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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from how Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry. The

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Speaker 1: three Musketeers together again after so long, so many weeks

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Speaker 1: of holidays and time off and rest and relaxation, back

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Speaker 1: at it again, which which makes this stuff you should

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Speaker 1: know that's right hard to come back for you. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I think it was just long enough and everything was

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Speaker 1: just satisfying enough that I'm ready. I'm glad to be

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Speaker 1: back at you. You're one of those weirdos. It's like

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Speaker 1: I need to work right exactly, like my skin falls off.

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Speaker 1: I've always said I would be a great lottery winner,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or retiree. Yeah, lottery winner is better. I

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Speaker 1: guess it's it's the same thing. It's a tree. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to sweat it right exactly, which is nice. Man.

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Speaker 1: I just should tell people that we were discussing with

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Speaker 1: Jerry um the word dulcet soar as your voice, Yes,

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Speaker 1: dulcet tones. You didn't know the definition. I looked it up.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh yes, I said sweet and soothing. But then

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Speaker 1: in parentheses says often used ironically. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that is. It's a back in the compliment. I guess, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: were you using it ironically? She actually, she didn't even nod.

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Speaker 1: She's just sort of moving her face around. Her skin

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Speaker 1: falls off to when she doesn't work. That's weird, weird.

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Speaker 1: So sweet and new Guinea is what you said. That's uh,

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Speaker 1: almond Joy's that's right, Mars bars Almond Joy's coconut sweet

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Speaker 1: and soothing. Okay, I'll take that. Yeah, I still prefer

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Speaker 1: muppety tenor. It's the greatest of all time. It's very

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Speaker 1: eye opening for me. What oh that was it a

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Speaker 1: article about us muppet eat dinner good stuff? So chuck. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I know that you. Um, you're a health conscious dude.

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Speaker 1: At the very least you're conscious of healthiness, right, I

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Speaker 1: have to and for a very long time I made

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Speaker 1: the switch, and um, one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: learned was that one of the easiest ways you can

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Speaker 1: lose weight very quickly is to just cut like sodas

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Speaker 1: out of your diet. Yeah. See, my problem is I

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Speaker 1: don't even drink SODA's right, So there's like a there's

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Speaker 1: a whole step right there. Yeah, that's removed from you.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, that's good, but in a way, right, but

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Speaker 1: I mean there's just no low hanging fruit as it were,

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Speaker 1: right as far as using corporate buzz speak ghosts unless

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Speaker 1: you count gallons of booze, that's not low hanging, my friend,

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Speaker 1: that's the top of the tree. That's last. She so um,

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Speaker 1: when you stopped drinking soda, you you really do, like

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Speaker 1: the pounds just fall off. It's insane, but you still

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Speaker 1: want soda, right, I mean it's like the craving still there.

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Speaker 1: And the um soda industry knew this, and they said, hey,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to lose a bunch of revenue, let's

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Speaker 1: start making diet sodas. And apparently originally they made them

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Speaker 1: almost exclusively for people with diabetes. UM. Around the post

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Speaker 1: World War two era, you could find diet sodas with

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Speaker 1: basically an inscription or something like that, like it was

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Speaker 1: people who must uh watch their sugar allotment or something

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Speaker 1: oh wait, wait, we can really like make weight loss

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Speaker 1: an issue here and like help promote weight loss by

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Speaker 1: saying for people who wish to watch their sugar intake right,

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Speaker 1: and just that little tiny switch changed everything, and like

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Speaker 1: the diet soda industry was born, so people have aggressive

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Speaker 1: nudge in the right direction, pretty much like, hey, don't

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Speaker 1: you think you should be washing your sugar intake chibs?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what's that's what's between the lines. So

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Speaker 1: we've got these awesome diet sodas that are sweetened with

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Speaker 1: artificial sweeteners. But of course there's nothing can possibly just

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Speaker 1: be just good or just great because there's apparently we're

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Speaker 1: starting to learn huge, massive problems with artificial sweeteners as well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, when have we found and replaced something natural

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Speaker 1: a win win. I mean, I'm sure there's something, but

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Speaker 1: it seems like there's always some kind of downside. I

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Speaker 1: guess maybe like a robotic arm just better than the

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Speaker 1: It could be he's saving up for your robotic arm transplant. Sure,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm tired of being weak on my right side,

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Speaker 1: so you can crush those Coke zero cans exactly with

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Speaker 1: After researching this, I'm like, yep, I'm done with diet

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Speaker 1: So funny, because you know, my history has always been

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Speaker 1: was just raised on it. You know, I've said it before.

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Speaker 1: But mixing milk and water, that's good. Then then you

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Speaker 1: have fat free milk. Yeah, pretty much, at least thin milk. Now,

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Speaker 1: of the diat soodas forever. Wow. Well that's good for you.

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Speaker 1: It is good. But if I want to brush my

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Speaker 1: encountering artificial sweeteners because they're everywhere. Now. Yeah, well, let's

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Speaker 1: back up a bit. Then that was a nice old

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Speaker 1: school intro. By the way, thank you. That's what you

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Speaker 1: get after you take a nice Christmas You've been rehearsing

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Speaker 1: that one for weeks. Yeah, you woke up Christmas morning

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Speaker 1: and you means just like, shut up. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: I gotta practice. Um. All right, Well, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: good episode on Taste from many years ago. Uh, we

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Speaker 1: part of that is based on how sweet something is.

424
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: So once we start drinking and ingesting these artificial sweeteners,

425
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: it just it goose everything up. It basically says that

426
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: our body doesn't associate sweetness with higher calories anymore. Yeah, right,

427
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: because with with something like artificial sweetened soda. Right when

428
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: you when you eat food, your body has a couple

429
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: of pathways that it rewards you for saying, hey, good job,

430
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: eat you ate food. I'm gonna make it so that

431
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: you want to eat food again. And one is the

432
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: gustatory pathway or gustatory component, which is like the taste,

433
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: the smell, the the sensation that you get from eating

434
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: like good food or like something sweet and delicious, and

435
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 1: that just activates your limbic system like crazy, Your reward

436
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: pathway goes nuts. Right, But when you eat stuff, you

437
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: also have the second component, which is um where you're satiated,

438
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: the feeling that you get that great pleasant feeling of

439
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: being like nice and pleasantly full from eating, right, and

440
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: that counters that gustatory excitement. So normally when you eat food,

441
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: you you get the excitement from the taste of it,

442
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: and then ultimately you'll also get the nice, pleasant feeling

443
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: from being full from it. Not so with an artificial

444
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: sweetened soda. Instead, you get the excitement your sugar rushes

445
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: going off, but you're never gonna get full. And since

446
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 1: we're nothing but junkies as far as like our brains

447
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: are wired, we're just gonna keep drinking more and more

448
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 1: and more because that sugar center is going off and

449
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: we're never getting full, so it's never counteracted. We just

450
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: always crave more and more and more. Yeah, And of course,

451
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: like you said, these ease, there's always an opposite one

452
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: that it was debunked as flawed um by the National

453
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: Soft Drink Association. Yeah, so then you try they just

454
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: said wrong. But that's not that produced studies not the

455
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: only study. There have been plenty of other studies that

456
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: have looked into this and have found the same thing

457
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: that that there's there's that our bodies are being tricked,

458
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: that we're no longer associating sweet foods with high calorie foods,

459
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: and that it's leading to eating more high calorie foods.

460
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: So that if you eat something that actually is sweet

461
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: and has calories. You're gonna eat more of it than

462
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: you would have before because your brain is not used

463
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: to saying I've got enough calories from this, I can

464
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: stop eating it now, playing tricks on your body. Yeah.

465
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: And plus also apparently with these these things that are

466
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: three hundred five hundred seven thousand times sweeter than sugar,

467
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: which is what our body is used to, is some

468
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: form of sugar. Um, the the sensation of sweetness is amplified,

469
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: and so it kind of mutes sweetness and other things

470
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: like fruit or any any other complex tastes, like in vegetables.

471
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: So we end up just craving more and more sweet

472
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: stuff because everything else tastes terrible compared to this ultra

473
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: sweet stuff that we're eating and drinking. And if you

474
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: stop drinking like like soda or diet soda or whatever,

475
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: stop eating junk food for even just like a week

476
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: or so, when you go back to it, it's amazing

477
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: how sweet that stuff actually is. It's it's like a

478
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: smack in the face, but you realize, like, wow, I've

479
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: really been used to this for a while, because I

480
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: don't remember it tasting this sweet. Yea, and my headaches

481
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: are are now gone because I'm drinking this again exactly well,

482
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: and the other thing too. And I know we covered

483
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: a little bit of this and the high fruit dost

484
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: corn sir it. But part of the problem is is

485
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: the ubiquity of this stuff. It's um, I think which

486
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: one was it was it aspartame that's in Yeah, aspertain

487
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: is in six thousand, more than six thousand products like

488
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: soft you know, soft drinks of course, gum uh, puddings,

489
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: dessert mixes, gelatin, frozen desserts, fillings, yogurts uh, and then

490
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: and you know, of course people just dump it right

491
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: into their coffee too, and it's purest form. But um,

492
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: unless you're really a stickler about looking at food labels,

493
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: you're getting way way more then the maximum recommended levels

494
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: that you should be ingesting of this stuff, because it

495
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: might be like I said in the I got a

496
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: sore throat, so I took the cough drop and now

497
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: chewing gum. Now I'm using toothpaste, and it's all over

498
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: the place right exactly. And that's another part of the

499
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: problem where even if the FDA is doing its job

500
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: and does all this research and looks at the medical literature, Um,

501
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: they may say, Okay, this stuff is safe at this level.

502
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: This is the maximum recommended amount that a person should

503
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: have and still be within the safe zone per day.

504
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: So don't put more than this in your soda. Okay, great,

505
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: go forth and prosper. And then that soda becomes a

506
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: success and other people start using that sweetener, and then

507
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: it's like you said, like with aspartain, it's everywhere, so

508
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: that the people are getting that amount just from that

509
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: that that soda with aspertain that they're drinking, but they're

510
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: also getting it from all these other places, and the

511
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: levels rise very quickly. Yeah, and some folks get I mean,

512
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: there's a definite um soft drink addiction problem. Um, even

513
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 1: with the diet SODA's I've known people who literally drank

514
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: like a couple of two liters a day of this stuff. Sure. Yeah,

515
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: like just constantly drinking soda all day long, from the

516
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: moment they get up till the moment they go to

517
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: bed as diet. So it's no big deal exactly. And Um,

518
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: there's actually a study that I came across. Um. I

519
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: didn't see where the study was from, but this is

520
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: it was mentioned on this um Harvard Health blog um.

521
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: It was a rat study where rats were given the

522
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: choice between oral saccharine and intravenous cocaine um after they've

523
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: been acclimated to both, and they tended to choose the saccharin. Wow,

524
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: that's crazy, Yeah slightly. Did they go round and round? Sorry,

525
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: then they're probably like, I've heard about that cocaine. I'm

526
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: not doing that, but I will do this Sacharin. By

527
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: the way, there's a h an audio interview on YouTube

528
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: with the drummer from the band Rat that's like an

529
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: hour and twenty minutes long that you should, I mean,

530
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: try and get through fifteen or twenty minutes of it.

531
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: But the way I saw it is someone said this

532
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: is the Donald Trump of of eighties hair metal? Was

533
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: it a contemporary like today? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. He basically

534
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: has a new group that does Rat songs, and I

535
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: think it's he's just the drummer that's the original member

536
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: and and just goes off for like an hour and

537
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: a half about how great they are and about how

538
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: that to the real stuff, and how they sound better

539
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: than the original Rat ever sounded, and and and it's

540
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: really something like I've never heard someone who was more

541
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: full of themselves than this, dude. It was hysterical, was

542
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: really wonderful. Well, how many songs could they possibly play?

543
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: They just play round and round like like twelve or

544
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: thirteen times at a show. They had a few hits.

545
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: All I remembers round and Round? No they uh, well,

546
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: I'll think on it. I'll bet your thinking of Cinderella

547
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: or docin No, I think Doc can have more hits

548
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: than Rat. Now they had lay it down? Remember that one? No,

549
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: can you sing it? Sure? You do? Lay it down

550
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: right now? And then they had wanted Man No Man Now,

551
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: and then You're in Love No, and way cool Jr.

552
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: They had I would say for genuine sort of hits,

553
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: I really honestly, I remember round and Round and that's it. Well,

554
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: they were a little bit pore your time too. Round

555
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: and Round was a pretty good song. Though. It's a

556
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: great song. Rat what's that? Should we should just end

557
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: the show? Actually, let's take a break and then we're

558
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna come back and talk specifically about some of these sweeteners.

559
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: Is that sound good? It sounds sweet. I can't believe

560
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: you don't remember You're in love? Well, you're not thinking it,

561
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: so how could I possibly remember it? And lay it down?

562
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: Those were two big, big hits. I mean, I'm telling you, like,

563
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: I was paying a lot of attention to eighties hair

564
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: metal when it was when it was out. Bet you'd

565
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: probably be like, oh, I know that song. M um. Alright,

566
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: remember remember Striper, the Christian hair metal band. I saw

567
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: a Striper and concert, my friend, did you the fabulous

568
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Fox Theater in I did awesome? Uh? Well it was

569
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: they had. They had more than one hit, didn't they. Yeah,

570
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I was. I was way into that in my early

571
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 1: youth group days. Strip they rocked about as tough as

572
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: you could get. I don't know about that, but they

573
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: definitely rocked, for sure. I don't know about that. Well,

574
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: they definitely wore a lot of spandex. Their drummer played sideways.

575
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: That was his big trick. They set up. They set

576
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: it up completely sideways on the stage. He's not actually

577
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: playing sideways then, No, no, no, he's playing straight ahead.

578
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: He just has the drum kit sideways. That was the gimmick.

579
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: Huh Yeah, that in religion pretty good? All right, So

580
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: let's talk about Sacharin. Let's that was it's actually the

581
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: Latin word for sugar um. And that was the one

582
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: we said earlier, which is the O g uh discovered

583
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: by two chemists named John's and Hopkins. Well, that's it.

584
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: That's so two guys claimed it. One was definitely in

585
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: the lab because he was the one who uh licked

586
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: his well, he ate a bread roll. I guess that

587
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: was sweet and he was like, I don't think this

588
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: is supposed to be sweet, and came to realize it

589
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: was soaking the coal tar that was on his fingers. Yeah, oh,

590
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: I thought you meant it was sitting in a little

591
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: pool of cold tar. And he like, notice it. He

592
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: was warming it up on the bunts and burner. Uh so, yeah,

593
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: that an accidental discovery. And it is three hundred times

594
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: sweeter than sugar. Yeah, and this is one of the

595
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: ones that is no calorie because his is not metabolized

596
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: by the body at all. And it is very famous,

597
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: well I don't know, but famous, but the drink tab,

598
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: the soft drink tab um. It was very famous for

599
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: being sweetened in a big way by saccharin. Right, which

600
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: means that from the I think nine seven till nineteen

601
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: nine seven, maybe there was a warning label on tab

602
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: that said, quote use of this product maybe hazardous to

603
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: your health. This product contains sacharin, which has been determined

604
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: to cause cancer and laboratory animals. Do you remember that

605
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: warning label on it? Yeah? And um, you can also

606
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: still find I mean, it's not like it went away.

607
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: It's that is what sweeten low is. And if you

608
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: drink fountain diet coke or pepsi fountain pepsi, you're gonna

609
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: have saccharin in there. Yea. And Emily was big on

610
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: the fountain diet cokes. She's like, it's just not the

611
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: same form can and I called it you. I was like,

612
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: it's because of sacharin. Sure what she's off fers now

613
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: too though, Yeah, that'll do it. But but what's weird?

614
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: So I've read this really great post on today I

615
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: found out, which is an excellent website by the way,

616
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: um and they they wrote about the discovering sacharin and

617
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: then the controversy, the health controversies of sacaran, and the

618
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: case they make is that it's it's it's basically the

619
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: victim of bad science reporting, public public fear basically, and

620
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: that if you're a rodent, yes you should not be

621
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: drinking tab because there there there was discovery of bladder

622
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: cancer and other types of cancer, but specifically bladder cancer

623
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: in lab rats that were being fed sacharin and um.

624
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: I guess before they figured out exactly why, the media

625
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: went and extrapolated it onto people, and so in the

626
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: public's mind it became, uh, sacharin will give you bladder cancer.

627
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: And then by the time they went and researched what

628
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: was going on. There's like the specific I think, the

629
00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: specific parts of rat urine um we're combining with the

630
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: saccharine to form these things called micro crystals in the bladder,

631
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: which is tearing up the bladder lining so frequently that

632
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: as the cells were regenerating, the potential for them to

633
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: to grow out of control and become tumors was increased,

634
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: and so the lab rats were getting um bladder cancer.

635
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: The thing is is the lab rats urine is not

636
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: the same as humans urine um, and so we just

637
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: don't get bladder cancer too from tab apparently or from saccharin. Well. Yeah,

638
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: and one of the things, I mean, I never really

639
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: knew this how they exactly tested. I figured because it

640
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: was a rat, they would just give them, like, you know,

641
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: a few drops or something because they're tiny. But they

642
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 1: apparently dose these lab mice and rats with lots of

643
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: these additives, large large doses, and apparently that's to compensate

644
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: for the fact that they don't use a lot of

645
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: mice and rats. Yeah, which I'm not I don't follow

646
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the logic there, there isn't any. And then they follow

647
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: it up with, Wow, that that seems to have really

648
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: gotten on top of you. How about some intravenous cocaine

649
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: to pure per cua. Well, they also said that large

650
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: doses compensate for possibilities that rodents maybe less sensitive to it. Yeah,

651
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: but I've also read elsewhere that the stuff that there,

652
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: they're the tests they're conducting at least on humans too,

653
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: are are not real world tests. It's like, Oh, you

654
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: just drank a twelve ounce diet coke and now we're

655
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: going to base all of our medical recommendations on the

656
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: impact that has on your body. They're not taking into account,

657
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: like you said, the guy who drinks to two leaders

658
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: or two twelve packs of diet coke a day thirty

659
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: years right exactly, and the like, this stuff is generally

660
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: just too new for us to have any like studies

661
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: on long term effects of them, so we really just

662
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean it's I don't like, I don't

663
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: want to foster um paranoia fear, yeah, or paranoia or

664
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: even just yeah, fear paranoia. But like, the jury is

665
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: still out as far as I'm concerned. Agreed. UH. For

666
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: its part, though, sacharine was removed from the n I

667
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: h S list of carcinogens, and they did remove that

668
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: warning label in the late nineties. Like you said, yeah,

669
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: and I should say, I'm not specifically talking about sacarin.

670
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking about artificial sweeteners in in general. Yeah, totally,

671
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: the jury is still out. But onto aspartame, that's one

672
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: of the big targets these days. UM Equal Nutra sweet

673
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: and neutral Taste are the brand names that it's sold under.

674
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: And this is UH. It's a derivative of a couple

675
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: of amino acids, um aspartic acid and Finni lalaleena. Yeah,

676
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: it's been around since nine Uh. And this was a

677
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: chemist named Jim Schladder Um a part of a company

678
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: that which is now Fighter. And he was the one

679
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: that was licking his finger to pick up paper and

680
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: studying an anti ulcer drugs and went, hey, I taste

681
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: undred times sweeter than sugared at me, right, and so

682
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: that's what it's used for. Oh yeah, well I don't

683
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: think they treat ulcers with it anymore. No. But the

684
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 1: weird thing about UM aspartame is more in how it's

685
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: broken down in the body. I think, um, yeah, because

686
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: it is metabolized. Yeah, And this just blew my mind.

687
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: I had no idea that something like that could break

688
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: down into methanol in your body. Yeah, wood alcohol. Weird.

689
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's one of three things. Is spartic acid,

690
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: uh and then finnil l laen la la nine and

691
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: methanol is what it breaks down into. That's just crazy, right.

692
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: And So if you UM do not have this disorder

693
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: called p KU or phenol keto neurea UM, it's the

694
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: wood alcohol you have to pay attention to. But if

695
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: you have PK, you then you've got a big problem

696
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: with the phenyl alanine because you're you're missing an enzyme

697
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: that breaks that down, and uh, it can build up

698
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: in your brain and create brain damage in you. So

699
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: people who have UM p KU or phenel ketoeurea UM

700
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: can't have aspartame at all because of that. But for

701
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: people who do not have p KU, you still have

702
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: to worry about the methane, although that would alcohol if

703
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm if I remember correctly. Isn't that the stuff that

704
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: the US government used to poison the illicit um alcohol

705
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: supply with and a bunch of people went blind and

706
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: died back into prohibition. I think it was wood alcohol,

707
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 1: And it's just so toxic. And normally when we when

708
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: we consume something that has would alcohol in it, um

709
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: there it's in the presence of ethanol, and that's it's

710
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: absorbed differently. The out the ethanol kind of like um

711
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: uh neutralizes it a little bit. But in aspertame, we're

712
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: it's breaking down into methanol without the presence of ethanol,

713
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: and so we're absorbing this toxic component. Um just straight up. Yeah.

714
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: Ten percent of asport tame is absorbed as methanol, and

715
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: the e p A says, uh, there's a recommended limit

716
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: of seven point eight milligrams per day of methanol and

717
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 1: drinking one leader of an aspartame sweeten beverage contains fifty

718
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: six milligrams of methanol. Well of well as what is

719
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: that saying fifty six milligrams of absorbed methanol or fifty

720
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: six milligrams of aspartame. I think I don't know. I

721
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: think that means methanol. That's how I took it eight

722
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: times a recommended amount in one leader of an aspertame

723
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: sweet and beverage. That's not good. Well, and like you

724
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: were saying, how the ethanol counterbalances it, it's the same

725
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: as the UH amino acids. They're naturally part of our diet,

726
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: but usually when we consume it there it's counterbalanced by

727
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: other amino acids, and in the case of aspartame, it

728
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have those, so it's just consuming it on its own, right,

729
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: So you're getting it in very high doses basically. And

730
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: there's been at least one study that is linked um

731
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: types of different types of cancers in female rats to

732
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: aspartain consumption. Right, but again, no official studies show any

733
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: official problems, well none that the FDA is pointing to.

734
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Like that was Europe. They're overprotective. Yeah, but this is

735
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: one of the ones too, that that arms program where

736
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: you can call in and report things. I think it

737
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: counts for sevent of all complaints. They're like, I'm dizzy,

738
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: I got headaches, I've got seizures, got fatigue. It's killing me.

739
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: It's killing me, Doc, you gotta do something. What's next?

740
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: Super lows sucralose like splenda, So sucralos is um. Splenda's

741
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: marketed or it was marketed with the kind of slogan

742
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: made from sugar, so it tastes like sugar, right, And

743
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: apparently they got sued by the sugar industry because, um,

744
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: I guess people thought that splenda was natural. I think

745
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: there was a um there was some sort of pole

746
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: that found like fifty seven percent of people thought that

747
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: splenda was a natural artificial sweetener and it's not. It's

748
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: actually you take a sugar molecule and then you take

749
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: out three of the hydroxyl groups, hydrogen and oxygen groups,

750
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: and you replace those with chlorine. This is always a

751
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: good move. That's no longer sugar. Nope, that's not sugar anymore.

752
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: It's not natural either. So what what you have? A

753
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: sucralose and sucralose is um six hundred times sweeter than

754
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: sugar and it's not metabolized by the body, so it's

755
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: calorie free. But there have been studies that have found

756
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: that it might not be my bablized by the body,

757
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: but it's absorbed by the body has been found in

758
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: the blood immediately after drinking a can of sucralow sweetened soda,

759
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: and it's also been found in breast milk too, from

760
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: mothers who have drank uh sucralose sweeten drinks. Yeah, and

761
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: sucralose is one of those you're gonna find because it

762
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: holds up to heat, so you're gonna find it in

763
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: a lot of baked goods or you know, like process

764
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: baked goods or in um. The I was about to

765
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: call them kits. What are they called the easy bake covin? No,

766
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: you know when you got to make a cake and

767
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: you get the stuff mix, Yeah, the mix, not a kit.

768
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: I like kit though, that's good. I need a cake kit.

769
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what you mean, pal book

770
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: And it's been a long day, please leave me alone.

771
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: But Splenda is one of the biggest, um probably heaviest

772
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: used sweetener. Just like I was gonna call it over

773
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: the counter sweetener. But when you just use it for

774
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: a sweetener alone, to sweeten sweeten your tea or your

775
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: coffee or whatever. Yeah, like you see a lot of

776
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: splendid because as that little green leaf on it. No,

777
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: it's Splendid. I thought Splendid was the yellow one. Oh,

778
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: Stevie is the one with the green Yeah, yeah, yeah,

779
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: that's right. You're right. Yeah, Stevie actually is natural. It

780
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: comes from a plant. Okay, alright, I feel much better

781
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: about the green leaf. Yes, super loser. Splendis sugar with chlorine.

782
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Splendid that yellow packet, that's right. Yeah, sweeten

783
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: load was pink Yep, Stevia has got the green leaf.

784
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: I used to dump that Sweeten loan in my iced

785
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: tea when I was a kid because I knew no better.

786
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: Did you really, wow? Well, because you know you put

787
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: sugar in cold iced tea, it does nothing but just

788
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: go to the bottom. I know. It's absolutely frustrating. And

789
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh wait a minute, I'm from Georgia.

790
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: I need to be drinking sweet and tea, which is,

791
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: while they're brewing it, they dump in a full one

792
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: pound bag of sugar so much like they say down here,

793
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: that the straws us to stand straight up in the tea.

794
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: And that's how you know when you have enough sugar

795
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: in your sweet tea. Yeah. I don't drink sweet teo

796
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: much anymore, but boy, I love it. Yeah, I do too.

797
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: It's really good. UM so super lose uh. For it's

798
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 1: worth isn't as controversial in the public sphere as aspartame

799
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: is UM. But there was a report the FDA that

800
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: said it's approved, but it did cause minor genetic damage

801
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: and mouse cells. But it was minor and weekly muta

802
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: genetic may cause may cause light cancer. Uh. And like

803
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: you said, they weren't they sued by the sugar industry,

804
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: didn't you say that? Yeah, I don't know what the

805
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: outcome was. I don't know. I haven't heard that slogan

806
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: in a while. So I bet the sugar industry one. Yeah,

807
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: now it's just splenda, you know the deal. Yeah, you know.

808
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: We used to say just think, just think, think hard,

809
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: google it. Uh. And then finally we have sugar alcohols,

810
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: which I wasn't super familiar with. Actually I am, because

811
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: I up until this week showed a lot of sugar

812
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: free gum and UM. A lot of it is is

813
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: sweetened with sugar alcohols, which is it's um. It's where

814
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: you take a sugar and you add a hydrogen atom

815
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: to it. So there's stuff like um sorb at all

816
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: zylas all um a thir tall. I even practiced that

817
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: one therapy. Yes, thank you, had a little trouble with it.

818
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: But um, they don't have calories because they're not typically

819
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: absorbed by the body, although some some actually do have

820
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: just about as money calories as sugar, so you do

821
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: have to kind of watch it. Um. But sugar alcohols

822
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: typically are used less for weight loss and more for

823
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: um like uh sugar or blood sugar control, like among

824
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: people with diabetes. Because so it might have the calories,

825
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: but it doesn't it doesn't have the glycemic load that

826
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: that sugar does. UM, and even some artificial sweeteners too.

827
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: But they taste really really good. They're they're about as

828
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: close to sugar as you can possibly get, UM and

829
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 1: still have fewer calories or whatever. The problem with them

830
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: is that they can um. They're like butterfish. They caused

831
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: the anal leakage. Yeah, I'm gonna bring that up every

832
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: chance I get. You know, I think we have our

833
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: first great band name of too, not antal leakage, but

834
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: glycemic load only. No one wants to hear that. No,

835
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: it's like diarrhea planet. Oh yeah, did poop knife? Is

836
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: that what it was? You're telling diarrhea Planet to to

837
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: change the knife and they yeah, they tweeted never never,

838
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: who are you? Um, yeah, so that lacksative effect. Um,

839
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: if you have a daily dose of fifty grams or

840
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: twenty grams, fifty grams of the sorb at all or

841
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: twenty grams of the man at all has to be

842
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Speaker 1: labeled that it has a lacksative effect. Yeah, But the

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Speaker 1: Center for Science and the Public Interest says no, no, no no,

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Speaker 1: Only ten grams of sorb at all can make you

845
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Speaker 1: poop your pants, So maybe you guys should lower it

846
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: for that warning. And the FDA said, look, man, we're

847
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: taking a nap away. They're like, why can we just

848
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Speaker 1: have people on the verge of pooping their pants? But

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Speaker 1: not quite right? Oh dear, yeah, I saw an alternative

850
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: to all this, you know, Oh what real sugar. That

851
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: is one alternative. And the thing is is, yeah, the

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00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: the upshot of all this is, well, maybe sugar is

853
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: not so bad. We're fine, sugar is pretty bad for you,

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00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: and so is like high fruit toast corncerpt But there

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00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: are plenty of like natural forms of sugar too, like

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Speaker 1: unref fine raw demorerra sugar or honey. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of places you can get sweetness that aren't necessarily bad

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00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: for you, right, Um, but then if you're super hip

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Speaker 1: with the science too, you might be in favor of

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00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: what are called sweet tasting proteins. And these are actually

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Speaker 1: pretty cutting edge from what I've seen. There's seven that

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Speaker 1: have been identified so far. All of them come from

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Speaker 1: plants that grow in the rainforest. And um, they are proteins.

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Speaker 1: They're not carbohydrates, their actual proteins. So they they yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Paraguayan and sweet chicken, Paragua and sweetbird. Yeah they

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Speaker 1: they they So they're not gonna they're not gonna raise

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Speaker 1: your glycemic index like your blood sugar. They're not going

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00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 1: to lead to weight gain. Um, they're they're just proteins.

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Speaker 1: And apparently some of them are quite sweet, and they're

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Speaker 1: looking into using those as an alternative to the artificial sweeteners,

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Speaker 1: which were the alternative to sugar, so they can decimate

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Speaker 1: the rainforest and yet another way, well hopefully this will

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Speaker 1: help them protect the rainforce something. No, no, no, this

874
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: is where our sweet comes from. Stop cutting it down. Okay,

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Speaker 1: keep keep your fingers crossed. They're crossed. Okay, that's all

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00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: I got. That's all I got. So that's artificial sweeteners everybody.

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Speaker 1: If you want to know more about those, you can

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Speaker 1: tact those words in the search bar at how stuff

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Speaker 1: works dot com and um the nooid will appear. And

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Speaker 1: since I said noid, it's time for listener now, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call this warmed my heart over the holidays, Scotch Hi, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that too, Hi, Josh and Chuck Um, Grace and I'm

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Speaker 1: seventeen years old and the oldest of three sisters, Lily

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00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: Rose ten great names. We started listening to your podcast

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Speaker 1: in two thousand nine when our parents split up and

886
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Speaker 1: we moved a state away from our dad. As a tradition,

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Speaker 1: now we always listen to a podcast of yours to

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Speaker 1: this very day when we are traveling between the two

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Speaker 1: states with our dad. It's been such a fun way

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Speaker 1: to pass the time during road trips. Your podcasts have

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Speaker 1: been the source of so many interesting conversations, such a

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Speaker 1: wonderful way to bring our family together over the years.

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Speaker 1: For instance, all three of us girls vividly remember the

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Speaker 1: Vulture episode for no apparent reason, and found the Haunted

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Speaker 1: House episode oddly cool. Uh. Lily, who was the fifteen

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Speaker 1: year old she enjoys the Halloween story episodes. Rose ten

897
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Speaker 1: thinks it's funny when you guys get off track. God

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Speaker 1: bless you, Rose uh. And I really like to annoy

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Speaker 1: my friends with all the useless facts that I now know.

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Speaker 1: We are such hardcore fans that we even had marathons

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Speaker 1: of your TV series Whoa. And we have literally been

902
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Speaker 1: a fan of you guys since you started. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: being a part of our childhood. Love the Harvey family.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic and they fantastic. It was great. And they

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Speaker 1: sent a picture of Dad and behind the wheel Uh

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Speaker 1: driving with it looks like Grace upfront and Lilian Rose

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Speaker 1: in the back and they were all just smiling and

908
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Speaker 1: just just they just had this lovely aura about them.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to us, No thanks to the Vulture episode. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I love the Harvey family now they're they're tops on

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Speaker 1: my list. Yeah, thanks a lot, Harvey family for writing in.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that big time. And the old man Harvey,

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Speaker 1: you're doing the right thing, sir, yep, keep both hands

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Speaker 1: on the wheel, that's right. If you want to get

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Speaker 1: in touch with us like the Harvey's did to let

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Speaker 1: us know how much of a role we've played in

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Speaker 1: your life. We love hearing that kind of stuff. You

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Speaker 1: can tweet to us. I'm at josh um Clark and

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Speaker 1: we're also at s Y s K podcast. You can

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Speaker 1: join us on Facebook dot com slash Stuff you Should Know.

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Speaker 1: You can hang out with Chuck on Facebook at Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant. You can send us an email to Stuff

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Speaker 1: Podcast at how stuff Works dot com and has always

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Speaker 1: joined us at our home on the web, Stuff you

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