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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to my Favorite Murder the Minisode ten

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Speaker 1: year anniversary edition.

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Speaker 2: That's right, if you're listening to this on Monday, as

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Speaker 2: you should be as it comes out.

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Speaker 3: This week is our ten year anniversary week.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be like those people who have

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Speaker 1: their birthday all month long, where we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about it every single day. We're going to bring it

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Speaker 1: up over and over. I mean, we got to ten

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Speaker 1: years in podcasting.

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's a lifetime.

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Speaker 1: It's like we're a fifteen year old dog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're basically that's right, your first oh and oh oh.

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Speaker 2: Because of that, Molly had the great idea of doing

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Speaker 2: hometowns that are stories we've done in the past, so

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Speaker 2: it's either follow ups or it's your hometown, but we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we love, self referential stuff exactly.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is my first story. I won't to read.

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Speaker 1: It's the subject line. It says, Hi Karen, High Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and hi to Stephen. I want to share a story

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Speaker 1: about my older sister with you. She's ten years older

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Speaker 1: than me, and when I was little, I always looked

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Speaker 1: up to her. I thought she was so beautiful and

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Speaker 1: so talented. Back in nineteen seventy five, my sister Cindy

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Speaker 1: was eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Cindy is such an eighties name, Cindy.

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Speaker 1: When's the last time you've heard I'm Cindy.

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Speaker 3: Not seen a Cindy?

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Speaker 1: Come back, Cindy, Cindy's.

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Speaker 3: We need to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy five, my sister Cindy, of course I

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Speaker 1: love that sitcom, was eighteen years old, living in Visalia, California.

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Speaker 1: She had just moved there from San Jose, California. One day,

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Speaker 1: she was shopping at Kmart. This is nineteen seventy five.

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Speaker 1: She was in the book aisle, thumbing through a book,

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Speaker 1: She could feel the presence of something evil, dark and cold.

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Speaker 1: Taking her gaze off the book, she looked up and

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Speaker 1: Like every horror movie where the book gets pulled away

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Speaker 1: You know how they say the eyes are the window

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Speaker 3: Oh, I bet it was B. C. Andrews, fucking my

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Speaker 1: This today, That's okay, and decided to move away from

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Speaker 1: She felled out a report and went home. Shortly thereafter,

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Speaker 1: Forty three years later, in twenty eighteen, my sister received

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Speaker 1: She still had no idea who he was. Twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: had correctly identified him from a photo, a d sketch.

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Speaker 1: He was the Visalia Ransacker, the night stalker, aka the

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Speaker 1: Golden State Killer.

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Speaker 3: So she fucking fingered him then, yeah, way back then. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: when they were like, we had no idea who he was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A cop, he was a cow, but not in Visalia. Right.

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Speaker 3: But the thing too is that if he was a

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Speaker 1: There, Yep, I'll go question her about the man that

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Speaker 1: knows you love that We just had that whole conversation.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I'm saying that no good. Even to this day,

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Speaker 1: you have a bad feeling about someone, always trust your gut. Sherry,

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Speaker 1: I bet Sherry and Cindy.

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Speaker 2: I wonder though, too, like getting her address from the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll be a track exactly, Yes, totally.

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Speaker 2: And the bright blue eyes thing is like such a

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Speaker 3: It's like so specific.

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Speaker 2: Bright blue eyes. Oh, and he kept looking at her

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Speaker 1: But I thought when he was in Visalia he was

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Speaker 3: Nobody still had bright blue eyes.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, but not a cop all.

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Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. So he's a little bit clear

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Speaker 1: The vice Sally Rundsacker, basically the night stalker, which is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's actually funny because that was your first

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Speaker 2: it to you the subject line, Hi, I love you

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Speaker 2: both well. Listening to a new story about the recent

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Speaker 2: mass suicide, my dad casually said, I interviewed a cult once.

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Speaker 2: non true crime dad was talking about the Heaven's Gate cult.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yes, the one obsessed with UFOs and Nikes.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety four, my dad was working as a

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Speaker 2: Am I right? And seemed pretty rooted in the real world.

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Speaker 2: most of his time reporting on the cult of politics,

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Speaker 2: Stay sexy and support local journalism. Exoxo, Genevieve. She sent

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Speaker 2: the article the link along Oh that's cool. It's called

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Speaker 2: Strangers Come to Tell a Tale, and that was from

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Speaker 2: episode one oh three where I cover the Heaven's Gate

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Speaker 2: Cult live in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Yes, that's just such an interesting thing because having

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Speaker 1: a parent as a journalist must be really incredible because

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Speaker 1: that's they spend all their time having unbelievable experiences like that.

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Speaker 2: And then like I didn't think anything of that interview.

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Speaker 2: They were actually really friendly.

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Speaker 1: There were just like some computer nerds that were like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: same thing in that documentary. Yeah, that the actual people

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Speaker 1: and when they spoke and stuff, they just seemed like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: next story. This one's intense because subject line my dad

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Speaker 1: That's amazing, love that that god damn bear's been in

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Speaker 2: Don't do drugs, everyone. There's also a line of Cocaine

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Speaker 1: It's a bear?

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Speaker 1: It's a lovely complent. Yeah, it's very sweet. That's do

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Speaker 2: This is based on me covering the Great Emu War.

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Speaker 2: Yes episode four seventy seven called the Greatest Depression, released

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Speaker 2: oil was trendy, and people were investing like this was

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Speaker 2: emu bitcoin.

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Speaker 1: I don't in the nineties. Yeah, in America, I don't think.

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Speaker 3: So let's see, is there are you?

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Speaker 1: And the could be Australia.

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Speaker 2: Also, anyone who's from Australia, we say it Emu here. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I know it's EMU in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Ew. I got so many you would give me the

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Speaker 1: ick so bad if you just kept saying that.

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Speaker 3: It's Emo Okay.

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Speaker 2: My dad was once offered thirteen thousand, five hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: for the pair before they were even a year old. Wow,

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Speaker 2: But he held out because at the time, earlings were

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Speaker 2: going for twenty grand. What which in today's when he's

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Speaker 2: probably like fucking fifty something.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I didn't either, spoiler, he made zero dollars. When the

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Speaker 2: Emu's hit their first birthday that Emu bubble burst.

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Speaker 3: My parents ended up just giving them away. Oh, it's

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Speaker 3: like beatie babies alive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's terrible, it's all, it's so valuable. Nothing naturally.

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Speaker 2: I asked about their personalities because Georgia mentioned that Emu's

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Speaker 2: could be loving and kind. I don't remember that, and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to believe I spent my babyhood with gentle giants.

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Speaker 2: My dad said, eh, most are pretty docile, but then

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Speaker 2: casually added though a lot of them can get really aggressive.

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Speaker 2: He told me once he had to give medication to

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Speaker 2: one of my grandparents' emos and it straight up sliced

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Speaker 2: his arm open with its talent emergency room stitches the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. So yeah, kind of a toss up. Then

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Speaker 2: I asked my mom if she was ever scared of them.

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Speaker 2: She texted back and I, quote, I wasn't scared of them,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't fuck with them end quote, which honestly

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Speaker 2: is probably the most honest way anyone has ever described

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Speaker 2: coexisting with EMUs.

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Speaker 3: So yeah.

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Speaker 2: Some people get china sets or blenders for their wedding.

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Speaker 2: My parents got angry war birds and a baby. Cindy Sidney,

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