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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly, he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson And it is a snowy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 4: That was a little shockgun opened the window this morning.

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Speaker 2: WHOA getting to feel a lot like Christmas?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like Raven's week, like playoffs and there you go.

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Speaker 2: And I honestly, I think it's kind of supposed to

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Speaker 2: be like this in Baltimore on Saturday, little wet field,

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, And I think that played into

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Speaker 2: the decision to sit George Pickens this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I understand the big picture thinking. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he'll obviously be missed and it's a tough one to overcome,

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Speaker 4: but you gotta think, what if he's in a tarrit or?

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Speaker 4: You know, what if it's something bad is gonna happen?

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Speaker 4: Because you are in the playoffs, you.

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Speaker 2: Slip and slide and yeah, yeah, same thing you know

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Speaker 2: with deshaw On Elliott with the hamstring as well, they're

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Speaker 2: both hams. That's starting to stop, you know with the

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Speaker 2: hamstring stuff is you know, if you're you're sliding all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden the football. Yeah yeah, you get that

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Speaker 2: quick jerk on the hamstring. That's when bad things out to.

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Speaker 4: The tearor and whatnot. Yeah, unfortunate, but I understand the logic,

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Speaker 4: pind it.

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Speaker 2: I do expect him to play though, against the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Okay, even a short Both of these guys are pickens,

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Speaker 4: I think both really yeah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that'll be good working this game this weekend, Matt. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: on Saturday is Bill Vinovic's crew. They called twelve point

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Speaker 2: sixty nine penalties per game, which is just below league average. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he's been around a long time, he's yeah. Yeah. Their

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Speaker 2: most called penalty is a false start at thirty nine.

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Speaker 4: Which everyone in the world has to call.

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Speaker 2: You know, well there, I mean there's a different degree

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Speaker 2: fall starts that you have to call and then others.

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Speaker 2: As you know, thirty nine is a lot.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like a ton thirty that's I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 4: just around more than half a game, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Two and a half per game. So maybe they're looking

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Speaker 2: for stuff. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I I wonder if they played and if

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Speaker 4: they happened to ref a couple of games where the

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Speaker 4: Chiefs played, or you know some of these guys that

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Speaker 4: move early, you know, tell you that, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: who they went up against, or maybe they're keeping more

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Speaker 4: of an eye on it if they're a little quick

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Speaker 4: the trigger the flag on those compared to other crews,

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Speaker 4: I would think that favors of Steelers yea. I mean

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Speaker 4: their guys get off is the best in the league,

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Speaker 4: especially on the edge and you got to get moving early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. They they have called one Baltimore game thus far

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Speaker 2: this year. They called in that game only nine penalties,

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Speaker 2: which for a Ravens game is actually that's low for

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Speaker 2: that for them. Yeah. Yeah, the Ravens had five penalties

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Speaker 2: in that game against the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: In case you're new round your folks, they're the most

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Speaker 4: penalized team in the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, hasn't called a Steeler game yet this season

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Speaker 2: and terms of the big game, like, they haven't had

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Speaker 2: a game this season. Well, they just did the Carolina

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Speaker 2: Dallas game on last week. That was their high penalty

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Speaker 2: game for the season. They had twenty two penalties in

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Speaker 2: that one. They haven't been above fifteen penalties in the

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Speaker 2: game in any other game. I thought, too crazy, And

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Speaker 2: there are a lot of games in single digits, Miami, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Cleveland,

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Speaker 2: LA Chargers, Houston, Detroit, so it hasn't been a massive penalty.

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Speaker 2: I will say this. So Baltimore and Detroit are tied

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Speaker 2: for the most defensive backfield penalties in the league. They

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Speaker 2: both have twenty one.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned off the air that they're second and third

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Speaker 4: most called penalties.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, holding, holding is twenty five. Offensive holding, and then

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Speaker 2: defensive pass interference with twenty one is their third most

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Speaker 2: called penalty. After that then it's defensive holding. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: they will watch the holding and and that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I know, first thing I did when I tweeted

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Speaker 2: that on I'm like, spare me the Joey Porter stuff

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Speaker 2: because Baltimore's worse at it.

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Speaker 4: Oh they are.

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Speaker 2: They are grabby, grabby, grabby.

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Speaker 4: Very very much. So holding, to me, offensive holding is

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Speaker 4: a lot like false starts.

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Speaker 3: Too, you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, sometimes you gotta call it, sometimes you gotta

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Speaker 4: call it. But also I think that favors Pittsburgh. I mean,

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Speaker 4: your defensive line versus their O line is more of

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Speaker 2: Vice versus j versus Roger Rosengarten, Right, it's going to

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Speaker 4: It was actually just chat with Wolf and the lobby

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Speaker 4: before and he was shocked how much they left those

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Speaker 4: two alone the first matchup. You know, they were helping

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Speaker 4: Stanley here and there, and I Smith has a really good,

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Speaker 4: really good track record against Stanley. Yeah, we're we had

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Speaker 4: a good conversation about it. I don't they'll do that again.

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Speaker 4: But I would think holding favors Pittsburgh stee line more

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Speaker 4: than the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers defense, The Steelers defensive line against their offensive

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Speaker 2: line is a major advantage period especially and I again,

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Speaker 2: I don't think much of Daniel falle right, but if

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Speaker 2: he's out, But if he's out now varhe's probably moves

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Speaker 2: in at left guard. And they kicked McCary over to

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Speaker 2: the right side, and Cam Hayward against War he's right out.

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Speaker 4: Cam Hayward against McCary lookout, you know. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: like McCary. He'd be a valuable piece for every team

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Speaker 4: as a six man off the bench NBA style, But

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Speaker 4: he's not a high end left guard. I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: But at least he's played Cam a lot over the years.

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Speaker 4: A better player, Yeah, I mean, but he was not

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Speaker 4: expected to be the starter on day one. That's that's

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Speaker 4: they wanted it to be, and he was right not ready,

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Speaker 4: and so he gets thrown in there. We also had

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Speaker 4: a great interview with Benton earlier this week. Him and

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Speaker 4: Linderbaum have gone against each other way back when you know,

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Speaker 4: I've time's already for better or worse. I mean, that

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Speaker 4: got only who that favors. They're both really good players,

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Speaker 4: but Watt versus rosen Garden, I'm pretty sure who that favors.

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Speaker 4: And even Ogunjobi versus the right guard, whoever that is.

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Speaker 4: I like the Steelers' chances on that too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: would think very little Blitz.

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Speaker 2: The key here, I think is maybe Benton on Linderbaum

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Speaker 4: Mean, none of these receivers are gonna play. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna see a lot of base.

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Speaker 2: Defense, a lot of base defense, a lot of heavy packages,

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Speaker 2: so a lot of you know, Benton over top of

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Speaker 4: He maybe even Adams and Benton over the right guard too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so if you can, if you can

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Speaker 2: make them, if you make it so that Linderbaum can't

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Speaker 2: help either the guards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, or get to the second level in the run game. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's so. His greatest strengths are mobility, quickness. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he's an undersized center, but he's a former wrestler, as

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Speaker 4: is Benton. Yeah, right, right right, and really good leverage player. Quickness,

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Speaker 4: gets his hands on you, quick passes you off the guard,

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Speaker 4: gets to the Queens and Roberts of the world too.

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Speaker 4: You know, it might be hard to do against Bay

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Speaker 4: three four too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the wrestling background for both of

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Speaker 2: those guys kind of cancels each other out a lot

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Speaker 2: of times. When you know those wrestlers, they just have

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Speaker 2: a they have the advantage over a guy who doesn't

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Speaker 2: have that background because they know the leverage stuff.

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Speaker 4: Was Fraser in there too.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you're not going to have a leverage advantage

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Speaker 2: against another guy who is a high end wrestler.

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Speaker 4: Agreed. However, one of the knocks at Benton at this

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Speaker 4: stage of his careers he can still get his pads

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Speaker 4: a little high. I mean, I think that was the

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Speaker 4: reason he was a second rounder, not a first, especially

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Speaker 4: in the run game.

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Speaker 2: But he's also a nose tackle, right say, But he

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Speaker 4: This against a smaller man I'm sure he's going to

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Speaker 4: be more and more aware of that because that's going

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Speaker 4: to be I mean, Linderbaum's looking at him like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: if I can get under his pads, that's my path

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Speaker 4: to victory. And Benton knows that too. I mean, the

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Speaker 4: familiarity part of it I think is important. And then

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Speaker 4: back to what you're saying too about DPIs and holding

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Speaker 4: that greatly favors Feelers. Yeah, maybe Porter gets one or

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Speaker 4: two or three whatever I mean, but.

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Speaker 2: Well it can't be three. But if he gets one

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Speaker 2: on the three problem right, But because I think they're

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Speaker 4: Would think so. I would think so they are very gravvy,

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Speaker 4: especially the second corner. Not Wigans Stevens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for whatever reason, I would attack him. I would

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Speaker 2: identify who he is on on every play and I

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Speaker 4: Maybe you know this and I should at this point

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Speaker 4: of this, of the uh, the week and all that.

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Speaker 4: When they're in their base though, which of the three

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Speaker 4: corners sits? Is it Wiggans or or is it Humphrey.

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Speaker 4: I think Humphrey states on the field no matter what,

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Speaker 4: he just goes the slot because I don't think Steelers

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Speaker 4: bet Wigans sits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's not he's a rook you Knoweah, he's

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Speaker 2: he's not very stout. And Stevens is a He's a

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Speaker 2: bigger body guy. So I want to go after him.

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Speaker 2: I want to go after him every chance that I get.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no matter who your receivers are, I got no

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Speaker 4: problem with that at all. I think he's a target.

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Speaker 4: I think linebacker two is a target. Safety too is

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Speaker 4: a target.

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Speaker 2: So they got some. As Antonio Brown once told me

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Speaker 2: when we were talking about they're getting ready to play

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Speaker 2: the Eagles here I believe, And I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was actually talking about Brandon Boykin, who later joined

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, and he's I said, you know, do you

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Speaker 2: have something that you attack here? He goes, oh yeah, Boycot,

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Speaker 2: he's just he's just the candy bar or he's a

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Speaker 2: sweet matchup. I'm like, is he you know, is he

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Speaker 2: a Snickers? Is he a milky whale? He's a Snickers?

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's great?

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Speaker 2: That made it the papers out in Philly. They weren't happy.

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Speaker 2: Woykem wasn't real happy about it either, But I think you're.

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Speaker 4: Talking about Boyk in the wide receiver. You lost me

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Speaker 4: there for a second. You're talking about the corner Boykin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, back in he was a rookie

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Speaker 2: that year. Yeah, he was Philadelphia's.

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Speaker 4: Slot and maybe he didn't exactly hide it, no, and

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Speaker 4: probably didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: And that was before Ab was like a b He

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Speaker 2: was like one of the best receivers in the league.

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Speaker 2: Yet he was having a good year and that was

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Speaker 2: the year they paid him. My think you know, he

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Speaker 4: Season, so he was coming on strong.

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Speaker 4: Now, the Steelers receiving weapons aren't in optimal condition at

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Speaker 2: But they've done this before.

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Speaker 2: They've played with these guys. The thing with Baltimore that

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Speaker 4: I also don't think that there's any of their cover men.

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Speaker 2: Humphrey is the only one that takes the ball away.

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Speaker 2: He threw it up high, and I think Washington thought

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't.

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Speaker 2: He never adjusted to the football because I think he

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Speaker 4: Coach was understandable. It was kind of had that look

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Speaker 2: would have been if they don't throw that one away,

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing about that game. Everybody says, we

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Speaker 2: all he did was kick field goals. They were in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't get there.

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Speaker 2: They moved the ball consistently against Baltimore's defense, and frankly.

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Speaker 4: I don't care how you get there. If you can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can have seven scoring drives in this game, oh,

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You would think two of them are touchdowns at least. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: Do that, you know, even if one of them is

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Speaker 4: You're probably in it.

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Speaker 2: Seven and fifteen twenty two points, You're in it.

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Speaker 4: You're in it, especially there's a little bit of weather

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Speaker 2: The other thing that you're doing is Lamar standing on

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's a big key here.

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Speaker 4: You need to get back to winning time and possession,

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Speaker 4: which they've been really really good at except for last week.

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Speaker 2: Basically.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I still think if we get together, I guess

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Speaker 4: it'll be Monday is our next show. Yes, and the

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Speaker 4: Steelers have clinched the division. We're gonna say the defense

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Speaker 4: played an A plus game, you know, a great game

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Speaker 4: I think this defense probably a little embarrassed after last week.

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Speaker 4: Their tackling was poor. I thought, you know, they were

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Speaker 4: things up. You know that I always trust this defense,

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not sure which one's up and which

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Speaker 2: So in that previous meeting, Lamar Jackson was sixteen to

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Speaker 2: thirty three. You have four carries for forty six yards,

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Speaker 2: was sacked twice, had an interception, He didn't fumble. Dereck

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Speaker 2: Henry had the fumble. Yeah, but Lamar has fumbled against

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Speaker 2: the Steelers pretty regularly. Yeah. Seven, how many seven fumbles

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Speaker 4: Shocksur how many turnovers in general he has? I mean

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Speaker 4: he by far throws as highest percent your picks against

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Speaker 4: so good at force fumbles and punching that ball out.

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Speaker 4: They've taken it to a new level. And it's an

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Speaker 4: the ball didn't come out like it does against every quarterback. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Here's the other thing about that particular game. He will

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Speaker 2: Run into especially especially when he stops to change direction,

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Speaker 4: He does that top gun fly by or he hits

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Speaker 4: hangs it out there too. Also for balance.

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Speaker 2: Now, pickings in that game had twelve targets, eight for

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Speaker 2: eighty nine, so obviously you're not going to have that right.

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Speaker 2: But the running backs had eight catches. That's the key

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Speaker 4: Like there's a Fantasy league where I'm torn Tweet and

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Speaker 4: Test I have to start Warring or Harris. I thin't

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Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll dump the ball to Harris more than

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Speaker 4: even if it's running the cloud of dust in a punt.

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Speaker 4: You know, we know how these games go. But I

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Speaker 2: They also ran. They had twenty seven carries for one

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Speaker 2: So Harris finished with eighteen carries for sixty three yards,

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Speaker 4: And I'm not going to imply that the Ravens defense

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Speaker 4: But as number one run defenses go, it's not like

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Speaker 4: Sarah Goosa and Lewis and those guys. I mean, some

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Speaker 4: it's the best in the league. Good run defense, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not necessarily you know that much better than

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Speaker 3: HM.

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Speaker 4: And they don't have a special defensive lineman, they have

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Speaker 2: So the first game they did target Brandon Stevens the most, okay,

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Speaker 2: nine targets to Brandon on Brandon Stevens, seven completions for

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Speaker 4: Yeah that might that might be the key here is

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Speaker 4: you know, maybe at all levels. Yeah, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: And I think I don't care which of the Steelers

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Speaker 2: You know, and go do it.

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Speaker 4: Which implies and I think the eyeball test from what

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Speaker 4: I have a problem with how often the Steelers snap

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Speaker 2: At him like he's a small back. Now, he's two

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if Nause will be back

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Speaker 2: On the defense touches him, but everybody on the defense

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Speaker 4: Like, Okay, that's not great. You're in third and three

439
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Speaker 4: now and you may end up hunting. But when you

440
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Speaker 4: sustain those drives in the second half, you landed some

441
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Speaker 4: body blows in the second round. Yeah, you know what

442
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Speaker 4: I mean. Yeah, there's it's a big picture fight, you know. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 4: you maybe even win the round in the second round,

444
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Speaker 4: but you land a lot of body blows.

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Speaker 2: And that's I mean, if you look at the Steeler

446
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Speaker 2: games over the course of the season.

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Speaker 4: That's definitely there's a lot of that. There's a lot

448
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Speaker 4: of that, and that was one of the Eagle problems.

449
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Speaker 4: They couldn't they never had the ever could do that.

450
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Speaker 4: They moved the ball in the second half, right, but

451
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Speaker 4: they couldn't be the hammer.

452
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: They were more than nail, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. So Russell Wilson as well. I touched on

455
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Speaker 2: this in my five for Friday this season. His passer

456
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Speaker 2: rating in the first quarter is seventy seven, which is

457
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Speaker 2: not great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, that's below average the offensive been all year.

459
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Speaker 4: And then it gets better and better and better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. After that, though, he just gets better and better

461
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Speaker 2: and better, to the point where his passer rating in

462
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Speaker 2: the second half of games is one hundred and twenty.

463
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Speaker 4: Four really doesn't surprise me. Again, It's kind of like

464
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Speaker 4: I was just saying, what the first down, second down run.

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Speaker 2: Through the touch and maybe I didn't put my five

466
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Speaker 2: for Friday this week.

467
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Speaker 4: I maybe you should. I probably shouldn't get there. Yeah,

468
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Speaker 4: put it in your ten thoughts after it gets in

469
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Speaker 4: this game.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

471
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Speaker 4: But again I keep you when I when I cite

472
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Speaker 4: things like that, people are like, well, why don't the

473
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Speaker 4: Steelers prepare better? You know, I'm like, well, it's kind

474
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Speaker 4: of a glass half empty, half full thing, you know,

475
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Speaker 4: Like you can either commend them for adjusting throughout the

476
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Speaker 4: course of the game, particularly halftime adjustments, or you can

477
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Speaker 4: be the negative side of it and be like, well

478
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Speaker 4: you didn't prepare enough well enough during the week you

479
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Speaker 4: never know how team, Yeah, I would rather be the

480
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Speaker 4: team that adjusts well, right because I know what they're doing.

481
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Speaker 4: I'm seeing that this guy can block this guy, or man,

482
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Speaker 4: his ankle's worse than I thought, or you know, I mean,

483
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Speaker 4: you don't know what happened during their weekend.

484
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Speaker 2: Perhaps the last Ravens game is a perfect example that

485
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Speaker 2: you didn't know they were going to take Kyle Hamilton

486
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Speaker 2: and put him twenty and you know most.

487
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Speaker 4: Of they don't let you come to practice.

488
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Speaker 2: No, you know, you just didn't know.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what we think they're going to do.

490
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Speaker 4: We know them well, but this is they took a

491
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Speaker 4: totally different approach. He's got a bad limb and the.

492
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Speaker 2: Best you know, the other safeties. Now it's our Darius,

493
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Speaker 2: Washington and Hamilton playing safety exclusively.

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Speaker 4: I think any coach would tell you I would rather,

495
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Speaker 4: you know, if I'm a head guy, I would rather

496
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Speaker 4: hire the coordinator that is a great in game adjuster.

497
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Speaker 4: Then I don't say guess is right during the week,

498
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Speaker 4: but you know has a better bed during the week

499
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Speaker 4: because so much changes.

500
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Speaker 2: Of course, yeah you don't know who's in, who's out. Yeah,

501
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Speaker 2: all that stuff. And maybe it's even a good question

502
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Speaker 2: for Missy. But like I loved when I was with

503
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Speaker 2: teams hovering around the O line coaches and they'd be

504
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Speaker 2: like the three techniques six inches shaded towards the ball

505
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Speaker 2: more than he used to be, so that kills my

506
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Speaker 2: blocking angles. I mean, like it's down to the minute detail.

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Speaker 4: My first step has to be six inches shorter than

508
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Speaker 4: I thought, you know, Like that's the kind of stuff

509
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Speaker 4: they do in the middle of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's crazy. That's why they had the

511
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Speaker 2: overheads are all looking at the topway.

512
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Speaker 4: Yeah, like look at his alignment. It's a little bit

513
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Speaker 4: different than it's been all the time.

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's how they break things down during

515
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Speaker 2: the week, right when they're watching film, like if he's here,

516
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Speaker 2: this is where we want to get him to And

517
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Speaker 2: then are oh he shifted over.

518
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Speaker 4: Third and long. TJ's usually is really wide, you know,

519
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: like he did that a lot against Lane Johnson. But

520
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Speaker 4: on this play he's creeping in.

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Speaker 2: Why is that?

522
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Speaker 4: You know, what's he what? What's he thinking? You know,

523
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Speaker 4: you're getting each other's head.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, let's get to a break. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

526
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Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Or take

527
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Speaker 2: a break. When we come back, we'll be joined by

528
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Speaker 2: Steelers Sideline reporter Missy Matthews. Right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are bad Guy and Dale Lowy. He is

533
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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we're joined on the Justin Miller Hotline,

534
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Speaker 2: which is being manned today by CJ.

535
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Speaker 4: Wolfley substitute teacher.

536
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Speaker 2: We got the substitute teacher, and so we're just gonna

537
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Speaker 2: go be go crazy. Yeah, No, one's gonna be able

538
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Speaker 2: to throw stuff around the studio, all that good stuff.

539
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Speaker 2: We're joined by Missy Matthews, Steelers sideline reporter, getting ready

540
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Speaker 2: to head down to Baltimore for yet another Steelers Ravens game.

541
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Speaker 2: And Missy, is it is it hard to believe that

542
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Speaker 2: the Steelers have won eight of the last nine of

543
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Speaker 2: these or is it you? I mean, because when you

544
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Speaker 2: think of this rivalry, it's always, well, it's back and forth.

545
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Speaker 2: It's back and forth. Really hasn't been much back and

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Speaker 2: forth of late.

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Speaker 3: No, it is very weird. Eight of the last night

548
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Speaker 3: and I think especially the last four in Baltimore. And

549
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Speaker 3: I know there's caveats, like last year Lamar didn't play,

550
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Speaker 3: they didn't have to play. They knew, you know, where

551
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Speaker 3: they were situated in terms of playoff seating. But it

552
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Speaker 3: doesn't feel right when you talk about Steelers Ravens. I

553
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Speaker 3: do think the fact that you know, it's usually no

554
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Speaker 3: one's scoring twenty points or more. It's always close, it's

555
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Speaker 3: always fluky, like six field goals to win it, you know,

556
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Speaker 3: just Steelers Ravens never make sense. But it does feel

557
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Speaker 3: like at some point the damn has to break. I

558
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Speaker 3: hope it's not this weekend for sure, because I just

559
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Speaker 3: think for the Steelers to win it, to clinch the North,

560
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Speaker 3: to be done with that and not worrying about what

561
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Speaker 3: other people are doing or what they have to do

562
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Speaker 3: the rest of the way to get healthy for the

563
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Speaker 3: postseason would just be huge.

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Speaker 4: Miss. This sounds disrespectful to coach Harbaugh, who I think

565
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Speaker 4: is an easy Hall of Famer and one of the

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Speaker 4: best in the business. But do you kind of get

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Speaker 4: the impression that Tomlin might have a better beat on

568
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Speaker 4: him than the other way around?

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Speaker 3: Oh? For sure. I mean I feel like coach Salmon

570
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Speaker 3: has a pretty good, you know, feel on a lot

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Speaker 3: of people like whether not even just you know, coaches players.

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Speaker 3: That's one of his unique qualities that is not just

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Speaker 3: exclusive you know, to football or to sports, just as

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Speaker 3: a human being. You know, that's something you can't really

575
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Speaker 3: teach people how to be able to read people like that.

576
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Speaker 3: But for sure, and I do think, you know, you

577
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Speaker 3: can go back to the last game of Derrick Henry

578
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Speaker 3: fumbled the ball, but then it just felt like you

579
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Speaker 3: weren't seeing the Derrick Henry that we saw the first

580
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Speaker 3: ten weeks of the season heading into week eleven. So

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Speaker 3: was it a mind game type thing? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the whole like Deontay Johnson experiment clearly didn't

583
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Speaker 3: work out for John Harball and his team. I don't know.

584
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Speaker 3: It's it's definitely interesting. But I hope that that streak,

585
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Speaker 3: what is it, twenty one and fifteen now coach t

586
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Speaker 3: versus John Harball. I hope that continues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you just look at that and it really

588
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Speaker 2: is kind of a divisional thing. One of the things

589
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Speaker 2: that the Steelers have done. You know, they have the

590
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Speaker 2: second best record within the division since twenty twenty and

591
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Speaker 2: it's them and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Probably the best over the last year and plus now

593
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Speaker 4: twenty three, twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think so, yeah, Yeah, that shows that

595
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Speaker 2: you have a pretty good beat on the opponents that

596
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Speaker 2: you are the most familiar with, and maybe they don't have.

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Speaker 2: Matt and I were talking about this yesterday. I think,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you asked national analysts, people outside of

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh whatever, whoever they are, who has more talent, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers or the Ravens. I think I think the winner

601
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Speaker 2: would be the Ravens. And yet the Steelers have won

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Speaker 2: eight and the last nine of these things.

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Speaker 4: And especially over the entire Lamar era.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that speaks to the coaching aspect of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just the Steelers were underdogs at home

606
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Speaker 3: against the Ravens right week. A love it, but I

607
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Speaker 3: like that. I feel like the Steelers play with a

608
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Speaker 3: chip on their shoulder when they're the underdogs. I don't

609
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Speaker 3: like when everything's happy and pretty and rainbows and you know,

610
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Speaker 3: we could say snowfall today since it's like a winter

611
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Speaker 3: wonderland here in Pittsburgh. I kind of like it when

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Speaker 3: you know people are down them and you know, saying

613
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Speaker 3: that this is going to be the time Lamar is

614
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Speaker 3: going to finally you know, figure you guys out.

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Speaker 4: So I get a kick out of I don't travel

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Speaker 4: with the team like all you guys do, but you know,

617
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Speaker 4: I sit there in my lazy boy and away games

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Speaker 4: and watch. But I can really get a kick out

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Speaker 4: of how all of you folks that I work with

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Speaker 4: that go to the games treat all these different cities.

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Speaker 4: Like last week, nobody was excited to go to Philly.

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Speaker 4: None of you guys are Philly is the worst?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: What's Baltimore like? Is it? Is it fun?

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Speaker 2: Or is it scary?

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Speaker 4: Or is it?

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Speaker 2: Boy?

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Speaker 4: I got a lot more good memories here than you'd think.

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Speaker 4: Or just get me out of here, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I will say, as much as it pains

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Speaker 3: me to admit this, but I actually really like M

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Speaker 3: and T Bank Stadium. If it's even called out anymore.

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Speaker 3: I just think, you know, from where the press boxes

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Speaker 3: the radio.

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Speaker 2: Boost, they're going to move that on us next year,

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Speaker 2: you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Know, I know enjoy it right this last time, I

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Speaker 3: do think that that's really nice. Obviously it's a hostile

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Speaker 3: work environment, uh and I kind of enjoy that as well,

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Speaker 3: you know. I feel like we've experienced that throughout pretty

641
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Speaker 3: much the entire road season that we've been on. No

642
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 3: one's frankly been you know, open arms and nice. But

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Speaker 3: this isn't a place where Steelers fans can take over.

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Speaker 3: But I hope I see some of them there. It's

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Speaker 3: you know, godspeed to those people. But I also love seafood,

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Speaker 3: so I like that aspect of Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: The seafood does sound pretty enjoyable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good restaurant. Good restaurant, So I'll get that. True.

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Speaker 4: Crab cakes pre games.

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Speaker 3: Usually, yeah, maybe they do it at halftime too. Dale

651
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Speaker 3: would have to confirm that Max and I are usually

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Speaker 3: eating on crustables.

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Speaker 2: From the lock. In terms of uh, I saw some

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Speaker 2: some fans tweeting about I can't believe there weren't more

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Speaker 2: Steeler fans in Philadelphia last week. I didn't expect her

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Speaker 2: to be. I expect her to be almost none for

657
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 2: this game in Baltimore. And this is when Mike Tomlin

658
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: talks about hostile environments. This is the most hostile of

659
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: environments in terms of the crowd understanding the game. The

660
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: loudes that you know, that's just how loud they are. Yeah, yeah,

661
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 2: And you know, the crowds in Cleveland are hostile, the

662
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: crowds in Cincinnati hostile. But this one, to me is

663
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: the one that I circle every year, like, Okay, that's

664
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Speaker 2: going to be maybe their toughest game unless they're going

665
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: to Kansas City or Buffalo or somewhere like that road

666
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: game in terms of that, and I'll be interested to

667
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: see how the line reacts their offensive, the Steelers offensive

668
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: line plays in the in that kind of setting, They've

669
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: had kind of a build up to this. They didn't

670
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 2: play super didn't play super well last week in Philadelphia.

671
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Speaker 2: So but I look at this, that one, Missy, is

672
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: like a kind of a warm up for what they're

673
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Speaker 2: going to face here and then into the playoffs.

674
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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna getting easier in road playoff.

675
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Speaker 3: Games, right, Yeah, no, no doubt. And I think that's

676
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: why it's so important to get the win tomorrow. So

677
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: you know, you have at least one playoff game in

678
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 3: the comforts of home where we have seen them play

679
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: rather well, other than that Dallas game that you know,

680
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: kind of came down to the wire, Land and Roberts

681
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: almost had it. Dak Prescott made a great play. But

682
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: you know, and it goes back to your point of

683
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: you know, on paper, people would say, well the Ravens

684
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: have a better team. It's like, well, the Steelers already

685
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: clinched a playoff spot, and I understand they didn't win

686
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: to get it last week, but they still did enough

687
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: leading up to that point where they were able to clinch.

688
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: The Ravens are still looking to do so, So it

689
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 3: does feel lopsided in a way, But I do think that,

690
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 3: you know, Ravens fans hate the Steelers, hate the Steelers,

691
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: and to know that they could possibly get hat and

692
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 3: T shirts on your field where you're probably not clinching

693
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: a playoff game unless two other teams lose, that's probably

694
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 3: not gonna, you know, make them the best hosts. So

695
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: I'm anxious to see what this crowd is like.

696
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: Do raven fans hate the Steelers more than Steelers fans

697
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: hate the Ravens or is it fifty to fifty true?

698
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: Fifty to fifty, right, I mean they probably need us

699
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 3: more now just because they haven't been able to as

700
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: a Blak and.

701
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: We've got a lot more trophies in them, a little

702
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: more history.

703
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, I just well, Plus I think too,

704
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: you know, Lamar has not played the Steelers at home

705
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: in front of a crowd because that twenty twenty season

706
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: was Bizar, So I think it'll be interesting to see

707
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: how that affects. You know, then, obviously having a home

708
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: crowd is a huge advantage, especially when these two teams

709
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Speaker 3: are playing.

710
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Speaker 4: I have a quick Lamar question for you. I think

711
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: everyone out there knows his record against the NFC is

712
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: obscenely good, like rarely does he lose a game against

713
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 4: the NFC, and Dale and I have talked about this

714
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: for years. I think it's just because he's such a

715
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: unique player. You can't simulate him. If you don't see

716
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: him often as a defense, you're taking aback by him.

717
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: So when you're on the field and you've seen him live,

718
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: does his speed and explosion really stand out to you

719
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: just being that close on the field.

720
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Speaker 3: I think so. I mean we see him more often,

721
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 3: as you said, I mean, he's one and four, so

722
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: I can't say, you know, it's like seeing Joe Burrow

723
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: or whoever. You know, even going back to like Flacco,

724
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: you know, how many times have you seen that matchup

725
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: when he was with the Ravens. But he is just

726
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 3: a unique player where it does catch your eye. And

727
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's why, like you said, with NSD teams,

728
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: you can't just turn on the tape and figure it

729
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: out that week. It's something and it's it's why the

730
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 3: Steelers and the Ravens and other teams in the AFC

731
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: North Draft and build their teams around beating each other.

732
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: I think with especially the Steelers in the Ravens. It's

733
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: kind of like, hey, you know that's the team that

734
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: if you can sweep, that gives you huge dividends when

735
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: it comes to trying to win a division title.

736
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, Missy. How do you expect Mike Tomlin

737
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: to approach this particular game in terms of obviously it's

738
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 2: a there's a lot on the line here, we're gonna

739
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: see guys playing a little bit nicked up and that

740
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But do you expect the rotation more

741
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: in this game? But knowing that they got to come

742
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: back and play on Christmas, do you expect them to

743
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: rotate more than you know, maybe even they typically do,

744
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: or do you expect him now we're going to play

745
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: this like a normal game and we'll worry about Wednesday Wednesday.

746
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I kind of feel like because knowing you can

747
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 3: lock up the division tomorrow with a win, it's going

748
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: to be we're going to play it like it's normal.

749
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Speaker 3: I feel like, if you know there's a guy who's

750
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 3: possibly on the verge of re injuring something, then maybe

751
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: that's a special case scenario. But I just feel like

752
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: if you if you lock up the division tomorrow, then

753
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 3: that doesn't make you feel like you have to rush

754
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: to George Pickens back or whoever. On a short week

755
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 3: against the Kansas City Chiefs. Of course, would you love

756
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: to go three and out three and oh the rest

757
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 3: of the way out, of course, But I think just

758
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: what's on the line tomorrow with the game and the division,

759
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: I think he's going to play it, you know, straightforward.

760
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: And the for the Mike Tomlin Show that airs on

761
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 3: Katie K. When we were taping that with him this week,

762
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: one of the things that stood out that he said

763
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 3: was how controlling emotions, playing a clean game, to him,

764
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 3: that is what is ultimately going to decide it. Both

765
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 3: teams are probably thinking the same thing, but he said,

766
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Speaker 3: especially for his team in terms of no penalties, especially

767
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: self inflicted ones, you know you just can't have those,

768
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: and then understanding the gravity of the game in the moment,

769
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Speaker 3: but then also not letting that get to you.

770
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Speaker 2: Yeah. My big thing is like, okay, so if they

771
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 2: play sixty defensive snaps and normally Cam Hayward would play

772
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: fifty of those, does he still play fifty of the

773
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: sixty snaps or is it forty five? Because he knows,

774
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: you know, they know that, Hey, we got another game

775
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: in four days and camps thirty five.

776
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Speaker 4: And they played a lot of snaps last week.

777
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they played especially defensively. They played a ton

778
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: of snaps last week.

779
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, maybe.

780
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 4: The Lowries of the yeah yeah, get a little.

781
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: More involved, right, And I think that's that's why you

782
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: went and got Dean Lowry this offseason. I think, you know,

783
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: a lot of people say just Sean Elliet is one

784
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 3: of the most under rated signings, but like Dean Lowry

785
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: has blocked kicks, he has been able to step in

786
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 3: and add that depth.

787
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Speaker 2: And I played well last week.

788
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

789
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Speaker 2: I thought he was one of the guys that actually

790
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: stood out in that game.

791
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt, And I think sometimes people forget about him.

792
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: But I do think that, you know, Alex high Smith

793
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: will be available this game.

794
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 2: We saw it.

795
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: Nick Krbig was able to do even you know, Peyton

796
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: Wilson his first game against the Ravens. So I do

797
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 3: think you you almost want to like put Camona in

798
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: like you know, a bubble rap a little bit, but

799
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: at the same time you need him to contain Lamar

800
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: and to shut him down. But then at the same

801
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: time you do have to think you want cam to

802
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: keep playing at this level. And as you said, he's

803
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: thirty five, there's a game on Wednesday, and then you know,

804
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: the postseason's coming, so he might be one of the

805
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: guys that I would say, they're not going to play

806
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: straight up like they normally would.

807
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 4: Some miss you not to bring up bad memories during

808
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 4: the jolly holiday season, but what was the second half

809
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: like on the on the sidelines, you know, what kind

810
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: of attitude, what kind of vibes were you getting while

811
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 4: the defense was just out there for the entire half?

812
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: Basically, Yeah, I think a lot of frustration, especially you

813
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 3: know from the offense. And then it was a matter

814
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't really really cool. It was actually

815
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: warmer than I thought it was going to end up

816
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: being in Philly. But I think it was you know,

817
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: trying to keep your body ready to go out if

818
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: somehow the defense got the ball, you know, off of

819
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 3: the Eagles for you. And that was something that whether

820
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: it was the quarterbacks throwing you know, receivers and running

821
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: back kind of doing like high knees, sitting on the bench,

822
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: going in front of the heat, getting your gloves off

823
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 3: but then putting your cap back on. It was just

824
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: one of those things where you could tell they so

825
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 3: badly wanted to be able to get out there and

826
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: try to write the ship. But frustration, I think would

827
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: be the main theme of what we saw.

828
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Speaker 2: So Missy, if we're sitting here on Monday and the

829
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: Steelers have won this game, or even after the game,

830
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: and we're chatting, who's just who's the reason why they

831
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: win this game? Hmm, I'm gonna say I'll go with

832
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: a lot.

833
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go with a lot. I think it's

834
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: going to be an outside linebacker. Yeah, and I think

835
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 3: TJ is like an obvious one, but you know that

836
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 3: can sometimes help an Alex or Nick Kurbig. So I

837
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be an outside linebacker.

838
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well we will let you get back

839
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: to getting ready to h to head out to the airport.

840
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: I'll see you out there in a little bit. But

841
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: our guest has been Missy Matthews, Steelers side line reporter.

842
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 2: We appreciate the Missy dropping by she does every Friday.

843
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: Here on the drive. He's Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie.

844
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: You're listening to the drive. We'll be back with more

845
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: right after this.

846
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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

847
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

848
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

849
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the

850
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt. We had a game last night

851
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: that affects the playoff seating in the AFC.

852
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 4: The Chargers really put her in the outcome, right.

853
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: The Chargers beat the Denver Broncos thirty four to twenty seven,

854
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: and he.

855
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 4: Was starting to get under the Chargers there for a while.

856
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a big win for them.

857
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: They knew that bad. They got to sweep over the Broncos.

858
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 2: They're both now nine and six, so they're both three

859
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: games ahead of the Colts, the Dolphins, and the Bengals.

860
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: Everybody else in the AFC has been eliminated that might

861
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: do it, It could do it. Yeah, here's the thing.

862
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: So the Broncos now now they're little concerned. Yeah, they

863
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: have two games left. They play Cincinnati at home next.

864
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: Week and presumably since he's still gonna be alive.

865
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Speaker 2: Since he would still be alive if they beat Browns

866
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 2: this week, and then they play the Chiefs in the

867
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: last game of the season. Uh or sorry, they're at Cincinnati,

868
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: and then there you have the Chiefs at home in

869
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: the final week of the season.

870
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 4: Who knows what the Chiefs or have not to play for, right.

871
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: They need to win one of those games or they

872
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: need the Colts, the Colts, Dolphins, or Bengals to lose

873
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: a game or tie.

874
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 4: So their fear is all three of those teams win out, right,

875
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: which I guess only one of them have to, right.

876
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they would lose the tiebreaker. Well, no,

877
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: they beat the Colts had to head Okay, so they

878
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 2: have the tiebreaker of the Colts, so the Colts can't

879
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: catch them. Okay, I don't know how the Colts aren't limit.

880
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: I guess the Colts are still alive and no, they're

881
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: not even allive in a division race.

882
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: How Denver loses out and the Colts went out, Denver

883
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: still has the time.

884
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 2: I think they would need a three way tie for

885
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: the Colts to get.

886
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 4: Then the tie breakers all get goofy.

887
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they win the time breaker over Miami based on

888
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: head to head percent. I'm reading this off of the

889
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 2: So the Colts win. They have the tiebreaker right now

890
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: over Miami because they're all six and eight. They win

891
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: the tiebreaker over Cincinnati based on best win percentage in

892
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: conference games, so that what they would need to do

893
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: then was they they would need a three way tie.

894
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: Their win over Denver right now would would eliminate the

895
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 2: Broncos or they're somehow Yeah, yeah, they need a lot

896
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: of stuff to happen. They need some stuff to happen.

897
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: The Dolphins win the tiebreaker over Cincinnati based on best

898
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 2: win percentage in conference games, and the Bengals right now

899
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: are ten, but they might have the best path to get.

900
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 4: There just in terms of who they play and Dave

901
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: Drove Burrow, Yeah, they still have a bad deal.

902
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: Their win, their strength of victory is the worst in

903
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: the conference.

904
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 4: It's kind of a ma We were sort of texting

905
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: last night. The two teams have played as well as

906
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: some of these others.

907
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 2: Were the Chargers' best wins are over the Broncos. Yeah,

908
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: that's their two best wins. None of these teams have

909
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: good wins. No, I mean, like all five of them.

910
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 2: So the Bengals play the Browns, the Broncos, and then

911
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 2: at the Steelers. That game next week Broncos Bengals is huge,

912
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: He's huge.

913
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, unless the Bengals lose this week, but.

914
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: They're not gonna lose. Although Burrow against Cleveland has not

915
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: been good. What the weathers we like? Yeah, his record

916
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: against the Browns.

917
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 4: Is you know, it's rough.

918
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but either way, so let's say let's say Cincinnati

919
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 2: would happen to get in. Let's say this, the Steelers win,

920
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: either they win Sunday or two more Saturday, I should

921
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: say they clinched a division. They rest guys in the

922
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: final week of the season, which is would be wonderful.

923
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: I wouldn't They're not. They're probably not going to rest

924
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of guys against the Chiefs on Christmas Day

925
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: because then you'd have guys off for over two weeks

926
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: right before your playoff game. But you could rest guys

927
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: in that game against the Bengals and it's not.

928
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: Even wrestled guys against the Chiefs or yeah, the Cam

929
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 4: Haywards of the world I get. I'm not saying like

930
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: make them inactive, but like play a half or you know,

931
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 4: here and there.

932
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 2: Even if the Bengals were to get in, they would

933
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: be the seventh seed. You're not going to see them

934
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: probably not right, Yeah, Yeah, you'd be the three. I

935
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: don't really fear the Bengals. I mean, I want to

936
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: keep really good quarterbacks out. And Herbert made a case

937
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: to he's scary still and Burrow's definitely scary.

938
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: I don't know. I kind of think Denver is a

939
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 4: team of those three, or of all the non AFC

940
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: North wild card teams. I think Denver is the best team.

941
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: Of the group. They have a defense, they have a defense. Oh,

942
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: it didn't play great yesterday in the second half.

943
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: Second half that fell apart. None of them super worry me,

944
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 4: you know. I mean again, the Bengals defenses horendous. It

945
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 4: just hasn't shown up that way quite yet. And I

946
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 4: don't know if it will get the Browns, but the

947
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 4: dr Yeah, but overall, I mean, my takeaway from last

948
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: night's game is those are probably the two remaining wild

949
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: card team. Probably a pretty wild turn of events for

950
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: that not to happen now, Yeah, and the Chargers needed it.

951
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: I can't. I don't think he the ones particular.

952
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's strength of victory is two twenty six.

953
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing.

954
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 2: Twenty six. That is the worst. Only the only one

955
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: that is worse than that is Carolina. Caroline's two fourteen.

956
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: Like all Cincinnati does is beat the really bad teams.

957
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of you know, small narrow losses.

958
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 4: But they found a way to lose over and over

959
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: this year.

960
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Their problem is they would lose a tiebreaker to Miami.

961
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 4: I mean, their conference record has to destroy them.

962
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: Miami has the forty nine ers at home this week.

963
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: Win the victory is not good either. Then they play

964
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 2: at Cleveland and that.

965
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 4: BA against the Niners. I bet they are should be.

966
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 4: They're in a better place. Yeah, you know the Colts.

967
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 4: You know, we'll see about that. But yeah, it's.

968
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: Let's somebody else worry about that. It's nice to have

969
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 2: somebody else worried about, you know, having to do this

970
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 2: or that to get into the playoffs.

971
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, absolutely. And I don't see any of those

972
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 4: teams as contenders. No, I mean there's what five teams

973
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 4: we just mentioned the AFC that are fringe or in

974
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: some of them are good stories, you know, Like.

975
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: I do think in many ways, seeing Cincinnati go to

976
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: Buffalo in the first week of the playoffs would be interesting.

977
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 4: Oh it would be a fun watch.

978
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Or seeing them let's let's say they had

979
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: to go to Kansas City.

980
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 4: So maybe you look at it from this perspective.

981
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: They couldn't Well, they could go to Kansas City.

982
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, could any of those teams upset Buffalo? Cincinnati is

983
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 4: one I think that has the best chance.

984
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Burrow just plays out of his mind, shootout, whether win.

985
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: Right right right right, Maybe Alan fumbles onto or something,

986
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: you know, something goofy happens.

987
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 3: You know.

988
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: I can't imagine Denver, the Chargers, or the Colts or

989
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 4: Miami going to Buffalo and winning in round one. No,

990
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 4: you know, but that'd be great. Maybe you don't want

991
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: to see Burrow in the playoffs, but I'd rather not

992
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 4: see Allen and his buddies.

993
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing is, could Burrow do it multiple times

994
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: in the playoffs?

995
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 4: I would have my I have my doubts. Yeah, yeah,

996
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 4: I'd love to see them eliminate Buffalo, But I think

997
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 4: they're the only team that could probably pull it off.

998
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 4: They don't have the chance to go there in round one,

999
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 4: but they got a lot of things have to happen

1000
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 4: their way.

1001
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, as it stands right now,

1002
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: if Buffalo and does end up as a seventh seed,

1003
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: I mean you're looking at Denver, Indianapolis, Miami, or Cincinnati

1004
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 2: going there. I'm with you, Cincinnati would have the best chance.

1005
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: The only one that if there, If everything all the

1006
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 4: chips fell right, those two quarterbacks could do it out

1007
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 4: and maybe Allen comes out short. Yeah, you know, it's possible.

1008
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: It's possible, but not probable.

1009
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1010
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: But that would get you out of a few If

1011
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: the Steelers do end up as a three seed, that.

1012
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 4: Would get them out of having to oh yeah go

1013
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 4: to Buffalo the second game. Yeah, yeah, right, which would

1014
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: be fine, right right right, And well I just said

1015
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 4: even the five seed doesn't worry me that much. But

1016
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: I am really interested to see what Houston looks like

1017
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 4: down the stretch here. There's no way they're offensive lines

1018
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 4: as bad as it's been. I mean, I don't know.

1019
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 2: By this point in the season, you kind of are

1020
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 2: what you are now.

1021
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 4: I mean, but like, I don't even know who their

1022
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 4: O line coaches. And this is rough. But he's doing

1023
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 4: a very poor job whoever he is, because all of

1024
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 4: a sudden, Tunsell has been a top three left tackle

1025
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 4: in the league. He can't block anyone and doesn't know

1026
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 4: who to block. The guard that they.

1027
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 2: Got being penalized like the highest rate in the league.

1028
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: Mason's been a really good guard. Can't block a so

1029
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: aul anymore? Like what's going on here? Like the good

1030
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: players got bad? Let alone the Kendrick Greens of the world.

1031
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: Now what that makes you want? I mean, maybe I

1032
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: don't know if Tunsell's playing through something or who knows,

1033
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: maybe just hit a wall in his career.

1034
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: I mean he's not and he's just dying. Yeah, I mean,

1035
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 4: could happen to both those guys. I mean, it's kind

1036
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: of what happened, like Marcus Williams to me at some

1037
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 4: point that all their time catches up with everybody. It's

1038
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: tough with the front office, Like I think I got

1039
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 4: another year of this guy, But what if I'm wrong? Right? Right?

1040
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: I mean that's the question you had about Cam Hayward

1041
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: before this, right you No, no, no, And some guys

1042
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 2: are just built differently. M hmm, some aren't right right, right?

1043
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: You know, we just have a contingency plan.

1044
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's gonna do it. For hour number one, Matt,

1045
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: good stuff, Yep, let's get to another break. He is

1046
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the

1047
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. When we come back,

1048
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 2: we'll get to pick our DFS lineup for the week.

1049
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: With the Fantasy Football Focus, we'll get into uh, some

1050
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: of the matchups here across the league. A big weekend

1051
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 2: in football starting Saturday with some games. Yeah, good time.

1052
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 2: I can't wait for that. And then well we'll make

1053
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: our pick on these Steelers and Ravens game. We'll I'll

1054
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: do all that in our number two right after this