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Speaker 1: a Apple. You're saying that humans need fantasy to make

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Speaker 2: I suppose best, relentless, refusing to give up. All right,

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Speaker 1: Very bless there and what is up?

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Speaker 3: Y'all? Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I am Samith Vidi,

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Speaker 3: a fantasy analyst here at the Action Network. We would

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Speaker 3: So today, I am so lucky to be joined by

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Speaker 3: the one and only Daniel Doubt, host of a The

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Show on ESPN, producer and co host of the

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Speaker 3: infamous Fantasy Focus podcast. He is here with me today.

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Speaker 3: Do you talk about everyone's favorite physician, which is running racks?

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Speaker 3: But before we jump into that. Daniel, How are.

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Speaker 1: You, Samantha, I'm good. How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm so stoked that you're here. I mean, I'm so

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Speaker 3: glad that we could get like time on your dance card.

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Speaker 3: I know it's off season, but still like it's it's

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Speaker 2: Time on my dance card if I if I see

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Speaker 2: your instagram correctly, like you wake up with your skis

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. I'm just like growing skis out of

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Speaker 3: I've become a whole like mountain woman out here. It's

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Speaker 2: But I snowboard. I've been simboarding for a while growing

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. As long as you have like

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Speaker 2: But like I don't think I can hang with a

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Speaker 3: It's been a really cool off season to just get

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Speaker 2: I am enjoying being outside, I have. I have really

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Speaker 2: I'm having like relationship and community and it is like

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Speaker 1: I go bowling a lot.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we try to Like I've been trying really hard,

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Speaker 3: been going through the prospects one by one as they

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Speaker 2: I am one hundred percent with you, especially with all

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Speaker 1: But man, the dude is quick.

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Speaker 2: You ran up under a four to fourth the combine,

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Speaker 3: Well, let us just dive into that as him as

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think he's a really talented running back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I look back at the combine and think

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say wait it too much, but

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Speaker 2: like I do love being able to see. Forty times

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Speaker 2: that actually had pretty poor forty times and how they might,

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Speaker 2: Think of hall Ooh okay, So player comparisons are not

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Speaker 3: I mean he's kind of back to fat Lenny right

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I know player concert kind of lame,

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Speaker 3: But I was thinking that realman, like mid sized, like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: So give me one prediction about Hall's year one for fantasy.

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Speaker 3: I like that. So I actually think his upside isn't

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Speaker 3: just like in a vacuum? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I am. I do think that is more ceiling.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm I fully share, we have we fully share

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Speaker 2: the concerns about the Jets from that aspet.

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Speaker 3: Are you buying or selling Hall at his current ADP

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Speaker 1: I am buying it.

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Speaker 2: I am buying it because if I can get him

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Speaker 2: you can start every week. He's not going to be

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Speaker 1: I just can't do it.

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Speaker 3: But speaking of range of outcomes, this Seahawks are pretty

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Speaker 2: This was really tough. This was really tough. I ultimately

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Speaker 2: he would like to go by Ken Okay, he didn't

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Speaker 2: I just heard that through the internets. But Chris Carson

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Speaker 1: Positive for them and this pick.

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Speaker 2: While I like, I love Ken Walker, He's my favorite

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Speaker 2: But because of that, it's got to be a bee,

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, at this point in the seat in

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Speaker 2: I think there definitely. I mean, as a part of it,

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Speaker 2: about you know, you just you got to follow the money.

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Speaker 2: You got to follow the draft capital those first couple

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Speaker 1: Included, like really actively me thinking of him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they very actively try to make these guys work

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I am with you. I'm gonna give them

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Speaker 3: So I could see that happening for sure. But you

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a Michigan bias, but no,

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a thing to be able to bake

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Speaker 2: But while they didn't utilize him in the passing game,

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Speaker 2: and everything that he brings to the table. He is

438
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 2: a guy that, regardless of the lack of pass catching ability.

439
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 2: For now, I want to pin that upon his college

440
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: offensive system and not on his inability to be able

441
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: to catch passes in the NFL.

442
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Speaker 3: I agree. I mean there are definitely some other guys

443
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 3: I could think of, maybe like Jonathan Taylor who didn't

444
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: do a ton of pass catching in college, and you know,

445
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 3: like has that impacted his fantasy no abilities? Like certainly

446
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 3: not so yeah. I got that has sixteen hundred rushing

447
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 3: yards and eighteen touchdowns last year. Obviously has that work

448
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 3: horse ability. The only marks that I feel like he

449
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: may lose is his stature. He's a little bit on shorter,

450
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 3: I think than the ideal sort of running back height.

451
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: So some people say that he profiles a little bit

452
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 3: more is that they'd down back, which, like, we just

453
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,479
Speaker 3: haven't seen a lot from him, So I think it's

454
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 3: just something that you know, there will be a little

455
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 3: bit of a learning curve going into the NFL, but

456
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,160
Speaker 3: I think he's certainly capable of it. So what running

457
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 3: back current are retired profiles closest to Walker? In your opinion?

458
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 2: I like, while not exact, I like a lot of

459
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: the Javante Williams comps that I've seen, the explosiveness, the mistackles,

460
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 2: the elusiveness. I think that when you get to when

461
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 2: you look at where this he's going to be towards

462
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: the end of the season, I think it has a

463
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: very good chance to be comparable to what Javonte Williams

464
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: was now.

465
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Speaker 1: Jevantay Williams had Melvin Gordon of him.

466
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: You know, Ken Walker has Rashad Penny and Chris Carson,

467
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: and this is not a shot at either one of

468
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 2: those two guys. But with health being the concern, I

469
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 2: could I could see if he comes in and gets

470
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: the opportunity and for a week or two is the

471
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Speaker 2: guy and runs well. Absolutely they would be like, hey,

472
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: we just can't take the kid off the field. If

473
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 2: he's playing well, then you're just going to keep rolling

474
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Speaker 2: with it. And I wonder if it gets to a

475
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: point where as the season wears on, as injuries happen,

476
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: as he potentially gets more touches within that offense, if

477
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 2: they like what they see and he continues to be

478
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: that guy, kind of like Javonte Williams was down the

479
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: stretch last year, more valuable towards the second half of

480
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,200
Speaker 2: the season than the first half of the season.

481
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Speaker 3: I could definitely see that as well. The only guy

482
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 3: that I came up with I love Javonte Williams. I

483
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: think that's a really great player, Calm. The only other

484
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 3: guy that I came up with was DeAndre Swift. Kind

485
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 3: of similar build by day two hundred and twelve pounds.

486
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 3: She's a little bit slower than Walker, but similar vertical

487
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: so I think they have similar bursts and similar skill sets.

488
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, like you said, maybe Walker wasn't used

489
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: that much in the passing game, but when he was,

490
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: he seemed to be confident at it, So I certainly

491
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: think he could profile like a Swift type of running back.

492
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Speaker 1: I'm a big Swift fan, by the way.

493
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: Is there any bias there too?

494
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: No?

495
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: No, none, not at all.

496
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: All right, So, giving you one prediction about Walker's year.

497
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: One for fantasy, ooh, Ken Walker will finish the season

498
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 2: as the highest ranked fantasy running back on the Seattle Seahawks.

499
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 3: I think that's a that's a very fair thing to say,

500
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 3: especially considering, you know, Rashan Penny had you know, almost

501
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: seven hundred yards in his final like five games of the.

502
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: Season, so he looked great.

503
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: But it's the same thing as the Jets, because like

504
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: how much it's so hard to be able to project

505
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: what I think that offense is going to look like

506
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: with freaking Drew Locke and potentially Gino Smith under center.

507
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: So it's you got to hedge a little bit when

508
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, he's going to be a top twelve

509
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: running back in that offense.

510
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

511
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what a QB competition scintillating. Really, it's the stuff

512
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: that sells papers, all right, So do you buy or

513
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: sell Walker at is current AEP of RB thirty nine?

514
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: Fine?

515
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: I am buying Walker because of the upside that you

516
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: can get there at running back thirty nine, given the

517
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: injury history of the two running backs that are in

518
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: front of him, and what you could have as a

519
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: running back down the stretch when you're looking at the

520
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 2: fantasy playoffs again, that Javonte Williams kind of thing, like

521
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 2: that is late enough that you're getting a guy that

522
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: could be a difference maker for you towards the tail

523
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: end of your fantasy season.

524
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I am absolutely in on him at RB thirty nine, Like,

525
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 3: I think that's what twelve spots later then you're going

526
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 3: to get Breessee Hall, and honestly, in most rafts, I

527
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: think significantly later. So certainly feel really good about that

528
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: because I think he offers just as much upside in

529
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: light of sort of the situations agreed, all right, so

530
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: onto James Cook. I personally love this move for the Bills.

531
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Speaker 3: Like I said, I was kind of hoping that they

532
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 3: would go for haller Walker earlier on just selfishly for fantasy.

533
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 3: But it's mutually beneficial for Cook. I think obviously minimal

534
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 3: competition on the Buffalo depth chart. I mean, Devlin's Singletary

535
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 3: is certainly good, but like they've clearly given up on

536
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: Zach Moss and I think like Devin Singletary profiles is

537
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 3: like the second guy, not the first guy. So do

538
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: you kind of do you pretty much agree that this

539
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: is an ideal landing spot.

540
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this.

541
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: I give this an a minus for James Cook. I

542
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 2: think he's another guy though, you know, and I hate it.

543
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: I sound like a broken record, And I don't mean to,

544
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: just like Hedge with everything, another guy that is difficult

545
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 2: to be able to project because his college usage was

546
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: just so minimal from in comparison to a lot of

547
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: these other types. Like when you talk about the last

548
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: two guys, they were heavily utilized by both of their

549
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: teams in college, right, James Cook just wasn't until his

550
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: final year. His final year he had one hundred and

551
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: thirteen carries and that was the most he had in

552
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 2: his entire career at Georgia.

553
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 3: Like he is.

554
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 2: You know, that's the part that I think is different

555
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: call for me to be able to try and figure out.

556
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 2: But his landing spot and what this Bills team need

557
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: and what it seems like his skill set is feels

558
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: like a really good fit for a Josh Allen led offense.

559
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean to your point. Yeah, he broke a

560
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 3: thousand scrimmage yards last season in his fourth and final

561
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: year at Georgia for the first time in his whole career.

562
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's obviously he was in a committee with

563
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: zmiir Way. We'll get to him later too, But yeah,

564
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: we haven't seen him have that workforce type role. He

565
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: profiles pretty well, like four four two forty thirty three

566
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 3: inch vertical jumps, so he certainly has that athleticism. But

567
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: and yeah, the landing spot is really ideal for me.

568
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 3: There's just not too too much going on there. Like

569
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, you got to assume that he's he takes

570
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: a lot of the goal line carries away, But I

571
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: think that there's going to be the volume and certainly

572
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 3: going to be game scripts that are going to allow

573
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 3: James Cook to have a lot of carries. So I'm

574
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 3: excited about that. But we've kind of talked a little

575
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: bit about the real player evaluation. But I don't know

576
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: if everyone knows this. I think everyone knows this. But

577
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: Cook comes from fantasy football royalty as the brother of

578
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 3: three time Pro Bowl running back Dalvin Cook. Are you

579
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: buying in on sort of this like connection link. Do

580
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: you think he can be as electric as Dalvin Cook

581
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 3: and make that kind of impact for fantasy So I.

582
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 2: Don't think I would use the word as electric as

583
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook only because they play differently, But I do

584
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: think the other words you used, I think that he

585
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: can be just as impactful, maybe not just as impactful

586
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: as his brother. That's like his ceiling really would be.

587
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: I mean, can Dalvin Cook's a top five running back? So,

588
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: but you talk about what his explosiveness is, what is

589
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: elusiveness is, especially within that Bill's offense in the way

590
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: that they could especially if they're they're spreading the ball

591
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 2: around there. I am very much in on James Cook

592
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: and his size here's the thing. This is not about

593
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: like small running backs. But Devin Singletary is five to

594
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: seven two hundred, give or take, and James Cook is

595
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 2: five eleven two hundred, so he's got a full four

596
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: inches on him, doesn't have as much, you know, the

597
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: size is about the same. But I do think that

598
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: he just projects as a better three down potential potential

599
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 2: because we don't know because we didn't see enough of it,

600
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: but potential three down running back in the NFL, and

601
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: if nothing else, a really good pass catcher for that team.

602
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: But I think there's at least a shot that you know,

603
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: he has the ability to I'm there's a spoiler alert.

604
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna skip to my count. I like he

605
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: has the kind of skill set that I feel like

606
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: could be like an Alvin Kamara liked type of a

607
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: player in this Bill's offense. With his potential, you know,

608
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: the ability to be able to both run and catch

609
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: the pass. We haven't seen a lot out of it,

610
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, Dalvin Kamara was also a later round pick.

611
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: But the ability within this.

612
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Bill's offense to take advantage of the opportunities that are here,

613
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: I think is is really high for James Cook.

614
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone does talk about him as that kind of

615
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: pass catch threat, but it certainly feels like in that

616
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 3: running back room, which is not super high powered, it

617
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 3: certainly feels like he has the opportunity to become that

618
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 3: every downback. People do talk about his size, but he's

619
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 3: not like a tiny guy. Yeah, we're not talking about

620
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: like a Clyde Edwards Dealer's type size or anything like that.

621
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: But in terms of player com I'm right there with

622
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: you with Alvin Kamara. That is certainly a guy that

623
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 3: I chose. Here. Give me one prediction about Cook's year

624
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: one for fantasy.

625
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: Uh, here's a prediction with his passing game usage.

626
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: His floor is a deeper lea flex play, but his ceiling,

627
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: if anything happens to Devin Singletary, I think, is a

628
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: top twelve running back in the NFL.

629
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, that's I mean, that's a pretty

630
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: wide range of outcomes a lot of these guys. I mean, certainly,

631
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: as we're getting down here, like at this point, three

632
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: running backs in like will require a injury to someone

633
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: for them to be really relevant. But I do think

634
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 3: he will be relevant on his own, maybe not like

635
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: a guy that you're starting every week. But certainly will

636
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: have moments where you're going to start him. I think

637
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: you know, I put him in that kind of RB

638
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: three tier right now, so I think he, as with

639
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 3: most rookies, he's going to carry more value in dynasty

640
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 3: key performance than redraft. But are you buying or selling

641
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: him at his current ADP of RB forty four.

642
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: I am buying at forty four.

643
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

644
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: I like again the upside of what he could be

645
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 2: in this offense and knowing that they are basically just

646
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: out on Zack Moss and it's him and Devin Singletary,

647
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: He's going to have the opportunity to come in and

648
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: really grab at least the number two position here, if

649
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: not be able to showcase what it is that he

650
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: can do, and we'll see what happens from there for

651
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: the rest of the season.

652
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he was a solid prospect and it's

653
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: just like the landing spot puts like the bow on

654
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: the package. So I am buying him at RB forty four.

655
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question really quickly, if Devin

656
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: Singletary were to get hurt or playing time we're to

657
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: become available, what do you see as his potential upside?

658
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: Like he's the RB one in Buffalo.

659
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: Do you see him being a top fifteen guy, a

660
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: top twelve guy, a top ten guy.

661
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: I could see him being definitely in that RB two range.

662
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: I'm not ready to say top twelve, just because I'm

663
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: just not sure that they're going to run him into

664
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: the ground, Like, like, I don't know that his whole

665
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: game and body profiles as like that guy that they're

666
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: going to give three hundred touches to that many touches

667
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: too in one season. But that said, you know, like

668
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: I do think that there is certainly high upside. And

669
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: it is his first year too, so like it's like

670
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: we're we're not totally sure what he's going to look

671
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 3: like in this scheme. So I'm going to be a

672
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: little bit more conservative and say RB two, But I

673
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: like that take going pretty spicy into that top twelve.

674
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: All right, we will move on to Rishad White of

675
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: the Buccaneers. So this is an interesting landing spot as well,

676
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: because even with Lombardi Lenny on the roster, the Bucks

677
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: are pretty ideal. Right, Like, I'm giving them an A minus.

678
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: What's the U?

679
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: So I gave this a I hate to sound bland,

680
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: but I gave this a B and a part of

681
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: this is just because I don't know who Leonard Fournette

682
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: is going to be or what he's going to be

683
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: for the next two to three years with this potentially

684
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: Tom Brady led offense. But as long as he's the

685
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: guy there and Tom continues to trust him, like, I

686
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: don't think that's going to change. And I think whre

687
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: child White would be what I believe this team was

688
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: hoping Giovanni Bernard or Keishawn Vaughn would have turned into,

689
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: or even Ronald Jones would have turned into with that

690
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: number two compliment of somebody that they could trust and

691
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 2: use a little bit more than those guys. And I think,

692
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 2: especially from a fantasy perspective for us, like I think

693
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: he has the option, especially as a pass catcher too,

694
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: to be better. But Leonard Fournette is clear barn Away

695
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: the guy in that offense. Brady loves him, and as

696
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: long as Tom Brady loves a running back because pass

697
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: blocking is such a big thing for like, that factor

698
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: is into this. So the idea of a rookie coming

699
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: in and being there at least for the first year

700
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: or two, you know, I think it projects just slightly

701
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: lower to me because of that, I.

702
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 3: Think you've just triggered everyone in the Dynasty community.

703
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: With Vaughn, I'm sorry, well very.

704
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 3: Painful, just a guy that obviously was a third rounder

705
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: fellow third rounder in twenty twenty, complete non factor in

706
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: the buzz run game. But I mean I agree with

707
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: you that Furna is going to continue to be the

708
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 3: focal point of this run game, obviously coming off of

709
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 3: a banner year almost thirteen hundred at all purpose yards,

710
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: ten touchdowns lost. Ronald Jones, though, I think that there's

711
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: room on this depth chart. I thought that going into

712
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 3: the draft, like they just they did need to add

713
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: depth there, Like maybe Lenny's the guy right now, but

714
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: I feel like there has to be someone else too.

715
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: And to your point about Walking, I know there have

716
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: been certain report arts that have said that he's not

717
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 3: maybe the best blocker and that could limit his just

718
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: field time in general, Like if they don't feel comfortable

719
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 3: with his blocking, he's not gonna be out there. So

720
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: that makes me a little concerned. But in terms of

721
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: the landing spot, I think it's pretty good all things considered.

722
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: He's not entering a situation where there's like five mediocre

723
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: guys or whatever.

724
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: So and heaven forbid he lands up on a Tom

725
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: Brady led like really high scoring offense, you know what

726
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 2: I mean, Like it could be worse, hey, and there.

727
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: Will be targets to go around now that Rob Gronkowski.

728
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: Has gone, oh that's right, yeah, and just.

729
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: Like you know, like I feel like there's potential here,

730
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: but certainly he has to show it and make that

731
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: rapport with Brady because he's a type of guy that

732
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: you need to have that connection like Leonard Foorda has

733
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 3: with him, and that could take time. But in terms

734
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: of your general player evaluation of him, he's he's very athletic,

735
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 3: has the build to make it in this league. Do

736
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: you do you make anything of him being twenty three?

737
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's ancient, right. We have to

738
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: also take into account there's like a COVID year two

739
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: that impacted people's ages here, So I don't want to

740
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 3: make it into anything more than.

741
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: It has to be, right, No, But that's the thing

742
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 2: when you factoring that in and you realize that, like

743
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: normally a kid that you would take is going to

744
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: be a year younger than this, but the year that

745
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: we had it didn't didn't necessarily work out that way,

746
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: so doesn't make me nervous. It all depends upon I

747
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 2: think the coaching staff that he's going to have. And

748
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: I wrote here it's underlined really good body.

749
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I.

750
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: Can say that, but I just I really like he does.

751
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 2: He has an NFL ready body, yes coming in. I

752
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: really like that about him. And so if he can

753
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: improve the past blocking based on what the reports are,

754
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: I think he has a really good chance to be

755
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: super useful. Almost fifteen hundred total yards and sixteen touchdowns

756
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: in eleven games in his final year in college, so

757
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: he was averaging over one hundred yards and a touchdown

758
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: total yards and a touchdown every single game four four

759
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: eight forty and so he's got enough to be able to,

760
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: you know, do some damage.

761
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: I do like him in that offense, but it's uh.

762
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see what happens with Giovanni Bernard because

763
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: he has been a very competent backup running back, especially

764
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: as a pass catcher and a pass blocker.

765
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: That is what he is known for.

766
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: So if if as a part of this resid why

767
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: I can learn from those guys and step up, like

768
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: I think he could be useful. But a little less

769
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: fantasy value in this first year or two in my.

770
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: Opinion, Yeah, he seems more like an insurance policy at

771
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: this point, the for Leonard Fournett managers versus a guy

772
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: that's going to have immediate standalone value. But I certainly

773
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: think his role could grow as the season progresses. But

774
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: to your point, I mean, he is the largest prospect

775
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: that we have spoken about today, six foot two, fourteen

776
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: and at that size still running a four fourty eight forty,

777
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 3: so certainly an athletic physical specimen. What running back comes

778
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: to mind when you think of him, I.

779
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: Don't think I have one, if I'm honest.

780
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: I was looking through trying to find the right thing

781
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: to be able to compare him to, because there were.

782
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: So I have a bunch of notes up.

783
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: And I was a couple, and I'm going to ask

784
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: you if you like either of them. All right, grant

785
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: my feelings won't be hurt. But I have Melvin Gordon

786
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 3: and Jamal Williams both in that six foot two, fifteen

787
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: to twelve range, maybe a little slow, but similar forty

788
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: sort of times. So that's that's sort of like where

789
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: my brain was going, and I like, certainly that physical

790
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 3: build of of those type guys.

791
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm being on fantasy pros right here. I do

792
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: think it's really interesting to say his sixteen percent target

793
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 2: share is absolutely bonkers for running back at the college level,

794
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: Like he was just an unbelievable pass catcher.

795
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that translates.

796
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: Take that like Jamal Williams type role that we've seen

797
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 3: him have in previous years. So yeah, give me one prediction.

798
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: We I mean, yeah, we kind of already spoiled this,

799
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: but give me a prediction about why it's year one

800
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 3: for fantasy. Obviously I'm super rosy on him at this point.

801
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: No, but that's all right, I think even so, like

802
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: he is the my prediction would be he's the number

803
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: two running back in Tampa from a fantasy standpoint, if

804
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: that's what you're you're looking at. And I think that

805
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: if you wanted to have an insurance back to Leonard Fournette,

806
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: he's the clear guy that I would grab because of

807
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: the upside.

808
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: Giovanni.

809
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: Bernard isn't going to just step in and be a

810
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: three down back, and Keisha and Vaughan got.

811
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 3: That dot Bournette is twenty seven and under a short

812
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: contract right now, so you know, it could definitely happen,

813
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: but for this year, I'm not super high on him.

814
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: So are you buying or selling him in his current

815
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: ADP of RB fifty three?

816
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, honestly, at this point, right running back

817
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: fifty three is so late. I would take most of

818
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: these guys just based on potential upside of if the

819
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: right thing happens here. Rashad White, running back fifty three.

820
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 2: You tell me that in week eight Leonard Fournette gets

821
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: hurt and is going to miss six schemes. You know,

822
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: I obviously he immediately becomes worth it. And I know

823
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: you already said this. A lot of these guys we're

824
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 2: talking about, You're looking for that path to be able

825
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: to get onto the field, and that would either happen

826
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 2: usually at that point, you know, through injuries or something

827
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: like that. But I, like I I think I would

828
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: buy him, But like I can't ever imagine a week

829
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: where I am starting him unless until I start to

830
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: see it.

831
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: But then some happens a Leonard Fournette.

832
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: You now have the number one running back again and

833
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: a Tom Brady led offense that's going to potentially score

834
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: you know, fifty plus passing touchdowns again this year, so

835
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 2: there's at least value.

836
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: All right. My last question to you is can you

837
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: give me your top three for redraft? Not as exciting

838
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 3: as it has been for other positions, but I assume

839
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: I know your top two.

840
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so top two for redraft.

841
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 2: First one is Breeze Hall, the second one is ken Walker,

842
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: and the third one is very definitely going to be

843
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: James Cook.

844
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 3: I like that. Yeah, I'm gonna go haul Walker Cook

845
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: for redraft. That's pretty firm. And then I feel like

846
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: it's pretty much the same. But I could make an

847
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: argument for White just because I don't know how long

848
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: letter for and it's going to be around, so I

849
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: could see that being good. I could also see White

850
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: being keyshan Von two point out. So there's a lot

851
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: of outcomes here, But all right, that will do it

852
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: for this absolute unit of rookie running backs. Daniel, I

853
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: cannot thank you enough for taking the time to join

854
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: us on the show today. Please let us know where

855
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: everyone can find you this offseason and beyond, as if

856
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 3: they don't already now.

857
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can find me at Daniel Dopp on Twitter,

858
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 2: on Instagram. I am at something to Break and you

859
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: can see me on ESPN doing some stuff with like

860
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: you said earlier, the Fantasy Show with Matthew Berry we're

861
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: planning in another episode coming out here in a couple

862
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 2: of weeks. And then the Fantasy Focused Football podcast with

863
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: Matthew Field, Stefana and Mike Clay.

864
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: We have a ton of fun.

865
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: We're doing that every Monday right now until we get

866
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: to August second. So we are live every Monday at

867
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: two pm Eastern on YouTube, Twitter, the ESPN app, ESPN's

868
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: Fantasy Facebook, and you can listen to us wherever you

869
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: find your podcasts. So yeah, that's where you can find

870
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: me and Sam. I just want to say, I know

871
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 2: I said this before the show. I'm so stoked to

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Speaker 2: be able to do this. We've been friends for a

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Speaker 2: long time. We met at a Fantasy Focused show a

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Speaker 2: long time ago when you DMed Matthew about being able

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Speaker 2: to come because your boyfriend at the time wasn't going

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Speaker 2: to go to a fantasy show with you, and so

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Speaker 2: you're like, yo, I don't have anyone to go with

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Speaker 2: and we ended up becoming buddies. Like you, Me, Matthew, Stefania,

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Speaker 2: and I have been so stoked to watch you grow

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Speaker 2: and get so good and see what you have become

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Speaker 2: within this industry and being able to like have your

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Speaker 2: own show and be a guest on your own show. Now, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you and I'm so stoked to

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Speaker 2: be able to do this and have you as a

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Speaker 2: colleague in our industry.

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Speaker 3: That was such a fun experience. It was like, oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh, because I like ended up having Matthew do

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Speaker 3: my waivers for my IDP league that night at Dude

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Speaker 3: and Seas show, Like what a whek. A weird night,

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Speaker 3: but it was so much fun. I'm so glad that

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Speaker 3: we are friends. Thank you so much again for coming on.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget to rate and review our podcast for a

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Speaker 3: chance to win a free pro account and if we

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Speaker 3: listen to you next time on the Fantasy Flex. Peace

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Speaker 3: hot y'all.