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What's going on? This 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.720 is the Fantasy Best Friends Forever. I am Frank Standford. 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.520 While Gregg Sousman is off doing executive things. I feel 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.240 like he's running back into the building right now. Yesterday 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.720 we spoke about the early round wide receivers. Today we're 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.600 gonna get into the middle round wide receivers, that's rounds 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.000 three through five. Maybe we'll get a little bit deeper 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.000 than that. We really spoke about the top ten guys 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:24.200 that cut off there with Mike Evans. Maybe we talk 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.480 a little bit more about t Y Hilton today on 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.320 the fact that Andrew Luck has not thrown the ball 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.080 twenty plus yards down the field and either one of 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:35.680 the first preseason games. He has been doing it in practice, 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:37.520 but we haven't seen it in game action yet, So 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.040 is that worries something. We'll get into that as well. Um, 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:42.880 We're gonna start with the stat of the day while 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.520 I'm here waiting occaciently from my guy Greg Susman. Uh, 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.640 it's really Stats of the day and it has to 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.960 do with Chris Hogan from weeks one through eight last season, 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.920 Chris Hogan wide receiver eight overall and half PPR. He 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:00.400 had sixty yards or a touchdown in six of those 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:06.520 eight games, Greg Suspen, So, yeah, man, what's going on 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.560 the day? You have to bring the show in the 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.480 album jumping and jumping right in. So man, now much 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.000 are you doing? I'm doing well. I'm doing well. You 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:19.120 can care of business dat here of business on the 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.400 program to day, Frank you mentioned it's that of the 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:26.800 day wide receivers and sorry the day we'll get back 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.600 to it. We'll definitely back. But yesterday we did the 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.560 first and second wide first and second round wide receivers 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.120 today we in the middle. We the middle rounds the 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.240 next guys. We figured we do the top ten. We 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.320 wanted to go from like eleven to twenty four ish, 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.160 and that's the plan and we're going to kind of 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.000 see how it goes from there. Yeah, and I mentioned 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.160 maybe we talked a little bit about more more about 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:48.560 t Y Hilton, whether we should be worried we moved 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.120 them down a little bit. It's a great question, man. Yeah, 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:52.639 I got the I got the pull up on the 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.200 Fantasy best Friends Forever talking about Doug Baldwin now that 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.040 it really does seem like he's going to be ready 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:00.240 for Week one by all indications he's running. Um, they 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.200 seem much more optimistic about this now. To me, I 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.400 was very excited about Doug Baldwin. I had him writing 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.640 that range with Mike Evans, with t Y Hilton, and 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.600 I've bumped him right all the way back up there. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.120 So are you comfortable drafting him on that too, return 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.320 more comfortable in the later third round? Or maybe you're 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.720 just avoiding Doug Balton. So we could check back in 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:20.120 on that poll later on Greggy. Um, but I'm just 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.320 gonna continue with the statu day on Chris Hogan, our 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.639 guy who looked very good in the second preseason game, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.160 and I've just seen him go as high as the 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.200 fourth round already in some Best Ball Leagues. Weeks one 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.760 through eight last season, Chris Hogan was wide receiver eight 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.960 overall in half PPR. It's sixty yards very touchdown in 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.040 six of those eight games, so it was incredibly consistent. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.920 His first half numbers pro raded over sixteen games, sixty 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.960 six receptions, eight hundred sixty seventy six yards, ten touchdowns. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.040 That's a hundred and eighty point six half PPR points. 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:54.040 Would have made him the wide receiver fifteen overall last 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:57.680 season if he played sixty games. There's a lot of like, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.760 there's lots of love out Chris Hogan, now number one, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.920 Can you play all sixteen games? I think there's a 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.760 strong possibility can now. People have said in regards to 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:11.200 Hogan that the touchdowns aren't necessarily sustainable, that the Patriots 0:04:11.240 --> 0:04:14.720 changed their offense per game, but I just felt like, 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.760 and this is just total eye test, Frankie, that every 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.880 time he was out there, he was a monstrous vocal 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.320 points inside the red zone, and he was everything fantasy 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:24.960 owners wanted to beat him to be when Julian Edeman 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.320 went down last year. He's not just like PPR guy. 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.560 He's an everything guy and whether grons out there where 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.640 he's not. I think Chris Hogan's awesome and I have 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.839 him ranked currently as my twenty three ranked receiver, and 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.320 I feel like he probably should be higher. I just 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:42.039 don't know how much higher. Did you take my rankings 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:43.560 and just kind of like move them around and make 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:47.080 your own rankings. I did not have him exactly wide receiver. Yeah, 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:48.680 I feel like we do this every day too. We 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.960 had to disagree on somebody eventually. I'm sure you will. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.520 There's a lot of wide receivers that we have to go. 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:54.000 But I feel the same way, like I want to 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.360 move him up, but it's like where where do you 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.600 move him up to? Right in front of ahead of him? 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.960 I have Golden's Hate who year in year out, incredibly consistent, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.080 Juju Smith Schuster, who I think has big upside playing 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.640 alongside Antonio Brown in that offense Tobody did just one 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.240 year ago, and Martavis Bryant's now gone from that team. 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.200 Josh Gordon Wide Receivers twenty maybe he shouldn't be in 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.680 that range, but I think he's gonna be ready for 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.520 week one by all indications, right, like we saw it 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.719 in Hard Knocks last night, him returning to you should 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:25.839 have watched you didn't watch? Can you watch every show 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.080 the night of No, you don't watch Better Calsa. I 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.000 watched Better cassall last night, and I'm not gonna it 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.000 for you, sorry, but I mean you knew Josh couldn't 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.960 return to camp anyway. All right, Well, I didn't know 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:40.320 what they talked about. I didn't talk about it much. Actually, 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.320 last night I watched last week's Hard Knocks because I 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.640 had not watched last week's I was wondering. I know, 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:49.320 I feel obviously as I always did. Um well, that 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:52.400 was why people are saying blessing to me this morning. Yeah, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.560 Jervis Landry forgot about that too. You have a pretty 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.320 sick rotal wear shirt two with the hands it says, 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.560 bless him. That was two weeks ago. I did watch 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.480 the Cory One. Stuff was interesting. I didn't like how 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:03.920 they cut it. That bothered me. Now Corey Coleman was 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.840 saying how it bothered him also, and they did full 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.640 like show the full picture. Um so I didn't like 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.640 that and I also didn't like how they cut the 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:16.280 Antonio Antonio Callaway stuff because and this is us being 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.120 in teaving production. Right. So you what you watched last 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:20.599 week's episode, I want to spoil that for you. I 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:24.200 watched all of them so far. Okay, So Frankie were 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.080 a master of the white board. Frank's Whiteboards series is unbelievable. 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:31.080 Check it out on YouTube. Is a whiteboard series. It's amazing. Okay, Um, 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:32.760 reminds me something else I have to tell you during 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:39.640 the break, so we know the editing process. You do 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.440 you specifically, So they showed you Atonio Callaways sitting at 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.840 this table with John Dorsey and with Hugh Jackson, right 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:47.719 and they're going over there having a discussion. It looks 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.680 like it's like a five minute discussion. Right. But on 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.720 the board, um to the left, on the wall next 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.320 to John Dorsey, across from Hugh Jackson, was like four 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:01.440 pillars of the four Brown's pillars. I guess like trust, responsibility, 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:06.320 something and something. Okay, And early on when Callaway walks in, 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:09.400 those four things are written on the board. The cut, 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.080 the doorsy that cut, the Jackson that cut back, and 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.120 then go back to the white shot almost immediately after that, 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.680 we're talking literally in real time, like a minute right now. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.040 Two of those things are circled, there's arrows coming out 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.480 of them with um with other words written on this board, 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:29.520 and it was clear that this was a much longer conversation. Obviously, 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:31.760 there was a much longer back and forth, which I'm 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.239 sure the Brown did not want aired by any means, 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.480 and they didn't narr it. I thought that was super interesting. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:42.120 That is interesting, and I finally just interesting that you've 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.680 noticed that, because you know, once I leave from here 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.640 for the day, I kind of just like shut down, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.800 like the really production mind. Like I try not to 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.040 notice things like that. It happens more so when I 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.240 watched like movies and stuff. It's funny because because I 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:58.600 my my brain is always on with that kind of stuff. Um, 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.720 And like Judy watches a Bachelor of Paradise right like 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:04.480 I was. I was saying about that, and they're the 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.680 worst because they obviously manipulated everything. And that's fine, I 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.760 get that, but it kills me when they show a 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.960 clip or the the show rather and they go to 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.120 a confessional one of the contestants talking and the contestants 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.880 wearing like a red bathing suit. They go back to 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:24.200 the action, back to the confessional. Now she's wearing a dress. Fine, 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.000 you know what it was different parts of the day. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.200 Back to her now she's wearing a green bathing suit, 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.400 and like this is literally these interviews are literally happened 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:32.760 over weeks. You don't know what the producers asked her 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.839 in order to get those answers, and like this is 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:39.760 all jumble together, Like what she's talking about now literally 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.440 had nothing to do with what the scene you just saw. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.439 And I pointed out the judy and she's just like, 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.560 do you understand how annoying you are? Do you understand 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.520 that it's just ruined reality television? Friend? Exactly? And it 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.000 bothered me, and um, she had a friend over to 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.400 watch it on one day, and I kept my mouth 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.439 shut because I don't want embarrass her by in a 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:02.079 little bit, Greg allow yourself to be amazed. It's not real. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.000 It's just not real, obviously. So that was that was 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:08.360 I don't know how I got the Jenio callaway, think 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:13.040 all right, I'm done, alright, anything else now? That's my 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.520 Hard Knocks thoughts? How do we get here again? You 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.960 were watching Hard Knocks Josh Gordon, Josh Gordon. Josh Gordy 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.480 moved up to wide receivers twenty so he's might were 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.319 a little bitary. Remember wide receivers twenty one. Who do 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.600 you where do you have? Speaking of hard knocks, where 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:28.920 do you have Jarvis Landry? And half people are having 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.960 eight team? So I have met twenty I have him 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.360 and Josh Gordon back to back. Do you think that 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:36.120 Jarvis Landry is getting the hard knocks boost? Because it 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.280 does happen every year people. Um, you see the players 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.840 you rives last year? Yah, Mike Evans, you rise them 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.040 up draft boards because like you see how hard they're working. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:47.360 You like, you like them personally and you want them 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.400 to succeed and you think they will. And the problem 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.480 is at every one of these NFL facilities, these guys 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.360 are working hard. There's giving other funny speeches like bless 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.200 up right, like this is happening. I don't know it was, 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:02.000 bless him whatever, bless up see you, I sneezed, Um, 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:08.040 Jarvis Landry is I'm blessing you, Thank you. Jarvis Landry 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.880 is one of many and as good as he's looked, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:12.760 and I think they will utilize him in a major way, 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.520 like everybody loves Juice. I do you think he's getting 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.160 the hard knocks brust. I think that it's fair to say. 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.640 But the reason why I we'll say I've boosted him 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.120 throughout the process of hard knocks is that what we've 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.160 seen is that they're using him all over the field. 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.200 He's not just being locked into a slot role receiver 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:34.000 um role, honestly, and and just the way that they've 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.319 used him to this point downfield, throws on the outside, 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:39.720 on the inside, moving him all around the formation, it 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:42.079 reminds me a lot of what the Steelers did with 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.920 Antonio Brown. Now I have adjusted things accordingly once Josh 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.520 Gordon returned, but I thought that, you know, if Johsh 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.840 Gordon wasn't there, Jarvis Landry really could have been the 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.240 Antonio Brown of the Brown's offense this year, because we 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.280 know what Todd Haley did with Antonio Brown. And obviously 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.680 Antonio Brown is a freak athlete. But I think we're seeing, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:02.040 even through the hard knocks process, like we're being reminded 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.520 of the kind of athlete that Jarvis Landry is. Like 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.240 he's not just a slot right wide receiver like one 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.080 of these guys that you just pencil in, like he 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.400 can make contested catches, he is one of the best 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.959 route runners, he has amazing hands, and we saw him 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:15.520 do work in the red zone last year. So for 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.360 all of those reasons, I moved him ahead of Josh Gordon. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.520 I think he could be a little bit more consistent. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.120 What I had thought was if Josh Gordon was part 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:26.200 of the whole training camp process, I thought that Tyrod 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.559 Taylor or to Rod Taylor would have fallen more so 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.040 in love with Josh Gordon as d down the field threat. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.440 But now that he is three weeks behind, I think 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.400 Jervis Landry probably gets off to the better start and 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.640 maybe he's more consistent this year. But I will not 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.240 argue I moved Josh Gordon up to twenty because I 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:44.520 still think he does have that incredible offside. It's amazing 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.120 because every time you count Josh Gordon out, he comes 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.240 back and I'm his lowest on him of anybody last year, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.600 right like I hated Josh Gordon because I thought this 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.720 is all mirage and it didn't happen. He comes back 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.079 and he was outstanding or for eight five. I think 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:58.560 it was against Casey Hayward he was outstanding and he's 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.360 Hayward said, oh they don't have a union. Is the 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.360 toughest wide wide receiver we have faced all year long. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.040 He is that good, and I think every time he 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.679 has one of these things going on, a suspension, him 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.920 walking away, whatever it may be, he will almost forget 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.080 just how good Josh Gordon is in my auction. And 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.480 I know I keep going back to that because I 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.400 think it's important. Josh Gordon went for seventeen dollars. Now 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.360 I had him as a twenty dollar player UM as 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.000 my twenty first rank wide receiver. For comparison, saying sake, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.760 Jarvis Landry went for twenty three. I thought there'd be 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.840 more of a happy medium there, UM, and I thought 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.120 Gordon at seventeen was an awesome buy because, as we 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.199 said a couple of weeks ago, as we were looking 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.280 for that next top wide receiver they can jump in 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:42.760 the first round. Josh Gordon has that ability, and I 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.200 think he's gonna be the name if your draft. And 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.120 there's a bunch of names above him, A Maori Cooper, 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:51.439 Allen Robinson, Um, Golden Tate, and Marvin Jones really come 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.000 to mind, because those are four four righte receivers that 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.679 I think you're going to be there for you at 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.240 like say the end of the third round, early in 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:59.400 the fourth, when you're looking at if you're drafting at 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:03.520 the turn um as your wide receiver too. Essentially to me, 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:05.720 if I'm gonna have, I have Josh Gordon below all 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.080 of these guys, right, I have Cooper at sixteen, Robinson 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:12.160 at seventeen, tated eighteen, and Jones at nineteen. Josh Gordon's 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.080 one of those guys, the number one out of all 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:15.960 those guys that have the ability to finish in the 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.200 top twelve. Like I don't know that maybe Cooper, I 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.040 know that any of them have that ability to finish 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.600 a true top twelve, if not top ten, if not 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:27.360 top eight wide receiver. Josh Gordon does. And I very 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:29.440 well know when I'm at that turn I am gonna 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.000 going to be damn tempted in the third, fourth round 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.320 to take Josh Gordon over all of them, Which is 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.680 crazy to say, because Marvin Jones just finishes the wide 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:40.000 receiver nine overall last year. The thing is we we 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.000 can't project him to do that again, and based on 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.560 where he's being drafted, as you know, a low end 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:48.160 wide receiver too high end wide receiver three like Marvin 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.160 Jones is going in like that that cut off of 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:52.160 the top twenty four wide receivers. So even if he 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.839 sees regression this year, like maybe he won't be over 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:56.679 a thousand, and maybe he won't, you know, flirt with 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:01.040 double digit touchdowns, but if he's nine seven, he's still 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.040 gonna be a top twenty four wide receiver. So that's 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.240 being baked into his price. Uh So, you know, it's 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:07.800 it is crazy to say that Josh Gordon is the 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:09.400 only one who had that has that upside when we've 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.960 seen Marvin Jones do it. Um. But as you know, 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:13.640 I think that the lines are more of a balance 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.440 attack this year, but Josh Gorton absolutely does have that 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.280 upside to do it. The way that I feel about 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.680 Josh Gordon right now is I don't want him as 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.120 my wide receiver too. To be honest, I have to 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.640 have two wide receivers on my team before I take 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.320 Josh Gordon. I think it's easier to take that risk, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.840 take that chance with him as your wide receiver when 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.840 you have that stability of two wide receivers already on 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.440 your team. Because if anything happens throughout the year. Obviously, 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.400 any player can get injured, but especially with him, he 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.200 has that you know, maybe he uh needs to just 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.720 go on a mental break again and needs to you know, 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:47.560 cleanse himself like whatever it might be. You have that 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:51.640 risk much more with Josh Gordon than obviously any other players. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:53.160 So I need to have him as my wide receiver 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.440 three on my team more so than my wide receiver 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.600 to I just can't trust that. So then let me 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.360 ask this. You're and he is going as I said, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.520 and the third early fourth, now that I got him 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.280 in the fifth round of the Best Ball Draft, when 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.440 that was the day before that he returned, I think 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:10.760 he's gonna move up though he's going. Absolutely, he's gonna 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.920 move back into the fourth round. I don't see him 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.520 getting all the way back to the three fourth turn. 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.760 I think he's closer to the four or five turn. Okay, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.880 I don't know. I think you've seen back at practice. 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:20.840 I think he continues to rise. Who were other some 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.440 other players that went in your auction around his dollar price, 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.640 like seventeen bucks. The interesting thing is nobody really went 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:29.840 around that wide receiver wise, the one around that price 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.640 he went at seventeen even low twenty. Marvin, Yeah, that's 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.560 exactly as you get to Marvin Jones is nineteen. That 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.960 was obviously very close like he's he's on that four 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.160 or five swing too. Jarvis Landry went for twenty three, 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.880 Golden Tate twenty three, Allen Robinson twenty four. Those are 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:49.000 all to me consistent fourth round wide receivers, okay, and 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.480 then Marvin Jones, Josh Gordon, I think that's where you 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.960 come in, and that's more so like the fourth fifth 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:55.960 round swing. Same thing with Chris Hogan. I put him 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.840 in that category as well. Chris Hogan went for significantly more. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:02.040 Chris Hogan went for twenty six. That's the preseason hyper there. Yea, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.840 Chris Hogan went for significantly more. He Basically, as I 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.840 look at these prices, it's clear that there's another tier 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.880 of guys that I guess are the third round guys. 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:12.120 I've I've really drew them together because I don't see 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.720 much of a difference between these third and fourth round guys. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.920 Like in my draft. I'll pick this tier like I 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.960 draft as everybody knows. Eleventh, right, So that's why I 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.480 keep talking about this turn because that's where I am 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.640 I draft eleventh, and in that third fourth round, if 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:26.760 I grab a wide receiver and I grab a running back, 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:30.160 none of which whom I like. Of course I might 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.240 not draft the Mark Hoover. I may choose Josh Gordon 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:33.920 over him if he's back at practice by the time 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.800 I draft. You know, I think this whole group he's 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.560 together because I'm not gonna have a chance any of 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.640 them later on. Obviously, that's what we always say. It 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.400 doesn't matter a DP because every guy I just mentioned 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.160 it won't be there in the fifth round at my pick. 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.720 That it's just not gonna happen. So that's why I 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:52.520 have grouped like this. But after the break, we mentioned 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:56.320 Gordon and Landry and Jones and Tate and Robinson, and 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.520 we'll get more into those guys that are going in 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.680 this spot. But there's a whole nother tier, clearly, which 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.080 is the third round up what third round wide receivers? 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.280 You had mentioned t Y Hilton, But I think we 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.920 have to break down Diggs versus theling. I think we 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.439 have to break down where Larry Fitzgerald goes in this, 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.320 where Tyree Hill goes in this, and then where Doug 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.840 Baldwin who you mentioned Mary Cooper go to. This is 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.680 a tier based on the prices that I have. Where 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:20.640 do they go? Who do you want more? 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