WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Landing Lance 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.480 The following He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:11.400 Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:16.560 Cowboys. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:22.760 This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training. 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.880 Came in Oxnard, Calos Stretch. 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.000 Six seconds dot. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:35.960 Pitton touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.680 John Mashoda and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.760 For the first time in twenty twenty three. Even though 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:48.879 it might be a preseason it's for the first victory 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.919 Monday of twenty twenty three. Everybody, I was like, well, 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:54.840 I gotta win. How about that is? It's uh yeah, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:57.520 it's not as exciting. I guess it's a regular victory Monday. 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:01.920 But welcome in nonetheless to a Victory Monday of Talking Cowboys, 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.960 presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.959 the Dallas Cowboys. Alongside Isaiah Stanbach, Nick Harris, John Matchoda, 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.600 I'm Kyle Yeomens with Chris Beam of course running everything 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.279 in the back here. 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.640 It is, here's the music of the Dallas Beatings. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.080 On top of it, the Cowboys get to win thirty 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.880 one sixteen on Saturday night against the Las Vegas Raiders 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.040 in front of Tom Brady and Company, who was of 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.760 course in the ownership group with the Raiders. Tom Brady 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:33.520 said ruin their night to his quarterbacks before walking out 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.240 of the tunnel, and instead Will Greer. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.520 Goes and ruins the Raiders night. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.880 Had really his best career performance, even though it might 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:43.080 have been in a preseason action. 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:44.720 We're gonna get into Will Greer. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:47.720 We'll get into the reason why Will Greer is a 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:49.720 talking point at this point in time, But I want 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.400 to start with the thoughts around the game, John, what 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.040 did you think about the Cowboys in the way that 0:01:54.040 --> 0:01:56.400 they fared in that final preseason matchup. 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.680 I mean, obviously Will Greer looked great. He had a 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.680 lot of motivation, so it's not a huge surprise that 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.720 he played well. That would probably be my biggest takeaway. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:10.280 Second is probably it was entertaining to see Dak Prescott 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:13.240 call plays. Just to see him on the sideline doing that, 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.160 seemed like he was probably more into the game than 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.280 he would have been if he wasn't doing that. And 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.640 then I'd say probably Hunter Lipke that would probably be 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:24.239 the other big one. But we knew going in that 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.280 Lipke and Greer were going to play a ton, so 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.919 it's tough to balance, like, Okay, how much does this mean? 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.240 Like for example, like Dak you know, calling the plays 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:34.720 having success with it, You're kind of sitting there and 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.880 you're like, oh, yeah, Like there's a lot of people 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.520 that probably like, oh, he could probably do this on Sundays. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.359 And he was quick to say after the game like, no, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.799 I mean they were running three coverages. This wasn't like 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:44.720 a regular season game or anything like that, but it 0:02:44.840 --> 0:02:46.600 still made it a lot more entertaining for a game 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.120 where you knew the starters weren't going to play. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.840 Yeah, you really kind of got to see that was 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.240 just pure Will greer Nick. I mean the fact that 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.880 the emotion was high. Of course, the Cowboys trading a 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:01.440 fourth round pick for dre Trey Lance on Friday, and 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.639 that was really the talking point. We'll dive into Trey 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:05.760 Lance in a couple moments, but I mean you could 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.800 see the emotions even after the game. You were right 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.480 in the middle of it in the postgame press conference 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.760 or postgame open locker room, and he was about as 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.560 emotional as you could get following a. 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:16.679 Performance like that. Yeah. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.160 Absolutely, I'll say the performance reminded me of when he 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.680 was a senior at was Virginia walking into Austin, Texas 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:23.840 and coming back down I believe it was seventeen and 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.280 winning that game and scoring the winning two point conversion 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.480 and just going horns down. But no, it was really 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.079 fun to see Will Beck in his elite form, and 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:36.240 he was so good on Saturday on Saturday night, and 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.280 I was kind of watching the highlights back last night. Man, 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.480 there's a fit for him in this league somewhere, and 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:42.400 I think he could be a really good backup somewhere. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.280 But talking about the emotion, he was very emotional because 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.160 he had gotten a lot really close with these guys, 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.000 Dak Prescott, he had mentioned, you know, by name of course, 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.120 Cooper Rush. That entire quarterback room was really close knit 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.760 and while they were competitive, they were brothers with each other. 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.280 And so you could see the emotion in Will just 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.960 having to walk away from those guys, which is tough. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.800 But you know, I'm really excited to see where he 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.600 lands this week, because I know he'll land somewhere. 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:09.760 I'm looking up on the screen and I'm seeing Dak 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.120 Prescott being interviewed postgame, and Nick Harris is in the 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:13.720 corner of that. 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:15.840 Shot as well. On NFL picture of that earlier. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.760 What were your takeaways from from Saturdays when Isaiah a great, 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:22.800 great job again by the way in the booth, got 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:23.599 a chance to look at it. 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.800 Oh yeah, there you go. It's very nice. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.760 I gotta be better about my facial expression. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.159 I got to smile a little bit. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.800 Gonna take it till you make it. No thanks, K why? 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:37.160 But I was just happy and proud of Will gear 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.400 Because people forget. 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:42.400 People forget really quickly in this industry. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.520 And Will Greer was in competition, in real competition, and 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.839 was actually leading the competition to be the backup quarterback 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.440 for the Dallas Cowboys just a year ago, and had 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.640 it not been for his injury, he probably would have 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.520 beat out Cooper Rush last preseason. It didn't work out 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:01.279 that way, right, And the league is the league, and 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.080 things happen the way they happened. But what you saw 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.799 on Saturday night is what he's fully capable of. Nobody 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.880 questions whether or not Will Greer is smart enough. Nobody 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.240 questions whether or not Will Grear has the attributes in 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.000 terms of ability to run or the ability to throw. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:19.000 Nobody has those questions. 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.920 All the questions regarding Will Greer was always his decision making, always, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:26.159 and that is fully in his power to be able 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:28.239 to correct at any point in time in his life. 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.240 And he corrected that on Saturday night. He made the 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:33.599 right choices, He made the right decisions. He took the 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:35.800 easy plays, he took the dump downs, he took the 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.599 flat routes. He allowed his guys to go out there 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.359 and make plays for him, and because of that, his 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.039 stat line was absolutely insane. His ability to use his legs, 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.719 guess what, that's what he does. That's natural for him. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.800 Throwing on the run, getting out the pocket, bootlegs, those 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.039 things are all things that are he's capable of doing 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.880 every single time he touches the field. He just made 0:05:55.880 --> 0:06:00.760 the right decisions. So it's kind of it's awesome for 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:02.880 him that he did that on that platform, but it 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:06.960 sucks because if he had he done this before, he 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:07.920 wouldn't be in this position. 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:09.520 See I kind of make the argument that he didn't 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.640 even have and he's saying it at all. Yeah, I 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.240 really honestly don't think it mattered about training again the preseason. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:16.520 The only chance he was gonna have to like make 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:18.200 a meaningful impact on this team was to be the 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:19.800 backup and the only way that was happening was un 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:21.320 an injury. And the only reason I say that is 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:24.120 because he's not replacing Dak And I'm sorry. There's just 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.360 nothing you're gonna do with Oxnard. There's nothing you're gonna 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:29.080 do in these preseason games that are gonna make me go, yeah, 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:30.600 let's get rid of the guy that's five and one 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.760 as a starter stepping in a backup situation. That's the 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.720 thing about Cooper Rush, Like, yeah, he doesn't wow you 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.479 with a lot of things, but to go five and 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.240 one as a starter and it's not like any of 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:40.800 those where like he had a lot, like a big 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.400 heads up like hawming it about to be the starter. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:44.520 And it wasn't like he just beat all bad teams. 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:46.520 I mean there were some good teams, the Bengals, the 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.880 Rams before everybody got hurt two years ago against Minnesota. 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:51.520 Like you're not gonna sit there and go away from 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.560 that just because you're just like, yeah, you know. 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.240 We could have a stronger arm. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.240 Yeah we could have a guy that's a little bit no, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.920 that is exactly what you want in a backup quarterback. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.440 The other thing, and is obviously we'll get into the 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.160 addition on their team. The other problem that for Will 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:08.440 Grear is his age, because he's twenty eight, Cooper Rush 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:10.559 is twenty nine, about to be thirty, and Dak is thirty. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.480 And when you are all in that clump, like if 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.720 Will Greer is twenty two twenty three, well, first of all, 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:17.200 they're not making the trade that we're going to talk about. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:18.480 And second of all, he's still going to be on 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.600 this team. But it's because they're all in kind of 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.640 that same clump together. But I mean to your guy's point, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.760 and there's no question that he can play in this league. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.880 It just he kind of got in a tough spot where, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.640 let's be honest, like two years ago, we never thought 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:32.640 Cooper Rush would get into games and play as well 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:34.920 as he has. If you just go off of preseason 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:38.120 and training camp practices, you never would have been like, 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.440 oh yeah, no, I could tell yeah. I remember third 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:42.560 practice in ads, Rush looked like he was ready. You 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.960 never saw that. You never saw it. And in a way, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:46.440 it's kind of like Dak too, like there were a 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.840 tone of those pricees with Jamil Showers. You never were like, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:51.360 oh no, no, this guy Kelmore is gonna get hurt 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.960 and he'll take Tony's job. Like nobody was saying that 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.320 at the time. What happens in the games, to me, 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.240 it just is matters so much more. 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.320 So with that being said, you talked about how Will 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.480 Greer had little to no say over the quarterback depth chart. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.920 If he plays like he did on Saturday in the 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.800 preseason the first two games against Seattle and against Jacksonville 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.160 in Week one, do they make the trade for Trey Lance? 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.600 Do they even go out and make it? Or was 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.240 the value too good. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.360 There for the Cowboys and a fourth round pick, a 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:27.080 former top top three overall selection in the NFL draft 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:28.080 back in twenty twenty one. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.800 Was the value too good there to pass up? Period? 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.880 No matter how your backup quarterbacks played, I. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.320 Would say the majority of people would say they don't 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.360 make the trade. They stick with him if that happened, sure, 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.800 but the majority of people don't matter. The only person 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.880 that matters at end of day is Jerry Jones and 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.640 the fact that Trey Lance was a third overall pick, 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.080 that they had a high second round grade on him 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.120 and looked at him as a potential future starter in 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.360 the NFL. I just think that that was like just 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.800 too much of a like a thing that Jerry was 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.360 not going to pass up on when he said certain 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:00.160 talks before that game about how we just didn't want 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.240 to hang up the phone. Well, when Jerry is committed 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:03.160 to like that, he's not going to. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:04.240 Lose out on a deal. 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.439 And so I think trey Lan's becoming available is the 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.480 key part in that too, because again, if that doesn't happen, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.960 Will Greer is clearly still here. He's not going anywhere. 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.560 But because he became available and Jerry fell in love 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.600 with that. Really, at the end of the day, it's 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:19.040 only about what he thought. You know, you could have 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.040 a bunch of the scouts telling him like, no, I 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:22.920 think there's still some upside here with Greer, but if 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.280 Jerry wants to do it, Jerry's. 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:24.360 Going to do it. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.960 And Jerry was talking about it pregame and he said 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.560 that he had been wanting to get a developmental quarterback 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.160 and with Dak Prescott and at least for the last 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:33.880 three years, he had talked about wanting to go get 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:36.920 Jalen Hurts. It looked like he wanted to use the 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:38.960 third round pick on him, but he got picked I 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:40.800 believe two or three spots after Trayvon Digs. 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:41.480 So that didn't work out. 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.240 So when Jerry said that too, by the way, yeah 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.400 that's like third fourth round. That's not like that's not like, 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.839 oh we were right there. It sounds good as a story, yep, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.320 especially right now because Jalen Hurts is far exceeded what 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.000 you thought he was going to be. But the Cowboys 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:54.760 have shown you that they were not taking second round 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.520 quarterbacks and they certainly weren't going to take him over 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.440 Trayvon Diggs. So when they say that, it's all so like, 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:02.520 you know, Dak could have win in the second round 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.000 and been like, well, were you like Dak too? 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:05.640 You like Dak in the fourth round? 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:07.960 Like it was not where it's not like it's real close, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:09.640 like oh, they got our guy right before us or 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:11.360 something like that, like how you can make the case 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:12.760 for when they tried to trade up get Text and 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:15.840 Lyunch when they they wanted Connor Cook. You know, so 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.960 so those are that's a little bit closer. But I 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:20.040 just think that him and he wouldn't say Jalen hears 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.720 his name. He just kept saying Philadelphia quarterback. 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.880 Yeah, I'm just kind of like I just where that 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:24.520 team was at. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.640 They were not taking him anywhere in the second round, 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.920 maybe third maybe, but I find it very hard to 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.640 believe that they were going to take him anywhere close 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.439 to her Phillip, because I remember when it happened. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.200 It was a surprise that Philly took him there. Like 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:36.199 it like Jalen Hurd. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:38.360 Certainly everyone thought was gonna be an NFL quarterback, but 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:39.640 not to the level that he's become. 0:10:39.840 --> 0:10:41.600 You know, No, he was a winner. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.439 It was kind of it was very similar to Dak 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.360 Prescott won a lot of the sec was was it 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:50.120 a program where he was really the leader, the unquestioned leader, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:50.480 and then. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.600 Took a seat at Oklahoma where he were like, oh wow, 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:53.800 he went back to the big twelve. 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:54.560 Yeah, exactly. 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.760 So I think there's there's levels to it with this 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.800 Trey Lance deal because it's not only just a backup quarterback. 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.640 If you're looking at trading a fourth round pick for 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.640 Trey Lance because it's for a backup quarterback. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.360 You're not looking at this situation the right way at all. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:10.559 You're looking at it as. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:15.320 Okay, developmental potential starter in the league, high value potential 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.120 comp pick coming if he doesn't necessarily play a whole 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.480 lot here, but he signs elsewhere as a number three 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.920 overall pick, that's a very high probability even three or 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.040 four years down the line. If he signs elsewhere, plays 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.760 a significant amount of snaps, then all of a sudden, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:29.240 that fourth round pick comes right back. 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.080 To you in the form of a compensatory pick. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:34.600 There are levels to this, but also negotiation in there 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.840 too with Dak Prescott as contract questions come up here 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:40.880 in the next couple of months, or really once the 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.960 season comes to a close. Isaiah, From an x's and 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.800 o's standpoint, though, what do you like about the trade 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.800 made for Trey Lance and what the Cowboys did by 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.079 going out and getting a guy that not only was 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.120 highly touted enough to go number three overall in the draft, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.760 but also somebody that's young enough to grow and to 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:00.800 learn underneath, a guy like Dak Prescott. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.360 I think it's a great pickup for them from a 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:05.960 number of standpoints, not only number one. You look at 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:07.839 age or we just we just touched on that a 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:11.320 little bit. He's a young, young quarterback that doesn't have 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.319 a lot of experience. I mean he has, you know, 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.960 obviously one year before coming into the league. Really and 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.600 then a couple of years in the league so where 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.280 he really didn't touch the field. So you talk about 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.080 somebody who's raw, who's still moltible, you don't really have 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.880 to tear down a bunch of bad habits. I think 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.679 that's a great situation to be in for the Cowboys. Obviously, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:33.480 he comes into a situation with coach McCarthy where he 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.640 knows how to take care of quarterbacks and develop quarterbacks. 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.079 You put him in a room where he's now doesn't 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.240 have the pressure in the expectation of being a starter, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.240 and he gets to be behind somebody who approaches the 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.800 game the way as Dak does. And also he fits 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.000 the mold of what you're doing offensively right now. I mean, 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:52.640 the reality is Cooper Rush is a sure thing and 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.960 he's a safe thing, but he doesn't his style of 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.600 play doesn't fit what they like to do right now. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.760 You have to change your offence if Cooper Rush comes 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:03.959 into the game. There's things that you just can't do 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.040 any team I don't care. I mean, regardless of how 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.800 good you know your backup quarterback might be, you would 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.960 prefer to have your backup be able to execute and 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.040 play the same style of ball as your starter does, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:17.719 and that's what Trey Lance possesses those same attributes as 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.160 a DAK Prescott, if not more in terms of athletic ability. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.000 So those are all positive things. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.800 And then obviously the things that Kyle's kind of alluded to, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.360 they just got out of it at a situation with 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.040 Zach Martin where they didn't have any leverage. Yep, they 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:35.959 had zero leverage. Da Martin was like, go ahead, let 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.640 the guys play. You know, the guys that are behind 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:41.959 the starters, they're not even in the same hemisphere as me. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.160 Right, you don't. As an organization. 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.920 You want to make sure not only that you fortify 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.960 your room all the things that we're hearing from ownership. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:51.959 You want to fortify your room, have a solid QB room. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.800 There's not enough qbs to go around in this league. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.920 There's high value. We get it also on a business end, 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.679 when it comes time to sit down and have conversations 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:00.000 with DAK. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:01.040 As smooth as. 0:14:00.960 --> 0:14:03.760 Everybody would like it to go, it may not go 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:05.400 as smooth as they'd like it to go, and they 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.640 need some kind of leverage as well on their end 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.920 to say, well, if you want to play this way, 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.440 then we still have this that has developed into whatever 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.120 they're expecting him to be Trey Lance, that is at 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:17.080 that given point in time. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:18.400 So number of. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.240 Things, but I think it's a great pick. If you're 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.640 going to spend you spend everybody's up here complaining about it. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.360 You spend a fourth round pick on Dak Prescott, nobody's complaining. 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:27.800 You just spend a fourth round pick on Trey Lance. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:29.800 I don't understand what the conversation is. 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.000 The only thing on the leverage thing for me is 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.280 that I do think they'll get a new deal done 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.600 with Dak between now and whatever six months from now, 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.120 and so I don't think Trey Lance is going to 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.200 be able to do much on the field to make 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.960 you think that he's anything more than the guy that 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:51.480 couldn't beat out Rock Purdy and couldn't beat out Sam Darnold. 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:54.080 So I don't know that there's much leverage between now 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.360 and when that happens. I mean, so Jerry's quote on 0:14:56.400 --> 0:15:00.640 this was candidly, I don't want to plan on, count on, 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.840 or wish for help from him this year. So if 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.680 you're not getting a help from him this year, so 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.320 the only way I would see that it would be 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.840 you know, substantial leverage would be is if Dak got 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.560 hurt and let's say Cooper Rush stepped in and they 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.080 were just like it just kind of there was nothing 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.040 there and it just was kind of which, to be 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:18.920 honest with you, I think that Cooper Rushes in even 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.400 a better situation now than when he stepped in before, 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.040 just because the way he plays just don't turn the 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.320 ball over, just be safe, plays right into what this 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.040 Dallas defense has, you know what I mean, look at 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.560 the only game out of those when he's gone five 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.320 when to start, the only lost is the one when 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.480 he threw the three picks against Philadelphia, and how close 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:35.800 that game ended up being in the end. If he 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:37.280 just takes care of the ball, who knows, maybe they 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.200 win that game too. Maybe he's you know, six and 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.640 Oz is a starter. So but let's just say hypothetically, 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.400 if something like that was to happen and then Lance 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.080 gets in and you're just like, whoa, Like, this kid's 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:47.720 got it. He just didn't get the chance, you. 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:49.080 Know, clicks for him, right. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.200 But the other issue you run into even there is 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.560 like he's got his own injury history, you know, where 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.360 he also has to stay healthy because that's the other 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.680 part of it. You know, you see a lot after 0:15:57.720 --> 0:15:59.920 the trade happened, was about let's just get some package 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:01.680 is where he can just run and do some stuff 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.480 like that, Like, well, do you really want to stunt 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.000 his growth as you're trying to make him into a quarterback. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.880 You don't really want him to be oh, what's his name? 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.280 The bell Dozer package at Oklahomaah, you know what I'm saying, 0:16:13.320 --> 0:16:13.920 Like this is like. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.120 Belle right, former Dallas Cowboys Tied. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:17.680 In Chiefs Cowboys back. 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:20.480 Yeah, Like, you don't really want to do that with 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.760 with Trey Lance. You have visions of him having the 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:24.600 ability to be a starter in the NFL, and if 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.040 it's not for your team, you want him to be there, because, 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.520 let's be honest, if you have a quarterback that show 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.680 starter trades, there's always gonna be a value for that player. 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:33.040 Yeah. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.160 And I like what you said, Isaiah about him not 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.480 having the pressure anymore coming in as a number three 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.520 overall pick. You have pressure from the moment you walk 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.920 on that stage and shake Roger Condell's hand and being 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.640 able to just take that away, that pressure off his 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.720 shoulders and be like, hey, we're going to give you 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.320 these two three years to figure this out, and I 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:53.280