all

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Speaker 7: upset is because well, he probably just went right back

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Speaker 7: into the left lane in front of you and kept

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Speaker 7: going twenty miles an hour pass to speed limit in

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Speaker 7: the left lane.

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Speaker 6: He did right.

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Speaker 7: It was because it wasn't about passing to get into

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Speaker 7: any other lane. You just want to stay in the

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Speaker 7: left lane and go ninety miles an hour till he

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Speaker 7: gets to his destination. I was my point from the beginning,

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Speaker 7: and you weren't blocking anybody. He was being a jerk

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Speaker 7: riding on top of you, almost creating an accident.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, we're not doing this. You know what,

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Speaker 6: passhole t shirts are going to be available to's point.

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Speaker 3: From the beginning of that has changed about that?

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Speaker 6: Yes, seven year times?

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Speaker 2: Hey, your point you had, Remember you had little old

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Speaker 2: ladies in the right lane, and you you offered up

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Speaker 2: different vantage points of your opinion on that todd in

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Speaker 2: fairness to the topic. You kept moving the goalpost because

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Speaker 2: you weren't winning that argue. Well, I'll try to win

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Speaker 2: that argument, and then I'll try to win that argument.

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Speaker 2: Mike and Wisconsin. Hi, Mike, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 11: What opdp? The best and worst? The best swearing the

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Speaker 11: birds thought they were gonna craft the bed and not to.

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Speaker 5: The clubs.

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Speaker 11: But the worst is absolutely the Wisconsin Badgers football program. Wow,

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Speaker 11: Luke Fickle needs to go the same way as James Franklin.

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Speaker 11: Thirty seven nothing against a mediocre Iowa team at home

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Speaker 11: on homecoming. He just needs to go away.

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Speaker 6: And you got Ohio State next week, don't you.

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Speaker 11: Oh, that's gonna be fifty seven enough?

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Speaker 6: Oh boy, Luke Fickle.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't he rumored to be up for the Ohio State

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Speaker 2: job prior to Ryan Day when he was at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Paula, Yeah, the timing didn't work out, so he

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Speaker 4: left Cincinnati to go to Wisconsin, which seemed like a

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Speaker 4: great hire for Wisconsin.

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Speaker 5: It was lauded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Wisconsin would always be there every year. It

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Speaker 2: gave us like Utah football. They were just there and

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Speaker 7: Make sure you're on record, Dylan.

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Speaker 6: How how about the greatest band that you don't like?

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Speaker 6: The greatest band you don't like? All right?

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Speaker 4: I never enjoyed any of Pink Floyd's music based mostly

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Speaker 7: We don't have to give it to the Beatles. Okay,

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Speaker 13: Well, I mean I'm gonna stick with the who Okay,

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Speaker 2: And it was more than just going to see a band,

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Speaker 6: Yeah my era over.

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Speaker 5: Shot a shot?

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Speaker 6: Yeah what?

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Speaker 3: And actually what we should take from this is the

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Speaker 2: after this from The Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award

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Speaker 7: But instead of us telling you how great we are,

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Speaker 6: Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.

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Speaker 1: Were interrupting our promo?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you wasn't talking about you. You took those clips

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you

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Speaker 1: Shut up.

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Speaker 2: John Smoltz, Hall of Famer Baseball on Fox lead analyst

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Speaker 2: Mariners and Jays got underway last night. First pitch tonight,

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Speaker 2: were just talking about respected bands, great bands, that you

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Speaker 14: think they look at it as a direct response. They'll

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Speaker 14: look at analytics, spin or velocity or just basically say,

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Speaker 14: third time through, I'm not even gonna let them get there.

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Speaker 14: And I think the managers that in this postseason have

446
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Speaker 14: let their player have a moment is winning the games,

447
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Speaker 14: meaning pitchers that are going into the eighth inning are

448
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Speaker 14: winning pictures that get taken out by fourth or fifth inning.

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Speaker 14: You start rolling the dice, and I'll be honest, the

450
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Speaker 14: Seattle Mariners are here because the greatest picture of our

451
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Speaker 14: generation was only able to go six innings. If he

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Speaker 14: goes seven innings, I don't think you can make an

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Speaker 14: argument that Seattle would be here. So they benefited from

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Speaker 14: all that work that they put in to file off

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Speaker 14: pitches and get his pitch count up.

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Speaker 5: I was watching that game. I was shocked.

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Speaker 14: But based on the ear, he's never pitched over one

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Speaker 14: hundred and five pitches. So Seattle is a benefactor from

459
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Speaker 14: what Toronto does very well and make your pitch count

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Speaker 14: go way up.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers have been relying on their starters, but it

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Speaker 2: feels like they have to because of that bullpin.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, it's a total flip of the script. Last year

464
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Speaker 14: they had no starters that they could count on, so

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Speaker 14: they relied on their bullpens guys, and they used them

466
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Speaker 14: and just really all of them got hurt. And now

467
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Speaker 14: they've established such a depth that is working in their

468
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Speaker 14: favor that you're seeing guys like Blake Snell first time

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Speaker 14: ever ever getting into seventh inning in a postseeding game.

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Speaker 14: I mean that to me is like, shouldn't be a narrative,

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Speaker 14: but it is. And I think now you're seeing again pictures.

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Speaker 14: At one point it was twelve and one. The pitcher

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Speaker 14: that went longer than the other pitcher, they won the game.

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Speaker 14: I know lately it has been a couple losses, but

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Speaker 14: I think teams are going to have to trust their

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Speaker 14: starters and know that they are having a moment and

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Speaker 14: don't look. I'll give you one sixty two analytical reasoning

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Speaker 14: and philosophy, I'll give it to you one sixty two.

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Speaker 14: It doesn't apply in a best of five and a

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Speaker 14: best of seven.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't.

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Speaker 14: It's just it doesn't work that way. And when you don't,

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Speaker 14: when you don't deviate, you're really running the risk of

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Speaker 14: that one sixty two model not working in a best

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Speaker 14: of seven because you never know if that one guy

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Speaker 14: is going to be on that that exceeds what he

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Speaker 14: would do in the regular season. If you'd never give

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Speaker 14: him that moment, I think you miss out.

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Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on Dave Roberts leaving Clayton Kershaw

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Speaker 2: in or having him come back for that next inning.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I saw from Afar. I thought that,

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Speaker 14: you know, Clayton Kersall what a moment. I just can't

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Speaker 14: even imagine the adrenaline and the rush that he was

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Speaker 14: going through. Knowing his careers over and he's had a

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Speaker 14: couple of those weird innings in postseeds in his history.

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Speaker 14: It really is hard to explain. But I think for

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Speaker 14: Dave Roberts and everything, that he believes and trusted his

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Speaker 14: team and that was a two to oh situation. Right,

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Speaker 14: if it's two to one, I think the things are different.

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Speaker 14: I know you say, oh, it's just one game, but

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Speaker 14: in a short series that could mean the difference. I

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Speaker 14: think he trusted what his team was capable of doing,

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Speaker 14: even if that didn't go well, and it certainly didn't,

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Speaker 14: and it it proved that, you know, the next game

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Speaker 14: they were able to handle and get that win.

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Speaker 2: Do you think like there's certain trends and we've spoken

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Speaker 2: about this, that you go in and throw as hard

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Speaker 2: as you can for as long as you can, then

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Speaker 2: next man up. That's basically pitching. But when it comes

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Speaker 2: to hitting, are we going to find more teams with

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Speaker 2: their best player leading off with success with Otani Kyle Schwarber.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have other teams that come

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Speaker 2: to mind that we're going to hit you right away.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get more at bats with my guy.

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Speaker 5: And that's where I kind of differ philosophically. One sixty two.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 14: You might get thirty five to forty more at bats

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Speaker 14: and your best player, and that might win you one

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Speaker 14: to two to three baseball games, which could be the

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Speaker 14: difference for some teams in the postseason. I still don't

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Speaker 14: get that because now you're not running the same models

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Speaker 14: in a bet best a seven series. How many more

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Speaker 14: at bats is Otani gonna get it to go seven

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Speaker 14: versus the second hitter?

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Speaker 5: And is that going to be enough to help him

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Speaker 5: win a game? Now, Toani's a freak. Let's leave him alone.

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Speaker 5: He's the leadoff hitter. He can hit for power, he

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Speaker 5: can steal.

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Speaker 14: But I'm talking let's just talk about Schwarber, you know,

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Speaker 14: not getting him into RBI situations. You look at Toronto

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Speaker 14: and how they're built. Guerrero bats in the three spot.

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Speaker 14: It's perfect for him. Imagine if Guerrero their best hitter,

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Speaker 14: are Bulprischett their best hitter.

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Speaker 5: Is leading off. Now, all of a sudden, you in

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Speaker 5: a short series.

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Speaker 14: As a pitcher, I have an advantage I think over

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Speaker 14: their best hitter because he's not gonna come up with

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Speaker 14: too many times with runners in scoring position.

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Speaker 5: So one sixty two again, I get it. I've never

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Speaker 5: understood it in a best of five. But that's the thing.

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Speaker 14: They never change. So if you do it the whole

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Speaker 14: regular season, you're going to do it in the postseason.

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Speaker 14: And that's like splitting hairs a little bit for me.

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Speaker 14: But I would you imagine Barry Bonds today, he would

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Speaker 14: be leading off. Thank you, thank you for a guy

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Speaker 14: who gave up nine home runs. Thank you lead off

547
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Speaker 14: home run.

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Speaker 5: I don't care.

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Speaker 14: Like those are the kind of things that in the

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Speaker 14: postseason when you're not giving your best hitter the chances

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Speaker 14: to get with runners on over the course of a season.

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Speaker 14: That's what that's my only argument about that. That narrative

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Speaker 14: that works in the one sixty two. Like Aaron Judge

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Speaker 14: batting second, he bet had in third a lot, But

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Speaker 14: Aaron Judge is another great example of putting him in

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Speaker 14: a spot to have fear factor for runners on.

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Speaker 10: And I get it.

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Speaker 5: You know, nine guys, you start your lineup the way

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Speaker 5: you want and then it never works that way the

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Speaker 5: rest of the game. I understand that.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody ever asked you to autograph a ball that

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Speaker 2: you gave up for a home run like the hit her.

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Speaker 6: As any you don't believe so so that that's no

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Speaker 6: go that you don't.

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Speaker 5: I would have done it, Oh, I would have done

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Speaker 5: it for sure.

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Speaker 6: So Bond said, hey, you know, I hit this one

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Speaker 6: off of you. Would you autograph this?

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Speaker 5: Oh? Sure.

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Speaker 14: Now I've seen the flip where Bond's at the All

571
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Speaker 14: Star Game, some pitcher came to ask him for an

572
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Speaker 14: autograph and he said, heck, no, you hit me twice.

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Speaker 5: I signed and nothing.

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Speaker 2: We're working on some Hall of Fame resumes. Dale Murphy,

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Speaker 2: Steve Garvey, Don Maddingly, Yeah, anybody else, anybody else?

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Speaker 6: Steve Garvey was a ten time All Star, Johnny.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, no, Steve Garvey was. I mean, when I think

578
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Speaker 14: of the Dodgers, I think of Steve Garby when I

579
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Speaker 14: grew up watching, you know, the seventies in the early eighties.

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Speaker 5: But they're all worthy.

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Speaker 14: And you know, I'm partial obviously to Dale Murphy and

582
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Speaker 14: what he did and how he did it was such

583
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Speaker 14: bad baseball teams, you know. I mean, that's one thing

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Speaker 14: that people don't take into consideration. Then of course you

585
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Speaker 14: got Andrew Jones coming up, who I think is surefire

586
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Speaker 14: Hall of Fame player who's yet to get in. But

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Speaker 14: Don Mattingly is one of the guys that everybody who

588
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Speaker 14: from New York talks about and how good he was,

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Speaker 14: and if he could have stayed healthier, the numbers he

590
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Speaker 14: would have put up, he would have thrived in today's era.

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Speaker 14: And that argument goes, I'll argue anybody that the Tony Gwinns,

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Speaker 14: the guys who did not hit for power, could have

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Speaker 14: thrived today because they don't swing, you know, from their

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Speaker 14: dairy air, and they would get on base a lot more.

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Speaker 2: But they would be swinging differently, John, because they would

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Speaker 2: be brought up differently. Tony gwyn would sure brought up

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Speaker 2: you got to swing hard, Wade Bogs, Rodkrue. Unfortunately, they

598
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Speaker 2: would be told, hey, this is what the analytics say.

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Speaker 5: True, unless they have the special gift like an arise

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Speaker 5: like there are we're seeing a shift. It's slow.

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Speaker 14: But the Toronto Blue Jays and the Milwaukee Brewers are

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Speaker 14: not flukes. And why they're here, They put the ball

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Speaker 14: in play, they don't strike out. If you look at

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Speaker 14: the last twenty five World Series champions, you're not going

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Speaker 14: to find three of them that are in the top

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Speaker 14: ten in my memory that we're leading the league in

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Speaker 14: strikeouts or in top ten of strikeouts. It's hard to do.

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Speaker 14: I know home runs are king, and I get it.

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Speaker 14: But when you can combine the both, which Toronto does

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Speaker 14: and Milwaukee does, it changes how team plays against you.

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Speaker 14: It changes the narrative of you're going to have to

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Speaker 14: work harder to get Toronto Blue Jays from eliminating them

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Speaker 14: from the series.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've been saying that put the ball in play, get

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Speaker 2: a walk, take an extra base, steal a bit like

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Speaker 2: all of these different things, and Milwaukee has done that.

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Speaker 2: They don't have star power, but it feels like they're

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Speaker 2: going to always be testing you and you're not. They're

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Speaker 2: not waiting for a beginning. It's just we're gonna it's

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Speaker 2: uh death by water torture. It's going to be drip, drip, drip, drip.

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Speaker 5: No doubt.

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Speaker 14: And we've already seen a game and unfortunately the young

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Speaker 14: you know, pitcher for Philadelphia. When you put the ball

625
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Speaker 14: in play, you never know what's going to happen. But

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Speaker 14: when you swing in this, you know what's going to happen,

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Speaker 14: and it's nothing, and and and again one sixty two.

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Speaker 14: They don't care how many strikeouts there are. But in

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Speaker 14: a postseason game, man, man on third, I've seen it.

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Speaker 14: We've seen the fifteen inning game. Just make contact. Game

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Speaker 14: over couldn't do it. And I think for Milwaukee that's

632
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Speaker 14: what makes them special. And they run, they field, they

633
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Speaker 14: have great arms, and they basically have drafted players that

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Speaker 14: fit the Mint narrative of how they're going to play,

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Speaker 14: and that's why they Nobody, there is not one expert,

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Speaker 14: not one baseball expert, said Milwaukee, you have the best

637
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Speaker 14: record in baseball leaving spring training.

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Speaker 5: Not one.

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Speaker 6: Did you cry at your daughter's wedding?

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Speaker 5: I did not. I did not, but I tell you

641
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Speaker 5: it was I had two of them this year, so

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Speaker 5: one more coming up in November.

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Speaker 14: But I definitely if I would have cried, if I'd

644
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Speaker 14: have played the accordion probably.

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Speaker 6: See I got three daughters. There is no way I

646
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Speaker 6: can get through this without crime.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 5: Well, I've been very fortunate to have some really good

649
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Speaker 5: son in laws and that helps.

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Speaker 2: And maybe you didn't care about your daughters as much

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Speaker 2: as I care about mine, so you're kind of.

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Speaker 5: A good part.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you were happy to get them out of

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Speaker 6: the house.

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Speaker 9: I get it.

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Speaker 2: I understand it. Don I understand it? Hey, have fun

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Speaker 2: on the call. Tell Joe we said hello and thanks

658
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Speaker 2: for joining us. Oh well, thanks Dan, all right, nks

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Speaker 2: John Smoltz, a nineteen ninety five World Series champ with

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Speaker 2: the Braves, and of course Hall of Famer. First pitch Tonight,

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Speaker 2: Game two from Toronto, five three Eastern on Fox. We'll

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Speaker 2: take a break, Last call for phone calls?

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Speaker 6: What we learn? What's in store tomorrow? This day in

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Speaker 6: sports history?

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Speaker 6: What we learn? What's in store tomorrow?

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Speaker 2: Is my math correct? Fifteen days ago, Penn State was

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Speaker 2: rank number three in the country. That sound about right, Siri? Yes,

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Speaker 2: fully yeah.

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Speaker 4: After week five, they were ranked third in the country

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Speaker 4: and had received five first place votes.

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Speaker 6: I like so, yeah, it's not scripted, just letting you

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Speaker 6: know this. This show is not scripted or we're geniuses.

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Speaker 6: Play the day's.

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Speaker 2: Stat of the day, brought to you by Penni America,

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Speaker 2: the official trading cards of the program.

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Speaker 6: And we'll be at Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Outside of Legends Bar Pub and that'll be Thirday and Friday.

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Speaker 2: First come, first serve, standing room only. That sounds like

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Speaker 2: we could say, oh, they're giving us a standing ovation.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we're not able to get chairs for you. But

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Speaker 2: standing room only makes it sound like there will be

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Speaker 2: people seated and there's only standing. It's only standing room,

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Speaker 2: standing ovations only, standing room only. Todd, do you have

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Speaker 2: what headlines for tomorrow?

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Speaker 7: I know we like to do the Monday night football headlines.

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Speaker 7: I just threw a couple together. If anybody wants to

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Speaker 7: chime in, I've got for the bills and falcons. I

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Speaker 7: just threw this together. Dirty birds wings get covered in

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Speaker 7: buffalo sauce, dirty bird's wings.

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Speaker 6: No, no, I got it. We don't have to pause

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Speaker 6: on every one.

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Speaker 7: And the other bills.

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Speaker 5: Falcons was a Pennix. Can't arouse them falcons offense?

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Speaker 6: Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 2: And then I had a couple of that's why you

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Speaker 2: didn't send it to PAULI, that's probably why. Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let me hear the Chicago do you have to do

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Speaker 2: the Penix one all the time.

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Speaker 7: Wasn't the exact one take, but there's always a take

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Speaker 7: off on a Pennix envy, I think a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: was different, Okay, Chicago Watcher taking command Jaden Jettison's bears

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Speaker 7: into hibernation and capital offense in DC A bad loss

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Speaker 7: for the win d City.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you're happy most of my best work, but no, no,

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Speaker 6: but you got to do it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I like to do the little headline thing.

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Speaker 6: No, you reminded me.

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Speaker 2: You you reminded me, and then you dropped the paper

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Speaker 2: right in front of me, and then, oh, there's my

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Speaker 2: mock headline.

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Speaker 5: I didn't want you to trip and fell on the floor.

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Speaker 5: It looked like you were to slip on the paper.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Todd. Jeff in Widby Island, Hi, Jeff, what's

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Speaker 6: on your mind?

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Speaker 7: Every gambling down?

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Speaker 12: That?

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Speaker 6: HOWI doing great?

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Speaker 15: Us best and worse the weekend? First of all, Seattle

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Speaker 15: Mariners would be is on is just northeast of Seattle

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Speaker 15: and spent half my half my time here. But he'd

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Speaker 15: become a big fan of them and the Seahawks for

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Speaker 15: that matter, so it was good weekend for them. Grew

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Speaker 15: up in Chicago, Coubbies loss with the potential for Coubbi's

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Speaker 15: and Mariners World Series. And I also have a dog

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Speaker 15: that was going to sing a belated birthday. I tried

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Speaker 15: to get get through on Todd's birthday last week.

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Speaker 6: I was unable to, so I don't.

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Speaker 15: I can't sing as well Todd does God forbid us all.

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Speaker 15: But I gotta do that to get him going, and

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Speaker 15: then he'll start singing.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, your dog is name is his name is Oliver? Oliver.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here's Jeff and Oliver singing a happy birthday

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Speaker 2: belated to Fritzy all the way from Whidby Island.

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Speaker 6: Right here we go, right okay, okay.

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Speaker 15: Birthday two, Happy Birthday.

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Speaker 9: Happy.

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Speaker 10: He usually does much much better than.

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Speaker 2: That, Jeff, were you stepping on Oliver's Paul felt like

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Speaker 2: he was kind of he was screeching.

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Speaker 6: He wasn't really singing.

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Speaker 10: He rolled out, he rolled over, so he he what

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Speaker 10: he does.

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Speaker 15: He marks a little bit and he starts howling like

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Speaker 15: a coyote, which is he's a little terrier mutt. But

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Speaker 15: it's funny when he really gets into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have been, but thank you, thank you, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Big build up, and I thought we were going to

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Speaker 2: have all right, it's gonna be one of those great moments.

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Speaker 5: I thought that counts. It was very cool.

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Speaker 6: You know what, maybe the dog did not want to

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Speaker 6: sing Happy Birthday to you.

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Speaker 7: It's very possible, but he's got his little pass whole

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Speaker 7: dog sweater on.

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Speaker 2: Probably probably stepped on his paw to get him, just

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Speaker 2: to make some noises there Don in Virginia.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Don, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Hey guys, what's happening?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. Don help me.

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Speaker 10: All right. Let me start out with saying five eleven

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Speaker 10: two o five and as far as a popular band

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Speaker 10: that a lot of people love that, I don't mineus Metallica.

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Speaker 10: The lyrics are it's just way too nihilistic for me.

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Speaker 10: I find Kirk Hambis to be a fantastic guitar player,

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Speaker 10: but songs.

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Speaker 6: Like Fade to Black and One.

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Speaker 10: Is just too dark and nihilistic for me.

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Speaker 5: I've just never really been into it.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Don.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't a Metallica guy, but I you know,

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Speaker 2: I was a little bit older, so i'd already had

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Speaker 2: heavy metal bands or you know, rock and roll bands.

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Speaker 2: Some Metallica came along and I'd be like, yeah, it's nice,

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Speaker 2: but there's other bands that preceded them that are a

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Speaker 2: whole lot better in my opinion, just.

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Speaker 6: My humble opinion. Let's see this Dane sports history, Paul,

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Speaker 6: Just a couple for you.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen sixty the World Series ended on a home

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Speaker 4: run for the first time. Bill Mazeroski, bottom of the

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Speaker 4: ninth Pirates beat the Yankees.

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Speaker 6: This is one for you, Dan.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty seven, the first game of the new ABA

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Speaker 4: was played. Pat Boone, the owner of the Oakland Oaks,

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Speaker 4: sang the national anthem, and in nineteen ninety eight, the

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Speaker 4: NBA canceled regular season games due to a work stoppage.

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Speaker 2: The team that the Oakland Oaks played in the first

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Speaker 2: ABA game was the Anaheim Amigos. The Anaheim Amigos, they're

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Speaker 2: not around anymore. Jaff in West Virginia, Hi, Jeff first time.

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Speaker 9: Long time six one, two forty and a couple. Best

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Speaker 9: for the weekend Seattle Detroit Friday night. Man, what a

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Speaker 9: heavyweight fight. It felt like watching them a boxing match

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Speaker 9: thirty years ago from the other side of the world

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Speaker 9: and you had to stay up late to see what happened.

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Speaker 9: And then of course Indiana going to Oregon on Saturday

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Speaker 9: and beating the Ducks. You know, non biased view on this.

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Speaker 9: I'm not a fan of any of these teams, but

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Speaker 9: they were just great matchups to watch. And then then

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Speaker 9: the worst of the week is really just the craziness

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Speaker 9: of college football. I mean, James Franklin, you just said it.

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Speaker 9: They were number one, they were top ranked a few

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Speaker 9: weeks ago, and thirteen to three last year. Now he's

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Speaker 9: looking for a job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just college football now, because things change

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Speaker 2: so rapidly, and you're going to get teams that weren't

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Speaker 2: great teams before or traditionally great teams, and they're going

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Speaker 2: to get a couple of players or somebody going to

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Speaker 2: spend some money transfer portal. I mean, they got a

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Speaker 2: great quarterback Mendoza, probably the leading candidate for the Heisman,

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Speaker 2: where you get him transferring in and maybe he's a

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Speaker 2: top ten draft pick. So these things change quickly, and

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Speaker 2: that's what we've seen. Let's go around the room. What

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Speaker 2: we learned, Todd would you learn today?

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Speaker 7: John Smoltz doesn't really follow bend. He's more of an

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Speaker 7: accordion type guy.

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Speaker 6: Seatan, What did you learn I'm sneaky massive? Yeah all right, yes, Mark?

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Speaker 6: What did you learn? Morvin?

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Speaker 8: The Steelers have a nice personality, but they're not hot.

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Speaker 6: Paul John Smoltz doesn't like music. Todd, What did I

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Speaker 6: learn today?

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Speaker 7: Gustin la loved USC taking down Michigan and says when

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Speaker 7: the Cowboys lose, America wins.

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Speaker 6: Thank you. I hope you had a great day, or

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Speaker 6: hope you're going to have a great day. Hope we

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Speaker 6: helped you have a great day.