1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: I went on a journey to find one of the 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: most dangerous men on the Internet, and it was the 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: most insane investigation of my career. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: She said to me, I feel like i'm digit very 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: trying to un massily that doesn't want to be found. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: My name is Lori Siegel, host of Mostly Human, a 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: tech podcast through a human lens, and in my fifteen 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: years as a technology journalist, I've seen some wild things, 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: but none so dangerous, so insidious as a site called 10 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: mister deep Fakes. So site filled with videos of celebrities, politicians, 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: and influencers in these sexually graphic, often violent videos doing 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: things that they would never do. 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: Sexual deep fake photos of Taylor Swift went viral on 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: social media. 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Shared over forty seven million times on x in what 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: advocacy groups say is a form of sexual abuse. What's 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: worse is that mister deep Fas wasn't just a destination 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: for passive viewing. It was a community, a place where 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: users could teach, learn, and build old technology explicitly designed 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: to violate women. Oh and of course make money off 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: of all of it. 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: I'd be happy to make you something that really gets 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: you off. I'm new, so I'm cheap. Hi, this is 24 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: awesome technology? Is it bad? 25 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 4: I want a deep fake of my sister in law. 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 4: I'm interested in finding someone who could make some realistic 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: looking fakes of women I know in real life. I 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: think it would be fun and hot to view them 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 4: engaged in sexual activities that they themselves wouldn't even do. 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: It quickly became clear that this new kind of digital 31 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: abuse wasn't just reserved for famous, public facing women. If 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: someone can take a photo of you, you can be 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: deep faked. 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: My face had been placed on someone else's semi nude body, like. 35 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: There's another version of me out there doing porn and 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: will forever. 37 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: It felt like it was being done to me. 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: Physically, it felt like nothing damn, but it wrecked me. 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: Something awful is happening. And they said it's not illegal, 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: there's nothing we can do. 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: And the man behind mister deep fakes, he's remained anonymous, 42 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: and that anonymity gave him power. And so I came 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: to the conclusion I had to find him. 44 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: And person who uh is one of the most dangerous 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: people on the internets, And I will show you right 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: now who is Christmas. 47 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: Listen to my four part investigative series searching for mister 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: deep Fakes starting June fourth, Right here in the Mostly 49 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: Human podcast feed search Mostly Human, in the iHeartRadio app, 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows, here is 51 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: mister deep fake.