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That's want to make 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:26.160 sure we don't forget our buddy Dale. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:27.760 Oh, I'm glad that you reminded me. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.319 Yes, this is really cool, A. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.000 Pretty cool honor for Dale in terms of something that 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.720 was very near and dear to his heart. Pony League 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:37.920 is the correct name for it. 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:39.120 Yeah, I can actually read. 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.720 I can read it right now on because there's like 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:42.720 the Little League and then there's the Pony League, but 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.640 it's one of the major youth baseball organizations. 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.040 Yeah, he was very, very involved with the Pony World Series, 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:53.280 which takes place in Washington County. Right. I think he 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.440 started doing it when his son, who was an excellent 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:59.000 baseball player, was in the Ponies, and then he just 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.880 kept coaching catch coke joaching involved, helped pick the teams, 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.080 all those type of things. So this year's Washington County 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:11.920 World Series jerseys proudly feature the initials F D L 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.480 in honor of people probably don't know this. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.959 I was gonna say it's something that he wasn't crazy about. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.639 There, right, because it's not even on there. His first 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:24.000 name starts with an F, and Dale is actually his 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:28.480 middle name, So like Rob calls him Forrest FDL Lawley, 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.360 but his first name was Forrest and he wasn't big 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.600 on that. So but there are gonna be fdl's on 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.960 the the World Series jerseys for the Pony League. So 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.400 that's really cool, very cool in a and they're like 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.639 prominently displayed. I mean they're right over you know, right 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.440 right down the middle there. So he did a ton 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:46.279 for him. 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:46.799 He sure did. 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.680 And I think anybody who listened to this show over 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.240 the years right knew how much Dale loved baseball, how 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:51.840 much that was his. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.320 First love was baseball and basketball were his things. Absolutely 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.840 absolutely stumbled into the Steelers beat. I guess the observer 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.919 guy retired like they want this, and he's like, I 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.880 guess I'll handle it. Yeah, he did that and outdoors 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:05.840 and boom. It was a good deal for him. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.399 Sure was was a big A's fan growing up. Yeah, 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.400 and just loved baseball, like you said, Even after his 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.240 sons moved on, he devoted a ton of time coaching 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:17.800 in those pony leagues. It was something he had a 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:22.000 real passion for. They unveiled a memorial bench for him 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.400 at the field. That was I think earlier in the summer, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.960 right yep, And then yeah, today getting word that Washington 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.080 County's World Series jerseys proudly featured the initials FDL in 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:34.160 honor of the late F. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:34.920 Dale Lawley. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.280 Dale was a longtime member of the Washington Youth Baseball Council, 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.520 serving for many years as Pony President. He played a 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.440 pivotal role in the creation of the Founders League, the 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.560 county wide league from which the Washington County World Series 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.160 team is selected. A respected sports journalist, Dale spent the 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:54.200 majority of his career covering the Pittsburgh Steelers, earning the 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.480 admiration of colleagues and readers alike. He passed away shortly 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.440 after the twenty twenty five Pony League World Series, but 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:03.520 his passion for youth baseball and unwavering dedication to the 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:07.520 Washington County baseball community continues to leave a lasting legacy. 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.520 Very cool, very cool, and well and well deserved. And yeah, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.240 we had said that, we wanted to mention that. 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.280 And there were many times we were like on the 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.919 air and his phone to be blowing up because they'd 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.039 be like we don't know any catchers equipment at this 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:24.039 or like nobody lined the fields and blow or of 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:24.960 an umpire. You know. 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.320 I remember the early, you know, my first year or 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.640 two with the company, when I was still doing a 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.360 lot of producing stuff, and I would produce you and 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:35.520 Dale fairly fairly regularly on the drive, and there'd be 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.800 a lot of times where you know, that's six o'clock 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.040 time would hit for the last segment and he'd be 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:41.600 like cooking it out the door because he's like, I 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.240 gotta make it the practice and yeah, forty five minutes, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.960 you know or whatever. Yeah, it was something he had 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.480 a real passion for. And again, anyone who who listened 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:49.920 to him over the years, I think that was pretty 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.240 evident in a well deserved honor. 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:52.920 I always think about it in this time of year two, 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.400 Like many times, even just him and I sitting at 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.920 Sharky's watching baseball, usually the Pirates, and I was always 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:00.600 out of the loop, and the Pirates were very good, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.920 and you know, he was super into it, and he'd 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:04.400 always be like, how do you miss that cut of 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.080 all the fundamental stuff used to make him crazy, you know, like, yes, 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.440 you gotta hit that cutoff, guy or why are you 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.320 in this position? Or bunt the dude over, you know, 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.480 blah blah blah, like managing through it. And I was 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:16.200 learned a lot from him, but real, real quick note, 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.200 hope this isn't too out of line. But he took 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.280 pride in it. But the day he got his vasectomy, 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:23.560 he pitched batting practice. 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.239 Oh jeez. 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:26.320 And he's like, I didn't plan on it, but we 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.159 had nobody to do it, and so sucked it up. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.000 That's the least surprising thing. 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.440 Yeah, I don't think you're making that up. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.840 I know I don't. I don't either. And if there 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.080 was anybody who would do it, it. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.239 Was Dale Line drive up the middle. 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:45.200 Oh, that guy was just you used to you said this. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:46.160 He was a bulldog. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.000 He just nothing could get his way of accomplishing what 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:49.839 needed accomplished. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.120 Throughout the day, I think somebody canceled and he's like, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:52.640 I'll do it. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.760 Whether whether it was his job with the Steelers and 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.800 covering the team from beat side, whether it was this, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:03.680 whether it was his his passion for for for youth baseball. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:05.800 If Dale wanted to do it, he was getting it done. 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:05.960 Man. 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:08.520 Nothing nothing was getting in his way. And yeah, very 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.400 very cool and richly deserved honor for him and for 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:12.279 his family. 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:14.040 That was shocked to see that this morning, his wife 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:15.320 put it on Facebook. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:16.719 You and I both saw that. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:18.040 It was like what we first said to each other 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:19.600 when we when we walked in here today. And I'm 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.640 glad you reminded me too, to make sure that we 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:22.159 mentioned that. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:23.480 Matt. 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.920 I guess there's no real easy way to transition out 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.760 of that, but maybe the one way to transition out 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.840 of it is is something that Dale had the honor 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:31.599 of doing a couple of times, was, of course, being 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.440 the Steelers representative who gets to go to Canton. For 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.960 those who are unfamiliar, this is how this works. When 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.159 a player is up for induction into the Hall of Fame, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.560 someone someone has to represent you, and it's it's someone 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:47.280 from your city's media landscape, like. 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.440 I just found out the other night that Jerry Dulac 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.320 is now in charge. Edett did it, did it forever, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.880 and Dale did it. I think I don't know why 0:06:54.960 --> 0:06:56.559 Ed couldn't do it a couple of years, but Dale 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.280 had that honor help get Troy in. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.200 And help get Troy in, and I think Fanic as 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:00.640 well too. 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:04.359 Maybe maybe while Dale was involved there, Matt, we do 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.679 know that obviously with the Hall of Fame game tonight, 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.720 there's a new class going in this weekend and. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.040 Super super quick. Yeah, I'm sure that's a fine system, 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.280 but there has to be a better one. But like, 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:18.960 like this will definitely hurt Antonio Brown, Like, who's going 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:19.920 to stand on the table for him? 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.040 I think that's the reason that someone like t O 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.760 had to wait to get that. That's he's going to 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:25.840 stand on the table for him. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.360 Because not to mention like t O's last eight years 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.400 were like Philly since he you know, like if you 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:35.040 move around a lot, I don't think that helps your cause. Nowadays, 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.720 certainly the guy better be pretty passionate to get you in, 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.320 unless you're Aaron Donald or Mahomes or you cut right. 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:43.680 Yeah, I imagine Dale didn't have to do a ton of. 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.360 Heavy lifting to get Troy Paula Mallow into But they're 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.480 not all that easy. They're not all slam dunks. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.760 Like oh, I used to bust his stones. We're talking 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:52.480 about Dalel Stones. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.600 I'm like, oh, justin make that the title of this 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:57.800 hour on the podcast. 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:00.480 I'm like, you got Troy and okay, you know that's 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.160 really not that hard, dude, but you were. I think 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.040 I think it took him two tries to get fanick 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.960 at him. Yes, come on, man, right, exactly right right, 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.640 I can get t get Troy. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:12.440 Matt with that. 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.200 Of course everyone has started to you know, uh, this 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:19.400 weekend's class, Drew Brees, Roger Clegg, Craig, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keigley, 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:20.240 Adam Vineri. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.880 Everyone has started reminds me of the too everything. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:26.360 Everything's coming up bail today. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:28.440 He would have been literally about a kicker getting in 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.600 the other guys I think pretty deserving though, certainly Breeze 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.320 Breeze Fits and Keikley. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.280 That's a heck, they're easy one. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:35.640 That's a heck of a trio right there. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:38.199 Years criminal with that. 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.920 Matt predictions on NFL dot Com of who will be 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.120 next year twenty seven. 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.280 That's a real good class. Let's go through it. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:52.120 Yeah, here's who they have as their five. Willie Anderson, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.360 offensive tackle for the Bengals and the Ravens. 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.920 He's been looming for a really long time. I think 0:08:57.960 --> 0:08:59.120 he's going to be all over. 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.839 Five to straight years as a finalist, So next year 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.839 would be six. Rob Gronkowski tight end. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.160 Better not wait him, better not make him wait. 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:09.760 Tory Holt wide receiver. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:15.640 Of course, he's another one seven years in a rows 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:16.400 of final, isn't. No. 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.200 I always thought he was better than Isaac Bruce, and 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.440 Bruce is in and he isn't. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:23.360 I think you can certainly make that argue. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:24.320 Yeah, I mean they were closed. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:25.960 Fourth Adrian Peterson. 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.520 I think he's a slam This is maybe a first 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:29.920 time or like Gronk. 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.880 Yep and fifth Jason Witten tight end. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:35.880 I was thinking this class was better than that. I 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.680 thought there was another big quarterback that. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.800 Was well there is. His name is Benjamin Todd Roethlisberger. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.839 But NFL dot Com is predicting that he's going to 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:43.559 have to wait a year. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:45.679 Come on, I don't know about that. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:46.439 Come on, man. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.760 Other notable candidates Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Jarry Evans, Frank Gore, 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.640 Richard Sherman, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Darren, Woodson, Marshall. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:01.320 Yonda, Ben's got to go, Ben Peterson and Gronk to 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.120 me or I think just right right right locks. I 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:05.960 think Gronk's the best tight end ever lived. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.040 I think Gronk, out of those ones, is probably the 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.320 because you're right, you can make it, and I guess 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.400 you could for Adrian Peterson too, but not to the 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:13.240 extent of Gronk. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.240 Of being the best position. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.000 Like one always talks about, Jerry Rice is easily of 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.440 all those arguments, at every position, the easiest number one 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.800 is Rice. Okay, I think it's Gronk. I mean it 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:31.920 might be I mean Randy Moss. Randy Moss, Yeah, I 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.959 mean knowing in the combination of size and big, playability 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.400 and receiving, and it's hard to play against his Gronk. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:39.920 Same as Randy kind of right in that reguard. 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.280 I mean, I know Rice's resume is ridiculous, don't get 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:42.560 me wrong. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:44.960 If you just look at the resume on paper without 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:47.800 kind of the video element to accompany it, it's it's 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.719 Jerry Rice, right, My goodness, No one ever looked and 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.040 moved and performed like Randy Moss, and I think you 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.080 could say the same thing about Gronk, right. I also 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:56.840 think it'd be kind of surprising to have two tight 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:58.839 ends in the same class when there's not a ton 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.920 of those guys who go in like predicting Gronk and Witten, 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.600 So that might help Ben that might help Ben, But 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.560 what if there's also the whole like, oh, we're gonna 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.480 get Eli Manning in there, and now he's in his 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.240 third year. Should we make Ben wait and get Eli 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.920 in there? It's again all the politics behind the scenes 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:14.080 of this. 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:15.559 And I don't mean to speak for Jerry Well, I 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.120 guess he said it on the air too. He said 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:20.320 they're really hard on first year guys, you know, like 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.040 for keik Ley to wait a year, Antonio Gates had 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.880 to wait a year two years before they might make 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:26.600 Ben do it. 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:27.040 They might. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.560 I just think that's so dumb. What's the five best 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:29.920 guys in? 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.480 I'm with you in that as soon as. 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.520 They can, whoever's five. But that shouldn't let not like 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.920 the cheapens Witt and getting in. But if he gets 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.079 in because they think Ben needs to wait a year, 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.160 what are we doing here? You know, it's insane to me. 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:45.160 And I also listen. You can say I'm a Homer, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:46.920 you can say I'm wearing my black and gold classes, 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.800 and you're probably correct. But I just of the Ben. 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.400 I think you could ask guys that do Bengals radio 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.520 or Bears radio right now, that's say the same thing. 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.040 Of the Ben Eli Rivers trio, and now obviously Philip 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.040 Rivers has reset his clock and it's gonna. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.200 Have to wait a while. I think I think Ben's 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:03.560 the clear first guy there. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.800 See. I think Ben's a clear yes. Eli is a 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.120 clear no, and I think he'll go yeah. And I 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.280 think Rivers is about his borderline as a quarterback should be. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.920 And I would probably lean towards voting yes for him, 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.560 depending who the other. You got to keep somebody off 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:16.760 if you. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.760 Eli is gonna be such an interesting case because I 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:20.760 don't think he deserves it. 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:22.640 I don't really either. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.000 But I also it's like I always tell you when 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.320 we have these conversations, I go back to like the museum, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.560 the history of the sport, and it's really hard to tell, 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.120 you know, the era or the story I should say 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.520 of this past era of football without mentioning Eli and 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.680 a couple of really big moments. But those were also 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.320 the only two years of his career that he won 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.480 playoff games. For those two years that the Giants won 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:42.320 the Super Bowl. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:44.000 And I never would have had him as a top 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.880 six quarterback in the league at any point of his career. Now, 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:48.719 there were other good ones, but there always are other 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.800 good ones, you know, like Ben was always a top 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:52.800 six quarterback to me, Eli never was. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.319 And those are the hairs you're splitting when you have 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.640 these conversations. I think I think I would swap out 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:03.160 either either Willie Anderson or Jason Witten to me. 0:13:03.559 --> 0:13:06.680 I probably talked to Anderson to death, and I know 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.600 some after a while you wear voters down. But he's 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.720 been eligible forever. I mean, he was a good player 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:14.400 when I was a kid. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:15.680 He retired in two thousand and eight. 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:16.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.559 I don't know whereas you know a lot of these, 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.200 I mean, I guess that's kind of the same matory Holt. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.599 He retired in two thousand and nine exactly, whereas you 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:23.400 know Peterson and. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.840 Cronk Yeah, yeah, yeah twenty one. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.520 Witten retired in twenty so this would be his second 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:32.480 year of potential of potential eligibility. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.120 I think when we did this one year ago, or 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.199 even when the finalists came around, Witton would have gotten 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.920 in this year for me, because vine Terry definitely wouldn't have. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:42.079 I could promise you that. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:43.520 But then they probably looked at that and they were like, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.319 Jason Witten's not a first ballot tight end. Yeah, he's 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.320 Hall of Fame, but he can't be first ballot. And 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.240 I'll put my hand up. I'm guilty of that stuff too, 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.440 sometimes putting too much stock into that. But if you're 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:54.760 a Hall of Famer, you're a Hall of Famer. 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:55.920 You know. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:57.880 As much as I love giving all my Philly people 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.840 grief that Troy was first ballot, Edward was first ballot, 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.840 and Dawkins was not, They're all Hall of Famers, hall 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:05.480 of famers right at the end of the day, I mean, 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:07.400 but I really hope. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.400 This time next year we're not sitting there going Hall 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.560 of Fame Game night, and Ben's not going in this weekend, 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:13.480 like what do we do? 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:13.959 Same here? 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.079 But also at the same time, Matt though, that might 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.880 mean that the Steelers are in the Hall of Fame 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.480 game next year, which means an extra preseason game, which. 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.680 Would probably be broadcasting from Campada, which. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:25.320 Means trading camp I think would open a week earlier. Yeah, 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:26.680 so it would shorten our summer alone. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.560 And I went up last time a Steeler got in, 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.160 was that Troy? No, it's Fanica. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:31.520 Well, you know, I'd have to be there for the 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.280 game to do the broadcast. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:33.680 Stuff. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.160 That's true too, So oh that could that's. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.560 The one bright side though, I could add another stadium. 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:42.200 To my ah yeah, yeah, Canton Memorial or whatever it's whatever, 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:43.960 whatever it's called there where the Hall of Fame game 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:44.960 is held every single year. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.360 But that was just a cool spot. Yeah, I've been 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:48.440 the Hall of Fame in a while. I used to 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:48.960 go a lot. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.400 I think the last time I was was probably twenty years. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:53.200 I was probably fifteen or sixteen, but I been probably 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:55.440 twenty years since i've been. I think I told you 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.240 that story before. But my dad and I when I 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.000 was growing up in like high school in middle school, 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.000 we did this in over the course of like three 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.760 or four years, or every summer, we'd take a few 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.120 days and we'd hit a Hall of Fame in an 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.880 amusement park. Yeah, so like we'd go to we'd go 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:12.440 to Canton on a Saturday and then Cedar Point on 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:13.520 a Sunday. 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.360 And come home Monday type of thing, you know. 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.640 And so, yeah, I've been to all of the Hall 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.800 of Fames, but it's been a long been a long 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.840 time since i've uh, since I've been to any of them. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.480 Did go to the College Football Hall of Fame a 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.360 couple years ago when we were down in Atlanta for 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.360 a for a preseason game, but that's the only one 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:29.200 I've been to recently. 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:31.840 First time I ever went, I was like fourteen, and 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.160 my aunt's husband at the time drove an eighteen wheeler 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.320 for Giant Eagle and had that area and I didn't know. 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.880 He's like, come with me, you know, you we'll go. 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.200 I'll show you what truck driving's like all day. And 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.520 we're driving. I'm like, kind of boring, but this is it. 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.160 Huh oh yeah, I guess we just do this the 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.480 whole time, and you know, we get there and unload 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.240 the goods, and I guess if you're the driver, you 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:55.560 don't unload the goods. I'm like, do we get to 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.320 unload all this stuff? He's like, no, somebody touched that. 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.920 We just we just drive. And then he took me 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:01.920 the Hall of Fame after we were like half a day, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.480 and he like surprised me, like that was awesome. 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:04.080 That's really cool. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.160 But the cooler story is when I was director of 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:09.800 football opposite Achron we had to learn everything on the fly. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.040 Was recruiting season immediately, and we're like, what are we 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.960 gonna do for official visits, you know, where we gonna 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.880 take these people, We don't know even like the cool 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.560