WEBVTT - AN RTT SPECIAL EVENT: A DIFFERENT WORLD REUNION 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.720 Hey, fam I'm Jada Pinkett Smith and this is the 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:06.080 Red Table Pop Podcast, all your favorite episodes from the 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.280 Facebook Watch show in audio, produced by Westbrook Audio and 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:13.360 I Heart Radio. Please don't forget to rate and review 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:18.520 on Apple Podcasts. It's a Red Table Talk event with 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.919 a very special reunion after thirty five years. The stars 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:26.000 of a Different World are coming together right here at 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:30.080 the Red Tables a special. It was a groundbreaking series 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:37.000 that inspired generations and launched countless careers, including Mine Heilman 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:44.159 home Coming kicks off in five chop pleadings four, three eights, 0:00:44.560 --> 0:01:06.360 two one. Come on out, God, this is so beautiful. 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:12.160 I found him in another country. This is like in 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.399 a different world. Burst onto the NBC's must see TV lineup, 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:22.160 Change to make it. The ratings were huge, with tens 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.800 of millions tuning in each week. It was a spinoff 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:29.920 of The Cosby Show, following Denise Huxtable's life at Hillman College, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:34.720 a fictional version of a historically black college. The Brilliant 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:39.200 Jasmine Guy played Whitley Gilbert, the opinionated Southern bell who 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.480 was bad and bougie before there was bad and Bougie 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.760 And the next time you got me a panther, Bougie, 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.920 Princess Julien. It prepared for a damn how may Kadeem 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.560 Hardison was Dwayne Wayne with those trademark flip up glasses 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:56.160 who made it cool to be smart. I quit, I 0:01:56.280 --> 0:02:01.960 quit with the legendary b Allen was the creative genius 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.760 behind the show. She's won five Emmy's, a Golden Globe 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:10.880 and has given wings to many careers, including mine. A 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.920 Different World was laugh out loud, funny, took on tough 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:19.200 topics and welcome to iconic guest stars like Halle Berry, 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:24.800 Whoopie Goldberg, Diane Carroll, Patti LaBelle, Lena Horn to Pop 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.480 and more. We got missed Debbie here. We're gonna start 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.600 with you first. I want you to I want you 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:32.840 to tell us what it was like the first time 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.920 you met Debbie. Oh, well, the first time I met Debbie. 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:38.680 I mean, like most of us had watched Debbie on Fame. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.119 She was like the proto type, you know what I mean. 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:43.880 I was like, I want to be able to do that. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:49.120 I want to be able to sing dance that. I 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:54.359 want a triple quadruple threat. So when I first got 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.080 to meet Debbie, it was crazy because I came to 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:03.040 audition for a guest are just a guest role? The 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.000 age episode? She walked in, Wait, let me just say this. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.200 She walked in, she already had all that, and I said, wow, 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.440 you are a wonderful So where you I'm the next 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:20.919 Debbie al I'm like she said it said, and I 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:25.400 loved her from that minute. I said her now, so 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.000 I said, let's make a series regularly. She sure did happened, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.240 But I mean, what what a dream come true? To 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.880 be seen by somebody you had idolized and she sees 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:39.400 me right away so much so she was like, we're 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:44.120 gonna put you on this show. She recognized she did, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.320 but I think she did for both of us. Yeah, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.920 so just tell your story. Yeah, I tracked a debt 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.920 be down. I was at the school. I'm glad I 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.640 didn't know any better. I was very naive just to 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.680 think I could go see her. It was an eight 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:06.160 hour dance audition. Yeah, fam was like that. And let 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.160 me tell you, I never danced so good. I looked if, 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.760 I said, is that my foot? All I knew was 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.240 I gotta get this part. You know. I wanted to 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.360 be on that show and work with you so bad, 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.120 so I became the ninth dancer. Yes you did, but Debbie, 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.839 you have started so many careers, and all my career. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.520 Whenever people told me no, oh you're a dancer, you 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.960 can't be an actress, or you're a comedian, you can't 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.680 do drama, or yeah, I was like, did whatever you 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.280 say I can't do? She already done it that part. 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:40.320 And that's the thing that'd be just she could see us. 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.080 We were all her children. This one was my child 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.839 from way back when he was a little boy. I 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:52.000 went to my mom took me to the theater um 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.880 and afterwards she knew Debbie. So we went back to 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:56.880 Debbie's house for like a little after party, and I 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.400 must have been like, because I remember you jumping on 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:05.400 my water. Codeine went on to become an actor. He 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.120 and Debbie didn't see each other for many years, and 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.680 then we were already on a different You were already there, 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.400 and she came the second year and didn't remember. You 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:22.320 know what happened? Was he grown? I said Hi? He said, 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:28.000 it's me Debbie. Me, it's me Cadeine. Then I said, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.560 oh my god, you Mike Codean. I didn't know till 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:34.080 just until we had that moment. But then that was 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:39.400 so good. We were all so yeah, we would look 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:44.359 like that baby. You remember she had her birthday on 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.640 the set and she was like eighteen. That said, how 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:49.600 old are you? Like? Why am I hanging out with 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.440 no idea? She was that young? Yes, I was a baby. 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.920 You were so grown. You look like a baby when 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:04.080 I look at it, I willow. Yes, yeah, it's all 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.880 rebellious and just young and grown. But it was great. 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.560 Think about those stories we did a different world's groundbreaking 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:15.560 episodes were ahead of its time, taking on controversial topics 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:22.880 that are still relevant today like domestic violence, sex. How 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.440 did you know it was time to be weird? That 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:30.960 from one team? Pregnancy, aids, consent and race. You know, 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.680 it doesn't matter how many degrees I get. All you 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.880 people see his color. I was thinking about Mammy DearS 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.760 because you were the one that told Weddley that her 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:44.480 family had owned slaves. Yeah, that was one of my favorite. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.120 And then everybody was really having a meltdown off camera 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:52.599 for real. Imagine coming from an African American family that 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:57.680 owned over one hundred slaves. They are my space some mistake. No, 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.560 this doesn't look like in the stage. It's a reproduction 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:04.840 of a bill of sale. Your great great granddaddy had 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.040 just bought ten new slaves that he was a freeman 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:13.320 of color, but he was also a black master. But 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:19.080 why not. I didn't know that black people owned other 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:23.400 black people. Only if you did. Now we know why 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:29.800 you're so bossy. It's d n a them, no good ancestor. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.880 I still get a cheer from this. Look at your 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.120 little face. It was really hard. It was hard. And 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:40.280 when we embraced it, and then we changed that around 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:44.760 because you were dancing. You made me do African dance. 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:52.640 I don't want you gonna dance. You went back to 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:57.800 the motherland. You're gonna You're gonna be all right. And 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.840 then she put me in that little I was like, heavy, bladdy, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:06.480 come on, stop it. Let them see everything. That's how 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.240 you were. You were like, you're gonna be fine. Now, 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.120 I'll come on. Now, I'll stop it with all that. Now, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.360 come on, want to three, let's go. I remember when 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.920 you came. I was a little jealous because you brought 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:21.760 that that energy, that edge. I was like, damn, she 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:28.240 gets to be home attitude. She was like at the police, 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:33.440 that is the beauty everybody was coming from a different 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.760 place and engage such a real view of who we 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.560 are as the people. Absolutely, we don't all think alike, 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.000 we don't look alike, don't think alike, but at some 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.280 point we come together, because at some point we have 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.199 to come together. Absolutely. I want to ask you, Debbie, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.280 because it seems like when you came on the show, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.439 the flavor of the show changed definitely. I mean, that's 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.480 why they brought me. Actually, I had come from Fame 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.480 and then I got this call from Carson Earner and 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:03.079 Bill Cosmi, we need you to come over here and 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.120 look at it different world because I had gone to 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:07.760 Howard and I don't know if anybody else had really 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.880 gone an HBCU. So I brought that experience in that reality. 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.199 So we just had to put hot sauce on the table. 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:17.040 We had to make it real because the Black University 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.120 College voice is strong. Yeah, I gave my two weeks 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.080 noticed during the first series before I said yeah, because 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.960 you were oh yeah, it was Booty. I was like, 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.600 I don't want to be in this anymore, and and 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.640 I didn't like the way they were treating the cast, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.400 and so I went in there and I said, thank 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:37.679 you so much for this opportunity, and I've I've learned 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.560 so much and they're probably like, Okay, well did something 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:44.480 happen to you? I said, well, you know, I feel like, uh, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:49.160 Lisa bon is disrespected in front of the audience. Well, 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.360 has it ever happened to you? I said, if it 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.920 happens to her, it happens to me. You're disrespecting the cast, 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.920 You're disrespecting some bad It doesn't have to happen to me. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.680 I felt like it was happening to me. I thought 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:06.760 we could leave. You didn't read print that said six years. 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.360 We have you for seven years. This was a time 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:12.480 where there was the separation between the writers and the actors. 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.120 If they said oh instead of ah, they had to 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:17.520 stop the cameras and do it again. I worked really 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.280 hard to break down that barrier between the writers and 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.400 the actors day one. So you gave the cast a 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.199 voice that I gave them a voice, and you felt 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.160 like you didn't have a voice before. We just get 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.000 your blinds, do the best and hope they don't make you. 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:37.120 We were filming till one in the morning. I was like, 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.040 why are we doing this again? I don't even know 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.360 what I'm doing wrong, Like why are we just doing 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:45.160 things over and over until the if it was funny? 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.720 At any point it was gone, well, i'll tell you what. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.040 By the time I got there, it was already a 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:53.400 groove happening because we go to Debbie and go, this 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.640 is not working. No, Debbie, can we do this? Like 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.680 I felt like I had a voice, so going anyplace 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.000 else and not having a voice was like, what, wait 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.160 a minute? Did I learned the hard way on other sets, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:06.640 I was like, oh, actors don't like to get notes 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.640 from the other actors. Because Kadem and I talked about everything. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.640 It was like this didn't work and this funny blah 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:16.119 blah blah. But when I did that with other actors, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.240 there was a brace and I said, oh, I didn't know. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.640 I wasn't supposed to listen. I have to say that 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.800 I remember the first time watching a different world and 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:29.600 looking at you and saying, you can do that, And 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:34.160 then I remember the day that she was gonna premiere 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.200 on the show. I can remember sitting in the living 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:42.600 room with my family, Uh, we got a flag girl, 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:53.160 Reach here nine Lina James class. I really liked the 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:58.000 way that sounds. I was so excited. I was so 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.800 excited for her. I'll just never forget. I mean, just 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.840 the whole thing, Debbie, just the whole thing. It was 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:10.160 just amazing because when she auditioned and she said she's 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:15.559 gonna write apart from me, I was like, what, Yeah, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.520 we owe everything to you. You don't owe me because 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:21.440 she walked in. Ready. That's what it is. That's the 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.800 thing that young people need to understand. They need to 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.520 train the young people today. They're watching TikTok that last 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:30.160 ten seconds they do this? Do they have craft? I 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.680 remember hiring somebody that was a dancer who was on 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.720 the competition circuit. That child could not dance past one minute. 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.800 He needed a respiraate to child. He was not in shape. 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.760 He was just used to doing his best seconds. That 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.240 was it, right, But Debbie, that's such an important point 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.960 for Instagram talent, TikTok talent, a lot of talent out there. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.920 But you're right, it's gotta it's gotta go further than 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:59.160 that minute. And can you do a ten twelve hour day? 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:04.360 Can you do eight shows a week? Break it down? Yes, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:08.920 you introduce yourselves to us, but now what now? What jazz? 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:13.080 What would you say? Your favorite moment was There were 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:17.320 many moving moments because there was a lot of um 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:22.920 real feelings in our episodes, and I was happy that 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.840 we could be funny, of course, but I love the 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:29.600 more meaningful shows and real issues. And even though my 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:35.160 character was a lot younger than me, I was like parallel, 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.720 Like when I got married, there was things happening in 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.280 my personal life. I was breaking up with Dominant, so 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:50.160 there were always like this kind of juxtaposing situations. But 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.480 we were are professional, didn't let things affect the work, 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.280 but we were going through things, you know what I mean. 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.079 There were real life was happening, and we were kind 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:01.480 of growing up to other two because none of us 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.760 were from LA and didn't have like roots, Like I 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.960 felt like that was my family. You know. I can 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:11.640 relate to that to Jasmine because even me sending Jada 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:15.880 to come out to California, I was back in Baltimore 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:19.640 just getting myself together right in my recovery process. I 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:24.760 was very early on, but I felt safe knowing that 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.880 Debbie was there. We talked to you a lot about stuff, Debbie, Yeah, 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.560 you know, and I felt like you you had Jada's back, 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.280 and that was important for me. Very important important for me. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:38.800 I know she had her hands full with just me alone. Like, 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:47.960 but you had a very adventurous life, but you were 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:52.120 always so patient. You would never judgmental, You would never like, look, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.160 you need to get your together, but you would just 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.120 be like, now, look, you know you got a nice future, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:08.080 that opportunity. Let's just let's try to stay focused. What 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.040 about you can deem? Did you have a special episode 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.680 or a particular episode that really stuck out always, like 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.080 all the deep stuff. Yeah, like we did the racism 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:24.280 episode where he sprayed and word on and I had 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:28.160 to deal with that dude. This acting you hired. This 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:34.840 dude was so strong and grabbed me and pushed me 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.560 against the wall. If you see it, you can see 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:44.880 the set shake the only way like a hundred and seventeen. Yes, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:52.280 through all I went flying, think you are brother, come 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:54.880 around here acting, Let you all that I'm taking care 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:57.640 of my boy. Shoot what I'm saying. My father wasn't 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:03.840 even around for me. Cheirs off me. But that was 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.240 one of my favorite moments, just because you know, I 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.720 always thought I was gonna be action here right right 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.840 kind of start. I wanted to be the romance dude 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.760 and action Dude and horror films and Debbie in this 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.680 show gave me a chance to do a little bit 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.320 of everything. We have so much fun. Do you remember 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.320 what we had those Browns. You didn't make your flight. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:25.880 I didn't make my flight, but I was trying. I 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.800 was done. I was trying to drive, and you guys 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.160 were like something, you took my gear. Jasmine was like, now, look, 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:39.520 you know you can't drive. Stop And I was like, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:44.160 I gotta gown and I had to stay. We put 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:48.200 you in the bed. You passed out. Have mercy. Oh 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:52.120 my god, I was tore down. I had never had. 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.600 Oh my god, Oh my god. I was trying to drive. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.040 Jasmine was like, you need to just go lay now. Absolutely. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.840 Oh man. Oh I remember one night with you, Debbie, 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.600 which one Oh god, I threw up all over her house. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:19.600 It's okay, it's all right. All I remember is just 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.520 throwing up everywhere, and Debbie's like, it's okay, you can 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.040 stay here. You're gonna be all right. You know you 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:32.840 raised you raised a lot of us. Well, we got 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:38.600 some of our other alumnis that I would love for 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:44.600 you to see. Well, hello boys. So many favorite memories 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:48.840 I know that they probably involved Jasmine because we were 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.360 always up to no good. We called ourselves hot and bothered. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:57.240 But I think one of my favorite moments would probably 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:02.680 be the No Means No episode when Kadeem has rescued me. 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.879 The two of us are in the dorm and we 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:08.520 just sit down together for a moment and I thank 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.760 him for being my friend. Even thinking about it makes 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.720 me want to tear up because it was a very 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.720 real moment between us. I'll never forget that that really 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.880 moved me. I got a memory of Jazzy. I call 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:26.240 her Princess Peach fuzz my Jasmine. One day we were 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:30.399 doing a scene and I had to look for something 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:34.879 in the drawer and in between takes, she said, girl, 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:40.359 what are you looking for? And I said, uh, I 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.879 don't know, and she said, it shows And it was 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.560 such a lightbulb moment. I was eighteen years old. She 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.000 really helped me to be a better actress. My favorite 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.320 scene who Chaw. I love when we got to do 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.800 the Step show. I love that Freddie was so raggedy 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:58.840 in the beginning, and I love that I got to 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:02.960 pull it together in the end. What does the show 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.080 mean to me so much? It's a defining moment in 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:09.800 my life and my career. It brought me Cadeem, my 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:13.760 first true love. I am from Saskatchewan, Canada. We don't 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.240 have any HBC used in Canada, and I got to 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:20.359 experience the side of black life I probably never would 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.960 have earned. I got to work with Debbie Allen, who 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:29.840 changed me profoundly, taught me so much, and I made 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:34.280 forever friends. I'm keeping all of y'all your mind, and 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.560 how much do I love all of you? This goddamn 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.960 so we got some more special folks joining the table. 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:56.320 Good She played student who was the mother of the group, 0:19:56.560 --> 0:20:00.680 Don Lewis, and he played funny musician Roy Johnson. It 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.600 was the winds ride on Dogs. Best Friend we got 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:15.080 d V Darren Bell. I've been listening to y'all tell 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:17.400 all the good stories. I know you have some good 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.760 stories to tell. We'll start with you, Daryl, Like, what 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:22.560 was some of your favorite moments on the show. Well, one, 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:27.280 everybody talks about the wedding episode, right, but my favorite 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.600 scene from the wedding zone is actually when you because 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:34.040 it's from the bachelor party when Ron made the slamming 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:43.160 pinion Cold Lady in the House, But you did ain't 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:46.640 buy seeing you milk and refrigerator. Oh yeah, I used 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:55.200 that to make this slamming pen. That was best milk 0:20:55.320 --> 0:21:03.159 raw Restu milk. That's one of my favorite moments. The 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.960 jail episode was, without a doubt, you know, one of 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:10.560 my favorite episodesically told Roschmon style from everybody's point in view. 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.840 I remember it was hard for cademon I because it 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.680 was Dean Kaine's first job and we had to really 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.160 get into each other's face about a lot of different things. 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:25.439 They have no respect, They don't care about this country 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:28.359 at all. All they do is ship on their butt 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.760 and complain. And what do they have to complain about. 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:32.800 It's because of them and their quotas that I'm not 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:36.080 in the ivy league where I belong. You all had 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:40.480 quotas for centuries. You call them legacies, restricted country clubs, 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.280 the law. Oh hey, my grandfather came to this country 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.000 with nothing. He couldn't even speak the language, but he 0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:48.639 worked hard and he made a place for himself and 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.960 his family. Now, why can't you people do the same. 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:57.480 My grandfather built this country. Man. Now, the writing on 0:21:57.680 --> 0:22:02.000 that show was brilliant and it was without a filter. Yes, 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.320 that still holds up about the stuff we did. As 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.360 much as they let us push the envelope, they still 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:10.240 kept rain on everything. Like the AIDS episode, we couldn't 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:12.840 show the card. We had to refer to it in 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:16.200 the Yeah, there were so many things that we could 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.280 just get so far and in expressing what it was 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.439 we wanted to express without them trying to put all 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:25.639 kind of constraints. Well, I remember also when we addressed 0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:33.440 the presidential campaign, we we satilized it. That thought of 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:38.560 jameson back on the cross, our candidates President Georgia much, 0:22:49.359 --> 0:23:03.040 I'm on the ballot. It's taddy duty can offer. Yeah. 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:09.080 I was always going into the principal's office buets. So 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.040 Murphy Brown gets to be on the cover of Time 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.800 magazine for being saying what she says about politics are 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:19.560 abortion or whatever. But we can't even do this. I said, guys, 0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.280 have you ever watched Saturday Night Live? Have you ever 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:26.600 watched in living color? We're a show that bridges that world. 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.480 And that's a good thing for y'all. Stop it already. Yeah, 0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.480 you are always in the principal's office. This always was 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:41.920 always And here's our math professor and favorite colonel. You 0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.520 haven't seen each other in a while, though I've seen you, Dawn, 0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.840 because you know, ever since Dawn and I were married 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.280 on the show, I have not been able to get 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.720 rid of her, right Joe Anne. On the test of that, 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:59.639 Dawn was at our wedding. She ended up singing and 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:05.920 she have been me now. So uh, I still want 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.080 to get Darry Belle back out on the golf course. 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:13.520 I owe him a bud whipping out there. Debbie Allen, 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:18.200 you were so instrumental in changing the outlook of the 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:22.880 show itself. The final wedding scene where Dwayne Wayne Uh 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:25.280 breaks in, I think that was one of the most 0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:30.320 romantic scenes we've never seen on television. Jasmine Whitley, who 0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:34.720 was just never more beautiful. That was probably one of 0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.720 my favorite scenes because it was talking about what the 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:43.360 show was was saying all along, don't give up on love. 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:48.280 Love always wins. Hey you guys, hope to see you 0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:57.280 soon and God bless Okay, So Lena say something I 0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:01.400 remember during the wedding episode, and Diane Carroll came over 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:05.359 and said, y'all, don't realize what you are. You're twenty 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.520 something years old. You're starting on the hit television series. 0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:11.440 And when I was your age, black people weren't even 0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:15.920 allowed on this lot, right, And I don't mean actors. 0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.119 I mean you couldn't have a black janitor here at 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:22.200 CBS RAP And now here you are twenty years old 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.840 starting on the show. And this is my first time, 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:29.720 Diane Julia Carroll said, my first time working on the 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:35.679 show starring black women, written by black women, directed by 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:41.080 black women, and produced by black boy. Yeah. Yeah, magnificent moment. 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.840 And we just have that veteran seasoned insight. You know, 0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:49.680 we had some faces that were prominent. I'm Patty LaBelle 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:53.600 and I have such great memories of a different world. 0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.639 I mean when Diane Carroll got rest her soul and 0:25:56.720 --> 0:26:00.080 I did the Turkey Day, that was priceless because she 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.879 was so glad and I was so ghetto. This is 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.199 a a junior farm fed turkey. Oh that's why it's 0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.920 got that little scrawny chest. This is a double D company. 0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:14.880 And my mad prove power for Chipmunk. It was really blueberries, 0:26:15.119 --> 0:26:17.600 not probes, because it was problems. It would have been 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.440 all over. But that was a fun moment with my son, 0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:24.280 Chipmunk mom that I learned a lot from Debby you know, 0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.640 doing a different moral for the things that I'm doing now. 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.360 A lot of it is because of Debbie Allen being 0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:33.280 so great at what she does. It was a great, 0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:41.840 great show and you you co wrote the theme song 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.760 I did. I was originally singing it. They didn't know 0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:47.800 they had hired the same person to write the theme 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.639 song that they had hired to be in the show, 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:53.000 so I was no longer allowed to sing it. Why 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:54.800 wouldn't you allowed to sing it because you are on 0:26:54.880 --> 0:26:57.520