WEBVTT - “I WANT TO BECOME A DOG”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hi there.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bug? Is this? Is this the gecko?

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<v Speaker 1>This is the gecko? What's up? Bug? Just a just

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<v Speaker 1>a bug and a gecko. Hey, be careful or I'll

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<v Speaker 1>eat you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ha. No, don't do that, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bug, what's going on with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you want to talk about today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm this is kind of crazy. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this is all that relatable. But I don't really feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a person, you know, sometimes I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, uh, the dog is that real? Is that

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<v Speaker 2>a real thing people experience?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're real and you're experiencing it, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, type ship that's true?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually all right, so you feel like you might be

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<v Speaker 1>a du here's the thing I've and I know people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna want to make this into like a weird

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<v Speaker 1>furry sex thing because that's just but no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I know, I know. I've also

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<v Speaker 1>thought about I've thought about this multiple times. This is

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<v Speaker 1>You're not alone in this. I've looked at dogs. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a funny thing to say confidently, like it's like you're

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<v Speaker 1>something you're bragging about. I've looked at dogs, many dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>and I noticed that. You know, I think people are

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<v Speaker 1>happiest when they're like in the moment, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you're depressed, you're like thinking about I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>might be depressed thinking about the future or the past.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're anxious, you're thinking about the future. But

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<v Speaker 1>like if you're really like happy, it's when you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>you're really present. And dogs are like the most their

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<v Speaker 1>brains like are so they're so stupid that they can't

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<v Speaker 1>even the future or the past. They just are are.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're so stupid they can only be exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>they are and that's why they're always Also, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like puppies literally just get to be like told they're

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<v Speaker 2>doing a good job every day for like just sitting down.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds so easy. Yeah, they can like piss outside

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<v Speaker 2>and be, oh shit, good job, bro. Like what, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get up at seven am and go to class.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta write a paper why no, being a dog

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<v Speaker 2>is being That sounds so much easier.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, But here's the thing, and I'll put it

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I'll put it to you like this. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I was debating with my friend the other day about

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not it would be easier, like whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not it would be easier to be dead. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about this on the podcast too, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not to be easier to be dead, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feels like a similar argument it'd be easier

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<v Speaker 1>to be a dog. But I think ultimately it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>more rewarding to be a human being. You have access

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<v Speaker 1>to a greater breadth of life experience as a human

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<v Speaker 1>than as a dog. Do you not agree with that?

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes? But I guess I don't really go out much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm kinda I'm kind of a homebody. I sort of

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<v Speaker 2>just smoke lead and play video games. So I'm enjoying.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I enjoying my experience?

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<v Speaker 1>And are you experience?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm still doing it, so I guess so.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, I feel like there's got to be more, right?

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<v Speaker 1>How old are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty?

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<v Speaker 1>What more do you desire for there to be?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even like anything? What the fuck? What more could? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't people? Don't people fall in love at some point? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't there stuff to do? I ain't never had no job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm twenty years old. I never had a job. That's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's very funny to me that when I asked

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<v Speaker 1>you what more there is to life? You said all

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<v Speaker 1>things that are human things, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like dogs?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, yeah yeah, but you're talking about like romance,

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<v Speaker 1>You're talking about like romantic love. I assume you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about romantic love. I don't think dogs feel romantic love.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel like familial love, and they certainly get very

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<v Speaker 1>horny and they fuck each other, but they I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that they like like that. Like no dog has ever, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, written a poem about a woman that he's

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<v Speaker 1>in love with, you know, like dog. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>dogs experience of that kind of love. They just get horny.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of humans as well also have not

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<v Speaker 1>experienced that kind of love and also just get horny.

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<v Speaker 1>But that feels like a human thing. And then jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>Some dogs have jobs, but most don't. So the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you're talking about wanting more out of your life

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<v Speaker 1>are they're human things right right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Dogs can't even smoke weed and play video games. So

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<v Speaker 1>your life experience would be if you think you're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting enough out of life right now, if you're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here going is this all there is? I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a dog, imagine all the things that you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Imagine all the things you're doing right now,

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<v Speaker 1>being like is this all there is? And then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of at least twelve of them and you

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<v Speaker 1>probably have like five things as a dog you can

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<v Speaker 1>you can do like five things.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actually I never thought about that like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be able to do. Wow. Actually, thank you you

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<v Speaker 2>opened my eyes to a lot of shit today.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about it like this. Everything that you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>smoking weed, playing video games, having a conversation with me

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<v Speaker 1>right now, going on Reddit and looking at bugs and shit,

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<v Speaker 1>all those things, those are all everything. Everything you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on Reddit, everything that you're doing is don't lie

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<v Speaker 1>and say you're not on ready, you're a redular. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>that you're doing is an amazing thing. Outside of that,

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<v Speaker 1>like a like to a dog, all the like, like

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<v Speaker 1>you're fantasizing about this like human life that doesn't exist

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<v Speaker 1>where you go like Walter Midi mode and you're, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>living the all these crazy experiences. But to a dog,

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<v Speaker 1>you're Walter Midty. You're living the crazy life, getting high

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<v Speaker 1>and playing video games right right, right right now, Let

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<v Speaker 1>me tell you something. Let me tell you something, even

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<v Speaker 1>crazier bug? Okay, all right, so we've established that getting high,

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<v Speaker 1>playing video games and going on Reddit and having conversations

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<v Speaker 1>with other people is like a crazy experience. Mm hmm

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<v Speaker 1>get this if you wanted to, if you wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>it could get even crazier, even crazier, crazier. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I mean, what do you what do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you want it to be crazy?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>What? What's what?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>What? What makes it crazier? How does it get crazier? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>How do I? How do I improve this? If I'm

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<v Speaker 2>if I can't, if I can't be a dog, or

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<v Speaker 2>if being a dog is a step down, then where

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<v Speaker 2>do I go? What do I? How do I expand

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good question. Well you want to fall in love? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Facts?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, you should probably get ripped? That would help.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you what?

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<v Speaker 3>What is this?

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<v Speaker 2>What is this idea that I'm on Reddit that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not like? What what do you?

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<v Speaker 1>What is hold on? I didn't infer hold on? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? You're right? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have assumed that you're not already ripped.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I'm not, but it's let's find though.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you should get ripped. That's one.

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<v Speaker 3>What else?

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<v Speaker 1>What else? All right? You want to fall in love?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you'll get ripped and fall in love. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we've done that. What else? What do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to climb a mountain? Do you wanna go

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<v Speaker 1>to China? What else is going on with you? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Climbing a mountain sounds kind of fun. Actually, I feel.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that might be dangerous, so you gotta get ripped

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<v Speaker 1>to do that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have to get ripped to go to China?

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<v Speaker 1>You do not have to get ripped to go to China.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'll be I'll be fat in China.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be fat in China. That sounds fun, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>They got good food too. Like I feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>could just be fat in China and then smoke weed

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<v Speaker 2>and get fatter in China.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we've been talking. Uh see, you're a dog,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, China. There's dogs in China. But no, if

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<v Speaker 1>if you were, like if you were a dog in America,

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<v Speaker 1>you could not of your own will go get fat

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<v Speaker 1>and smoke weed? In China. I'm pretty sure if you

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<v Speaker 1>smoke weed in China, they'll put you in jail for

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty years.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, because we'd like super legal and

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<v Speaker 2>like that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they probably probably I have no idea. But see,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were a dog, you couldn't go be fat

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<v Speaker 1>and go to China. I mean, if you're you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>at the behest of another of a human being taking

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<v Speaker 1>you there. And I would say ninety nine point nine

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<v Speaker 1>percent of dogs living in America have never been to China.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably true. I'd agree, No, you're probably right about that.

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<v Speaker 1>So have I can? I feel like I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've successfully convinced you that it's better to

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<v Speaker 1>be a human than a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I'm I'm starting to realize that being a

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<v Speaker 2>huge men might be the higher life one. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>starting to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, So you're gonna go get fat in China

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<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna come back and get ripped and fall

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<v Speaker 1>in love because that's two things you want? More? You

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<v Speaker 1>want more things? How many more things you want?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I just want. I just want to fall in

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<v Speaker 2>love right now. Honestly, I feel like falling in love

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<v Speaker 2>might fix me. Mm, but I I thought being a

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<v Speaker 2>dog would fix me. And then I called you, and

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<v Speaker 2>now I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you think being in love will fix you? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get vulnerable with you for a second about with this,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's an interesting I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>think of that, and I avoided that for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, I'm going to just dive

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<v Speaker 1>into you know, the whole thing. Well, I mean, you're

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're in a point where you should explore

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<v Speaker 1>yourself because I mean going from I think not wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to be a dog would fix you more than falling

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<v Speaker 1>in love, you know what I'm saying. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, I think falling in love, I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a nice I don't know. I don't know. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to I used to think it was like an accessorate

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<v Speaker 1>of life. But I do think it's an integral life thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's all sorts of integral life things, and falling

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<v Speaker 1>in love is just one of them. So you can't

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<v Speaker 1>just fall in love and then have the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>your life be like dog shit and then like that's

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<v Speaker 1>usually lean on that because then you're fucked. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>falling in love is part of a complete breakfast of life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right right? That makes sense? Do you think if

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<v Speaker 2>I was a villain I would be better? Like if

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<v Speaker 2>I was if I was a U, if I turned

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<v Speaker 2>to crime to spice up my life? If I turn

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<v Speaker 2>to something like you know I said earlier. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if you heard me when I said this, but

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<v Speaker 2>I said I never had a job and not twelve

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<v Speaker 2>years of life. If I turned to something like dealing

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<v Speaker 2>weed instead of smoking it, do you think I could?

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<v Speaker 5>Do?

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<v Speaker 2>You think that might be fulfilling?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you fucking talking about?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to like figure out like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>that being in love won't.

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<v Speaker 3>Figure being a dog?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are the two? Why are the three things in

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<v Speaker 1>your Why are the three things in your mind what

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<v Speaker 1>will fix you? Why are the three things in your

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<v Speaker 1>mind that will fix you being a dog, falling in

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<v Speaker 1>love and dealing weed? How did you arrive those three?

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<v Speaker 3>Love?

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<v Speaker 2>Money, love, and and and what do dogs get? They

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<v Speaker 2>get praise?

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<v Speaker 1>Dogs can't. Dogs can't deal with fall, Dogs can't deal

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<v Speaker 1>weed or fall in love. They can't do either of

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<v Speaker 1>those things, but they receive love. You can receive love

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<v Speaker 1>as a human being.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>So your friends, I have kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind friends are friend That's a weird concept. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really know what friends are.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not know what friends are? Tell me, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me more what you mean by that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that I really struggle keeping people close. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not really good at like opening up to people or

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<v Speaker 2>being myself around people. I'm also a Gemini and I

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<v Speaker 2>I have a really bad tendency of adopting other people's personalities.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is that an astrology thing? That's a this? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get some flag for this. But one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like. I don't like astrology because and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>by the way you seem like you do. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>open to being wrong. You can fill me in with

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<v Speaker 1>your take on my take. I'm open to that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like. One thing I don't like about astrology

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<v Speaker 1>is that I don't like the idea that it becomes

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<v Speaker 1>like a self fulfilling prophecy. Do you know what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you go on a website and it goes, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>because you were born at this time, you're an asshole

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<v Speaker 1>and then you go, oh, I must be an asshole

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<v Speaker 1>because I was born at this time. Or it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>because you were born at this time, you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to talk to people that well. And you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I guess that's true. And it's like becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a like what you think about yourself kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts become reality, you know what I mean? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's kind of like you manifest all the negative

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<v Speaker 2>shit right right right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't believe in manifestation in like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a woo woo way, but in this terms of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you read something on the internet that says that

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<v Speaker 1>because the moon is a certain way, you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to make friends, that you and you just repeat

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<v Speaker 1>that in your brain. You like, that becomes kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like a part of your uh self belief, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean it's fun. I guess it's it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun looking at stars and ship But anyway, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I didn't mean to take away from your personal

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<v Speaker 1>life experience to shit on astrology. What else? What else

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<v Speaker 1>do you? All right? Can I ask you this? What

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<v Speaker 1>have you taken away anything from this conversation that is

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<v Speaker 1>remotely positive.

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<v Speaker 2>That I should go to the gym and probably stop

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<v Speaker 2>thinking so negatively. That's good, but like, yeah, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>yeah that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you gonna get off at it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I'm not on it, like I bet. I still

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand where that came from. I was never on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole thing. Well, I guess I just I hope,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're not like you don't. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>all right. I'm gonna sound lame, but you're you're let

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<v Speaker 1>Your life is so precious. Why would you want to

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<v Speaker 1>give it away to be a stupid fucking dog?

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<v Speaker 6>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, okay, let me by the way, if

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<v Speaker 1>I can, just if I can do, if I can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you one final thing that would persuade you against

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<v Speaker 1>being a dog? Can I tell you this?

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 1>If you were what kind of dog would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Just real quick, I haven't thought about it that fucking much.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't fucking know a cool one.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were a dog. If you were a dog,

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<v Speaker 1>you would be dead as shit right now. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>twenty year old dog.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd be dead.

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<v Speaker 2>That is sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, why so next time you see a dog, I

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<v Speaker 1>would just I just if we can get anything from

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation. I just wanted to be the next time

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<v Speaker 1>you see a dog. Instead of being like, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I was a dog, just be like that dog's

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<v Speaker 1>a fucking loser. He has no idea how awesome it

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<v Speaker 1>is to be a human being, get high and play

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<v Speaker 1>video games and go to China.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to think about a dog like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about a dog like what, like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dog is a loser. I don't think any dogs are

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<v Speaker 2>a loser.

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<v Speaker 1>Some dogs are. I mean, listen, I think I think you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have a cooler life than most dogs,

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<v Speaker 1>or at minimum, you have the potential to have a

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<v Speaker 1>cooler life than most dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sure do.

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<v Speaker 1>You do you accept that ideology?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but like I don't think a dog is a

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<v Speaker 2>loser like I don't. I just think dogs, like I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they're just innocent little creatures.

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<v Speaker 1>Innocent little creatures who contribute nothing to the economy or society.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Because money is so real and important, but anywhere. Thank you, Gick,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>This therapy session, of course, bug is there anything else

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<v Speaker 1>you want to say to the people of the computer. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what? You know what dogs do

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<v Speaker 1>contribute to the sure? Why not? They contribute to it?

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<v Speaker 1>They contribute to the economy. I mean, I'll say this cartoon,

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<v Speaker 1>dogs contribute to the economy because people there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Family Guys shirts with Brian on them that people sell,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'll categorize that as dogs contributing to the economy. Bug,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer Before we go?

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone should pack a bowl or roll a joint And

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have papers, go to the corner store

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<v Speaker 2>right now and buy someone Yeah, thanks, see it. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a fern called bye Bye bug.

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<v Speaker 1>Dogs can't roll see bug. Dogs can't roll joints. They

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<v Speaker 1>have little they have little little pause. Hey folks, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Lyle. I am very excited to announce that I

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<v Speaker 1>am going back on tour in twenty twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>do Therapy Gecko live all across the country. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>never been to one of my live shows before, they

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<v Speaker 1>and presentations from myself, and if you've been to the

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<v Speaker 1>show before, I have new presentations and will of course

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope to see you guys there. Go to

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<v Speaker 1>bunch more dates very soon. Geck Bluss, Hi, what's your name?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh hey, Severa, nice to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, Severa. What's going on, Doug?

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<v Speaker 5>I am just waiting out like the last half hour

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<v Speaker 5>of work. I just got done, snake in a drain

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<v Speaker 5>and just waiting to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>Severa, you said to you texted me and you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to chat about the infinite checkerboard? What the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, So from my life and my memories, I've got

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<v Speaker 5>about three points right, three different sections. There's my adult memories,

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<v Speaker 5>my childhood into being six months old memories, and then

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<v Speaker 5>there's like a block of memories before that. And the

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<v Speaker 5>only way that I can describe it is it sort

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<v Speaker 5>of starts out with like this giant ring of light

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<v Speaker 5>and there's something or somebody standing there and I'm standing

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<v Speaker 5>there too, and then I start moving backwards, like along

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<v Speaker 5>my life, watching all of the things that I've done

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<v Speaker 5>from a different perspective and a different angle.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, dude, you are.

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<v Speaker 1>The most esoteric man in Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 5>Possibly possibly everybody that I tell this to sort of

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<v Speaker 5>react a little bit the same way. But it's like

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<v Speaker 5>it's just one of those things that sits inside of

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<v Speaker 5>my brain and it makes me question sort of how

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<v Speaker 5>everything is, because it's like, how is it possible for

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<v Speaker 5>me to have memories like this in a world that

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<v Speaker 5>people say, oh, it's this religion or it's that religion,

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<v Speaker 5>or people say, oh it's it's mechanical, it's stupid, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>there's nothing, it's just happenstance and stuff. It's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but then how do I run into this?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Because like so it goes from that to sort of

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<v Speaker 5>all of that stuff. Memories become the big jumble and

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<v Speaker 5>it's sort of like a panic attack, but on a

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<v Speaker 5>galactic scale. And then it becomes clear and I, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>or whoever I am at that time, I'm a sphere

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<v Speaker 5>with a mouth and no eyes. And I just realized

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<v Speaker 5>that I've been narrating everything that's been happening inside me,

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<v Speaker 5>like someone were to narrate every single action that goes

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<v Speaker 5>on in a universe, right, And I start looking around,

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<v Speaker 5>and I noticed that there are other shapes, other three

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<v Speaker 5>dimensional shapes, that are talking and doing the same thing

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<v Speaker 5>I was doing. And they are all in their own

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<v Speaker 5>little square, a black square and a red square. And

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<v Speaker 5>as I start to look out, I'm like, holy crap,

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<v Speaker 5>it's just an infinite checkerboard, almost, with an infinite number

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<v Speaker 5>of these different shapes and different colors, all doing the

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<v Speaker 5>same exact thing, which is just narrating everything that's going

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<v Speaker 5>on inside of them. And I turned to this pink sphere.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I can't decide if I would be more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to run into you on a pickleball court or under

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<v Speaker 1>a bridge.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, probably both. I like to hang out all places

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<v Speaker 5>as much as I can, you know, go see what

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<v Speaker 5>pickleball is, try that out, but also hang under a

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<v Speaker 5>bridge because there's usually not to a lot of people there,

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<v Speaker 5>and grow walks into the water.

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<v Speaker 1>No, continue, I want to hear the rest of this.

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<v Speaker 6>Hell.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So I looked through this pink sphere and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>guessing it's a sheet because as I understand now that

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<v Speaker 5>she sounded them and she's doing the same thing I'm doing,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm just like, hey, don't you think it's kind

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<v Speaker 5>of weird that every single one of us is a

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<v Speaker 5>three dimensional shape just talking about stuff that's going on

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<v Speaker 5>inside of us? And then she got upset and basically

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<v Speaker 5>told me to shut the hell up and then went

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<v Speaker 5>back to doing what she was doing. And from that point,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I kind of like uprooted and became free,

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<v Speaker 5>for lack of a better word, Right, and then I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just sort of floating and there's no coherency and there's

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<v Speaker 5>no consistency, and there's no like nothing that we experience now.

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<v Speaker 5>And the way that I know this is as whatever

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<v Speaker 5>this experiences I'm going through is continuing. I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 5>floating down this what could almost be perceived as a river,

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<v Speaker 5>and then in the middle in front of me, this

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<v Speaker 5>window opens up and suddenly there's a bicycle, and that

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<v Speaker 5>is the most profound thing that I think I felt

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<v Speaker 5>from them, because it's like, in whatever this is in

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<v Speaker 5>a place where the concept of concept, time, physicality, whatever

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't exist, there's something that is constant and it has

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<v Speaker 5>a name, and I know it has a name, and

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<v Speaker 5>I have no idea how I know what this thing is.

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 5>And then from there it's like more of these little windows,

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 5>and there's like a sailboat and another thing and another thing,

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.959
<v Speaker 5>and then it sort of just goes dark. And then

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 5>from there is when my first memory starts at six

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:47.440
<v Speaker 5>months old of my dad, my birthgiver, moving from one

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 5>house to the other. And at first I thought, oh,

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 5>I just dreamed that, but then I was talking to

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 5>my dad about it and describing the vehicle that I

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 5>saw and everything that was sticking out of it and

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 5>where we were, and he was like, yeah, you were

0:26:57.359 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 5>six months old and we were leaving the house we

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:02.600
<v Speaker 5>were living at the time to move to somewhere else.

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.399
<v Speaker 5>And I just needed to tell somebody who's not in

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 5>like my associated friend group or anything, because I usually

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:11.280
<v Speaker 5>get the same response from them, and it's just sort

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 5>of a shrug and I, Okay, cool, whatever that's just you, right,

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 5>But I'm like, I don't know what it is. Nobody

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 5>has the ability it seems to give me any kind

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 5>of answers whatsoever, you know. But all I know is

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 5>that it sort of colored my perception on what life

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 5>in existence is because it's like, Okay, what am I

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 5>really then? If that is in my brain, that is

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.679
<v Speaker 5>a system of memories I had, and I had no

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 5>access to drugs or anything at the time. But also,

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.399
<v Speaker 5>how is it that I can be understanding English and

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 5>understanding this is English when I possibly hadn't been born

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 5>into a society that even spoke the language in the

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 5>first place.

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.880
<v Speaker 1>You kind of sound like a white Kanye West.

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if I should be assaulted by that,

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 5>but that's pretty good.

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I am I I was too busy thinking

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of different jokes to make about you two. Really fully

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>understand everything that you were just saying to me. But

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>let me think here, let me think here. What's your

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>name again?

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 5>Severa.

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.199
<v Speaker 1>By the way, Saveria, you seem like a nice You

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 1>seem like a really nice guy. I mean that you

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>seem like a nice guy. You seem like a nice guy.

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I do mean that Holy Ship I'm so sorry. I

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 1>have I have I I I'm gonna tell you right now,

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:39.479
<v Speaker 1>I can't help you. I'm just gonna put that out there.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:46.959
<v Speaker 1>I can't help you. But uh ship, uh well you

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>saw it. Yeah, I mean this, You're you're the therapy gotto.

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 1>You're beyond me in this point and this is and

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.920
<v Speaker 1>this is probably this is Unfortunately the problem that you

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have with this is that you're gonna explain

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 1>and maybe people are going to be listening to this

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and they're going to be like, Lyle, you're just stupid

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>and you didn't you didn't actually listen to them, which

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>might be a little bit true. But maybe that's the problem,

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 1>is that everyone you go to to try to get

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:13.920
<v Speaker 1>make some sense of this is just like, I don't

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>know what the fuck you're talking about right now? Yeah,

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:24.320
<v Speaker 1>but uh yeah, I thought I'm gonna say it was okay.

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me, can I ask you some simple questions and

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>get some simple answers? Yeah, okay, everything you just talked

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 1>to me about, right?

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Is it good?

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay?

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Good?

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 5>The thing so, the experience itself was phenomenal. I guess

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 5>what I'm experiencing is I grew up in a very

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 5>I grew up in Texas, right, so a very like

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 5>Christian dominated place. And so for a while, that was

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.239
<v Speaker 5>my view of the universe, you know, being terrified at

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 5>all times that if I messed up or made a

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 5>mistake and didn't beg for forgiveness on my knees, that

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 5>I was going to go suffering for all each right.

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 5>And then as time went by and I got out

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 5>of that, suddenly it became more spiritualist, you know, like

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 5>a Eastern thing brought over to the West and Alan

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 5>wattson all that good stuff. And now it's sort of

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 5>like I don't know what to expect or what to

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 5>think on what life is or how it arranges itself.

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 5>But the only thing I know is I have been

0:30:19.880 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 5>told all of my life that it's this way or

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 5>it's that way. It's very frigid and very you know, but.

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>No, it's anything. That's anything, It's anything, yeah, exactly, all right,

0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>all right, so all right, so enough with this, enough

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>with all the bullshit stuff, all right, So tell me this.

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, I don't remember anyone's name. I'm gonna

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>call you Greg. Greg. Enough with this? What do you like?

0:30:44.440 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Tell me this? Okay, and let's get out of get

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 1>out of the esoteric nonsense for me for a second.

0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I promise I'm not saying that just to be dismissive.

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>This is this is a purpose. Reason I want you

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>to get out of the esoteric nonsense for a second

0:30:56.560 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>is because, Okay, you've come to all of this stuff,

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and you went and you saw dragons, you went to

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>ze thorough. You're there. Okay, So tell me now, Greg,

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 1>what in the physical universe are you going to do

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>with this information where you just discovered that life can

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>be however you desire it to be. What will you

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>do with this information?

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Greg?

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 1>That's what I want.

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 5>I am going to continue on my plan to move

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.160
<v Speaker 5>to Washington State so that I can open a gay

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 5>little cafe called The Place, so that people can have

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 5>a place they can go to twenty four hours a day,

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 5>six days a week to just sit down and relax.

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Love it. Love a gay little twenty four hour cafe.

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 5>Love it.

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Oh my god, I love It's hilarious

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.720
<v Speaker 1>how much science fiction stuff it took you to get

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 1>there to be like I should open up a cafe.

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad. I'm glad that sounds like that's a

0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>great goal. That's great.

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 4>I love it.

0:31:57.240 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>What are you gonna call it?

0:31:58.720 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 5>The place?

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>The yeah, the place, the place to play? I'm stupid,

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I I you said that, you're good? When when are

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you going to do this?

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 5>My last day where I work now is next Friday,

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 5>and then I'm moving back to my hometown to save

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 5>up money to hopefully in six months. I eat about

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 5>five thousand to move up there with a friend, so

0:32:20.200 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 5>six months at the most of the projection.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Very cool, all right? I love this, by the way,

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>I hold on. I know I was making fun of

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you this whole time, but I actually love this because

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.440
<v Speaker 1>it is like, because that's the thing, right is there

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>anyone can have a crazy spiritual experience. But for me,

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it's about like, okay, what in the real world, Like

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>do you come out of that with a significant plan

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.959
<v Speaker 1>of action for your day to day life? And you

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>have and you have a plan. So I'm stoked for you.

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 1>This is awesome, man, Thanks for sharing you.

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Like, to be honest, it's I'll hang up here

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 5>just a sec because I gotta a clock out. But

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 5>it's been really hard my own way, you know, just

0:32:58.000 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to get too much into it. It's

0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 5>just been really, really difficult, and for the first time

0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 5>in twenty five years, I'm at this point where I'm like, Oh,

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 5>it's okay for me to do the things that I

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 5>want to do just because I want to do them.

0:33:12.360 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love that. That's good and all. It took

0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:16.280
<v Speaker 1>a checkerboard.

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:21.280
<v Speaker 5>Yep, I'm right. Some people it's having a discussion with

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 5>somebody they respect, and other people it's I don't even

0:33:24.600 --> 0:33:25.239
<v Speaker 5>know what it is.

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Greg, Is there anything else you want to say to

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer before we go. I know

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 1>you got to go clock out. I want to give

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you a chance to talk beforehand.

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Actually, to anybody listening if you are in college

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 5>right now, as a maintenance worker, hygiene products and wipeies

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 5>do not go down the toilet. I know it says flushable,

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 5>but that's a technicality because a human body can hold

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 5>a knife. But that doesn't mean it's supposed to go there.

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 5>All that's going to happen is it's going to claw

0:33:55.720 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 5>your toilets, and your maintenance guys are going to have

0:33:57.560 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 5>to deal with it.

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.880
<v Speaker 1>You have just entered the top five of most specific

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 1>answers to that final question that I have heard.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 5>That is a wonderful top five to be a part

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 5>of that. I'm very happy about that.

0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Hey, take care, Greg, good luck, good luck. Hope to

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>visit the place one day next time I'm in Washington.

0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 5>I hope so too. And if if you're there, give you.

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 1>A discount, beautiful take care, man, tell you you doube bye.

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I love anything. I love a thing where I love

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 1>any call where my clarity you know, occurs on a spectrum,

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>right Because for there's a good amount of time talking

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>to that guy. I just had no idea what he

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.439
<v Speaker 1>was talking about, and followed by an amount of time

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>where I felt deeply connected to him and what he

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>was talking about. So that's that's a sign of a

0:34:49.920 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>good conversation.

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Yo u yo yo.

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>What it's good bro, Not much man, what's going on

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>with you?

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 3>Just at work right now? It's good with you. I

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 3>work for a health system and uh I like drive

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 3>around and like pick up blood samples. Uh sometimes body

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 3>parts uh stuff like that.

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah what what body parts?

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Like A lot of cancer patients that like get like

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 3>uh like the breast removed. Uh. So I picked up

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>like a lot of breast diabetics when they get their

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 3>legs cut off. I've like shoved uh like all this

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 3>stuff in the back of the prius and like, uh

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.919
<v Speaker 3>you know, uh yeah, it's that's pretty dope.

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're driving around in a prius with tits

0:35:56.520 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>and legs. Yeah, what do you do with that?

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Uh? I drop them off at a an unspecified

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 3>location and they run.

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Tests on them what kind of tests and.

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Then like you know, like diagnosis, like oh, like mainly

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.359
<v Speaker 3>they're just like samples of the breast and stuff. So

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 3>then like there's uh, these like histologists here like like

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.560
<v Speaker 3>look at it and be like, oh, yeah, well you

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 3>have like cancer or whatever. And then yeah, but like

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:36.520
<v Speaker 3>that's like way beyond me. I'm just the guy who,

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 3>uh who transports them in a prius.

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, Uh why you just jam them and you just

0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>have like a tit flopping around in the in the

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>trunk of your prius.

0:36:49.680 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, pretty much. They're they're all like in in

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 3>uh like containers and uh in biohazard bags and everything.

0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.439
<v Speaker 3>But I mean underneath like the bah, I just drive

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 3>around like tits swopping around in the back of the breeze.

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. See people will call see you know,

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.399
<v Speaker 1>some people they'll see you driving the Prius and they'll

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>be like, huh, that guy's laying but little do they

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.919
<v Speaker 1>know he has tits in his trunk.

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Exactly, bro exactly And like, you know, you'd never never

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 3>judge someone based off the priests And I'm gonna lie,

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 3>they're pretty dope. It's like driving a little go kart,

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 3>to be honest. I mean, they don't really go too fast,

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:35.160
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, you drive as well.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I drove a Prius in high school and uh, I

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 1>got into an accident. Oh yeah, I got into an

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>accident and I was like on the side of the

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>road and my Prius was like totaled and I was

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>just kind of standing there waiting for like vehicles to

0:37:52.000 --> 0:37:56.360
<v Speaker 1>come and this guy, uh drives past me and he

0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>yells out his window and he goes that's what you

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 1>get for driving a Prius.

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:08.319
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty fun that that is. That is hilarious. There's

0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people that treat you differently on the road,

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 3>especially for driving a Prius.

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>How So, in what way do you feel that people

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:18.920
<v Speaker 1>treat you differently?

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, just like the same thing that

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 3>you just described a little bit but like, I don't know,

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 3>there's there's a lot of like diesel trucks where I

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 3>where I am, and uh, like a lot of them

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.280
<v Speaker 3>will just like drive by and just blow like black

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.640
<v Speaker 3>smoke all over the car and ship, and you know,

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 3>and then like you know, people will just like swarve

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 3>in try to cut you off because they think that

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.359
<v Speaker 3>you're like I don't know, they think less of you

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 3>because you drive a Prius or something. But questions were

0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 3>you dressed, were you in were you like in a

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 3>costume when you totaled your prius? Because I can totally

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 3>see you, like in the Gecko costume, like standing on

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 3>the side of the highway.

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:00.879
<v Speaker 1>Why would I have been in the Gecko costume when

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I was when I was driving the Prius, I had

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>no idea that I would when I was when this

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I was. I was like seventeen when this happened. I

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 1>don't think I had no idea that I would be

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>in a Gecko costume eight years later.

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you had to do it back in time,

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 3>would you would you do it again but be in

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 3>a Gecko costume?

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.960
<v Speaker 1>No, definitively would say I would not.

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, have you ever worried about like what would happen

0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:33.359
<v Speaker 1>if you got into an accident and like all the

0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>all theos and legs fell out of your car.

0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was thinking about that because like I do

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:43.839
<v Speaker 3>think about that quite often, because like people don't really

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 3>stop around here, so like if I'm just sitting at

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 3>a red light, there's like people that come up like

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 3>super hot behind me and like all the all the

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 3>specimens and stuff like in the trunk. So like I

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>don't know this one time I was driving around and

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I like kind of just imagine getting rear ended with

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 3>a left leg like in my in my pass in

0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 3>like the trunk, and then it gets hit and it

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 3>goes like flying through the windshield. And then I could

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:14.759
<v Speaker 3>see that happening, and then you know what I mean,

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 3>and it just like makes this like huge dramatic thing

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 3>out of like nothing, because like I would be fine,

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.879
<v Speaker 3>but like there would just be a leg like in

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 3>the windshield.

0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could see that. That's like a final destination

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>type of death. I could see.

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely definitely.

0:40:36.960 --> 0:40:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Was always Was it always your dream to transport body

0:40:40.880 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>parts or was there something else that you wanted to do?

0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well kind of, I mean I've always kind of

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 3>wanted to work in healthcare, and then this kind of

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 3>just like happened upon me. So it kind of worked out,

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 3>and it was like a good way to get my

0:40:58.840 --> 0:40:59.480
<v Speaker 3>foot in the door.

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Here, get your foot in the door, and get some

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 1>other people's feet in your door too.

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 3>In the windshield, in the windshield, in the windshield.

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Is this considered work? I don't know, to demean your job?

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Is this considered working in healthcare?

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:24.319
<v Speaker 3>Technically yes, it's like it's considered non clinical, but it's

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 3>still like in the same environment. And uh, you know,

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.239
<v Speaker 3>I look at it in terms of networking like I

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, I have a lot of network connections and

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 3>stuff that I can make and have made and stuff

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 3>like that. So yeah, I can I do consider it. Now.

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious about this, and and this is the last

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>thing I'll ask you, and you don't have If it's

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 1>too sensitive of a subject, you don't have to answer it.

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 1>But have you ever been approached buy the mafia looking

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to intercept your vehicle to sell your tits on the

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>black market?

0:42:01.760 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 3>No? I haven't, But now that you point that out,

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna keep a good eye on that because I

0:42:08.360 --> 0:42:12.320
<v Speaker 3>never would have even thought about that gek. That's that's amazing. Sure,

0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 3>I hope that actually, I actually hope that does happen.

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 3>That'd be kind of cool. I would get in like

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 3>a high speed chase, like they would obviously have like

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 3>faster cars than me, but you know, I can just

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 3>whip the go cart like it'd be pretty cool.

0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I don't think a Prius is the

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>first choice for a police chase.

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't be the police would be in the mafia.

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, the mafia. Well, I know you could. You

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>could throw That would be a good scene because you

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 1>could take a leg and like throw it from behind

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>them and it would like go into the windshield and

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>they'd crash and the car would explode.

0:42:51.120 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 3>That would be awesome. That'd be that'd be pretty sweet.

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.239
<v Speaker 3>And then I could take like little blood vials and

0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 3>just throw them out the window like your names.

0:42:58.960 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 1>Right, Like it's like oil that they're that they're they're

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:02.600
<v Speaker 1>slipping and sliding.

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:04.320
<v Speaker 3>On they're slipping and sliding.

0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 1>This is it's just like Mario Kart that we're doing.

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 1>That we're doing exceptance with human body parts and blood.

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:11.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like Mario Kart, but gross.

0:43:13.880 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 3>The graphic Mario Kart the leg would be the blueeshell.

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>What's your name again, sir?

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Uh, my name is uh Ladder.

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>That's not your real name, right, No, that is my

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>real name. Okay you Okay. He's sounded like he just

0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>looked and saw a ladder and picked that as your

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>fake name.

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 3>L E d R No, l A d d e R.

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 1>That's cool. What kind of name is that?

0:43:47.120 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Honestly, I think my parents are tripping

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 3>when they named me or something. But you know, it

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:54.760
<v Speaker 3>is kind of cool because I can kind of stretch

0:43:54.800 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 3>my arms out like mister Elastic a little bit whenever

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 3>someone needs a ladder. It was a true gift from

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:03.280
<v Speaker 3>the universe.

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>You're a cool guy, Ladder always always? Is there anything else?

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Keep watching the stream and if you ever want to

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:21.960
<v Speaker 3>talk to Gek himself, you just got to blow up

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 3>the text message line. Anyways, have a good one, gak.

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 1>A youtwo Ladder. Take care by get those body parts

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to their final destination safely.

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Hello.

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:40.959
<v Speaker 1>Hi, what's your name?

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 4>My name is Juniper?

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Juniper. What's up, Juniper? Have we ever spoken before? Juniper?

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:49.959
<v Speaker 4>This is actually my.

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>First time cool. I feel like I spoke to a Juniper.

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of people. Do you ever go

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:59.480
<v Speaker 1>about June, Junie? Juniper? What's up?

0:44:59.480 --> 0:44:59.880
<v Speaker 3>How at?

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>How can I get you today? Juniper?

0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:08.080
<v Speaker 4>Okay, so am I then asshole for sending money for

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.719
<v Speaker 4>my ex boyfriend's favorite streamer to cuss him out?

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 1>You sent money to your ex boyfriend's favorite streamer to

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:15.439
<v Speaker 1>cuss him out?

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 4>Yes, was just that psychotic who's.

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Your ex boyfriend's favorite streamer?

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 4>I honestly don't even remember, but it was like a

0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:29.240
<v Speaker 4>like not even a really popular one.

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>How long ago is this?

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 4>I want to say about like a year ago?

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, why did you do it?

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 4>Because he was kind of a gas lighting piece of

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 4>shit speed my language. He would like, I smoke weed,

0:45:50.080 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 4>so like he would call me a druggie and he

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 4>would say, like I also have ADHD and he would

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:59.560
<v Speaker 4>say that that doesn't exist. That's all in your head,

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:04.319
<v Speaker 4>all this all this personal nasty uh crap about me

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 4>and that uh that I would like never amount to

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.279
<v Speaker 4>anything pretty much just because I smoked wheat and that

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:11.600
<v Speaker 4>I am an addict.

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 1>How long? How long were you dating this guy for?

0:46:13.840 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 4>About two years.

0:46:15.640 --> 0:46:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Was he like that the whole time?

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 4>Not in the beginning. We had an argument about having

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:27.200
<v Speaker 4>ships one time and pretty much yeah, no, he was

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 4>just like, no, I gotta besectomy. I don't want that ship.

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, well, you couldn't tell me that

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.280
<v Speaker 4>in the beginning type thing.

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>When you said you paid his favorite streamer to custom out,

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.000
<v Speaker 1>what did you What did you exactly pay him to say?

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 4>I told him to call him basically a piece of

0:46:47.800 --> 0:46:48.799
<v Speaker 4>narcissistic ship.

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:53.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, And when he did, how did that? How did

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that feel for you?

0:46:56.000 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 4>The streamer didn't do it, he was funded my money.

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 4>But I had a good chuckle that you even mentioned it.

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you an asshole? I don't like? I don't like.

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Am I the asshole? I don't. I'm not a I'm

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 1>not god. But uh, I guess I'll ask you this.

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>So this was a year ago, right, yes? Is there

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 1>any reason other than just like, oh, this would be

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a fun thing to talk about on here that this

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>is like bubbling in your brain?

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 4>Not exactly. I just needed an unbiased opinion about it,

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 4>because like I told my friends about it, and they

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:38.759
<v Speaker 4>were just like they were just telling me, Oh, You're

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.680
<v Speaker 4>just toxic. You're being toxic, and I'm just like you

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 4>just mentally gas lit me. So how am I the

0:47:44.160 --> 0:47:45.360
<v Speaker 4>toxic one?

0:47:45.640 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's forget about like toxic for a second. It's

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 1>like like looking at it from an expenditure of energy standpoint, right,

0:47:56.400 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>like paying this guy to cuss out. But like, okay,

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>if it's like if this guy, you know, hurt you

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>by calling you all these things and you want to

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>you just and it's just like a fucking life suck

0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>for you, and you want to minimize the collateral damage

0:48:23.280 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 1>that you receive from this life sucking.

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:28.279
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm.

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>The expenditure of energy at of paying his the streamer

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to cuss him out, in my opinion, does not contribute

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 1>to that goal, And that's more important to me than

0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>whether or not you're an asshole or toxic. Does that

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:50.760
<v Speaker 1>make sense?

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah a little bit?

0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So oh go ahead, No, you go ahead.

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:59.799
<v Speaker 4>I think I think at the time I was up

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 4>that and bitter because I basically wasted like two years

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 4>on this guy, like I've spent. He was unemployed for

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:10.720
<v Speaker 4>the longest time, so I would be paying his bills,

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 4>I would be you know, basically giving him the toilet

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 4>paper to wipe his shit off. So like, yeah, I

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, smoke weed a little bit, but so what

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 4>so he had to like throw that back in my face.

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:25.600
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Maybe it was just at the time,

0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:29.840
<v Speaker 4>I just wanted to get even. But now that I

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:31.759
<v Speaker 4>think about it, as you put it in a little

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:34.320
<v Speaker 4>bit perspective, it was kind of like a waste of energy.

0:49:34.360 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 4>But I don't.

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Regret it, right, And there's no need to regret it,

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>because regretting it is is like I mean, you can

0:49:40.600 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>like learn from it and be like, all right, in

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:46.720
<v Speaker 1>the future, I will I will recognize what certain things

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:52.879
<v Speaker 1>might be poor expenditures of energy, which is, by the way,

0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:57.799
<v Speaker 1>tough because sometimes sometimes you want to feel like vindicated,

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's an emotional like it's an emotional decision, right,

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, sometimes and that's that's that's just that's just

0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>something you never learn. I'm not gonna say it's something

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:17.080
<v Speaker 1>you never learned, but like how to not make emotional

0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:21.800
<v Speaker 1>decisions because you realize logically that they're poor expenditures of energy,

0:50:21.840 --> 0:50:23.720
<v Speaker 1>but just in the moment they just feel so good.

0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:29.719
<v Speaker 1>It takes you about I don't know, it's a hard

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 1>lesson to learn, you know it. Really you have to

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 1>be like a fucking Buddhist monk to master that.

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:40.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know, I can't be a Buddhist monk.

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you probably couldn't smoke weed if you smoked it,

0:50:43.719 --> 0:50:45.839
<v Speaker 1>if you were a Buddhist monk. Unless if No, those

0:50:45.840 --> 0:50:46.719
<v Speaker 1>guys don't smoke weed.

0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:47.080
<v Speaker 2>They didn't.

0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:48.200
<v Speaker 1>They definitely don't smoke weed.

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't think so. I work in like the cannabis field,

0:50:53.600 --> 0:50:57.720
<v Speaker 4>so like him, like basically saying like that was basically saying,

0:50:57.760 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh my my career so far was basically a waste

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<v Speaker 4>of my time. And I picked pride in my worst ethic.

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<v Speaker 4>So to say that kind of like just disrespecting me.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess. So I just wanted to disrespect him back.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, men suck sometimes not all.

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<v Speaker 1>But some how's your life going now?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly?

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<v Speaker 4>I just got a promotion and he apparently is on

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<v Speaker 4>welfare and apparently homeless.

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<v Speaker 1>How'd you hear that?

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<v Speaker 4>Just through the grape vine. I mean, I'm taking it

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<v Speaker 4>with a grain or like a grain of salt, But

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<v Speaker 4>from how I know how he is, I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 4>surprised because I know he was going to court because

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<v Speaker 4>his apartment building. Was trying to a victim.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you are you dating anyone new now or are

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<v Speaker 1>you chilling chilling single for now?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't feel it like right now, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 4>am in a point in my life where I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't want to talk anybody. I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to like figure myself out. I feel like it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>do justice for me and other people.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you sound like you're doing great.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>You do. You sound like you're doing great. That's you you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a very confident, mentally healthy status report that

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<v Speaker 1>you gave.

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<v Speaker 4>I try to be you know you just you take

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<v Speaker 4>one day at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't remember this streamer, No.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately I don't. Well I would have to go back

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<v Speaker 4>on Twitch to look for Amazon or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'll say this, while I do think it's an

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<v Speaker 1>it is a waste of energy to, you know, pay

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<v Speaker 1>a streamer to cuss out your boyfriend. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to give me fifty dollars, I will cuss out anyone

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<v Speaker 1>you want. Really.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually literally just found your stream this morning. I found

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<v Speaker 4>your Instagram and I was like, oh, I gotta I

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<v Speaker 4>gotta subscribe or please follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, yeah, well, what's your name again, Juniper? Jennifer Jennifer.

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<v Speaker 1>Is anything else you want to say to the people

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<v Speaker 1>of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I want to leave in a healing air, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna say anything bad. And I just want

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<v Speaker 4>to say thank you for letting me invent about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely have aggress to the night.

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<v Speaker 4>Juniper, Thank you, have a good one. Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>This was fifty too low or too high? Here's the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>me cussing out somebody is now is worth zero dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh all right, how about this? You can pay

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<v Speaker 1>me a dollar and I'll compliment someone or maybe should

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<v Speaker 1>I should? Should I make the insults higher price or

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<v Speaker 1>the compliments higher priced? I like the idea. Actually, this

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting. I like the idea of cameo. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>to send mean, horrible messages to people Like cameo. But

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<v Speaker 1>you can pay John Taffer to call your boyfriend a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of shit? Someone should make that That's a good idea. Hello, folks,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm honestly traumatized.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you trying to in my mouth?

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<v Speaker 6>Dog peed in my mouth?

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me more about that.

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<v Speaker 6>So I work at an animal daycare place and a

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<v Speaker 6>new dog came.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to pick them up.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm six four, I'm a little tall, and I picked

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<v Speaker 6>him up. You just sprayed it right down the back

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<v Speaker 6>of my throat. Tasted at all? It was awful.

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<v Speaker 2>It was awful.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you still remember what it tastes like?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's uh, you know those uh, those chocolate oranges.

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<v Speaker 6>I usually get him on Christmas. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 6>anyone else does, but a little bit that orange chocolate

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<v Speaker 6>and pennies like coins. Yeah, make sure of that. Not

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<v Speaker 6>too great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's weird because you kind of like did you

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<v Speaker 1>open your mouth, like where you like where you were.

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<v Speaker 1>You surprised, You were like, oh what a dolt, what

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<v Speaker 1>a cool dog? And you just had your mouth open.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like an open mouth smile because I was,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I was excited. It's a little puppy, and

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<v Speaker 6>I guess he was a little more excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing else to say.

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<v Speaker 3>Really goes on the line making your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 1>Therapy can goes to a side's teaching you aloud in.

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<v Speaker 2>Them of your life.

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