WEBVTT - Mick Shots: A Good Bye

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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<v Speaker 1>screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys app Some of us are ready for another

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<v Speaker 1>edition of mix Shots. I'm not sure that Mickey is. Hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Hellman looks very relaxed and ready for another edition

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<v Speaker 1>of mix Shots. How you doing, Dave Hellman? I'm doing wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>bill Um. You know, not to make light of the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think the Cowboys are being cautious with the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID protocols, which hasn't left a whole lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>for me to do. So I'm chilling and happy to

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<v Speaker 1>talk some cowboys with y'all. All right, very good. So

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<v Speaker 1>you survived the first your first appearance on mix Shots

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday without incident. It did, Yeah, so we can make

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<v Speaker 1>it through another forty five minutes. HECMA unable to be

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<v Speaker 1>here today, so we will press on for the next

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<v Speaker 1>forty five minutes. And Mickey, you wouldn't believe how many

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<v Speaker 1>notes he has in front of him. This reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>I used to hear stories when Norma Hitskis used to

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<v Speaker 1>do Rangers baseball games. Tom Grieve told me that they

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<v Speaker 1>would have a three man booth. It would be Mark Holtz,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Grieve, and Norma Hitzkis and a space about four

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<v Speaker 1>feet wide, and Hitskis would take up about three feet

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<v Speaker 1>of the four feet with all his notes just all

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<v Speaker 1>taped down. That's what Mickey has right now. I was

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<v Speaker 1>prepared for yesterday because we didn't think you were going

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<v Speaker 1>to be with us, so I was going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to run the show, and I wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I had all my son, you can run this show.

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<v Speaker 1>How about we do that. You're good to go, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>But I had my notes ready in case we ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of things to talk about, as if we would

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<v Speaker 1>run out of things to talk about, right, especially gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say there's no chance of that. Come on right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right in, Dave. But since we last talked, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't you not only don't have a Cowboys game to

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<v Speaker 1>watch this weekend, you don't have an LSU game to

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<v Speaker 1>watch either, LSU Alabama. Uh, it looks like I canceled

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<v Speaker 1>for the whole season now, which is a good year

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<v Speaker 1>for LSU. If if you're not gonna play Alabama one year,

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<v Speaker 1>this would be the year not to play them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I never in my life thought that I would be

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<v Speaker 1>excited that LSU's not gonna play football. But yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday is a lot more free, and I'm not mad

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<v Speaker 1>about it because that was probably gonna be ugly. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Maybe I'll go find a farmer's market

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<v Speaker 1>or a pumpkin patch. I don't I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what people do when there's no foot ball on,

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<v Speaker 1>but I guess I gotta figure it out. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? So how do you fee right behind them too?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they canceled the Missouri Georgia game? Did they really? Yes, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC just canceled the whole weekend. Yeah, it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>basically yeah, Z and M still playing. No, they're yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they got canceled too. They know they do have a

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<v Speaker 1>common open date where they can make it up December twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>because Georgia can't do it. I think there's like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they're worried about right now. But LSU doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about the SEC championship game, so it's okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the uh, the big twelve already, they basically had

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<v Speaker 1>an open date setting their schedule of this week because

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<v Speaker 1>Texas didn't playing OU and OSU play next week Bedlam,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not playing this week. So so anyway, the

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<v Speaker 1>point of all this is what don't we do? What

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to do for football this week? Which

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<v Speaker 1>brings me to my first question out of the shoot

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<v Speaker 1>to both of you, do you, as a as a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the media or as a fan, do you

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<v Speaker 1>like the byeway? No? I don't be guys. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the bye week. I think everybody. I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's this perception out there since the team is off,

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<v Speaker 1>we're off. We still got to do our jo. I

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<v Speaker 1>find myself doing more work during the bye week because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have any subjects with you, right, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>well in your crammy. We still have to do all

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<v Speaker 1>the shows, but we're doing it in four days time

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<v Speaker 1>instead of six days times. People, So at some point

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<v Speaker 1>there will be a light at the end of this tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>But more than that, and I think from a fans' perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I want my Cowboys game on Sunday, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I understand if you look down the schedule here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are off this week. They play on a

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday next week at Minnesota, and then okay, yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>is a Thanksgiving Day game, and there is a Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night game against Baltimore. But three out of the next

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<v Speaker 1>four Sundays the Cowboys don't have a game, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like we're traveling the games, right, yep. I think

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are absolutely and I think y'all are crazy. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you kidding me? The bye week is great. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fair point relax for the first time since

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<v Speaker 1>August fifth, I'm gonna try my best to do nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a little bit different this year because

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<v Speaker 1>you're not traveling. You know, training camp was nowhere near

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<v Speaker 1>as intense this year as it is in a regular year.

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<v Speaker 1>But by the time you get to the bye week,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to just like lie down on my couch

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<v Speaker 1>for like three days. Bill, you make a great point.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of have to cram a lot of work

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<v Speaker 1>into the early part of the week. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about y'all, but when I get done with this show,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of things left to right and

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm gonna try my best to like turn my

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<v Speaker 1>phone off on Thursday and Friday. And as far as

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<v Speaker 1>being a fan, I feel like people people lose sight

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<v Speaker 1>of this. But not playing is great because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>lose when you don't play, so your week's stress free,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're don't have to worry about losing a

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<v Speaker 1>ball game. I can, you know, if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend Sunday making you know, I can spend all day

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<v Speaker 1>making a pot of gumbo if I want to. I

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<v Speaker 1>could go out and visit people I don't. I can

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever I want because I don't have to spend

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours at at and T Stadium. I am firmly

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of it. I'm sorry that y'all are workaholics,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am not. So you'd be in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>going back to having two bye weeks in a season, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>sign me up? Yeah, I mean, and if they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>if they're gonna increase the schedule, you know, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wind up playing eighteen games, I would guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see that. And yeah, I mean, so you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>you know again, Let's let's consider a regular year. You

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<v Speaker 1>report to training camp on like July eighteenth, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season's gonna run until mid January. Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need to bye weeks for the players, but for

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<v Speaker 1>me too. For sure. It just seems like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>week of work without a game, and to me, the

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<v Speaker 1>bonure payoff, the bonus of what we do is we

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<v Speaker 1>get to go cover a game, we get to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a game and watch a game. Now you work

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no bonus at the end. Okay, Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the most important three hours, three and a half

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<v Speaker 1>hours of your week? Yeah? The game. It's the game, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the game. Yeah. So that's a funny thing. You said

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<v Speaker 1>that because my college roommate would get so upset when

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<v Speaker 1>he was trying to write in a press box and

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<v Speaker 1>it was so loud and people after the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>he would scream, these are the three hours that are

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<v Speaker 1>most important to me in my career. Shut the hell up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny. That's like Dave, we were talking about. We

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about the interception that Gilbert threw um in

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<v Speaker 1>the game on Sunday, and Everson was talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>he was yelling at the TV and his wife didn't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why he was yelling, and I did. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on his cow and so on, Sunday, I'm watching the

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<v Speaker 1>game from home, and I'm on my couch watching the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm logging every play, so I'm working as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in I'm yelling at the TV too. At about that

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<v Speaker 1>time that that play happened, my sister in law was

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<v Speaker 1>in town from out of town. I hadn't seen her yet.

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<v Speaker 1>She and my wife and my nephew. They walk into

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<v Speaker 1>the house and I'm totally ignoring them because I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>caught up into this game. And I just explained to him,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most important three hours of my week.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say hello to you after this game was over.

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<v Speaker 1>They went out on the back porch. So, y'all are

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<v Speaker 1>y'all are intense? Man, y'all are not playing games because

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<v Speaker 1>I've never I've never been that guy. Like I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I work better in a noisy, busy environment. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like to have people talking and maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>distracting me, but it just kind of, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>like that background noise kind of helps me focus on

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<v Speaker 1>what I need to do. However, I think boys game

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<v Speaker 1>is more like work. Don't try to don't try to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me during an LSU game. I will say

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<v Speaker 1>that that's that's a whole different person than what I

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<v Speaker 1>am on Sundays, So I guess I identify with that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all I know is I remember the two bye weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>That was what was it two seasons maybe like in

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineties. It was like ninety maybe, okay, eighty

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<v Speaker 1>nine somewhere now, I think it was ninety nine one

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. And you know where you're working for

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<v Speaker 1>the newspaper. The newspaper doesn't take a bye, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have something in there and people, yeah, absolutely, all

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<v Speaker 1>right before we get uh oh, I just let I

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<v Speaker 1>hear everything y'all are saying. And obviously we do this

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<v Speaker 1>job because we love it. I love covering the games,

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<v Speaker 1>but covering a game is a ten hour experience, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a okay not you know, getting a week where

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have to do that, and I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to leave my apartment if I don't want too. I

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<v Speaker 1>can channel surf during the other NFL games and see

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on there. I'm I am just fine hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out on my couch this weekend. I get it ten hours.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to fire up the smoker on Saturday. All right, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, all right. The NFL was yesterday, today's Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>So they did it yesterday. The decision if there is

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<v Speaker 1>a weekend or games lost where they cannot be made

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<v Speaker 1>up to have the expanded playoff field sixteen team playoff field.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you your thoughts on that. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>they were very serious about doing it. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>has to get okayed by the nfl PA. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>more the merrier, let's go it. It sort of worked

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<v Speaker 1>so the couples more closer to the playoffs, right yutely,

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, but as I pointed out yesterday, there's fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>teams in this league right now have no more than

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<v Speaker 1>three wins, right, so you know there could be a

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<v Speaker 1>fight to the finish to get to six. I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to be a cynic. I hate to be a cynic.

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<v Speaker 1>But do we think it really affects the Dallas Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>because I think, yeah, it's still they either got to

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<v Speaker 1>win the East. Yeah, they got to win the East.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's the East or bust. Well, and yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>not a wild card coming out of the East. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember where I say this stuff, And Dave you

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<v Speaker 1>stopped me if I said it yesterday after Bill left

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But the Cowboys only have one more game

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<v Speaker 1>against the team with a winning record Baltimore. Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying teams of their own six and one

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<v Speaker 1>as a possibility. I didn't say they're going to win

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<v Speaker 1>every one of them because they putting beat Washington, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say they've gotten their butts kicked by a

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<v Speaker 1>few teams of their own ELK too, So yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least some of them. I mean Washington's really did

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure where Arizona is. I lost track to them.

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<v Speaker 1>They're winning and then no, what Arizona's like five and three?

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<v Speaker 1>I really didn't get their butts kicked by Philadelphia until

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to return the fumble that wasn't that

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<v Speaker 1>was recovered before they recovered it and ran for a touchdown?

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<v Speaker 1>Or am I getting my games mixed? Right? So now

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. So you're right, and Philadelphia has one more

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<v Speaker 1>win than the Cowboys, that's right. It's gonna be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, your your logic is sound, but I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>see a little bit more to believe it, because we

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<v Speaker 1>got to see someone, you know, Yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>two and seven team. Yeah, you're right, all right? Mickey,

0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:45.000
<v Speaker 1>what's on how many legal pads you have in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you? There? So I just got they all looked

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<v Speaker 1>like but I didn't put it. So I had to

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<v Speaker 1>give me one thing. Give us, give us one topic.

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<v Speaker 1>We can go, take us to break. We can go

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<v Speaker 1>to break on this. How about this? So it's Veterans Day? Right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, good one? All right? How about this?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a letter dated April seventeenth of nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>five the Army Department. We sent this letter to you

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<v Speaker 1>to my dad's mother, okay, all right, And they had

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<v Speaker 1>sent a previous letter to her when he was missing

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<v Speaker 1>in action. Okay, So she responded wanting more information. So

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<v Speaker 1>it happened in at the Battle of the Bulge, which

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<v Speaker 1>I think was like the end of December. It was

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<v Speaker 1>around right after Christmas, because I remember seeing when I

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<v Speaker 1>saw the movie there was snow on the ground or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had been missing. And so she sends a

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<v Speaker 1>letter back to the Military Department whatever it is, and

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<v Speaker 1>on April seventeenth, she gets this letter back. Dear Missus Spagnola,

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<v Speaker 1>your letter inquiring about your son Dominic has been referred

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<v Speaker 1>to this office for disposition. It has been carefully read,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will keep We will attempt to answer all

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<v Speaker 1>your questions. Your son Dominic was missing in action in

0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.760
<v Speaker 1>Germany on the twenty first January nineteen forty five. During

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<v Speaker 1>an attack on a fortified position. On twenty one January

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty five, a number of men in the battalion

0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:33.120
<v Speaker 1>were moving toward a German town, this being their objective

0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.200
<v Speaker 1>company being met enemy opposition and was cut off from

0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.000
<v Speaker 1>their other supporting units, but it was impossible to reach them,

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<v Speaker 1>although communication by radio was maintained for a period of

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours. It is assumed that the men, including

0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.880
<v Speaker 1>your son, were taken prisoner, but as yet no word

0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.200
<v Speaker 1>has been received by this headquarter. How would you like

0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to be a parent of a child during World War two?

0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's the letter you get. They have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>where they're at. He had been a prisoner of war

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<v Speaker 1>from January to a week after this letter arrived. He

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<v Speaker 1>was liberated a week later, and they had no idea

0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:23.640
<v Speaker 1>where they were. Wow. So my sister dug this out

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<v Speaker 1>and sent it to me, and I've kind of hung

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<v Speaker 1>onto it and I said what am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>do with this? Right? And I was like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Veterans Day. Maybe because I heard some people reading letters

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<v Speaker 1>today about their fathers or what they sent back home

0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:42.080
<v Speaker 1>or their grandfathers. Probably mostly. And yeah, a week later,

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<v Speaker 1>he was liberated after four months in being moved from

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<v Speaker 1>prison camp to prison camp because they had to keep

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<v Speaker 1>him on the move because the Germans were retreating so

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<v Speaker 1>and they would they would basically blindfold him and put

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<v Speaker 1>them in the railroad cars so no one knew where

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<v Speaker 1>they were going, so they couldn't like have any espionage

0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:06.960
<v Speaker 1>and let somebody know where they were. So yeah, quite

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<v Speaker 1>an experience. But he was liberated, got back too. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they got back to England and at a whole

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five pounds. Wow. They didn't feed them. They were

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<v Speaker 1>eating potatoes. Probably I saw it when he was his

0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:31.640
<v Speaker 1>induction papers. He was like one hundred and forty, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how about that man. They were eating potato skins before

0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:39.160
<v Speaker 1>potato skins were appetizers because they had to peel the

0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.480
<v Speaker 1>potatoes in the prison camps for the Germans that they

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<v Speaker 1>would cook the potatoes and leave them with the skins.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're sitting here a nice dose of perspective. Yeah,

0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:57.080
<v Speaker 1>we're sitting there talking to complaining about the cowboy gay buds. Yeah, yeah, thanks, Yeah,

0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, that's something that's a hell of a perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciated they had no game whatsoever. Right, good gracious

0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:08.560
<v Speaker 1>wow it wanted answered P, I mean for your your grandmother,

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<v Speaker 1>and answered. All I got to say is I keep

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<v Speaker 1>telling people I'm like the miracle baby that he survived

0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that um and and and I also had a purple

0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.280
<v Speaker 1>heart too. He got wounded at one point. At one point.

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<v Speaker 1>And to answer your question of when the Battle of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bulge occurred, December sixteenth, nineteen forty four, is when

0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:38.200
<v Speaker 1>the counter offensive began and ended January twenty fifth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. Yeah, like one week in two days, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like the turning point of World War two,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the European. Uh continent. Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you found good use yes for mix shots there a

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<v Speaker 1>salute to our salute to our veterans. Wow uh As

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<v Speaker 1>Dave said that that real puts it in perspective, and

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<v Speaker 1>we would not be able to do any of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing right now if not for all those veterans

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<v Speaker 1>out there. So a salute to all of you. And

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<v Speaker 1>at nine o'clock Central Time on c MT. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>know the reason for that, Mickey? The reason that the

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<v Speaker 1>the most competitive yet because it was virtual? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>judging this year? No? I did not report. My world

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to have been gone at that time. So

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<v Speaker 1>now that weekend is already booked when they were going

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<v Speaker 1>to have them here? Or was it? Or was what?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was it I'm saying? Or was it? Because everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>plans got thrown out the window. Yeah, so it turned

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<v Speaker 1>out it wasn't booked. It wasn't I was booked at

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans. Yeah, did it happened though, No, it did

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock Central time on c MT. Let's see today's the eleventh.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a Tuesday, November twenty fourth. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out. I've got family coming into town

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:34.439
<v Speaker 1>on that Tuesday, and so now I know what we

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<v Speaker 1>will be watching on Tuesday night Central Time. People watched

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.440
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Yeah, I'll use it like an eight week

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 1>series or whatever. I was at a Star game, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the premiere. I was at a Stars game one night.

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<v Speaker 1>I was walking down towards my seat and this lady

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<v Speaker 1>looked at me and she goes, I know who you are?

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.520
<v Speaker 1>And I go, who am I? She goes, You're that

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<v Speaker 1>judge on the Cheerleader show. That's like, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>be known for something, right, Dave you SEC guy Verne

0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Lundquist the long time voice of the SEC until this,

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.440
<v Speaker 1>uh retirement from that. All right, the famous story you

0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>may have heard, the famous story that Verne used to say,

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<v Speaker 1>going to a game in college station and getting and

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<v Speaker 1>getting gas and someone comes up to him and says,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you. I know you. You're the bowling for

0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>dollars guy. That's right. Yeah. I actually met him at

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<v Speaker 1>the I met him at the local Emmy Award show

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<v Speaker 1>like two years ago. I felt bad because I told

0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>him he was the voice of my childhood. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he appreciated somebody telling him that he was

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<v Speaker 1>that old. It's one thing, Dad, it's one thing for

0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>you to tell him that he's the voice of your childhood.

0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I would tell him the same thing, he was the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of my childhood too. I would probably really offend

0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 1>That would really offend him. But yeah, and uh, channel

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 1>light back long long time ago before I got here,

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 1>he was doing no man, he was the time I

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.399
<v Speaker 1>got here. He was he was the greatest, but all

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:11.919
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that made and it's not like

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:15.720
<v Speaker 1>a eulogees doing, but one of the things that made

0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Verne so great. And I loved him obviously calling Cowboys

0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>games as well. But he was so relaxed on the air,

0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.359
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and he would probably admit it to

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<v Speaker 1>this day. There would be flub ups on the air,

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>there would be mistakes that were made, but he would

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<v Speaker 1>just carry on, you know, and he'd laugh at it

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and just having a sense of humor, just to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to laugh at himself. Well, I screwed that up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was when Dave when we saw him

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<v Speaker 1>at the at the Emmy's here locally, and uh I

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<v Speaker 1>told him, I said, you know, Verne, I said, My

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<v Speaker 1>greatest memory of you is after the last preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>a home game. It was always at Texas Stadium and

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.359
<v Speaker 1>the press box there had a kind of a common

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>area behind where the writers were. We were in the

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<v Speaker 1>press box writing and he and his wife tech Shram

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and his wife Marty, they would get together. There's an

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.480
<v Speaker 1>open bar, right, they got a bar in there, and

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the guy's making drinks and Texas drinking his bullshots and

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're loud right there. I could hear Verne's voice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there trying on deadline to finish the story

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:25.240
<v Speaker 1>and they're loud. And I told him I used to

0:24:25.240 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>get so mad at you, and he just start laughing.

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:29.679
<v Speaker 1>He goes, yeah, I bet because we were having a

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<v Speaker 1>good time, right. And after the last, the last preseason game,

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.439
<v Speaker 1>they would put a pool together and you had to

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you had to predict the Cowboys fifty three man roster, right,

0:24:41.480 --> 0:24:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and we're sitting there going, how are we gonna be texts?

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>He should know already, right, And the only person they

0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>trusted with the ballots was Texas wife Marty. Marty would

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 1>take the ballots. Everybody put their money in and then

0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:56.400
<v Speaker 1>we see who had the most, and then they would

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>win the pot. But that was a big deal. It was.

0:24:59.359 --> 0:25:02.359
<v Speaker 1>It was amazing. And now that we mentioned Verne and

0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I think about the Masters, that's what takes care of

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>our weekend. That's the Masters starts tomorrow. So there you go.

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>And in fact, I've actually used the line from Verne

0:25:12.600 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 1>on last night's sportscast on CBS eleven. Did you see

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>the skip shot holding one by John Rom and I

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<v Speaker 1>it was on sixteen, and of course Verne was always

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 1>on sixteen at the Masters, and so I was trying

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.600
<v Speaker 1>to remember the great calls, so many great calls that

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Verne lunk was made at the Master's and elsewhere. And

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, Okay, what's that call that he had

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.080
<v Speaker 1>when Tiger when the on the chip in on sixteen,

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 1>when you see the Nike logo and the and so

0:25:42.920 --> 0:25:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I looked it up, and so I used it last

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 1>night on the chip in shot by Rom And I said,

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I if we only had Vern here to exclaim, have

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you ever seen a shot like that in your life?

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:00.879
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't a chip in. It was a drive

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>over the water, right, well it was you know, it's practice. Yeah,

0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>but but anyway, skip like twice on the water. All right? Yes,

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I understand. At the end of the show yesterday you

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 1>were talking quarterbacks. We were talking quarterbacks, and we had

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>we really only had a couple of minutes to discuss

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>which way they should go. Uh does it go back

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 1>to Dalton? Do you want to give Gilbert some some

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 1>more time? And um, it was a very short discussion.

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:37.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember what those guys said. I think. I said, um,

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, go with Dalton until you know for sure

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it's over, if you don't know already, and then give

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert basically a four game interview for the backup job

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>next year, because Dalton's on a one year deal, right,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And then his assumption was he was coming here for

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>one year because of the pandemic, want to move his

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>family with an idea of latching on with somebody next

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>year where he'd have a chance to either start or

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>compete for a starting job. So if that's his goal,

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and if that's still what he wants to do, then

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>you're going to need a backup quarterback next year. And

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that Ben d Nucci would be ready.

0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>So I think what we saw from Garrett Gilbert, I

0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>think he'd be candidate number one. What are you thinking, Dave?

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I actually I completely agree with everything Mickey just said.

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I feel like people, you know, and I get it.

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>The season feels like it's over from a competitive standpoint

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to the fans, but the reality is that it's not.

0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, the NFC East is terrible, They're mathematically still alive,

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and Andy Dalton gives you the best chance to be

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>competitive in that scenario. On top of that, maybe people

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want to hear this. I think it's only fair. Yeah,

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>Andy stayed here partially because of the pandemic, but this

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>is also an opportunity for him to say it up

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.199
<v Speaker 1>the next act of his career. I mean, if he

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>wants to keep playing football two, three, four or five,

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, good games of tape could go a long

0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.200
<v Speaker 1>way toward getting him a new deal in a new city.

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>So I think he deserves that opportunity. He's earned it

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 1>over the last decade in the league. And you know

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>they're two and seven right now. If they're three and

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>ten in a month, then you've still got three games

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>where you can put Garrett Gilbert in there and see

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 1>what he can do. So I don't see the downside

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 1>of letting Andy Dalton try to keep it competitive for

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the time being. And you know what his incentives on

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>his contract have to do with percentage of games played,

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>which if he went the rest of the way he

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>would accomplish, And it's percentage of games played plus the

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:51.680
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys making the playoffs. So I'm getting his mind he

0:28:51.720 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't care if they make it at six and ten

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 1>or seven and nine. If he makes the playoffs. I

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's like and he plays I think more than

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 1>fifty percent of the snaps. Uh, it's a five hundred

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars bonus, and if they win the game, it's

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a million dollar bonus. So in his mind, by golly,

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you better give me that chance. All right, and let

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.160
<v Speaker 1>me ask you this, Okay, with the state of the

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys offensive line, all right, there's there's a perception about

0:29:18.800 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton, a recent perception about Andy Dalton because of

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>what was going on in Cincinnati and what was the

0:29:26.160 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>state of their offensive line, then their receivers and then

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>without Green. Take it back to when Dak gets hurt

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and he did lead a drive that won the game

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the game and made a couple

0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>of throws there. Okay, Now the next week they're playing

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>an Arizona team that ran them out of the building.

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Basically it was thirty one to three. Yeah, at halftime,

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe it wasn't the Dalton faults something like that, you know,

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>a couple of Zeke fumbles. They had to throw the

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:01.760
<v Speaker 1>ball fifty four times in that game. And then what

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>happened next week he got hurt and it was but

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>what was going on with the offensive who was playing

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>right guard. Yeah, Zack Martin was hurt and so McGovern

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 1>was making his NFL date right, And you can point

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the one sack that stands out in my memory of

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 1>that game. It was a blitzing Cole Holcomb coming up

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 1>right where the right guard Connor McGovern was who he

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.960
<v Speaker 1>took the safety instead of the linebacker and Zeke couldn't

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>get over to get the linebacker. Could have got the

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 1>safety on the blitz. But otherwise with that offensive line,

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>they were throwing everything at Dalton. So let's let's see

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 1>now the offensive line, although it still makeshift, has been

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>together for a little bit and there's more of an opportunity. Plus,

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I think coming off the Dak injury, I mean just

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>the whole mental state of this football team at that point,

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>having lost Dak, I think that contributed a lot too

0:30:56.600 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to what happened the next week against Arizona. And I

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>think the injuries in the offensive line contributed to what

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 1>happened in Washington more than anything. And to both of

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>your points, there's still plenty of time left in the

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>season to see what's going on here with with both

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and Gary Gilbert, I mean take nothing

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.240
<v Speaker 1>away from what he was able to do on three

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>days practice last week. Um, you know, it's uh, he

0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>has been a journeyman in this league for he's not

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not like he's twenty four, twenty five years old, right,

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>like they just discovered this guy. I think I think

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.960
<v Speaker 1>there's a perception out there. Let's let's see the young guy.

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, well, the young guy turns thirty next year,

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>so and and and then the other part of it

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>is what realistically is the market going to be for

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton as a starting quarterback in this league next year?

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, let's say that he is, he's competent, he

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.520
<v Speaker 1>does a good job, it's not overwhelming, and you know

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't do it pull o' ryan Tannehill and they

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.360
<v Speaker 1>win seven straight games to wrap it up. Then then

0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the market obviously is gonna be great for him next year.

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>But let's say they go five hundred or so the

0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>rest of the year, What really is the market for

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton? Is he gonna he would have an opportunity

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to compete someplace, probably, but his best opportunity might be here. No,

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you're right, and think about it. And I just saw

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>that mel Kiper has his big board for twenty twenty

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 1>one out already, right, But there's gonna be three quarterbacks

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>go high in the draft, right, So that means teams

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>quarterback that's where they're going. So there's three right off

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the board there if they do what Cincinnati and said, Okay,

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>we're going with our young guy, let's go forward. So

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that's three teams right there. I don't know if we

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>want to count him up who it is, but I mean,

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's almost like Andy has got to the point

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>in his career unless he, you know, dis placed lights out,

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 1>he's he's probably you know, he might have an opportunity

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>if he knows the offense. It's a coordinator, there's a

0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>comfort level there. Whatever. He could have an opportunity else where,

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.280
<v Speaker 1>but he might have just as good an opportunity to

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>make decent money here at home where he's got family

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. On another one year deal, we see, you know,

0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>so he could very well be the backup and you

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>feel good about Andy Dalton being your backup quarterback. Absolutely

0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>have a have a veteran guy. I mean, think about

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>but think it's not a bad point. Think about what

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert did. When's the last time a Cowboys backup quarterback

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 1>when not counting Dak starting the season. Right, went in

0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the season and had a game

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>like that, I got to go to Romo. Now, well

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I've been here Romo in two thousand and six. Yeah. Yeah,

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>And his debut wasn't anywhere close to that, right because

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>his first pass was intercepted. As Jerry reminded, everybody, think

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>about this with Gary Gilbert, where would his career be

0:33:56.840 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>right now? If the pandemic hadn't happened. Would he have

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>even been on a roster this year? He was playing

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:10.399
<v Speaker 1>last year in the Alliance of American Football. Right. The

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 1>fact that you can have veterans on your practice squad

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>this year was the main reason that he was still

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>on a team this year. But he had played with

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Cleveland as a backup last year. He had, but he

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>was on their practice squad at the time that the

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys picked him up, so he would have been here.

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>He could have backed now they used that. Now they

0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>may have done that, and because they had the ability

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>to the roster, right, but there's it's possible that he

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 1>might have been out on the street they were banking

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.280
<v Speaker 1>on he could they could stash him on the practice squad.

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>No one would sign him, right, and then here come

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<v Speaker 1>It's one too many dots in there, all right, Mickey

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<v Speaker 1>or something you wanted to get to just kick off

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<v Speaker 1>Texans let go their vice president of communications Amy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's pulsic. She was told the report said that

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<v Speaker 1>she no longer was a cultural fit for the organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever in the world. That means when minority parties and

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<v Speaker 1>women are getting opportunities to get hired in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>because they're trying to be more diverse in their hirings,

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 1>she gets fired because she wasn't a cultural fit. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was assuming it's by the guy they brought in

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of take over the organization after the owner

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<v Speaker 1>passed away, fired Brian Gaine as the GM fired the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, Bill O'Brien. Now it's going right down the

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<v Speaker 1>chain and fired their vice president of the Communications and

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<v Speaker 1>all you gotta do is go online and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of writers around the country in and uproar. She

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty good, Dave, as I remember when they were

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<v Speaker 1>here in twenty seventeen for the her I was gonna say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I briefly remember meeting her when they were staying with

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<v Speaker 1>us during Hurricane Harvey, and she seemed like a consummate

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<v Speaker 1>professional to me. I'm stealing this joke from Twitter, but

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>you're right. I mean, every influential voice in the NFL

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>is just horrified that this happened. So maybe the cultural

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>fit is that she's very, very good at her job

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 1>and the Texans are an inept mess and that's just

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't want any winners in that building.

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess, I don't know. Somebody wrote suggested this is

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 1>the best thing to happen to her because now she

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<v Speaker 1>could go to an organization that has some culture, and

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<v Speaker 1>as Adam Schefter pointed out, she was the first and

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<v Speaker 1>only woman to have full PR responsibilities for an NFL team,

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the winner of the twenty seventeen Roselle Award for Best

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>PR Staff, and that was that year when they were

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 1>they got they couldn't get back to Houston, so they

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>came here to Dallas. They practiced for three days, I think,

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 1>and the idea was the preseason game that was supposed

0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to be played in Houston was going to be played

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>at at and T Stadium, And then they set up

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<v Speaker 1>that whole charity thing bill you remember, ended up being

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<v Speaker 1>a fundraiser, and at the last submitted on Wednesday, they

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<v Speaker 1>found out that they were going to be let back

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<v Speaker 1>into Houston. So they kind of went got up and

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>took off, and all that charity stuff was going to

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>go down to drain. But the Cowboys said, oh no,

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.319
<v Speaker 1>we'll just have an open night and do a fundraiser

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>a telethon and ended up raising a whole bunch of

0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 1>money if I remember correctly. All right, let's go, let's

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:28.280
<v Speaker 1>dive further into you want to talk punter punter? All right, Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>might we sign on another punter? Right? They worked out

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 1>they were supposed to work out a couple of guys.

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>And the idea is the fact that you know, Hunter,

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the punter, nice wander, you know, has the job. But

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you got when you only have one position that only

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>has one person, you got to be careful with the

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>COVID stuff, especially when you get two games in the

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>span of five days coming up right exactly, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you bring if something happens to him and you got

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 1>to bring somebody in, it's a six day or deal

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>to get through the COVID protocols testing. You wouldn't have

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy in in time. So I think they decided

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 1>we better put somebody on the practice squad, and so

0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if they do that. They don't have to

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 1>do it till well. If they sign a guy and

0:41:16.080 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>if they want them on the practice squad next week,

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>they got to get going now. Although you know, I

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 1>guess you could get tested because they're not allowing the

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 1>players into the building thanks to the what's is the

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>guy's name? Vance McDonald. Yes, Vance McDonald tested positive to

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>tight end for the Steelers, and when they got back

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and tested on Monday, and then caused the Steelers to

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>put four other guys, including Roethlisberger, on the contact tracing

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:52.359
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen lists, and they can't be back in the

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:56.959
<v Speaker 1>building I think until Saturday. So you know the ideas well,

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I get back on Saturday. They're playing Roethlisberger on Sunday,

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 1>but that could have happened to the Cowboys. So this

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>might be the most fortunate by the Cowboys have ever had.

0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Couldn't become in a better time because they probably would

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>have been told you can't practice on you know, you

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>got to wait three days. You're not going to be

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 1>able to practice on Wednesday for sure. That's why today's

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>practice was canceled. And so yeah, and what if they

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 1>had a person, you know, test positive, then you would

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 1>have to shut the place down. So yeah, this stuff is,

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it's growing, and it's even more serious now than it

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>has been in the summer. Yeah about that. Just take

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>a look at college football, right, I just saw how

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>stayed in Maryland canceled for this weekend. I'll be interested

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 1>to see if Notre Dame plays after they stormed the

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>field there By the way, yesterday I was talking about

0:42:55.680 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys in the possibility could the Cowboys have contracted

0:43:01.000 --> 0:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>COVID from Vince McDonald whatever, And I said highly unlikely,

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>not because of what I said on the podcast yesterday,

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 1>but by doctor friend who I was quoting on that,

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.839
<v Speaker 1>he just happened to text me last night because he's

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>heard about the story and everything. He said, it's unlikely

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>any of the Cowboys will get COVID from Sunday's game.

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>Their exposure fails the times the time or times distance

0:43:29.280 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>times dose test. But you know what locker rooms are like,

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.880
<v Speaker 1>and with the teammate from the Steelers perspective, the teammate

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 1>being on the team bus, I mean that can be

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>more of a location where you could contract it. And

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>so that that is why we haven't seen there's no

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.560
<v Speaker 1>documented cases of athletes catching it from an opponent on

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the playing field. So you're you're saying Donovan Wilson is

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>okay with that one tackle time McDonald's ball. Yeah, well,

0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it. That's what my doctor friends are saying.

0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, for whatever that's worth, it's it's it's more

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>in the bars that it's the problem. Yeah, and the

0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>dormitories and the fat house. Yeah yeah. All right, we

0:44:18.239 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta like a minute left on this edition of mix Shots.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:24.720
<v Speaker 1>How do we want to spend this minute? Oh boy,

0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Dave Hellman, do you have a parting mix shot that

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you would like to give? Do I have a parting

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.799
<v Speaker 1>mix shot? Um? Hey, let me throw this out before

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you do it. Ye did Tack McKinley clear waivers. We

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>will know that in about We will know that in

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 1>about forty five minutes. Right, yeah, that's right now. The Falcons.

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>The Falcons took their time putting him on waivers. Hasn't

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:53.239
<v Speaker 1>gone through the system yesterday then okay, right, no, um,

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.799
<v Speaker 1>we'll find out. Oh yeah, so no, I was just

0:44:57.840 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna say, hey, Mick, I really, I mean, that was

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 1>cool that you read that letter. I was actually I

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:06.400
<v Speaker 1>was listening to a podcast about the world wars this morning,

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and like I said, it's a healthy dose of perspective.

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>That was really cool. I appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah. There's

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>a few things that we have left over from his

0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 1>service duty, but most of them it's not like he

0:45:21.719 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of memorabilia because when you're a prisoner

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of war, they basically take everything from you. So you know,

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 1>he's got a shirt afterwards and a hat and that

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:37.280
<v Speaker 1>was about it. So but very fortunate to come back alive.

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm fortunate too. All right. Well, that does it

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 1>for this edition, a Veteran's Day edition of mix Shots,

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 1>and we are off until next week now, Monday, Tuesday.

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 1>I forgot what day we're starting back up again. And

0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys y'all find a way to enjoy your damn

0:45:59.160 --> 0:46:02.400
<v Speaker 1>bye weekend. Don't so sad that you don't have to work.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I know I'm going to be watching the Masters on CBS.

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>We can pay attention to that. That's exactly right, all right,

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>Dave Helmett, it's been fun. Good to have you Dave

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>with us. It was yeah, this was great, Thanks guys,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, and for Mickey Spagnolne, Bill Jones, and we

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 1>will see you next week here on Mick Shots. Have

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>a great buye weekend, everybody. This has been a production

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<v Speaker 1>of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.