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Speaker 4: But other than that, that's all we knew.

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Speaker 3: We feel like there besides that like creepy energy, oh

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not too scared.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm over here terrified. But okay, if you could

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do not wash our faces in the scenk anymore.

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Speaker 1: There's a ghost in my house. Hello, we have got

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Speaker 1: the back by popular demand, Joey from Quebec. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I am great.

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Speaker 5: It's five thirty here in Quebec and it's pitch black,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, well, I was reading you sent me

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Speaker 1: the paranormal loves you. So what is going on? First

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Speaker 1: of all, why does the paranormal love you so much?

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Speaker 2: Honestly?

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Speaker 5: From when I was, I mean as young as I

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Speaker 5: can remember, my family just always called me an old soul,

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Speaker 1: Are you do you think that you're like a psychic psychic?

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Speaker 1: Well, you sent me like a bunch of stories. I'm

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Speaker 5: How about we visit well, you know what, since everyone

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Speaker 5: Babylon story. So basically, this is a spiritual well it is,

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Speaker 5: it's about past lives basically. So picture it Staten Island.

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Speaker 5: And then she kept hearing me talking and speaking to

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Speaker 5: So she comes over and she's like, Joey, who taught

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Speaker 2: And my mom told me like she was really confused,

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Speaker 5: She was like, Joey, what do you mean we lived

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Speaker 5: I was like, no, tell me. She was like, used

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Speaker 5: So like if my mom had that, maybe it would

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, And I mean if you say that you

442
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: were alive in Babylon, that's like that when people say,

443
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: oh that you're an old soul, Like that's an old soul, right,

444
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: that means you've been around for a minute.

445
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: Girl.

446
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: I mean, well, but there's also maybe the timeline wouldn't

447
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: add up. But also I don't know if you ever

448
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: watched the TV show Queer as Folk, but the gay

449
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: bar in that show was called Babylon.

450
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 5: But I think I had my career awakening during that

451
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 5: show because my parents used to watch it. And then

452
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 5: when I would see the bathhouse, I was like, oh,

453
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 5: I'm relating to this on a level, I'm relating to this.

454
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: So you also were telling me about you had like

455
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: a UFO or okay, an alien.

456
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 5: Exact this because ghosts don't scare me, honestly, like, I'm

457
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 5: not scared by that, but this stuff that was wild

458
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 5: because I had so there were so many people with me,

459
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 5: and we were all like, what.

460
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's set the sea.

461
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 5: I am like in my early twenties and I'm visiting

462
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 5: from New York and all my friends from Florida.

463
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 2: They come over to my house and we go to

464
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: my bedroom and.

465
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 5: We go on my balcony and I have a nice

466
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 5: patio and we're all chilling and it's like six of

467
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 5: us plus my sister, and we're all chilling and talking

468
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 5: and then like we all like stopped talking because the

469
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 5: patio furniture started like vibrating, and so.

470
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 2: We're like, what the hell is?

471
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 5: So it's probably a plane, right, Well, it's not a plane.

472
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 5: We look just above, like just above us, not like

473
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 5: in this like totally up in the sky.

474
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: There's a swarm of what we thought were bees or

475
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: wasp because of the sound. It was like a like

476
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: a something like that. However, this was not that.

477
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 5: They were about the size of a marble and they

478
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 5: were jet black like black like it almost looked.

479
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Like animation, Like it was so.

480
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 5: Not like it looked like it just didn't belong like

481
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 5: in our sky.

482
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: Right.

483
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 5: So we're all just like mesmerized by this, and then

484
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 5: we're starting to panic, and then it gets eye level

485
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 5: with us, like not like not looking at us.

486
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: It didn't have eyes or anything like that, but.

487
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 5: Like it was in front of our eyes, like on

488
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: our eye level, like we're all sitting around a table,

489
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 5: and it just like kind of in my opinion, it

490
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 5: didn't have eyes, but like it like saw us, like

491
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 5: acknowledged us. And then one by one, me and my

492
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 5: friend started running back into my bedroom and jumped on

493
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 5: my bed and we're for like a good twenty minutes

494
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 5: we were like what the f was that?

495
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 2: And honestly, like that was not ghosts.

496
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 5: I just feel like that was a sort of extraterrestrial experience,

497
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 5: and that was wild.

498
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: But you say that they were they the size of

499
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: a marble when they were eye level.

500
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 5: Absolutely, they were the same size the whole time, like

501
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 5: a large marble.

502
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 6: It was.

503
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: The wildest thing of everything.

504
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,959
Speaker 1: You don't think it was like a drone or anything

505
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: like that.

506
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 5: No, I don't know if did we have drones in

507
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 5: like two thousand and ten. I'm sure we did. I

508
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 5: don't know about technology. I'm not good with it. But

509
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: it was so beyond anything any of us had ever

510
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 5: seen that we were And most of my friends then

511
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 5: were not spiritual or believers or anything, so like it

512
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 5: really gave them pause.

513
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: They were like, what the f was at?

514
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Interesting?

515
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

516
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't know much about that kind of stuff, but

517
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I love hearing it me too. Okay, tell me another one.

518
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: What about publics? Publics ps? Publics? So that's a big

519
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,239
Speaker 1: grocery chain in Florida. And when I was a kid,

520
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I would vacation in Florida. And when I was learning

521
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: how to read, I used to say I used to

522
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: call it pubics. For some reason, I just couldn't The

523
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: l just blurred into the eye for me, and I

524
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: would say, let's.

525
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: Go to pubics. I'm pretty sure something tell me about

526
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: pubic jokes, say pubic.

527
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: So this is the same publics in Sunrise, Florida that

528
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: I had my witch angel experience, and this is such.

529
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: As So anybody that doesn't know what I'm we're talking about,

530
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: go listen to the last Listener episode that Joey was on,

531
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: which was last month, and you encountered this angel, which

532
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: magical woman at the publics.

533
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is I guess several several months later.

534
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 5: And I didn't know at the time because I'm a kid.

535
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 5: My parents are going through a lot of financial difficulties,

536
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 5: but I didn't realize that because we were happy. But

537
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 5: we go into the publics in Sunrise and I'm going

538
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 5: through the aisles and I noticed this guy in a

539
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 5: public's uniform with the apron and everything, and he's smiling

540
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 5: at me when we walked in, and I smiled back.

541
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: And when we're in this the Cereal aisle, I see

542
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 5: him at the end of the aisle smiling at me

543
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 5: and he's.

544
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: Pointing and I was like, okay, what is he putting at?

545
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 5: So I look and he's pointing at this specific box

546
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 5: of Captain Crunch.

547
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: That's specific my favorite. I know, I love Capty Crunch.

548
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it.

549
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 5: So he's pointing at the cereal and then when he

550
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 5: sees that I know what he's pointing at.

551
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: He's like he was making a motion to like move

552
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: the box.

553
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 5: So I moved the box and there's this large white

554
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 5: envelope there. And then as I am about to take

555
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: the envelope, he points at me again, and he points

556
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 5: at the envelope and he points at my mother and he.

557
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Does it twice. So I was like, okay, okay, I'm

558
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: going to do that.

559
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 5: So I take the envelope and I ran to my

560
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 5: mother with the grocery cart, and I was like, mom, here,

561
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: that man told me to give it to you. And

562
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 5: she opens the envelope and there's three thousand dollars in it.

563
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: She could not.

564
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 5: Believe it, and she well, she told me when I

565
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: was older, like she was so afraid to take it.

566
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 5: She like didn't understand it. But she saw the public's

567
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 5: man like he was there.

568
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: And then the man that was pointing she saw him too.

569
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she saw him too.

570
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 5: And then he went away and we did our shopping

571
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 5: and we were able to get more soft obviously, and

572
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: he bagged our groceries like he bagged our groceries like

573
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 5: we were. He the woman scanning our groceries wasn't really

574
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: making eye contact with him or speaking to him, but

575
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: I think I was. I don't remember anything I said.

576
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: My mom was just shaking and she just really wanted

577
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 5: to leave, but like, the man kept smiling and talking

578
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 5: to me. So he Back in the day, the bagger

579
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 5: would walk you to your car with the with your

580
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 5: grocery card groceries. So he did that, and so we

581
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 5: put the stuff away, and my mom just didn't know

582
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 5: what to do. So she was like, I'm giving him

583
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 5: five dollars. So she goes to give him five dollars

584
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 5: and like literally, he just put the bags into the

585
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 5: trunk and he was gone, and my mom was like,

586
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 5: get in the car, stay here. And my mom runs

587
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 5: to back into Publics, and I guess like maybe three

588
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 5: four minutes go by. She comes out and she looks

589
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 5: shaken and freaked out, like I can tell when my

590
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 5: mom is like that. She comes back into the car

591
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 5: and she says to me, the people are Publics told me,

592
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 5: no man like that works there. The man that we

593
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 5: were talking to and so we just what is going

594
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 5: on in this public So my mom was like, Joey,

595
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 5: that was an angel. That angel gave us a miracle.

596
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: And I was like, he doesn't work there, and she

597
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 5: was like, they said, no one with.

598
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: That description has ever worked there, and we were just.

599
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: They have a uniform on or anything.

600
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: He had the.

601
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 5: Whole uniform on, the whole apron and everything. So m

602
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: but what I remember specifically was the woman that was

603
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: scanning the groceries and then it rolls down and then

604
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 5: the guy bags it. She was not looking at him,

605
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 5: not acknowledging him, and when I was speaking to him,

606
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 5: it was as if she did.

607
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: Not see him.

608
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 5: And my mom was just so freaked out, like she

609
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 5: was just like, whoa, this really happened. We always tell

610
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 5: this story to all our friend and family like it

611
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 5: really happened. But then again, my family really believes in

612
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 5: angels and things like that, so it wasn't a shock

613
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: to us, but it was definitely a miracle.

614
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: It was. It was a wonderful story.

615
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Wow, that is so cool. Okay, let's do one more. Okay,

616
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: let's do when you were doing children's theater.

617
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, so this was pretty cool.

618
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 5: I was in a touring children's theater in Philly, but like,

619
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 5: we go all over the place, and this time we

620
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 5: were in Texas and we did the entire place of Texas.

621
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: I don't remember where. I have a feeling.

622
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 5: It was something called Nagado Chase, but I'm not a

623
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 5: hard I'm sure, but I remember that name. Being crazy,

624
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: I was like, this is a real place. So we

625
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 5: go into this beautiful theater.

626
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: It's so beautiful.

627
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: It's like it had like sort of a nautical theme

628
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 5: and it was all white but the chairs were plush red.

629
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 5: It looked stunning. But in children's theater, like unless there's

630
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 5: a crew at the theater, you are loading that scenery

631
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 5: and the costumes and everything with your cast, like you

632
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 5: don't have someone doing that.

633
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 2: So we're doing that.

634
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 5: And the moment I stepped and walked onto the stage,

635
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 5: I was like, ooh, what's that?

636
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: Like? It just felt heavy.

637
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: The way I can describe it to you is as

638
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 5: if someone took their their their their palm and pressed

639
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 5: it onto your chest. Like it felt like, oh, there's

640
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 5: what's that like? It was heavy and really thick, and

641
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: I said it out loud.

642
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: I was like, ooh, the energy is something. Do you

643
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: feel that?

644
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 5: And my cast was like, oh stop it, uh stop,

645
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: stop it.

646
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: And I was like okay.

647
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 5: But like the crew, because there was a crew at

648
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: this theater, it was very rare, but it does happen.

649
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: And they were like, oh yeah, this place is super haunted,

650
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 5: and they started going off into how hard it was,

651
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 5: and my cast was super like not into that. So

652
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, well I listened to everything, and

653
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, cool and down. So basically beloaded

654
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 5: everything and I'm still feeling this energy and my cast

655
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 5: just could not be bothered.

656
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: They were not feeling anything. And I guess you know,

657
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: when you're not open to it, you're not open to it. Whatever.

658
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: So we go downstairs into this basement and.

659
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 5: It's huge, so like all of us were able to

660
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 5: get our own dressing room, which is kick ass. So

661
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 5: I got to do my makeup and my vocal warmups

662
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 5: by myself. But in this dressing room, I said desk

663
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 5: in the email, but I guess I forgot the word vanity.

664
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 2: So I'm at this vanity and it has the.

665
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: Mirror with all the light bulbs, you know, a regular

666
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 5: dressing room, but it has two chairs, and I'm sitting

667
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 5: in one chair that I'm doing my makeup and doing

668
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 5: my vocal warm ups.

669
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: But there's also a chair like two inches from me,

670
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: and I put my backpack.

671
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 5: On it, so like I'm grabbing my stuff as I

672
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: go along, and I'm doing my stuff. So I finished

673
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 5: my makeup, and I finished my vocal warm ups and

674
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 5: now I'm piecing the room, starting to sing the songs

675
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 5: to get prepared. And then that energy comes back in

676
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 5: full force, and I.

677
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: Was like ooh.

678
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 5: And then it was like a split second after I

679
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: felt it, the presence whatever in the room, it was

680
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: like there was a loud boom and I was like what.

681
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 5: And my backpack on the second chair goes flying and

682
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 5: I'm not kidding, flying to the end of the room,

683
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 5: hits the door and rolls down. So I'm just staring

684
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 5: at it for a few minutes. I'm not questioning. I'm

685
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: just like WHOA. So I walk and I pick up

686
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 5: the backpack and I didn't I didn't know why I

687
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 5: instinctively did this, but whatever I did it, it happened.

688
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 5: I basically said, I'm I'm so sorry. I didn't mean

689
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 5: to invade your space. I'm sorry that I occupied two

690
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: chairs instead of just one, and I apologize. So I

691
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 5: put my backpack on the chair.

692
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: That I was sitting in to.

693
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 5: Do my makeup and left the second chair occupied.

694
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: But so I walk.

695
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 5: Away after I put the backpack on the chair that

696
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 5: I sat in and I left the other chair, but

697
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: that other chair slowly, like literally slowly pushes itself in,

698
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 5: like into the vanity, and now I'm like.

699
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: Shit, And.

700
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 5: I just looked at it and I was like, I

701
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 5: hope you don't mind me, like out loud, I hope

702
00:39:59,000 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 5: you don't mind.

703
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 2: Me warm up.

704
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 5: But then the energy in the room after that moment lightened.

705
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 5: It was still there, but I felt like the presence

706
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 5: was just like I want to be acknowledged and I

707
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 5: don't like that you used my chair.

708
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: And then after I apologized, it was like chill. But

709
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: that energy was.

710
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 5: Was unmistake unmistakable. It was definitely in the room.

711
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: Wow, well, Joey, it's been a pleasure. You have a

712
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: million of them. I feel like you literally have so

713
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: many good stores, and they're good stories, Joe.

714
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 5: Besides all of these, like only two other things happened

715
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: besides the the doppelganger, which I didn't really know that

716
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 5: you called a doppelganger. I thought it was just a mimic.

717
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 5: But yeah, I really enjoyed these experiences. I'm glad that

718
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: they've happened to me. And for those of you who

719
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 5: are not believers, once you have one experience, it'll change

720
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: your whole perspective.

721
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe that as well.

722
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 2: And I love you Ross. Thank you so much.

723
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Hello Annie, where are you?

724
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 6: Hello? I am in Tucson.

725
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: Watch Out, Tucson, Here we come. Do you know that

726
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: movie Remy Michelle? Yes, Tucson. Yes, that's where they went

727
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: to high school. They live out here, they lived in Venice, California,

728
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: and then they go in the car. It's a great movie.

729
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: People should check it out. Well, thank you for being.

730
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. We also had a Revenge

731
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 6: of the Nerds and Can't and another one Can't by

732
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 6: any Love.

733
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: Are you from Tucson?

734
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 6: No, I'm from Iowa.

735
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay. Well, I saw that you had a lot of

736
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: different kinds of stories to talk about, So where should

737
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: we start?

738
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 6: So I feel like everything kind of always comes back

739
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 6: around to my mother, who had passed away. October eighteenth

740
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 6: was the four year anniversary of her passing and she

741
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 6: always kind of seems a little bit stronger around that time.

742
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 6: Her birthday is on November sixth. She always had like

743
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 6: the best ghost stories when I was younger. She grew

744
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 6: up in, you know, an old farm house in Iowa,

745
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 6: so she she always had some really interesting and terrifying stories.

746
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 6: Like I would get these bumps just listening to her

747
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 6: stories or even trying to retell them. And she always

748
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 6: thought that children were sort of open to different spirits

749
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 6: in different worlds. And when I was very young, she

750
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 6: would tell me stories that I would come up come

751
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 6: up to her and say, you know, you're not my mother,

752
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 6: and she she'd she'd be like, okay, who's your mother? Then,

753
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 6: well she's in Pennsylvania. And my mom's like, okay, well interesting,

754
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 6: And she walked up on me, uh like flicking my fingers,

755
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 6: like snapping my fingers, and she's like, what are you doing?

756
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 6: And I said, well, I used to be in the

757
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 6: circus and I did light fires this way.

758
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: And you could light fires by snapping. That's fabulous.

759
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 6: Apparently in a past life that's that was something I

760
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 6: could do. But yeah, my mom she was just kind

761
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 6: of one of those like larger than life. Uh, you know,

762
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 6: beautiful souls, super fun, very charismatic. People were drawn to her, uh,

763
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:51,240
Speaker 6: just very very deeply and her ana Sarah Sarah Jane.

764
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 6: So I'm trying to keep everything in line. So recently,

765
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 6: my niece was working as a waitress and this lady

766
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 6: at her table asked her like, hey, can I show

767
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 6: you something? And my niece was like, no, I don't

768
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 6: really like she's trying to show her pictures of her caps,

769
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 6: and then she left her a tip, and on she

770
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 6: left her tip on the credit card, and then she

771
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 6: left her dollar bill and it was my mother's initials,

772
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 6: and she's like, I need you to have this and

773
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 6: that like that was it, and the lady walked away,

774
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 6: and my niece just kind of freaked out and came home.

775
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 6: But she's most active at my at my old house

776
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 6: where I grew up in Iowa. There's always stuff moving

777
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 6: around and voices being heard, and I've had a couple

778
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 6: of interesting things happen.

779
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: What kind of stuff has happened at that house?

780
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 6: So let's see. The weekend she passed away, I had,

781
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 6: you know, a lot of a lot of my girlfriends

782
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 6: came in from out of town to support me. And

783
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 6: one girl was getting a little out of control, a

784
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 6: little drunk, and it was about one already in the morning,

785
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 6: two in the morning, and the coffee grinder just started

786
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 6: going very loudly, And it was at a point where

787
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 6: I think, like everyone has kind of had it with

788
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 6: this girl and was like, Okay, this weekend is about you.

789
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 6: She's kind of shut up already. And my mom was

790
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 6: really good at passively aggressively telling people like, Okay, that's enough.

791
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 6: So it was kind of funny that just popped on

792
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 6: right at that time. And then later that year, I

793
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 6: took my now boyfriend home and he had never met her,

794
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 6: but he fell asleep in bed with me and woke

795
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 6: up naked in my mom's bed and he does not

796
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:35,919
Speaker 6: sleep walk.

797
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: Wait, how did that happen?

798
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 6: I don't know. She okay, I will tell you this.

799
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 6: She was a huge flirt. Young men loved her. Every

800
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 6: all my guy friends, everyone loved my mom. Everyone was like,

801
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 6: your mom is you know? I'm your mom's favorite. Everyone

802
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 6: was always like buying for her attention because she was

803
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 6: just just so fun, and so I thought it to

804
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 6: me it was kind of my mom saying like, hey,

805
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 6: he's a good one. You should keep this one around

806
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 6: because in my relationship was pretty new at the time

807
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 6: and he, like to this day, has never sleep blocked

808
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 6: and he doesn't. He sleeps fully closed. I do not.

809
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 6: He does, and he it was the winter time in Iowa,

810
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 6: so he wouldn't have just like been make it for

811
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 6: no reason. So he.

812
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

813
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 6: My mom a notorious a notorious flirt. And then my aunt.

814
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 6: So my mom divorced my dad when I was five

815
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 6: and one of her best friends took us in, so

816
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 6: she's basically like a second mom to us my whole life.

817
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 6: And she still lives in this house that my mom

818
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 6: passed away in, so she's constantly having experiences her. My

819
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 6: other aunt have like heard my mom speaking to them

820
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: like different things. My mom is an avid gardener, so

821
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 6: her her gardening hats will be moved in different places.

822
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 6: She gets a little freaked out. I think I have

823
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 6: mentioned this in an email, so there could be possibly

824
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 6: another spirit in the house of my mom's, but I

825
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 6: think my mom is a more playful spirit. I wouldn't

826
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 6: be scared of her, but I don't. Yeah, I don't

827
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 6: know if there's something else in that house or not.

828
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: Why do you say that, U so you was.

829
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 6: Here visiting earlier this year, before the whole lockdown had happened.

830
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 6: She would tell me some stories that just sounded a

831
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 6: little bit more malicious, and it made me kind of

832
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 6: think back to when we were in junior high. My

833
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 6: girlfriends and I would play with the Ouigi board, and

834
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 6: this one girlfriend, she was always a little bit I

835
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 6: don't see, she just had a really hard childhood, so

836
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 6: she was a little bit darker and I didn't fully

837
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 6: understand where she was coming from. But she had a

838
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 6: spirit that she said followed her from the time she

839
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 6: was very young. And the first time she saw this

840
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 6: entity is when she was five, and she remembers being

841
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 6: in her bedroom and having a bed, but also having

842
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 6: her old crib in the bedroom with all of her

843
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 6: old toys and stuffed animals, and she woke up in

844
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 6: the middle of the night and saw these green glowing

845
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 6: eyes staring at her. And she's had a few of these,

846
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 6: I know, like at the time, you know, she's telling

847
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 6: us this story and we're playing with the Ouiji board,

848
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 6: and we're like, you know, twelve thirteen years old, and

849
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 6: she has called the same mister X, and we decided

850
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 6: we were going to try to talk to mister X

851
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 6: and we we talked to something or you know, could

852
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 6: have been just the girls moving it and we would

853
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 6: do it down in our basement sometimes. But this one

854
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 6: particular time, I was having a sleepover and there's a

855
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 6: few of us girls in my bedroom with nothing but

856
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 6: candles on, and we asked this entity to show itself

857
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 6: and on my wall in my bedroom, it's still like

858
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 6: if you go back, it's still considered Annie's bedroom. Is

859
00:48:55,400 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 6: this ghost outline of Freddy Krueger, like the hat, the claws, everything,

860
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 6: and like just a room full of girls. We all

861
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 6: screamed and turned on the lights and we were all

862
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 6: kind of like freaking out and took us a minute.

863
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 6: We're like, okay, we couldn't have really seen that, and

864
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 6: we must have been seeing something. But we all like

865
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 6: reported seeing the same thing, like nobody. We didn't prompt

866
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 6: one another. We're like, did you see that? Did you

867
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 6: see that?

868
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: Yes?

869
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 6: And we went back in. We turned all the candles

870
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 6: back on, tried to recreate it, and we couldn't. There

871
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 6: was like no shadow on the wall. So it was

872
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 6: one of those moments we decided to stappling with we

873
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 6: be bored at my house, and I just kind of,

874
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 6: I guess, because I've been getting more into like freaky

875
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 6: things and spooky things and believing that, and you know,

876
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 6: listening to some of these stories, and I just, I

877
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 6: guess I started freaking out, like, oh my gosh, today

878
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 6: in frite something into my mom's house that maybe has

879
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 6: just been dormant for years.

880
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: So mister X could be there still.

881
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 6: I get so and my girls. The girl's friend who

882
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 6: it was, I actually reached out to her on face

883
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 6: book this week and I said, Hey, have you had

884
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 6: any experiences lately, like does this thing still follow you?

885
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 6: And she said she hadn't had any in a while,

886
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 6: but she told me not to be worried that it was.

887
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 6: It didn't give me any more like reassurance or really

888
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 6: go into it. I think it's probably a part of

889
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 6: her life she doesn't really want to talk about anymore,

890
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 6: and understandably.

891
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: So, yeah, what was the story you were telling me

892
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: about living in Okinawa?

893
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 6: Okay? So Okinawa? I was stationed in there from nineteen

894
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 6: ninety eight to two thousand and five, and he ever

895
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 6: want some like really cool ghost stories, just like Google

896
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 6: that they have this haunted hotel that they started buildings,

897
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 6: but people kept dying and apparently it was on you know,

898
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 6: hollowed grounds or where people had been buried, so they

899
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 6: were never able to finish it. But the way they

900
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 6: build in Okinawa is really structurally sound because they have

901
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 6: typhoons so these cement and rebar so it's this very

902
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 6: sturdy building. But it's just the bones of it. So

903
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 6: you can go in and walk all through it.

904
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Everywhere dying like people were dying as they were making

905
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 1: it building it.

906
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, so they had to stop, they had to stop

907
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 6: construction on it. So I had gone through it once

908
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 6: and my girlfriend and I took pictures outside we walked through.

909
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 6: It's almost like this, I mean, it's this big, grand

910
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 6: hotel and there's these giant rooms and you can go

911
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 6: all the way to the top and like look out

912
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 6: and see the whole island. And we realized when we

913
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 6: got done, like after the whole day was over, we

914
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 6: didn't take a single picture. We were like, wait, why

915
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 6: didn't we take any pictures while we were in there?

916
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 6: But you can probably google it and see, you know,

917
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 6: the haunted hotels of Okinawa. But the place where I lived,

918
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 6: it was one of the invasion points. I later found

919
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 6: out after I had moved in, and I never I

920
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 6: don't I could say I hadn't thought much of it.

921
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 6: But whatever part of my apartment I was, and I

922
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 6: always heard people talking in the on the other side.

923
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 6: It was almost like a Shotgund style apartment. So it

924
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 6: started with the kitchen and living room and then you

925
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 6: go all the way back to the bedroom. But wherever

926
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 6: I was in the apartment, there was always like background

927
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 6: noise of people talking. And as I said, everything's very

928
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 6: structurally built, so it's not like I was hearing something

929
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 6: from outside. And then my neighbors that lived upstairs on

930
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 6: the third floor, so every morning when they woke up,

931
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 6: their lives were on and their doors were open, all

932
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 6: their drawers, all their cabinets, everything would be open. So

933
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 6: I am kind of absent minded with doors and being

934
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 6: left open. I think I do that all on my own.

935
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 6: So even if a ghost was trying to haunt me

936
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 6: and leave doors open, and that wouldn't be a good

937
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 6: help for me, because I do that all the time.

938
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: I do too, I always have. It's so funny because

939
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: I constantly found myself like I kept that open, right.

940
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: I think I'm just looking for my experience.

941
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 6: But oh my god, rab I had this stuff listening

942
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 6: to your show in my house because there is a little.

943
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: Girl that I get it. There's a logo that died

944
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: in your house.

945
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, when I the first time I came to

946
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 6: the house before I bought it, that previous owners still

947
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 6: lived here, so all of their stuff was here, and

948
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 6: there was there was a bench out in the back

949
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 6: yard that said, you know, to our our loving daughter sister.

950
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 6: It was like a memorial bench, and it was like

951
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,919
Speaker 6: a girl that had died to say about eleven years old.

952
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 6: And I wasn't really sure what happened, but there was

953
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 6: pictures inside and there was you know, two girls. There

954
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 6: was an older one and then a younger one who

955
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 6: looked like maybe she had three girl palsy or or

956
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 6: some kind of affect. I kind of like had this

957
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 6: supicion that you know, something happened here because of what

958
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 6: you know, the family that had owned this house since

959
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 6: it was built in nineteen seventy nine was selling it

960
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 6: and I bought the house in twenty eleven, but they

961
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 6: were you know, divorcing and leaving this home. So it

962
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 6: all just seems kind of strange to me. And then

963
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 6: where I currently work. One of the girls and her

964
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 6: best friends were best friends with the older sister that

965
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 6: lived in this house, and they had been here before,

966
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 6: and they confirmed for me that the office that I'm

967
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 6: currently in, which is also has been the cat room

968
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 6: in the past, was where she passed away. And I

969
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 6: think I haven't seen her. I think I maybe get

970
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 6: like glimpses out of the corner of my eye, and

971
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 6: I think my cat can feel her present. But I think, obviously,

972
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 6: I think she's a good soul. She's young, and I

973
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 6: think she's happy with the animals that I keep in

974
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 6: the house. And then for a brief time when my

975
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 6: little brother lives here, I think he felt her and

976
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 6: maybe saw her. But it's hard, hard to say, Wow.

977
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: That's so interesting. How sometimes it's just like such a

978
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: such a slight presence, you know, doesn't sound it doesn't

979
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: seem like it's like super haunted or anything. But yeah,

980
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 1: how interesting. I've been ghosted too. Hello Dusty, Hello, Ras,

981
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: where are you? Dusty?

982
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 5: I am, Oh, you meet in my closet, ironically, but

983
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 5: I am calling you from Fateville, Arkansas.

984
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Cool, You're like what maybe the first Arkansas?

985
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: I mean I've talked to very few people from Haunted Arkansas.

986
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: Well, it has its history.

987
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: So what's going on with you? You grew up in

988
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: a haunted house?

989
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 5: I did, And yes, I grew up in Fort Smith, Arkansas,

990
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 5: which was originally Hell on the Border. But that's it

991
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 5: was originally what it was called Hell on the Border.

992
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,919
Speaker 5: It was the gateway to the West. But I didn't

993
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 5: grow up in a house that old. This strange thing

994
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 5: was is right out the gate. I'll just tell you mine.

995
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 5: And then I, as an adult, I found out a

996
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 5: little bit of what was going on. So when I

997
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 5: was about ten years old, my parents for the first

998
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 5: time left me home alone by myself. And they weren't

999
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 5: very social people, but for some reason, at like eleven

1000
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 5: o'clock at night, they went to some friends for pie,

1001
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 5: which was very uncharacteristic of them. So I was lying

1002
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 5: down on the sofa in the living room and you know,

1003
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 5: growing up poor, we had this you know, old TV

1004
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 5: on top of the old big TV and it was

1005
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 5: one of those you know you had to get up

1006
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 5: and physically turned the knob.

1007
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: You know.

1008
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 5: The joke is I was the remote control for my parents.

1009
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 5: So I was watching, you know, late night reruns of Cheers,

1010
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 5: and I fell asleep on this sofa and I woke

1011
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 5: up and the lights were sall still on because I

1012
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 5: dozed off, but the TV had been turned off, so

1013
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 5: I thought my parents came home and I just didn't

1014
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 5: hear them or something. So I just got up and

1015
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 5: I turned the TV back on because I still wasn't

1016
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 5: quite sleepy yet. Well, I did doze off again, and

1017
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 5: I woke up and the TV had been turned off again,

1018
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 5: so I looked out the window and saw their car

1019
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 5: wasn't there, and I kind of you know, peeked upstairs

1020
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 5: to see if they were, you know, or downstairs in

1021
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 5: the basement. Nobody was home, so I still didn't think

1022
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: much of it. And then the third time I dozed

1023
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 5: off and the television had been physically clicked turned off.

1024
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 5: And that's when I you know, being a gig kit,

1025
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 5: I didn't have a baseball bet, but I had a

1026
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 5: little toy wooden sword, and then I searched the entire

1027
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 5: house and I just stayed home with that like a

1028
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: battle axe over my shoulder until they got home, because

1029
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 5: I didn't know if someone had broken in or what.

1030
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 5: But there was no explanation for how someone else could

1031
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 5: have turned that television off.

1032
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: I found out.

1033
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 5: Later in life of why, you know, I had other

1034
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 5: things like when I was an adult, I saw paranormal

1035
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 5: activity and I had PTSD from watching that. Because suddenly

1036
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,960
Speaker 5: everything in my childhood came to realization.

1037
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: I grew up.

1038
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 5: Because I just hit it away, because my mom believed

1039
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 5: ghosts are all demons, and my dad believed that we

1040
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 5: can't explain, you know, what's going on. Maybe it's a

1041
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 5: time lapse in the dimensions or whatever, and I don't

1042
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 5: have my own I love listening to your show because

1043
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 5: it expands my brain on all the possible theories that

1044
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 5: different things could be. So I found out that well,

1045
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 5: as I started to say, I would have someone sit

1046
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 5: on my bed in the middle of the night and

1047
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 5: I would just keep the blanket over my head and

1048
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 5: not look. And that happened multiple times, or I mean

1049
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 5: a couple of times where it was like that, you know,

1050
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 5: you could feel them step over your body onto the

1051
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 5: other side of the bed.

1052
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh way, So as if they're like standing on

1053
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: your bed or what do you mean, like, what would

1054
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: you think.

1055
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: It could have been standing?

1056
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 5: It could have been like you know, like if your

1057
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 5: parent sits down the side of the bed and leans

1058
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 5: one arm over on the other side of your feet.

1059
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: It could have been something like that.

1060
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 5: I also had another incident where I was asleep in

1061
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 5: the living room and I had sleep paralysis. But it

1062
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 5: wasn't like a moment. It was a long time, like

1063
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 5: on the Haunting of Hill House. Like I was lying

1064
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 5: there staring at the ceiling and felt like I was

1065
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 5: being choked so badly that I had When I could

1066
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 5: finally move, I went and woke up my mom and

1067
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 5: told her I was I mean. She could hear I

1068
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 5: wasn't breathing, and she had asthma, so she let me

1069
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 5: use her in haler. But ros I don't have asthma,

1070
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 5: so that freaked me out real bad.

1071
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Now, when you say you felt like you're being choked,

1072
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: could you feel like did it feel like a human

1073
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: person's hands basically or yeah?

1074
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: Like restricted? Yeah, like hands constricting my throat.

1075
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: Oh that's so scary.

1076
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 5: And I just yeah, And I felt that weird presence.

1077
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 5: So I found out from my mom years later that

1078
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 5: one one of my great grandmothers had passed away in

1079
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 5: the home when I was a child, So some of

1080
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 5: the spookiness I kind of gave myself a theory of

1081
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 5: maybe Grandma was turning the TV off so I could sleep.

1082
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 5: But but as far as like the choking, there was

1083
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 5: also a woman that lived in the house before that

1084
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 5: cut down like every tree in the yard if a

1085
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 5: kid climbed it, and that was kind of spooky. Like

1086
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 5: one time, I uh, when I started, I started closing

1087
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 5: the bedroom door to lock out bad juju when I

1088
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 5: would sleep there, because I did have a nightmare that

1089
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 5: I was chopping people up with an and I've never.

1090
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: Had something like that.

1091
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1092
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: But another one that you'll appreciate this story.

1093
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 5: My mother had an experience too, and in the same

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Speaker 5: house before I was born, and it was shortly after

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Speaker 5: her mother had passed away and she had trouble sleeping.

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Speaker 2: I asked her a lot of questions recently to.

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Speaker 5: Get more details so I could tell you her story

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Speaker 5: because she doesn't like talking about it, because I told you.

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Speaker 2: She has a different theory on these things. But we have.

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Speaker 5: It was very small home, so we had the stair.

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Speaker 5: The wall that divided the stairs from the front door

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Speaker 5: for privacy was just wrapped in those glass tile mirrors,

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Speaker 5: so we called it the wall mirrors, and so she

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Speaker 5: was walking. She got up to get a drink of water,

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Speaker 5: and she said she already felt something weird was going on.

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Speaker 5: And then as she started to walk up the stairs

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Speaker 5: where there's that thickness of the wall that's just that

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Speaker 5: four to six inches of mirror from Florida ceiling, she

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Speaker 5: froze and could not move, and she saw in the

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Speaker 5: reflection behind her her mother. And I asked her to

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Speaker 5: describe it to me, and she said it was the

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Speaker 5: clothes that her mother was buried in and that translucent style,

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Speaker 5: because I know you're going to ask, and.

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Speaker 2: She said she.

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Speaker 5: Looked at that reflection and she said to this spirit,

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Speaker 5: you're not my mother, and then it disappeared and then

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Speaker 5: she was able to move.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and that's you know, so she believes that,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was a demon or raping impersonating. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you believe that it was possibly your great grandmother

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Speaker 1: was in the house and then some kind of of

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Speaker 1: demon or whatever dark dark force.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there could have been something that tried to take

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Speaker 5: opportunity that didn't care for me as much. And maybe,

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Speaker 5: you know, like I said, maybe it was a comforting

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Speaker 5: thing of like the television. You know, maybe maybe in

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Speaker 5: the bedroom of what was sitting on the bed was

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Speaker 5: just you know, watching a grandchild sleep.

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Speaker 1: But I think about the choking.

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Speaker 5: The choking one is the one that I can't figure out.

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Speaker 5: That that one, that one freaked me.

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Speaker 2: Out a lot.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but it all freaked me out for years until

1134
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 5: I found out about, you know, the passing with Gramma

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01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 5: in the house, and I thought maybe that was her

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01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 5: lingering and kind of it made me feel a little better.

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Speaker 5: But I'd always been like, I refuse to talk about

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Speaker 5: what happened in the house.

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Speaker 2: In the house, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I get that. I I feel like it

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01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,360
Speaker 1: could hear me, who's listening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want it to know, so we never

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01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 5: talk about it in the house anyway. Yeah, I have

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01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 5: other little ones. I could go on of other short

1145
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 5: stories or if that's good for you, or.

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01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: No, give me a short one, give me, yeah, give

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01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: it to me. I got a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I will tell you because I listened if

1149
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 5: you and the thing I think the creepiest for you

1150
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 5: would be my sister would kill me if I tell

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01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 5: you this.

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01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: But I'm going to my niece who's now an adult

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01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 2: with her own child. When she was a little girl,

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01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: she was sensitive and could see things. She had the

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01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: six sense.

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Speaker 5: And it freaked my sister out and she didn't like

1157
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 5: encourage it because it scared her and she didn't want

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01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 5: her daughter to be scared. So the two incidents I

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01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 5: remember my sister telling me my daughter saw someone was

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01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 5: one at a friend's townhouse. You know, they have those

1161
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 5: long stairs going up to the second floor. My niece

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01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 5: was looking upstairs and the uh, the owner she had

1163
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 5: It was just her and her teenage daughter that lived there,

1164
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 5: and my sister was talking to her friend and my

1165
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 5: niece said, why is your daughter, you know, soaking wet

1166
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 5: up there? And my sister's like, what are you talking about?

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01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 5: She's not even here, And she said, oh play, you know,

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 5: she's not even here. What are you talking about? And

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 5: then her friend said, oh shit, did I think she

1170
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 5: saw our friend? And my sister said what she said, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we've had some weird stuff happen in the bathroom. And

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Speaker 5: the way my niece described it was it was a

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01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 5: girl that was in clothes just soaking wet and long

1174
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 5: wet hair like Samara from the Ring basically, you know,

1175
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 5: just standing there and she saw her upstairs and was

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01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 5: told to ignore it and go along. And the other

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01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 5: time was their family was traveling and stayed at a

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01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 5: motel like one of those sweets where it has, you know,

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01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 5: the pull out sofas and all that stuff. And my

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01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 5: niece told her parents the next morning she asked, who

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01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 5: was that man that came.

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 2: In last night? And he said, honey, nobody came in

1183
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 2: the room last night. It's just us. We're just trying.

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01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 5: She described a man in a suit and very old, like,

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01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 5: you know, my sister asked the questions of you know,

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01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 5: like an old hat, like a nineteen thirties madmen kind

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01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 5: of thing. And he walked into the hotel room and

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Speaker 5: looked over them while they were sleeping, and then just

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Speaker 5: kind of dissipated out through the wall.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, does she still have these experiences or

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Speaker 1: was it just as a kid?

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Speaker 5: I haven't asked her recently, because, like I said, her

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Speaker 5: mother would kill me. But it was as a kid,

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01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 5: because her mother didn't want, you know, to scare her

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01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 5: of like, well, honey, you just saw a ghost a

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Speaker 5: dead person, you know, because she was she was a

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01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 5: very sense that She's one of those ball of light

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Speaker 5: people that you know, hugs everyone in the room and

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Speaker 5: just has that ball of bride energy. So if she

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 5: experienced that, who knows, I mean, who knows how she

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01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 5: would react. I kind would that she would have gone

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01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 5: into it, you know, in a safe way.

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Speaker 1: But but those people, like the first friends that they

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: were having like paranormal activity happening in their bathroom. You're saying, yeah, like.

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01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 5: Sometimes stuff would be knocked off or I can't remember.

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01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 5: I should have contacted them to ask about you know,

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01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 5: something may have happened with the bathtub of you know,

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 5: I can't recall, but I do know that she said specifically.

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01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 5: And my sister said, do you dare tell my daughter

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 5: that you have a ghost in your bathroom that she

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01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 5: just saw at the top of the stairs soaking wet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Erry, well do Stee. Thank you so much for calling.

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Speaker 2: I think, thank you. This is so fun.

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Speaker 5: I love this show and I love hearing all the theories.

1216
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 5: And one thing I absolutely have to tell you is

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01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 5: my favorite thing about you, Ross is I can always

1218
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 5: hear the smile in your voice no matter what you're talking.

1219
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 5: You're so genuine and I wish I could see what

1220
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 5: drag you're wearing right now.

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01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: Oh it's cool, gees, let me tell you.

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01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 5: Your voice no matter what you're talking, you're so genuine

1223
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 5: and I wish I could see what drag you're wearing

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01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 5: right now.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to everyone that was on today's episode. Again,

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01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 1: if you want to hear that bonus story from Joey

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01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: talking about the haunted dorms that he stayed in that

1228
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 1: used to be an institution, and it's one of these

1229
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: places that seems to have like not just a couple

1230
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: of ghosts, like a lot of different kinds of ghosts.

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01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: And so Joey tells that story on Patreon on the

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01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: second tier of Patreon called on with the show. And

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Speaker 1: if you're on the first tier of Patreon and the

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Speaker 1: second tier, because if you're on the second tier you

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Speaker 1: get the first tier, you can watch that video of

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Speaker 1: me talking about spooky places in West Hollywood, California. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have you be on a listener episode,

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Speaker 1: give the show five stars on Apple Podcasts. And if

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Speaker 1: to say something nice to me. Please leave it in

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: a five star review on Apple Podcasts. I'm on Instagram

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Speaker 1: all the things you know where to find me. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back next week with Bailey Sarian. I love you all,

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01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you

1250
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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