Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky. I'm really sure
Speaker 1: it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I said.
Speaker 1: Hiron's dress. Hey boo, it's me Roz. Oh. I've had
Speaker 1: a great week. It's been a good one. The election
Speaker 1: is over some people. I think I believe that ghosts
Speaker 1: have voted in the election. From beyond the grave. People
Speaker 1: were dancing in the streets here in Los Angeles and
Speaker 1: now I'm fully in the holiday spirit, even though it's
Speaker 1: it's like maybe one or two weeks too early to
Speaker 1: be full on Christmasy, but I don't care. I'm going
Speaker 1: for it. It's twenty twenty. There's no rules anymore. But
Speaker 1: let's keep the party going. We've got another Listener episode
Speaker 1: this week, and I'm so excited to talk to listeners
Speaker 1: as always, and I would love to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I would love to do another Listener episode sometime in
Speaker 1: December or for December. And if you want to be
Speaker 1: on a Listener episode, just you know, write a little
Speaker 1: couple sentences about what your ghost stories are about and
Speaker 1: send them over to ghosted by rozat gmail dot com
Speaker 1: with the subject line Listener episode, and maybe we can
Speaker 1: have you on a listener episode soon on today's show,
Speaker 1: I am talking to for listeners. And last month we
Speaker 1: had Joey on the show. You might remember Joey who
Speaker 1: lives in Quebec, and Joey is just a ball of
Speaker 1: light and so fun to talk to. And he had
Speaker 1: this great story and he said a number of stories.
Speaker 1: One that I read on the show about sort of
Speaker 1: a doppelganger type experience he had with his partner. And
Speaker 1: then he was telling us about being in a grocery
Speaker 1: store and encountering this woman that was sort of an
Speaker 1: angel situation. We told that last month. Now this month,
Speaker 1: he's got a ton of more stories and I'm putting
Speaker 1: one of them on Patreon. That's why I'm telling you
Speaker 1: about this right now. So if you go to Patreon,
Speaker 1: you will find a bonus story from Joey this week.
Speaker 1: And this story has a connection to another episode of
Speaker 1: this show, the episode with Nicole Bayer who we all
Speaker 1: love now. Nicole told the story of when she went
Speaker 1: to AMDA, the American I think it's Music Dramatic Arts
Speaker 1: Academy something like that. It's a performing arts college in
Speaker 1: New York City. Now Nicole went there. She lived in
Speaker 1: the old dorms and had a couple of paranormal experiences.
Speaker 1: And Joey also went to that school and had a
Speaker 1: number of paranormal experiences as well. And so you'll hear
Speaker 1: those if you go to Patreon, and that is patreon
Speaker 1: dot com slash Roz dres Falise that is on my
Speaker 1: second tier of Patreon called on with the Show, and
Speaker 1: if you go to my first tier Patreon. This week
Speaker 1: I have another video of me given a little tour
Speaker 1: of spooky places in LA and this time I'm in
Speaker 1: West Hollywood and I kind of drive by some famous, spooky,
Speaker 1: glamorous little places around town and talk about some of
Speaker 1: the famous ghosts of film Land. Another good reason to
Speaker 1: subscribe to the Patreon is because next week I have
Speaker 1: on a guest that I know many people will be
Speaker 1: very excited about. Her name is Bailey Sarien. Now you
Speaker 1: probably know Bailey because she's incredibly popular on the Internet.
Speaker 1: She's got a big YouTube presence with these really fun
Speaker 1: videos called Murder, Mystery and Makeup where she does her
Speaker 1: makeup and she talks about murders and mysteries and ghost
Speaker 1: stories as well. She's gorgeous, she's so fun. She's just
Speaker 1: a super cute person, and we really hit it off.
Speaker 1: We had a good time, and I did my makeup
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean I did about twenty five
Speaker 1: percent of my makeup as I was having a conversation
Speaker 1: with her, and I have a little bit of it
Speaker 1: on video. I haven't done many interviews on video, and
Speaker 1: so I'll put up some clips of that next week
Speaker 1: on Patreon, so be sure to look out for that. Okay,
Speaker 1: it is time for the November edition of the Listener
Speaker 1: episode Extravaga. On with the show. Hello, Lauren, where are you?
Speaker 3: I am in southern California in the high desert.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love Southern California in the high desert.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a UFO?
Speaker 3: I feel like, Oh my goodness, I swear I see
Speaker 3: UFOs all the time.
Speaker 4: I actually had dreams. I had a dream about a.
Speaker 3: UFO the other night, and then I woke up the
Speaker 3: next morning and there was all the strange lights, strange
Speaker 3: lights over Maui, and it was exactly what I saw
Speaker 3: in my dream.
Speaker 1: So, but have you you've actually seen, like in person,
Speaker 1: a UFO.
Speaker 3: I've definitely seen things that are unexplained that I couldn't
Speaker 3: quite figure out.
Speaker 4: What they were. Where I live is really dark, so
Speaker 4: it's easy to.
Speaker 3: See a lot of stuff at the night sky, and
Speaker 3: there's some strange stuff out there.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm obsessed. Okay, but also, you wrote
Speaker 1: the Facebook about living in a haunted house. I read it,
Speaker 1: and then things have gotten worse. Can we hear the
Speaker 1: whole story from the beginning from you rather than okay?
Speaker 3: So, okay, I need to take a deep breath. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is the house that I grew up in. I'm
Speaker 3: actually sitting in it right now. And so I moved
Speaker 3: in here when I was ten, and I ever since
Speaker 3: I was a child kind of felt like I could,
Speaker 3: you know, like I was just connected into a part
Speaker 3: of the world that maybe my brother and my sister weren't.
Speaker 3: And so we moved into this house and it just
Speaker 3: felt really off. And so as a kid, I heard
Speaker 3: a lot of strange things. And one of the craziest
Speaker 3: things is, so my dad was a cop when I
Speaker 3: was a kid, and so he was always super careful
Speaker 3: up closing the doors, making sure everything's locked. But fairly
Speaker 3: often we would come home and the doors would be
Speaker 3: wide open, and my dad would go and he'd be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll check and you check every every room and nothing
Speaker 3: was nothing was wrong, nothing was missing.
Speaker 4: But it happened enough.
Speaker 3: To where it was like a thing where like we
Speaker 3: would just randomly come home and the door would be
Speaker 3: wide open, like the front door or the back door.
Speaker 4: It's just weird.
Speaker 3: Yes, And so now I live in this house now,
Speaker 3: So I moved out, didn't live there for a while.
Speaker 3: I've been living back in this house for the last year,
Speaker 3: so it's my second fall here. And when we moved in,
Speaker 3: I like told my husband, I was like, oh, like
Speaker 3: this this house is super haunted. It feels really creepy.
Speaker 3: And we move in and it didn't really feel like
Speaker 3: that anymore, kind of felt fresh and new, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, like maybe maybe what was ever what
Speaker 3: was here is going to be gone, and you know,
Speaker 3: it'll be fine. So we're living here for a couple
Speaker 3: months and everything seems normal. Basically we have a one
Speaker 3: year old son and a or if we have a
Speaker 3: two year old and a seven year old, but they
Speaker 3: were one and six when we moved in, and our.
Speaker 4: Six year old has always.
Speaker 3: She's a sleep walker, so she walks at night, which
Speaker 3: is really creepy in and of itself. Yeah, but then
Speaker 3: our too, our two year old moved We moved in here,
Speaker 3: and he just started talking about monsters, which is not
Speaker 3: something that our six year old talks about, and so
Speaker 3: we don't really know where he picked up that word from.
Speaker 3: He just started getting scared. Like he'd be in the
Speaker 3: room by himself and he would go, oh, a scary monster,
Speaker 3: A scary monster, and he'd just be always pointing in
Speaker 3: the same spot.
Speaker 4: It's in my bedroom, of course.
Speaker 3: And so didn't really think anything of it. We're like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe he's just heard the word and is
Speaker 3: a little scared. But then he started getting really scared,
Speaker 3: and he would like wake up in the middle of
Speaker 3: the night and just like be petrified, just completely screaming, inconsolable,
Speaker 3: screaming about a monster.
Speaker 4: He's scared, and he wouldn't be fine until we left
Speaker 4: the room.
Speaker 3: And so I started thinking, you know, maybe something is
Speaker 3: a little off here.
Speaker 4: And all the while this.
Speaker 3: Is happening, my husband has not informed me that he's
Speaker 3: been seeing weird things around the house. What So the
Speaker 3: first thing he said, you know, the other night we
Speaker 3: were so we were laying in bed.
Speaker 4: It's about around eleven.
Speaker 3: I don't remember the exact time, but my husband said,
Speaker 3: do you remember that other night when you looked at
Speaker 3: me and you were like.
Speaker 4: What's going on? So my husband, we were laying in bed.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 4: Let me back up.
Speaker 3: My husband is laying in bed and he gets this
Speaker 3: look on his face and I can tell that he's
Speaker 3: heard something, and I'm like, what's going on? And he says, oh, nothing,
Speaker 3: it's fine. But then he exits the room, goes down
Speaker 3: the hallway, comes back and is just silent.
Speaker 4: And I was like, is everything okay? Are the kids okay?
Speaker 3: And he's like, yeah, yeah, it's fine. I went okay,
Speaker 3: I felt a little weird. I was like, okay, whatever.
Speaker 3: And then and then our son keeps talking about this monster,
Speaker 3: keeps talking about this monster, and I'm like, I feel
Speaker 3: like something's not right here. And my husband goes, you know,
Speaker 3: I didn't tell you about this, but the other day
Speaker 3: when you looked at me and asked if something was wrong.
Speaker 3: I went down the hallway and I saw a child
Speaker 3: walking down our hallway and I thought it was our daughter,
Speaker 3: and so I ran towards her because it was the
Speaker 3: middle of the night. She sleeps, she sleepwalks, and then
Speaker 3: the child just disappeared.
Speaker 4: Child ran and disappeared.
Speaker 3: What I was like a little blonde kid. So both
Speaker 3: of our kids are blonde because I was like a
Speaker 3: little blonde kid that ran.
Speaker 4: Across our hallway. We live in a.
Speaker 3: Nine hundred square foot house. They could not have gone far.
Speaker 3: It's not a big house. And so that's really weird. Now,
Speaker 3: mind you, two weeks before this, we have an alarm system,
Speaker 3: and around the same time of night that the sighting
Speaker 3: of the child happened, our alarm went off and my
Speaker 3: husband and I we wake up. We're screaming to get
Speaker 3: the bat. We're you know, in attack mode. And our
Speaker 3: back door is wide open, but no one's there, and
Speaker 3: our cameras didn't catch anything. The police come, they don't
Speaker 3: see anything, and we have no idea what happened.
Speaker 1: And so and that's the same door that when you
Speaker 1: were a kid used to be open, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's not a door that you can easily open, like,
Speaker 3: it's not a door like it's hard for me and
Speaker 3: my husband to open it. So it would have been
Speaker 3: very difficult for our six year old daughter to open it,
Speaker 3: especially if she was sleepwalking and she was on the
Speaker 3: opposite side of the room and so, and she was
Speaker 3: like super dazed and they're like, oh, did.
Speaker 4: You open it? And she's like, oh, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, and she like, so, we don't
Speaker 3: know about that. But then so that happened, and all
Speaker 3: that's happening around the same time of night. So then
Speaker 3: there's another thing with my husband. He wanted to be here,
Speaker 3: but he's not here. He was washing his face in
Speaker 3: the bathroom sink, and it's the same bathroom that I
Speaker 3: grew up in. This bathroom is just it's one of
Speaker 3: those bathrooms where you go in it and it just
Speaker 3: doesn't feel right, very heavy energy. You kind of get
Speaker 3: like nauseous when you go inside of it. We don't
Speaker 3: really let our kids use it. They use our bathrooms
Speaker 3: just because it's just not doesn't have a good fine.
Speaker 3: And so my husband's washing his face and he looks
Speaker 3: into the mirror. He's the only one awake, and he
Speaker 3: sees a face in the corner of the mirror.
Speaker 1: No, that's like the biggest that's like such a horror
Speaker 1: movie thing. And I feel like I've never once in
Speaker 1: my life washed my face in the bathroom without looking
Speaker 1: back into the mirror, expecting to see something like that
Speaker 1: and now it's air that really happens in real life.
Speaker 3: He was like, all right, like you know, let me
Speaker 3: check out like all the different angles and the lining
Speaker 3: and you know.
Speaker 4: What could what could have been? And he said he
Speaker 4: could not recreate what he had seen.
Speaker 3: And he said it like looked like like a full face,
Speaker 3: like he could see the full face in the mirror,
Speaker 3: and it said didn't.
Speaker 4: Look like his face.
Speaker 3: And so that's just like totally bizarre. So so there's that,
Speaker 3: and then there's one more thing. So when I was
Speaker 3: a child living in this house, I had a room
Speaker 3: that one of the walls touches the hallway, and the
Speaker 3: hallway is not good, like there's something in the hallway.
Speaker 4: My husband and I.
Speaker 3: We were like, all right, let's figure out, like where
Speaker 3: do you feel the energy? Where do you feel the
Speaker 3: negative energy in the hallway? And so we we share it,
Speaker 3: and of course we feel it in the same spot.
Speaker 3: There's like we can feel this energy that's like moving
Speaker 3: at the end of the hallway, and then we feel
Speaker 3: an energy that's stuck in the back left corner and
Speaker 3: it's like back up against the garage. The garage is
Speaker 3: really creepy. Like not a good energy, like just really
Speaker 3: dark and heavy. And when I was a kid, I
Speaker 3: kid you not. I was laying in my bed in
Speaker 3: the middle of the night and I could hear someone
Speaker 3: dragging something down the hallway and I'm like, what, Like
Speaker 3: it was carpet and I could hear like something heavy
Speaker 3: being like drug across like the carpet in the hallway,
Speaker 3: and so I like call out, I'm like Eric to
Speaker 3: my brother Dad, you guys awake, and no one's awake,
Speaker 3: and I just like locked my door and you know,
Speaker 3: but that moment was has stuck with me because I
Speaker 3: always felt like there was there's just something stuck in
Speaker 3: the hallway, like it can't like it's just stuck there.
Speaker 3: And so to get to the very last thing, also
Speaker 3: not not my experience, but my brothers, I won't go
Speaker 3: into it too much, but my brother used to live
Speaker 3: in the room at the end of the hallway, so
Speaker 3: where that really dark energy is. Duck and my brother
Speaker 3: when we were growing up, had a lot of really
Speaker 3: like really vivid nightmares.
Speaker 4: We all did as kids.
Speaker 3: Me and my brother and my sister still have very
Speaker 3: vivid nightmares. My brother had probably the worst of them,
Speaker 3: and when he lived in this house, he was at
Speaker 3: his lowest, and my sister, my brother, and I think
Speaker 3: that there is something that got trapped in that room,
Speaker 3: like there's an energy that got trapped in that room
Speaker 3: that kind of latched on to my brother because it
Speaker 3: was just it was just so heavy, like there's just
Speaker 3: this darkness that's in there. And so when we moved
Speaker 3: into this house, that was the room that we put
Speaker 3: my kids into, and sure enough, they only lasted in
Speaker 3: there for a couple of months because my daughter just
Speaker 3: kept having these terrible nightmares, and so we staged the room.
Speaker 3: I staged it a ton of times. I've got like
Speaker 3: all sorts of like lights and crystals and cleansing things
Speaker 3: in the room.
Speaker 4: And now we've moved the kids back in there and
Speaker 4: they sleep a lot better.
Speaker 3: But my son now is saying that there's a monster
Speaker 3: in the corner by the window. And so there's the
Speaker 3: monsters only ever in there in one spot, and there's
Speaker 3: nothing in that corner that.
Speaker 4: Looks like anything.
Speaker 3: It's just his dresser. And so still ongoing. You know,
Speaker 3: last night, I was putting my son to bed and
Speaker 3: he goes, Mommy, A scary monster, A scary monster, and
Speaker 3: so we go, we say, go away, scary monster, and
Speaker 3: in his little childer.
Speaker 4: Voice, he goes. He says, go way, scary monster. And
Speaker 4: then we go to sleep.
Speaker 1: My god, Now did your daughter sleepwalk before you guys
Speaker 1: moved in.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's always.
Speaker 3: I mean she when she was a like when she
Speaker 3: started crawling, she would crawl in her sleep.
Speaker 1: So, like I got to ask some of the Haunted
Speaker 1: House movie questions. First of all, have you done any
Speaker 1: research or figured out what could have happened in the house?
Speaker 4: I haven't.
Speaker 3: We we were the second owners of the house. The
Speaker 3: people before us it was a family, and my dad
Speaker 3: said that the dad worked for some production company.
Speaker 4: But other than that, that's all we knew.
Speaker 1: Okay, And so are you thinking now that you've done
Speaker 1: some saging, you've done the crystals, are you thinking you
Speaker 1: might try anything else? Or how are you feeling about
Speaker 1: the current situation.
Speaker 3: We feel like there besides that like creepy energy, oh
Speaker 3: my gosh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So besides the.
Speaker 3: Creepy energy in the hallway, everything else just feels kind
Speaker 3: of playful. So I don't think that it's like a
Speaker 3: situation we need to really deal with right now, because
Speaker 3: like we don't feel scared.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good, So that's good.
Speaker 3: But I did just remember our neighbor was actually like
Speaker 3: had actually murdered.
Speaker 4: A few people, and we go in detail.
Speaker 3: That's but it wasn't in our house, and it's not
Speaker 3: on the it's on the side of the house where
Speaker 3: we're like the like the moving energy is. So it's
Speaker 3: not on the side of the house where the energy
Speaker 3: that feels like it's stuck.
Speaker 1: So wait, e, when did your neighbor murder people?
Speaker 4: Apparently while I was living here.
Speaker 3: My mom's actually my mom's a lawyer, and she came
Speaker 3: across the case and she texted me and she goes, Lauren,
Speaker 3: you made need to tell your dad because they're divorced,
Speaker 3: Because Lauren, you made me tell your dad that your
Speaker 3: neighbor just got arrested for killing a few people.
Speaker 1: So but he killed people in the house.
Speaker 3: No, I don't believe or no, he killed people so terrible,
Speaker 3: like outside of the house. So it wasn't something that
Speaker 3: happened next to us. But that person lived next to me,
Speaker 3: and it was somebody like the the what's it called.
Speaker 4: They had kids, and I would go over to their
Speaker 4: house and hang out with them.
Speaker 2: But I did.
Speaker 4: I didn't know anything was going on.
Speaker 1: So, oh my god, well, please keep me updated if
Speaker 1: anything else is going on over there. I'm glad to
Speaker 1: hear that you're not scared.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not too scared.
Speaker 1: Because I'm over here terrified. But okay, if you could
Speaker 1: live like that, I just don't want to wash my
Speaker 1: face and look at the mirror and see a face
Speaker 1: there mine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do not wash our faces in the scenk anymore.
Speaker 4: It's just not something we do.
Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house. Hello, we have got
Speaker 1: the back by popular demand, Joey from Quebec. How are you?
Speaker 2: I am great.
Speaker 5: It's five thirty here in Quebec and it's pitch black,
Speaker 5: so welcome the winter everybody.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, well, I was reading you sent me
Speaker 1: an email with more stories and just like our listeners,
Speaker 1: the paranormal loves you. So what is going on? First
Speaker 1: of all, why does the paranormal love you so much?
Speaker 2: Honestly?
Speaker 5: From when I was, I mean as young as I
Speaker 5: can remember, my family just always called me an old soul,
Speaker 5: like I was just so in tune with everything, and
Speaker 5: I had tons of psychic like I just did weird,
Speaker 5: weird shit that my parents would be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: we got to watch him, like just things like that.
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I never.
Speaker 5: Not believed in spirits because most of my family.
Speaker 2: Did, so I don't know. When you're not told no,
Speaker 2: you're not really so skeptical.
Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I guess, so you can kind of
Speaker 1: have more freedom to just embrace it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Are you do you think that you're like a psychic psychic?
Speaker 5: I honestly, well, I wouldn't say psychic because that like, however,
Speaker 5: like I definitely consider myself as sensitive and I definitely
Speaker 5: feel things, and I'm usually my intuition is like on fleak,
Speaker 5: like it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Well, you sent me like a bunch of stories. I'm
Speaker 1: down to hear any and all of them. So let
Speaker 1: them rip. Which one would you like to tell?
Speaker 5: How about we visit well, you know what, since everyone
Speaker 5: can know how weird I am, we'll talk about the
Speaker 5: Babylon story. So basically, this is a spiritual well it is,
Speaker 5: it's about past lives basically. So picture it Staten Island.
Speaker 5: I'm three years old. I'm playing like. My mom is
Speaker 5: in the kitchen right next to my playroom, and I,
Speaker 5: as she had noticed, built this huge thing that she
Speaker 5: could not figure out how the hell I had done
Speaker 5: this so perfectly when I'm three.
Speaker 2: So she was like just weirded out by that.
Speaker 5: And then she kept hearing me talking and speaking to
Speaker 5: maybe someone something and imagine her friend whatever. And then
Speaker 5: she heard distinctly the word Babylon. Now I'm three, how
Speaker 5: do you There's no way I could.
Speaker 2: Have known that word.
Speaker 5: So she comes over and she's like, Joey, who taught
Speaker 5: you that word Babylon? And I was like, what are
Speaker 5: you talking about, mom? And she's like, Babylon? Who taught
Speaker 5: you that word? And I was like, we used to
Speaker 5: live there, remember, we had all the animals.
Speaker 2: And my mom told me like she was really confused,
Speaker 2: and she was. She pressed me.
Speaker 5: She was like, Joey, what do you mean we lived
Speaker 5: in Babylon? And I was like, when I was your
Speaker 5: son before? Don't you remember?
Speaker 2: And I'm like.
Speaker 5: Three, and I'm getting fit, like agitated, like annoyed that
Speaker 5: she doesn't remember, and she didn't press that matter.
Speaker 2: However, when I.
Speaker 5: Was in my late teens, my mom was like, do
Speaker 5: you know the crazy shit you say as a kid?
Speaker 5: I was like, no, tell me. She was like, used
Speaker 5: to tell me that you were my son before, that
Speaker 5: my sister was my sister before, and that when I
Speaker 5: was like three to like five, I would talk about
Speaker 5: how I had died many times before and I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: well that's reincarnation, and she's like, I know, but I'm
Speaker 5: telling you now. And usually back then, like I was
Speaker 5: born in eighty seven, so like, obviously this is like
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one. There was no YouTube or Internet,
Speaker 5: so like no one was like there's so many story
Speaker 5: times now of all these mothers going.
Speaker 2: My five year old is talking about their past lives.
Speaker 5: So like if my mom had that, maybe it would
Speaker 5: have not made her think I was so weird. But
Speaker 5: back in nineteen ninety that she was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: we're gonna put this in our pocket and I'll talk
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, And I mean if you say that you
Speaker 1: were alive in Babylon, that's like that when people say,
Speaker 1: oh that you're an old soul, Like that's an old soul, right,
Speaker 1: that means you've been around for a minute.
Speaker 3: Girl.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, but there's also maybe the timeline wouldn't
Speaker 1: add up. But also I don't know if you ever
Speaker 1: watched the TV show Queer as Folk, but the gay
Speaker 1: bar in that show was called Babylon.
Speaker 5: But I think I had my career awakening during that
Speaker 5: show because my parents used to watch it. And then
Speaker 5: when I would see the bathhouse, I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: I'm relating to this on a level, I'm relating to this.
Speaker 1: So you also were telling me about you had like
Speaker 1: a UFO or okay, an alien.
Speaker 5: Exact this because ghosts don't scare me, honestly, like, I'm
Speaker 5: not scared by that, but this stuff that was wild
Speaker 5: because I had so there were so many people with me,
Speaker 5: and we were all like, what.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's set the sea.
Speaker 5: I am like in my early twenties and I'm visiting
Speaker 5: from New York and all my friends from Florida.
Speaker 2: They come over to my house and we go to
Speaker 2: my bedroom and.
Speaker 5: We go on my balcony and I have a nice
Speaker 5: patio and we're all chilling and it's like six of
Speaker 5: us plus my sister, and we're all chilling and talking
Speaker 5: and then like we all like stopped talking because the
Speaker 5: patio furniture started like vibrating, and so.
Speaker 2: We're like, what the hell is?
Speaker 5: So it's probably a plane, right, Well, it's not a plane.
Speaker 5: We look just above, like just above us, not like
Speaker 5: in this like totally up in the sky.
Speaker 2: There's a swarm of what we thought were bees or
Speaker 2: wasp because of the sound. It was like a like
Speaker 2: a something like that. However, this was not that.
Speaker 5: They were about the size of a marble and they
Speaker 5: were jet black like black like it almost looked.
Speaker 2: Like animation, Like it was so.
Speaker 5: Not like it looked like it just didn't belong like
Speaker 5: in our sky.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So we're all just like mesmerized by this, and then
Speaker 5: we're starting to panic, and then it gets eye level
Speaker 5: with us, like not like not looking at us.
Speaker 2: It didn't have eyes or anything like that, but.
Speaker 5: Like it was in front of our eyes, like on
Speaker 5: our eye level, like we're all sitting around a table,
Speaker 5: and it just like kind of in my opinion, it
Speaker 5: didn't have eyes, but like it like saw us, like
Speaker 5: acknowledged us. And then one by one, me and my
Speaker 5: friend started running back into my bedroom and jumped on
Speaker 5: my bed and we're for like a good twenty minutes
Speaker 5: we were like what the f was that?
Speaker 2: And honestly, like that was not ghosts.
Speaker 5: I just feel like that was a sort of extraterrestrial experience,
Speaker 5: and that was wild.
Speaker 1: But you say that they were they the size of
Speaker 1: a marble when they were eye level.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, they were the same size the whole time, like
Speaker 5: a large marble.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 2: The wildest thing of everything.
Speaker 1: You don't think it was like a drone or anything
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know if did we have drones in
Speaker 5: like two thousand and ten. I'm sure we did. I
Speaker 5: don't know about technology. I'm not good with it. But
Speaker 5: it was so beyond anything any of us had ever
Speaker 5: seen that we were And most of my friends then
Speaker 5: were not spiritual or believers or anything, so like it
Speaker 5: really gave them pause.
Speaker 2: They were like, what the f was at?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Interesting?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know much about that kind of stuff, but
Speaker 1: I love hearing it me too. Okay, tell me another one.
Speaker 1: What about publics? Publics ps? Publics? So that's a big
Speaker 1: grocery chain in Florida. And when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I would vacation in Florida. And when I was learning
Speaker 1: how to read, I used to say I used to
Speaker 1: call it pubics. For some reason, I just couldn't The
Speaker 1: l just blurred into the eye for me, and I
Speaker 1: would say, let's.
Speaker 2: Go to pubics. I'm pretty sure something tell me about
Speaker 2: pubic jokes, say pubic.
Speaker 5: So this is the same publics in Sunrise, Florida that
Speaker 5: I had my witch angel experience, and this is such.
Speaker 1: As So anybody that doesn't know what I'm we're talking about,
Speaker 1: go listen to the last Listener episode that Joey was on,
Speaker 1: which was last month, and you encountered this angel, which
Speaker 1: magical woman at the publics.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is I guess several several months later.
Speaker 5: And I didn't know at the time because I'm a kid.
Speaker 5: My parents are going through a lot of financial difficulties,
Speaker 5: but I didn't realize that because we were happy. But
Speaker 5: we go into the publics in Sunrise and I'm going
Speaker 5: through the aisles and I noticed this guy in a
Speaker 5: public's uniform with the apron and everything, and he's smiling
Speaker 5: at me when we walked in, and I smiled back.
Speaker 5: And when we're in this the Cereal aisle, I see
Speaker 5: him at the end of the aisle smiling at me
Speaker 5: and he's.
Speaker 2: Pointing and I was like, okay, what is he putting at?
Speaker 5: So I look and he's pointing at this specific box
Speaker 5: of Captain Crunch.
Speaker 2: That's specific my favorite. I know, I love Capty Crunch.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it.
Speaker 5: So he's pointing at the cereal and then when he
Speaker 5: sees that I know what he's pointing at.
Speaker 2: He's like he was making a motion to like move
Speaker 2: the box.
Speaker 5: So I moved the box and there's this large white
Speaker 5: envelope there. And then as I am about to take
Speaker 5: the envelope, he points at me again, and he points
Speaker 5: at the envelope and he points at my mother and he.
Speaker 2: Does it twice. So I was like, okay, okay, I'm
Speaker 2: going to do that.
Speaker 5: So I take the envelope and I ran to my
Speaker 5: mother with the grocery cart, and I was like, mom, here,
Speaker 5: that man told me to give it to you. And
Speaker 5: she opens the envelope and there's three thousand dollars in it.
Speaker 2: She could not.
Speaker 5: Believe it, and she well, she told me when I
Speaker 5: was older, like she was so afraid to take it.
Speaker 5: She like didn't understand it. But she saw the public's
Speaker 5: man like he was there.
Speaker 1: And then the man that was pointing she saw him too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she saw him too.
Speaker 5: And then he went away and we did our shopping
Speaker 5: and we were able to get more soft obviously, and
Speaker 5: he bagged our groceries like he bagged our groceries like
Speaker 5: we were. He the woman scanning our groceries wasn't really
Speaker 5: making eye contact with him or speaking to him, but
Speaker 5: I think I was. I don't remember anything I said.
Speaker 5: My mom was just shaking and she just really wanted
Speaker 5: to leave, but like, the man kept smiling and talking
Speaker 5: to me. So he Back in the day, the bagger
Speaker 5: would walk you to your car with the with your
Speaker 5: grocery card groceries. So he did that, and so we
Speaker 5: put the stuff away, and my mom just didn't know
Speaker 5: what to do. So she was like, I'm giving him
Speaker 5: five dollars. So she goes to give him five dollars
Speaker 5: and like literally, he just put the bags into the
Speaker 5: trunk and he was gone, and my mom was like,
Speaker 5: get in the car, stay here. And my mom runs
Speaker 5: to back into Publics, and I guess like maybe three
Speaker 5: four minutes go by. She comes out and she looks
Speaker 5: shaken and freaked out, like I can tell when my
Speaker 5: mom is like that. She comes back into the car
Speaker 5: and she says to me, the people are Publics told me,
Speaker 5: no man like that works there. The man that we
Speaker 5: were talking to and so we just what is going
Speaker 5: on in this public So my mom was like, Joey,
Speaker 5: that was an angel. That angel gave us a miracle.
Speaker 5: And I was like, he doesn't work there, and she
Speaker 5: was like, they said, no one with.
Speaker 2: That description has ever worked there, and we were just.
Speaker 1: They have a uniform on or anything.
Speaker 2: He had the.
Speaker 5: Whole uniform on, the whole apron and everything. So m
Speaker 5: but what I remember specifically was the woman that was
Speaker 5: scanning the groceries and then it rolls down and then
Speaker 5: the guy bags it. She was not looking at him,
Speaker 5: not acknowledging him, and when I was speaking to him,
Speaker 5: it was as if she did.
Speaker 2: Not see him.
Speaker 5: And my mom was just so freaked out, like she
Speaker 5: was just like, whoa, this really happened. We always tell
Speaker 5: this story to all our friend and family like it
Speaker 5: really happened. But then again, my family really believes in
Speaker 5: angels and things like that, so it wasn't a shock
Speaker 5: to us, but it was definitely a miracle.
Speaker 2: It was. It was a wonderful story.
Speaker 1: Wow, that is so cool. Okay, let's do one more. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do when you were doing children's theater.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, so this was pretty cool.
Speaker 5: I was in a touring children's theater in Philly, but like,
Speaker 5: we go all over the place, and this time we
Speaker 5: were in Texas and we did the entire place of Texas.
Speaker 2: I don't remember where. I have a feeling.
Speaker 5: It was something called Nagado Chase, but I'm not a
Speaker 5: hard I'm sure, but I remember that name. Being crazy,
Speaker 5: I was like, this is a real place. So we
Speaker 5: go into this beautiful theater.
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.
Speaker 5: It's like it had like sort of a nautical theme
Speaker 5: and it was all white but the chairs were plush red.
Speaker 5: It looked stunning. But in children's theater, like unless there's
Speaker 5: a crew at the theater, you are loading that scenery
Speaker 5: and the costumes and everything with your cast, like you
Speaker 5: don't have someone doing that.
Speaker 2: So we're doing that.
Speaker 5: And the moment I stepped and walked onto the stage,
Speaker 5: I was like, ooh, what's that?
Speaker 2: Like? It just felt heavy.
Speaker 5: The way I can describe it to you is as
Speaker 5: if someone took their their their their palm and pressed
Speaker 5: it onto your chest. Like it felt like, oh, there's
Speaker 5: what's that like? It was heavy and really thick, and
Speaker 5: I said it out loud.
Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, the energy is something. Do you
Speaker 2: feel that?
Speaker 5: And my cast was like, oh stop it, uh stop,
Speaker 5: stop it.
Speaker 2: And I was like okay.
Speaker 5: But like the crew, because there was a crew at
Speaker 5: this theater, it was very rare, but it does happen.
Speaker 5: And they were like, oh yeah, this place is super haunted,
Speaker 5: and they started going off into how hard it was,
Speaker 5: and my cast was super like not into that. So
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, well I listened to everything, and
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, cool and down. So basically beloaded
Speaker 5: everything and I'm still feeling this energy and my cast
Speaker 5: just could not be bothered.
Speaker 2: They were not feeling anything. And I guess you know,
Speaker 2: when you're not open to it, you're not open to it. Whatever.
Speaker 2: So we go downstairs into this basement and.
Speaker 5: It's huge, so like all of us were able to
Speaker 5: get our own dressing room, which is kick ass. So
Speaker 5: I got to do my makeup and my vocal warmups
Speaker 5: by myself. But in this dressing room, I said desk
Speaker 5: in the email, but I guess I forgot the word vanity.
Speaker 2: So I'm at this vanity and it has the.
Speaker 5: Mirror with all the light bulbs, you know, a regular
Speaker 5: dressing room, but it has two chairs, and I'm sitting
Speaker 5: in one chair that I'm doing my makeup and doing
Speaker 5: my vocal warm ups.
Speaker 2: But there's also a chair like two inches from me,
Speaker 2: and I put my backpack.
Speaker 5: On it, so like I'm grabbing my stuff as I
Speaker 5: go along, and I'm doing my stuff. So I finished
Speaker 5: my makeup, and I finished my vocal warm ups and
Speaker 5: now I'm piecing the room, starting to sing the songs
Speaker 5: to get prepared. And then that energy comes back in
Speaker 5: full force, and I.
Speaker 2: Was like ooh.
Speaker 5: And then it was like a split second after I
Speaker 5: felt it, the presence whatever in the room, it was
Speaker 5: like there was a loud boom and I was like what.
Speaker 5: And my backpack on the second chair goes flying and
Speaker 5: I'm not kidding, flying to the end of the room,
Speaker 5: hits the door and rolls down. So I'm just staring
Speaker 5: at it for a few minutes. I'm not questioning. I'm
Speaker 5: just like WHOA. So I walk and I pick up
Speaker 5: the backpack and I didn't I didn't know why I
Speaker 5: instinctively did this, but whatever I did it, it happened.
Speaker 5: I basically said, I'm I'm so sorry. I didn't mean
Speaker 5: to invade your space. I'm sorry that I occupied two
Speaker 5: chairs instead of just one, and I apologize. So I
Speaker 5: put my backpack on the chair.
Speaker 2: That I was sitting in to.
Speaker 5: Do my makeup and left the second chair occupied.
Speaker 2: But so I walk.
Speaker 5: Away after I put the backpack on the chair that
Speaker 5: I sat in and I left the other chair, but
Speaker 5: that other chair slowly, like literally slowly pushes itself in,
Speaker 5: like into the vanity, and now I'm like.
Speaker 2: Shit, And.
Speaker 5: I just looked at it and I was like, I
Speaker 5: hope you don't mind me, like out loud, I hope
Speaker 5: you don't mind.
Speaker 2: Me warm up.
Speaker 5: But then the energy in the room after that moment lightened.
Speaker 5: It was still there, but I felt like the presence
Speaker 5: was just like I want to be acknowledged and I
Speaker 5: don't like that you used my chair.
Speaker 2: And then after I apologized, it was like chill. But
Speaker 2: that energy was.
Speaker 5: Was unmistake unmistakable. It was definitely in the room.
Speaker 1: Wow, well, Joey, it's been a pleasure. You have a
Speaker 1: million of them. I feel like you literally have so
Speaker 1: many good stores, and they're good stories, Joe.
Speaker 5: Besides all of these, like only two other things happened
Speaker 5: besides the the doppelganger, which I didn't really know that
Speaker 5: you called a doppelganger. I thought it was just a mimic.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I really enjoyed these experiences. I'm glad that
Speaker 5: they've happened to me. And for those of you who
Speaker 5: are not believers, once you have one experience, it'll change
Speaker 5: your whole perspective.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that as well.
Speaker 2: And I love you Ross. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Hello Annie, where are you?
Speaker 6: Hello? I am in Tucson.
Speaker 1: Watch Out, Tucson, Here we come. Do you know that
Speaker 1: movie Remy Michelle? Yes, Tucson. Yes, that's where they went
Speaker 1: to high school. They live out here, they lived in Venice, California,
Speaker 1: and then they go in the car. It's a great movie.
Speaker 1: People should check it out. Well, thank you for being.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. We also had a Revenge
Speaker 6: of the Nerds and Can't and another one Can't by
Speaker 6: any Love.
Speaker 1: Are you from Tucson?
Speaker 6: No, I'm from Iowa.
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I saw that you had a lot of
Speaker 1: different kinds of stories to talk about, So where should
Speaker 1: we start?
Speaker 6: So I feel like everything kind of always comes back
Speaker 6: around to my mother, who had passed away. October eighteenth
Speaker 6: was the four year anniversary of her passing and she
Speaker 6: always kind of seems a little bit stronger around that time.
Speaker 6: Her birthday is on November sixth. She always had like
Speaker 6: the best ghost stories when I was younger. She grew
Speaker 6: up in, you know, an old farm house in Iowa,
Speaker 6: so she she always had some really interesting and terrifying stories.
Speaker 6: Like I would get these bumps just listening to her
Speaker 6: stories or even trying to retell them. And she always
Speaker 6: thought that children were sort of open to different spirits
Speaker 6: in different worlds. And when I was very young, she
Speaker 6: would tell me stories that I would come up come
Speaker 6: up to her and say, you know, you're not my mother,
Speaker 6: and she she'd she'd be like, okay, who's your mother? Then,
Speaker 6: well she's in Pennsylvania. And my mom's like, okay, well interesting,
Speaker 6: And she walked up on me, uh like flicking my fingers,
Speaker 6: like snapping my fingers, and she's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 6: And I said, well, I used to be in the
Speaker 6: circus and I did light fires this way.
Speaker 1: And you could light fires by snapping. That's fabulous.
Speaker 6: Apparently in a past life that's that was something I
Speaker 6: could do. But yeah, my mom she was just kind
Speaker 6: of one of those like larger than life. Uh, you know,
Speaker 6: beautiful souls, super fun, very charismatic. People were drawn to her, uh,
Speaker 6: just very very deeply and her ana Sarah Sarah Jane.
Speaker 6: So I'm trying to keep everything in line. So recently,
Speaker 6: my niece was working as a waitress and this lady
Speaker 6: at her table asked her like, hey, can I show
Speaker 6: you something? And my niece was like, no, I don't
Speaker 6: really like she's trying to show her pictures of her caps,
Speaker 6: and then she left her a tip, and on she
Speaker 6: left her tip on the credit card, and then she
Speaker 6: left her dollar bill and it was my mother's initials,
Speaker 6: and she's like, I need you to have this and
Speaker 6: that like that was it, and the lady walked away,
Speaker 6: and my niece just kind of freaked out and came home.
Speaker 6: But she's most active at my at my old house
Speaker 6: where I grew up in Iowa. There's always stuff moving
Speaker 6: around and voices being heard, and I've had a couple
Speaker 6: of interesting things happen.
Speaker 1: What kind of stuff has happened at that house?
Speaker 6: So let's see. The weekend she passed away, I had,
Speaker 6: you know, a lot of a lot of my girlfriends
Speaker 6: came in from out of town to support me. And
Speaker 6: one girl was getting a little out of control, a
Speaker 6: little drunk, and it was about one already in the morning,
Speaker 6: two in the morning, and the coffee grinder just started
Speaker 6: going very loudly, And it was at a point where
Speaker 6: I think, like everyone has kind of had it with
Speaker 6: this girl and was like, Okay, this weekend is about you.
Speaker 6: She's kind of shut up already. And my mom was
Speaker 6: really good at passively aggressively telling people like, Okay, that's enough.
Speaker 6: So it was kind of funny that just popped on
Speaker 6: right at that time. And then later that year, I
Speaker 6: took my now boyfriend home and he had never met her,
Speaker 6: but he fell asleep in bed with me and woke
Speaker 6: up naked in my mom's bed and he does not
Speaker 6: sleep walk.
Speaker 1: Wait, how did that happen?
Speaker 6: I don't know. She okay, I will tell you this.
Speaker 6: She was a huge flirt. Young men loved her. Every
Speaker 6: all my guy friends, everyone loved my mom. Everyone was like,
Speaker 6: your mom is you know? I'm your mom's favorite. Everyone
Speaker 6: was always like buying for her attention because she was
Speaker 6: just just so fun, and so I thought it to
Speaker 6: me it was kind of my mom saying like, hey,
Speaker 6: he's a good one. You should keep this one around
Speaker 6: because in my relationship was pretty new at the time
Speaker 6: and he, like to this day, has never sleep blocked
Speaker 6: and he doesn't. He sleeps fully closed. I do not.
Speaker 6: He does, and he it was the winter time in Iowa,
Speaker 6: so he wouldn't have just like been make it for
Speaker 6: no reason. So he.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: My mom a notorious a notorious flirt. And then my aunt.
Speaker 6: So my mom divorced my dad when I was five
Speaker 6: and one of her best friends took us in, so
Speaker 6: she's basically like a second mom to us my whole life.
Speaker 6: And she still lives in this house that my mom
Speaker 6: passed away in, so she's constantly having experiences her. My
Speaker 6: other aunt have like heard my mom speaking to them
Speaker 6: like different things. My mom is an avid gardener, so
Speaker 6: her her gardening hats will be moved in different places.
Speaker 6: She gets a little freaked out. I think I have
Speaker 6: mentioned this in an email, so there could be possibly
Speaker 6: another spirit in the house of my mom's, but I
Speaker 6: think my mom is a more playful spirit. I wouldn't
Speaker 6: be scared of her, but I don't. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 6: know if there's something else in that house or not.
Speaker 1: Why do you say that, U so you was.
Speaker 6: Here visiting earlier this year, before the whole lockdown had happened.
Speaker 6: She would tell me some stories that just sounded a
Speaker 6: little bit more malicious, and it made me kind of
Speaker 6: think back to when we were in junior high. My
Speaker 6: girlfriends and I would play with the Ouigi board, and
Speaker 6: this one girlfriend, she was always a little bit I
Speaker 6: don't see, she just had a really hard childhood, so
Speaker 6: she was a little bit darker and I didn't fully
Speaker 6: understand where she was coming from. But she had a
Speaker 6: spirit that she said followed her from the time she
Speaker 6: was very young. And the first time she saw this
Speaker 6: entity is when she was five, and she remembers being
Speaker 6: in her bedroom and having a bed, but also having
Speaker 6: her old crib in the bedroom with all of her
Speaker 6: old toys and stuffed animals, and she woke up in
Speaker 6: the middle of the night and saw these green glowing
Speaker 6: eyes staring at her. And she's had a few of these,
Speaker 6: I know, like at the time, you know, she's telling
Speaker 6: us this story and we're playing with the Ouiji board,
Speaker 6: and we're like, you know, twelve thirteen years old, and
Speaker 6: she has called the same mister X, and we decided
Speaker 6: we were going to try to talk to mister X
Speaker 6: and we we talked to something or you know, could
Speaker 6: have been just the girls moving it and we would
Speaker 6: do it down in our basement sometimes. But this one
Speaker 6: particular time, I was having a sleepover and there's a
Speaker 6: few of us girls in my bedroom with nothing but
Speaker 6: candles on, and we asked this entity to show itself
Speaker 6: and on my wall in my bedroom, it's still like
Speaker 6: if you go back, it's still considered Annie's bedroom. Is
Speaker 6: this ghost outline of Freddy Krueger, like the hat, the claws, everything,
Speaker 6: and like just a room full of girls. We all
Speaker 6: screamed and turned on the lights and we were all
Speaker 6: kind of like freaking out and took us a minute.
Speaker 6: We're like, okay, we couldn't have really seen that, and
Speaker 6: we must have been seeing something. But we all like
Speaker 6: reported seeing the same thing, like nobody. We didn't prompt
Speaker 6: one another. We're like, did you see that? Did you
Speaker 6: see that?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 6: And we went back in. We turned all the candles
Speaker 6: back on, tried to recreate it, and we couldn't. There
Speaker 6: was like no shadow on the wall. So it was
Speaker 6: one of those moments we decided to stappling with we
Speaker 6: be bored at my house, and I just kind of,
Speaker 6: I guess, because I've been getting more into like freaky
Speaker 6: things and spooky things and believing that, and you know,
Speaker 6: listening to some of these stories, and I just, I
Speaker 6: guess I started freaking out, like, oh my gosh, today
Speaker 6: in frite something into my mom's house that maybe has
Speaker 6: just been dormant for years.
Speaker 1: So mister X could be there still.
Speaker 6: I get so and my girls. The girl's friend who
Speaker 6: it was, I actually reached out to her on face
Speaker 6: book this week and I said, Hey, have you had
Speaker 6: any experiences lately, like does this thing still follow you?
Speaker 6: And she said she hadn't had any in a while,
Speaker 6: but she told me not to be worried that it was.
Speaker 6: It didn't give me any more like reassurance or really
Speaker 6: go into it. I think it's probably a part of
Speaker 6: her life she doesn't really want to talk about anymore,
Speaker 6: and understandably.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, what was the story you were telling me
Speaker 1: about living in Okinawa?
Speaker 6: Okay? So Okinawa? I was stationed in there from nineteen
Speaker 6: ninety eight to two thousand and five, and he ever
Speaker 6: want some like really cool ghost stories, just like Google
Speaker 6: that they have this haunted hotel that they started buildings,
Speaker 6: but people kept dying and apparently it was on you know,
Speaker 6: hollowed grounds or where people had been buried, so they
Speaker 6: were never able to finish it. But the way they
Speaker 6: build in Okinawa is really structurally sound because they have
Speaker 6: typhoons so these cement and rebar so it's this very
Speaker 6: sturdy building. But it's just the bones of it. So
Speaker 6: you can go in and walk all through it.
Speaker 1: Everywhere dying like people were dying as they were making
Speaker 1: it building it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they had to stop, they had to stop
Speaker 6: construction on it. So I had gone through it once
Speaker 6: and my girlfriend and I took pictures outside we walked through.
Speaker 6: It's almost like this, I mean, it's this big, grand
Speaker 6: hotel and there's these giant rooms and you can go
Speaker 6: all the way to the top and like look out
Speaker 6: and see the whole island. And we realized when we
Speaker 6: got done, like after the whole day was over, we
Speaker 6: didn't take a single picture. We were like, wait, why
Speaker 6: didn't we take any pictures while we were in there?
Speaker 6: But you can probably google it and see, you know,
Speaker 6: the haunted hotels of Okinawa. But the place where I lived,
Speaker 6: it was one of the invasion points. I later found
Speaker 6: out after I had moved in, and I never I
Speaker 6: don't I could say I hadn't thought much of it.
Speaker 6: But whatever part of my apartment I was, and I
Speaker 6: always heard people talking in the on the other side.
Speaker 6: It was almost like a Shotgund style apartment. So it
Speaker 6: started with the kitchen and living room and then you
Speaker 6: go all the way back to the bedroom. But wherever
Speaker 6: I was in the apartment, there was always like background
Speaker 6: noise of people talking. And as I said, everything's very
Speaker 6: structurally built, so it's not like I was hearing something
Speaker 6: from outside. And then my neighbors that lived upstairs on
Speaker 6: the third floor, so every morning when they woke up,
Speaker 6: their lives were on and their doors were open, all
Speaker 6: their drawers, all their cabinets, everything would be open. So
Speaker 6: I am kind of absent minded with doors and being
Speaker 6: left open. I think I do that all on my own.
Speaker 6: So even if a ghost was trying to haunt me
Speaker 6: and leave doors open, and that wouldn't be a good
Speaker 6: help for me, because I do that all the time.
Speaker 1: I do too, I always have. It's so funny because
Speaker 1: I constantly found myself like I kept that open, right.
Speaker 1: I think I'm just looking for my experience.
Speaker 6: But oh my god, rab I had this stuff listening
Speaker 6: to your show in my house because there is a little.
Speaker 1: Girl that I get it. There's a logo that died
Speaker 1: in your house.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, when I the first time I came to
Speaker 6: the house before I bought it, that previous owners still
Speaker 6: lived here, so all of their stuff was here, and
Speaker 6: there was there was a bench out in the back
Speaker 6: yard that said, you know, to our our loving daughter sister.
Speaker 6: It was like a memorial bench, and it was like
Speaker 6: a girl that had died to say about eleven years old.
Speaker 6: And I wasn't really sure what happened, but there was
Speaker 6: pictures inside and there was you know, two girls. There
Speaker 6: was an older one and then a younger one who
Speaker 6: looked like maybe she had three girl palsy or or
Speaker 6: some kind of affect. I kind of like had this
Speaker 6: supicion that you know, something happened here because of what
Speaker 6: you know, the family that had owned this house since
Speaker 6: it was built in nineteen seventy nine was selling it
Speaker 6: and I bought the house in twenty eleven, but they
Speaker 6: were you know, divorcing and leaving this home. So it
Speaker 6: all just seems kind of strange to me. And then
Speaker 6: where I currently work. One of the girls and her
Speaker 6: best friends were best friends with the older sister that
Speaker 6: lived in this house, and they had been here before,
Speaker 6: and they confirmed for me that the office that I'm
Speaker 6: currently in, which is also has been the cat room
Speaker 6: in the past, was where she passed away. And I
Speaker 6: think I haven't seen her. I think I maybe get
Speaker 6: like glimpses out of the corner of my eye, and
Speaker 6: I think my cat can feel her present. But I think, obviously,
Speaker 6: I think she's a good soul. She's young, and I
Speaker 6: think she's happy with the animals that I keep in
Speaker 6: the house. And then for a brief time when my
Speaker 6: little brother lives here, I think he felt her and
Speaker 6: maybe saw her. But it's hard, hard to say, Wow.
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. How sometimes it's just like such a
Speaker 1: such a slight presence, you know, doesn't sound it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like it's like super haunted or anything. But yeah,
Speaker 1: how interesting. I've been ghosted too. Hello Dusty, Hello, Ras,
Speaker 1: where are you? Dusty?
Speaker 5: I am, Oh, you meet in my closet, ironically, but
Speaker 5: I am calling you from Fateville, Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Cool, You're like what maybe the first Arkansas?
Speaker 1: I mean I've talked to very few people from Haunted Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Well, it has its history.
Speaker 1: So what's going on with you? You grew up in
Speaker 1: a haunted house?
Speaker 5: I did, And yes, I grew up in Fort Smith, Arkansas,
Speaker 5: which was originally Hell on the Border. But that's it
Speaker 5: was originally what it was called Hell on the Border.
Speaker 5: It was the gateway to the West. But I didn't
Speaker 5: grow up in a house that old. This strange thing
Speaker 5: was is right out the gate. I'll just tell you mine.
Speaker 5: And then I, as an adult, I found out a
Speaker 5: little bit of what was going on. So when I
Speaker 5: was about ten years old, my parents for the first
Speaker 5: time left me home alone by myself. And they weren't
Speaker 5: very social people, but for some reason, at like eleven
Speaker 5: o'clock at night, they went to some friends for pie,
Speaker 5: which was very uncharacteristic of them. So I was lying
Speaker 5: down on the sofa in the living room and you know,
Speaker 5: growing up poor, we had this you know, old TV
Speaker 5: on top of the old big TV and it was
Speaker 5: one of those you know you had to get up
Speaker 5: and physically turned the knob.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: The joke is I was the remote control for my parents.
Speaker 5: So I was watching, you know, late night reruns of Cheers,
Speaker 5: and I fell asleep on this sofa and I woke
Speaker 5: up and the lights were sall still on because I
Speaker 5: dozed off, but the TV had been turned off, so
Speaker 5: I thought my parents came home and I just didn't
Speaker 5: hear them or something. So I just got up and
Speaker 5: I turned the TV back on because I still wasn't
Speaker 5: quite sleepy yet. Well, I did doze off again, and
Speaker 5: I woke up and the TV had been turned off again,
Speaker 5: so I looked out the window and saw their car
Speaker 5: wasn't there, and I kind of you know, peeked upstairs
Speaker 5: to see if they were, you know, or downstairs in
Speaker 5: the basement. Nobody was home, so I still didn't think
Speaker 5: much of it. And then the third time I dozed
Speaker 5: off and the television had been physically clicked turned off.
Speaker 5: And that's when I you know, being a gig kit,
Speaker 5: I didn't have a baseball bet, but I had a
Speaker 5: little toy wooden sword, and then I searched the entire
Speaker 5: house and I just stayed home with that like a
Speaker 5: battle axe over my shoulder until they got home, because
Speaker 5: I didn't know if someone had broken in or what.
Speaker 5: But there was no explanation for how someone else could
Speaker 5: have turned that television off.
Speaker 2: I found out.
Speaker 5: Later in life of why, you know, I had other
Speaker 5: things like when I was an adult, I saw paranormal
Speaker 5: activity and I had PTSD from watching that. Because suddenly
Speaker 5: everything in my childhood came to realization.
Speaker 2: I grew up.
Speaker 5: Because I just hit it away, because my mom believed
Speaker 5: ghosts are all demons, and my dad believed that we
Speaker 5: can't explain, you know, what's going on. Maybe it's a
Speaker 5: time lapse in the dimensions or whatever, and I don't
Speaker 5: have my own I love listening to your show because
Speaker 5: it expands my brain on all the possible theories that
Speaker 5: different things could be. So I found out that well,
Speaker 5: as I started to say, I would have someone sit
Speaker 5: on my bed in the middle of the night and
Speaker 5: I would just keep the blanket over my head and
Speaker 5: not look. And that happened multiple times, or I mean
Speaker 5: a couple of times where it was like that, you know,
Speaker 5: you could feel them step over your body onto the
Speaker 5: other side of the bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh way, So as if they're like standing on
Speaker 1: your bed or what do you mean, like, what would
Speaker 1: you think.
Speaker 2: It could have been standing?
Speaker 5: It could have been like you know, like if your
Speaker 5: parent sits down the side of the bed and leans
Speaker 5: one arm over on the other side of your feet.
Speaker 2: It could have been something like that.
Speaker 5: I also had another incident where I was asleep in
Speaker 5: the living room and I had sleep paralysis. But it
Speaker 5: wasn't like a moment. It was a long time, like
Speaker 5: on the Haunting of Hill House. Like I was lying
Speaker 5: there staring at the ceiling and felt like I was
Speaker 5: being choked so badly that I had When I could
Speaker 5: finally move, I went and woke up my mom and
Speaker 5: told her I was I mean. She could hear I
Speaker 5: wasn't breathing, and she had asthma, so she let me
Speaker 5: use her in haler. But ros I don't have asthma,
Speaker 5: so that freaked me out real bad.
Speaker 1: Now, when you say you felt like you're being choked,
Speaker 1: could you feel like did it feel like a human
Speaker 1: person's hands basically or yeah?
Speaker 2: Like restricted? Yeah, like hands constricting my throat.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so scary.
Speaker 5: And I just yeah, And I felt that weird presence.
Speaker 5: So I found out from my mom years later that
Speaker 5: one one of my great grandmothers had passed away in
Speaker 5: the home when I was a child, So some of
Speaker 5: the spookiness I kind of gave myself a theory of
Speaker 5: maybe Grandma was turning the TV off so I could sleep.
Speaker 5: But but as far as like the choking, there was
Speaker 5: also a woman that lived in the house before that
Speaker 5: cut down like every tree in the yard if a
Speaker 5: kid climbed it, and that was kind of spooky. Like
Speaker 5: one time, I uh, when I started, I started closing
Speaker 5: the bedroom door to lock out bad juju when I
Speaker 5: would sleep there, because I did have a nightmare that
Speaker 5: I was chopping people up with an and I've never.
Speaker 2: Had something like that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: But another one that you'll appreciate this story.
Speaker 5: My mother had an experience too, and in the same
Speaker 5: house before I was born, and it was shortly after
Speaker 5: her mother had passed away and she had trouble sleeping.
Speaker 2: I asked her a lot of questions recently to.
Speaker 5: Get more details so I could tell you her story
Speaker 5: because she doesn't like talking about it, because I told you.
Speaker 2: She has a different theory on these things. But we have.
Speaker 5: It was very small home, so we had the stair.
Speaker 5: The wall that divided the stairs from the front door
Speaker 5: for privacy was just wrapped in those glass tile mirrors,
Speaker 5: so we called it the wall mirrors, and so she
Speaker 5: was walking. She got up to get a drink of water,
Speaker 5: and she said she already felt something weird was going on.
Speaker 5: And then as she started to walk up the stairs
Speaker 5: where there's that thickness of the wall that's just that
Speaker 5: four to six inches of mirror from Florida ceiling, she
Speaker 5: froze and could not move, and she saw in the
Speaker 5: reflection behind her her mother. And I asked her to
Speaker 5: describe it to me, and she said it was the
Speaker 5: clothes that her mother was buried in and that translucent style,
Speaker 5: because I know you're going to ask, and.
Speaker 2: She said she.
Speaker 5: Looked at that reflection and she said to this spirit,
Speaker 5: you're not my mother, and then it disappeared and then
Speaker 5: she was able to move.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's you know, so she believes that,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a demon or raping impersonating. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you believe that it was possibly your great grandmother
Speaker 1: was in the house and then some kind of of
Speaker 1: demon or whatever dark dark force.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there could have been something that tried to take
Speaker 5: opportunity that didn't care for me as much. And maybe,
Speaker 5: you know, like I said, maybe it was a comforting
Speaker 5: thing of like the television. You know, maybe maybe in
Speaker 5: the bedroom of what was sitting on the bed was
Speaker 5: just you know, watching a grandchild sleep.
Speaker 1: But I think about the choking.
Speaker 5: The choking one is the one that I can't figure out.
Speaker 5: That that one, that one freaked me.
Speaker 2: Out a lot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it all freaked me out for years until
Speaker 5: I found out about, you know, the passing with Gramma
Speaker 5: in the house, and I thought maybe that was her
Speaker 5: lingering and kind of it made me feel a little better.
Speaker 5: But I'd always been like, I refuse to talk about
Speaker 5: what happened in the house.
Speaker 2: In the house, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I get that. I I feel like it
Speaker 1: could hear me, who's listening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want it to know, so we never
Speaker 5: talk about it in the house anyway. Yeah, I have
Speaker 5: other little ones. I could go on of other short
Speaker 5: stories or if that's good for you, or.
Speaker 1: No, give me a short one, give me, yeah, give
Speaker 1: it to me. I got a couple of minutes.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I will tell you because I listened if
Speaker 5: you and the thing I think the creepiest for you
Speaker 5: would be my sister would kill me if I tell
Speaker 5: you this.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to my niece who's now an adult
Speaker 2: with her own child. When she was a little girl,
Speaker 2: she was sensitive and could see things. She had the
Speaker 2: six sense.
Speaker 5: And it freaked my sister out and she didn't like
Speaker 5: encourage it because it scared her and she didn't want
Speaker 5: her daughter to be scared. So the two incidents I
Speaker 5: remember my sister telling me my daughter saw someone was
Speaker 5: one at a friend's townhouse. You know, they have those
Speaker 5: long stairs going up to the second floor. My niece
Speaker 5: was looking upstairs and the uh, the owner she had
Speaker 5: It was just her and her teenage daughter that lived there,
Speaker 5: and my sister was talking to her friend and my
Speaker 5: niece said, why is your daughter, you know, soaking wet
Speaker 5: up there? And my sister's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5: She's not even here, And she said, oh play, you know,
Speaker 5: she's not even here. What are you talking about? And
Speaker 5: then her friend said, oh shit, did I think she
Speaker 5: saw our friend? And my sister said what she said, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we've had some weird stuff happen in the bathroom. And
Speaker 5: the way my niece described it was it was a
Speaker 5: girl that was in clothes just soaking wet and long
Speaker 5: wet hair like Samara from the Ring basically, you know,
Speaker 5: just standing there and she saw her upstairs and was
Speaker 5: told to ignore it and go along. And the other
Speaker 5: time was their family was traveling and stayed at a
Speaker 5: motel like one of those sweets where it has, you know,
Speaker 5: the pull out sofas and all that stuff. And my
Speaker 5: niece told her parents the next morning she asked, who
Speaker 5: was that man that came.
Speaker 2: In last night? And he said, honey, nobody came in
Speaker 2: the room last night. It's just us. We're just trying.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
Speaker 5: She described a man in a suit and very old, like,
Speaker 5: you know, my sister asked the questions of you know,
Speaker 5: like an old hat, like a nineteen thirties madmen kind
Speaker 5: of thing. And he walked into the hotel room and
Speaker 5: looked over them while they were sleeping, and then just
Speaker 5: kind of dissipated out through the wall.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, does she still have these experiences or
Speaker 1: was it just as a kid?
Speaker 5: I haven't asked her recently, because, like I said, her
Speaker 5: mother would kill me. But it was as a kid,
Speaker 5: because her mother didn't want, you know, to scare her
Speaker 5: of like, well, honey, you just saw a ghost a
Speaker 5: dead person, you know, because she was she was a
Speaker 5: very sense that She's one of those ball of light
Speaker 5: people that you know, hugs everyone in the room and
Speaker 5: just has that ball of bride energy. So if she
Speaker 5: experienced that, who knows, I mean, who knows how she
Speaker 5: would react. I kind would that she would have gone
Speaker 5: into it, you know, in a safe way.
Speaker 1: But but those people, like the first friends that they
Speaker 1: were having like paranormal activity happening in their bathroom. You're saying, yeah, like.
Speaker 5: Sometimes stuff would be knocked off or I can't remember.
Speaker 5: I should have contacted them to ask about you know,
Speaker 5: something may have happened with the bathtub of you know,
Speaker 5: I can't recall, but I do know that she said specifically.
Speaker 5: And my sister said, do you dare tell my daughter
Speaker 5: that you have a ghost in your bathroom that she
Speaker 5: just saw at the top of the stairs soaking wet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Erry, well do Stee. Thank you so much for calling.
Speaker 2: I think, thank you. This is so fun.
Speaker 5: I love this show and I love hearing all the theories.
Speaker 5: And one thing I absolutely have to tell you is
Speaker 5: my favorite thing about you, Ross is I can always
Speaker 5: hear the smile in your voice no matter what you're talking.
Speaker 5: You're so genuine and I wish I could see what
Speaker 5: drag you're wearing right now.
Speaker 1: Oh it's cool, gees, let me tell you.
Speaker 5: Your voice no matter what you're talking, you're so genuine
Speaker 5: and I wish I could see what drag you're wearing
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to everyone that was on today's episode. Again,
Speaker 1: if you want to hear that bonus story from Joey
Speaker 1: talking about the haunted dorms that he stayed in that
Speaker 1: used to be an institution, and it's one of these
Speaker 1: places that seems to have like not just a couple
Speaker 1: of ghosts, like a lot of different kinds of ghosts.
Speaker 1: And so Joey tells that story on Patreon on the
Speaker 1: second tier of Patreon called on with the show. And
Speaker 1: if you're on the first tier of Patreon and the
Speaker 1: second tier, because if you're on the second tier you
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