1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Calf. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app and 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: we are live on the radio till four o'clock one 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: until four after four. You can hear the whole show 5 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: as a podcast, John and Ken on Demand. So do 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: that hes you miss anyway? Yeah, I've got a really 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: good show lined up today. We're gonna be talking to 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: a mayor and a city attorney together coming on The 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: John and Ken Show. And this is about one southern 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: California's town's efforts to fight Newsome and Sacramento when they're 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: being told to ruin their single family home city to 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: build more and more high rise housing. This is an 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: ongoing battle, but Huntington Beach has been out front in 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: opposing this dictate from Sacramento. I would imagine this is 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: gonna end up in the State Supreme Court one day. 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: They have a lot of legal arguments why they will 17 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: not and cannot comply with these mandates from Sacramento trying 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: to take over local control. Right, Yeah, I think that 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: line is every city ought to have control over how 20 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: it wants the city to be built out, period. That's right. 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: You elect these people to make these decisions and you 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: elect them locally. How can you have the state's thirty 23 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: nine million people, you know, it's hundreds and hundreds of 24 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: towns and every possible demographic, every possible living environment. How 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: could you have one guy mandate dictate what the rules 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: are going to be. It's crazy. That's what local county 27 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: supervisor boards and local town councils are for. Period. I 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: mean I don't know a period full stop. In fact, 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: how about that? Not about that? I'm sure there are 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: other places in California with the city governments who are like, oh, 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: they'll bow to new some Sure, we'll build whatever you want. 32 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: But if a town says no, and it's people say no, 33 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: don't screw you walk away Because the town council is 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: voted by the people. And so if they have a 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: plan to have nothing but one family homes and that's 36 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: what the people want, and if they want a bunch 37 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: of high rises, well then that's what those people want. 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: It's not that complicated. Leave leave everyone alone. Then, speaking 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: of Newsome, a man that thought he would one day 40 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: be California's next Newsome as a San Diego County supervisor 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: named Nathan Fletcher, Oh well, he's taken a leave right 42 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: now to go into rehab. That was the story for 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: a few days until it was revealed he's being sued 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: for sex harassment. He's going in for penis rehab. I 45 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: guess that's another way to put apparently wore it out 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: and he needs some surgery. But he's decided first not 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: to run for state Senate, which is what he had 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: his eyes on on his way up the ladder, to 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: run for governor. But he's going to resign as San 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Diego County Supervisor, but not for another month or so, 51 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: and that's not sitting too well with some on the board, 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: including Jim Desmon, san Diego County Supervisor, will join us 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: also later on the show. So again, you don't hear 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: all of this live, you can always pick it up 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: on the podcast to post it up right after four o'clock. 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: All right, Well, will this story be what's the word 57 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: we use, seminole? Will it result in real change in 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: a place that needs real change? And that is the decaying, disgusting, 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: almost empty city of San Francisco, as became huge news 60 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: all over the nation today. I've never heard of the man. 61 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: It's sad that he died His name is Bob Lee, 62 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: but he comes from the tech world, and that's why 63 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: I think this killing is really going to shake people, right. 64 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: He created cash app as chief technology officer at a 65 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: company called Square, and he was stabbed to death in 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: downtown San Francisco early yesterday morning. Is also the founder 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: of something called mobile Coin, where he was working as 68 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: a chief product officer. The San Francisco Police Department is 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: not giving out a lot of information, but he died 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: after being stabbed in the rinkin Hill neighborhood on the 71 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: city's northeast edge. It's right near the Bay. It's filled 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: with high rise condominiums. The police got a call at 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: two thirty five am that there was a man found 74 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: with apparent stab wounds. He actually lives in Mill Valley, 75 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: which is kind of across the way from the San 76 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: Francisco Bay. But he was pronounced dead at the scene, 77 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: and the tributes, which were all over the place in 78 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: media articles are long. It's almost like they're memorializing him 79 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: because he was considered I guess he had sort of nicknames, 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: but he was considered a big, a big deal in 81 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: the tech indus. Do you know what his company Square? 82 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: You know went they're behind. Have you ever gone and 83 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: bought something at a like a farmer's market or any 84 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of outdoor venue and they have these little white 85 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: squares and you tap your credit card or slide it 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: on the white square. Oh, I've seen it. I haven't 87 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: used dead that's his company developed that. Oh, and so 88 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: it was a great way for businesses, mobile businesses, or 89 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: anybody to have a payment system going without being connected 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: to a wired computer. Oh. I see, yes, Square has 91 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: been renamed block. All right. Do you know what cash 92 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: app is? I've not used that one either, but I 93 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: can imagine it's another one. I was like a cash 94 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: transfer app, right, and mobile points involved in crypto, Yeah, 95 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: but it was only forty three. I guess he has 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: a family. I didn't get the details on that yet. 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: We do not know who killed them. I know somebody 98 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: who worked for Google who has met him. Oh really? Yeah. Uh. 99 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: If you look at his list of companies he's either founded, 100 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: or worked for, or invested in, it's just it's a 101 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: long list. They called him crazy Bob, but that's because 102 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: when he played water polo. Now you talk about the 103 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: elitist white world right to tech people, he played water 104 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Polo and I guess that was his nickname on the team. Yeah, 105 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: according to uh TO martial artist Jake Shields, he wrote 106 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: on Twitter that he was in a good part of 107 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: the city appeared to have been targeted in a random 108 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: mugging slash attack. It occurred on a block in your 109 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: many office buildings, including Salesforce Tower and Google's San Francisco offices. 110 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: You know. The only thing, John and I always say, 111 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: not a lot of good things happened at two thirty am. 112 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: Now we do not know why. You know, he was 113 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: on the street at two thirty in the morning, But 114 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: of course he would say that too often, because we 115 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: shouldn't be in a world where that has to be 116 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: the advice. He was not a business trip. He had 117 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: relocated to Miami, he had a family, had two daughters, 118 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: and he was back in San Francisco on business. Okay, 119 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: so I don't know the purpose of the late night, 120 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: but you're right. Maybe he was at with people enjoying 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: an evening and just it got to be late. And 122 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, tech people have really weird hours. They work 123 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: and whenever they think of stuff, they're at work, and 124 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: then they take their time off during the day. Sometimes 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: and you should be able to walk at two thirty 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: in the morning and come home from a restaurant or 127 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: a bar friend's house without getting stabbed to death. But 128 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: this is what this is what voters created in San Francisco. 129 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: And we could rail for the rest of time about 130 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: this idiot mayor or this idiot city councilor borders supervisors 131 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: or a district attorney. But you people vote for this 132 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: crowd and then they pass and implement the loss and 133 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: the voting patterns and a lot of tech guys I 134 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: don't know how Bobly voted, but a lot of the 135 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: tech world voted extreme progressive, extreme left. They're behind all 136 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: kinds of defund police, defund jail. And it's not just 137 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: candidates but organizations, destabilizing organizations. Yeah, there's a little more information. 138 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: His father posted a Facebook message. Bobbly's father was Rick, 139 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: and he did say that he moved to Mill Valley 140 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: with his son in twenty nineteen after the death of 141 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: his own wife, and then the father and son relocated 142 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: to Miami in October of last year. So I guess 143 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: he is no longer a resident of the Bay Area, 144 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: but he came up for like you said, a business trip. Yeah, 145 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: it's brought him to meet somebody up. And of course, 146 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: depending on what news outlet you're reading, you know, some 147 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: are saying this is part of a horrible trend in 148 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: the city. Maybe not so much homicide. The police said 149 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: there were fifty six homicides in both twenty twenty two 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one, which is up from forty eight 151 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: twenty three. There have been thirteen or twelve rather since 152 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: the start of this year. You know. You know what's 153 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: irritating me about crime coverage is they go, well, the 154 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: crime's down down a little, it's still at an absurd rate. 155 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: Everybody gets comfortable with whatever the last report is, Well, 156 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: it was down three percent. What's the base here? Down 157 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: three percent from a very high number in a lot 158 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: of cases. 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Well, 166 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: a story a couple of weeks ago that was picked 167 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: up by a lot of media, especially locally, was that Metro, 168 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: of course, was having a lot of problems on the 169 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: trains and buses with the homeless, with people dying of overdoses. 170 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: One thing they were doing. One of the worst stations 171 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: is Westlake Magarthur Park, the Metro station there near downtown 172 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, is they're blasting classical music in order to 173 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: drive the loiterers away. So the follow up story in 174 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: the Alsagondo Times by Jessica Gelt I'd never heard of 175 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: her before. Jessica Gelt, Oh, she is a precious little wokester. 176 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: Apparently it's too loud, it's hurting us. And her article 177 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: compares this to forms of torture, torture, noise, torture that 178 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: oppressive regimes use. Jessica Guilt actually proposes that this is 179 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: terrible torture of the homeless. She cites the music of 180 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: Metallica used as a torture device against a rocky detainees 181 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: during the War on Terror. She's citing others that heavy 182 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: metal and hard rock drove Manuel nor Jegat of hiding 183 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: at the Vatican's assembling in Panama City in nineteen eighty nine. 184 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: This is Beethoven, we have you want to hear it. 185 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: This is Mozart. Let's hear a sample. It sounds like 186 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: cheap speakers. But yeah, it sounds yes. I think maybe 187 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: the problem is the speakers have distort the sound and 188 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: make it crazy. She dug up, who's this Some sort 189 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: of experts here by the name of hersh Oh, Lily 190 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: E hirsh Oh, a musicologist. Oh, this is rich, an 191 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: author of music and American crime prevention and punishment. Oh, 192 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: she actually has studied this and written a book about it. Yeah. Well, ah, 193 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: you see that in fancy chee shops that play classical 194 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: music because they hope people will feel like they're part 195 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: of some elite, upscale world, they'll spend more money. However, 196 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: when classical music is used in dark and aggressive ways, 197 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: it can feel dystopian and creepy. She says, not unlike 198 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: the mood of the movie The Silence of the Lamps 199 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: that was about the serial killer guy. You know, you 200 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: know what this subtext of Jessica Gelts writing is here. 201 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: But this is rich white people and their cultural tastes 202 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: being used to torture the homeless, downtrodden people of color. 203 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: That's what she's trying to get across in this story, 204 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: because that says here, sounds is experienced differently in different environments, 205 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: and it can be louder depending on where it's being heard. 206 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: On a subway station can be echoing I do. That's 207 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: probably what you heard part of that on the speaker. 208 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: And it can sound louder because the sound keeps bouncing 209 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: off the walls repeatedly. And then she goes into the 210 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: decibel levels. It clocks into an average of eighty three 211 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: decibels on a handheld decibel meter. She went down there 212 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: with the meter. Ruh, this is what this is what 213 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: she does. This is what This is the biggest problem 214 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, not that two thousand people die every 215 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: year in the streets, but that they're being chased out 216 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: of the metro system, which they have urinated and defecated 217 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: on and and and they inject drugs and they vomit 218 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: and they pass out, and they harass and stab the 219 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: normal people. Well, Jessica out, the real problem is you 220 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: know those rich white people, and they're cheese shops and 221 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: they're just awful, dreadful classical music. Well, here's the key part. 222 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: She kind of tripped over it here. She says that 223 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: sometimes string flourishes. The deciple level peaks at ninety depending 224 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: on where in the station standing. Now. The Centers for 225 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Disease Control and Prevention website says deciple levels between eighty 226 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: and eighty five are on par with gas powered lawnmowers 227 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: and leaflowers. Damage to hearing is possible after two hours 228 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: of exposure. So who might be in there for two 229 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: hours listening today? Ah, the on house. That's right, some 230 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: drug addicted mental patients. Not people just trying to get 231 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: from one destination to another who step off the train 232 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: and go up the escalator and leave. Yes, everyone, everyone 233 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: normal spends five minutes going through a train station. That's 234 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: the homeless or face down for two hours, and we're 235 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: worried that their hearing is going to be damaged. Let 236 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: me tell you, they are damaging a lot more than 237 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: their hearing. We already have lawyers who are gonna go 238 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: down there and try to recruit homeless people that have 239 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: hearing damage to sue Metro. That's what this is. This 240 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: is like a blueprint for all the legal issues that 241 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: some ACLU attorney is going to raise. I laughed when 242 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: I saw that. I said, even a small solution, and 243 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: they find the way. They also good times to attack it. 244 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: It's too loud and it's gonna hurt people. It's not fair. 245 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: It's torture. It's cruel and punishment. And what what what 246 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: what she buries in the story, and I mean buries 247 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: it to almost the end is that Metro says that 248 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: there has been a seventy five percent reduction in calls 249 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: for emergency services, fifty percent reduction in vandalism and graffiti, 250 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: and twenty percent drop in crime since they started up 251 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: the classical music. So it works. Ah, you see, it 252 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: makes the vagrance crazy, so they leave, They don't hang 253 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: around because they can't take it anymore. Okay, now it 254 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: might be tough after seven to ten hours lying in there. 255 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but this is a non lethal method, right, 256 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: there's no guns involved, there's no weapons, there's not even 257 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: bean bags. Oh but you could damage someone's hearing. And 258 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: it's torture. I it torture. When I saw the word torture, 259 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: I almost flipped. It's torture. Now, well, a matter of fact, 260 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: this woman Hurst comes back again. The current alternative of 261 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: elevated volume coupled with repetition is a way that music 262 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: has been used as torture throughout history. It's they can 263 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: disrupt sleeping thought. So get this. This is This is 264 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: the message from the Wokeheads and Jessica Gelt at the 265 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: Times that playing Beethoven at loud levels is torture. Did 266 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: you see the way she finished the story though the 267 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: last paragraph isis so too? Her name is isis? An 268 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: unhoused woman sitting at the station said she didn't mind 269 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: the loud orchestras and strings. Why I enjoy classical music? 270 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: It wouldn't keep me out, It'll help keep me down 271 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: here longer. All right, Well, failure probably the exception, right, 272 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: because if the numbers are true, and the vandalism's down, 273 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: the graffiti's down, the crime's down, it's keeping somebody. Why 274 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: don't you check it up? Another twenty deaths? We got 275 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: more comed up John and Ken kf I AM sixty. 276 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 277 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I AM sixty. All right, we'll be talking to the 278 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Mayor of Huntington Beach and the city attorney Michael Gates 279 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: after the News at two o'clock as they continue to 280 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: fight dippity due in the California State legislature over being 281 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: told what to build in their town and what to 282 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: build is low income, affordable high rise housing is what 283 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: they're being told to do, and people in their community 284 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: don't want that. They were elected by people in their community, 285 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: so stick it. So that is the message to new 286 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: some ghosts deck is stack it. You can see this 287 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: is going to result in long time legislative rather Campbell battle. 288 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: It's campaigning in the South this week. Yeah, he's in Florida. 289 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: He's in Florida and he's going to Alabama too. I 290 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: know we're gonna talk about that next hour. It really 291 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: makes no sense. Again, he's trying to he's running for 292 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: him president, That's what he's doing. He's trying to roll 293 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: out a more broader repeal outside of California. I wonder 294 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: if he's got inside word that Biden's not running and 295 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: they just wished whispered him a fight. Think yes, I 296 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: think it's also a justin case or this is practice 297 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty eight, don't I don't know. Yeah, all right, 298 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: it could be any of those things because it'll be 299 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: wide open and twenty eight at Biden that happens to 300 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: win reelection and survives. We're not going to talk a 301 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: lot about the Trump indictment today, good lord. The world 302 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: has exhausted itself on that subject, and I'm exhausted talking 303 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: about Trump too. But one thing I enjoyed, which I 304 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: thought we would play for you, is the dope media. 305 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: And of course they showed up en mass yesterday outside 306 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: the court room. The coverage was intense all day long, 307 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of reporters covering this dopey story about 308 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: the indictment of Trump by the Manhattan da Alvin Bragg, 309 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: involving the hush money payment made to adult film actress 310 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels and this playboy woman. Anyway, you had to 311 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: imagine the New York Times, and they have still well 312 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: they're dying, but they still have a lot of reporters. 313 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: One of them is Michael Sheer, and his job, I 314 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: guess yesterday was to go to the White House Press briefing, 315 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: which is of course run by the White House Press 316 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: Secretary Karine Jean Pierre, and to get the answer to 317 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: this question. We want Biden to comment on the Trump indictment. 318 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: Just anything we want and it's important that So this 319 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: was kind of his assignment, get something out of the 320 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: Biden White House to comment on Trump being indicted. Our 321 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: readers will love that, right, We're all piling on. Let's 322 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: see what Biden, the man who defeated them in twenty twenty, 323 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: has to say about the indictment. Well, we have about 324 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: two and a half minutes of what happened. It's pretty amusing. 325 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: Here we go. When it comes to these types of cases, 326 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: these criminal specific cases, we're just not going to comment. 327 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: I know there's a I get you. I know there's 328 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: a broader question of what this means a precedent and 329 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: uh and what the president is going to decide or 330 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: make good decisions that he might make like hypothetical questions. 331 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to comment from here on that again. 332 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: And I was asking why you yeah, anyway to comment 333 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that I laid that out for you. 334 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: And I've just laid out why we commented on January six, 335 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: And we're just going to be very mindful. These are 336 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: ongoing cases, cases involving Americans who whose freedom was I hear, 337 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: I hear you but this is something that all of 338 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: Americans watch in real time, in real time, and people 339 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: people died, people died, people die in fact. But you're 340 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: lecturing me. But you're lecturing me. I'm asking questions. And 341 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, there are millions of people out 342 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: there watching today. You called January sixth historic. It was 343 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: absolutely historic, and none of us had ever seen that before. 344 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: Nobody's seen this before either. There are millions and millions 345 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: of Americans watching the first time in two hundred and 346 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: fifty years a former president be hauled into court and 347 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: and process for a rest. That means something that has 348 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: some effect potentially. I suspect on American democracy and the 349 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: rest of the world that the president has talked a 350 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: lot to express the world sees because she's a United 351 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: totally valid Why isn't that Why isn't there a similar 352 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: kind of assessment about January sixtent good or bad. I'm 353 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: not making adictment. We took away. I'm just saying, and 354 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: I hear your question. January sixth is just was a 355 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: different moment. It just was it was something that she's 356 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: got to think of what the votably devastating people died 357 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: on that day and we're harmed, and it was just 358 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: it was just something that we saw visually that we 359 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: reactually we saw visual and many people were scared in 360 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: that moment. And as the president was taking office as 361 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: the next president of the United States, a president that 362 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: ran on bringing the country together, on protecting our democracy, 363 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: it was something that it was important to speak to 364 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: at that at that moment. And also, you know, we 365 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: know that Americans still very much care about this when 366 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: it comes to a criminal is diarrhea, isn't she that 367 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: is ongoing. We are just not going to comment. We're 368 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: not going to interfere. We're not going to politically interfere 369 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: here in the end. And we've been care We've been 370 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: very consistent. I know you're this guy's a sign to 371 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: just get it out. Quote. You can turn it off, 372 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: turn it off, turn it off. You got to get 373 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: a quote from the Biden White House about it, even 374 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: if it's just yay, get something, and he couldn't. So 375 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: he got so frustrated. He's acting like a little baby. 376 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Come on, it's just as important as January sixth. This 377 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: never happened in the history of the country. Get me something, 378 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: anything you think, just to shut him up. She would 379 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: have said, all right, well, you know we'd beat Trump 380 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and he's a crook. I don't know 381 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: any thing. Right there, They're not gonna talk because Biden's next. 382 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: When the Republicans take over, Biden is gonna get charged 383 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: with something. And his son and his brother, that whole 384 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: family is president. Oh yes he is. He and his 385 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: brother and his son are so freaking corrupt that some 386 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: district attorney somewhere is gonna concoct a BS case or 387 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: maybe a real case. But you know, Trump's case is 388 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: largely nonsense. Now now the doors open. In fact, now 389 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: they're doing this to the Clinton's that you understand all 390 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: of them. Well, now you're making me realize this could 391 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: go on for decades because they're not stand with Trump. 392 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: That you're right, some day Biden won't be president and 393 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: there's stuff there they can go after. There'll be some 394 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: DA who says, all right, all right, you went after 395 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: Trump as a as a state DA. Some Republican red 396 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: state DA is going to say, all right, let me 397 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: dig into the hunter Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and 398 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: all their business dealings with China, and that the stupid 399 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: brother of Joe's. The three of them that are getting 400 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: rich off of all of Biden's connections. If Trum up 401 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: as guilty of stuff, I guarantee you the Bidens, all 402 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: three of them are guilty of stuff. They absolutely are. 403 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: So you want to play this game. It's like when 404 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: they when the Republicans and peach Clinton, right, well, yeah, 405 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: and so then Democrats waited a while, but they peached 406 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Trump twice, and that that's gonna go on forever two right, right, 407 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: And I heard people back when Clinton got impeached they 408 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: thought the whole obviously, the Democrats side thought the whole 409 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: thing was nonsense and it was just some sex thing, 410 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: and why are they bothering? Well, we're kind of in 411 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: the same place now, except reversed. Trump's hush Muddy was 412 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 1: all about a sex thing, but they're all worked up 413 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: over it. Well, yeah, and now it's about it's different, 414 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: right because Clint, because the guy Clinton's client crime was 415 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: about perjury. Yeah, but the spin was, oh, it's a 416 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: sex crime. Now it was perjury. Same thing. I mean, 417 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: the Trump people are gonna say, oh, this is just 418 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, a private payoff for a parae. No, actually, 419 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: it's got a bad because you covered it up. You know, 420 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: it's a minor crime. That's the thing. If he got 421 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: convicted of that, fine, but it's a minor crime, turning 422 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: it into a felony with prison time, that's the BS part. 423 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: Trump also went to town, and so did his sons 424 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: on the judge in the case in New York, as 425 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: his New York judge one merchant and pointing out that 426 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: the daughter apparently is connected to the Democrats and allegations 427 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: she worked on the Biden Harris campaign. They're out to 428 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: get me, folks. And of course the judge had admonished 429 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: Trump not to work people up to the point of 430 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: near violence or I don't know what he'll do, but 431 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything he can do. But one 432 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: thing is that Trump does have a First Amendment right 433 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: to speak out, especially as a presidential candidate. And if 434 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: the judge says you cannot talk about a case where 435 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: Trump feels persecuted by the political opposition while he's running 436 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: for president, I don't know how that flies, you know, 437 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: as a First Amendment case before the Supreme Court. Yep. 438 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: And he's going to testing at all, isn't he? Well, yeah, 439 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: he ain't going to shut up. He's gonna act. I 440 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: saw some of his speech last night and all the 441 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: stupid commentators. I was watching CNN and they said, well 442 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: what he should have said, Well what he should have said, 443 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: Well what he should have Well, he's not gonna do 444 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: what you want him to say. He's never, ever, ever 445 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: going to change. He is not. Remember back in twenty sixteen, 446 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: they said, well, maybe this is just the Trump running 447 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: for presidents. Maybe he won't be like this as president. 448 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: He was to know and he's like twenty Maybe he's 449 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: learned his lesson and it'll tone it. No, he's not 450 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: toning it down. No, just gets who he is. I 451 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: heard one guy say this morning what we've said many times. 452 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: Trump loves the chaos. He loves to rile people up. 453 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: This is particularly two of East Coasters in New York 454 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: people they do like the tangle. It's just sort of 455 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: a play. It's a hobby. Yeah, everything's everything's theatrical. All right, 456 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: we got more coming up. John and Ken camp I 457 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio APPU. 458 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf 459 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: I AM six after two o'clock we'll have both the 460 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: mayor of Huntington Beach and the city attorney. Tony Strickland's 461 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: the mayor Michael Gates, as a city attorney who's been 462 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: on our show a number of times. They voted last 463 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: night in Huntington Beach four to three. They shot down 464 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: another effort to adopt a plan to build a whole 465 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: bunch of homes. Thirteen thousand, three hundred and sixty eight 466 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: is what has been mandated by the Communists and Sacramento, 467 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: the state's mandated housing goal by the end of the decade. Well, 468 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: we're already in twenty twenty three. Huntington Beach has about 469 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand people, So you multiply that by the 470 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: number of people in the average household, that's a significant 471 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: increase in population. And the community doesn't want it, and 472 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: the city council knows this. Although it was a close vote. 473 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: We'll talk about what's next and all that's behind this 474 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: coming up with the two of them after the news 475 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: at two o'clock. Well, as we were just talking about 476 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: Trump and the dope indictment, we were also talking it 477 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: came up during our conversation about the dreaded Bill Clinton 478 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, the former president, And of course we only 479 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: talked about him because of Monica Lewinsky and what was 480 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: her name, Paula Jones, the whole impeachment thing. But he's 481 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: in the news for another reason. He went on an 482 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Irish broadcast station called RTE to admit he says Russia 483 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: would never have invaded Ukraine if I hadn't convinced Ukraine 484 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: to give up its nukes. Well, thanks for that. That 485 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: is true. And wasn't he the one that missed a 486 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: chance to kill bin Laden too? Yeah, that's also true. 487 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: He was terrible and a lot of things, but because 488 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: he was so charming, he was never really His whole 489 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: administration has never been fully analyzed beyond you know, Monica Lewinsky. Yeah, 490 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: he was a policy wank who liked to talk and 491 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: talk and talk, but doing and doing well was it 492 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: really something? Because what was his experience? His experience was 493 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: being a Yahoo in Arkansas. He was the governor of 494 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: Arkansas right a long time. Yeah, and he's a rural 495 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: Yahoo bubba and he probably a big, big beard drinking McDonald's, 496 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: eating blubber head. Oh, he's another Rhodes scholar. Wasn't he 497 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: to go to Rhodes or Oxford or somewhere eric our setting. 498 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: But I don't get this Rhodes scholar thing. So here 499 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: is nineteen ninety four, and Ukraine had a stockpile of 500 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: nukes after the Soviet Union collapsed. That's how they came 501 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: upon them. So he persuaded them to give up the 502 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons, and of course in return, they got guarantees 503 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: that the Russians wouldn't try to take over, and if 504 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: they did, the Allies, including the United States, would protect Ukraine. 505 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: Now the thinking is Ukraine they didn't really have definitive 506 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: control over the Soviet nuclear weapons. And of course there's 507 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: a contention too that this many years later, what condition 508 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: would they be, and since it was still a struggling 509 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: country after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Yeah, well, 510 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: whether or not they would have paid attention to it, 511 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: I think they would have, because I think a lot 512 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: of people were especially since they took Crimea like ten 513 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: years ago. I think they would have done more to 514 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: upgrade there whatever they had left over from the Soviet 515 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: It's a risk you don't want to take. You can 516 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: dismiss it and say, wow, those nukes are old. It's like, yeah, 517 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: you want to you want to take it. You want 518 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: to take a risk, a chance on that. Oh, I wright, 519 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: maybe they work, maybe they don't. What if they do? Yeah, 520 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian one Ukrainian minister by the name of Leski 521 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: gon Sharenko said, Ukraine is the only nation in human 522 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: history which gave up its nuclear arsenal. And it was 523 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: the third biggest in the world in nineteen ninety four. Right, wow, 524 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: I guess behind the US, and because that's where the 525 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: Russians put a huge stockpile. And then Ukraine separated from 526 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:06,239 Speaker 1: Russia as the whole communist regime was falling apart, and 527 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: it was an inheritance there were there were the richest 528 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 1: inheritance in the history of the world. They got nineteen 529 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: hundred nuclear warheads and they gave them away. What because 530 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton said, so what the hell would Bill Clinton? No, 531 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton doesn't live there. If Bill Clinton lived there, 532 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: would like if Arkansas had nineteen hundred nuclear weapons, do 533 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: you think what it was, governor, he would have given 534 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: those up? No. Well, this was hailed at the time 535 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: because everyone was worried about the world building up nukes 536 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: and we're headed for a catastrophe of more countries have nukes, 537 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna eventually use them. So it's like, oh, we 538 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: got one country to disarm. Well, that's really good for 539 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: future peace. Didn't work out that way, did it? And 540 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: many people have died in this war. You can never 541 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: you can never get caught up in that stuff. Everybody 542 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: has to surrender all their nuclear weapons and then they 543 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: have to kill all the nuclear scientists who do the 544 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: research on new ones. But you know, the minister said 545 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: that with the guarantees of the US, the United Kingdom 546 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: and the Russian Federation Ukraine gave up its nuclear arms. 547 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: Where are those guarantees? Now? We're bombed and were killed. 548 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: And the Russian Federation at the time was led by 549 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: another man that liked to drink, Boris Yeltson. So this 550 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: is before Putin and Putin though a pined at the time, 551 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: he didn't like this right, so everyone thought, well, yeah, 552 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: what's going Well a few years later he took over 553 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: in president. One day, Yeltsin is going to have one 554 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: too many vodkas and dropped dead, and then Putin's gonna 555 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: take over and you're gonna wish you had the nukes. 556 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: Will you talk about short sighted? I think I think 557 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: Putin took over around the year two thousand or so, 558 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: so their little window of peace was six years, you 559 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: give up nineteen hundred nukes just to have Bill Clinton 560 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: pat you on the head and say thank you for 561 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: doing your part for world peace. And then six years 562 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: finowing year they signed a memorandum called the Budapest Memorandum 563 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: that gave Ukraine security assurances that Russia, the US and 564 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: the UK would be there if they got invaded and 565 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: they didn't have their nukes. Yeah. Well, and then so 566 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: Russia violated it in the US and Great Britain goes, oh, well, yeah, 567 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: Putin has nukes, good luck. Yeah. Yeah, because it wasn't 568 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: until now that we fought back. We let Obama let 569 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Russia take Crimea nine years ago when Putin grabbed that 570 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: section of Ukraine, Obama didn't do anything about it. So 571 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: of course they were going to come back the next 572 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: time there was a weak president. Yeah, and of course 573 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: Yeltsin agreed that Russia would never threaten Ukraine's borders. But 574 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: of course Putin took over and they invaded. They grabbed 575 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: Crimea in twenty fourteen. Yeah, which, by the way, that 576 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Ukrainians think they can get back. Now they're getting more confident. 577 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: Hard to really tell what's going on, except we're all 578 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: pretty sure a lot of Russian soldiers have died in 579 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: this war, and territories one then given back again, and 580 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: then things go quiet for weeks. But I saw a 581 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 1: story the other day that Ukraine is confident they can 582 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: get Crimea back as long as they keep getting weapons 583 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: in the US and as long as Putin doesn't resort 584 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: to anything nuclear. Right, all right, when we come back, 585 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: we'll be talking to both the mayor and the city 586 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: attorney for Huntington Beach in this ongoing battle to challenge 587 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: Sacramento's mandated housing goals that require Huntington Beach to zone 588 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: for thirteen thousand, three hundred and sixty eight homes by 589 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: the end of the decades, a precise number thirteen three 590 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight by the end of the decade. 591 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: They believe that will change the way Huntington Beach is 592 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: for people who live there. 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