1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: The following He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training. 5 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: Came in Oxnard, Calos Stretch. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: Six seconds dot. 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 3: Pitton touchdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, 8 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: John Mashoda and Kyle Yeomans. 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: For the first time in twenty twenty three. Even though 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: it might be a preseason it's for the first victory 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: Monday of twenty twenty three. Everybody, I was like, well, 12 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: I gotta win. How about that is? It's uh yeah, 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: it's not as exciting. I guess it's a regular victory Monday. 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: But welcome in nonetheless to a Victory Monday of Talking Cowboys, 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 2: presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. Alongside Isaiah Stanbach, Nick Harris, John Matchoda, 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeomens with Chris Beam of course running everything 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 2: in the back here. 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: It is, here's the music of the Dallas Beatings. 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: On top of it, the Cowboys get to win thirty 21 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: one sixteen on Saturday night against the Las Vegas Raiders 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: in front of Tom Brady and Company, who was of 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: course in the ownership group with the Raiders. Tom Brady 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: said ruin their night to his quarterbacks before walking out 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: of the tunnel, and instead Will Greer. 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: Goes and ruins the Raiders night. 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: Had really his best career performance, even though it might 28 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: have been in a preseason action. 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: We're gonna get into Will Greer. 30 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: We'll get into the reason why Will Greer is a 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: talking point at this point in time, But I want 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: to start with the thoughts around the game, John, what 33 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: did you think about the Cowboys in the way that 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: they fared in that final preseason matchup. 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 5: I mean, obviously Will Greer looked great. He had a 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: lot of motivation, so it's not a huge surprise that 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 5: he played well. That would probably be my biggest takeaway. 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 5: Second is probably it was entertaining to see Dak Prescott 39 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 5: call plays. Just to see him on the sideline doing that, 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: seemed like he was probably more into the game than 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 5: he would have been if he wasn't doing that. And 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 5: then I'd say probably Hunter Lipke that would probably be 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 5: the other big one. But we knew going in that 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 5: Lipke and Greer were going to play a ton, so 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 5: it's tough to balance, like, Okay, how much does this mean? 46 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 5: Like for example, like Dak you know, calling the plays 47 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 5: having success with it, You're kind of sitting there and 48 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 5: you're like, oh, yeah, Like there's a lot of people 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 5: that probably like, oh, he could probably do this on Sundays. 50 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 5: And he was quick to say after the game like, no, 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 5: I mean they were running three coverages. This wasn't like 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 5: a regular season game or anything like that, but it 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: still made it a lot more entertaining for a game 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 5: where you knew the starters weren't going to play. 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you really kind of got to see that was 56 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: just pure Will greer Nick. I mean the fact that 57 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: the emotion was high. Of course, the Cowboys trading a 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: fourth round pick for dre Trey Lance on Friday, and 59 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: that was really the talking point. We'll dive into Trey 60 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: Lance in a couple moments, but I mean you could 61 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: see the emotions even after the game. You were right 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: in the middle of it in the postgame press conference 63 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: or postgame open locker room, and he was about as 64 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: emotional as you could get following a. 65 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 4: Performance like that. Yeah. 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely, I'll say the performance reminded me of when he 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 6: was a senior at was Virginia walking into Austin, Texas 68 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 6: and coming back down I believe it was seventeen and 69 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 6: winning that game and scoring the winning two point conversion 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 6: and just going horns down. But no, it was really 71 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 6: fun to see Will Beck in his elite form, and 72 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 6: he was so good on Saturday on Saturday night, and 73 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 6: I was kind of watching the highlights back last night. Man, 74 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 6: there's a fit for him in this league somewhere, and 75 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 6: I think he could be a really good backup somewhere. 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 6: But talking about the emotion, he was very emotional because 77 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: he had gotten a lot really close with these guys, 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 6: Dak Prescott, he had mentioned, you know, by name of course, 79 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 6: Cooper Rush. That entire quarterback room was really close knit 80 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 6: and while they were competitive, they were brothers with each other. 81 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 6: And so you could see the emotion in Will just 82 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 6: having to walk away from those guys, which is tough. 83 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 6: But you know, I'm really excited to see where he 84 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 6: lands this week, because I know he'll land somewhere. 85 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: I'm looking up on the screen and I'm seeing Dak 86 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: Prescott being interviewed postgame, and Nick Harris is in the 87 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: corner of that. 88 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: Shot as well. On NFL picture of that earlier. 89 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: What were your takeaways from from Saturdays when Isaiah a great, 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: great job again by the way in the booth, got 91 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: a chance to look at it. 92 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there you go. It's very nice. 93 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 7: I gotta be better about my facial expression. 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: I got to smile a little bit. 95 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 8: Gonna take it till you make it. No thanks, K why? 96 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 9: But I was just happy and proud of Will gear 97 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 9: Because people forget. 98 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 8: People forget really quickly in this industry. 99 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 9: And Will Greer was in competition, in real competition, and 100 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 9: was actually leading the competition to be the backup quarterback 101 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 9: for the Dallas Cowboys just a year ago, and had 102 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 9: it not been for his injury, he probably would have 103 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 9: beat out Cooper Rush last preseason. It didn't work out 104 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 9: that way, right, And the league is the league, and 105 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 9: things happen the way they happened. But what you saw 106 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 9: on Saturday night is what he's fully capable of. Nobody 107 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 9: questions whether or not Will Greer is smart enough. Nobody 108 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 9: questions whether or not Will Grear has the attributes in 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 9: terms of ability to run or the ability to throw. 110 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 8: Nobody has those questions. 111 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 9: All the questions regarding Will Greer was always his decision making, always, 112 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 9: and that is fully in his power to be able 113 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 9: to correct at any point in time in his life. 114 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 9: And he corrected that on Saturday night. He made the 115 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 9: right choices, He made the right decisions. He took the 116 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 9: easy plays, he took the dump downs, he took the 117 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 9: flat routes. He allowed his guys to go out there 118 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 9: and make plays for him, and because of that, his 119 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 9: stat line was absolutely insane. His ability to use his legs, 120 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 9: guess what, that's what he does. That's natural for him. 121 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 9: Throwing on the run, getting out the pocket, bootlegs, those 122 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 9: things are all things that are he's capable of doing 123 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 9: every single time he touches the field. He just made 124 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 9: the right decisions. So it's kind of it's awesome for 125 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 9: him that he did that on that platform, but it 126 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 9: sucks because if he had he done this before, he 127 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 9: wouldn't be in this position. 128 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: See I kind of make the argument that he didn't 129 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 5: even have and he's saying it at all. Yeah, I 130 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: really honestly don't think it mattered about training again the preseason. 131 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 5: The only chance he was gonna have to like make 132 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 5: a meaningful impact on this team was to be the 133 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 5: backup and the only way that was happening was un 134 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 5: an injury. And the only reason I say that is 135 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 5: because he's not replacing Dak And I'm sorry. There's just 136 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 5: nothing you're gonna do with Oxnard. There's nothing you're gonna 137 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 5: do in these preseason games that are gonna make me go, yeah, 138 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 5: let's get rid of the guy that's five and one 139 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 5: as a starter stepping in a backup situation. That's the 140 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 5: thing about Cooper Rush, Like, yeah, he doesn't wow you 141 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 5: with a lot of things, but to go five and 142 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 5: one as a starter and it's not like any of 143 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 5: those where like he had a lot, like a big 144 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 5: heads up like hawming it about to be the starter. 145 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: And it wasn't like he just beat all bad teams. 146 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: I mean there were some good teams, the Bengals, the 147 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: Rams before everybody got hurt two years ago against Minnesota. 148 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 5: Like you're not gonna sit there and go away from 149 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: that just because you're just like, yeah, you know. 150 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 10: We could have a stronger arm. 151 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 5: Yeah we could have a guy that's a little bit no, 152 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 5: that is exactly what you want in a backup quarterback. 153 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: The other thing, and is obviously we'll get into the 154 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 5: addition on their team. The other problem that for Will 155 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 5: Grear is his age, because he's twenty eight, Cooper Rush 156 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,559 Speaker 5: is twenty nine, about to be thirty, and Dak is thirty. 157 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 5: And when you are all in that clump, like if 158 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 5: Will Greer is twenty two twenty three, well, first of all, 159 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 5: they're not making the trade that we're going to talk about. 160 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 5: And second of all, he's still going to be on 161 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: this team. But it's because they're all in kind of 162 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 5: that same clump together. But I mean to your guy's point, 163 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: and there's no question that he can play in this league. 164 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: It just he kind of got in a tough spot where, 165 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 5: let's be honest, like two years ago, we never thought 166 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: Cooper Rush would get into games and play as well 167 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: as he has. If you just go off of preseason 168 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 5: and training camp practices, you never would have been like, 169 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 5: oh yeah, no, I could tell yeah. I remember third 170 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 5: practice in ads, Rush looked like he was ready. You 171 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 5: never saw that. You never saw it. And in a way, 172 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 5: it's kind of like Dak too, like there were a 173 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 5: tone of those pricees with Jamil Showers. You never were like, 174 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: oh no, no, this guy Kelmore is gonna get hurt 175 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 5: and he'll take Tony's job. Like nobody was saying that 176 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 5: at the time. What happens in the games, to me, 177 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 5: it just is matters so much more. 178 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: So with that being said, you talked about how Will 179 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: Greer had little to no say over the quarterback depth chart. 180 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: If he plays like he did on Saturday in the 181 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: preseason the first two games against Seattle and against Jacksonville 182 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: in Week one, do they make the trade for Trey Lance? 183 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: Do they even go out and make it? Or was 184 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 4: the value too good. 185 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: There for the Cowboys and a fourth round pick, a 186 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: former top top three overall selection in the NFL draft 187 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one. 188 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: Was the value too good there to pass up? Period? 189 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 4: No matter how your backup quarterbacks played, I. 190 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 5: Would say the majority of people would say they don't 191 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 5: make the trade. They stick with him if that happened, sure, 192 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: but the majority of people don't matter. The only person 193 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 5: that matters at end of day is Jerry Jones and 194 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 5: the fact that Trey Lance was a third overall pick, 195 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 5: that they had a high second round grade on him 196 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 5: and looked at him as a potential future starter in 197 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 5: the NFL. I just think that that was like just 198 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: too much of a like a thing that Jerry was 199 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 5: not going to pass up on when he said certain 200 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 5: talks before that game about how we just didn't want 201 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 5: to hang up the phone. Well, when Jerry is committed 202 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: to like that, he's not going to. 203 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 10: Lose out on a deal. 204 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 5: And so I think trey Lan's becoming available is the 205 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 5: key part in that too, because again, if that doesn't happen, 206 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 5: Will Greer is clearly still here. He's not going anywhere. 207 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 5: But because he became available and Jerry fell in love 208 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 5: with that. Really, at the end of the day, it's 209 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 5: only about what he thought. You know, you could have 210 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 5: a bunch of the scouts telling him like, no, I 211 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 5: think there's still some upside here with Greer, but if 212 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 5: Jerry wants to do it, Jerry's. 213 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 11: Going to do it. 214 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 6: And Jerry was talking about it pregame and he said 215 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 6: that he had been wanting to get a developmental quarterback 216 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 6: and with Dak Prescott and at least for the last 217 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 6: three years, he had talked about wanting to go get 218 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 6: Jalen Hurts. It looked like he wanted to use the 219 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 6: third round pick on him, but he got picked I 220 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 6: believe two or three spots after Trayvon Digs. 221 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 7: So that didn't work out. 222 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: So when Jerry said that too, by the way, yeah 223 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 5: that's like third fourth round. That's not like that's not like, 224 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 5: oh we were right there. It sounds good as a story, yep, 225 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 5: especially right now because Jalen Hurts is far exceeded what 226 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 5: you thought he was going to be. But the Cowboys 227 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 5: have shown you that they were not taking second round 228 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: quarterbacks and they certainly weren't going to take him over 229 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 5: Trayvon Diggs. So when they say that, it's all so like, 230 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 5: you know, Dak could have win in the second round 231 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 5: and been like, well, were you like Dak too? 232 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 10: You like Dak in the fourth round? 233 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 5: Like it was not where it's not like it's real close, 234 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: like oh, they got our guy right before us or 235 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: something like that, like how you can make the case 236 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 5: for when they tried to trade up get Text and 237 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 5: Lyunch when they they wanted Connor Cook. You know, so 238 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 5: so those are that's a little bit closer. But I 239 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: just think that him and he wouldn't say Jalen hears 240 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 5: his name. He just kept saying Philadelphia quarterback. 241 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm just kind of like I just where that 242 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 10: team was at. 243 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 5: They were not taking him anywhere in the second round, 244 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 5: maybe third maybe, but I find it very hard to 245 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 5: believe that they were going to take him anywhere close 246 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 5: to her Phillip, because I remember when it happened. 247 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 10: It was a surprise that Philly took him there. Like 248 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 10: it like Jalen Hurd. 249 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 5: Certainly everyone thought was gonna be an NFL quarterback, but 250 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 5: not to the level that he's become. 251 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: You know, No, he was a winner. 252 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 2: It was kind of it was very similar to Dak 253 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 2: Prescott won a lot of the sec was was it 254 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: a program where he was really the leader, the unquestioned leader, 255 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: and then. 256 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 5: Took a seat at Oklahoma where he were like, oh wow, 257 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 5: he went back to the big twelve. 258 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 259 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: So I think there's there's levels to it with this 260 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 2: Trey Lance deal because it's not only just a backup quarterback. 261 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: If you're looking at trading a fourth round pick for 262 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: Trey Lance because it's for a backup quarterback. 263 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: You're not looking at this situation the right way at all. 264 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 4: You're looking at it as. 265 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: Okay, developmental potential starter in the league, high value potential 266 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: comp pick coming if he doesn't necessarily play a whole 267 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: lot here, but he signs elsewhere as a number three 268 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: overall pick, that's a very high probability even three or 269 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: four years down the line. If he signs elsewhere, plays 270 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: a significant amount of snaps, then all of a sudden, 271 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: that fourth round pick comes right back. 272 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: To you in the form of a compensatory pick. 273 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: There are levels to this, but also negotiation in there 274 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: too with Dak Prescott as contract questions come up here 275 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: in the next couple of months, or really once the 276 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: season comes to a close. Isaiah, From an x's and 277 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: o's standpoint, though, what do you like about the trade 278 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: made for Trey Lance and what the Cowboys did by 279 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: going out and getting a guy that not only was 280 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: highly touted enough to go number three overall in the draft, 281 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: but also somebody that's young enough to grow and to 282 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: learn underneath, a guy like Dak Prescott. 283 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 9: I think it's a great pickup for them from a 284 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 9: number of standpoints, not only number one. You look at 285 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 9: age or we just we just touched on that a 286 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 9: little bit. He's a young, young quarterback that doesn't have 287 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 9: a lot of experience. I mean he has, you know, 288 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 9: obviously one year before coming into the league. Really and 289 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 9: then a couple of years in the league so where 290 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 9: he really didn't touch the field. So you talk about 291 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 9: somebody who's raw, who's still moltible, you don't really have 292 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 9: to tear down a bunch of bad habits. I think 293 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 9: that's a great situation to be in for the Cowboys. Obviously, 294 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 9: he comes into a situation with coach McCarthy where he 295 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 9: knows how to take care of quarterbacks and develop quarterbacks. 296 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 9: You put him in a room where he's now doesn't 297 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 9: have the pressure in the expectation of being a starter, 298 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 9: and he gets to be behind somebody who approaches the 299 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 9: game the way as Dak does. And also he fits 300 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 9: the mold of what you're doing offensively right now. I mean, 301 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 9: the reality is Cooper Rush is a sure thing and 302 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 9: he's a safe thing, but he doesn't his style of 303 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 9: play doesn't fit what they like to do right now. 304 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 9: You have to change your offence if Cooper Rush comes 305 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 9: into the game. There's things that you just can't do 306 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 9: any team I don't care. I mean, regardless of how 307 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 9: good you know your backup quarterback might be, you would 308 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 9: prefer to have your backup be able to execute and 309 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 9: play the same style of ball as your starter does, 310 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 9: and that's what Trey Lance possesses those same attributes as 311 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 9: a DAK Prescott, if not more in terms of athletic ability. 312 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 8: So those are all positive things. 313 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 9: And then obviously the things that Kyle's kind of alluded to, 314 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 9: they just got out of it at a situation with 315 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 9: Zach Martin where they didn't have any leverage. Yep, they 316 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 9: had zero leverage. Da Martin was like, go ahead, let 317 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 9: the guys play. You know, the guys that are behind 318 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 9: the starters, they're not even in the same hemisphere as me. 319 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 8: Right, you don't. As an organization. 320 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 9: You want to make sure not only that you fortify 321 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 9: your room all the things that we're hearing from ownership. 322 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 9: You want to fortify your room, have a solid QB room. 323 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 9: There's not enough qbs to go around in this league. 324 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 9: There's high value. We get it also on a business end, 325 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 9: when it comes time to sit down and have conversations 326 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 9: with DAK. 327 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 8: As smooth as. 328 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 9: Everybody would like it to go, it may not go 329 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 9: as smooth as they'd like it to go, and they 330 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 9: need some kind of leverage as well on their end 331 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 9: to say, well, if you want to play this way, 332 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 9: then we still have this that has developed into whatever 333 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 9: they're expecting him to be Trey Lance, that is at 334 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 9: that given point in time. 335 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 8: So number of. 336 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 9: Things, but I think it's a great pick. If you're 337 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 9: going to spend you spend everybody's up here complaining about it. 338 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 9: You spend a fourth round pick on Dak Prescott, nobody's complaining. 339 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 9: You just spend a fourth round pick on Trey Lance. 340 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 9: I don't understand what the conversation is. 341 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 5: The only thing on the leverage thing for me is 342 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: that I do think they'll get a new deal done 343 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 5: with Dak between now and whatever six months from now, 344 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 5: and so I don't think Trey Lance is going to 345 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 5: be able to do much on the field to make 346 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 5: you think that he's anything more than the guy that 347 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 5: couldn't beat out Rock Purdy and couldn't beat out Sam Darnold. 348 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 5: So I don't know that there's much leverage between now 349 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: and when that happens. I mean, so Jerry's quote on 350 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 5: this was candidly, I don't want to plan on, count on, 351 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 5: or wish for help from him this year. So if 352 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 5: you're not getting a help from him this year, so 353 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 5: the only way I would see that it would be 354 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: you know, substantial leverage would be is if Dak got 355 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 5: hurt and let's say Cooper Rush stepped in and they 356 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: were just like it just kind of there was nothing 357 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 5: there and it just was kind of which, to be 358 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 5: honest with you, I think that Cooper Rushes in even 359 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 5: a better situation now than when he stepped in before, 360 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 5: just because the way he plays just don't turn the 361 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: ball over, just be safe, plays right into what this 362 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 5: Dallas defense has, you know what I mean, look at 363 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 5: the only game out of those when he's gone five 364 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: when to start, the only lost is the one when 365 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 5: he threw the three picks against Philadelphia, and how close 366 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 5: that game ended up being in the end. If he 367 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 5: just takes care of the ball, who knows, maybe they 368 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 5: win that game too. Maybe he's you know, six and 369 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 5: Oz is a starter. So but let's just say hypothetically, 370 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 5: if something like that was to happen and then Lance 371 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: gets in and you're just like, whoa, Like, this kid's 372 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 5: got it. He just didn't get the chance, you. 373 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: Know, clicks for him, right. 374 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 5: But the other issue you run into even there is 375 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 5: like he's got his own injury history, you know, where 376 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 5: he also has to stay healthy because that's the other 377 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: part of it. You know, you see a lot after 378 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 5: the trade happened, was about let's just get some package 379 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 5: is where he can just run and do some stuff 380 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 5: like that, Like, well, do you really want to stunt 381 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: his growth as you're trying to make him into a quarterback. 382 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 5: You don't really want him to be oh, what's his name? 383 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 5: The bell Dozer package at Oklahomaah, you know what I'm saying, 384 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 5: Like this is like. 385 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: Belle right, former Dallas Cowboys Tied. 386 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 10: In Chiefs Cowboys back. 387 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, you don't really want to do that with 388 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 5: with Trey Lance. You have visions of him having the 389 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 5: ability to be a starter in the NFL, and if 390 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 5: it's not for your team, you want him to be there, because, 391 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: let's be honest, if you have a quarterback that show 392 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 5: starter trades, there's always gonna be a value for that player. 393 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 394 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 6: And I like what you said, Isaiah about him not 395 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 6: having the pressure anymore coming in as a number three 396 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 6: overall pick. You have pressure from the moment you walk 397 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 6: on that stage and shake Roger Condell's hand and being 398 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 6: able to just take that away, that pressure off his 399 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 6: shoulders and be like, hey, we're going to give you 400 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 6: these two three years to figure this out, and I 401 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 6: believe it would be three more fifth year options is 402 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 6: exercise correct? So yeah, yeah, that pressure is such a 403 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 6: huge thing to take off of somebody, especially as a 404 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 6: coure if you're a quarterback or a kicker, being able 405 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 6: to take any pressure off your shoulder is very important. 406 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 5: The wild storyline, real quick, wild storyline from all of 407 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: this will be because I I the way I ranked 408 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 5: the NFC is it's the Niners, Eagles and Cowboys and 409 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 5: then everybody else. Yeah, and if it's an NFC championship 410 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: game where it's the Eagles and Niners, again, like. 411 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 10: How crazy is it that they both made some. 412 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 5: Terrible decisions at quarterback Eagles paying wins, trading three ones 413 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 5: and a three for Trey Lance, And then you're able 414 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 5: to get away from that and it doesn't even set 415 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 5: you back because that was always the thought, like you 416 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 5: better hit man, you trade these three ones for this quarterback, 417 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 5: you better hit on this guy, or you guys are 418 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 5: going to be digging. 419 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 10: Out of a hole forever. 420 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 5: And it's like there's been no hole dug at all 421 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 5: from those two teams. 422 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: That's that is wild to think about because of this 423 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: being such a quarterback driven league, you you end up 424 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: and I think the comparisons between brock Party and Trey. 425 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: Lance, or even mind boggling, the fact that Lance was 426 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: the number three overall pick. Brock Party was literally mist 427 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 4: irrelevant in the draft just one year ago. 428 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: It's always very, very odd to see how this league 429 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 2: works out. 430 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 4: And you said it happens quick in the league, right, 431 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it always does. 432 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 9: I mean, and from lot I mean it's people will 433 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 9: they just have to wait and see. But I could 434 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 9: tell you from a former players perspective, even when I 435 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 9: left here, when I got cut by Dallas. When I 436 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 9: was playing for Dallas, I had a ton of injuries 437 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 9: and a ton of stress and frustrations and trying to 438 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 9: learn a new position and not getting a coaching. There's 439 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 9: a whole lot of things that went into my time 440 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 9: here that didn't pan out. 441 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: The way I wanted. 442 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 9: But when I got released and then I got picked 443 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 9: up again, you talk about the weight off your shoulders. 444 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 8: Oh crap. 445 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 4: I went. 446 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 9: I left here and went to New England, and I 447 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 9: was a whole nother person, a completely different person. When 448 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 9: I stepped on the field out there. There was no 449 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 9: expectations that I had here. I didn't have people looking 450 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 9: at me, you know, saying, oh, your injury prone, all 451 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 9: that kind of stuff. Like all that weight was off 452 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 9: my shoulder and I was doing things out there that 453 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 9: I hadn't done even remotely thought about doing here in Dallas. 454 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: So it does play a fact. 455 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 8: Confident is everything. 456 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 9: I don't care if you're a first pick in the 457 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 9: draft or your last pick in the draft. As an athlete, 458 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 9: your confidence is literally everything when it comes down to 459 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 9: you can I execute if you have a question mark 460 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 9: in your head on whether or not you could do something, 461 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 9: or I have to do it perfectly because I'm gonna 462 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 9: get scrutinized for it. Like all those things add pressure, 463 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 9: and yes, some people are gonna say, well, he shouldn't 464 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 9: be in. 465 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 4: That position if he can't handle the pressure. 466 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 9: BS, he's a human being, right, and he's a young 467 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 9: human being at that he Now he gets to find 468 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 9: him his way into an organization that is an amazing organization. 469 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 9: They take care of their players, right. The development is 470 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 9: going to be there. He has people that are gonna 471 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 9: love on him, the competition is going to be there. 472 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 9: All those things come into it. And now guess what, 473 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 9: he's rejuvenated again and he gets to find his way, 474 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 9: maybe even for the first time as a football player. 475 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 10: And to your point on that, Isaiah. 476 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: So the Niners played Friday night, and after their game, 477 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 5: their GM John Lynch was available, and then their head 478 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: coach Kyle Shanahan, and both these are separate press conferences, 479 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 5: and at different times, both of them talked about sitting 480 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 5: in the room with Trey and and telling him, Hey, 481 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: this is what happened. We end up trading you to 482 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 5: the Dallas, And they both talked separately about how excited 483 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 5: he was. So it just really makes me think of 484 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 5: what you just said up and. 485 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 4: You hear it. 486 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 9: John Lynch said, we might have gave upon him too early, right, 487 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 9: Shannon has said I might have gave up on him 488 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 9: too early. One of my boys who's on the coach 489 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 9: staff over there, said they quit on him. Like when 490 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 9: you know all that is going on around you, right, 491 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 9: and you know everybody's looking at you and looking at 492 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 9: you with negative intentions, you can't be you, you can't play, 493 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 9: you can't They already have chosen their winner, right, that's 494 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 9: their Party's their dude, Barne. 495 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: Whatever circumstances it took place. That's their dude. 496 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 9: There's nothing regardless of where I was drafted, that I 497 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 9: can do that's going to convince them unless I just 498 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 9: do everything perfectly well. 499 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: It goes back to what John said about Will Greer 500 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: early on. If you have a guy that comes in 501 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: and fills in in a role and wins games. 502 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: Brock Purty last year as a starter, he started eight games. 503 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: He was seven and one, and of course they went 504 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 2: to the NFC Championship game. Party was able to lead 505 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: that team because much like the Cowboys defensively, the forty 506 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: eine have some dogs on the defense. 507 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 4: As long as you take care of the football offensively, 508 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: you're gonna win games. I e. 509 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: Cooper Rush with the Cowboys, Will Greer as the third 510 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: string quarterback, what else do you do? 511 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 4: Trey Lance? 512 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: It's it's a different situation because he was a number 513 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: three overall pick. That's the difference between Will Greer, who 514 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: was a top one hundred pick in his own right, 515 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: and Trey Lance. And then it also the age factor 516 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 2: comes into it too, with it being just twenty something, 517 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: you're twenty is he going into his age twenty four season? 518 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 4: So he turned twenty four this year. 519 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 10: Turned twenty three and just turned twenty three rounds. 520 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: And either way, that's not very not experienced, just as. 521 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 9: Fresh on everybody's mind in terms of giving them a 522 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 9: visual of what it's like to know that you're a 523 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 9: dog at a position, know that you're a player, you 524 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 9: belong in this league, and things just happen and it 525 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 9: kind of takes away your confidence and then something else 526 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 9: happens that triggers you just to be relaxed. 527 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 8: What did Will Griar just do after he was told 528 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 8: that you don't have the pressure. 529 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 4: One for the first part of life. Yeah? 530 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 9: Literally, He's like, I know I could play in this league. 531 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 9: Well guess what, You're not going to be on our 532 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 9: team anymore. You're auditioning for everybody else. Cool, say, rightball bet. 533 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 10: Trey last year in twenty three in May, Okay. 534 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, so this is his age twenty three season. 535 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: He's got a long way to go, no doubt about it, 536 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 2: and he's he's got an uphill challenge. But from everything 537 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: Isaiah is saying, everything John saying, even Nick Harris over here, 538 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: I feel very good about this situation for Trey Lance. 539 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: And if you're if you're upset about the fourth round pick. 540 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: You're upset about that and losing the draft picks. I 541 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: love draft picks as. 542 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 4: Much as anybody in the business. 543 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: This is a good value and this is somebody that 544 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: I think is going to help your football team in 545 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: the long run, whether or not it's it's as a 546 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: quarterback or it's as a trade bait, whatever it ends 547 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: up being down the line, this is a guy that 548 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 2: I think you can you can really rely on and 549 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: grow on. 550 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 4: We'll talk more about Trey Lance. 551 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 2: I'm sure as the season goes along, we're probably going 552 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 2: to talk about him as much as any backup quarterback 553 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: get in the NFL, along with the national media. 554 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 4: But when we come back, let's play the fifty three 555 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 4: man game. 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I'm Kyle you olms, gentlemen, 612 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: you want to play GM for a little bit here. 613 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 4: Let's go. How does that sound? Love it? 614 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: So we're gonna build this Cowboys roster position by position. 615 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna go all the way up and down. And 616 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: I mean, we just got done talking about quarterbacks, right, 617 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: but let's go ahead, and uh, let's let's see what 618 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: we can do for the quarterback position as a whole. 619 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: Let's start with Dak Prescott. You think we're keeping this 620 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,719 Speaker 2: guy around this year? You think he's good to go? 621 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: Probably pretty safe? 622 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, that would be something deeperseason. 623 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 2: You know, I just how many quarterbacks are you keeping 624 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 2: on the fifty three man roster? 625 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 4: New rule and intact here? Do you keep three guys? 626 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: Or do you only have the two and have Cooper 627 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: rush kind of up and down. 628 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: I don't think that's necessarily a possibility right now. 629 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 10: I don't think so either. It'll be three. 630 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 5: So when they made the move for Trey Lance, you 631 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 5: also you gave up one of your roster spots on 632 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 5: you on your fifty three. But also you also gave 633 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: a fourth round pick that I'm not saying they would 634 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 5: have traded a fourth, but I was of interest. Again, 635 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 5: if I'm being the GM right now, I had some 636 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 5: interest in possibly shipping a fifth or a sixth around 637 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 5: this time for some offensive line depth help. And now 638 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 5: that I just traded my fourth, I don't know how 639 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 5: much I want to trade one of my fensers six. 640 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: I kind of get you taking care of at that point. 641 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know like that kind of I mean 642 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 5: maybe if it's one for Usually they want to trade 643 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 5: ones that are in that next year's draft. 644 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 10: That's what teams want and return. 645 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 5: So now I'm kind of sitting there going, well, this 646 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 5: move prevents me from possibly doing that, so we'll see. 647 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 5: Maybe they're a little bit riskier than I am. 648 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the one weird thing about the trade 649 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: Lance trade was the timing of it. You would think 650 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: that backup quarterback was not nearly as high on the 651 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: list from a priority standpoint as maybe some offensive line depth, 652 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: some linebacker. 653 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 4: That was the one. 654 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 10: It's surprising. 655 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 5: It's one of the most surprising moves of the Cowboys 656 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 5: have made in a while, and it's one of those 657 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 5: where I feel like the Cowboys are always mentioned with 658 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 5: anybody that's on the trade talks or a free agent, 659 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 5: and there wasn't a lot of like real chatter about this, 660 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 5: you know, And you find out that forty Naers really 661 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 5: wanted to trade him to the AFC. But then the 662 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 5: Cowboys come in with clearly the best offer of anyone. 663 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 5: So I think it surprised the Niners and probably most 664 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 5: of the league. 665 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: By the way the quarterback rule, the emergency QB rule 666 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: change that the NFL puts in this season, teams who 667 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 2: are carrying two quarterbacks on their active roster on game 668 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: day may carry a third emergency quarterback from the fifty 669 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: three man roster who does not count against the team's 670 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: game day roster, so they do count toward the fifty three. 671 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 4: You don't get really a break there, but it doesn't 672 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 4: count toward the forty eight. On game day. 673 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 2: Whenever you have to activate all those guys, it has 674 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: to be on the fifty three. So we're keeping three guys. 675 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 2: We're down the fifty roster spots. Running back Tony Pollard 676 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: duce Vaughan, Is that RB two right now? Do you 677 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: feel pretty comfortable about are you keeping three guys? 678 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 4: What do you think Isaiah keeping three? I think you're 679 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: four going forty. Who's your four? 680 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 9: I think you are going with obviously TP, you got Jones, 681 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 9: you got Duce Vaughn, and I think you have to 682 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 9: keep Rico. 683 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 4: You're keeping Ronald Jonson the roster. Yeah, you're keeping Ronald Jones. 684 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 4: That's just a question. Yeah, I'm curious. 685 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 9: I don't think they hold on to them all the 686 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 9: way camp just to let him go. 687 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 6: I think maybe the hold on part was to see 688 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 6: if he could be ready for a last preseason game. 689 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 6: I see, I see it being tough keeping him around personally, 690 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 6: and that would be tough too, especially considering his two 691 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 6: games suspension. Me, it's Tony, Rico, Douce Faun. And then 692 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 6: the question becomes, and it's been posed in the last 693 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 6: thirty six hours, is it Sean McEwan or Hunter. 694 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 7: Lipkey that takes that extra offens the spot? 695 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 8: I'm taking McEwan, Yeah, McEwan on it. 696 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, what do you think? John? 697 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going three running backs. I'm going Rico, daud Or, 698 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 5: Tony Pollard and Douce fun. 699 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: I think I'm going there too. I think you've seen 700 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: enough from Malik Davis I like the possibilities of Hunter Lipkey, 701 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: but just on this roster right now, and I think 702 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: you can get away with putting Ronald Jones maybe on 703 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: puff to start the year and kind of statu him 704 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: for a little bit. 705 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: If that's the case, you keep him around. 706 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what the value will be on 707 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 5: him with him not playing and then the fact that 708 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 5: he's suspended for the first two games. 709 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 4: I don't sure. 710 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 10: Maybe somebody does. 711 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: But if you if you put a player. 712 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: They have to be active to serve those two games suspensions, right, 713 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: I believe so? 714 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 4: Okay, so yeah, oh man, that but I think so. 715 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 2: I think at the case, at this case, I think 716 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: we're keeping three running backs and we're moving moving along. 717 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 4: All right, Let's go to a wide receiver. 718 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: Got Ceedee lamp, Brandon Cooks, Michael Gallup, Jalen Tolbert, Cavante Turpin. 719 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: Turpin took the pads off in that last game. Pretty 720 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: set there, So there's five, no doubters. Who's your sixth guy? 721 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: Who earned the spot to be the sixth guy? Or 722 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: do you keep five and roll with it that way? 723 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: I was about to say that you need six. I 724 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 4: think they go five receivers. 725 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: Four tight ends, Okay, you keep the extra tight end, 726 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: save a roster five. 727 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 4: I think if anything that says a roster spot. Defensively, 728 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 4: this is a two tight end offense. 729 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 9: I don't know if anybody's recognized yet, but this is 730 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 9: a two tight end offense. The majority of this offense 731 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 9: is the foundational pillar of it is two tight ends. 732 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 9: So if you go into it with three tight ends, yeah, 733 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 9: you're playing with fire. So you need four guys there. 734 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 9: I agree with you guys on a running back situation. 735 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 9: I just didn't know how the Jones situation is going 736 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 9: to pan out. So sure, four tight ends, five receivers, 737 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 9: I don't. I think if you keep a sixth you're 738 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 9: forcing it. Then you have too many guys on defense 739 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 9: to be loading up with guys on offense that you 740 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 9: may not utilize. 741 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 5: I mean, they love to keep their draft class, but 742 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 5: I just haven't seen enough from Jalen Brooks for me 743 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 5: to not be able to let him and send me 744 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: go and not think that one of these receivers. I mean, heck, 745 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 5: you look at like even the game Tyron Johnson had 746 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 5: on Saturday night, like it's kind of like running back 747 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 5: for me too, here, I just wide receiver and running back. 748 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 5: When you're talking about a fourth running back, a sixth 749 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 5: wide receiver. Come on, guys, everybody, this isn't the only 750 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: team cutting down to fifty three. Like, you can't tell 751 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 5: me there's not gonna be some guys out there when 752 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 5: everybody else and on one day is going from ninety 753 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 5: to fifty three. You cannot tell me that there's not 754 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 5: gonna be six receivers that are out there. Plea six 755 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 5: seventh eth quality offensive lineman, probably not six seventh eighth 756 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 5: quality defensive lineman, probably not running back and wide receiver. 757 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 10: I think you can find somebody. 758 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: So are you keeping five guys? 759 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 10: Five guys? That's the five you sa rolling with? 760 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 4: The five? I would like to maybe take a chance 761 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 4: on Jalen Brooks here. I've seen enough. 762 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 10: I think he would clearly the sex. I really do. 763 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen enough from Simmy Fooco. I love the guy, 764 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 4: I really do. 765 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: I think I think he's run the course here, and 766 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 2: then he's given plenty of opportunities either to stay healthy 767 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: or to continue growing into a role in either what 768 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: Neither one of those things has happened since he was drafted. 769 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 4: So I think Brooks. 770 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 5: That's really tight for me that that was gonna be like, 771 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 5: that's one of my first three or four. 772 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 10: Cuts off of there. 773 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 5: But I kept an extra defensive lineman, an extra the 774 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 5: dB that you guys might disagree with him when we 775 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: get to that, but that's what. 776 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 10: It came down to. 777 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 5: Also the fact that I just found out that we're 778 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 5: going to have a trade a fourth round pick for changes. 779 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 4: I think it takes up a roster spot Brooks. 780 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 9: You can roll the dice on him clearing waivers because 781 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 9: what we know of Brooks, the majority of that has 782 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 9: tim in practice truly. 783 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, good point. There's no tape on it, no film 784 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 4: on it. 785 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: So I'll say five maybe, but stix in parentheses right now. 786 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 4: But we're keeping five receivers, four tight ends. 787 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: John Stevens on IR so you don't have to worry 788 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 2: about losing the rookie this year, Jake Ferguson, Peyton Hendershot, 789 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 2: Luke scoon Maker, Sean. 790 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: McEwan, everybody gear the tight end. Yeah, there's your four. 791 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 2: So offensively, in terms of the skills positions, right now, 792 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: we have fifteen positions, taking up three quarterbacks, three running backs, 793 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: five wide receivers and four. 794 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 4: Tight ends, and that's where we've got going forward. 795 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 10: Now, this is where it gets interesting. 796 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: This is where things can get crazy. Offensive line. How 797 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: many guys are you keeping? We'll start with the starters. 798 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: The starters are going to stay there, Terrence Steel, Zach Martin, 799 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: Tyler Biattish, Tyler Smith, Tyron Smith. 800 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 4: All right, who's next? Who would like to go? 801 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 10: Well, there's no chance that they would let Austin Richards go. 802 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, even if he didn't look good, you're 803 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 5: not going to give up on a. 804 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 10: Fifth round pick that quickly. 805 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 4: So there's six. 806 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't think they would move on from well, 807 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 5: let's go either, just because of the fact that they 808 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 5: don't they don't really have any depth at offensive tackle. 809 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 10: I feel pretty confident with him. 810 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 5: And I kind of feel confident that I don't feel 811 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 5: confident with him as a player. I feel confident with 812 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 5: them keeping him. 813 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 4: But this is us as gu Do you want to 814 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 4: move on from him? That's the case. 815 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 5: And I would even say I think Chuma Dog is 816 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 5: pretty safe just because of the investment they made. 817 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 6: Probably I l so then after that he does that 818 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 6: count towards the fifty three? 819 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 7: Initially, if he's going to go on pump or I are. 820 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, he might not. Then that's true. That's a 821 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 5: good point. If he goes on IR, then he's done 822 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 5: for the season. 823 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 2: You do have to get down to fifty three, he 824 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: can go on pump and at that point, so I 825 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: think I think you could probably get away with stashing. 826 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 5: Those are the names that I feel like from everything 827 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 5: I've heard from the organization that they talk up. You 828 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, you could kind of you could 829 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 5: probably throw josh Ball in there. But him coming off 830 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 5: the injury, he seems like a guy that like probably 831 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 5: won't be ready for a couple of months. And again, 832 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 5: like we haven't seen enough on the field to think that. 833 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 5: I'm just saying this is going off of what the 834 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 5: way that they talk. 835 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: But how svere is Josh Ball's injury He left the 836 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: game on Saturday. Did we get an update on that? 837 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: We and I've seen there there are some reports that 838 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: he might be out for significant a. 839 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 7: Couple of months. I think it was a timeline by report. 840 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 4: But okay, so. 841 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: Maybe you can to stash josh Ball there too, So 842 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 2: Matt will let's go awesome Richards, Matt Farniak I'm not unborable, 843 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 2: let's go. 844 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 4: Okay, you're done with if you if. 845 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 5: You're not, if you're not on board with Matt will, 846 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 5: let's go. He probably just keep seven offensive linemen and 847 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 5: keep those other rosters. 848 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: The thing, I'll put it this way. 849 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 9: I believe that there are seven on this roster, okay, 850 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 9: and I think that they're going to go grab two more. 851 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that would be And that makes a ton 852 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 5: of sense because that's the thing. Like I always am 853 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 5: stuck around offensive defensive line, around that number ten, which 854 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 5: it's generally where you know, you go over your fifty 855 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 5: threes from the last whatever decade. It's usually in that neighborhood. 856 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 5: But why not go a little bit lighted offensive line. 857 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 5: If you don't really trust your back why not trust 858 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 5: bringing in a couple of new guys. Because when I 859 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 5: made mine, I put mine out this morning. A comment 860 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 5: that I got was the last, where's your backup center? 861 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 5: Who cares we're cutting down into initial fifty three? 862 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 10: Do you think hold on? Did you see to anybody 863 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 10: that emerges your backup center? 864 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 5: Is there anybody who's like you don't want to let 865 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 5: Hoffman get out there? 866 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 10: They'll find a backup center. What are we doing here? 867 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 5: Like there's not there's not like eight, nine, ten guys 868 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 5: on the offensive line that you're just like, man, we 869 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 5: can't let. 870 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 10: Him out of the room. Yeah you can't. Okay, you 871 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 10: say so. 872 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 2: There's probably six guys total that if if you put 873 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 2: if you put them on on waivers, they wouldn't stick around. 874 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: The rest of the offensive line is going to make 875 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 4: it right through? What TJ? Bass? Is an interesting question? 876 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 4: Bass or only ye? Yes? That completes the seven. 877 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, he would not read waivers with no y. He's 878 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 5: put up And I have asked on mind too. I 879 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 5: just didn't know if you guys have agree with I 880 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 5: know I actually I do. 881 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 4: I think I think eight and nine. I think Hornio 882 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 4: has been around, but I don't think he had a 883 00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 4: good preseason. 884 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 2: So thumbs up, her thumbs down on these three guys. Farnaac, 885 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 2: I would keep Farne. I think he's as you. 886 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 9: Have another guy that you can grab, I would say yes, 887 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 9: unless there's somebody else that you can just go say 888 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 9: all right. 889 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: I'll label Matt Farniac as an expendable retention. 890 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 4: Correct. 891 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 2: He doesn't have to be the guy, but he's a guy, 892 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: and you've got him in the building, you might as 893 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: well keep him Baday, it was on the fifty three 894 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 2: man roster. 895 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 7: If we have to pick fifty three from this list, 896 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 7: then I'm taking Farno. 897 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 2: Yes, from this list. We're not trading anybody just yet. 898 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 2: I wish we could, but that'd be fun. Brock Coffin 899 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: yes or no? 900 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,240 Speaker 4: No? No, no? Done? 901 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 2: Okay, So TJ Bass yes, yes, Alec Linstrom no no. 902 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 4: So right now we've got nine offensive linemen. 903 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got the five starters, Matt Farniac split on well, 904 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: let's go split on Awesome Richards and TJ. Bass, two 905 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: rookies that you feel pretty good about the way that 906 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 2: they performed in the preseason. So nine offensive linemen up front, 907 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 2: So that gives us a grand total of nineteen on 908 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: the offensive. 909 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 4: Of the football. 910 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 10: Uh, let's just do the three special teams right now? 911 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, three special steamers. Boom, there you go. There's there's 912 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 4: special there. 913 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 10: I will stay with that. 914 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 5: I don't know one hundred percent of this, but I 915 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 5: do think that there's a chance that they can do. 916 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 4: Some of that. 917 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, where like snapper, Yeah, and he's still going 918 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 5: to be your long snapper. So but I would stay 919 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 5: just for our thing. I would just stay three there. Okay, 920 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 5: So we've done that in the past. 921 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: Like CJ. 922 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 5: Go wins another one, like I could see CJ. Gowin 923 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 5: not being in the fifty three. 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Yes, any doctor Pepper flavor will do. 973 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 4: Now. 974 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 11: Just a reminder that I don't need to be a 975 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 11: real doctor to know that Doctor Pepper is the one 976 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 11: you deserve. 977 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 4: To Talking Cowboys. 978 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 2: This segment is brought to you by in Visiligne, the 979 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 2: official smile of the Dallas Cowboys. Welcome back into our 980 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 2: Talking Cowboys fifty three man roster special with Isaiah Stanback, 981 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: John Matchoda, Nick Harris. I'm Kyle Yeomans, our fellow GMS 982 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 2: building this roster. I misspoke in the first segment. We 983 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 2: have twenty four offensive players three special teamers, so we 984 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: have twenty seven roster spots accounted for at the moment. 985 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 2: We kept three quarterbacks, three running backs, five wide receivers 986 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: with a possible sixth, four tight ends, and nine offensive linemen, 987 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,720 Speaker 2: and then of course you keep your three guys. Everybody 988 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 2: very quickly feel good about Brandon Aubrey and what he 989 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 2: showed on Saturday. I thought it was impressive in my 990 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: own right. I think he's earned at least a shot, yeah, 991 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 2: to earn it full time. 992 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 6: I'll say this, and I wrote about it as soon 993 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 6: as the game ended. He's earned the right to be 994 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 6: on that flight to New York. As far as anything 995 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 6: further than that, I think, you know, you really reevaluate 996 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 6: during the bye week to see if you can keep 997 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,839 Speaker 6: him throughout the season. But I think the trial run 998 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 6: needs to continue into the year. I think he's showed 999 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 6: too much good stuff to dump on him this early, 1000 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 6: and hitting a fifty nine yarders certainly helps. But I 1001 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 6: was even writing that beforehand, So yeah, I want I 1002 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 6: want to see him continue to get those opportunities very much. 1003 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 4: So agree on that one. 1004 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 5: Okay, hold on, I I hate the national TV shows, 1005 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 5: where very rarely I shouldn't say album, because there definitely 1006 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,239 Speaker 5: some times when Gus will come back and point out 1007 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 5: when they were wrong. So I can't rip the Brandon 1008 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 5: Aubrey thing because I'm the guy that wanted them to 1009 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 5: draft Jake Moody, Cady York. Moody's hurt, Cad York doesn't 1010 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 5: look that great, so and those would have taken, you know, 1011 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 5: notable picks to get one of those guys. If this 1012 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 5: doesn't work out, you didn't really give up anything, you know, 1013 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 5: you just signed Brandon Aubrey. And so the first after 1014 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 5: the first fifty nine yarder, it was so bad that 1015 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,960 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, I don't know. But then the 1016 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 5: second one, I was kind of like, all right, and 1017 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 5: then maybe maybe he's got it in him. But like 1018 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 5: that first one the way kind of like knuckleball all 1019 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 5: the way to the left, I'm. 1020 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,839 Speaker 17: Like, yeah, but it went like sixty four again had 1021 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 17: a distance switch, which is interesting because I've I've felt 1022 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 17: throughout training camp in preseason they've almost been like trying 1023 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 17: to protect him from kicking long kicks. 1024 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 10: And so when they bought him out. 1025 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 5: There for two different fifty nine yards, they clearly believe 1026 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 5: he has the lake. So yeah, I'm flying with that. 1027 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 4: Okay, there you go. 1028 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 2: So I do like that, keeping it, keeping an accountable 1029 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: John across the table. 1030 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 4: I like it. 1031 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I like to point out and I'm an idiot. 1032 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 4: Same here. Honestly, it happens pretty often, all right. 1033 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 2: Defensive line this is where things also can get interesting 1034 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 2: because it's a different conversation than offensive line and the 1035 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: fact that it's too deep to. 1036 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,240 Speaker 4: Really limit it. So let's start with the starters. 1037 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence, Jonathan Hankins, Os Digizu at Dorn's Armstrong. We're 1038 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: not counting Michael Parsons in this list. He's gonna stay 1039 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 2: with the linebacker guys. Okay, He's gonna stay with the linebackers. 1040 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: Right now, there are two different schools of completely different thoughts. 1041 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 4: Okay, completely different thoughts. 1042 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep them at linebacker, okay, and then I'm 1043 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 2: gonna go the second level. Sam Williams, Mazzie Smith, Dante 1044 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 2: Fowler and then are those all locks? 1045 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 4: We feel pretty good about those names that I just mentioned. Yeah, 1046 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 4: so that's seven. Here are some of the bubble guys. 1047 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 10: Did you say Billy on me? 1048 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 4: Fojoko? 1049 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 10: Have not he's on it? 1050 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 4: You think he's done? He's yeah. Isaiah seems to disagree. 1051 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 10: It has and has nothing to do with anything. 1052 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 4: He's going fourth round pick. 1053 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 5: It's the fourth round pick, and just the stuff I've 1054 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 5: heard about how high they were on him going in, 1055 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 5: I just do not think they will cut ties with 1056 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 5: him this early. And I to your point, the way 1057 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,439 Speaker 5: Isaiah's looking at me, I'm telling you, I just would 1058 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 5: not be like. 1059 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 10: I think they're going to keep him. I think he's 1060 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 10: locked in. 1061 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 7: I think they're gonna be gunshy on John Richards. 1062 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 8: I think they're going to exactly. 1063 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 4: And that's a good point. That's what it is. 1064 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:31,839 Speaker 8: The Ridgeway fact. 1065 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't letting you don't go too early last year. 1066 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 6: It goes to Mike McCarthy's point of not wanting to 1067 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 6: give up on guys too early, and that would be 1068 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 6: given up early. 1069 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 10: So what does that put. What's the numbers on there? 1070 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: So that would be eight currently, that leaves Neville Gallimore, 1071 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 2: Chauncey Golston, and Quentin Bohanna. 1072 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm on with Nevill, Galli, Moore, And I 1073 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 5: know a lot of people argue that point, but I 1074 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 5: don't love anything that's going on beyond my starting defensive tackles. 1075 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 5: And I'm not sitting here saying devil Galimore is going 1076 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 5: to be a pro bowler, but I at least feel 1077 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 5: solid about him. So when you have him and mazi 1078 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 5: as kind of being your next two guys there. But now, 1079 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 5: of course they think that, you know, Chauncey and Fojoko 1080 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 5: can help a defensive tackle, I don't. 1081 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 10: I'm not as confident about that. So I keep Neville's. 1082 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 4: You're keeping Neville and cutting Quentin Bohanah, Yeah, yes, I 1083 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 4: am as well. 1084 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 8: I think I would agree with that. 1085 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 5: I don't know why you would need Mazzi, Hankins and Bohanna. Yes, 1086 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 5: a roster that they've everybody in the organization has talked 1087 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 5: about whole heart is going to be a cut down 1088 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,919 Speaker 5: this fifty three. I just don't know how you would 1089 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,840 Speaker 5: keep all three of those because they you're gonna have 1090 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 5: to go short somewhere else. 1091 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 2: Well, you think about it with Bohanna, when he was 1092 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 2: drafted in the sixth round, it was not a high pick. 1093 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,240 Speaker 4: It was a sixth round pick out of Kentucky. 1094 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was brought in to be the run stuffer, 1095 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 2: the big trash game full of dirt right in the 1096 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 2: middle of that defensive line. 1097 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,799 Speaker 4: Now you've got two of those guys that actually have 1098 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 4: some game reps and success. I mean, of course, if you. 1099 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 5: Don't use it's not like I mean, the video is surfaced. 1100 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 5: It's not like it's it's that crazy to think that 1101 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 5: they don't go Mazzie Smith in the first round. 1102 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 10: Sure, they go the offensive lineman. 1103 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 5: And if that happens, maybe they don't draft a defensive 1104 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 5: tackle until the third, fourth, fifth round. Maybe you need 1105 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 5: Quentin Bohanna. But after you got Mazzie Smith, it was 1106 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 5: gonna make it. 1107 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:18,839 Speaker 2: Tough completely completely. What about Chauncey Golston Here, this one's 1108 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 2: hard for me. 1109 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 4: This one's tough, is. 1110 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 7: What it is for me. 1111 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 6: If you want to take I love the I think 1112 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 6: you go a little bit light at defensive tackle to 1113 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 6: try to res try to retain mister number fifty three 1114 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 6: Isaiah land Ooh okay, okay, The fifty three stands for 1115 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 6: he's gonna be the fifty third man on the roster. 1116 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 10: Wow, interested, bubble guy. 1117 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 4: So we're sitting at one, two, three, four, eight. 1118 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 7: Not that would be ten. I believe if Mike. 1119 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 4: To keep Johncey would be would be ten. 1120 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 7: To keep it Land or Chauncey would be ten. 1121 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because I'm not even looking at Yeah, okay. 1122 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 7: I'm open to trying to, you know, keep. 1123 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 2: So you're saying it's between Johncey Golson and Tyrus Wheat, 1124 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me and Isaiah Land. 1125 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,879 Speaker 4: Those are your two guys. Correct? Who would you keep? 1126 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 4: In that instance? 1127 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 7: Zero one or two? You could keep none of them, 1128 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 7: one of them or both of them. 1129 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 9: I like Land a lot, but I don't I don't 1130 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 9: think that they can afford to try to keep another 1131 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 9: one of it for what he does for this team. 1132 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 2: Well, and keep it in mind that Chauncey Golston was 1133 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 2: a third round pick. That's another thing. A Day two 1134 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 2: pick and a top one hundred guy. If you're going 1135 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 2: to let him go, he will probably not pass through 1136 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 2: waivers because he has the high the high upside. 1137 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 4: Isaiah Land was. 1138 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 9: An undrafted free agent. I get it, he may slip through. 1139 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,360 Speaker 9: I've watched three games though, and had the impact. 1140 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 2: So what are we doing? Are we cutting Chauncey Golston? 1141 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 2: Here's what's happened? I am okay. 1142 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 4: Oh man, that's hard for me. 1143 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 5: I don't know if I I don't give him too 1144 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 5: just because he's a third. 1145 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 8: I don't get a tout to that draft pick. Yeah, 1146 00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,439 Speaker 8: I just don't. 1147 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 10: As we go later, I am cutting a third so. 1148 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 4: You are Oh okay, there's some foreshadowing. Uh okay. 1149 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 2: So nine no, ten offensive linemen, I mean ten defensive line. 1150 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 10: The same draft class. 1151 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 4: I've got nine, same round. 1152 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,240 Speaker 10: I mean we cutting both the third round picks. 1153 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 2: So we cut Naseean Wright. Should we just go ahead 1154 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 2: and go to the cornerback spot? 1155 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 15: Oh? 1156 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 5: I can totally see you guys disagree with me on that. 1157 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 5: I just it's just it's pretty heavy at that spot there. 1158 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 5: And if you're going to keep Eric Scott and some 1159 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 5: of these other guys, yeah, Calvin Joseph, like, I mean, 1160 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 5: it gets to be a numbers game. You keep Wan Yeah, Mark, 1161 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 5: Mark we spelled, blieve me. There's tons of guys that 1162 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 5: have stood out. But I mean you can't keep everybody, 1163 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 5: so but not I mean I will not be surprised 1164 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,280 Speaker 5: that rights on the team. 1165 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Stefan Killmore, Trayvon Diggs, Eric Scott, Deron Bland. 1166 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 4: You're pretty good about those. 1167 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 2: Er Scott ten with land or Golston with land Land? Yeah, 1168 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 2: just just because you you you fought for it. But 1169 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 2: I'll say Land slash Golston because I think I would 1170 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 2: flip lop. But I think I would keep Chauncey and 1171 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 2: I would take I would take. 1172 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 10: A Lance Overland's over Lance Lance. 1173 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,480 Speaker 2: Over tree Lance Yeah, Land l A n D. Everybody listening, 1174 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: Uh corner real quick? So ten defensive lineman corner Stefan Gilmore, 1175 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 2: Trayvon Diggs, dron Bland. 1176 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 4: You're not keeping Eric Scott, I'm not. You're not. 1177 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 2: You didn't see enough from him. I did not six 1178 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 2: round pick. I mean they've expended six round picks before. 1179 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they traded What did they trade to 1180 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 8: give them? 1181 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 4: They traded up to go get him. 1182 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 14: Uh. 1183 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 2: At the top of this, I think it was next 1184 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 2: year's fifth to go get him. 1185 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,399 Speaker 5: Do you think that they can keep Scott and Nash 1186 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 5: right or do you think it's one or the other 1187 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 5: one another? 1188 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 7: Well, I'm keeping in that book. 1189 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 2: Then I think I would be too. Let's let's go, 1190 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 2: let's go back to the linebacker. 1191 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 5: I also think Calvin Joseph's on this team, by the way, 1192 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 5: about this, okay? 1193 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 4: Yes? 1194 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 2: Uh, micah Leyton vander Esh Tabril Cox to Moan Clark 1195 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 2: Overshown's going to eye on are Devin Harper? 1196 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1197 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about Elie Jefferson. No, no, I agree, done 1198 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: done or I are we. 1199 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 5: I'm keeping seventeen safeties that hopefully some can play linebackers. 1200 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 10: I'm going Finett linebacker. 1201 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 8: I like Malie Jefferson a lot. I did too. 1202 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 4: He played well, he really did. 1203 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 9: You can't help getting injured. I mean, I'm not sure 1204 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,919 Speaker 9: what the severity of his injury at this point. 1205 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 7: I think the saving grace for Malik is special teams. 1206 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, solid on special team. 1207 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 6: It depends who they want to fill that over shown 1208 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 6: slash slu Gifford role. And if it's Jefferson Jefferson, if 1209 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,319 Speaker 6: it's lip Key, it's lip key. If it's you know, 1210 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 6: that's the. 1211 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 8: Thing, Like, that's that's a whole other topic. Maybe we 1212 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 8: could talk about that on Wednesday. But yeah, I think 1213 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 8: I think that's one of a Thomas. 1214 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, nobody he's talking about that. 1215 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 8: Everybody's talking about Marque's bill. 1216 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, one of is bigger, Yeah he is, and 1217 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,680 Speaker 2: more aggressive he plays downhill. Uh, Devin Harper the fifth 1218 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 2: one there? So are you keeping he keeping five linebackers? 1219 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 10: Keeping four? Because I don't think Michael Parson is a linebacker. 1220 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 4: But yes, Okay, that's fair. 1221 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 2: I understandably, we're just using it as a as as ah. 1222 00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 10: We're in a safe space here. 1223 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 9: Originally I had numbers game. Originally I had ten D 1224 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 9: linemen including Michael Parsons, which I have Now I have 1225 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:07,320 Speaker 9: nine D linemen. 1226 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, you guys are we're going to go to ten? 1227 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and then we've got the five linebackers including 1228 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 2: Michael Parsons. Right, safety safeties because I'm still corner's got 1229 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 2: a lot of questions for me. 1230 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 4: Safeties, j Ron Donovan Malik. There's your three. Who are 1231 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 4: you keeping. 1232 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 8: Marcus bill Oney, Thomas Israel McCormack. 1233 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 4: You're keeping six safeties. Yep, you're keeping six safeties. 1234 00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 8: You use them as a lineback when. 1235 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 10: You when over shown went down. 1236 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,919 Speaker 5: I bumped up the hold up when overshown went down, 1237 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 5: and they didn't immediately try and add a linebacker. 1238 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 8: That was Tilly. 1239 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, because honestly, going back to the sixth receiver thing 1240 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 5: or not keeping six, if they need a six receiver, 1241 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,279 Speaker 5: they'll go get a t Y Hilton type guy. 1242 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 10: During the season. 1243 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 5: If it gets to that level where someone's getting hurt 1244 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 5: or something like that, they're not going to be like, oh, man, 1245 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 5: we only kept five. We could really use this receiver, right, 1246 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 5: They'll go out and get another receiver if they need to. 1247 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 6: If you're if you're taking six safeties, you would have 1248 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 6: to trust one of those guys to step in and 1249 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 6: play nickel or corner at some point, which which is fine. Yeah, 1250 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 6: because when it comes to actual corners, you only have 1251 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 6: five spots there. 1252 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,120 Speaker 8: That's why I didn't carry ten d linemen. 1253 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1254 00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,800 Speaker 4: And if we're keeping six safeties. 1255 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 8: At six safety, six corners on my list. 1256 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're keeping six safeties, then that leaves us 1257 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 2: there five spots for corner. 1258 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 6: Then you cut Lander Golston if you feel too good 1259 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 6: about I feel too good about the pass road. 1260 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 8: I can't see as a lamb being there. 1261 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:32,120 Speaker 4: That makes sense. 1262 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 2: So you would go down to nine defensive linemen ten 1263 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: if you want to include Micah, and you. 1264 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,840 Speaker 4: Would give you would give six spots. 1265 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 2: For six six corners, six safeties, six corners man twelve 1266 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 2: on the secondary. 1267 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 4: That's fair. I get it how dan Quinn uses his defense. 1268 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 4: That's that's fair. 1269 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 9: You're light, he's you're you got four down linemen, you 1270 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 9: got two linebackers. You always got six six d's on 1271 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 9: the field. 1272 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,759 Speaker 4: Okay, where does ce J. Goodwin fit into that mix? 1273 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:57,880 Speaker 8: He's on a specialist? 1274 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 2: There no three specialists is punter, kicker, and holder? So 1275 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 2: do you keep a spot for c J. 1276 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 4: Goodwin? 1277 00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 2: Feels like every year they find a way to do 1278 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,160 Speaker 2: so they'll figure it out. So he's still here, is 1279 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 2: what you're you're saying. So there's one, you got five spots, 1280 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 2: Gilmour Bland digs for sure, there's your your three. 1281 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 4: Now you're down to two. 1282 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 7: That's one, isn't it? 1283 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 4: Or two? Two? Yeah? Two spots from there? 1284 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 7: Eric Scott, Kelvin Joseph right, pick two? 1285 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 9: Pick two out of those guys. Okay, and what was 1286 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 9: the other one? 1287 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 4: Eric Scott? 1288 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 7: Eric Scott or Calvin. 1289 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 8: Eric Scott? 1290 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 5: So you are going to just watch him telling you 1291 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 5: Calvin Joseph is gonna make this team? 1292 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,000 Speaker 4: Just what I get. I get the thought process, I 1293 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 4: really do. 1294 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 2: But if you were making the decision, John, but you 1295 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 2: think he will make the team. Yeah, so that's does 1296 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 2: that mean it's tough for Eric Scott to make it? 1297 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,479 Speaker 10: No, I got I got right off the team? 1298 00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 4: Oh you okay? 1299 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 5: So out of gas you're saying, if I'm picking it, Yeah, yeah, 1300 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 5: I'm keeping right over Kelvin Joseph, I'm saying I don't 1301 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 5: think they they would. I think if it came down 1302 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,439 Speaker 5: to those two, I think they would keep. 1303 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 2: Telling I think I agree with you absolutely completely, I think, 1304 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 2: but I'm keeping. If I'm doing GM work here, I 1305 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 2: would keep nay Sean Wright and Eric Scott, but I 1306 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 2: don't think they'll do that. 1307 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,439 Speaker 5: I'm over here looking at why you as a problem, 1308 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 5: But I wanted to look up the twenty eighteen roster 1309 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 5: because I feel like that's probably when just the fact 1310 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 5: that they're we're keeping six safeties. Eighteen they had like 1311 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,359 Speaker 5: Jeff Heath, Xavier Woods, I mean, Barry Church was even 1312 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,919 Speaker 5: around anymore. No, I mean it was just so thin 1313 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,959 Speaker 5: at safety and didn't think that we're at this point 1314 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 5: now we're keeping six. Of course, it's like like Isaiah said, though, 1315 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 5: it's because it's because of Dan Quinn, you know, and 1316 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 5: the way he plays defense or the way he schemes 1317 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 5: up his defense. 1318 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 10: That's why you keep those. 1319 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 5: That's way I almost look at it, is like you 1320 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 5: can't just look at it as these are just safeties. 1321 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 5: It's because it's like this linebacker safety hybrid type things 1322 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 5: right right. 1323 00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 2: Position who would have thought going into this train in 1324 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 2: camp that we would go short at wide receiver and 1325 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 2: shorter that defensive line than we originally. 1326 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 5: I would win shorter at wide receiver. If I didn't 1327 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,399 Speaker 5: get this, this quarterback thrown in my. 1328 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 4: Laugh lest right, Yeah, it threw a wrench into it. 1329 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 4: But there's got to make a change. 1330 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 5: I guess you know a lot of people listening to 1331 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 5: this would be would probably disagree with me on Neville Gallimore. 1332 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 10: I think there's a lot of people that think that 1333 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,439 Speaker 10: they'll move on from him. 1334 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 4: I don't disagree by the way. I think he's on 1335 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 4: the team. 1336 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 10: And then who is the other one, Kevin Joseph, Yeah, 1337 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 10: Kelvin Joseph, So yeah, and I have no argument. 1338 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,839 Speaker 5: I mean, that's what's so interesting about I mean, those 1339 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 5: guys are all bubble guys that I have no problem 1340 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 5: sitting here saying that I have a difficult time picking 1341 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 5: some of these bottom four or five guys from the roster, 1342 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 5: when no other time that I've covered the team have 1343 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 5: I heard as much from the coaches in the front 1344 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 5: office talk about how difficult to me cut this down. 1345 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 5: So this is their full time job what they do. 1346 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 5: Three sixty five and they're having a hard time with it. 1347 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 5: I'm just fine with me having a hard time with it. 1348 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 2: So Beamer, if you could take my camera real quick, 1349 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 2: if you want, I'm going to show you just a 1350 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 2: visual representation of what we kept. 1351 00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 4: I don't know if Beamer is able to thank you keep. 1352 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 10: One of the tourch cameras we got out. 1353 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 4: I don't know which one we get to. 1354 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 10: Are we gonna get to that one right there? 1355 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 8: Yeah? 1356 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you hold it, you hold it up there. 1357 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 2: But you've got you've got the visual representation of what 1358 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 2: the Cowboys are going to take in terms of the roster. 1359 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 4: This is working your seat twenty four. You got the 1360 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 4: one shot on your seat. Oh yeah, there you go. 1361 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 4: There it is so we can do it right there. 1362 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 2: So, uh, three quarterbacks, three running backs, five wide receivers, 1363 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 2: four tight ends, nine offensive linemen to go to twenty 1364 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 2: four offensive players, nine defensive linemen, five linebackers, six corners, 1365 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,640 Speaker 2: six safeties, three special teams, so twenty six on defense 1366 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,240 Speaker 2: and three on special teams and those. 1367 00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 4: That's uh, the visual representation of how we. 1368 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 10: Built headmanship there from you, No thank you. 1369 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,400 Speaker 2: I've been working on the shows to use this for 1370 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,560 Speaker 2: sheet got to got to be able to work on 1371 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 2: it a little bit. 1372 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 7: I just used the roster that we got the press. 1373 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 2: Actually I did the same thing, but I did it 1374 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 2: on on on photo shop to get it to make 1375 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 2: it happen. All Right, that does it for us. You're 1376 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,960 Speaker 2: on Talking Cowboys. We will be back at ten am 1377 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 2: Central time on Wednesday. We'll continue to look at what 1378 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 2: happens with the actual roster cuts. 1379 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 4: Now that we've we've played the. 1380 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,640 Speaker 2: Games ourselves, we'll see just how close we were, and 1381 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 2: of course we'll. 1382 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:16,920 Speaker 4: React to it. 1383 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 6: Actually, we might not be here at ten am on Wednesday's. 1384 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 7: Keep an eye on flexibility if you are trying to. 1385 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 5: Do earlier practice this week so they can actually get 1386 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 5: outside when it's not one hundred and twelve. 1387 00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't blame them, I really don't. 1388 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 8: All right, it's not getting over one hundred. 1389 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know it's not. 1390 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know that. That just I heard in 1391 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 10: the nineties. 1392 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 4: This week, maybe I just had a sweatter weather. 1393 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 10: Playing for a while. Was to have a couple of 1394 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 10: morning practices. 1395 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, because they want to get out on the ground, 1396 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 2: get out out there, natural grass. 1397 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 10: Gosh, Isaiah, Isaiah's never been more disappointed. 1398 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 4: To watching the heat waves in the stretch. Buddy, all right, 1399 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 4: that doesn't for us. 1400 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 2: For Isaiah stand back, Chris Beam in the back, we've 1401 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 2: got John Machoda, Nick Harris, and Kyle Yemens. We'll see 1402 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 2: at some point on Wednesday, but we'll be here with 1403 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,400 Speaker 2: promise on talking Cowboys. 1404 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1405 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.