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Speaker 2: times can I say covered in one sentence, Matt, We've
Speaker 2: got the Hall of Fame game tonight before we do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know we mentioned it. That's want to make
Speaker 3: sure we don't forget our buddy Dale.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm glad that you reminded me.
Speaker 3: Yes, this is really cool, A.
Speaker 2: Pretty cool honor for Dale in terms of something that
Speaker 2: was very near and dear to his heart. Pony League
Speaker 2: is the correct name for it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can actually read.
Speaker 2: I can read it right now on because there's like
Speaker 2: the Little League and then there's the Pony League, but
Speaker 2: it's one of the major youth baseball organizations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was very, very involved with the Pony World Series,
Speaker 3: which takes place in Washington County. Right. I think he
Speaker 3: started doing it when his son, who was an excellent
Speaker 3: baseball player, was in the Ponies, and then he just
Speaker 3: kept coaching catch coke joaching involved, helped pick the teams,
Speaker 3: all those type of things. So this year's Washington County
Speaker 3: World Series jerseys proudly feature the initials F D L
Speaker 3: in honor of people probably don't know this.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say it's something that he wasn't crazy about.
Speaker 3: There, right, because it's not even on there. His first
Speaker 3: name starts with an F, and Dale is actually his
Speaker 3: middle name, So like Rob calls him Forrest FDL Lawley,
Speaker 3: but his first name was Forrest and he wasn't big
Speaker 3: on that. So but there are gonna be fdl's on
Speaker 3: the the World Series jerseys for the Pony League. So
Speaker 3: that's really cool, very cool in a and they're like
Speaker 3: prominently displayed. I mean they're right over you know, right
Speaker 3: right down the middle there. So he did a ton
Speaker 3: for him.
Speaker 4: He sure did.
Speaker 2: And I think anybody who listened to this show over
Speaker 2: the years right knew how much Dale loved baseball, how
Speaker 2: much that was his.
Speaker 3: First love was baseball and basketball were his things. Absolutely
Speaker 3: absolutely stumbled into the Steelers beat. I guess the observer
Speaker 3: guy retired like they want this, and he's like, I
Speaker 3: guess I'll handle it. Yeah, he did that and outdoors
Speaker 3: and boom. It was a good deal for him.
Speaker 2: Sure was was a big A's fan growing up. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and just loved baseball, like you said, Even after his
Speaker 2: sons moved on, he devoted a ton of time coaching
Speaker 2: in those pony leagues. It was something he had a
Speaker 2: real passion for. They unveiled a memorial bench for him
Speaker 2: at the field. That was I think earlier in the summer,
Speaker 2: right yep, And then yeah, today getting word that Washington
Speaker 2: County's World Series jerseys proudly featured the initials FDL in
Speaker 2: honor of the late F.
Speaker 4: Dale Lawley.
Speaker 2: Dale was a longtime member of the Washington Youth Baseball Council,
Speaker 2: serving for many years as Pony President. He played a
Speaker 2: pivotal role in the creation of the Founders League, the
Speaker 2: county wide league from which the Washington County World Series
Speaker 2: team is selected. A respected sports journalist, Dale spent the
Speaker 2: majority of his career covering the Pittsburgh Steelers, earning the
Speaker 2: admiration of colleagues and readers alike. He passed away shortly
Speaker 2: after the twenty twenty five Pony League World Series, but
Speaker 2: his passion for youth baseball and unwavering dedication to the
Speaker 2: Washington County baseball community continues to leave a lasting legacy.
Speaker 2: Very cool, very cool, and well and well deserved. And yeah,
Speaker 2: we had said that, we wanted to mention that.
Speaker 3: And there were many times we were like on the
Speaker 3: air and his phone to be blowing up because they'd
Speaker 3: be like we don't know any catchers equipment at this
Speaker 3: or like nobody lined the fields and blow or of
Speaker 3: an umpire. You know.
Speaker 2: I remember the early, you know, my first year or
Speaker 2: two with the company, when I was still doing a
Speaker 2: lot of producing stuff, and I would produce you and
Speaker 2: Dale fairly fairly regularly on the drive, and there'd be
Speaker 2: a lot of times where you know, that's six o'clock
Speaker 2: time would hit for the last segment and he'd be
Speaker 2: like cooking it out the door because he's like, I
Speaker 2: gotta make it the practice and yeah, forty five minutes,
Speaker 2: you know or whatever. Yeah, it was something he had
Speaker 2: a real passion for. And again, anyone who who listened
Speaker 2: to him over the years, I think that was pretty
Speaker 2: evident in a well deserved honor.
Speaker 3: I always think about it in this time of year two,
Speaker 3: Like many times, even just him and I sitting at
Speaker 3: Sharky's watching baseball, usually the Pirates, and I was always
Speaker 3: out of the loop, and the Pirates were very good,
Speaker 3: and you know, he was super into it, and he'd
Speaker 3: always be like, how do you miss that cut of
Speaker 3: all the fundamental stuff used to make him crazy, you know, like, yes,
Speaker 3: you gotta hit that cutoff, guy or why are you
Speaker 3: in this position? Or bunt the dude over, you know,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, like managing through it. And I was
Speaker 3: learned a lot from him, but real, real quick note,
Speaker 3: hope this isn't too out of line. But he took
Speaker 3: pride in it. But the day he got his vasectomy,
Speaker 3: he pitched batting practice.
Speaker 4: Oh jeez.
Speaker 3: And he's like, I didn't plan on it, but we
Speaker 3: had nobody to do it, and so sucked it up.
Speaker 4: That's the least surprising thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you're making that up.
Speaker 4: I know I don't. I don't either. And if there
Speaker 4: was anybody who would do it, it.
Speaker 3: Was Dale Line drive up the middle.
Speaker 4: Oh, that guy was just you used to you said this.
Speaker 4: He was a bulldog.
Speaker 2: He just nothing could get his way of accomplishing what
Speaker 2: needed accomplished.
Speaker 3: Throughout the day, I think somebody canceled and he's like,
Speaker 3: I'll do it.
Speaker 2: Whether whether it was his job with the Steelers and
Speaker 2: covering the team from beat side, whether it was this,
Speaker 2: whether it was his his passion for for for youth baseball.
Speaker 4: If Dale wanted to do it, he was getting it done.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Nothing nothing was getting in his way. And yeah, very
Speaker 2: very cool and richly deserved honor for him and for
Speaker 2: his family.
Speaker 3: That was shocked to see that this morning, his wife
Speaker 3: put it on Facebook.
Speaker 4: You and I both saw that.
Speaker 2: It was like what we first said to each other
Speaker 2: when we when we walked in here today. And I'm
Speaker 2: glad you reminded me too, to make sure that we
Speaker 2: mentioned that.
Speaker 4: Matt.
Speaker 2: I guess there's no real easy way to transition out
Speaker 2: of that, but maybe the one way to transition out
Speaker 2: of it is is something that Dale had the honor
Speaker 2: of doing a couple of times, was, of course, being
Speaker 2: the Steelers representative who gets to go to Canton. For
Speaker 2: those who are unfamiliar, this is how this works. When
Speaker 2: a player is up for induction into the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: someone someone has to represent you, and it's it's someone
Speaker 2: from your city's media landscape, like.
Speaker 3: I just found out the other night that Jerry Dulac
Speaker 3: is now in charge. Edett did it, did it forever,
Speaker 3: and Dale did it. I think I don't know why
Speaker 3: Ed couldn't do it a couple of years, but Dale
Speaker 3: had that honor help get Troy in.
Speaker 4: And help get Troy in, and I think Fanic as
Speaker 4: well too.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe while Dale was involved there, Matt, we do
Speaker 2: know that obviously with the Hall of Fame game tonight,
Speaker 2: there's a new class going in this weekend and.
Speaker 3: Super super quick. Yeah, I'm sure that's a fine system,
Speaker 3: but there has to be a better one. But like,
Speaker 3: like this will definitely hurt Antonio Brown, Like, who's going
Speaker 3: to stand on the table for him?
Speaker 2: I think that's the reason that someone like t O
Speaker 2: had to wait to get that. That's he's going to
Speaker 2: stand on the table for him.
Speaker 3: Because not to mention like t O's last eight years
Speaker 3: were like Philly since he you know, like if you
Speaker 3: move around a lot, I don't think that helps your cause. Nowadays,
Speaker 3: certainly the guy better be pretty passionate to get you in,
Speaker 3: unless you're Aaron Donald or Mahomes or you cut right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine Dale didn't have to do a ton of.
Speaker 2: Heavy lifting to get Troy Paula Mallow into But they're
Speaker 2: not all that easy. They're not all slam dunks.
Speaker 3: Like oh, I used to bust his stones. We're talking
Speaker 3: about Dalel Stones.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, justin make that the title of this
Speaker 4: hour on the podcast.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you got Troy and okay, you know that's
Speaker 3: really not that hard, dude, but you were. I think
Speaker 3: I think it took him two tries to get fanick
Speaker 3: at him. Yes, come on, man, right, exactly right right,
Speaker 3: I can get t get Troy.
Speaker 4: Matt with that.
Speaker 2: Of course everyone has started to you know, uh, this
Speaker 2: weekend's class, Drew Brees, Roger Clegg, Craig, Larry Fitzgerald, Luke Keigley,
Speaker 2: Adam Vineri.
Speaker 3: Everyone has started reminds me of the too everything.
Speaker 4: Everything's coming up bail today.
Speaker 2: He would have been literally about a kicker getting in
Speaker 2: the other guys I think pretty deserving though, certainly Breeze
Speaker 2: Breeze Fits and Keikley.
Speaker 3: That's a heck, they're easy one.
Speaker 4: That's a heck of a trio right there.
Speaker 3: Years criminal with that.
Speaker 2: Matt predictions on NFL dot Com of who will be
Speaker 2: next year twenty seven.
Speaker 3: That's a real good class. Let's go through it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's who they have as their five. Willie Anderson,
Speaker 2: offensive tackle for the Bengals and the Ravens.
Speaker 3: He's been looming for a really long time. I think
Speaker 3: he's going to be all over.
Speaker 2: Five to straight years as a finalist, So next year
Speaker 2: would be six. Rob Gronkowski tight end.
Speaker 3: Better not wait him, better not make him wait.
Speaker 4: Tory Holt wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Of course, he's another one seven years in a rows
Speaker 2: of final, isn't. No.
Speaker 3: I always thought he was better than Isaac Bruce, and
Speaker 3: Bruce is in and he isn't.
Speaker 4: I think you can certainly make that argue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they were closed.
Speaker 4: Fourth Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 3: I think he's a slam This is maybe a first
Speaker 3: time or like Gronk.
Speaker 4: Yep and fifth Jason Witten tight end.
Speaker 3: I was thinking this class was better than that. I
Speaker 3: thought there was another big quarterback that.
Speaker 2: Was well there is. His name is Benjamin Todd Roethlisberger.
Speaker 2: But NFL dot Com is predicting that he's going to
Speaker 2: have to wait a year.
Speaker 4: Come on, I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: Come on, man.
Speaker 2: Other notable candidates Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Jarry Evans, Frank Gore,
Speaker 2: Richard Sherman, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne, Darren, Woodson, Marshall.
Speaker 3: Yonda, Ben's got to go, Ben Peterson and Gronk to
Speaker 3: me or I think just right right right locks. I
Speaker 3: think Gronk's the best tight end ever lived.
Speaker 2: I think Gronk, out of those ones, is probably the
Speaker 2: because you're right, you can make it, and I guess
Speaker 2: you could for Adrian Peterson too, but not to the
Speaker 2: extent of Gronk.
Speaker 4: Of being the best position.
Speaker 3: Like one always talks about, Jerry Rice is easily of
Speaker 3: all those arguments, at every position, the easiest number one
Speaker 3: is Rice. Okay, I think it's Gronk. I mean it
Speaker 3: might be I mean Randy Moss. Randy Moss, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean knowing in the combination of size and big, playability
Speaker 3: and receiving, and it's hard to play against his Gronk.
Speaker 4: Same as Randy kind of right in that reguard.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know Rice's resume is ridiculous, don't get
Speaker 3: me wrong.
Speaker 2: If you just look at the resume on paper without
Speaker 2: kind of the video element to accompany it, it's it's
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice, right, My goodness, No one ever looked and
Speaker 2: moved and performed like Randy Moss, and I think you
Speaker 2: could say the same thing about Gronk, right. I also
Speaker 2: think it'd be kind of surprising to have two tight
Speaker 2: ends in the same class when there's not a ton
Speaker 2: of those guys who go in like predicting Gronk and Witten,
Speaker 2: So that might help Ben that might help Ben, But
Speaker 2: what if there's also the whole like, oh, we're gonna
Speaker 2: get Eli Manning in there, and now he's in his
Speaker 2: third year. Should we make Ben wait and get Eli
Speaker 2: in there? It's again all the politics behind the scenes
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to speak for Jerry Well, I
Speaker 3: guess he said it on the air too. He said
Speaker 3: they're really hard on first year guys, you know, like
Speaker 3: for keik Ley to wait a year, Antonio Gates had
Speaker 3: to wait a year two years before they might make
Speaker 3: Ben do it.
Speaker 4: They might.
Speaker 3: I just think that's so dumb. What's the five best
Speaker 3: guys in?
Speaker 4: I'm with you in that as soon as.
Speaker 3: They can, whoever's five. But that shouldn't let not like
Speaker 3: the cheapens Witt and getting in. But if he gets
Speaker 3: in because they think Ben needs to wait a year,
Speaker 3: what are we doing here? You know, it's insane to me.
Speaker 2: And I also listen. You can say I'm a Homer,
Speaker 2: you can say I'm wearing my black and gold classes,
Speaker 2: and you're probably correct. But I just of the Ben.
Speaker 3: I think you could ask guys that do Bengals radio
Speaker 3: or Bears radio right now, that's say the same thing.
Speaker 2: Of the Ben Eli Rivers trio, and now obviously Philip
Speaker 2: Rivers has reset his clock and it's gonna.
Speaker 4: Have to wait a while. I think I think Ben's
Speaker 4: the clear first guy there.
Speaker 3: See. I think Ben's a clear yes. Eli is a
Speaker 3: clear no, and I think he'll go yeah. And I
Speaker 3: think Rivers is about his borderline as a quarterback should be.
Speaker 3: And I would probably lean towards voting yes for him,
Speaker 3: depending who the other. You got to keep somebody off
Speaker 3: if you.
Speaker 2: Eli is gonna be such an interesting case because I
Speaker 2: don't think he deserves it.
Speaker 4: I don't really either.
Speaker 2: But I also it's like I always tell you when
Speaker 2: we have these conversations, I go back to like the museum,
Speaker 2: the history of the sport, and it's really hard to tell,
Speaker 2: you know, the era or the story I should say
Speaker 2: of this past era of football without mentioning Eli and
Speaker 2: a couple of really big moments. But those were also
Speaker 2: the only two years of his career that he won
Speaker 2: playoff games. For those two years that the Giants won
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: And I never would have had him as a top
Speaker 3: six quarterback in the league at any point of his career. Now,
Speaker 3: there were other good ones, but there always are other
Speaker 3: good ones, you know, like Ben was always a top
Speaker 3: six quarterback to me, Eli never was.
Speaker 2: And those are the hairs you're splitting when you have
Speaker 2: these conversations. I think I think I would swap out
Speaker 2: either either Willie Anderson or Jason Witten to me.
Speaker 3: I probably talked to Anderson to death, and I know
Speaker 3: some after a while you wear voters down. But he's
Speaker 3: been eligible forever. I mean, he was a good player
Speaker 3: when I was a kid.
Speaker 4: He retired in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know whereas you know a lot of these,
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that's kind of the same matory Holt.
Speaker 2: He retired in two thousand and nine exactly, whereas you
Speaker 2: know Peterson and.
Speaker 3: Cronk Yeah, yeah, yeah twenty one.
Speaker 2: Witten retired in twenty so this would be his second
Speaker 2: year of potential of potential eligibility.
Speaker 3: I think when we did this one year ago, or
Speaker 3: even when the finalists came around, Witton would have gotten
Speaker 3: in this year for me, because vine Terry definitely wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: I could promise you that.
Speaker 2: But then they probably looked at that and they were like,
Speaker 2: Jason Witten's not a first ballot tight end. Yeah, he's
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame, but he can't be first ballot. And
Speaker 2: I'll put my hand up. I'm guilty of that stuff too,
Speaker 2: sometimes putting too much stock into that. But if you're
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer, you're a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: As much as I love giving all my Philly people
Speaker 2: grief that Troy was first ballot, Edward was first ballot,
Speaker 2: and Dawkins was not, They're all Hall of Famers, hall
Speaker 2: of famers right at the end of the day, I mean,
Speaker 2: but I really hope.
Speaker 3: This time next year we're not sitting there going Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame Game night, and Ben's not going in this weekend,
Speaker 3: like what do we do?
Speaker 4: Same here?
Speaker 2: But also at the same time, Matt though, that might
Speaker 2: mean that the Steelers are in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 2: game next year, which means an extra preseason game, which.
Speaker 3: Would probably be broadcasting from Campada, which.
Speaker 4: Means trading camp I think would open a week earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so it would shorten our summer alone.
Speaker 3: And I went up last time a Steeler got in,
Speaker 3: was that Troy? No, it's Fanica.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'd have to be there for the
Speaker 2: game to do the broadcast.
Speaker 4: Stuff.
Speaker 3: That's true too, So oh that could that's.
Speaker 4: The one bright side though, I could add another stadium.
Speaker 2: To my ah yeah, yeah, Canton Memorial or whatever it's whatever,
Speaker 2: whatever it's called there where the Hall of Fame game
Speaker 2: is held every single year.
Speaker 3: But that was just a cool spot. Yeah, I've been
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame in a while. I used to
Speaker 3: go a lot.
Speaker 2: I think the last time I was was probably twenty years.
Speaker 2: I was probably fifteen or sixteen, but I been probably
Speaker 2: twenty years since i've been. I think I told you
Speaker 2: that story before. But my dad and I when I
Speaker 2: was growing up in like high school in middle school,
Speaker 2: we did this in over the course of like three
Speaker 2: or four years, or every summer, we'd take a few
Speaker 2: days and we'd hit a Hall of Fame in an
Speaker 2: amusement park. Yeah, so like we'd go to we'd go
Speaker 2: to Canton on a Saturday and then Cedar Point on
Speaker 2: a Sunday.
Speaker 4: And come home Monday type of thing, you know.
Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I've been to all of the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fames, but it's been a long been a long
Speaker 2: time since i've uh, since I've been to any of them.
Speaker 2: Did go to the College Football Hall of Fame a
Speaker 2: couple years ago when we were down in Atlanta for
Speaker 2: a for a preseason game, but that's the only one
Speaker 2: I've been to recently.
Speaker 3: First time I ever went, I was like fourteen, and
Speaker 3: my aunt's husband at the time drove an eighteen wheeler
Speaker 3: for Giant Eagle and had that area and I didn't know.
Speaker 3: He's like, come with me, you know, you we'll go.
Speaker 3: I'll show you what truck driving's like all day. And
Speaker 3: we're driving. I'm like, kind of boring, but this is it.
Speaker 3: Huh oh yeah, I guess we just do this the
Speaker 3: whole time, and you know, we get there and unload
Speaker 3: the goods, and I guess if you're the driver, you
Speaker 3: don't unload the goods. I'm like, do we get to
Speaker 3: unload all this stuff? He's like, no, somebody touched that.
Speaker 3: We just we just drive. And then he took me
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame after we were like half a day,
Speaker 3: and he like surprised me, like that was awesome.
Speaker 4: That's really cool.
Speaker 3: But the cooler story is when I was director of
Speaker 3: football opposite Achron we had to learn everything on the fly.
Speaker 3: Was recruiting season immediately, and we're like, what are we
Speaker 3: gonna do for official visits, you know, where we gonna
Speaker 3: take these people, We don't know even like the cool
Speaker 3: spots to hit. And it dawned on me this was
Speaker 3: actually all my ideas, Like there's a mile radius from
Speaker 3: campus that counts as a official visits where you can
Speaker 3: take guys for free, and the Hall of Fame was
Speaker 3: one of them.
Speaker 4: How far of a drive is that Canton to Acre.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's not ten minutes away.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's like twenty It's not far at all. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I actually just just because he went to Akron, he said,
Speaker 2: like twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3: In a lot of time. So what we would do
Speaker 3: is on the weekends after it closed, we would like
Speaker 3: get a catering service at the Hall of Fame. And
Speaker 3: it was like night at the museum. It was like
Speaker 3: our coaching staff was like and the busts would talk
Speaker 3: to you, you know what I mean. It was because
Speaker 3: there was no one else in the building except for
Speaker 3: the recruits, their families and our coaching staff, and we'd
Speaker 3: hang there till like ten at night. It was super cool.
Speaker 4: That would be I'll give you that. That would be
Speaker 4: a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, oh, there's Joe Green Spots. Yeah right,
Speaker 3: and he's talking.
Speaker 4: He's going the Cleveland Brown still haven't won anything.
Speaker 3: Franco's like, I didn't catch the ammagicalate reception. Don't tell anybody,
Speaker 3: no that, No, that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Louis Lips was on campus earlier today.
Speaker 2: It was pretty cool to see a guy from that
Speaker 2: kind of similar, similar era. Not quite as bad as
Speaker 2: far as Franco, but yeah, no, that's that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: The busts talk to each other, isn't that. John Madden
Speaker 2: used to say that, right, It wasn't a Madgin say.
Speaker 3: Something like that. Yeah, it was a cool environment just
Speaker 3: being nobody there. But you you know, like wow, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like you got the whole place to yourself. Stretch out
Speaker 2: a little bit there, certainly. But yeah, So we'll obviously
Speaker 2: be keeping on all of the moving and keeping an
Speaker 2: eye on all the moving and shaking in Canton tonight,
Speaker 2: and looking ahead obviously to hoping to see another Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: Steeler number seven inducted in that class of twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 2: Rolling along here on another beautiful, gorgeous day in western Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: here in Latrobe. You know, I was told, I forget
Speaker 2: who who is the one who told me this had
Speaker 2: it was one of the real journals, you know, one
Speaker 2: of the one of the real reporters out here. It
Speaker 2: might have been Kobali or dou Lac, or maybe it
Speaker 2: was Alan Saunders, one of those guys. I'm drawn a
Speaker 2: blank now, but they told us, they were like, you know,
Speaker 2: if you want to be proper it's not Latrobe. It's
Speaker 2: Unity Township, right because we're technically, oh, we are right
Speaker 2: in between. I guess the limits to use the term
Speaker 2: of between Greensburg and Latrobe. So this is technically Unity Township.
Speaker 3: But do you think like the address like these students
Speaker 3: when they get mail.
Speaker 4: It's a good question.
Speaker 3: It does not. You don't put Latrobe PA on there.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I can find out for you
Speaker 2: here real quick. It looks like the address of campus
Speaker 2: is Latrobe.
Speaker 4: Pay but I don't know.
Speaker 3: Then I think I'm in Latrobe.
Speaker 2: So it's in Unity Township with a Latrobe Post office address.
Speaker 3: I don't know what's wrong with that.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Listen.
Speaker 2: I'm just so you know, like the real journals were
Speaker 2: telling me that we are technical.
Speaker 3: If the FABO told me that, I would listen. But no,
Speaker 3: and I say that because he's from La Troup that's true.
Speaker 4: We'll have to ask.
Speaker 2: We'll have to ask our buddy, Mike the FABO, maybe
Speaker 2: later on if we see him this evening. Matt, you
Speaker 2: sent me a heck of a breakdown from from one
Speaker 2: of the analysts that we are very fond of Brandon
Speaker 2: Thorne and everything that he does with offensive line work,
Speaker 2: and he basically ranked like the best forty offensive linemen
Speaker 2: at every position in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: So he has his own substack, he has his own podcast,
Speaker 3: and I brought him up several times. I think he's
Speaker 3: clearly the eminent, a preeminent O line guy out there,
Speaker 3: but I guess Bleacher on the side. He also works
Speaker 3: for Bleacher Report, and like for their draft board, he
Speaker 3: does all the alignment and I guess Bleacher Report is
Speaker 3: like a bleached br one thousand or something like that,
Speaker 3: where they do this at every position. Okay, I'm going
Speaker 3: to look into the other ones because I have to
Speaker 3: trust the analysts for me to spend this much time, sure,
Speaker 3: and I trust Thorns. So I just stumbled upon this
Speaker 3: the other day, and the Steelers are interesting.
Speaker 4: On here pretty well represented.
Speaker 3: What got funny is he does not have a steel
Speaker 3: I mean like he had Like you said, there's like
Speaker 3: forty right tackles, forty left tackles. He has no right
Speaker 3: tackle or right guard because a Steeler.
Speaker 4: Because he moved Faltonu and McCormick to the left.
Speaker 3: And he has Cook, he's three left tackles. He lists Jones, Cook,
Speaker 3: and Fulton, who on the left tackle pile interesting and
Speaker 3: McCormick he moved to left guard, Anderson I don't know
Speaker 3: why he didn't write him up, but he doesn't have
Speaker 3: him involved, I assume because he was a six guy
Speaker 3: last year, and the right tackles he didn't put any rookies,
Speaker 3: so he doesn't have a haunted chore on it all.
Speaker 3: So I found that interesting. So you only find if
Speaker 3: you look this up, I retweeted it, you only find
Speaker 3: Steelers listed among centers, left guards, and left tackles. But
Speaker 3: there's still four or five of them total in this exercise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're hoping a year from now, two years
Speaker 2: from now, three years from now, a lot.
Speaker 4: Of those guys are on this list.
Speaker 3: The well, they're all going to be on because the
Speaker 3: bad Well that's true, because yes, exactly right. I think
Speaker 3: you had to play x amount of snaps or something
Speaker 3: for him to you know, break you out.
Speaker 2: But hopefully well represented like those three are Matt two
Speaker 2: of the Steelers offensive linemen in his top twenty five
Speaker 2: overall in the league. Zach Fraser Zach Fraser position top
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: He breaks it down by each position, then he breaks
Speaker 2: it down overall Big Board, you know, the all eligible
Speaker 2: full offensive line ranking. Okay, so he has and this
Speaker 2: is probably no surprise to you, he has Lane Johnson
Speaker 2: ranked as the number one offensive lineman in the national
Speaker 2: football still ninety five overall out of one hundred, still
Speaker 2: at this point in his career, and it's hard to argue.
Speaker 3: The O line geeks really are mesmerized by this guy
Speaker 3: because he does again it's a little over my analysis
Speaker 3: for O lineman. Just listen to them. He does things
Speaker 3: that leather O linemen have done from like a technique
Speaker 3: standpoint that he's kind of a revolutionary, like don't teach
Speaker 3: your kids to do this, you know, unless you're Lane Johnson.
Speaker 2: Yes, one of those guys who does it differently. But
Speaker 2: my goodness, is going to walk into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: They've got him as a ninety five.
Speaker 3: Over the best right tackle ever.
Speaker 4: He's I think certainly in the conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Tristian Wurfs and Laramie Tunsel check in as left tackle
Speaker 2: one and two overall, two and three on the Big
Speaker 2: Board list, both as ninety four grades, and then Quentin
Speaker 2: Nelson and Creed Humphrey fourth and fifth, first respectively at
Speaker 2: their positions, with ninety three overall grades for those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Matt Zach Fraser on this list pretty highly. Like I said,
Speaker 2: there's two Steelers in the top twenty five. Zach Fraser
Speaker 2: is listed as the twelfth best offensive lineman in the
Speaker 2: league and the second best center, only behind Creed Humphrey.
Speaker 3: I knew he was center two, but okay, that's pretty
Speaker 3: darn center two. Well, overall all positions.
Speaker 2: Gives him a eighty six out of one hundred grade.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's pretty impressive, it really is. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's off.
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, I didn't expect to see I expected
Speaker 2: to see him, you know, three or four on the
Speaker 2: center's list.
Speaker 4: Hey, but I'll take it. And then twelfth overall, I
Speaker 4: mean that's that's that's really that's very high.
Speaker 3: You're battling some tackles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rashaun Slater, Trey Smith, Garrett Bowles, Peter Skronsky, Aaron.
Speaker 4: Brewer, Joe Alt all behind him.
Speaker 2: All behind him, and then just in front of him,
Speaker 2: Joe Foony, Andrew Thomas, Tyler Smith. So I mean that's
Speaker 2: some that's some really good company. Here's the write up
Speaker 2: on on Zach Fraser followed an outstanding rookie season with
Speaker 2: another high end year in twenty twenty five, reinforcing his
Speaker 2: place amongst the league's top center. Rare, strength, leverage, and
Speaker 2: contact balance are the pillars of his game, giving Pittsburgh
Speaker 2: a tone setting presence at the pivot. Fraser already has
Speaker 2: the physical presence, processing and down to down ability of
Speaker 2: a top tier with enough remaining technical polish to keep climbing.
Speaker 3: See this to me just a side note on on
Speaker 3: Brandon Thorn. He has a similar right up to that
Speaker 3: length that paragraph for.
Speaker 2: All these guys, and I skipped a couple of it.
Speaker 2: I didn't even read the entire thing.
Speaker 3: And they read like true scouting reports, you know, like
Speaker 3: too many people if they do a write up on
Speaker 3: O line and they'll be like, he's big and strong
Speaker 3: and moves well, you know, like he really breaks down
Speaker 3: strengths and weaknesses and hand placement and angles and all
Speaker 3: the finer nuances of the position.
Speaker 2: I will add that for you. Thorn also says the
Speaker 2: next layer of Fraser's growth has come with cleaner processing
Speaker 2: and hand usage, when he has become more efficient sorting games,
Speaker 2: passing off movement, and staying square. Rather than turning early
Speaker 2: or opening soft edges.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can understand that too. He hasn't played
Speaker 3: a ton by you know, offensive center career standards, you know.
Speaker 2: So high praise for Zach Fraser, he's center number two.
Speaker 2: And then, like I said, Troy Futon, who also pretty
Speaker 2: well represent on this list, Matt He is ranked already
Speaker 2: despite us not really seeing him at the position in
Speaker 2: stadium as the tenth best left tackle in the NFL
Speaker 2: by Brandon Thorn, eighty grade overall for twenty fifth best
Speaker 2: offensive linemen in the league. Here's what Thorn has to
Speaker 2: say about Faltanu. Faltanu moved from left to right tackle
Speaker 2: as a rookie before a post Week one knee injury,
Speaker 2: and in his season, then return to twenty five to
Speaker 2: start all seventeen games while establishing himself as one of
Speaker 2: the league's better young tackles. Faltonu is an explosive, aggressive
Speaker 2: blocker with good length, high end movement skills in one
Speaker 2: of the league's best snatch trap techniques, allowing him to
Speaker 2: seal leverage and knock rushers off their feet when they
Speaker 2: are lean into him or lazy with their hands. His
Speaker 2: attacking style creates some volatility because he will take risks
Speaker 2: with heavy handed strikes and early commitments. The same temperament
Speaker 2: is central to his impact and pass protection. His quickness,
Speaker 2: recovery ability, and strike power keep him competitive even when
Speaker 2: timing is not perfect. And in the run game, he's
Speaker 2: effective on both the front and backside with the range
Speaker 2: to reach landmarks and the play personality to finish.
Speaker 3: Once attached, love it and a couple of things that
Speaker 3: jumped out to me. I just wanted to relate to
Speaker 3: the listeners here. It's been a while since he got drafted,
Speaker 3: so we even talked like arm length and things of
Speaker 3: that nature. So he's not six five and a half,
Speaker 3: he's not six six, but he's kind of the opposite
Speaker 3: of some of those s Goronsky tackles turned guards because
Speaker 3: they have short arms but they're tall, because he does
Speaker 3: have unusually long arms for someone who's a little over six'
Speaker 3: four from WHAT i remember in his combine And Brandon
Speaker 3: neil didn't explained it better THAN i. Could but not
Speaker 3: everyone pass protects the. Same some are just real patient
Speaker 3: and let you come to. Them some take the fight to,
Speaker 3: you And troy takes the fight to. You you, know
Speaker 3: he goes out of his way at.
Speaker 2: Times you could get caught doing, that, Right but, YEAH
Speaker 2: i think he's gonna win a lot more than he's gonna.
Speaker 3: Lose m.
Speaker 2: H and Then Matt mason, McCormick the other one as you,
Speaker 2: mentioned represented on this.
Speaker 3: List, yeah he does write up Cook In, Jones, yes.
Speaker 4: Down.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah McCormick ranked as the seventeenth best left guard and
Speaker 2: the ninetieth best overall offensive lineman in THE. Nfl he
Speaker 2: says he is not an overwhelming physical, talent but his active,
Speaker 2: hands quick, refits and excellent strain allow him to stay,
Speaker 2: attached die slowly when initially, beaten and prevent clean.
Speaker 3: Sheds let me stop you real, quick BECAUSE i love
Speaker 3: the term die, Slowly well that. Too but his, strain
Speaker 3: which means how long does he keep the fight? Going
Speaker 3: i'm gonna come hold on. On i'm, strained And i'm,
Speaker 3: straight And i'm, straight and Yeah i'm. Losing but you,
Speaker 3: know strained to me is like. Effort, yeah playing to
Speaker 3: the whistle and. Longer you, know that's a good. TERM
Speaker 3: i WISH i used that back on my scouting.
Speaker 2: Days McCormick displays enough play strength and movement ability to
Speaker 2: function across, concepts while his, leverage, toughness and hand activity
Speaker 2: make him more difficult to discard than his raw traits.
Speaker 2: Suggests the limitations show up against wider interior alignments and quick,
Speaker 2: movement where he can, drift redirect, late or be a
Speaker 2: tick slow to pick up. Loopers McCormick is a classic
Speaker 2: greater than the some of his part starter whose, technique,
Speaker 2: effort and consistency make him a net positive love. IT
Speaker 2: i think that's, fair, right, Right AND i tell you, What.
Speaker 3: And, guys scouting reports aren't. Kind there's probably a lot
Speaker 3: of people that have never of course are THERE a
Speaker 3: lot of listeners have never read a scouting report from
Speaker 3: a true, scout you, know whether it's a pro analysis
Speaker 3: like these or their college draft. Analysis much of them
Speaker 3: are boyd not as flattering as you. Think, like with
Speaker 3: all respect To dane and mel and the people that do,
Speaker 3: it And Daniel jeremiah that have even done it for teams.
Speaker 4: On a large.
Speaker 3: Scale, yeah if you're reading most of that stuff is.
Speaker 3: Good you, know when you're reading one behind the scenes
Speaker 3: that no one else reads except for the the entire,
Speaker 3: STAFF a lot of most of it is more negative than.
Speaker 3: POSITIVE i mean there's not Many Aaron donald's where you're, like,
Speaker 3: well we don't have a hard time come of thing
Speaker 3: bad about this guy or bijon.
Speaker 4: The five to player right to steal a baseball.
Speaker 3: Term so probably some people probably listened to their red
Speaker 3: that McCormick thing, Going, man that doesn't sound so. Great these,
Speaker 3: guys all these guys are, very very far from. Perfect
Speaker 3: and if you don't analyze to the nitty gritty that
Speaker 3: he Did thorne does, here you're not really doing your.
Speaker 4: JOB i think he does outstanding.
Speaker 2: Work he Has Dylan cooked ranked as the twenty eighth
Speaker 2: best left tackle And Roger jones as the thirty fourth
Speaker 2: best left, tackle both of those guys that had a
Speaker 2: Damn moore, junior by the, way just oddly.
Speaker 3: Enough and one ELSE i noticed was Seam alo was
Speaker 3: a couple of spots.
Speaker 4: Ahead and spots ahead of. McCormick, yeah, Yep but he
Speaker 4: had some.
Speaker 3: Good things to say About jones And cook. Too they
Speaker 3: weren't all. Negative they weren't like these guys can't play at.
Speaker 3: All you.
Speaker 2: Know he also had One Kevin dotson ranked pretty highly
Speaker 2: on this.
Speaker 3: List, yeah you can say whatever you, want but.
Speaker 4: Formerly of that pair's fourth best right guard in the.
Speaker 3: League that's one that got.
Speaker 4: Away that is that is that is the one that
Speaker 4: Got try to.
Speaker 3: Candy coat and be, like well he wasn't as good
Speaker 3: for The. Steeler he's really really good and he be
Speaker 3: nice if he was.
Speaker 4: Still around all, MAN i tell you, what you.
Speaker 3: Probably wouldn't have A. Coormick but you, know there's a
Speaker 3: butterfly effect all. That but when you draft the dude
Speaker 3: like thoughts in in the fourth, round he kind of
Speaker 3: that's one that got.
Speaker 4: Away wisuy would have been able to hang.
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Speaker 3: V i've seen haven't seen much of him since we've
Speaker 3: been out here. EITHER i see we do different things
Speaker 3: when we're.
Speaker 4: Here i've seen him in the cafeteria once or, twice
Speaker 4: but that's about.
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Speaker 3: yeah you'd be flowing around in that up.
Speaker 2: There we're all the Video we're all the video hive
Speaker 2: is set up up, There. MATT i did want to
Speaker 2: make sure to MENTION i forgot this earlier and we
Speaker 2: were talking about kind of news of the day and
Speaker 2: we did just mention him a few minutes. Ago Jonathan,
Speaker 2: taylor running back of The, colts two, year forty four
Speaker 2: million dollar extension earlier.
Speaker 3: Today, NO i, mean it's just under What bijon signed
Speaker 3: the day. Before gibbs is. LOOMING i think he was
Speaker 3: waiting for these two to get. Done you, know you
Speaker 3: kind of want to be that third. Guy they're they're
Speaker 3: probably the three most valuable running backs on the planet right,
Speaker 3: now when you talk about age in production and their
Speaker 3: level of. Play we don't need to get into. It
Speaker 3: BUT i had a fun discussion actually with my my
Speaker 3: Buddy peacock on our podcast today just talking about how
Speaker 3: immediately it was, like, boy running back salaries are really
Speaker 3: starting to. Inflate you, know they're going up really really.
Speaker 3: Rapidly but still you, know like The, falcons who The steelers' first,
Speaker 3: opponent recently re Signed Drake. London he's still making like
Speaker 3: twelve month, yeah like a million more Than. Bijon and
Speaker 3: then their their Guard, bergeron who's probably like sixteenth amongst you,
Speaker 3: know his right left Guard, yeah maybe twentieth On thorn's,
Speaker 3: list is making like the same. Contract, yeah it's. WILD i,
Speaker 3: mean Like bijeon to, Me i'm not taking any away
Speaker 3: from The taylor, conversation but he might be the second
Speaker 3: or third best football player in the world right, now
Speaker 3: Like Miles, garrett, Him Josh, allen like he's as good
Speaker 3: at his job as anyone on the. Planet and our
Speaker 3: conversation is kind of stemmed around like and it brings
Speaker 3: up A steeler. Thing if you asked The steelers defensive
Speaker 3: coordinator and head coach and everyone on the stat do
Speaker 3: you not want to? Play right If bijeon Or bergeron
Speaker 3: isn't going to play In week one Or, london maybe Even. London,
Speaker 3: yeah BUT i Mean london at least a. Star bergeron
Speaker 3: And bijon are making like the same. Contract it's, LIKE
Speaker 3: i definitely Want. Bijon i'm not going to sleep all
Speaker 3: week Because i'm Playing. Bijon bergeon doesn't play On. Miamy sure'll,
Speaker 3: no you know WHAT i, Mean like how do they
Speaker 3: make the same? Amount AND i understand the supplying the
Speaker 3: man and all that. Stuff, sure but the EXAMPLE i
Speaker 3: used was two years. Ago Remember saquon signs with The
Speaker 3: eagles from The giants and he goes on to have
Speaker 3: a historic, year which we didn't, know but we knew
Speaker 3: he was pretty darn good when he signed that. Contract you,
Speaker 3: say go, On. Barklay you know his contract was like
Speaker 3: identical to what like The Nammie brown signed to be
Speaker 3: the fourth wide receiver for the Jag it was too
Speaker 3: Two atwell's. Contract, Yeah it's, like what are we doing?
Speaker 3: HERE i, mean if you IF i, CAN i think
Speaker 3: he was one, year ten million to sign with The, Eagles,
Speaker 3: like shouldn't everyone given him ten million as opposed to
Speaker 3: a fourth wide? Receiver you would that's different than the
Speaker 3: conversation of using a first round pick on a. Guy,
Speaker 3: yes Because i'm not a big fan of using a
Speaker 3: first round pick on a running back because you can't get,
Speaker 3: tackles you, KNOW i, mean you don't want to be
Speaker 3: in the open. Market but when you have one AND
Speaker 3: i can Get saquon at that point for ten million a,
Speaker 3: year which is Like Calvin austin, money what are we?
Speaker 3: Doing it? Is it is like who changes a? Game?
Speaker 2: War and you know it hearkens back to it wasn't
Speaker 2: that long ago what met three four five years ago
Speaker 2: when there was that big running back summit that was
Speaker 2: do you remember when they said all that and talked
Speaker 2: about how to get paid more and what they should do.
Speaker 3: And because they also don't last.
Speaker 2: Long poor guys running backs on a zoom call. Together
Speaker 2: it is it's it's.
Speaker 3: It's spiked a. Lot but there's like twenty million dollar
Speaker 3: guys especially you should be ten was a.
Speaker 2: Ton even when you consider that, THOUGH i, mean that's
Speaker 2: like it's still The bijeon's making Like Michael pittman junior, money.
Speaker 3: RIGHT i mean right, RIGHT i mean he's making like
Speaker 3: number three receiver money or number TWO i Think Wandell
Speaker 3: robinson's making.
Speaker 4: More it's a weird, dynamic you.
Speaker 3: Know and and it's not like you can't get receivers
Speaker 3: in the. DRAFT i, mean you can get a really
Speaker 3: good number three in the third. Round you can't Give
Speaker 3: Jon robinson the third.
Speaker 4: Round, no you.
Speaker 2: CERTAINLY i mean there's there's a lot of. It there's, exceptions, obviously.
Speaker 3: Right but there's not many of, those especially when he's
Speaker 3: already established and he's twenty three years. Old, like is
Speaker 3: he worth twenty? Million, yeah he's worth twenty. MILLIONS i
Speaker 3: don't want to play against.
Speaker 4: Him it's almost, like, uh.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's the. Move is you just you spend money
Speaker 3: on the stud you, know like The chiefs did With,
Speaker 3: Walker LIKE i Think walker Was walker And Rashid shaheed
Speaker 3: basically got the same contract And seattle decided to give
Speaker 3: it to The shaheed instead Of, walker Who's saheed's, Fine
Speaker 3: But walker's one of the best backs in the league
Speaker 3: And shaheed's just A.
Speaker 2: AND i guess you AND i guess you look at
Speaker 2: it from that lens of you, know running backs can
Speaker 2: be a dime a. Dozen they're easier to. Replace BUT
Speaker 2: i don't think that. TRUE i don't think, though when
Speaker 2: it's that upper esh of running.
Speaker 3: Back right right. RIGHT i, mean no expense To Reco,
Speaker 3: dowdell But.
Speaker 2: Najie harris can be, Replaced rico Doubt, Ll Kenneth gainwell
Speaker 2: can be. Replaced B Jon robinson And Jamior gibbs are
Speaker 2: operating on a different.
Speaker 3: Level or McCaffrey in his. Prime, yeah WHEN i mean
Speaker 3: he's leading the league in yards from, scrimmage that's pretty.
Speaker 3: Important the whole goal here is to move the, football
Speaker 3: AND i give it to. HIM i move the.
Speaker 4: Football it's very because you're right.
Speaker 2: There for so, long there was that almost ongoing conversation
Speaker 2: every off season of, like is there a collusion against
Speaker 2: the running? Backs like that was a real conversation that
Speaker 2: people were having on THE espn talk shows when they're
Speaker 2: trying to kill time.
Speaker 3: And everyone's heard the running backs don't matter a. Conversation
Speaker 3: but IF i can get one for ten, million that's
Speaker 3: the tenth best player at his position in the.
Speaker 2: LEAGUE i love it when we say things like that.
Speaker 2: Too running backs don't.
Speaker 4: Matter? Really who was THE mvp of The Super bowl last?
Speaker 3: Year? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Really who carried The eagles to The Super bowl the
Speaker 4: year before?
Speaker 3: That and the other thing is, too and this is definitely,
Speaker 3: true is running backs are starting to matter more because
Speaker 3: you're seeing more too high lighter, boxes so you, know
Speaker 3: the running, game people running the ball more because of
Speaker 3: how defenses are being. Played and THUS i want to
Speaker 3: hand at The.
Speaker 2: Bejon that is that cyclical nature of football that we talk.
Speaker 2: At one side of the ball gets, heavier the other
Speaker 2: side gets, heavier one side gets, lighter the other side gets.
Speaker 2: Lighter one side starts airing it, out then you start
Speaker 2: running the. Football so maybe that is coming back to
Speaker 2: where it should be a little.
Speaker 3: Bit maybe even when you economics are weird Like bergeron
Speaker 3: And bijeon should not make the same amount of.
Speaker 4: Money, no they should not.
Speaker 2: Close And i've been racking my brain these last couple of,
Speaker 2: Minutes matt to think of like another sports. EXAMPLE i
Speaker 2: guess the only other example could be if pitchers in
Speaker 2: baseball were paid astronomically less because they're only out there
Speaker 2: once every five.
Speaker 4: Days but those TIMES.
Speaker 3: I don't have as long a careers.
Speaker 4: Either those top end pictures get.
Speaker 2: Paid Bank paul, skeins even its struggling this, year he's
Speaker 2: going to make up half a billion dollars when he's
Speaker 2: on the open.
Speaker 3: Market, YEAH i JUST i don't know the other sports well.
Speaker 3: Enough but man or like goalies underpaid in hockey.
Speaker 2: Or, No, NOW i would say that there's there's the
Speaker 2: same clear. Cut the top five percent of goalies make
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 3: More they're doing really middle.
Speaker 2: Class, yeah but it's not like a huge gap with
Speaker 2: a center or a defenseman or a right wing or
Speaker 2: something like.
Speaker 4: THAT i, DON'T i don't. KNOW i don't know the.
Speaker 4: SPORT i, mean you've got now.
Speaker 2: It's obviously way, different but like you've got bench players
Speaker 2: in THE nba that are making twenty million dollars a. Year,
Speaker 2: yeah now they've got a huge salary cap for such
Speaker 2: a small roster.
Speaker 3: In a lot of, games and people to pay.
Speaker 4: Different different, conversation but you're, right it. Is.
Speaker 3: YEAH i think there's a lot of bad contracts in
Speaker 3: THE nba too that people.
Speaker 2: Regret, Absolutely but you it's not as damaging to your
Speaker 2: cap structure because you've only got fourteen or fifteen guys
Speaker 2: on your.
Speaker 3: Roster whatever it.
Speaker 4: Is that's A it's a really good, One.
Speaker 2: Matt that's another one of those kind of fun sitting
Speaker 2: around a barstool or a dinner table with your friends
Speaker 2: and family type, conversations BECAUSE i do think for the top,
Speaker 2: GUYS i think they've gotten back closer to where they should.
Speaker 3: Be the top guys have increased dramatically, lately.
Speaker 4: But it's probably it's still not.
Speaker 3: Bargain, YEAH i, mean If bijeon's one of the, TOP
Speaker 3: i will definitely stand on the table That Bjeon robinson's
Speaker 3: one of the best five football players on the. PLANET
Speaker 3: i firmly believe. THAT i, mean if you want to
Speaker 3: tell Me Miles garrett's, better Or parsons OR i, mean
Speaker 3: we could go through. Them but in terms of what
Speaker 3: he does for what he's asked to, DO i think
Speaker 3: he's the best on the planet at it and is
Speaker 3: better than almost anyone else at their respective.
Speaker 2: Position he's making about the same amount of money a
Speaker 2: year As Christian. Watson, Yeah Courtland, Sutton Chris, Godwin Jacoby,
Speaker 2: myers those are nice.
Speaker 4: Players BUT i, KNOW.
Speaker 3: I wonder what receiver contracts are. Similar there are a
Speaker 3: bunch of number, two's you, Know.
Speaker 4: Like, again those are all good players THAT i, Find.
Speaker 3: BUT i, mean CAN i get A Courtland sutton replacement
Speaker 3: in the second?
Speaker 2: ROUND i think to find a court In suttlond replacement
Speaker 2: a lot easier than you could find A Jeon robinson, replacement, right.
Speaker 3: Because there's only three of them on the, planet are even,
Speaker 3: close you, Know and there's not like the league does and.
Speaker 4: Put out, Receivers, no they, do or the draft.
Speaker 3: Doesn't put out. Receivers there's always plenty to pick. From
Speaker 3: and the league is running the ball more and playing
Speaker 3: with fewer receivers because people are playing with extra tight. End,
Speaker 3: right so the third you, know third receiver on a
Speaker 3: team isn't as much of a starter as he was
Speaker 3: two years. Ago, Even, yeah that's. Weird it's very. Weird and,
Speaker 3: frankly bring it back to The. STEELERS i Think omar
Speaker 3: is really good this with his cap mont with his
Speaker 3: cap mind to be, like, ooh this is the this.
Speaker 3: ERA i should buy in the running backs or. Tackle
Speaker 3: these tackles are cheap or whatever it, is you, know
Speaker 3: like you never want to go shopping for offensive. Tackles
Speaker 3: it's the worst thing. Ever you get to use first
Speaker 3: front picks on. That and clearly The steelers understand.
Speaker 2: That and we'll go get our, safety you, know we
Speaker 2: as much as we LOVE. Mikea fitzpatrick and he's, great
Speaker 2: we'll get our safeties different, ways and we'll.
Speaker 3: SEE i don't think The steelers want to spend on safeties.
Speaker 2: Any want to spend their high capital on tackles and
Speaker 2: and pass rushers and high.
Speaker 3: Value hopefully the quarter went back some, Day hopefully.
Speaker 2: Soon here a quarterback that we'll be talking about having
Speaker 2: to pay eventually two hours in the, books bonus. Hour
Speaker 2: when we, return we will kick things off as always
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